Many voters in Southampton and Hampshire still undecided ahead of local elections

Voters' decisions still up for grabs

Voters' decisions still up for grabs

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IT’S all to play for.

A mass poll conducted by the Daily Echo shows that with the local elections just days away, many residents in Hampshire still haven’t made up their minds about who to vote for.

And the survey, carried out in four areas of the county over the past week, also shows that UKIP are enjoying a surge in popularity ahead of Thursday’s elections.

Residents in Southampton, Eastleigh, Winchester and Fareham will all elect councillors, while European elections are also taking place on the same day.

We spoke to 1,000 people, spread across all four authorities, to see how they were voting.

Just over a tenth of people asked were not even aware that elections were taking place, but 691 of those asked said they would be voting, while 73 said they were undecided.

However there is likely to be a low turnout this week, with the last city council elections in Southampton in 2012 producing a turnout of 30.5 per cent and Eastleigh returning one of 35.46 per cent.

Our poll results also show that many votes are still there to be fought for, with 161 of the 691 people saying they will definitely vote yet to make up their mind.

Across the four councils, UKIP came second only to the Conservatives in terms of who residents say they will vote for, with 126 people saying they would choose the party.

Breaking it down for each authority, they came second to Labour in Southampton and the Liberal Democrats in Eastleigh.

Many voters told the Daily Echo they would vote for UKIP council candidates because of the UK’s place in Europe, and the impact of immigration.

And one senior Labour councillor in Southampton told the Echo: “A lot of people are telling us they are considering voting for UKIP over us and the other parties because of Europe.

“It’s not really fair, because as a council we can’t affect the UK’s place in the EU.”

Two years after seizing control of the city council in Southampton and in spite of passing unpopular service cuts, our poll shows the party has retained support among some residents.

Of the 400 people polled in the city, 62 said they would be voting Labour, in comparison to 52 for UKIP and 48 for the Conservatives, who Labour replaced.

The Liberal Democrats topped our poll in Eastleigh, where the party has been in power since 1994.

Of the 200 people asked, 36 said they would choose the Lib Dems, while 33 picked UKIP in a town which has been targeted by the Eurosceptic party in recent years.

The balance of power is finely poised in Winchester, with both the minority Conservative administration and Lib Dems having 27 seats.

And with ten Conservative seats and nine Lib Dem wards up for grabs at the election, the contest is too close to call.

That is borne out in our poll, which shows that 35 of 200 people asked in the city would currently choose the Tories as opposed to 29 for the Lib Dems, while 45 residents are still undecided.

The picture is more clear cut in Fareham, where the Conservatives currently have 23 seats to the Liberal Democrats’ six and Independents’ two.

That status quo looks unlikely to change according to our poll, in which 67 of the 200 people questioned said they would vote Tory, more than 40 votes ahead of the Lib Dems in second.

Dr Mark Farwell, a senior lecturer in political sociology at Southampton Solent University, said: “There is a precedent of people in Britain voting on a split ticket, one party for European elections and another for local elections.

“UKIP is strong in Europe but doesn’t have a track record in local government, but I’m not surprised they polled well on local elections as their platformissue, immigration, is highly emotive.

“And especially in the south-east, in places like Southampton, when people are dealing with austerity and immigration links in to issues such as the strain on local services, you can see their appeal starts to snowball.”

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1:31pm Mon 19 May 14

IronLady2010 says...

Just be sure to make the effort to vote. Even if you couldn't care less, still pick the one you like best. It's one of the few rights we have, make the most and have your say.

Good luck to all.
Just be sure to make the effort to vote. Even if you couldn't care less, still pick the one you like best. It's one of the few rights we have, make the most and have your say. Good luck to all. IronLady2010
  • Score: 19

1:41pm Mon 19 May 14

southy says...

Shame they never ask over here in the west of the city it would show a different out look. over on the eastern side the Tory's are losing votes to Ukip and on the western side Labour is losing vote to TUSC
Shame they never ask over here in the west of the city it would show a different out look. over on the eastern side the Tory's are losing votes to Ukip and on the western side Labour is losing vote to TUSC southy
  • Score: -17

1:43pm Mon 19 May 14

IronLady2010 says...

southy wrote:
Shame they never ask over here in the west of the city it would show a different out look. over on the eastern side the Tory's are losing votes to Ukip and on the western side Labour is losing vote to TUSC
Can we see your survey results as proof of that statement?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Shame they never ask over here in the west of the city it would show a different out look. over on the eastern side the Tory's are losing votes to Ukip and on the western side Labour is losing vote to TUSC[/p][/quote]Can we see your survey results as proof of that statement? IronLady2010
  • Score: 13

2:07pm Mon 19 May 14

one in a million says...

Anyone but the Fibdems in Eastleigh!!
Anyone but the Fibdems in Eastleigh!! one in a million
  • Score: 5

2:43pm Mon 19 May 14

stay local says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
Shame they never ask over here in the west of the city it would show a different out look. over on the eastern side the Tory's are losing votes to Ukip and on the western side Labour is losing vote to TUSC
Can we see your survey results as proof of that statement?
Could it be that the TUSC have got rid of the bumbling failure that stood in Redbridge last time? He must have cost them votes.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Shame they never ask over here in the west of the city it would show a different out look. over on the eastern side the Tory's are losing votes to Ukip and on the western side Labour is losing vote to TUSC[/p][/quote]Can we see your survey results as proof of that statement?[/p][/quote]Could it be that the TUSC have got rid of the bumbling failure that stood in Redbridge last time? He must have cost them votes. stay local
  • Score: 0

2:51pm Mon 19 May 14

Torchie1 says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
Shame they never ask over here in the west of the city it would show a different out look. over on the eastern side the Tory's are losing votes to Ukip and on the western side Labour is losing vote to TUSC
Can we see your survey results as proof of that statement?
An independent survey will be carried out on May 22nd but I'm not confident that certain losers will accept the outcome.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Shame they never ask over here in the west of the city it would show a different out look. over on the eastern side the Tory's are losing votes to Ukip and on the western side Labour is losing vote to TUSC[/p][/quote]Can we see your survey results as proof of that statement?[/p][/quote]An independent survey will be carried out on May 22nd but I'm not confident that certain losers will accept the outcome. Torchie1
  • Score: 1

2:57pm Mon 19 May 14

Missdoyle says...

We should all.do a vote of no.confidence
We should all.do a vote of no.confidence Missdoyle
  • Score: -3

3:07pm Mon 19 May 14

IronLady2010 says...

Missdoyle wrote:
We should all.do a vote of no.confidence
What would that achieve?
[quote][p][bold]Missdoyle[/bold] wrote: We should all.do a vote of no.confidence[/p][/quote]What would that achieve? IronLady2010
  • Score: 3

3:19pm Mon 19 May 14

IronLady2010 says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
Missdoyle wrote:
We should all.do a vote of no.confidence
What would that achieve?
Is it that you have no confidence in anyone to run the Council? Maybe you'd rather we didn't elect someone and we end up with a dictatorship run Council?

The past few years have proved one thing, the current Council has been a shambles, the leader went and so did Councillors due to a few porky pies.

I've said before Royston is no angel, but he was honest with the electorate. He may have stood on some toes, but at least it was all in the open.

I don't believe in trying to persuade people to make a choice, i'd rather everyone make their own mind up.

I just feel everyone should use their right to vote and remember what has happened over the past few years.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Missdoyle[/bold] wrote: We should all.do a vote of no.confidence[/p][/quote]What would that achieve?[/p][/quote]Is it that you have no confidence in anyone to run the Council? Maybe you'd rather we didn't elect someone and we end up with a dictatorship run Council? The past few years have proved one thing, the current Council has been a shambles, the leader went and so did Councillors due to a few porky pies. I've said before Royston is no angel, but he was honest with the electorate. He may have stood on some toes, but at least it was all in the open. I don't believe in trying to persuade people to make a choice, i'd rather everyone make their own mind up. I just feel everyone should use their right to vote and remember what has happened over the past few years. IronLady2010
  • Score: 7

3:24pm Mon 19 May 14

George4th says...

Given that the coalition has been steering us out of the monumental disaster created by Labour and the fact that we now have growth, more people employed and better prospects for the future, it may be time to acknowledge this with your vote?

Ask yourself, what has, or can , UKIP do for you?!

Ask yourself, what has, or can, Labour do for you?!

The answer on both cases is unprintable!
Given that the coalition has been steering us out of the monumental disaster created by Labour and the fact that we now have growth, more people employed and better prospects for the future, it may be time to acknowledge this with your vote? Ask yourself, what has, or can , UKIP do for you?! Ask yourself, what has, or can, Labour do for you?! The answer on both cases is unprintable! George4th
  • Score: -3

3:51pm Mon 19 May 14

townieboy says...

I urge all in BARGATE WARD to vote out the LABOUR COIUCILLORS. They are doing nothing in our ward, just taking money and not acting on any issues in Golden Grove and surrounding areas. UKIP will do for me this time around they can do NO worse than others who do nothing.
I urge all in BARGATE WARD to vote out the LABOUR COIUCILLORS. They are doing nothing in our ward, just taking money and not acting on any issues in Golden Grove and surrounding areas. UKIP will do for me this time around they can do NO worse than others who do nothing. townieboy
  • Score: 4

3:58pm Mon 19 May 14

IronLady2010 says...

townieboy wrote:
I urge all in BARGATE WARD to vote out the LABOUR COIUCILLORS. They are doing nothing in our ward, just taking money and not acting on any issues in Golden Grove and surrounding areas. UKIP will do for me this time around they can do NO worse than others who do nothing.
I would rather people took the time to look at the past, read what each party is saying and make a choice from there.

It's great you are voting UKIP, but trying to persuade others to vote for them without telling us what they can do isn't right.

People need to research, we are often fast to complain when things aren't going well, but we do have the right to vote.

I would guess most people who moan about the Council never vote.
[quote][p][bold]townieboy[/bold] wrote: I urge all in BARGATE WARD to vote out the LABOUR COIUCILLORS. They are doing nothing in our ward, just taking money and not acting on any issues in Golden Grove and surrounding areas. UKIP will do for me this time around they can do NO worse than others who do nothing.[/p][/quote]I would rather people took the time to look at the past, read what each party is saying and make a choice from there. It's great you are voting UKIP, but trying to persuade others to vote for them without telling us what they can do isn't right. People need to research, we are often fast to complain when things aren't going well, but we do have the right to vote. I would guess most people who moan about the Council never vote. IronLady2010
  • Score: -3

4:09pm Mon 19 May 14

Block41row0sfc says...

George4th wrote:
Given that the coalition has been steering us out of the monumental disaster created by Labour and the fact that we now have growth, more people employed and better prospects for the future, it may be time to acknowledge this with your vote?

Ask yourself, what has, or can , UKIP do for you?!

Ask yourself, what has, or can, Labour do for you?!

The answer on both cases is unprintable!
English democrats
[quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: Given that the coalition has been steering us out of the monumental disaster created by Labour and the fact that we now have growth, more people employed and better prospects for the future, it may be time to acknowledge this with your vote? Ask yourself, what has, or can , UKIP do for you?! Ask yourself, what has, or can, Labour do for you?! The answer on both cases is unprintable![/p][/quote]English democrats Block41row0sfc
  • Score: -1

4:13pm Mon 19 May 14

lisa whitemore says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Missdoyle wrote:
We should all.do a vote of no.confidence
What would that achieve?
Is it that you have no confidence in anyone to run the Council? Maybe you'd rather we didn't elect someone and we end up with a dictatorship run Council?

The past few years have proved one thing, the current Council has been a shambles, the leader went and so did Councillors due to a few porky pies.

I've said before Royston is no angel, but he was honest with the electorate. He may have stood on some toes, but at least it was all in the open.

I don't believe in trying to persuade people to make a choice, i'd rather everyone make their own mind up.

I just feel everyone should use their right to vote and remember what has happened over the past few years.
Quite Agree Iron Lady, after the complete shambles and dishonesty from Labour, not to mention Asa Thorpe & Wife labelling us Cretins,Inbreds and Bigots I certainly will NOT be voting them. They lost my whole families votes due to the disgusting way they treated my dad after 42 years excellent service he gave to the Bereaved Families of Southampton. I Also know alot of my campaign supporters won't be either and there were over 3,000 supporters.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Missdoyle[/bold] wrote: We should all.do a vote of no.confidence[/p][/quote]What would that achieve?[/p][/quote]Is it that you have no confidence in anyone to run the Council? Maybe you'd rather we didn't elect someone and we end up with a dictatorship run Council? The past few years have proved one thing, the current Council has been a shambles, the leader went and so did Councillors due to a few porky pies. I've said before Royston is no angel, but he was honest with the electorate. He may have stood on some toes, but at least it was all in the open. I don't believe in trying to persuade people to make a choice, i'd rather everyone make their own mind up. I just feel everyone should use their right to vote and remember what has happened over the past few years.[/p][/quote]Quite Agree Iron Lady, after the complete shambles and dishonesty from Labour, not to mention Asa Thorpe & Wife labelling us Cretins,Inbreds and Bigots I certainly will NOT be voting them. They lost my whole families votes due to the disgusting way they treated my dad after 42 years excellent service he gave to the Bereaved Families of Southampton. I Also know alot of my campaign supporters won't be either and there were over 3,000 supporters. lisa whitemore
  • Score: 3

4:32pm Mon 19 May 14

Lone Ranger. says...

