Teen reduced to tears by prison sentence for stabbing

Daily Echo: Ashley Butt Ashley Butt

HE was branded calculating and manipulative after a vicious stabbing in a car park.

But when the extent of his criminal past eventually caught up with Ashley Butt, the teenager was reduced to tears.

At the age of just 17 he was handed an eight year prison term with an additional four years on licence after he was deemed to be a danger to the public.

Already convicted for a series of violent crimes Butt appeared at Southampton Crown Court to receive his sentence after he was found guilty of stabbing another youth in the chest with a pair of scissors.

The court heard how Butt and an unknown accomplice had initially been chatting to two other youths before his mood abruptly changed and he began demanding money.

After beating one of the boys to the ground when he refused to hand over money he then ran at him with a pair of scissors handed to him by his friend and stabbed him in the chest.

The victim then ran off and the second youth, frightened at what he had witnessed, gave Butt £10 before fleeing. The pair then went to a friend's house nearby and called the police.

Butt, 17, of Neva Road, Midanbury,Southampton, was convicted of wounding with intent, robbery, attempted robbery and possession of a bladed article.

The court heard that among his previous 26 convictions were attacks on his mother, an assault on a police officer and a knife point robbery of a pizza delivery driver.

Prosecutor Gavin Sumpter read out an extract from the wounded teenager's impact statement to the police.

In it, he explained how he had been forced to stop playing football for a local side, given up a labouring job and had lost confidence.

Passing sentence, the judge accepted Butt - who was crying in the dock - had not enjoyed an easy life with no parental control.

“I observed you during the course of the trial and I have no doubt you pose a significant risk of causing serious harm to the public. You are a calculating and manipulative young man.”

Charles Cochand, defending, spoke of Butt's chaotic childhood but while on remand, he had been working well and for the time he had shown motivation, achieving the equivalent of an adult apprenticeship on a bricklaying course.

After the hearing, Dc Ricky Dhanda said: “This was a shocking incident. Ashley Butt is a dangerous young man who has been taken off the streets of Southampton. I am pleased with the sentence.”

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7:42am Fri 21 Feb 14

bigfella777 says...

I should think the victim has shed a few tears as well
I should think the victim has shed a few tears as well bigfella777

8:36am Fri 21 Feb 14

Brite Spark says...

Crocodile Tears;-
He should have been sent to prison before he stabbed someone, the warning signs were there many times. Of course, the law is too soft, next we shall be hearing of his successful appeal against 'too long a sentence'.
Crocodile Tears;- He should have been sent to prison before he stabbed someone, the warning signs were there many times. Of course, the law is too soft, next we shall be hearing of his successful appeal against 'too long a sentence'. Brite Spark

9:29am Fri 21 Feb 14

THEKILLER says...

The harder they act the weaker they are
The harder they act the weaker they are THEKILLER

9:56am Fri 21 Feb 14

Taskforce 141 says...

Stabbed someone in the chest... is that not attempted murder? surely a harsher sentence should be warranted, not that the flimsy British justice system would ever be so stringent!
Stabbed someone in the chest... is that not attempted murder? surely a harsher sentence should be warranted, not that the flimsy British justice system would ever be so stringent! Taskforce 141

10:37am Fri 21 Feb 14

WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER. says...

hope they provide the big hard man with a andy pandy rompersuit ,cot and rattle.
hope they provide the big hard man with a andy pandy rompersuit ,cot and rattle. WILLIAM HAGUES TWIN BROTHER.

10:41am Fri 21 Feb 14

wendgray says...

Ashley butt was not at all sorry after the two times he broke into my flat and caused me nightmares my daughter was only two years old and had to witness her mother in tears most of the time and the poor in the flat that lived under me was brokeninto serval times by him caused her so much upset she no longer wanted to live in her flat anymore so i am very thankful he can not cause anymore harm lepards can not change there spots and do believe he will ever change
Ashley butt was not at all sorry after the two times he broke into my flat and caused me nightmares my daughter was only two years old and had to witness her mother in tears most of the time and the poor in the flat that lived under me was brokeninto serval times by him caused her so much upset she no longer wanted to live in her flat anymore so i am very thankful he can not cause anymore harm lepards can not change there spots and do believe he will ever change wendgray

