Tempers flare at village flood event

Daily Echo: Tempers flare at village flood event Tempers flare at village flood event

IT was meant to be a fun way to rally support for flood defences.

Instead a duck race on a road closed by flooding in a Hampshire village ended in violence.

A motorcyclist who rode past signs saying the road through Bramdean was shut threw a punch at one of the villagers who confronted him.

The man, who asked not to be named, said: “The road is clearly closed and there are a lot of children here trying to have fun.

“I asked him to drive around the road closure and he tried to swing for me. It’s unbelievable.”

Resident Jilly Berryman, of Wood Lane, said: “This is what we’ve had to face every day; drivers getting violent towards local residents. Just the other day a freight lorry came through here doing 35mph and created an eight foot bow wave. It’s creating so many problems for the houses here. It’s very upsetting.”

Organiser Pippa Deakin-Stephenson said threats of violence towards villagers was just one of many problems the residents had faced.

“The idea behind today was to bring the whole village together to share their feelings about it,” she said. “We would like the council to either redirect the A272 or put in the correct means with the money they’re receiving from the Government to put this right.

“We don’t want that money to be diverted into more desk jobs. We want it used properly.

“It’s an arterial road vital to our community and there should be cars and lorries going down it not yellow ducks.

“We have suffered severely and we’re all asking how we are going to stop this happening again.

“I’ve even offered my garden to the council to dig up and put in storm drains because I’d rather do that than have this happen again.”

Nearly £100 was raised from entries for the race which saw children splashing happily in the water on skateboards and in waders cheering on their bright-coloured ducks to the finish line.

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12:52pm Mon 24 Feb 14

ToastyTea says...

Should have trashed his motorbike.
Should have trashed his motorbike. ToastyTea
  • Score: -2

1:16pm Mon 24 Feb 14

100%HANTSBOY says...

Kids splashing around in the flood water? I thought the advice was to not go anywhere near flood waters in case of contamination.
Kids splashing around in the flood water? I thought the advice was to not go anywhere near flood waters in case of contamination. 100%HANTSBOY
  • Score: 33

1:33pm Mon 24 Feb 14

kiddynamite says...

8 foot bow wave pml slightly exaggerated i am sure.
8 foot bow wave pml slightly exaggerated i am sure. kiddynamite
  • Score: 17

1:34pm Mon 24 Feb 14

manic75 says...

Stories like this really depress me. Where has respect for one another gone? I do sometimes question why I live here... such a depressing God-foresaken place, especially when I read stories like this. Last week there was the story of the dog abandoned in someone's garden after being injured in an organised fight. Then we have had the stories of young babies killed by idiot owners who leave them with their pet dogs. Idiot is too polite a word to describe them.

I have travelled extensively; there are far nicer people in far prettier places and I wish I lived elsewhere. The attitudes and behaviour we have today (in the main) are not the same, respectful attitudes we had in earlier times. This is a generalization I know, but its a trend. Hate to think what this country will be like in 20 years time.
Stories like this really depress me. Where has respect for one another gone? I do sometimes question why I live here... such a depressing God-foresaken place, especially when I read stories like this. Last week there was the story of the dog abandoned in someone's garden after being injured in an organised fight. Then we have had the stories of young babies killed by idiot owners who leave them with their pet dogs. Idiot is too polite a word to describe them. I have travelled extensively; there are far nicer people in far prettier places and I wish I lived elsewhere. The attitudes and behaviour we have today (in the main) are not the same, respectful attitudes we had in earlier times. This is a generalization I know, but its a trend. Hate to think what this country will be like in 20 years time. manic75
  • Score: 34

2:47pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Totton Tim says...

manic75 wrote:
Stories like this really depress me. Where has respect for one another gone? I do sometimes question why I live here... such a depressing God-foresaken place, especially when I read stories like this. Last week there was the story of the dog abandoned in someone's garden after being injured in an organised fight. Then we have had the stories of young babies killed by idiot owners who leave them with their pet dogs. Idiot is too polite a word to describe them.

