Three lorry crash closes westbound M27 motorway at junction nine

Daily Echo: Lorry crash causes motorway delays Lorry crash causes motorway delays

A MAN has been taken to hospital following a three-lorry crash this morning which closed the motorway.

The accident happened on the westbound carriageway of the M27, at junction eight for Bursledon, around 8.30am and firefighters had to free a man from a lorry cab.

Daily Echo:

The cab in the lorry that is between the other two lorries had collapsed and the driver was trapped.

Police had to close the whole motorway to allow the air ambulance to land, but in the end it was stood down.

The driver was trapped from the waist down and the steering wheel was pressed against his stomach and was assessed by a doctor at the scene.

He was then taken to Southampton General Hospital by ambulance.

Daily Echo:

Crews from Fareham, Hightown and Cosham attended.

Police had closed the road at junction nine for Whiteley going westbound to stop people going on to the carriageway and have closed lanes one and two of the motorway at junction eight and put diversions in place.

Officers opened lanes two and three of the westbound carriageway to alleviate tailbacks by 11.30am, albeit with a 40mph speed limit.

Daily Echo:

Lane two was closed again for a time when the vehicles were being recovered.

The road was fully reopened by 12.40, although delays were still blighting the motorway as traffic tried to return to normal.

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9:46am Mon 24 Feb 14

From the sidelines says...

Meanwhile, cyclists on the A27 are unaffected.

Buwahahaha!
Meanwhile, cyclists on the A27 are unaffected. Buwahahaha! From the sidelines

9:50am Mon 24 Feb 14

one in a million says...

Another day another serious accident on our road network. When is the local government going to wake up and improve the infrastructure in the area?
Another day another serious accident on our road network. When is the local government going to wake up and improve the infrastructure in the area? one in a million

9:51am Mon 24 Feb 14

sotonbusdriver says...

Just seen update from Constabulary that M27 will be closed both way shortly to allow air ambulance to land,
So the injured drivers, are seriously hurt to order helicopter...
Hope those involved recover soon
Just seen update from Constabulary that M27 will be closed both way shortly to allow air ambulance to land, So the injured drivers, are seriously hurt to order helicopter... Hope those involved recover soon sotonbusdriver

9:58am Mon 24 Feb 14

AFrustratedCyclist says...

ahh it's the infrastructure jumping out on motorists now and causing the accidents, now I understand.

Yes accidents happen, but I thought most accidents were caused by inattention, speed, driving to close, distractions, mobile phones etc. e.g. the fallibility of people in charge of the vehicles. Some motorists need to take responsibility for themselves and their actions.

oh and yes I'm a motorist too
ahh it's the infrastructure jumping out on motorists now and causing the accidents, now I understand. Yes accidents happen, but I thought most accidents were caused by inattention, speed, driving to close, distractions, mobile phones etc. e.g. the fallibility of people in charge of the vehicles. Some motorists need to take responsibility for themselves and their actions. oh and yes I'm a motorist too AFrustratedCyclist

10:03am Mon 24 Feb 14

bigfella says...

one in a million wrote:
Another day another serious accident on our road network. When is the local government going to wake up and improve the infrastructure in the area?
one in a million? you're certainly that. thankfully
[quote][p][bold]one in a million[/bold] wrote: Another day another serious accident on our road network. When is the local government going to wake up and improve the infrastructure in the area?[/p][/quote]one in a million? you're certainly that. thankfully bigfella

10:05am Mon 24 Feb 14

camerajuan says...

one in a million wrote:
Another day another serious accident on our road network. When is the local government going to wake up and improve the infrastructure in the area?
Improve the driving in the area first! You can't blame the way the road is for crashes. People know where things are and can avoid them if they drive with due care and attention. Y'know, safely!