11:42am Fri 21 Feb 14

From the sidelines says...

wendgray wrote:
Ashley butt was not at all sorry after the two times he broke into my flat and caused me nightmares my daughter was only two years old and had to witness her mother in tears most of the time and the poor in the flat that lived under me was brokeninto serval times by him caused her so much upset she no longer wanted to live in her flat anymore so i am very thankful he can not cause anymore harm lepards can not change there spots and do believe he will ever change
Educated under Labour?
[quote][p][bold]wendgray[/bold] wrote: Ashley butt was not at all sorry after the two times he broke into my flat and caused me nightmares my daughter was only two years old and had to witness her mother in tears most of the time and the poor in the flat that lived under me was brokeninto serval times by him caused her so much upset she no longer wanted to live in her flat anymore so i am very thankful he can not cause anymore harm lepards can not change there spots and do believe he will ever change[/p][/quote]Educated under Labour? From the sidelines

11:57am Fri 21 Feb 14

Huey says...

Ahahahaha what a cry baby. Let's see how tough he is in prison. Butt? what an apt name. What a asad jerk. I hope he gets attacked himself and learns some empathy
Ahahahaha what a cry baby. Let's see how tough he is in prison. Butt? what an apt name. What a asad jerk. I hope he gets attacked himself and learns some empathy Huey

12:07pm Fri 21 Feb 14

roofspace says...

From the sidelines wrote:
wendgray wrote:
Ashley butt was not at all sorry after the two times he broke into my flat and caused me nightmares my daughter was only two years old and had to witness her mother in tears most of the time and the poor in the flat that lived under me was brokeninto serval times by him caused her so much upset she no longer wanted to live in her flat anymore so i am very thankful he can not cause anymore harm lepards can not change there spots and do believe he will ever change
Educated under Labour?
From your snide remark you were obviously a product of compassionate caring Thatcherism.
[quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wendgray[/bold] wrote: Ashley butt was not at all sorry after the two times he broke into my flat and caused me nightmares my daughter was only two years old and had to witness her mother in tears most of the time and the poor in the flat that lived under me was brokeninto serval times by him caused her so much upset she no longer wanted to live in her flat anymore so i am very thankful he can not cause anymore harm lepards can not change there spots and do believe he will ever change[/p][/quote]Educated under Labour?[/p][/quote]From your snide remark you were obviously a product of compassionate caring Thatcherism. roofspace

12:12pm Fri 21 Feb 14

RED & WHITE..RED & WHITE says...

HA HA HA HA HA HA what a muppett he's probably crying because he's getting a hard time inside, lads that are doing to him what he did on the out !!!

Enjoy it every year of it you sad little idiot....ROT
wonder how his victims feel being stabbed ?

Well done Judge should of gave him life
HA HA HA HA HA HA what a muppett he's probably crying because he's getting a hard time inside, lads that are doing to him what he did on the out !!! Enjoy it every year of it you sad little idiot....ROT wonder how his victims feel being stabbed ? Well done Judge should of gave him life RED & WHITE..RED & WHITE

12:14pm Fri 21 Feb 14

hedge end bob says...

From the sidelines wrote:
wendgray wrote:
Ashley butt was not at all sorry after the two times he broke into my flat and caused me nightmares my daughter was only two years old and had to witness her mother in tears most of the time and the poor in the flat that lived under me was brokeninto serval times by him caused her so much upset she no longer wanted to live in her flat anymore so i am very thankful he can not cause anymore harm lepards can not change there spots and do believe he will ever change
Educated under Labour?
So was I sunshine, not all as lucky as you!!!
This young man should be behind bars for a lot longer than sentenced. He has already attack his own mother and by the report is truly a danger on the streets. How far must our justice system be stretched before the death sentence is restored??. No one is safe while people like this draws breath , severe I know but true.
[quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wendgray[/bold] wrote: Ashley butt was not at all sorry after the two times he broke into my flat and caused me nightmares my daughter was only two years old and had to witness her mother in tears most of the time and the poor in the flat that lived under me was brokeninto serval times by him caused her so much upset she no longer wanted to live in her flat anymore so i am very thankful he can not cause anymore harm lepards can not change there spots and do believe he will ever change[/p][/quote]Educated under Labour?[/p][/quote]So was I sunshine, not all as lucky as you!!! This young man should be behind bars for a lot longer than sentenced. He has already attack his own mother and by the report is truly a danger on the streets. How far must our justice system be stretched before the death sentence is restored??. No one is safe while people like this draws breath , severe I know but true. hedge end bob