I have travelled extensively; there are far nicer people in far prettier places and I wish I lived elsewhere. The attitudes and behaviour we have today (in the main) are not the same, respectful attitudes we had in earlier times. This is a generalization I know, but its a trend. Hate to think what this country will be like in 20 years time.
Couldn't agree more. What's happened in this country? Just about everywhere else you go people have a much more friendly attitude. I also wish I lived elsewhere.
[quote][p][bold]manic75[/bold] wrote: Stories like this really depress me. Where has respect for one another gone? I do sometimes question why I live here... such a depressing God-foresaken place, especially when I read stories like this. Last week there was the story of the dog abandoned in someone's garden after being injured in an organised fight. Then we have had the stories of young babies killed by idiot owners who leave them with their pet dogs. Idiot is too polite a word to describe them. I have travelled extensively; there are far nicer people in far prettier places and I wish I lived elsewhere. The attitudes and behaviour we have today (in the main) are not the same, respectful attitudes we had in earlier times. This is a generalization I know, but its a trend. Hate to think what this country will be like in 20 years time.[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more. What's happened in this country? Just about everywhere else you go people have a much more friendly attitude. I also wish I lived elsewhere. Totton Tim
  • Score: 13

3:10pm Mon 24 Feb 14

RomseyKeith says...

Some drivers and road users have no respect for anyone else. People drive too fast through floods creating waves which further flood affected houses. Some cyclists careen right through red traffic lights at crossroads when there are cars coming the other way (forgetting that the red light applies to all road users). These trends show a generation of people who completely believe in their own superiority over everyone else with no concideration for others. Such a shame.
Totally agree that an 8 ft bow wave sounds ridiculous (I'm 6ft3 myself).
Some drivers and road users have no respect for anyone else. People drive too fast through floods creating waves which further flood affected houses. Some cyclists careen right through red traffic lights at crossroads when there are cars coming the other way (forgetting that the red light applies to all road users). These trends show a generation of people who completely believe in their own superiority over everyone else with no concideration for others. Such a shame. Totally agree that an 8 ft bow wave sounds ridiculous (I'm 6ft3 myself). RomseyKeith
  • Score: 4

3:21pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Inform Al says...

Totton Tim wrote:
manic75 wrote:
Stories like this really depress me. Where has respect for one another gone? I do sometimes question why I live here... such a depressing God-foresaken place, especially when I read stories like this. Last week there was the story of the dog abandoned in someone's garden after being injured in an organised fight. Then we have had the stories of young babies killed by idiot owners who leave them with their pet dogs. Idiot is too polite a word to describe them.

I have travelled extensively; there are far nicer people in far prettier places and I wish I lived elsewhere. The attitudes and behaviour we have today (in the main) are not the same, respectful attitudes we had in earlier times. This is a generalization I know, but its a trend. Hate to think what this country will be like in 20 years time.
Couldn't agree more. What's happened in this country? Just about everywhere else you go people have a much more friendly attitude. I also wish I lived elsewhere.
Been to Syria lately?
[quote][p][bold]Totton Tim[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]manic75[/bold] wrote: Stories like this really depress me. Where has respect for one another gone? I do sometimes question why I live here... such a depressing God-foresaken place, especially when I read stories like this. Last week there was the story of the dog abandoned in someone's garden after being injured in an organised fight. Then we have had the stories of young babies killed by idiot owners who leave them with their pet dogs. Idiot is too polite a word to describe them. I have travelled extensively; there are far nicer people in far prettier places and I wish I lived elsewhere. The attitudes and behaviour we have today (in the main) are not the same, respectful attitudes we had in earlier times. This is a generalization I know, but its a trend. Hate to think what this country will be like in 20 years time.[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more. What's happened in this country? Just about everywhere else you go people have a much more friendly attitude. I also wish I lived elsewhere.[/p][/quote]Been to Syria lately? Inform Al
  • Score: 0

3:31pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Rownhams resident says...

A bow wave is the wave that forms as a vehicle moves through the water. A large bow wave poses a risk to surrounding properties - it is nothing to do with height!
A bow wave is the wave that forms as a vehicle moves through the water. A large bow wave poses a risk to surrounding properties - it is nothing to do with height! Rownhams resident
  • Score: 4

3:52pm Mon 24 Feb 14

SaintsCOYR says...