Same as you can't blame a table when you stub your toe! YOU kicked it! It's been there for years! Walk around it!
[quote][p][bold]one in a million[/bold] wrote: Another day another serious accident on our road network. When is the local government going to wake up and improve the infrastructure in the area?[/p][/quote]Improve the driving in the area first! You can't blame the way the road is for crashes. People know where things are and can avoid them if they drive with due care and attention. Y'know, safely! Same as you can't blame a table when you stub your toe! YOU kicked it! It's been there for years! Walk around it! camerajuan

10:25am Mon 24 Feb 14

Micle1974 says...

The infastructure was improved on the M27 between Fareham - Portsmouth - Fareham to allow a 4th lane......

Problem is that nobody uses the left hand lane and when people use the 4th lane people in the 3rd lane dont want to move over and let the people merge from lane 4 into lane 3.

I know this is not related to the accident, but just thought i would post it as I spend many hours a day on the motor ways and drivers need to be educated on how to KEEP LEFT UNLESS OVERTAKING
Thank you :)
The infastructure was improved on the M27 between Fareham - Portsmouth - Fareham to allow a 4th lane...... Problem is that nobody uses the left hand lane and when people use the 4th lane people in the 3rd lane dont want to move over and let the people merge from lane 4 into lane 3. I know this is not related to the accident, but just thought i would post it as I spend many hours a day on the motor ways and drivers need to be educated on how to KEEP LEFT UNLESS OVERTAKING Thank you :) Micle1974

11:02am Mon 24 Feb 14

Mary80 says...

In my experience lorry drivers do tend to merge without looking nearly had several narrow escapes as the daft twonks tried to merge as the car was still in the lane. Re education to USE YOUR MIRRORS for lorry drivers is a must
In my experience lorry drivers do tend to merge without looking nearly had several narrow escapes as the daft twonks tried to merge as the car was still in the lane. Re education to USE YOUR MIRRORS for lorry drivers is a must Mary80

11:06am Mon 24 Feb 14

beesdee says...

Micle1974 wrote:
The infastructure was improved on the M27 between Fareham - Portsmouth - Fareham to allow a 4th lane......

Problem is that nobody uses the left hand lane and when people use the 4th lane people in the 3rd lane dont want to move over and let the people merge from lane 4 into lane 3.

I know this is not related to the accident, but just thought i would post it as I spend many hours a day on the motor ways and drivers need to be educated on how to KEEP LEFT UNLESS OVERTAKING
Thank you :)
Unfortunately, I don't think education would have any impact. Most drivers just don't give a toss about lane discipline because they're lazy.
[quote][p][bold]Micle1974[/bold] wrote: The infastructure was improved on the M27 between Fareham - Portsmouth - Fareham to allow a 4th lane...... Problem is that nobody uses the left hand lane and when people use the 4th lane people in the 3rd lane dont want to move over and let the people merge from lane 4 into lane 3. I know this is not related to the accident, but just thought i would post it as I spend many hours a day on the motor ways and drivers need to be educated on how to KEEP LEFT UNLESS OVERTAKING Thank you :)[/p][/quote]Unfortunately, I don't think education would have any impact. Most drivers just don't give a toss about lane discipline because they're lazy. beesdee

11:50am Mon 24 Feb 14

boilerman says...

I travelled to Hull and back 2 weeks ago, the driving conditions were bad with poor visibilty there and back, the number of lorry drivers that were driving about 5ft from the vehicle in front was too many to count, they also indicate and pull straight out making yo take evasive action.
Lorries should be made to stay in the inside lane.
I travelled to Hull and back 2 weeks ago, the driving conditions were bad with poor visibilty there and back, the number of lorry drivers that were driving about 5ft from the vehicle in front was too many to count, they also indicate and pull straight out making yo take evasive action. Lorries should be made to stay in the inside lane. boilerman

12:09pm Mon 24 Feb 14

kiddynamite says...

one in a million wrote:
Another day another serious accident on our road network. When is the local government going to wake up and improve the infrastructure in the area?
Its hardly their fault! I witness the lack of driving ability in this country every single day. Sadly white van man and lorry dude are the worst!
[quote][p][bold]one in a million[/bold] wrote: Another day another serious accident on our road network. When is the local government going to wake up and improve the infrastructure in the area?[/p][/quote]Its hardly their fault! I witness the lack of driving ability in this country every single day. Sadly white van man and lorry dude are the worst! kiddynamite

12:15pm Mon 24 Feb 14

The irate commuter says...