Torchie1 wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
Shame they never ask over here in the west of the city it would show a different out look. over on the eastern side the Tory's are losing votes to Ukip and on the western side Labour is losing vote to TUSC
Can we see your survey results as proof of that statement?
An independent survey will be carried out on May 22nd but I'm not confident that certain losers will accept the outcome.
No you are quite right ...... the local Tory supporters were vile two years ago yet they were the ones preaching about democracy
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Shame they never ask over here in the west of the city it would show a different out look. over on the eastern side the Tory's are losing votes to Ukip and on the western side Labour is losing vote to TUSC[/p][/quote]Can we see your survey results as proof of that statement?[/p][/quote]An independent survey will be carried out on May 22nd but I'm not confident that certain losers will accept the outcome.[/p][/quote]No you are quite right ...... the local Tory supporters were vile two years ago yet they were the ones preaching about democracy Lone Ranger.
  • Score: -3

4:34pm Mon 19 May 14

elvisimo says...

townieboy wrote:
I urge all in BARGATE WARD to vote out the LABOUR COIUCILLORS. They are doing nothing in our ward, just taking money and not acting on any issues in Golden Grove and surrounding areas. UKIP will do for me this time around they can do NO worse than others who do nothing.
suggest you read up on a few of their policies - pretty scary stuff.....
[quote][p][bold]townieboy[/bold] wrote: I urge all in BARGATE WARD to vote out the LABOUR COIUCILLORS. They are doing nothing in our ward, just taking money and not acting on any issues in Golden Grove and surrounding areas. UKIP will do for me this time around they can do NO worse than others who do nothing.[/p][/quote]suggest you read up on a few of their policies - pretty scary stuff..... elvisimo
  • Score: 1

4:35pm Mon 19 May 14

Lone Ranger. says...

lisa whitemore wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Missdoyle wrote:
We should all.do a vote of no.confidence
What would that achieve?
Is it that you have no confidence in anyone to run the Council? Maybe you'd rather we didn't elect someone and we end up with a dictatorship run Council?

The past few years have proved one thing, the current Council has been a shambles, the leader went and so did Councillors due to a few porky pies.

I've said before Royston is no angel, but he was honest with the electorate. He may have stood on some toes, but at least it was all in the open.

I don't believe in trying to persuade people to make a choice, i'd rather everyone make their own mind up.

I just feel everyone should use their right to vote and remember what has happened over the past few years.
Quite Agree Iron Lady, after the complete shambles and dishonesty from Labour, not to mention Asa Thorpe & Wife labelling us Cretins,Inbreds and Bigots I certainly will NOT be voting them. They lost my whole families votes due to the disgusting way they treated my dad after 42 years excellent service he gave to the Bereaved Families of Southampton. I Also know alot of my campaign supporters won't be either and there were over 3,000 supporters.
Didnt you say that eveyone's entitled to their opinion ?
.
Or is it if they only agree with yours !!
[quote][p][bold]lisa whitemore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Missdoyle[/bold] wrote: We should all.do a vote of no.confidence[/p][/quote]What would that achieve?[/p][/quote]Is it that you have no confidence in anyone to run the Council? Maybe you'd rather we didn't elect someone and we end up with a dictatorship run Council? The past few years have proved one thing, the current Council has been a shambles, the leader went and so did Councillors due to a few porky pies. I've said before Royston is no angel, but he was honest with the electorate. He may have stood on some toes, but at least it was all in the open. I don't believe in trying to persuade people to make a choice, i'd rather everyone make their own mind up. I just feel everyone should use their right to vote and remember what has happened over the past few years.[/p][/quote]Quite Agree Iron Lady, after the complete shambles and dishonesty from Labour, not to mention Asa Thorpe & Wife labelling us Cretins,Inbreds and Bigots I certainly will NOT be voting them. They lost my whole families votes due to the disgusting way they treated my dad after 42 years excellent service he gave to the Bereaved Families of Southampton. I Also know alot of my campaign supporters won't be either and there were over 3,000 supporters.[/p][/quote]Didnt you say that eveyone's entitled to their opinion ? . Or is it if they only agree with yours !! Lone Ranger.
  • Score: -1

4:46pm Mon 19 May 14

southy says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
Shame they never ask over here in the west of the city it would show a different out look. over on the eastern side the Tory's are losing votes to Ukip and on the western side Labour is losing vote to TUSC
Can we see your survey results as proof of that statement?
You don't need surveys to know what is going on, like up in Coxford the people have not really decided yet, But you would not under stand what is going on, to know that you would need to be born and live here
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Shame they never ask over here in the west of the city it would show a different out look. over on the eastern side the Tory's are losing votes to Ukip and on the western side Labour is losing vote to TUSC[/p][/quote]Can we see your survey results as proof of that statement?[/p][/quote]You don't need surveys to know what is going on, like up in Coxford the people have not really decided yet, But you would not under stand what is going on, to know that you would need to be born and live here southy
  • Score: -3

4:50pm Mon 19 May 14

Paramjit Bahia says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
townieboy wrote:
I urge all in BARGATE WARD to vote out the LABOUR COIUCILLORS. They are doing nothing in our ward, just taking money and not acting on any issues in Golden Grove and surrounding areas. UKIP will do for me this time around they can do NO worse than others who do nothing.
I would rather people took the time to look at the past, read what each party is saying and make a choice from there.

It's great you are voting UKIP, but trying to persuade others to vote for them without telling us what they can do isn't right.

People need to research, we are often fast to complain when things aren't going well, but we do have the right to vote.

I would guess most people who moan about the Council never vote.
Having dealt with cases of people in the past I can confirm that your last sentence is fairly accurate.

Yes I agree with you that for the sake of saving our democracy people must vote, otherwise gates will open for undesirables.

If you don't approve of any candidates write None of these on the ballot paper. Pity they do not provide that choice as standrad practice.

I know who I will vote for Council election it will be for re-electing Cllr. Keith Morrell, hope others in Coxford will as well, but must respect the democratic rights of others to decide for themselves.

For European election? I was always been against the EEC that became EU and is heading towards becoming USE (United States of Europe) but certainly will not be voting for UKIP whose MEPs kept on pocketing high salaries and allowances but hardly ever turned up to vote, in toothless European Parliament. Will it be Greens or some Socialists, who at least had sent me their manifesto, not once but twice, which in fact says absolutely nothing about either EU or even Europe????? Or may be None of These.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]townieboy[/bold] wrote: I urge all in BARGATE WARD to vote out the LABOUR COIUCILLORS. They are doing nothing in our ward, just taking money and not acting on any issues in Golden Grove and surrounding areas. UKIP will do for me this time around they can do NO worse than others who do nothing.[/p][/quote]I would rather people took the time to look at the past, read what each party is saying and make a choice from there. It's great you are voting UKIP, but trying to persuade others to vote for them without telling us what they can do isn't right. People need to research, we are often fast to complain when things aren't going well, but we do have the right to vote. I would guess most people who moan about the Council never vote.[/p][/quote]Having dealt with cases of people in the past I can confirm that your last sentence is fairly accurate. Yes I agree with you that for the sake of saving our democracy people must vote, otherwise gates will open for undesirables. If you don't approve of any candidates write None of these on the ballot paper. Pity they do not provide that choice as standrad practice. I know who I will vote for Council election it will be for re-electing Cllr. Keith Morrell, hope others in Coxford will as well, but must respect the democratic rights of others to decide for themselves. For European election? I was always been against the EEC that became EU and is heading towards becoming USE (United States of Europe) but certainly will not be voting for UKIP whose MEPs kept on pocketing high salaries and allowances but hardly ever turned up to vote, in toothless European Parliament. Will it be Greens or some Socialists, who at least had sent me their manifesto, not once but twice, which in fact says absolutely nothing about either EU or even Europe????? Or may be None of These. Paramjit Bahia
  • Score: -1

4:53pm Mon 19 May 14

Paramjit Bahia says...

George4th wrote:
Given that the coalition has been steering us out of the monumental disaster created by Labour and the fact that we now have growth, more people employed and better prospects for the future, it may be time to acknowledge this with your vote?

Ask yourself, what has, or can , UKIP do for you?!

Ask yourself, what has, or can, Labour do for you?!

The answer on both cases is unprintable!
Go on be brave and post your honestly held view!!!
[quote][p][bold]George4th[/bold] wrote: Given that the coalition has been steering us out of the monumental disaster created by Labour and the fact that we now have growth, more people employed and better prospects for the future, it may be time to acknowledge this with your vote? Ask yourself, what has, or can , UKIP do for you?! Ask yourself, what has, or can, Labour do for you?! The answer on both cases is unprintable![/p][/quote]Go on be brave and post your honestly held view!!! Paramjit Bahia
  • Score: -3

4:58pm Mon 19 May 14

Paramjit Bahia says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
Shame they never ask over here in the west of the city it would show a different out look. over on the eastern side the Tory's are losing votes to Ukip and on the western side Labour is losing vote to TUSC
Can we see your survey results as proof of that statement?
An independent survey will be carried out on May 22nd but I'm not confident that certain losers will accept the outcome.
No you are quite right ...... the local Tory supporters were vile two years ago yet they were the ones preaching about democracy
Lone Ranger, I hate you, you beat me to it.

Yes I too remember bad losers kept on moaning after those elections for week after week.
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Shame they never ask over here in the west of the city it would show a different out look. over on the eastern side the Tory's are losing votes to Ukip and on the western side Labour is losing vote to TUSC[/p][/quote]Can we see your survey results as proof of that statement?[/p][/quote]An independent survey will be carried out on May 22nd but I'm not confident that certain losers will accept the outcome.[/p][/quote]No you are quite right ...... the local Tory supporters were vile two years ago yet they were the ones preaching about democracy[/p][/quote]Lone Ranger, I hate you, you beat me to it. Yes I too remember bad losers kept on moaning after those elections for week after week. Paramjit Bahia
  • Score: -4

5:05pm Mon 19 May 14

Lone Ranger. says...

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
Shame they never ask over here in the west of the city it would show a different out look. over on the eastern side the Tory's are losing votes to Ukip and on the western side Labour is losing vote to TUSC
Can we see your survey results as proof of that statement?
An independent survey will be carried out on May 22nd but I'm not confident that certain losers will accept the outcome.
No you are quite right ...... the local Tory supporters were vile two years ago yet they were the ones preaching about democracy
Lone Ranger, I hate you, you beat me to it.

Yes I too remember bad losers kept on moaning after those elections for week after week.
Sorry Paramjit ...... It was just an open goal !!
.
Looks like some of the Tory posters are still moaning ....... My word what short memories they have
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Shame they never ask over here in the west of the city it would show a different out look. over on the eastern side the Tory's are losing votes to Ukip and on the western side Labour is losing vote to TUSC[/p][/quote]Can we see your survey results as proof of that statement?[/p][/quote]An independent survey will be carried out on May 22nd but I'm not confident that certain losers will accept the outcome.[/p][/quote]No you are quite right ...... the local Tory supporters were vile two years ago yet they were the ones preaching about democracy[/p][/quote]Lone Ranger, I hate you, you beat me to it. Yes I too remember bad losers kept on moaning after those elections for week after week.[/p][/quote]Sorry Paramjit ...... It was just an open goal !! . Looks like some of the Tory posters are still moaning ....... My word what short memories they have Lone Ranger.
  • Score: -4

5:41pm Mon 19 May 14

allsaintsnocurves says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
Shame they never ask over here in the west of the city it would show a different out look. over on the eastern side the Tory's are losing votes to Ukip and on the western side Labour is losing vote to TUSC
Can we see your survey results as proof of that statement?
Southy has a history of making statements based on zero facts so take it or leave it. UKIP will do well in the European elections but if you have strong views on immigration then there are better anti European parties to vote for. As for the local elections Labour are ruining the city centre so would take any alternative to them.
The Lib Dems in Eastleigh and the Tory's in Fareham are doing a much better job in those constituencies in my view. I have a strong desire to move out of the centre at the moment.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Shame they never ask over here in the west of the city it would show a different out look. over on the eastern side the Tory's are losing votes to Ukip and on the western side Labour is losing vote to TUSC[/p][/quote]Can we see your survey results as proof of that statement?[/p][/quote]Southy has a history of making statements based on zero facts so take it or leave it. UKIP will do well in the European elections but if you have strong views on immigration then there are better anti European parties to vote for. As for the local elections Labour are ruining the city centre so would take any alternative to them. The Lib Dems in Eastleigh and the Tory's in Fareham are doing a much better job in those constituencies in my view. I have a strong desire to move out of the centre at the moment. allsaintsnocurves
  • Score: 2

5:48pm Mon 19 May 14

Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-Graham says...