12:19pm Fri 21 Feb 14

WinchesterResient1991 says...

this boy causes nothing but trouble, several times i have had problems with him.! at least now he wont be out for a while!!!!
this boy causes nothing but trouble, several times i have had problems with him.! at least now he wont be out for a while!!!! WinchesterResient1991

12:28pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Inform Al says...

Whilst I am usually on the 'hang them all' brigade, there are times when I have some doubts. In this case I am a bit suspicious of the lack of mental health facilities available to youngsters not just in Hampshire, but nationwide. Much as he may present as a total sh1t, there is a possibility that he himself has been let down.
Whilst I am usually on the 'hang them all' brigade, there are times when I have some doubts. In this case I am a bit suspicious of the lack of mental health facilities available to youngsters not just in Hampshire, but nationwide. Much as he may present as a total sh1t, there is a possibility that he himself has been let down. Inform Al

12:52pm Fri 21 Feb 14

gilbertratchet says...

THEKILLER wrote:
The harder they act the weaker they are
If only that was true. In reality, it isn't.
[quote][p][bold]THEKILLER[/bold] wrote: The harder they act the weaker they are[/p][/quote]If only that was true. In reality, it isn't. gilbertratchet

12:52pm Fri 21 Feb 14

gilbertratchet says...

Taskforce 141 wrote:
Stabbed someone in the chest... is that not attempted murder? surely a harsher sentence should be warranted, not that the flimsy British justice system would ever be so stringent!
It's attempted murder if they attempted to murder someone. You have to prove their intent.
[quote][p][bold]Taskforce 141[/bold] wrote: Stabbed someone in the chest... is that not attempted murder? surely a harsher sentence should be warranted, not that the flimsy British justice system would ever be so stringent![/p][/quote]It's attempted murder if they attempted to murder someone. You have to prove their intent. gilbertratchet

1:00pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Dai Rear says...

"From your snide remark you were obviously a product of compassionate caring Thatcherism"
Can we lay this canard to rest? Political parties of any sort can be neither compassionate nor caring. These are individual human characteristics. What you mean, I think, is "spending a lot of other people's money on other people (frequently to no good effect)"
By this criterion the governments in the 1st and 2nd World Wars would have been the most "compassionate and caring" Think about it.
"From your snide remark you were obviously a product of compassionate caring Thatcherism" Can we lay this canard to rest? Political parties of any sort can be neither compassionate nor caring. These are individual human characteristics. What you mean, I think, is "spending a lot of other people's money on other people (frequently to no good effect)" By this criterion the governments in the 1st and 2nd World Wars would have been the most "compassionate and caring" Think about it. Dai Rear

1:03pm Fri 21 Feb 14

camerajuan says...

gilbertratchet wrote:
Taskforce 141 wrote:
Stabbed someone in the chest... is that not attempted murder? surely a harsher sentence should be warranted, not that the flimsy British justice system would ever be so stringent!
It's attempted murder if they attempted to murder someone. You have to prove their intent.
Whilst I fully agree with that, surely stabbing in the chest doesn't gleam "trying to scare someone without causing too much harm" does it?

A stab to the chest should be considered attempted murder, no matter what the "defendant" claims. He seems like a demonic infant who has hard man syndrome and I hope he gets decimated in prison amongst actual criminals like he deserves. I don't buy into his troubled upbringing, everyone chooses their own paths.
[quote][p][bold]gilbertratchet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Taskforce 141[/bold] wrote: Stabbed someone in the chest... is that not attempted murder? surely a harsher sentence should be warranted, not that the flimsy British justice system would ever be so stringent![/p][/quote]It's attempted murder if they attempted to murder someone. You have to prove their intent.[/p][/quote]Whilst I fully agree with that, surely stabbing in the chest doesn't gleam "trying to scare someone without causing too much harm" does it? A stab to the chest should be considered attempted murder, no matter what the "defendant" claims. He seems like a demonic infant who has hard man syndrome and I hope he gets decimated in prison amongst actual criminals like he deserves. I don't buy into his troubled upbringing, everyone chooses their own paths. camerajuan

1:06pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Dai Rear says...