Wow they must have some super natural villagers one of which has the power to make the exact calculation of a lorries driving speed in this instance he calculated the lorry was going at exactly 35mph!!!
His other attribute is to know exactly what height a wave of water is, in this case 8 feet!!!
Mini 8ft Tsunami caused by lorry travelling at 35mph through Hampshire village.
Unbelievable Jeff
Wow they must have some super natural villagers one of which has the power to make the exact calculation of a lorries driving speed in this instance he calculated the lorry was going at exactly 35mph!!! His other attribute is to know exactly what height a wave of water is, in this case 8 feet!!! Mini 8ft Tsunami caused by lorry travelling at 35mph through Hampshire village. Unbelievable Jeff SaintsCOYR
  • Score: -6

3:54pm Mon 24 Feb 14

S!monOn says...

Rownhams resident wrote:
A bow wave is the wave that forms as a vehicle moves through the water. A large bow wave poses a risk to surrounding properties - it is nothing to do with height!
It would have to be a very large bow wave to cause any serious damage to a house made out of brick or mortar.
[quote][p][bold]Rownhams resident[/bold] wrote: A bow wave is the wave that forms as a vehicle moves through the water. A large bow wave poses a risk to surrounding properties - it is nothing to do with height![/p][/quote]It would have to be a very large bow wave to cause any serious damage to a house made out of brick or mortar. S!monOn
  • Score: -6

3:54pm Mon 24 Feb 14

elvisimo says...

Inform Al wrote:
Totton Tim wrote:
manic75 wrote:
Stories like this really depress me. Where has respect for one another gone? I do sometimes question why I live here... such a depressing God-foresaken place, especially when I read stories like this. Last week there was the story of the dog abandoned in someone's garden after being injured in an organised fight. Then we have had the stories of young babies killed by idiot owners who leave them with their pet dogs. Idiot is too polite a word to describe them.

I have travelled extensively; there are far nicer people in far prettier places and I wish I lived elsewhere. The attitudes and behaviour we have today (in the main) are not the same, respectful attitudes we had in earlier times. This is a generalization I know, but its a trend. Hate to think what this country will be like in 20 years time.
Couldn't agree more. What's happened in this country? Just about everywhere else you go people have a much more friendly attitude. I also wish I lived elsewhere.
Been to Syria lately?
or Swaythling ......
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Totton Tim[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]manic75[/bold] wrote: Stories like this really depress me. Where has respect for one another gone? I do sometimes question why I live here... such a depressing God-foresaken place, especially when I read stories like this. Last week there was the story of the dog abandoned in someone's garden after being injured in an organised fight. Then we have had the stories of young babies killed by idiot owners who leave them with their pet dogs. Idiot is too polite a word to describe them. I have travelled extensively; there are far nicer people in far prettier places and I wish I lived elsewhere. The attitudes and behaviour we have today (in the main) are not the same, respectful attitudes we had in earlier times. This is a generalization I know, but its a trend. Hate to think what this country will be like in 20 years time.[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more. What's happened in this country? Just about everywhere else you go people have a much more friendly attitude. I also wish I lived elsewhere.[/p][/quote]Been to Syria lately?[/p][/quote]or Swaythling ...... elvisimo
  • Score: 6

4:06pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Rownhams resident says...

S!monOn wrote:
Rownhams resident wrote:
A bow wave is the wave that forms as a vehicle moves through the water. A large bow wave poses a risk to surrounding properties - it is nothing to do with height!
It would have to be a very large bow wave to cause any serious damage to a house made out of brick or mortar.
Perhaps not to the bricks and mortar but to the inside of the house by going under doors?
[quote][p][bold]S!monOn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rownhams resident[/bold] wrote: A bow wave is the wave that forms as a vehicle moves through the water. A large bow wave poses a risk to surrounding properties - it is nothing to do with height![/p][/quote]It would have to be a very large bow wave to cause any serious damage to a house made out of brick or mortar.[/p][/quote]Perhaps not to the bricks and mortar but to the inside of the house by going under doors? Rownhams resident
  • Score: 17

6:57pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Huffter says...

manic75 wrote:
Stories like this really depress me. Where has respect for one another gone? I do sometimes question why I live here... such a depressing God-foresaken place, especially when I read stories like this. Last week there was the story of the dog abandoned in someone's garden after being injured in an organised fight. Then we have had the stories of young babies killed by idiot owners who leave them with their pet dogs. Idiot is too polite a word to describe them.