We're sick to death of being colonised and having a "government" taking its orders from Tel Aviv, Brussels and Washington - Vote UKIP, you know it makes sense.

That is all!
We're sick to death of being colonised and having a "government" taking its orders from Tel Aviv, Brussels and Washington - Vote UKIP, you know it makes sense. That is all! Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-Graham
  • Score: -7

5:56pm Mon 19 May 14

bigfella777 says...

Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G
raham
wrote:
We're sick to death of being colonised and having a "government" taking its orders from Tel Aviv, Brussels and Washington - Vote UKIP, you know it makes sense.

That is all!
It doesn't make any sense at all unless you are insane
[quote][p][bold]Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham[/bold] wrote: We're sick to death of being colonised and having a "government" taking its orders from Tel Aviv, Brussels and Washington - Vote UKIP, you know it makes sense. That is all![/p][/quote]It doesn't make any sense at all unless you are insane bigfella777
  • Score: -2

6:33pm Mon 19 May 14

southy says...

lisa whitemore wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Missdoyle wrote:
We should all.do a vote of no.confidence
What would that achieve?
Is it that you have no confidence in anyone to run the Council? Maybe you'd rather we didn't elect someone and we end up with a dictatorship run Council?

The past few years have proved one thing, the current Council has been a shambles, the leader went and so did Councillors due to a few porky pies.

I've said before Royston is no angel, but he was honest with the electorate. He may have stood on some toes, but at least it was all in the open.

I don't believe in trying to persuade people to make a choice, i'd rather everyone make their own mind up.

I just feel everyone should use their right to vote and remember what has happened over the past few years.
Quite Agree Iron Lady, after the complete shambles and dishonesty from Labour, not to mention Asa Thorpe & Wife labelling us Cretins,Inbreds and Bigots I certainly will NOT be voting them. They lost my whole families votes due to the disgusting way they treated my dad after 42 years excellent service he gave to the Bereaved Families of Southampton. I Also know alot of my campaign supporters won't be either and there were over 3,000 supporters.
This is what Labour as done to it self, IronLady, It was only the TUSC, SP, SWP that help out where they could for Lisa Whitemore and it was noted at the time who the political groups was.
Last local elections Labour had to get the Unions out in the Redbridge ward to go round all its members in the ward to make sure they don't vote for the TUSC many was going to, that to came down to on the day.#
To many people still remember what the Tory,s done still its not been forgotten like George4th hopes it as been.
Labour still worried in the Redbridge ward as well as in Coxford ward and its going to be down to the Union Votes, will Union members will they deify its area Exe and give the Labour party some thing to remember about or will they do as they are told again and vote Labour, also will Lisa Whitemore contact all of its supporters and ask them to vote TUSC, and there are other campaigns thats happened over the last few years.
Last local election Labour only had Redbridge ward to worry about, now this year they have Coxford also and next year how many more wards will they need to worry about.
[quote][p][bold]lisa whitemore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Missdoyle[/bold] wrote: We should all.do a vote of no.confidence[/p][/quote]What would that achieve?[/p][/quote]Is it that you have no confidence in anyone to run the Council? Maybe you'd rather we didn't elect someone and we end up with a dictatorship run Council? The past few years have proved one thing, the current Council has been a shambles, the leader went and so did Councillors due to a few porky pies. I've said before Royston is no angel, but he was honest with the electorate. He may have stood on some toes, but at least it was all in the open. I don't believe in trying to persuade people to make a choice, i'd rather everyone make their own mind up. I just feel everyone should use their right to vote and remember what has happened over the past few years.[/p][/quote]Quite Agree Iron Lady, after the complete shambles and dishonesty from Labour, not to mention Asa Thorpe & Wife labelling us Cretins,Inbreds and Bigots I certainly will NOT be voting them. They lost my whole families votes due to the disgusting way they treated my dad after 42 years excellent service he gave to the Bereaved Families of Southampton. I Also know alot of my campaign supporters won't be either and there were over 3,000 supporters.[/p][/quote]This is what Labour as done to it self, IronLady, It was only the TUSC, SP, SWP that help out where they could for Lisa Whitemore and it was noted at the time who the political groups was. Last local elections Labour had to get the Unions out in the Redbridge ward to go round all its members in the ward to make sure they don't vote for the TUSC many was going to, that to came down to on the day.# To many people still remember what the Tory,s done still its not been forgotten like George4th hopes it as been. Labour still worried in the Redbridge ward as well as in Coxford ward and its going to be down to the Union Votes, will Union members will they deify its area Exe and give the Labour party some thing to remember about or will they do as they are told again and vote Labour, also will Lisa Whitemore contact all of its supporters and ask them to vote TUSC, and there are other campaigns thats happened over the last few years. Last local election Labour only had Redbridge ward to worry about, now this year they have Coxford also and next year how many more wards will they need to worry about. southy
  • Score: -5

6:39pm Mon 19 May 14

IronLady2010 says...

southy wrote:
lisa whitemore wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Missdoyle wrote:
We should all.do a vote of no.confidence
What would that achieve?
Is it that you have no confidence in anyone to run the Council? Maybe you'd rather we didn't elect someone and we end up with a dictatorship run Council?

The past few years have proved one thing, the current Council has been a shambles, the leader went and so did Councillors due to a few porky pies.

I've said before Royston is no angel, but he was honest with the electorate. He may have stood on some toes, but at least it was all in the open.

I don't believe in trying to persuade people to make a choice, i'd rather everyone make their own mind up.

I just feel everyone should use their right to vote and remember what has happened over the past few years.
Quite Agree Iron Lady, after the complete shambles and dishonesty from Labour, not to mention Asa Thorpe & Wife labelling us Cretins,Inbreds and Bigots I certainly will NOT be voting them. They lost my whole families votes due to the disgusting way they treated my dad after 42 years excellent service he gave to the Bereaved Families of Southampton. I Also know alot of my campaign supporters won't be either and there were over 3,000 supporters.
This is what Labour as done to it self, IronLady, It was only the TUSC, SP, SWP that help out where they could for Lisa Whitemore and it was noted at the time who the political groups was.
Last local elections Labour had to get the Unions out in the Redbridge ward to go round all its members in the ward to make sure they don't vote for the TUSC many was going to, that to came down to on the day.#
To many people still remember what the Tory,s done still its not been forgotten like George4th hopes it as been.
Labour still worried in the Redbridge ward as well as in Coxford ward and its going to be down to the Union Votes, will Union members will they deify its area Exe and give the Labour party some thing to remember about or will they do as they are told again and vote Labour, also will Lisa Whitemore contact all of its supporters and ask them to vote TUSC, and there are other campaigns thats happened over the last few years.
Last local election Labour only had Redbridge ward to worry about, now this year they have Coxford also and next year how many more wards will they need to worry about.
Hmmmmm,

The last election was based on the Unions telling members to vote Labour as the Unions had a hatred for Royston as he stood up to them.

So, we had weeks of strikes, rubbish everywhere, yet still people lost jobs under Labour.

As for TUSC, I think you personally killed that idea!
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lisa whitemore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Missdoyle[/bold] wrote: We should all.do a vote of no.confidence[/p][/quote]What would that achieve?[/p][/quote]Is it that you have no confidence in anyone to run the Council? Maybe you'd rather we didn't elect someone and we end up with a dictatorship run Council? The past few years have proved one thing, the current Council has been a shambles, the leader went and so did Councillors due to a few porky pies. I've said before Royston is no angel, but he was honest with the electorate. He may have stood on some toes, but at least it was all in the open. I don't believe in trying to persuade people to make a choice, i'd rather everyone make their own mind up. I just feel everyone should use their right to vote and remember what has happened over the past few years.[/p][/quote]Quite Agree Iron Lady, after the complete shambles and dishonesty from Labour, not to mention Asa Thorpe & Wife labelling us Cretins,Inbreds and Bigots I certainly will NOT be voting them. They lost my whole families votes due to the disgusting way they treated my dad after 42 years excellent service he gave to the Bereaved Families of Southampton. I Also know alot of my campaign supporters won't be either and there were over 3,000 supporters.[/p][/quote]This is what Labour as done to it self, IronLady, It was only the TUSC, SP, SWP that help out where they could for Lisa Whitemore and it was noted at the time who the political groups was. Last local elections Labour had to get the Unions out in the Redbridge ward to go round all its members in the ward to make sure they don't vote for the TUSC many was going to, that to came down to on the day.# To many people still remember what the Tory,s done still its not been forgotten like George4th hopes it as been. Labour still worried in the Redbridge ward as well as in Coxford ward and its going to be down to the Union Votes, will Union members will they deify its area Exe and give the Labour party some thing to remember about or will they do as they are told again and vote Labour, also will Lisa Whitemore contact all of its supporters and ask them to vote TUSC, and there are other campaigns thats happened over the last few years. Last local election Labour only had Redbridge ward to worry about, now this year they have Coxford also and next year how many more wards will they need to worry about.[/p][/quote]Hmmmmm, The last election was based on the Unions telling members to vote Labour as the Unions had a hatred for Royston as he stood up to them. So, we had weeks of strikes, rubbish everywhere, yet still people lost jobs under Labour. As for TUSC, I think you personally killed that idea! IronLady2010
  • Score: 2

6:49pm Mon 19 May 14

IronLady2010 says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
Paramjit Bahia wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
Shame they never ask over here in the west of the city it would show a different out look. over on the eastern side the Tory's are losing votes to Ukip and on the western side Labour is losing vote to TUSC
Can we see your survey results as proof of that statement?
An independent survey will be carried out on May 22nd but I'm not confident that certain losers will accept the outcome.
No you are quite right ...... the local Tory supporters were vile two years ago yet they were the ones preaching about democracy
Lone Ranger, I hate you, you beat me to it.

Yes I too remember bad losers kept on moaning after those elections for week after week.
Sorry Paramjit ...... It was just an open goal !!
.
Looks like some of the Tory posters are still moaning ....... My word what short memories they have
I was the first to congratulate the new leader. Although he didn't last very long?
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Shame they never ask over here in the west of the city it would show a different out look. over on the eastern side the Tory's are losing votes to Ukip and on the western side Labour is losing vote to TUSC[/p][/quote]Can we see your survey results as proof of that statement?[/p][/quote]An independent survey will be carried out on May 22nd but I'm not confident that certain losers will accept the outcome.[/p][/quote]No you are quite right ...... the local Tory supporters were vile two years ago yet they were the ones preaching about democracy[/p][/quote]Lone Ranger, I hate you, you beat me to it. Yes I too remember bad losers kept on moaning after those elections for week after week.[/p][/quote]Sorry Paramjit ...... It was just an open goal !! . Looks like some of the Tory posters are still moaning ....... My word what short memories they have[/p][/quote]I was the first to congratulate the new leader. Although he didn't last very long? IronLady2010
  • Score: 1

6:59pm Mon 19 May 14

southy says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
lisa whitemore wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Missdoyle wrote:
We should all.do a vote of no.confidence
What would that achieve?
Is it that you have no confidence in anyone to run the Council? Maybe you'd rather we didn't elect someone and we end up with a dictatorship run Council?

The past few years have proved one thing, the current Council has been a shambles, the leader went and so did Councillors due to a few porky pies.

I've said before Royston is no angel, but he was honest with the electorate. He may have stood on some toes, but at least it was all in the open.

I don't believe in trying to persuade people to make a choice, i'd rather everyone make their own mind up.

I just feel everyone should use their right to vote and remember what has happened over the past few years.
Quite Agree Iron Lady, after the complete shambles and dishonesty from Labour, not to mention Asa Thorpe & Wife labelling us Cretins,Inbreds and Bigots I certainly will NOT be voting them. They lost my whole families votes due to the disgusting way they treated my dad after 42 years excellent service he gave to the Bereaved Families of Southampton. I Also know alot of my campaign supporters won't be either and there were over 3,000 supporters.
This is what Labour as done to it self, IronLady, It was only the TUSC, SP, SWP that help out where they could for Lisa Whitemore and it was noted at the time who the political groups was.
Last local elections Labour had to get the Unions out in the Redbridge ward to go round all its members in the ward to make sure they don't vote for the TUSC many was going to, that to came down to on the day.#
To many people still remember what the Tory,s done still its not been forgotten like George4th hopes it as been.
Labour still worried in the Redbridge ward as well as in Coxford ward and its going to be down to the Union Votes, will Union members will they deify its area Exe and give the Labour party some thing to remember about or will they do as they are told again and vote Labour, also will Lisa Whitemore contact all of its supporters and ask them to vote TUSC, and there are other campaigns thats happened over the last few years.
Last local election Labour only had Redbridge ward to worry about, now this year they have Coxford also and next year how many more wards will they need to worry about.
Hmmmmm,

The last election was based on the Unions telling members to vote Labour as the Unions had a hatred for Royston as he stood up to them.