Huey wrote:
Ahahahaha what a cry baby. Let's see how tough he is in prison. Butt? what an apt name. What a asad jerk. I hope he gets attacked himself and learns some empathy
The use of surname Butt in pakistani punjab actually is quite complex and is beyond the understanding of indians. The Butt is not seen just as surname in pakistan punjab, but it has become a collective self-identification of kashmiri muslim immigrants to pakistani punjab somewhere in the 19th century
[quote][p][bold]Huey[/bold] wrote: Ahahahaha what a cry baby. Let's see how tough he is in prison. Butt? what an apt name. What a asad jerk. I hope he gets attacked himself and learns some empathy[/p][/quote]The use of surname Butt in pakistani punjab actually is quite complex and is beyond the understanding of indians. The Butt is not seen just as surname in pakistan punjab, but it has become a collective self-identification of kashmiri muslim immigrants to pakistani punjab somewhere in the 19th century Dai Rear

1:06pm Fri 21 Feb 14

kiddynamite says...

Im sure they will love this salads butt in jail. Stop making excuses for scum.
Im sure they will love this salads butt in jail. Stop making excuses for scum. kiddynamite

1:58pm Fri 21 Feb 14

derek james says...

next time you hear about him will be for murder
next time you hear about him will be for murder derek james

2:06pm Fri 21 Feb 14

wendgray says...

roofspace wrote:
From the sidelines wrote:
wendgray wrote:
Ashley butt was not at all sorry after the two times he broke into my flat and caused me nightmares my daughter was only two years old and had to witness her mother in tears most of the time and the poor in the flat that lived under me was brokeninto serval times by him caused her so much upset she no longer wanted to live in her flat anymore so i am very thankful he can not cause anymore harm lepards can not change there spots and do believe he will ever change
Educated under Labour?
From your snide remark you were obviously a product of compassionate caring Thatcherism.
I am a very caring person but this lad broke into my flat twice and caused a lot of Damage how do you ever forgive for that
[quote][p][bold]roofspace[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]From the sidelines[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]wendgray[/bold] wrote: Ashley butt was not at all sorry after the two times he broke into my flat and caused me nightmares my daughter was only two years old and had to witness her mother in tears most of the time and the poor in the flat that lived under me was brokeninto serval times by him caused her so much upset she no longer wanted to live in her flat anymore so i am very thankful he can not cause anymore harm lepards can not change there spots and do believe he will ever change[/p][/quote]Educated under Labour?[/p][/quote]From your snide remark you were obviously a product of compassionate caring Thatcherism.[/p][/quote]I am a very caring person but this lad broke into my flat twice and caused a lot of Damage how do you ever forgive for that wendgray

2:23pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Mary80 says...

Well maybe he shouldnt STAB PEOPLE IN THE CHEST then. Zero sympathy for a scumbag thug who is now going to jail for 8 years.
Well maybe he shouldnt STAB PEOPLE IN THE CHEST then. Zero sympathy for a scumbag thug who is now going to jail for 8 years. Mary80

3:04pm Fri 21 Feb 14

LadySam says...

What a big girl. Big and tough with a weapon in his hand but when he has to face the consequences he blubs like a baby. Zero sympathy.
What a big girl. Big and tough with a weapon in his hand but when he has to face the consequences he blubs like a baby. Zero sympathy. LadySam

3:07pm Fri 21 Feb 14

whufan says...