No doubt someone again not paying attention to the queue in front!

It's time ALL lorries were banned from major roads during the rush hour to dramatically reduce the daily congestion.
No doubt someone again not paying attention to the queue in front! It's time ALL lorries were banned from major roads during the rush hour to dramatically reduce the daily congestion. The irate commuter

12:50pm Mon 24 Feb 14

From the sidelines says...

one in a million wrote:
Another day another serious accident on our road network. When is the local government going to wake up and improve the infrastructure in the area?
Local government improving the infrastructure? Some hope.

They're too busy approving plans to cover the area with yet more houses. Your infrastructure is going to grind to a halt.
[quote][p][bold]one in a million[/bold] wrote: Another day another serious accident on our road network. When is the local government going to wake up and improve the infrastructure in the area?[/p][/quote]Local government improving the infrastructure? Some hope. They're too busy approving plans to cover the area with yet more houses. Your infrastructure is going to grind to a halt. From the sidelines

1:19pm Mon 24 Feb 14

camerajuan says...

The irate commuter wrote:
No doubt someone again not paying attention to the queue in front!

It's time ALL lorries were banned from major roads during the rush hour to dramatically reduce the daily congestion.
Highly doubt that will happen, think of all the businesses that depend on deliveries from lorries and trucks that will inevitably need to use major roads at that time in the morning, especially Long Distance drivers or petrol trucks!

Imagine the utter outrage if all lorries were banned in rush hour before "office hours" started?! Then people couldn't fill up to get to work and lose their minds even more then they already do!

Wouldn't work!
[quote][p][bold]The irate commuter[/bold] wrote: No doubt someone again not paying attention to the queue in front! It's time ALL lorries were banned from major roads during the rush hour to dramatically reduce the daily congestion.[/p][/quote]Highly doubt that will happen, think of all the businesses that depend on deliveries from lorries and trucks that will inevitably need to use major roads at that time in the morning, especially Long Distance drivers or petrol trucks! Imagine the utter outrage if all lorries were banned in rush hour before "office hours" started?! Then people couldn't fill up to get to work and lose their minds even more then they already do! Wouldn't work! camerajuan

1:35pm Mon 24 Feb 14

100%HANTSBOY says...

Mary80 wrote:
In my experience lorry drivers do tend to merge without looking nearly had several narrow escapes as the daft twonks tried to merge as the car was still in the lane. Re education to USE YOUR MIRRORS for lorry drivers is a must
It's usually the Lorry driver not wishing to lose speed/momentum and thet will indicate and you should act accordingly. ...1. Yield (let them out) 2.slow down 3.speed up or 4. Move to the third lane and let them come out. You should be able to do one of the above,otherwise I think its called hogging the middle lane!
[quote][p][bold]Mary80[/bold] wrote: In my experience lorry drivers do tend to merge without looking nearly had several narrow escapes as the daft twonks tried to merge as the car was still in the lane. Re education to USE YOUR MIRRORS for lorry drivers is a must[/p][/quote]It's usually the Lorry driver not wishing to lose speed/momentum and thet will indicate and you should act accordingly. ...1. Yield (let them out) 2.slow down 3.speed up or 4. Move to the third lane and let them come out. You should be able to do one of the above,otherwise I think its called hogging the middle lane! 100%HANTSBOY

2:37pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Captain Dun says...