So, we had weeks of strikes, rubbish everywhere, yet still people lost jobs under Labour.

As for TUSC, I think you personally killed that idea!
Wrong, what will happen and you Tory and Ukip its supporters know this, In the pass the Tory's had pick up on a Labour Rebellion from Voters and when there,s another rebellion against Labour the Tory's and Ukip will not pick up on the votes they will end up going to TUSC and its only going to take 1 election ward win for the TUSC and that could start the ball rolling here in Southampton
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lisa whitemore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Missdoyle[/bold] wrote: We should all.do a vote of no.confidence[/p][/quote]What would that achieve?[/p][/quote]Is it that you have no confidence in anyone to run the Council? Maybe you'd rather we didn't elect someone and we end up with a dictatorship run Council? The past few years have proved one thing, the current Council has been a shambles, the leader went and so did Councillors due to a few porky pies. I've said before Royston is no angel, but he was honest with the electorate. He may have stood on some toes, but at least it was all in the open. I don't believe in trying to persuade people to make a choice, i'd rather everyone make their own mind up. I just feel everyone should use their right to vote and remember what has happened over the past few years.[/p][/quote]Quite Agree Iron Lady, after the complete shambles and dishonesty from Labour, not to mention Asa Thorpe & Wife labelling us Cretins,Inbreds and Bigots I certainly will NOT be voting them. They lost my whole families votes due to the disgusting way they treated my dad after 42 years excellent service he gave to the Bereaved Families of Southampton. I Also know alot of my campaign supporters won't be either and there were over 3,000 supporters.[/p][/quote]This is what Labour as done to it self, IronLady, It was only the TUSC, SP, SWP that help out where they could for Lisa Whitemore and it was noted at the time who the political groups was. Last local elections Labour had to get the Unions out in the Redbridge ward to go round all its members in the ward to make sure they don't vote for the TUSC many was going to, that to came down to on the day.# To many people still remember what the Tory,s done still its not been forgotten like George4th hopes it as been. Labour still worried in the Redbridge ward as well as in Coxford ward and its going to be down to the Union Votes, will Union members will they deify its area Exe and give the Labour party some thing to remember about or will they do as they are told again and vote Labour, also will Lisa Whitemore contact all of its supporters and ask them to vote TUSC, and there are other campaigns thats happened over the last few years. Last local election Labour only had Redbridge ward to worry about, now this year they have Coxford also and next year how many more wards will they need to worry about.[/p][/quote]Hmmmmm, The last election was based on the Unions telling members to vote Labour as the Unions had a hatred for Royston as he stood up to them. So, we had weeks of strikes, rubbish everywhere, yet still people lost jobs under Labour. As for TUSC, I think you personally killed that idea![/p][/quote]Wrong, what will happen and you Tory and Ukip its supporters know this, In the pass the Tory's had pick up on a Labour Rebellion from Voters and when there,s another rebellion against Labour the Tory's and Ukip will not pick up on the votes they will end up going to TUSC and its only going to take 1 election ward win for the TUSC and that could start the ball rolling here in Southampton southy
  • Score: -4

7:05pm Mon 19 May 14

southy says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
Paramjit Bahia wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
Shame they never ask over here in the west of the city it would show a different out look. over on the eastern side the Tory's are losing votes to Ukip and on the western side Labour is losing vote to TUSC
Can we see your survey results as proof of that statement?
An independent survey will be carried out on May 22nd but I'm not confident that certain losers will accept the outcome.
No you are quite right ...... the local Tory supporters were vile two years ago yet they were the ones preaching about democracy
Lone Ranger, I hate you, you beat me to it.

Yes I too remember bad losers kept on moaning after those elections for week after week.
Sorry Paramjit ...... It was just an open goal !!
.
Looks like some of the Tory posters are still moaning ....... My word what short memories they have
I was the first to congratulate the new leader. Although he didn't last very long?
Oh are you saying you are a Labour Councillor at the election counting night
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Shame they never ask over here in the west of the city it would show a different out look. over on the eastern side the Tory's are losing votes to Ukip and on the western side Labour is losing vote to TUSC[/p][/quote]Can we see your survey results as proof of that statement?[/p][/quote]An independent survey will be carried out on May 22nd but I'm not confident that certain losers will accept the outcome.[/p][/quote]No you are quite right ...... the local Tory supporters were vile two years ago yet they were the ones preaching about democracy[/p][/quote]Lone Ranger, I hate you, you beat me to it. Yes I too remember bad losers kept on moaning after those elections for week after week.[/p][/quote]Sorry Paramjit ...... It was just an open goal !! . Looks like some of the Tory posters are still moaning ....... My word what short memories they have[/p][/quote]I was the first to congratulate the new leader. Although he didn't last very long?[/p][/quote]Oh are you saying you are a Labour Councillor at the election counting night southy
  • Score: -1

7:26pm Mon 19 May 14

IronLady2010 says...

southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
lisa whitemore wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Missdoyle wrote:
We should all.do a vote of no.confidence
What would that achieve?
Is it that you have no confidence in anyone to run the Council? Maybe you'd rather we didn't elect someone and we end up with a dictatorship run Council?

The past few years have proved one thing, the current Council has been a shambles, the leader went and so did Councillors due to a few porky pies.

I've said before Royston is no angel, but he was honest with the electorate. He may have stood on some toes, but at least it was all in the open.

I don't believe in trying to persuade people to make a choice, i'd rather everyone make their own mind up.

I just feel everyone should use their right to vote and remember what has happened over the past few years.
Quite Agree Iron Lady, after the complete shambles and dishonesty from Labour, not to mention Asa Thorpe & Wife labelling us Cretins,Inbreds and Bigots I certainly will NOT be voting them. They lost my whole families votes due to the disgusting way they treated my dad after 42 years excellent service he gave to the Bereaved Families of Southampton. I Also know alot of my campaign supporters won't be either and there were over 3,000 supporters.
This is what Labour as done to it self, IronLady, It was only the TUSC, SP, SWP that help out where they could for Lisa Whitemore and it was noted at the time who the political groups was.
Last local elections Labour had to get the Unions out in the Redbridge ward to go round all its members in the ward to make sure they don't vote for the TUSC many was going to, that to came down to on the day.#
To many people still remember what the Tory,s done still its not been forgotten like George4th hopes it as been.
Labour still worried in the Redbridge ward as well as in Coxford ward and its going to be down to the Union Votes, will Union members will they deify its area Exe and give the Labour party some thing to remember about or will they do as they are told again and vote Labour, also will Lisa Whitemore contact all of its supporters and ask them to vote TUSC, and there are other campaigns thats happened over the last few years.
Last local election Labour only had Redbridge ward to worry about, now this year they have Coxford also and next year how many more wards will they need to worry about.
Hmmmmm,

The last election was based on the Unions telling members to vote Labour as the Unions had a hatred for Royston as he stood up to them.

So, we had weeks of strikes, rubbish everywhere, yet still people lost jobs under Labour.

As for TUSC, I think you personally killed that idea!
Wrong, what will happen and you Tory and Ukip its supporters know this, In the pass the Tory's had pick up on a Labour Rebellion from Voters and when there,s another rebellion against Labour the Tory's and Ukip will not pick up on the votes they will end up going to TUSC and its only going to take 1 election ward win for the TUSC and that could start the ball rolling here in Southampton
I'm fairly confident in saying your TUSC party will be ashamed. I know they've dumped you, but it will take years of your input to make people choose that party.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lisa whitemore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Missdoyle[/bold] wrote: We should all.do a vote of no.confidence[/p][/quote]What would that achieve?[/p][/quote]Is it that you have no confidence in anyone to run the Council? Maybe you'd rather we didn't elect someone and we end up with a dictatorship run Council? The past few years have proved one thing, the current Council has been a shambles, the leader went and so did Councillors due to a few porky pies. I've said before Royston is no angel, but he was honest with the electorate. He may have stood on some toes, but at least it was all in the open. I don't believe in trying to persuade people to make a choice, i'd rather everyone make their own mind up. I just feel everyone should use their right to vote and remember what has happened over the past few years.[/p][/quote]Quite Agree Iron Lady, after the complete shambles and dishonesty from Labour, not to mention Asa Thorpe & Wife labelling us Cretins,Inbreds and Bigots I certainly will NOT be voting them. They lost my whole families votes due to the disgusting way they treated my dad after 42 years excellent service he gave to the Bereaved Families of Southampton. I Also know alot of my campaign supporters won't be either and there were over 3,000 supporters.[/p][/quote]This is what Labour as done to it self, IronLady, It was only the TUSC, SP, SWP that help out where they could for Lisa Whitemore and it was noted at the time who the political groups was. Last local elections Labour had to get the Unions out in the Redbridge ward to go round all its members in the ward to make sure they don't vote for the TUSC many was going to, that to came down to on the day.# To many people still remember what the Tory,s done still its not been forgotten like George4th hopes it as been. Labour still worried in the Redbridge ward as well as in Coxford ward and its going to be down to the Union Votes, will Union members will they deify its area Exe and give the Labour party some thing to remember about or will they do as they are told again and vote Labour, also will Lisa Whitemore contact all of its supporters and ask them to vote TUSC, and there are other campaigns thats happened over the last few years. Last local election Labour only had Redbridge ward to worry about, now this year they have Coxford also and next year how many more wards will they need to worry about.[/p][/quote]Hmmmmm, The last election was based on the Unions telling members to vote Labour as the Unions had a hatred for Royston as he stood up to them. So, we had weeks of strikes, rubbish everywhere, yet still people lost jobs under Labour. As for TUSC, I think you personally killed that idea![/p][/quote]Wrong, what will happen and you Tory and Ukip its supporters know this, In the pass the Tory's had pick up on a Labour Rebellion from Voters and when there,s another rebellion against Labour the Tory's and Ukip will not pick up on the votes they will end up going to TUSC and its only going to take 1 election ward win for the TUSC and that could start the ball rolling here in Southampton[/p][/quote]I'm fairly confident in saying your TUSC party will be ashamed. I know they've dumped you, but it will take years of your input to make people choose that party. IronLady2010
  • Score: 3

7:42pm Mon 19 May 14

freefinker says...

southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
lisa whitemore wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Missdoyle wrote:
We should all.do a vote of no.confidence
What would that achieve?
Is it that you have no confidence in anyone to run the Council? Maybe you'd rather we didn't elect someone and we end up with a dictatorship run Council?

The past few years have proved one thing, the current Council has been a shambles, the leader went and so did Councillors due to a few porky pies.

I've said before Royston is no angel, but he was honest with the electorate. He may have stood on some toes, but at least it was all in the open.

I don't believe in trying to persuade people to make a choice, i'd rather everyone make their own mind up.

I just feel everyone should use their right to vote and remember what has happened over the past few years.
Quite Agree Iron Lady, after the complete shambles and dishonesty from Labour, not to mention Asa Thorpe & Wife labelling us Cretins,Inbreds and Bigots I certainly will NOT be voting them. They lost my whole families votes due to the disgusting way they treated my dad after 42 years excellent service he gave to the Bereaved Families of Southampton. I Also know alot of my campaign supporters won't be either and there were over 3,000 supporters.
This is what Labour as done to it self, IronLady, It was only the TUSC, SP, SWP that help out where they could for Lisa Whitemore and it was noted at the time who the political groups was.
Last local elections Labour had to get the Unions out in the Redbridge ward to go round all its members in the ward to make sure they don't vote for the TUSC many was going to, that to came down to on the day.#
To many people still remember what the Tory,s done still its not been forgotten like George4th hopes it as been.
Labour still worried in the Redbridge ward as well as in Coxford ward and its going to be down to the Union Votes, will Union members will they deify its area Exe and give the Labour party some thing to remember about or will they do as they are told again and vote Labour, also will Lisa Whitemore contact all of its supporters and ask them to vote TUSC, and there are other campaigns thats happened over the last few years.
Last local election Labour only had Redbridge ward to worry about, now this year they have Coxford also and next year how many more wards will they need to worry about.
Hmmmmm,

The last election was based on the Unions telling members to vote Labour as the Unions had a hatred for Royston as he stood up to them.

So, we had weeks of strikes, rubbish everywhere, yet still people lost jobs under Labour.