I have travelled extensively; there are far nicer people in far prettier places and I wish I lived elsewhere. The attitudes and behaviour we have today (in the main) are not the same, respectful attitudes we had in earlier times. This is a generalization I know, but its a trend. Hate to think what this country will be like in 20 years time.
Move
[quote][p][bold]manic75[/bold] wrote: Stories like this really depress me. Where has respect for one another gone? I do sometimes question why I live here... such a depressing God-foresaken place, especially when I read stories like this. Last week there was the story of the dog abandoned in someone's garden after being injured in an organised fight. Then we have had the stories of young babies killed by idiot owners who leave them with their pet dogs. Idiot is too polite a word to describe them. I have travelled extensively; there are far nicer people in far prettier places and I wish I lived elsewhere. The attitudes and behaviour we have today (in the main) are not the same, respectful attitudes we had in earlier times. This is a generalization I know, but its a trend. Hate to think what this country will be like in 20 years time.[/p][/quote]Move Huffter
  • Score: 0

7:21pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Dave H Z1 says...

I would like to hear the bikers point of view, all we are hearing is a residents side of the story, who as reported are already wound up over other vehicles driving through the flood......was the resident being threatening towards the biker........Newspap
ers always like to put a slant on a story

Dave H
I would like to hear the bikers point of view, all we are hearing is a residents side of the story, who as reported are already wound up over other vehicles driving through the flood......was the resident being threatening towards the biker........Newspap ers always like to put a slant on a story Dave H Dave H Z1
  • Score: 0

7:23pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Dave H Z1 says...

I would like to hear the bikers point of view, all we are hearing is a residents side of the story, who as reported are already wound up over other vehicles driving through the flood......was the resident being threatening towards the biker........Newspap
ers always like to put a slant on a story

Dave H
I would like to hear the bikers point of view, all we are hearing is a residents side of the story, who as reported are already wound up over other vehicles driving through the flood......was the resident being threatening towards the biker........Newspap ers always like to put a slant on a story Dave H Dave H Z1
  • Score: 0

7:27pm Mon 24 Feb 14

manic75 says...

Huffter wrote:
manic75 wrote:
Stories like this really depress me. Where has respect for one another gone? I do sometimes question why I live here... such a depressing God-foresaken place, especially when I read stories like this. Last week there was the story of the dog abandoned in someone's garden after being injured in an organised fight. Then we have had the stories of young babies killed by idiot owners who leave them with their pet dogs. Idiot is too polite a word to describe them.

I have travelled extensively; there are far nicer people in far prettier places and I wish I lived elsewhere. The attitudes and behaviour we have today (in the main) are not the same, respectful attitudes we had in earlier times. This is a generalization I know, but its a trend. Hate to think what this country will be like in 20 years time.
Move
Seems you advocate this behaviour. I think that explains why we have a problem in this country. For me it's easy. I'm a dual citizen. I'm here because of my job. But come retirement I'm out of here.

Yes there are worse places, no argument there. But what depresses me about the UK is that there is no reason for us to behave like this. In other parts of the world, you can perhaps put a reason on why things are the way they are. In the UK we have it good. So no excuse for this behaviour.

And please do not blame this on the government. Our values and behaviours are our responsibility.
[quote][p][bold]Huffter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]manic75[/bold] wrote: Stories like this really depress me. Where has respect for one another gone? I do sometimes question why I live here... such a depressing God-foresaken place, especially when I read stories like this. Last week there was the story of the dog abandoned in someone's garden after being injured in an organised fight. Then we have had the stories of young babies killed by idiot owners who leave them with their pet dogs. Idiot is too polite a word to describe them. I have travelled extensively; there are far nicer people in far prettier places and I wish I lived elsewhere. The attitudes and behaviour we have today (in the main) are not the same, respectful attitudes we had in earlier times. This is a generalization I know, but its a trend. Hate to think what this country will be like in 20 years time.[/p][/quote]Move[/p][/quote]Seems you advocate this behaviour. I think that explains why we have a problem in this country. For me it's easy. I'm a dual citizen. I'm here because of my job. But come retirement I'm out of here. Yes there are worse places, no argument there. But what depresses me about the UK is that there is no reason for us to behave like this. In other parts of the world, you can perhaps put a reason on why things are the way they are. In the UK we have it good. So no excuse for this behaviour. And please do not blame this on the government. Our values and behaviours are our responsibility. manic75
  • Score: 8

7:50pm Mon 24 Feb 14

Spanner2071 says...