I was pleased to see that - once the emergency services were dealing with the top priority of tending to the injured - police started to turn round the trapped vehicles and send them back to junction 9. Thanks to them for saving some motorists from being stuck in the closed section for hours.
I was pleased to see that - once the emergency services were dealing with the top priority of tending to the injured - police started to turn round the trapped vehicles and send them back to junction 9. Thanks to them for saving some motorists from being stuck in the closed section for hours. Captain Dun

4:08pm Mon 24 Feb 14

mickey01 says...

beesdee wrote:
Micle1974 wrote:
The infastructure was improved on the M27 between Fareham - Portsmouth - Fareham to allow a 4th lane......

Problem is that nobody uses the left hand lane and when people use the 4th lane people in the 3rd lane dont want to move over and let the people merge from lane 4 into lane 3.

I know this is not related to the accident, but just thought i would post it as I spend many hours a day on the motor ways and drivers need to be educated on how to KEEP LEFT UNLESS OVERTAKING
Thank you :)
Unfortunately, I don't think education would have any impact. Most drivers just don't give a toss about lane discipline because they're lazy.
has anyone actually been done for hogging the middle lane as i see it all day everyday especially on the m27
[quote][p][bold]beesdee[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Micle1974[/bold] wrote: The infastructure was improved on the M27 between Fareham - Portsmouth - Fareham to allow a 4th lane...... Problem is that nobody uses the left hand lane and when people use the 4th lane people in the 3rd lane dont want to move over and let the people merge from lane 4 into lane 3. I know this is not related to the accident, but just thought i would post it as I spend many hours a day on the motor ways and drivers need to be educated on how to KEEP LEFT UNLESS OVERTAKING Thank you :)[/p][/quote]Unfortunately, I don't think education would have any impact. Most drivers just don't give a toss about lane discipline because they're lazy.[/p][/quote]has anyone actually been done for hogging the middle lane as i see it all day everyday especially on the m27 mickey01

5:05pm Mon 24 Feb 14

The irate commuter says...

camerajuan wrote:
The irate commuter wrote: No doubt someone again not paying attention to the queue in front! It's time ALL lorries were banned from major roads during the rush hour to dramatically reduce the daily congestion.
Highly doubt that will happen, think of all the businesses that depend on deliveries from lorries and trucks that will inevitably need to use major roads at that time in the morning, especially Long Distance drivers or petrol trucks! Imagine the utter outrage if all lorries were banned in rush hour before "office hours" started?! Then people couldn't fill up to get to work and lose their minds even more then they already do! Wouldn't work!
Simple .... any delivery that needs to be done during rush hour needs to apply for a licence.

Anybody else would need to haul up in a service station etc until after 9am.

I have only given it 2 mins thought BUT it needs some creative thinking to rid ourselves of constant gridlock on the M27, A27, M3 etc etc etc etc
[quote][p][bold]camerajuan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The irate commuter[/bold] wrote: No doubt someone again not paying attention to the queue in front! It's time ALL lorries were banned from major roads during the rush hour to dramatically reduce the daily congestion.[/p][/quote]Highly doubt that will happen, think of all the businesses that depend on deliveries from lorries and trucks that will inevitably need to use major roads at that time in the morning, especially Long Distance drivers or petrol trucks! Imagine the utter outrage if all lorries were banned in rush hour before "office hours" started?! Then people couldn't fill up to get to work and lose their minds even more then they already do! Wouldn't work![/p][/quote]Simple .... any delivery that needs to be done during rush hour needs to apply for a licence. Anybody else would need to haul up in a service station etc until after 9am. I have only given it 2 mins thought BUT it needs some creative thinking to rid ourselves of constant gridlock on the M27, A27, M3 etc etc etc etc The irate commuter

6:23pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Torchie1 says...

The irate commuter wrote:
camerajuan wrote:
The irate commuter wrote: No doubt someone again not paying attention to the queue in front! It's time ALL lorries were banned from major roads during the rush hour to dramatically reduce the daily congestion.
Highly doubt that will happen, think of all the businesses that depend on deliveries from lorries and trucks that will inevitably need to use major roads at that time in the morning, especially Long Distance drivers or petrol trucks! Imagine the utter outrage if all lorries were banned in rush hour before "office hours" started?! Then people couldn't fill up to get to work and lose their minds even more then they already do! Wouldn't work!
Simple .... any delivery that needs to be done during rush hour needs to apply for a licence.