As for TUSC, I think you personally killed that idea!
Wrong, what will happen and you Tory and Ukip its supporters know this, In the pass the Tory's had pick up on a Labour Rebellion from Voters and when there,s another rebellion against Labour the Tory's and Ukip will not pick up on the votes they will end up going to TUSC and its only going to take 1 election ward win for the TUSC and that could start the ball rolling here in Southampton
.. ah, bless.
More fantasy politics from our (deselected) southy.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lisa whitemore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Missdoyle[/bold] wrote: We should all.do a vote of no.confidence[/p][/quote]What would that achieve?[/p][/quote]Is it that you have no confidence in anyone to run the Council? Maybe you'd rather we didn't elect someone and we end up with a dictatorship run Council? The past few years have proved one thing, the current Council has been a shambles, the leader went and so did Councillors due to a few porky pies. I've said before Royston is no angel, but he was honest with the electorate. He may have stood on some toes, but at least it was all in the open. I don't believe in trying to persuade people to make a choice, i'd rather everyone make their own mind up. I just feel everyone should use their right to vote and remember what has happened over the past few years.[/p][/quote]Quite Agree Iron Lady, after the complete shambles and dishonesty from Labour, not to mention Asa Thorpe & Wife labelling us Cretins,Inbreds and Bigots I certainly will NOT be voting them. They lost my whole families votes due to the disgusting way they treated my dad after 42 years excellent service he gave to the Bereaved Families of Southampton. I Also know alot of my campaign supporters won't be either and there were over 3,000 supporters.[/p][/quote]This is what Labour as done to it self, IronLady, It was only the TUSC, SP, SWP that help out where they could for Lisa Whitemore and it was noted at the time who the political groups was. Last local elections Labour had to get the Unions out in the Redbridge ward to go round all its members in the ward to make sure they don't vote for the TUSC many was going to, that to came down to on the day.# To many people still remember what the Tory,s done still its not been forgotten like George4th hopes it as been. Labour still worried in the Redbridge ward as well as in Coxford ward and its going to be down to the Union Votes, will Union members will they deify its area Exe and give the Labour party some thing to remember about or will they do as they are told again and vote Labour, also will Lisa Whitemore contact all of its supporters and ask them to vote TUSC, and there are other campaigns thats happened over the last few years. Last local election Labour only had Redbridge ward to worry about, now this year they have Coxford also and next year how many more wards will they need to worry about.[/p][/quote]Hmmmmm, The last election was based on the Unions telling members to vote Labour as the Unions had a hatred for Royston as he stood up to them. So, we had weeks of strikes, rubbish everywhere, yet still people lost jobs under Labour. As for TUSC, I think you personally killed that idea![/p][/quote]Wrong, what will happen and you Tory and Ukip its supporters know this, In the pass the Tory's had pick up on a Labour Rebellion from Voters and when there,s another rebellion against Labour the Tory's and Ukip will not pick up on the votes they will end up going to TUSC and its only going to take 1 election ward win for the TUSC and that could start the ball rolling here in Southampton[/p][/quote].. ah, bless. More fantasy politics from our (deselected) southy. freefinker
  • Score: 2

7:42pm Mon 19 May 14

southy says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
lisa whitemore wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Missdoyle wrote:
We should all.do a vote of no.confidence
What would that achieve?
Is it that you have no confidence in anyone to run the Council? Maybe you'd rather we didn't elect someone and we end up with a dictatorship run Council?

The past few years have proved one thing, the current Council has been a shambles, the leader went and so did Councillors due to a few porky pies.

I've said before Royston is no angel, but he was honest with the electorate. He may have stood on some toes, but at least it was all in the open.

I don't believe in trying to persuade people to make a choice, i'd rather everyone make their own mind up.

I just feel everyone should use their right to vote and remember what has happened over the past few years.
Quite Agree Iron Lady, after the complete shambles and dishonesty from Labour, not to mention Asa Thorpe & Wife labelling us Cretins,Inbreds and Bigots I certainly will NOT be voting them. They lost my whole families votes due to the disgusting way they treated my dad after 42 years excellent service he gave to the Bereaved Families of Southampton. I Also know alot of my campaign supporters won't be either and there were over 3,000 supporters.
This is what Labour as done to it self, IronLady, It was only the TUSC, SP, SWP that help out where they could for Lisa Whitemore and it was noted at the time who the political groups was.
Last local elections Labour had to get the Unions out in the Redbridge ward to go round all its members in the ward to make sure they don't vote for the TUSC many was going to, that to came down to on the day.#
To many people still remember what the Tory,s done still its not been forgotten like George4th hopes it as been.
Labour still worried in the Redbridge ward as well as in Coxford ward and its going to be down to the Union Votes, will Union members will they deify its area Exe and give the Labour party some thing to remember about or will they do as they are told again and vote Labour, also will Lisa Whitemore contact all of its supporters and ask them to vote TUSC, and there are other campaigns thats happened over the last few years.
Last local election Labour only had Redbridge ward to worry about, now this year they have Coxford also and next year how many more wards will they need to worry about.
Hmmmmm,

The last election was based on the Unions telling members to vote Labour as the Unions had a hatred for Royston as he stood up to them.

So, we had weeks of strikes, rubbish everywhere, yet still people lost jobs under Labour.

As for TUSC, I think you personally killed that idea!
Wrong, what will happen and you Tory and Ukip its supporters know this, In the pass the Tory's had pick up on a Labour Rebellion from Voters and when there,s another rebellion against Labour the Tory's and Ukip will not pick up on the votes they will end up going to TUSC and its only going to take 1 election ward win for the TUSC and that could start the ball rolling here in Southampton
I'm fairly confident in saying your TUSC party will be ashamed. I know they've dumped you, but it will take years of your input to make people choose that party.
Your talking Crap and you know it, they did not dump me, I stood down for this year, and they was sad to hear that I would not be standing, your just trying to politically assassinate that,s all and its not working, people are all ready starting to choose the TUSC and your kind fear it because once in office people will keep coming back because the TUSC truly represent the people. You fear us because you know it will be the TUSC that will pick up on Labour votes at the next Labour rebellion and not your beloved Tory Party.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lisa whitemore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Missdoyle[/bold] wrote: We should all.do a vote of no.confidence[/p][/quote]What would that achieve?[/p][/quote]Is it that you have no confidence in anyone to run the Council? Maybe you'd rather we didn't elect someone and we end up with a dictatorship run Council? The past few years have proved one thing, the current Council has been a shambles, the leader went and so did Councillors due to a few porky pies. I've said before Royston is no angel, but he was honest with the electorate. He may have stood on some toes, but at least it was all in the open. I don't believe in trying to persuade people to make a choice, i'd rather everyone make their own mind up. I just feel everyone should use their right to vote and remember what has happened over the past few years.[/p][/quote]Quite Agree Iron Lady, after the complete shambles and dishonesty from Labour, not to mention Asa Thorpe & Wife labelling us Cretins,Inbreds and Bigots I certainly will NOT be voting them. They lost my whole families votes due to the disgusting way they treated my dad after 42 years excellent service he gave to the Bereaved Families of Southampton. I Also know alot of my campaign supporters won't be either and there were over 3,000 supporters.[/p][/quote]This is what Labour as done to it self, IronLady, It was only the TUSC, SP, SWP that help out where they could for Lisa Whitemore and it was noted at the time who the political groups was. Last local elections Labour had to get the Unions out in the Redbridge ward to go round all its members in the ward to make sure they don't vote for the TUSC many was going to, that to came down to on the day.# To many people still remember what the Tory,s done still its not been forgotten like George4th hopes it as been. Labour still worried in the Redbridge ward as well as in Coxford ward and its going to be down to the Union Votes, will Union members will they deify its area Exe and give the Labour party some thing to remember about or will they do as they are told again and vote Labour, also will Lisa Whitemore contact all of its supporters and ask them to vote TUSC, and there are other campaigns thats happened over the last few years. Last local election Labour only had Redbridge ward to worry about, now this year they have Coxford also and next year how many more wards will they need to worry about.[/p][/quote]Hmmmmm, The last election was based on the Unions telling members to vote Labour as the Unions had a hatred for Royston as he stood up to them. So, we had weeks of strikes, rubbish everywhere, yet still people lost jobs under Labour. As for TUSC, I think you personally killed that idea![/p][/quote]Wrong, what will happen and you Tory and Ukip its supporters know this, In the pass the Tory's had pick up on a Labour Rebellion from Voters and when there,s another rebellion against Labour the Tory's and Ukip will not pick up on the votes they will end up going to TUSC and its only going to take 1 election ward win for the TUSC and that could start the ball rolling here in Southampton[/p][/quote]I'm fairly confident in saying your TUSC party will be ashamed. I know they've dumped you, but it will take years of your input to make people choose that party.[/p][/quote]Your talking Crap and you know it, they did not dump me, I stood down for this year, and they was sad to hear that I would not be standing, your just trying to politically assassinate that,s all and its not working, people are all ready starting to choose the TUSC and your kind fear it because once in office people will keep coming back because the TUSC truly represent the people. You fear us because you know it will be the TUSC that will pick up on Labour votes at the next Labour rebellion and not your beloved Tory Party. southy
  • Score: -4

7:46pm Mon 19 May 14

southy says...

IronLady2010 wrote
I was the first to congratulate the new leader. Although he didn't last very long?

I still waiting for you to answer this Ironlady
Oh are you saying you are a Labour Councillor at the election counting night
IronLady2010 wrote I was the first to congratulate the new leader. Although he didn't last very long? I still waiting for you to answer this Ironlady Oh are you saying you are a Labour Councillor at the election counting night southy
  • Score: -2

7:48pm Mon 19 May 14

Kirsty666 says...

I'll vote if the UK is given back to its people not a bunch of selfless people currently in parliament!
I'll vote if the UK is given back to its people not a bunch of selfless people currently in parliament! Kirsty666
  • Score: 0

7:52pm Mon 19 May 14

freefinker says...

southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
lisa whitemore wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Missdoyle wrote:
We should all.do a vote of no.confidence
What would that achieve?
Is it that you have no confidence in anyone to run the Council? Maybe you'd rather we didn't elect someone and we end up with a dictatorship run Council?

The past few years have proved one thing, the current Council has been a shambles, the leader went and so did Councillors due to a few porky pies.

I've said before Royston is no angel, but he was honest with the electorate. He may have stood on some toes, but at least it was all in the open.

I don't believe in trying to persuade people to make a choice, i'd rather everyone make their own mind up.

I just feel everyone should use their right to vote and remember what has happened over the past few years.
Quite Agree Iron Lady, after the complete shambles and dishonesty from Labour, not to mention Asa Thorpe & Wife labelling us Cretins,Inbreds and Bigots I certainly will NOT be voting them. They lost my whole families votes due to the disgusting way they treated my dad after 42 years excellent service he gave to the Bereaved Families of Southampton. I Also know alot of my campaign supporters won't be either and there were over 3,000 supporters.
This is what Labour as done to it self, IronLady, It was only the TUSC, SP, SWP that help out where they could for Lisa Whitemore and it was noted at the time who the political groups was.
Last local elections Labour had to get the Unions out in the Redbridge ward to go round all its members in the ward to make sure they don't vote for the TUSC many was going to, that to came down to on the day.#
To many people still remember what the Tory,s done still its not been forgotten like George4th hopes it as been.
Labour still worried in the Redbridge ward as well as in Coxford ward and its going to be down to the Union Votes, will Union members will they deify its area Exe and give the Labour party some thing to remember about or will they do as they are told again and vote Labour, also will Lisa Whitemore contact all of its supporters and ask them to vote TUSC, and there are other campaigns thats happened over the last few years.
Last local election Labour only had Redbridge ward to worry about, now this year they have Coxford also and next year how many more wards will they need to worry about.
Hmmmmm,

The last election was based on the Unions telling members to vote Labour as the Unions had a hatred for Royston as he stood up to them.

So, we had weeks of strikes, rubbish everywhere, yet still people lost jobs under Labour.