Inconsiderate weekend bikers on the A272?
Surely not!
Inconsiderate weekend bikers on the A272? Surely not! Spanner2071
  • Score: 4

8:51pm Mon 24 Feb 14

country bird says...

Honestly, what has the world and our country come to.

For goodness sake, everyone, stop being heartless, selfish people, and start helping OUR OWN, and stop being so nasty and violent.

People effected by all this flooding or storm damage, do not need others creating more unneccessary misery.

RESPECT others. Do not knock someone else when they are down.

Respect to everyone helping others out with the flood and storm damage and to firefighters, police, ambulance, police & the marine and army.
Your doing a terrific job and I applaud you.
Honestly, what has the world and our country come to. For goodness sake, everyone, stop being heartless, selfish people, and start helping OUR OWN, and stop being so nasty and violent. People effected by all this flooding or storm damage, do not need others creating more unneccessary misery. RESPECT others. Do not knock someone else when they are down. Respect to everyone helping others out with the flood and storm damage and to firefighters, police, ambulance, police & the marine and army. Your doing a terrific job and I applaud you. country bird
  • Score: 5

10:31pm Mon 24 Feb 14

mike coll says...

manic75 wrote:
Huffter wrote:
manic75 wrote:
Stories like this really depress me. Where has respect for one another gone? I do sometimes question why I live here... such a depressing God-foresaken place, especially when I read stories like this. Last week there was the story of the dog abandoned in someone's garden after being injured in an organised fight. Then we have had the stories of young babies killed by idiot owners who leave them with their pet dogs. Idiot is too polite a word to describe them.

I have travelled extensively; there are far nicer people in far prettier places and I wish I lived elsewhere. The attitudes and behaviour we have today (in the main) are not the same, respectful attitudes we had in earlier times. This is a generalization I know, but its a trend. Hate to think what this country will be like in 20 years time.
Move
Seems you advocate this behaviour. I think that explains why we have a problem in this country. For me it's easy. I'm a dual citizen. I'm here because of my job. But come retirement I'm out of here.

Yes there are worse places, no argument there. But what depresses me about the UK is that there is no reason for us to behave like this. In other parts of the world, you can perhaps put a reason on why things are the way they are. In the UK we have it good. So no excuse for this behaviour.

And please do not blame this on the government. Our values and behaviours are our responsibility.
Could not agree more, I simply do not understand those who live in the U.K anymore, people get attacked on a regular bases just walking along the street, knuckle draggers are everywhere with their dogs, that go and attack other dogs including guide dogs, I read three guide dogs are attacked per day on average. I moved away seven years ago, the house door for the back garden is left open all day and night if the dogs want to pop out, no one in our village has been the victim of theft, no one gets attacked, even the cars are left unlocked at night. I live in a Swiss town, I was the victim of theft, by a close relative in Soton who looted my mothers estate prior to and after her death. over here if you are not native swiss and commit a crime you serve your sentence and then you and your family are kicked out,so if 19 year old paul steals anything and the police catch him, all the family, mum, dad, sister etc are kicked out.
[quote][p][bold]manic75[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Huffter[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]manic75[/bold] wrote: Stories like this really depress me. Where has respect for one another gone? I do sometimes question why I live here... such a depressing God-foresaken place, especially when I read stories like this. Last week there was the story of the dog abandoned in someone's garden after being injured in an organised fight. Then we have had the stories of young babies killed by idiot owners who leave them with their pet dogs. Idiot is too polite a word to describe them. I have travelled extensively; there are far nicer people in far prettier places and I wish I lived elsewhere. The attitudes and behaviour we have today (in the main) are not the same, respectful attitudes we had in earlier times. This is a generalization I know, but its a trend. Hate to think what this country will be like in 20 years time.[/p][/quote]Move[/p][/quote]Seems you advocate this behaviour. I think that explains why we have a problem in this country. For me it's easy. I'm a dual citizen. I'm here because of my job. But come retirement I'm out of here. Yes there are worse places, no argument there. But what depresses me about the UK is that there is no reason for us to behave like this. In other parts of the world, you can perhaps put a reason on why things are the way they are. In the UK we have it good. So no excuse for this behaviour. And please do not blame this on the government. Our values and behaviours are our responsibility.[/p][/quote]Could not agree more, I simply do not understand those who live in the U.K anymore, people get attacked on a regular bases just walking along the street, knuckle draggers are everywhere with their dogs, that go and attack other dogs including guide dogs, I read three guide dogs are attacked per day on average. I moved away seven years ago, the house door for the back garden is left open all day and night if the dogs want to pop out, no one in our village has been the victim of theft, no one gets attacked, even the cars are left unlocked at night. I live in a Swiss town, I was the victim of theft, by a close relative in Soton who looted my mothers estate prior to and after her death. over here if you are not native swiss and commit a crime you serve your sentence and then you and your family are kicked out,so if 19 year old paul steals anything and the police catch him, all the family, mum, dad, sister etc are kicked out. mike coll
  • Score: 2