Anybody else would need to haul up in a service station etc until after 9am.

I have only given it 2 mins thought BUT it needs some creative thinking to rid ourselves of constant gridlock on the M27, A27, M3 etc etc etc etc
Naturally you would be happy to pay more for any goods transported by these trucks if the road hauliers decided that they weren't going to absorb any increase in costs caused by these restrictions.
[quote][p][bold]The irate commuter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]camerajuan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The irate commuter[/bold] wrote: No doubt someone again not paying attention to the queue in front! It's time ALL lorries were banned from major roads during the rush hour to dramatically reduce the daily congestion.[/p][/quote]Highly doubt that will happen, think of all the businesses that depend on deliveries from lorries and trucks that will inevitably need to use major roads at that time in the morning, especially Long Distance drivers or petrol trucks! Imagine the utter outrage if all lorries were banned in rush hour before "office hours" started?! Then people couldn't fill up to get to work and lose their minds even more then they already do! Wouldn't work![/p][/quote]Simple .... any delivery that needs to be done during rush hour needs to apply for a licence. Anybody else would need to haul up in a service station etc until after 9am. I have only given it 2 mins thought BUT it needs some creative thinking to rid ourselves of constant gridlock on the M27, A27, M3 etc etc etc etc[/p][/quote]Naturally you would be happy to pay more for any goods transported by these trucks if the road hauliers decided that they weren't going to absorb any increase in costs caused by these restrictions. Torchie1

6:59pm Mon 24 Feb 14

NotoNwo says...

ALL THOSE WHO SAY LORRIES SHOULD BE BANNED AT RUSH HOURS ARE UTTERLY STUPID.
It's because small vehicle drivers do not know how to drive with lorries around them, the worst drivers are the subordinates driving to their offices to conform for 8 hours.
Lorries do not just pull out when they indicate smaller vehicles should and can adjust quicker. Lorries sometimes need help ie a flash of lights to say that they can move BACK into the inner lane. If they lose speed the overttake will take longer.

Also nearly everything you eat drink and buy has at some stage been in a lorry. Show them some respect for their work.

Today's accident could have been because of commuter in a leased vehicle or hire purchased from their local dealer who thinks they are important.

The M3 does not carry many lorries between junction 1 and 9 both north & south so who is responsible for the accidents along there?
Lorries have a compulsory 6 week safety check, cars drivers can't even replace lightbulb yet criticising HGVs.

Tut tut tomorrow morning on your mundane commutes to work then see who is a bad driver.
ALL THOSE WHO SAY LORRIES SHOULD BE BANNED AT RUSH HOURS ARE UTTERLY STUPID. It's because small vehicle drivers do not know how to drive with lorries around them, the worst drivers are the subordinates driving to their offices to conform for 8 hours. Lorries do not just pull out when they indicate smaller vehicles should and can adjust quicker. Lorries sometimes need help ie a flash of lights to say that they can move BACK into the inner lane. If they lose speed the overttake will take longer. Also nearly everything you eat drink and buy has at some stage been in a lorry. Show them some respect for their work. Today's accident could have been because of commuter in a leased vehicle or hire purchased from their local dealer who thinks they are important. The M3 does not carry many lorries between junction 1 and 9 both north & south so who is responsible for the accidents along there? Lorries have a compulsory 6 week safety check, cars drivers can't even replace lightbulb yet criticising HGVs. Tut tut tomorrow morning on your mundane commutes to work then see who is a bad driver. NotoNwo

8:20pm Mon 24 Feb 14

frustrated1 says...