Hopefully the follow up headline will be "Stabber Butt is Butt-stabbed, in prison"
Hopefully the follow up headline will be "Stabber Butt is Butt-stabbed, in prison" whufan

3:29pm Fri 21 Feb 14

RED & WHITE..RED & WHITE says...

wendgray wrote:
Ashley butt was not at all sorry after the two times he broke into my flat and caused me nightmares my daughter was only two years old and had to witness her mother in tears most of the time and the poor in the flat that lived under me was brokeninto serval times by him caused her so much upset she no longer wanted to live in her flat anymore so i am very thankful he can not cause anymore harm lepards can not change there spots and do believe he will ever change
I feel for you I really do, hope you all sleep well tonight
[quote][p][bold]wendgray[/bold] wrote: Ashley butt was not at all sorry after the two times he broke into my flat and caused me nightmares my daughter was only two years old and had to witness her mother in tears most of the time and the poor in the flat that lived under me was brokeninto serval times by him caused her so much upset she no longer wanted to live in her flat anymore so i am very thankful he can not cause anymore harm lepards can not change there spots and do believe he will ever change[/p][/quote]I feel for you I really do, hope you all sleep well tonight RED & WHITE..RED & WHITE

3:31pm Fri 21 Feb 14

SotonGreen says...

Sentenced to 8 years, out in 4 lets hope he gets some anger management assistance in jail and comes out a better person.
Sentenced to 8 years, out in 4 lets hope he gets some anger management assistance in jail and comes out a better person. SotonGreen

3:32pm Fri 21 Feb 14

ydkjs2 says...

Pathetic. Crying only for himself. Stupid big baby. There are MANY people who had a horrific childhood but they don't turn to a criminal lifestyle and attempted murder. I get tired of hearing 'oh he/she had an awful childhood'. That is no excuse. From some of the postings on here he obviously hurt a lot of people. Time to 'pay the piper' you little punk.
Pathetic. Crying only for himself. Stupid big baby. There are MANY people who had a horrific childhood but they don't turn to a criminal lifestyle and attempted murder. I get tired of hearing 'oh he/she had an awful childhood'. That is no excuse. From some of the postings on here he obviously hurt a lot of people. Time to 'pay the piper' you little punk. ydkjs2

4:31pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Mary80 says...

Having a bad childhood/having a terrible upbringing/living in a bad area are NOT EXCUSES FOR VILE BEHAVIOUR. The sooner we as a society drop this BS of "aw poor diddums had a bad childhood its why they act like that".

NO

It is about bloody time the criminals started taking responsibility for their actions nobody forced this thug to grab a knife nobody forced him to stab someone. It was all HIM and nothing else. I am sick and tired of the people saying we should go easy because he had a hard life so **** what? Millions of people have had pretty terrible lives guess what? They don't stab people.

The victims are the ones we should be giving sympathy for not a thug
Having a bad childhood/having a terrible upbringing/living in a bad area are NOT EXCUSES FOR VILE BEHAVIOUR. The sooner we as a society drop this BS of "aw poor diddums had a bad childhood its why they act like that". NO It is about bloody time the criminals started taking responsibility for their actions nobody forced this thug to grab a knife nobody forced him to stab someone. It was all HIM and nothing else. I am sick and tired of the people saying we should go easy because he had a hard life so **** what? Millions of people have had pretty terrible lives guess what? They don't stab people. The victims are the ones we should be giving sympathy for not a thug Mary80

4:36pm Fri 21 Feb 14

SotonGreen says...

I feel sorry for you Mary80. So much anger, so much hate it must be tearing your soul apart.
I feel sorry for you Mary80. So much anger, so much hate it must be tearing your soul apart. SotonGreen

5:42pm Fri 21 Feb 14

hmw says...

whufan wrote:
Hopefully the follow up headline will be "Stabber Butt is Butt-stabbed, in prison"
Indeed. He'll soon be wearing a very different kind of pearl necklace
[quote][p][bold]whufan[/bold] wrote: Hopefully the follow up headline will be "Stabber Butt is Butt-stabbed, in prison"[/p][/quote]Indeed. He'll soon be wearing a very different kind of pearl necklace hmw

5:58pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Mary80 says...

SotonGreen wrote:
I feel sorry for you Mary80. So much anger, so much hate it must be tearing your soul apart.
He's a scumbag who has a whole laundry list of offences why should we feel pity for him? I had a hard life does that mean i'm allowed to go and stab someone with scissors? Live in the real world for once
[quote][p][bold]SotonGreen[/bold] wrote: I feel sorry for you Mary80. So much anger, so much hate it must be tearing your soul apart.[/p][/quote]He's a scumbag who has a whole laundry list of offences why should we feel pity for him? I had a hard life does that mean i'm allowed to go and stab someone with scissors? Live in the real world for once Mary80

6:31pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Reality-man says...