10:13am Tue 25 Feb 14

Niel says...

Spanner2071 wrote:
Inconsiderate weekend bikers on the A272?
Surely not!
I met a London Advanced rider trainer at Loomies (A272/A32 cross-roads) on Sunday, at the end of a local Advanced Training ride, he'd tried to get there from Winchester, apart from the road closed signs right on the edge of the village ALL the other diversion and advanced road closed signs that should have been in place were missing. Metal signs are worth stealing for their scrap value, in Ireland to prevent the problem they use corrugated plastic for 'temporary' signs and attach them to other fixed road side furniture... Something to consider here perhaps?
[quote][p][bold]Spanner2071[/bold] wrote: Inconsiderate weekend bikers on the A272? Surely not![/p][/quote]I met a London Advanced rider trainer at Loomies (A272/A32 cross-roads) on Sunday, at the end of a local Advanced Training ride, he'd tried to get there from Winchester, apart from the road closed signs right on the edge of the village ALL the other diversion and advanced road closed signs that should have been in place were missing. Metal signs are worth stealing for their scrap value, in Ireland to prevent the problem they use corrugated plastic for 'temporary' signs and attach them to other fixed road side furniture... Something to consider here perhaps? Niel
  • Score: 1

10:32am Tue 25 Feb 14

BenLovesCassie says...

Look at the picture.
The resident has clearly blocked the way of the motorcycle and is arm waving/pointing, leaning forwards, probably shouting.

The motorcycle seems to have a kid on the back as pillion.
I doubt the motorcycle rider just threw a punch for no reason.

provocation/self defense.

As for the bow wave - 8ft would have swept the residents off their feet and broken them...yet no injuries are reported.
Look at the picture. The resident has clearly blocked the way of the motorcycle and is arm waving/pointing, leaning forwards, probably shouting. The motorcycle seems to have a kid on the back as pillion. I doubt the motorcycle rider just threw a punch for no reason. provocation/self defense. As for the bow wave - 8ft would have swept the residents off their feet and broken them...yet no injuries are reported. BenLovesCassie
  • Score: 1

10:57am Tue 25 Feb 14

Torchie1 says...

BenLovesCassie wrote:
Look at the picture.
The resident has clearly blocked the way of the motorcycle and is arm waving/pointing, leaning forwards, probably shouting.

The motorcycle seems to have a kid on the back as pillion.
I doubt the motorcycle rider just threw a punch for no reason.

provocation/self defense.

As for the bow wave - 8ft would have swept the residents off their feet and broken them...yet no injuries are reported.
You don't think that the resident was pointing out to the motorcyclist that had ridden past the Road Closed sign that the road was shut?
[quote][p][bold]BenLovesCassie[/bold] wrote: Look at the picture. The resident has clearly blocked the way of the motorcycle and is arm waving/pointing, leaning forwards, probably shouting. The motorcycle seems to have a kid on the back as pillion. I doubt the motorcycle rider just threw a punch for no reason. provocation/self defense. As for the bow wave - 8ft would have swept the residents off their feet and broken them...yet no injuries are reported.[/p][/quote]You don't think that the resident was pointing out to the motorcyclist that had ridden past the Road Closed sign that the road was shut? Torchie1
  • Score: 0

11:21am Tue 25 Feb 14

Spanner2071 says...