Accidents happen and thankfully it appears that this time no fatality.
What this incident highlights is the inability of the emergency services (Police and the totally useless Highways Traffic Officers) to deal with the backlog of traffic that sat static for almost 3 hours. Allowing more traffic to join the motorway and not controlling the alternative routes leads to frustration and the possibility of more incidents as people try to make up for lost time.
Why no traffic anouncements on the local radio? Can the Highways Officers not contact the local stations or are they too busy pretending to be policemen?
Accidents happen and thankfully it appears that this time no fatality. What this incident highlights is the inability of the emergency services (Police and the totally useless Highways Traffic Officers) to deal with the backlog of traffic that sat static for almost 3 hours. Allowing more traffic to join the motorway and not controlling the alternative routes leads to frustration and the possibility of more incidents as people try to make up for lost time. Why no traffic anouncements on the local radio? Can the Highways Officers not contact the local stations or are they too busy pretending to be policemen? frustrated1

12:17am Tue 25 Feb 14

dolomiteman says...

100%HANTSBOY wrote:
Mary80 wrote:
In my experience lorry drivers do tend to merge without looking nearly had several narrow escapes as the daft twonks tried to merge as the car was still in the lane. Re education to USE YOUR MIRRORS for lorry drivers is a must
It's usually the Lorry driver not wishing to lose speed/momentum and thet will indicate and you should act accordingly. ...1. Yield (let them out) 2.slow down 3.speed up or 4. Move to the third lane and let them come out. You should be able to do one of the above,otherwise I think its called hogging the middle lane!
Hantsboy, I suggest you read the highway code, I drive an HGV and it does not say that you have a right to pull out not does it tell car driver s to yield. Indicators are there to let other know you want to change lanes and you have to wait until it is safe to change lanes not just barge your way across.
[quote][p][bold]100%HANTSBOY[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mary80[/bold] wrote: In my experience lorry drivers do tend to merge without looking nearly had several narrow escapes as the daft twonks tried to merge as the car was still in the lane. Re education to USE YOUR MIRRORS for lorry drivers is a must[/p][/quote]It's usually the Lorry driver not wishing to lose speed/momentum and thet will indicate and you should act accordingly. ...1. Yield (let them out) 2.slow down 3.speed up or 4. Move to the third lane and let them come out. You should be able to do one of the above,otherwise I think its called hogging the middle lane![/p][/quote]Hantsboy, I suggest you read the highway code, I drive an HGV and it does not say that you have a right to pull out not does it tell car driver s to yield. Indicators are there to let other know you want to change lanes and you have to wait until it is safe to change lanes not just barge your way across. dolomiteman

9:13am Tue 25 Feb 14

The irate commuter says...

NotoNwo wrote:
ALL THOSE WHO SAY LORRIES SHOULD BE BANNED AT RUSH HOURS ARE UTTERLY STUPID. It's because small vehicle drivers do not know how to drive with lorries around them, the worst drivers are the subordinates driving to their offices to conform for 8 hours. Lorries do not just pull out when they indicate smaller vehicles should and can adjust quicker. Lorries sometimes need help ie a flash of lights to say that they can move BACK into the inner lane. If they lose speed the overttake will take longer. Also nearly everything you eat drink and buy has at some stage been in a lorry. Show them some respect for their work. Today's accident could have been because of commuter in a leased vehicle or hire purchased from their local dealer who thinks they are important. The M3 does not carry many lorries between junction 1 and 9 both north & south so who is responsible for the accidents along there? Lorries have a compulsory 6 week safety check, cars drivers can't even replace lightbulb yet criticising HGVs. Tut tut tomorrow morning on your mundane commutes to work then see who is a bad driver.
Who's the stupid one??