As for TUSC, I think you personally killed that idea!
Wrong, what will happen and you Tory and Ukip its supporters know this, In the pass the Tory's had pick up on a Labour Rebellion from Voters and when there,s another rebellion against Labour the Tory's and Ukip will not pick up on the votes they will end up going to TUSC and its only going to take 1 election ward win for the TUSC and that could start the ball rolling here in Southampton
I'm fairly confident in saying your TUSC party will be ashamed. I know they've dumped you, but it will take years of your input to make people choose that party.
Your talking Crap and you know it, they did not dump me, I stood down for this year, and they was sad to hear that I would not be standing, your just trying to politically assassinate that,s all and its not working, people are all ready starting to choose the TUSC and your kind fear it because once in office people will keep coming back because the TUSC truly represent the people. You fear us because you know it will be the TUSC that will pick up on Labour votes at the next Labour rebellion and not your beloved Tory Party.
.. oh dear.
For someone who has spent a political lifetime waiting for the Glorious Trotskyist Revolution; and seeing support for it decreasing decade by decade; it just shows the power this cult holds over southy that he can still brainwash himself to believe that his mob "truly represent the people".
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lisa whitemore[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Missdoyle[/bold] wrote: We should all.do a vote of no.confidence[/p][/quote]What would that achieve?[/p][/quote]Is it that you have no confidence in anyone to run the Council? Maybe you'd rather we didn't elect someone and we end up with a dictatorship run Council? The past few years have proved one thing, the current Council has been a shambles, the leader went and so did Councillors due to a few porky pies. I've said before Royston is no angel, but he was honest with the electorate. He may have stood on some toes, but at least it was all in the open. I don't believe in trying to persuade people to make a choice, i'd rather everyone make their own mind up. I just feel everyone should use their right to vote and remember what has happened over the past few years.[/p][/quote]Quite Agree Iron Lady, after the complete shambles and dishonesty from Labour, not to mention Asa Thorpe & Wife labelling us Cretins,Inbreds and Bigots I certainly will NOT be voting them. They lost my whole families votes due to the disgusting way they treated my dad after 42 years excellent service he gave to the Bereaved Families of Southampton. I Also know alot of my campaign supporters won't be either and there were over 3,000 supporters.[/p][/quote]This is what Labour as done to it self, IronLady, It was only the TUSC, SP, SWP that help out where they could for Lisa Whitemore and it was noted at the time who the political groups was. Last local elections Labour had to get the Unions out in the Redbridge ward to go round all its members in the ward to make sure they don't vote for the TUSC many was going to, that to came down to on the day.# To many people still remember what the Tory,s done still its not been forgotten like George4th hopes it as been. Labour still worried in the Redbridge ward as well as in Coxford ward and its going to be down to the Union Votes, will Union members will they deify its area Exe and give the Labour party some thing to remember about or will they do as they are told again and vote Labour, also will Lisa Whitemore contact all of its supporters and ask them to vote TUSC, and there are other campaigns thats happened over the last few years. Last local election Labour only had Redbridge ward to worry about, now this year they have Coxford also and next year how many more wards will they need to worry about.[/p][/quote]Hmmmmm, The last election was based on the Unions telling members to vote Labour as the Unions had a hatred for Royston as he stood up to them. So, we had weeks of strikes, rubbish everywhere, yet still people lost jobs under Labour. As for TUSC, I think you personally killed that idea![/p][/quote]Wrong, what will happen and you Tory and Ukip its supporters know this, In the pass the Tory's had pick up on a Labour Rebellion from Voters and when there,s another rebellion against Labour the Tory's and Ukip will not pick up on the votes they will end up going to TUSC and its only going to take 1 election ward win for the TUSC and that could start the ball rolling here in Southampton[/p][/quote]I'm fairly confident in saying your TUSC party will be ashamed. I know they've dumped you, but it will take years of your input to make people choose that party.[/p][/quote]Your talking Crap and you know it, they did not dump me, I stood down for this year, and they was sad to hear that I would not be standing, your just trying to politically assassinate that,s all and its not working, people are all ready starting to choose the TUSC and your kind fear it because once in office people will keep coming back because the TUSC truly represent the people. You fear us because you know it will be the TUSC that will pick up on Labour votes at the next Labour rebellion and not your beloved Tory Party.[/p][/quote].. oh dear. For someone who has spent a political lifetime waiting for the Glorious Trotskyist Revolution; and seeing support for it decreasing decade by decade; it just shows the power this cult holds over southy that he can still brainwash himself to believe that his mob "truly represent the people". freefinker
  • Score: 2

8:14pm Mon 19 May 14

southy says...

southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote
I was the first to congratulate the new leader. Although he didn't last very long?

I still waiting for you to answer this Ironlady
Oh are you saying you are a Labour Councillor at the election counting night
Labour can afford to lose half its votes in Redbridge Ward to the TUSC and still win the Redbridge ward. But I still waiting on your answer, But for you answer I warn you now I was there and at the time when the sholing result was known (it was the 4th gain from the Tory party and the one that put them out of office) I was standing right next to Richard Wiliams I see who congratulated him first unofficially and up on stage for the announcement at the official notice I tell you this much it was not the Tory leader that congratulated him first
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: IronLady2010 wrote I was the first to congratulate the new leader. Although he didn't last very long? I still waiting for you to answer this Ironlady Oh are you saying you are a Labour Councillor at the election counting night[/p][/quote]Labour can afford to lose half its votes in Redbridge Ward to the TUSC and still win the Redbridge ward. But I still waiting on your answer, But for you answer I warn you now I was there and at the time when the sholing result was known (it was the 4th gain from the Tory party and the one that put them out of office) I was standing right next to Richard Wiliams I see who congratulated him first unofficially and up on stage for the announcement at the official notice I tell you this much it was not the Tory leader that congratulated him first southy
  • Score: -2

9:18pm Mon 19 May 14

Cyber__Fug says...

southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
Shame they never ask over here in the west of the city it would show a different out look. over on the eastern side the Tory's are losing votes to Ukip and on the western side Labour is losing vote to TUSC
Can we see your survey results as proof of that statement?
You don't need surveys to know what is going on, like up in Coxford the people have not really decided yet, But you would not under stand what is going on, to know that you would need to be born and live here
Sanctamonious tw@t
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Shame they never ask over here in the west of the city it would show a different out look. over on the eastern side the Tory's are losing votes to Ukip and on the western side Labour is losing vote to TUSC[/p][/quote]Can we see your survey results as proof of that statement?[/p][/quote]You don't need surveys to know what is going on, like up in Coxford the people have not really decided yet, But you would not under stand what is going on, to know that you would need to be born and live here[/p][/quote]Sanctamonious tw@t Cyber__Fug
  • Score: 3

10:23pm Mon 19 May 14

Lone Ranger. says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
Paramjit Bahia wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
Shame they never ask over here in the west of the city it would show a different out look. over on the eastern side the Tory's are losing votes to Ukip and on the western side Labour is losing vote to TUSC
Can we see your survey results as proof of that statement?
An independent survey will be carried out on May 22nd but I'm not confident that certain losers will accept the outcome.
No you are quite right ...... the local Tory supporters were vile two years ago yet they were the ones preaching about democracy
Lone Ranger, I hate you, you beat me to it.

Yes I too remember bad losers kept on moaning after those elections for week after week.
Sorry Paramjit ...... It was just an open goal !!
.
Looks like some of the Tory posters are still moaning ....... My word what short memories they have
I was the first to congratulate the new leader. Although he didn't last very long?
Was that through gritted teeth
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Shame they never ask over here in the west of the city it would show a different out look. over on the eastern side the Tory's are losing votes to Ukip and on the western side Labour is losing vote to TUSC[/p][/quote]Can we see your survey results as proof of that statement?[/p][/quote]An independent survey will be carried out on May 22nd but I'm not confident that certain losers will accept the outcome.[/p][/quote]No you are quite right ...... the local Tory supporters were vile two years ago yet they were the ones preaching about democracy[/p][/quote]Lone Ranger, I hate you, you beat me to it. Yes I too remember bad losers kept on moaning after those elections for week after week.[/p][/quote]Sorry Paramjit ...... It was just an open goal !! . Looks like some of the Tory posters are still moaning ....... My word what short memories they have[/p][/quote]I was the first to congratulate the new leader. Although he didn't last very long?[/p][/quote]Was that through gritted teeth Lone Ranger.
  • Score: 0

10:44pm Mon 19 May 14

southy says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
Paramjit Bahia wrote:
Lone Ranger. wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
Shame they never ask over here in the west of the city it would show a different out look. over on the eastern side the Tory's are losing votes to Ukip and on the western side Labour is losing vote to TUSC
Can we see your survey results as proof of that statement?
An independent survey will be carried out on May 22nd but I'm not confident that certain losers will accept the outcome.
No you are quite right ...... the local Tory supporters were vile two years ago yet they were the ones preaching about democracy
Lone Ranger, I hate you, you beat me to it.

Yes I too remember bad losers kept on moaning after those elections for week after week.
Sorry Paramjit ...... It was just an open goal !!
.
Looks like some of the Tory posters are still moaning ....... My word what short memories they have
I was the first to congratulate the new leader. Although he didn't last very long?
Was that through gritted teeth
lol Lone
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Shame they never ask over here in the west of the city it would show a different out look. over on the eastern side the Tory's are losing votes to Ukip and on the western side Labour is losing vote to TUSC[/p][/quote]Can we see your survey results as proof of that statement?[/p][/quote]An independent survey will be carried out on May 22nd but I'm not confident that certain losers will accept the outcome.[/p][/quote]No you are quite right ...... the local Tory supporters were vile two years ago yet they were the ones preaching about democracy[/p][/quote]Lone Ranger, I hate you, you beat me to it. Yes I too remember bad losers kept on moaning after those elections for week after week.[/p][/quote]Sorry Paramjit ...... It was just an open goal !! . Looks like some of the Tory posters are still moaning ....... My word what short memories they have[/p][/quote]I was the first to congratulate the new leader. Although he didn't last very long?[/p][/quote]Was that through gritted teeth[/p][/quote]lol Lone southy
  • Score: 0

10:50pm Mon 19 May 14

southy says...

Cyber__Fug wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
Shame they never ask over here in the west of the city it would show a different out look. over on the eastern side the Tory's are losing votes to Ukip and on the western side Labour is losing vote to TUSC
Can we see your survey results as proof of that statement?
You don't need surveys to know what is going on, like up in Coxford the people have not really decided yet, But you would not under stand what is going on, to know that you would need to be born and live here
Sanctamonious tw@t
ah so your saying its ok for the likes of your self, Ironlady free and others that support the far right wing to be Sanctimonious to me but when i am its different and not only that called a name on top of it
[quote][p][bold]Cyber__Fug[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Shame they never ask over here in the west of the city it would show a different out look. over on the eastern side the Tory's are losing votes to Ukip and on the western side Labour is losing vote to TUSC[/p][/quote]Can we see your survey results as proof of that statement?[/p][/quote]You don't need surveys to know what is going on, like up in Coxford the people have not really decided yet, But you would not under stand what is going on, to know that you would need to be born and live here[/p][/quote]Sanctamonious tw@t[/p][/quote]ah so your saying its ok for the likes of your self, Ironlady free and others that support the far right wing to be Sanctimonious to me but when i am its different and not only that called a name on top of it southy
  • Score: 0

10:52pm Mon 19 May 14

southy says...

Lone I think they been getting a battering today home goals every where
Lone I think they been getting a battering today home goals every where southy
  • Score: 0

11:25pm Mon 19 May 14

freefinker says...

southy wrote:
Cyber__Fug wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
Shame they never ask over here in the west of the city it would show a different out look. over on the eastern side the Tory's are losing votes to Ukip and on the western side Labour is losing vote to TUSC
Can we see your survey results as proof of that statement?
You don't need surveys to know what is going on, like up in Coxford the people have not really decided yet, But you would not under stand what is going on, to know that you would need to be born and live here
Sanctamonious tw@t
ah so your saying its ok for the likes of your self, Ironlady free and others that support the far right wing to be Sanctimonious to me but when i am its different and not only that called a name on top of it
.. hey, don't you accuse me of being someone "that support the far right wing".
Far from it, I'm way to the left of centre - it's just that I have the everyday understanding of what is left, right and centre; but you clearly don't.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cyber__Fug[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Shame they never ask over here in the west of the city it would show a different out look. over on the eastern side the Tory's are losing votes to Ukip and on the western side Labour is losing vote to TUSC[/p][/quote]Can we see your survey results as proof of that statement?[/p][/quote]You don't need surveys to know what is going on, like up in Coxford the people have not really decided yet, But you would not under stand what is going on, to know that you would need to be born and live here[/p][/quote]Sanctamonious tw@t[/p][/quote]ah so your saying its ok for the likes of your self, Ironlady free and others that support the far right wing to be Sanctimonious to me but when i am its different and not only that called a name on top of it[/p][/quote].. hey, don't you accuse me of being someone "that support the far right wing". Far from it, I'm way to the left of centre - it's just that I have the everyday understanding of what is left, right and centre; but you clearly don't. freefinker
  • Score: 1

11:50pm Mon 19 May 14

FoysCornerBoy says...

Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G
raham
wrote:
We're sick to death of being colonised and having a "government" taking its orders from Tel Aviv, Brussels and Washington - Vote UKIP, you know it makes sense.