'A Butt'??? and no a doubt A Butt that will be targeted by some big strong boys inside. Enjoy
'A Butt'??? and no a doubt A Butt that will be targeted by some big strong boys inside. Enjoy Reality-man

6:40pm Fri 21 Feb 14

solomum says...

SotonGreen wrote:
I feel sorry for you Mary80. So much anger, so much hate it must be tearing your soul apart.
How do you gleam hate and anger from Mary80's post? What she said is true. There are a lot of people who had a dreadful upbringing, but that does not possibly excuse continuous criminal activity that has horrendous consequences for others. Though quite how someone gets to 17 without proper intervention being put into place is beyond me. I really hope and pray that this guy has his life changed for the better whilst in prison and will only be released if and when he is no longer considered a danger to society.
[quote][p][bold]SotonGreen[/bold] wrote: I feel sorry for you Mary80. So much anger, so much hate it must be tearing your soul apart.[/p][/quote]How do you gleam hate and anger from Mary80's post? What she said is true. There are a lot of people who had a dreadful upbringing, but that does not possibly excuse continuous criminal activity that has horrendous consequences for others. Though quite how someone gets to 17 without proper intervention being put into place is beyond me. I really hope and pray that this guy has his life changed for the better whilst in prison and will only be released if and when he is no longer considered a danger to society. solomum

7:13pm Fri 21 Feb 14

vpharm says...

what the hell did the VICTIM he stabbed go through?

The criminal should had got 20 years!

steralise him so he cant breed!
Breed out criminals!
what the hell did the VICTIM he stabbed go through? The criminal should had got 20 years! steralise him so he cant breed! Breed out criminals! vpharm

7:14pm Fri 21 Feb 14

hedge end bob says...

Mary80 wrote:
SotonGreen wrote: I feel sorry for you Mary80. So much anger, so much hate it must be tearing your soul apart.
He's a scumbag who has a whole laundry list of offences why should we feel pity for him? I had a hard life does that mean i'm allowed to go and stab someone with scissors? Live in the real world for once
It's better Mary80 vents his/her anger in words and not scissors. I suppose you have not stopped crying for the thug ???. Like they say , GET REAL.
[quote][p][bold]Mary80[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SotonGreen[/bold] wrote: I feel sorry for you Mary80. So much anger, so much hate it must be tearing your soul apart.[/p][/quote]He's a scumbag who has a whole laundry list of offences why should we feel pity for him? I had a hard life does that mean i'm allowed to go and stab someone with scissors? Live in the real world for once[/p][/quote]It's better Mary80 vents his/her anger in words and not scissors. I suppose you have not stopped crying for the thug ???. Like they say , GET REAL. hedge end bob

7:44pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Huey says...

He is gonna learn some real lessons inside ahahahahaha
He is gonna learn some real lessons inside ahahahahaha Huey

7:46pm Fri 21 Feb 14

Mary80 says...

solomum wrote:
SotonGreen wrote:
I feel sorry for you Mary80. So much anger, so much hate it must be tearing your soul apart.
How do you gleam hate and anger from Mary80's post? What she said is true. There are a lot of people who had a dreadful upbringing, but that does not possibly excuse continuous criminal activity that has horrendous consequences for others. Though quite how someone gets to 17 without proper intervention being put into place is beyond me. I really hope and pray that this guy has his life changed for the better whilst in prison and will only be released if and when he is no longer considered a danger to society.
On this comment section there are sadly people here whose opinions are dumb. Thankfully there's more intelligent people here. And its not anger i'm tired of the age old "he had a hard life" excuse as to why the git has TWENTY SIX previous convictions. He stabbed someone with scissors got caught, and then tried the old "i'll cry in court to get pity" act and thankfully it hasn't worked. Having a hard life doesnt give people the excuse to go out and try and murder someone over a bloody phone of all things. Clearly the guy hasnt/won't learnt any kind of lesson so i highly doubt a stretch behind bars is going to do a blind bit of difference.
[quote][p][bold]solomum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SotonGreen[/bold] wrote: I feel sorry for you Mary80. So much anger, so much hate it must be tearing your soul apart.[/p][/quote]How do you gleam hate and anger from Mary80's post? What she said is true. There are a lot of people who had a dreadful upbringing, but that does not possibly excuse continuous criminal activity that has horrendous consequences for others. Though quite how someone gets to 17 without proper intervention being put into place is beyond me. I really hope and pray that this guy has his life changed for the better whilst in prison and will only be released if and when he is no longer considered a danger to society.[/p][/quote]On this comment section there are sadly people here whose opinions are dumb. Thankfully there's more intelligent people here. And its not anger i'm tired of the age old "he had a hard life" excuse as to why the git has TWENTY SIX previous convictions. He stabbed someone with scissors got caught, and then tried the old "i'll cry in court to get pity" act and thankfully it hasn't worked. Having a hard life doesnt give people the excuse to go out and try and murder someone over a bloody phone of all things. Clearly the guy hasnt/won't learnt any kind of lesson so i highly doubt a stretch behind bars is going to do a blind bit of difference. Mary80