Read my post again! I never mentioned that removing lorries during rush hour was for safety reasons.
[quote][p][bold]NotoNwo[/bold] wrote: ALL THOSE WHO SAY LORRIES SHOULD BE BANNED AT RUSH HOURS ARE UTTERLY STUPID. It's because small vehicle drivers do not know how to drive with lorries around them, the worst drivers are the subordinates driving to their offices to conform for 8 hours. Lorries do not just pull out when they indicate smaller vehicles should and can adjust quicker. Lorries sometimes need help ie a flash of lights to say that they can move BACK into the inner lane. If they lose speed the overttake will take longer. Also nearly everything you eat drink and buy has at some stage been in a lorry. Show them some respect for their work. Today's accident could have been because of commuter in a leased vehicle or hire purchased from their local dealer who thinks they are important. The M3 does not carry many lorries between junction 1 and 9 both north & south so who is responsible for the accidents along there? Lorries have a compulsory 6 week safety check, cars drivers can't even replace lightbulb yet criticising HGVs. Tut tut tomorrow morning on your mundane commutes to work then see who is a bad driver.[/p][/quote]Who's the stupid one?? Read my post again! I never mentioned that removing lorries during rush hour was for safety reasons. The irate commuter

12:58pm Tue 25 Feb 14

nuttysaint says...

boilerman wrote:
I travelled to Hull and back 2 weeks ago, the driving conditions were bad with poor visibilty there and back, the number of lorry drivers that were driving about 5ft from the vehicle in front was too many to count, they also indicate and pull straight out making yo take evasive action.
Lorries should be made to stay in the inside lane.
Tw@t! Your obviously one of those w@nkers that are too ignorant to let lorries out when they need to overtake (some lorries are faster than others believe it or not), causing the lorry to have to brake suddenly, lose momentum then cause pile ups behind them coz they've had to slow down to 30mph on a motorway rather than you do the educated thing and move over to the 3rd lane, yes funnily enough there is a 3rd lane you car drivers can use
[quote][p][bold]boilerman[/bold] wrote: I travelled to Hull and back 2 weeks ago, the driving conditions were bad with poor visibilty there and back, the number of lorry drivers that were driving about 5ft from the vehicle in front was too many to count, they also indicate and pull straight out making yo take evasive action. Lorries should be made to stay in the inside lane.[/p][/quote]Tw@t! Your obviously one of those w@nkers that are too ignorant to let lorries out when they need to overtake (some lorries are faster than others believe it or not), causing the lorry to have to brake suddenly, lose momentum then cause pile ups behind them coz they've had to slow down to 30mph on a motorway rather than you do the educated thing and move over to the 3rd lane, yes funnily enough there is a 3rd lane you car drivers can use nuttysaint

12:58pm Tue 25 Feb 14

nuttysaint says...

boilerman wrote:
I travelled to Hull and back 2 weeks ago, the driving conditions were bad with poor visibilty there and back, the number of lorry drivers that were driving about 5ft from the vehicle in front was too many to count, they also indicate and pull straight out making yo take evasive action.
Lorries should be made to stay in the inside lane.
Tw@t! Your obviously one of those w@nkers that are too ignorant to let lorries out when they need to overtake (some lorries are faster than others believe it or not), causing the lorry to have to brake suddenly, lose momentum then cause pile ups behind them coz they've had to slow down to 30mph on a motorway rather than you do the educated thing and move over to the 3rd lane, yes funnily enough there is a 3rd lane you car drivers can use
[quote][p][bold]boilerman[/bold] wrote: I travelled to Hull and back 2 weeks ago, the driving conditions were bad with poor visibilty there and back, the number of lorry drivers that were driving about 5ft from the vehicle in front was too many to count, they also indicate and pull straight out making yo take evasive action. Lorries should be made to stay in the inside lane.[/p][/quote]Tw@t! Your obviously one of those w@nkers that are too ignorant to let lorries out when they need to overtake (some lorries are faster than others believe it or not), causing the lorry to have to brake suddenly, lose momentum then cause pile ups behind them coz they've had to slow down to 30mph on a motorway rather than you do the educated thing and move over to the 3rd lane, yes funnily enough there is a 3rd lane you car drivers can use nuttysaint

1:26pm Tue 25 Feb 14

lowe esteem says...