That is all!
So do UKIP supporters like you subscribe to the global zionist conspiracy theory? I wonder how many others there are.
[quote][p][bold]Mr-La-De-Da-Gunner-G raham[/bold] wrote: We're sick to death of being colonised and having a "government" taking its orders from Tel Aviv, Brussels and Washington - Vote UKIP, you know it makes sense. That is all![/p][/quote]So do UKIP supporters like you subscribe to the global zionist conspiracy theory? I wonder how many others there are. FoysCornerBoy
  • Score: 2

8:14am Tue 20 May 14

southy says...

freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
Cyber__Fug wrote:
southy wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
southy wrote:
Shame they never ask over here in the west of the city it would show a different out look. over on the eastern side the Tory's are losing votes to Ukip and on the western side Labour is losing vote to TUSC
Can we see your survey results as proof of that statement?
You don't need surveys to know what is going on, like up in Coxford the people have not really decided yet, But you would not under stand what is going on, to know that you would need to be born and live here
Sanctamonious tw@t
ah so your saying its ok for the likes of your self, Ironlady free and others that support the far right wing to be Sanctimonious to me but when i am its different and not only that called a name on top of it
.. hey, don't you accuse me of being someone "that support the far right wing".
Far from it, I'm way to the left of centre - it's just that I have the everyday understanding of what is left, right and centre; but you clearly don't.
Na your just Right wing Free, but then again what is it you accuse me off being, which show that you do not have a clear understanding of what is left or right or center,
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Cyber__Fug[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Shame they never ask over here in the west of the city it would show a different out look. over on the eastern side the Tory's are losing votes to Ukip and on the western side Labour is losing vote to TUSC[/p][/quote]Can we see your survey results as proof of that statement?[/p][/quote]You don't need surveys to know what is going on, like up in Coxford the people have not really decided yet, But you would not under stand what is going on, to know that you would need to be born and live here[/p][/quote]Sanctamonious tw@t[/p][/quote]ah so your saying its ok for the likes of your self, Ironlady free and others that support the far right wing to be Sanctimonious to me but when i am its different and not only that called a name on top of it[/p][/quote].. hey, don't you accuse me of being someone "that support the far right wing". Far from it, I'm way to the left of centre - it's just that I have the everyday understanding of what is left, right and centre; but you clearly don't.[/p][/quote]Na your just Right wing Free, but then again what is it you accuse me off being, which show that you do not have a clear understanding of what is left or right or center, southy
  • Score: -1

8:45am Tue 20 May 14

skeptik says...

When folk start saying you do not understand - listen to me I do! Problem with some of the minority parties who complain that if we listened to them we would support them. The evidence appears to be that most folk do not vote for them because they have listened.
When folk start saying you do not understand - listen to me I do! Problem with some of the minority parties who complain that if we listened to them we would support them. The evidence appears to be that most folk do not vote for them because they have listened. skeptik
  • Score: 3

8:51am Tue 20 May 14

townieboy says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
townieboy wrote: I urge all in BARGATE WARD to vote out the LABOUR COIUCILLORS. They are doing nothing in our ward, just taking money and not acting on any issues in Golden Grove and surrounding areas. UKIP will do for me this time around they can do NO worse than others who do nothing.
I would rather people took the time to look at the past, read what each party is saying and make a choice from there. It's great you are voting UKIP, but trying to persuade others to vote for them without telling us what they can do isn't right. People need to research, we are often fast to complain when things aren't going well, but we do have the right to vote. I would guess most people who moan about the Council never vote.
I go on what ive asked my local councillor John Noon to sort out. Parking where he and i live is a joke. As he rides his pushbike to the civic centre he cant be bothered to put a few in expensive bollards up tp stop people blocking my £300 a year parking bay. Any change i would welcome as he has has done NOTHING. Thats the idea of ellections..........
..vote out people who dont carry out your wishes.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]townieboy[/bold] wrote: I urge all in BARGATE WARD to vote out the LABOUR COIUCILLORS. They are doing nothing in our ward, just taking money and not acting on any issues in Golden Grove and surrounding areas. UKIP will do for me this time around they can do NO worse than others who do nothing.[/p][/quote]I would rather people took the time to look at the past, read what each party is saying and make a choice from there. It's great you are voting UKIP, but trying to persuade others to vote for them without telling us what they can do isn't right. People need to research, we are often fast to complain when things aren't going well, but we do have the right to vote. I would guess most people who moan about the Council never vote.[/p][/quote]I go on what ive asked my local councillor John Noon to sort out. Parking where he and i live is a joke. As he rides his pushbike to the civic centre he cant be bothered to put a few in expensive bollards up tp stop people blocking my £300 a year parking bay. Any change i would welcome as he has has done NOTHING. Thats the idea of ellections.......... ..vote out people who dont carry out your wishes. townieboy
  • Score: -2

9:02am Tue 20 May 14

southy says...

skeptik wrote:
When folk start saying you do not understand - listen to me I do! Problem with some of the minority parties who complain that if we listened to them we would support them. The evidence appears to be that most folk do not vote for them because they have listened.
I think you find they want to vote for them but the fear as been put into them by the major party,s, to stop them from supporting the minority,s by saying things like if you don't vote for us you let in the other majority,
What I am doing or what I said was this.

Half of the Labour Voters in the Redbridge Ward could vote for the TUSC and still win the Redbridge Ward, there would be no fear here in the Redbridge Ward of letting the Tory's win this seat.

Look at the last Election result for the Redbridge Ward.

Redbridge
Party Candidate Votes
Labour Lee Whitbread 1,775
Conservative Spandita Woodman 703
TUSC Pete Wyatt 220
Liberal Democrat Simon Stokes 182

Half of the Labour voters could off voted TUSC and still kept the Tory's out of the Redbridge ward.
Labour was playing the fear card last time round and they are doing it again, Tory,s do it as well
Redbridge is not the only ward like this.
[quote][p][bold]skeptik[/bold] wrote: When folk start saying you do not understand - listen to me I do! Problem with some of the minority parties who complain that if we listened to them we would support them. The evidence appears to be that most folk do not vote for them because they have listened.[/p][/quote]I think you find they want to vote for them but the fear as been put into them by the major party,s, to stop them from supporting the minority,s by saying things like if you don't vote for us you let in the other majority, What I am doing or what I said was this. Half of the Labour Voters in the Redbridge Ward could vote for the TUSC and still win the Redbridge Ward, there would be no fear here in the Redbridge Ward of letting the Tory's win this seat. Look at the last Election result for the Redbridge Ward. Redbridge Party Candidate Votes Labour Lee Whitbread 1,775 Conservative Spandita Woodman 703 TUSC Pete Wyatt 220 Liberal Democrat Simon Stokes 182 Half of the Labour voters could off voted TUSC and still kept the Tory's out of the Redbridge ward. Labour was playing the fear card last time round and they are doing it again, Tory,s do it as well Redbridge is not the only ward like this. southy
  • Score: -2

9:32am Tue 20 May 14

freefinker says...

southy wrote:
skeptik wrote:
When folk start saying you do not understand - listen to me I do! Problem with some of the minority parties who complain that if we listened to them we would support them. The evidence appears to be that most folk do not vote for them because they have listened.
I think you find they want to vote for them but the fear as been put into them by the major party,s, to stop them from supporting the minority,s by saying things like if you don't vote for us you let in the other majority,
What I am doing or what I said was this.

Half of the Labour Voters in the Redbridge Ward could vote for the TUSC and still win the Redbridge Ward, there would be no fear here in the Redbridge Ward of letting the Tory's win this seat.

Look at the last Election result for the Redbridge Ward.

Redbridge
Party Candidate Votes
Labour Lee Whitbread 1,775
Conservative Spandita Woodman 703
TUSC Pete Wyatt 220
Liberal Democrat Simon Stokes 182

Half of the Labour voters could off voted TUSC and still kept the Tory's out of the Redbridge ward.
Labour was playing the fear card last time round and they are doing it again, Tory,s do it as well
Redbridge is not the only ward like this.
oh, do stop bigging yourself and TUSC up.
You only got 220 votes from an electorate of over 10,000 because the overwhelming vast majority of people in Redbridge reject you.
It's absolutely nothing to do with fear, or the unions, or anything else.
It's because your policies are impractical, unwanted and, frankly, quite loony.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]skeptik[/bold] wrote: When folk start saying you do not understand - listen to me I do! Problem with some of the minority parties who complain that if we listened to them we would support them. The evidence appears to be that most folk do not vote for them because they have listened.[/p][/quote]I think you find they want to vote for them but the fear as been put into them by the major party,s, to stop them from supporting the minority,s by saying things like if you don't vote for us you let in the other majority, What I am doing or what I said was this. Half of the Labour Voters in the Redbridge Ward could vote for the TUSC and still win the Redbridge Ward, there would be no fear here in the Redbridge Ward of letting the Tory's win this seat. Look at the last Election result for the Redbridge Ward. Redbridge Party Candidate Votes Labour Lee Whitbread 1,775 Conservative Spandita Woodman 703 TUSC Pete Wyatt 220 Liberal Democrat Simon Stokes 182 Half of the Labour voters could off voted TUSC and still kept the Tory's out of the Redbridge ward. Labour was playing the fear card last time round and they are doing it again, Tory,s do it as well Redbridge is not the only ward like this.[/p][/quote]oh, do stop bigging yourself and TUSC up. You only got 220 votes from an electorate of over 10,000 because the overwhelming vast majority of people in Redbridge reject you. It's absolutely nothing to do with fear, or the unions, or anything else. It's because your policies are impractical, unwanted and, frankly, quite loony. freefinker
  • Score: 3

9:43am Tue 20 May 14

skeptik says...

You suggest that one party stops people voting for another - with fear! Get over it - that assumes that only those voting for some obscure party are 'clever enough to see through it' Frankly I was shocked to see a claim of 220 votes! As for half could vote - will the recorder read out votes awarded and votes almost awarded?
You suggest that one party stops people voting for another - with fear! Get over it - that assumes that only those voting for some obscure party are 'clever enough to see through it' Frankly I was shocked to see a claim of 220 votes! As for half could vote - will the recorder read out votes awarded and votes almost awarded? skeptik
  • Score: 1

9:50am Tue 20 May 14

southy says...

freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
skeptik wrote:
When folk start saying you do not understand - listen to me I do! Problem with some of the minority parties who complain that if we listened to them we would support them. The evidence appears to be that most folk do not vote for them because they have listened.
I think you find they want to vote for them but the fear as been put into them by the major party,s, to stop them from supporting the minority,s by saying things like if you don't vote for us you let in the other majority,
What I am doing or what I said was this.

Half of the Labour Voters in the Redbridge Ward could vote for the TUSC and still win the Redbridge Ward, there would be no fear here in the Redbridge Ward of letting the Tory's win this seat.

Look at the last Election result for the Redbridge Ward.

Redbridge
Party Candidate Votes
Labour Lee Whitbread 1,775
Conservative Spandita Woodman 703
TUSC Pete Wyatt 220
Liberal Democrat Simon Stokes 182

Half of the Labour voters could off voted TUSC and still kept the Tory's out of the Redbridge ward.
Labour was playing the fear card last time round and they are doing it again, Tory,s do it as well
Redbridge is not the only ward like this.
oh, do stop bigging yourself and TUSC up.
You only got 220 votes from an electorate of over 10,000 because the overwhelming vast majority of people in Redbridge reject you.
It's absolutely nothing to do with fear, or the unions, or anything else.
It's because your policies are impractical, unwanted and, frankly, quite loony.
Did they or was it the fear card played that is played often by the major party's, and what,s up with you don't you want some else to give it a try the majors party's can't get things right and keep failing the people, they want change but keep getting oh you vote for them you let the other major win.
And it was not rejection if it was the votes would of gone down for me and not up, its was going up because of the work I put in getting the message across in a small patch of an area at a time.
Also the mass majority did not vote because they no longer believe in the political party,s and that,s the Majors party's that have done that to people again no rejection, just no faith in the political party's they think that they are all the same all out for what they can get for them self,s.
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]skeptik[/bold] wrote: When folk start saying you do not understand - listen to me I do! Problem with some of the minority parties who complain that if we listened to them we would support them. The evidence appears to be that most folk do not vote for them because they have listened.[/p][/quote]I think you find they want to vote for them but the fear as been put into them by the major party,s, to stop them from supporting the minority,s by saying things like if you don't vote for us you let in the other majority, What I am doing or what I said was this. Half of the Labour Voters in the Redbridge Ward could vote for the TUSC and still win the Redbridge Ward, there would be no fear here in the Redbridge Ward of letting the Tory's win this seat. Look at the last Election result for the Redbridge Ward. Redbridge Party Candidate Votes Labour Lee Whitbread 1,775 Conservative Spandita Woodman 703 TUSC Pete Wyatt 220 Liberal Democrat Simon Stokes 182 Half of the Labour voters could off voted TUSC and still kept the Tory's out of the Redbridge ward. Labour was playing the fear card last time round and they are doing it again, Tory,s do it as well Redbridge is not the only ward like this.[/p][/quote]oh, do stop bigging yourself and TUSC up. You only got 220 votes from an electorate of over 10,000 because the overwhelming vast majority of people in Redbridge reject you. It's absolutely nothing to do with fear, or the unions, or anything else. It's because your policies are impractical, unwanted and, frankly, quite loony.[/p][/quote]Did they or was it the fear card played that is played often by the major party's, and what,s up with you don't you want some else to give it a try the majors party's can't get things right and keep failing the people, they want change but keep getting oh you vote for them you let the other major win. And it was not rejection if it was the votes would of gone down for me and not up, its was going up because of the work I put in getting the message across in a small patch of an area at a time. Also the mass majority did not vote because they no longer believe in the political party,s and that,s the Majors party's that have done that to people again no rejection, just no faith in the political party's they think that they are all the same all out for what they can get for them self,s. southy
  • Score: -2

9:53am Tue 20 May 14

southy says...

skeptik wrote:
You suggest that one party stops people voting for another - with fear! Get over it - that assumes that only those voting for some obscure party are 'clever enough to see through it' Frankly I was shocked to see a claim of 220 votes! As for half could vote - will the recorder read out votes awarded and votes almost awarded?
Is that way we get called Splitters for, no we get called that because it's a fear card being played
[quote][p][bold]skeptik[/bold] wrote: You suggest that one party stops people voting for another - with fear! Get over it - that assumes that only those voting for some obscure party are 'clever enough to see through it' Frankly I was shocked to see a claim of 220 votes! As for half could vote - will the recorder read out votes awarded and votes almost awarded?[/p][/quote]Is that way we get called Splitters for, no we get called that because it's a fear card being played southy
  • Score: -1

9:54am Tue 20 May 14

Torchie1 says...

freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
skeptik wrote:
When folk start saying you do not understand - listen to me I do! Problem with some of the minority parties who complain that if we listened to them we would support them. The evidence appears to be that most folk do not vote for them because they have listened.
I think you find they want to vote for them but the fear as been put into them by the major party,s, to stop them from supporting the minority,s by saying things like if you don't vote for us you let in the other majority,
What I am doing or what I said was this.