11:30pm Fri 21 Feb 14

wwozzer says...

The parents should be locked up too for "raising" such a waste of blood and organs.
The parents should be locked up too for "raising" such a waste of blood and organs. wwozzer

12:31am Sat 22 Feb 14

storm5 says...

With how this is wrote I understand all comments. But alot of lies were in the court room. We must understand how some people play the game well. And that's not from the accused. .... plus where did the crying come from? ??? More fulse information from our trusted papers.....
With how this is wrote I understand all comments. But alot of lies were in the court room. We must understand how some people play the game well. And that's not from the accused. .... plus where did the crying come from? ??? More fulse information from our trusted papers..... storm5

1:03am Sat 22 Feb 14

Mary80 says...

storm5 wrote:
With how this is wrote I understand all comments. But alot of lies were in the court room. We must understand how some people play the game well. And that's not from the accused. .... plus where did the crying come from? ??? More fulse information from our trusted papers.....
What about the person he STABBED with scissors huh gonna just ignore that FACT too?
[quote][p][bold]storm5[/bold] wrote: With how this is wrote I understand all comments. But alot of lies were in the court room. We must understand how some people play the game well. And that's not from the accused. .... plus where did the crying come from? ??? More fulse information from our trusted papers.....[/p][/quote]What about the person he STABBED with scissors huh gonna just ignore that FACT too? Mary80

7:37am Sat 22 Feb 14

roofspace says...

Dai Rear wrote:
"From your snide remark you were obviously a product of compassionate caring Thatcherism"
Can we lay this canard to rest? Political parties of any sort can be neither compassionate nor caring. These are individual human characteristics. What you mean, I think, is "spending a lot of other people's money on other people (frequently to no good effect)"
By this criterion the governments in the 1st and 2nd World Wars would have been the most "compassionate and caring" Think about it.
Well you thought wrong - very wrong.
What a load of piffle.
Try not be so pretentious in future and you be will not be open to ridicule.
I would surmise you were not an adult prior and during the Thatcher years or you would have had the nuance to realize what I was trying to convey.....
[quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: "From your snide remark you were obviously a product of compassionate caring Thatcherism" Can we lay this canard to rest? Political parties of any sort can be neither compassionate nor caring. These are individual human characteristics. What you mean, I think, is "spending a lot of other people's money on other people (frequently to no good effect)" By this criterion the governments in the 1st and 2nd World Wars would have been the most "compassionate and caring" Think about it.[/p][/quote]Well you thought wrong - very wrong. What a load of piffle. Try not be so pretentious in future and you be will not be open to ridicule. I would surmise you were not an adult prior and during the Thatcher years or you would have had the nuance to realize what I was trying to convey..... roofspace

8:49am Sun 23 Feb 14

Pobinr says...

It's going to cost us all £30k a tear to keep this in a hotel .
Makes you wonder if China really is wrong to have labour camps for pond life like this?
It's going to cost us all £30k a tear to keep this in a hotel [prison]. Makes you wonder if China really is wrong to have labour camps for pond life like this? Pobinr

7:52pm Sun 2 Mar 14

Rina73 says...

His parents are most probably scum like him anyway,
Mum a street corner worker and dad a drug dealer...
His parents are most probably scum like him anyway, Mum a street corner worker and dad a drug dealer... Rina73

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