nuttysaint wrote:
boilerman wrote:
I travelled to Hull and back 2 weeks ago, the driving conditions were bad with poor visibilty there and back, the number of lorry drivers that were driving about 5ft from the vehicle in front was too many to count, they also indicate and pull straight out making yo take evasive action.
Lorries should be made to stay in the inside lane.
Tw@t! Your obviously one of those w@nkers that are too ignorant to let lorries out when they need to overtake (some lorries are faster than others believe it or not), causing the lorry to have to brake suddenly, lose momentum then cause pile ups behind them coz they've had to slow down to 30mph on a motorway rather than you do the educated thing and move over to the 3rd lane, yes funnily enough there is a 3rd lane you car drivers can use
Steady on. No need for that. Mirror, signal manoeuvre was never meant to be all in one go, it's a logical process requiring ongoing consideration, something that appears to be missing from a lot of drivers and correspondents.
You should try and drive more defensively, if you really do believe that 'all the others' are wrong, then it follows that you should be more careful surely?
[quote][p][bold]nuttysaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]boilerman[/bold] wrote: I travelled to Hull and back 2 weeks ago, the driving conditions were bad with poor visibilty there and back, the number of lorry drivers that were driving about 5ft from the vehicle in front was too many to count, they also indicate and pull straight out making yo take evasive action. Lorries should be made to stay in the inside lane.[/p][/quote]Tw@t! Your obviously one of those w@nkers that are too ignorant to let lorries out when they need to overtake (some lorries are faster than others believe it or not), causing the lorry to have to brake suddenly, lose momentum then cause pile ups behind them coz they've had to slow down to 30mph on a motorway rather than you do the educated thing and move over to the 3rd lane, yes funnily enough there is a 3rd lane you car drivers can use[/p][/quote]Steady on. No need for that. Mirror, signal manoeuvre was never meant to be all in one go, it's a logical process requiring ongoing consideration, something that appears to be missing from a lot of drivers and correspondents. You should try and drive more defensively, if you really do believe that 'all the others' are wrong, then it follows that you should be more careful surely? lowe esteem

12:21am Wed 5 Mar 14

Zexagon says...

dolomiteman wrote:
100%HANTSBOY wrote:
Mary80 wrote:
In my experience lorry drivers do tend to merge without looking nearly had several narrow escapes as the daft twonks tried to merge as the car was still in the lane. Re education to USE YOUR MIRRORS for lorry drivers is a must
It's usually the Lorry driver not wishing to lose speed/momentum and thet will indicate and you should act accordingly. ...1. Yield (let them out) 2.slow down 3.speed up or 4. Move to the third lane and let them come out. You should be able to do one of the above,otherwise I think its called hogging the middle lane!
Hantsboy, I suggest you read the highway code, I drive an HGV and it does not say that you have a right to pull out not does it tell car driver s to yield. Indicators are there to let other know you want to change lanes and you have to wait until it is safe to change lanes not just barge your way across.
I might try staying on the inside lane when approaching an entry slip road. I'll tell all the friendly lorry drivers that you said it's ok to stay in that lane and I didn't have to pull over to let them pull out.
[quote][p][bold]dolomiteman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]100%HANTSBOY[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mary80[/bold] wrote: In my experience lorry drivers do tend to merge without looking nearly had several narrow escapes as the daft twonks tried to merge as the car was still in the lane. Re education to USE YOUR MIRRORS for lorry drivers is a must[/p][/quote]It's usually the Lorry driver not wishing to lose speed/momentum and thet will indicate and you should act accordingly. ...1. Yield (let them out) 2.slow down 3.speed up or 4. Move to the third lane and let them come out. You should be able to do one of the above,otherwise I think its called hogging the middle lane![/p][/quote]Hantsboy, I suggest you read the highway code, I drive an HGV and it does not say that you have a right to pull out not does it tell car driver s to yield. Indicators are there to let other know you want to change lanes and you have to wait until it is safe to change lanes not just barge your way across.[/p][/quote]I might try staying on the inside lane when approaching an entry slip road. I'll tell all the friendly lorry drivers that you said it's ok to stay in that lane and I didn't have to pull over to let them pull out. Zexagon

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