Niel wrote:
Spanner2071 wrote:
Inconsiderate weekend bikers on the A272?
Surely not!
I met a London Advanced rider trainer at Loomies (A272/A32 cross-roads) on Sunday, at the end of a local Advanced Training ride, he'd tried to get there from Winchester, apart from the road closed signs right on the edge of the village ALL the other diversion and advanced road closed signs that should have been in place were missing. Metal signs are worth stealing for their scrap value, in Ireland to prevent the problem they use corrugated plastic for 'temporary' signs and attach them to other fixed road side furniture... Something to consider here perhaps?
Without being rude, when I drove from Winchester at lunchtime on Sunday there were still signs (as there has always been) at Winchester, Cheriton and Bramdean. There is no excuse for a motorbike not to turn around when confronted by bollards, pedestrians, a big red sign with capital letters saying Road Closed and a lake! I'll admit, that if a lorry driver decides to ignore all these signs then it's a bit tricky to do a 3 point turn but a motorbike?
[quote][p][bold]Niel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Spanner2071[/bold] wrote: Inconsiderate weekend bikers on the A272? Surely not![/p][/quote]I met a London Advanced rider trainer at Loomies (A272/A32 cross-roads) on Sunday, at the end of a local Advanced Training ride, he'd tried to get there from Winchester, apart from the road closed signs right on the edge of the village ALL the other diversion and advanced road closed signs that should have been in place were missing. Metal signs are worth stealing for their scrap value, in Ireland to prevent the problem they use corrugated plastic for 'temporary' signs and attach them to other fixed road side furniture... Something to consider here perhaps?[/p][/quote]Without being rude, when I drove from Winchester at lunchtime on Sunday there were still signs (as there has always been) at Winchester, Cheriton and Bramdean. There is no excuse for a motorbike not to turn around when confronted by bollards, pedestrians, a big red sign with capital letters saying Road Closed and a lake! I'll admit, that if a lorry driver decides to ignore all these signs then it's a bit tricky to do a 3 point turn but a motorbike? Spanner2071
  • Score: 0

11:45am Tue 25 Feb 14

Tone says...

Nothing a few underwater concrete blocks wouldn't have sorted out!
Nothing a few underwater concrete blocks wouldn't have sorted out! Tone
  • Score: 2

12:39pm Tue 25 Feb 14

HantsConcern says...

Niel wrote:
Spanner2071 wrote:
Inconsiderate weekend bikers on the A272?
Surely not!
I met a London Advanced rider trainer at Loomies (A272/A32 cross-roads) on Sunday, at the end of a local Advanced Training ride, he'd tried to get there from Winchester, apart from the road closed signs right on the edge of the village ALL the other diversion and advanced road closed signs that should have been in place were missing. Metal signs are worth stealing for their scrap value, in Ireland to prevent the problem they use corrugated plastic for 'temporary' signs and attach them to other fixed road side furniture... Something to consider here perhaps?
In the foreground I think one can plainly see the back of a Road Closed sign, the gentleman merely pointing this out - it appears that the passenger is reading the sign, maybe 'she?' could teach her 'Dad?' to read?
[quote][p][bold]Niel[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Spanner2071[/bold] wrote: Inconsiderate weekend bikers on the A272? Surely not![/p][/quote]I met a London Advanced rider trainer at Loomies (A272/A32 cross-roads) on Sunday, at the end of a local Advanced Training ride, he'd tried to get there from Winchester, apart from the road closed signs right on the edge of the village ALL the other diversion and advanced road closed signs that should have been in place were missing. Metal signs are worth stealing for their scrap value, in Ireland to prevent the problem they use corrugated plastic for 'temporary' signs and attach them to other fixed road side furniture... Something to consider here perhaps?[/p][/quote]In the foreground I think one can plainly see the back of a Road Closed sign, the gentleman merely pointing this out - it appears that the passenger is reading the sign, maybe 'she?' could teach her 'Dad?' to read? HantsConcern
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