Half of the Labour Voters in the Redbridge Ward could vote for the TUSC and still win the Redbridge Ward, there would be no fear here in the Redbridge Ward of letting the Tory's win this seat.

Look at the last Election result for the Redbridge Ward.

Redbridge
Party Candidate Votes
Labour Lee Whitbread 1,775
Conservative Spandita Woodman 703
TUSC Pete Wyatt 220
Liberal Democrat Simon Stokes 182

Half of the Labour voters could off voted TUSC and still kept the Tory's out of the Redbridge ward.
Labour was playing the fear card last time round and they are doing it again, Tory,s do it as well
Redbridge is not the only ward like this.
oh, do stop bigging yourself and TUSC up.
You only got 220 votes from an electorate of over 10,000 because the overwhelming vast majority of people in Redbridge reject you.
It's absolutely nothing to do with fear, or the unions, or anything else.
It's because your policies are impractical, unwanted and, frankly, quite loony.
When 'the Tusc' is beaten by a comedian standing for 'Elvis loves Pets' the 'Beer, Baccy & Crumpet party' or the 'Monster Raving Loony Party' even the mildly retarded would recognise that 'the Tusc' is never going to be anything more than a joke. The candidates are the same angry old misfits who blame their personal failures on other peoples success and want to tear society down in the name of 'fairness'. For the last half century and more they have morphed from the communists through to Militant Tendency and the Socialist Worker with the common theme of failure to change anything hung around their neck like a millstone. I think they bring a little colour and amusement in a trend that was started by Screaming Lord Sutch and his Monster Raving Loony candidates.
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]skeptik[/bold] wrote: When folk start saying you do not understand - listen to me I do! Problem with some of the minority parties who complain that if we listened to them we would support them. The evidence appears to be that most folk do not vote for them because they have listened.[/p][/quote]I think you find they want to vote for them but the fear as been put into them by the major party,s, to stop them from supporting the minority,s by saying things like if you don't vote for us you let in the other majority, What I am doing or what I said was this. Half of the Labour Voters in the Redbridge Ward could vote for the TUSC and still win the Redbridge Ward, there would be no fear here in the Redbridge Ward of letting the Tory's win this seat. Look at the last Election result for the Redbridge Ward. Redbridge Party Candidate Votes Labour Lee Whitbread 1,775 Conservative Spandita Woodman 703 TUSC Pete Wyatt 220 Liberal Democrat Simon Stokes 182 Half of the Labour voters could off voted TUSC and still kept the Tory's out of the Redbridge ward. Labour was playing the fear card last time round and they are doing it again, Tory,s do it as well Redbridge is not the only ward like this.[/p][/quote]oh, do stop bigging yourself and TUSC up. You only got 220 votes from an electorate of over 10,000 because the overwhelming vast majority of people in Redbridge reject you. It's absolutely nothing to do with fear, or the unions, or anything else. It's because your policies are impractical, unwanted and, frankly, quite loony.[/p][/quote]When 'the Tusc' is beaten by a comedian standing for 'Elvis loves Pets' the 'Beer, Baccy & Crumpet party' or the 'Monster Raving Loony Party' even the mildly retarded would recognise that 'the Tusc' is never going to be anything more than a joke. The candidates are the same angry old misfits who blame their personal failures on other peoples success and want to tear society down in the name of 'fairness'. For the last half century and more they have morphed from the communists through to Militant Tendency and the Socialist Worker with the common theme of failure to change anything hung around their neck like a millstone. I think they bring a little colour and amusement in a trend that was started by Screaming Lord Sutch and his Monster Raving Loony candidates. Torchie1
  • Score: 0

10:01am Tue 20 May 14

Torchie1 says...

southy wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
skeptik wrote:
When folk start saying you do not understand - listen to me I do! Problem with some of the minority parties who complain that if we listened to them we would support them. The evidence appears to be that most folk do not vote for them because they have listened.
I think you find they want to vote for them but the fear as been put into them by the major party,s, to stop them from supporting the minority,s by saying things like if you don't vote for us you let in the other majority,
What I am doing or what I said was this.

Half of the Labour Voters in the Redbridge Ward could vote for the TUSC and still win the Redbridge Ward, there would be no fear here in the Redbridge Ward of letting the Tory's win this seat.

Look at the last Election result for the Redbridge Ward.

Redbridge
Party Candidate Votes
Labour Lee Whitbread 1,775
Conservative Spandita Woodman 703
TUSC Pete Wyatt 220
Liberal Democrat Simon Stokes 182

Half of the Labour voters could off voted TUSC and still kept the Tory's out of the Redbridge ward.
Labour was playing the fear card last time round and they are doing it again, Tory,s do it as well
Redbridge is not the only ward like this.
oh, do stop bigging yourself and TUSC up.
You only got 220 votes from an electorate of over 10,000 because the overwhelming vast majority of people in Redbridge reject you.
It's absolutely nothing to do with fear, or the unions, or anything else.
It's because your policies are impractical, unwanted and, frankly, quite loony.
Did they or was it the fear card played that is played often by the major party's, and what,s up with you don't you want some else to give it a try the majors party's can't get things right and keep failing the people, they want change but keep getting oh you vote for them you let the other major win.
And it was not rejection if it was the votes would of gone down for me and not up, its was going up because of the work I put in getting the message across in a small patch of an area at a time.
Also the mass majority did not vote because they no longer believe in the political party,s and that,s the Majors party's that have done that to people again no rejection, just no faith in the political party's they think that they are all the same all out for what they can get for them self,s.
With the deep political insight that you claim to have could you explain what threats were used by the 'Elvis loves Pets', 'Beer, Baccy & Crumpet' Party and the 'Monster Raving Loon'y Party to frighten the voters of Eastleigh away from voting for 'the Tusc' ? In the secrecy of the voting booth, it's just the voter with their slip and a pencil, no-one is forcing them to vote for any party that they don't want to and they clearly don't want to vote for 'the Tusc'. What part of this simple logic are you failing to understand? No-one wants you, just accept it.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]skeptik[/bold] wrote: When folk start saying you do not understand - listen to me I do! Problem with some of the minority parties who complain that if we listened to them we would support them. The evidence appears to be that most folk do not vote for them because they have listened.[/p][/quote]I think you find they want to vote for them but the fear as been put into them by the major party,s, to stop them from supporting the minority,s by saying things like if you don't vote for us you let in the other majority, What I am doing or what I said was this. Half of the Labour Voters in the Redbridge Ward could vote for the TUSC and still win the Redbridge Ward, there would be no fear here in the Redbridge Ward of letting the Tory's win this seat. Look at the last Election result for the Redbridge Ward. Redbridge Party Candidate Votes Labour Lee Whitbread 1,775 Conservative Spandita Woodman 703 TUSC Pete Wyatt 220 Liberal Democrat Simon Stokes 182 Half of the Labour voters could off voted TUSC and still kept the Tory's out of the Redbridge ward. Labour was playing the fear card last time round and they are doing it again, Tory,s do it as well Redbridge is not the only ward like this.[/p][/quote]oh, do stop bigging yourself and TUSC up. You only got 220 votes from an electorate of over 10,000 because the overwhelming vast majority of people in Redbridge reject you. It's absolutely nothing to do with fear, or the unions, or anything else. It's because your policies are impractical, unwanted and, frankly, quite loony.[/p][/quote]Did they or was it the fear card played that is played often by the major party's, and what,s up with you don't you want some else to give it a try the majors party's can't get things right and keep failing the people, they want change but keep getting oh you vote for them you let the other major win. And it was not rejection if it was the votes would of gone down for me and not up, its was going up because of the work I put in getting the message across in a small patch of an area at a time. Also the mass majority did not vote because they no longer believe in the political party,s and that,s the Majors party's that have done that to people again no rejection, just no faith in the political party's they think that they are all the same all out for what they can get for them self,s.[/p][/quote]With the deep political insight that you claim to have could you explain what threats were used by the 'Elvis loves Pets', 'Beer, Baccy & Crumpet' Party and the 'Monster Raving Loon'y Party to frighten the voters of Eastleigh away from voting for 'the Tusc' ? In the secrecy of the voting booth, it's just the voter with their slip and a pencil, no-one is forcing them to vote for any party that they don't want to and they clearly don't want to vote for 'the Tusc'. What part of this simple logic are you failing to understand? No-one wants you, just accept it. Torchie1
  • Score: 2

10:29am Tue 20 May 14

southy says...

Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
skeptik wrote:
When folk start saying you do not understand - listen to me I do! Problem with some of the minority parties who complain that if we listened to them we would support them. The evidence appears to be that most folk do not vote for them because they have listened.
I think you find they want to vote for them but the fear as been put into them by the major party,s, to stop them from supporting the minority,s by saying things like if you don't vote for us you let in the other majority,
What I am doing or what I said was this.

Half of the Labour Voters in the Redbridge Ward could vote for the TUSC and still win the Redbridge Ward, there would be no fear here in the Redbridge Ward of letting the Tory's win this seat.

Look at the last Election result for the Redbridge Ward.

Redbridge
Party Candidate Votes
Labour Lee Whitbread 1,775
Conservative Spandita Woodman 703
TUSC Pete Wyatt 220
Liberal Democrat Simon Stokes 182

Half of the Labour voters could off voted TUSC and still kept the Tory's out of the Redbridge ward.
Labour was playing the fear card last time round and they are doing it again, Tory,s do it as well
Redbridge is not the only ward like this.
oh, do stop bigging yourself and TUSC up.
You only got 220 votes from an electorate of over 10,000 because the overwhelming vast majority of people in Redbridge reject you.
It's absolutely nothing to do with fear, or the unions, or anything else.
It's because your policies are impractical, unwanted and, frankly, quite loony.
Did they or was it the fear card played that is played often by the major party's, and what,s up with you don't you want some else to give it a try the majors party's can't get things right and keep failing the people, they want change but keep getting oh you vote for them you let the other major win.
And it was not rejection if it was the votes would of gone down for me and not up, its was going up because of the work I put in getting the message across in a small patch of an area at a time.
Also the mass majority did not vote because they no longer believe in the political party,s and that,s the Majors party's that have done that to people again no rejection, just no faith in the political party's they think that they are all the same all out for what they can get for them self,s.
With the deep political insight that you claim to have could you explain what threats were used by the 'Elvis loves Pets', 'Beer, Baccy & Crumpet' Party and the 'Monster Raving Loon'y Party to frighten the voters of Eastleigh away from voting for 'the Tusc' ? In the secrecy of the voting booth, it's just the voter with their slip and a pencil, no-one is forcing them to vote for any party that they don't want to and they clearly don't want to vote for 'the Tusc'. What part of this simple logic are you failing to understand? No-one wants you, just accept it.
And what as Eastleigh MP Constituency By-Election got to do with Redbridge Ward come to think about it What,s it got to do with Southampton Council Election Nothing You do realise the difference don't you 1 is national the other is local and have you ever look at a map to find out the location of Eastleigh to relation to Redbridge Southampton, Or is it where you really live and why you keep brining up Eastleigh, you also forget that the TUSC is new political group/party and is doing well for a new group maybe to well for your liking.
The concept of comparing Eastleigh Financial belt in by-election to a working class area as no comparison totally different way of the people in how they vote.
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]skeptik[/bold] wrote: When folk start saying you do not understand - listen to me I do! Problem with some of the minority parties who complain that if we listened to them we would support them. The evidence appears to be that most folk do not vote for them because they have listened.[/p][/quote]I think you find they want to vote for them but the fear as been put into them by the major party,s, to stop them from supporting the minority,s by saying things like if you don't vote for us you let in the other majority, What I am doing or what I said was this. Half of the Labour Voters in the Redbridge Ward could vote for the TUSC and still win the Redbridge Ward, there would be no fear here in the Redbridge Ward of letting the Tory's win this seat. Look at the last Election result for the Redbridge Ward. Redbridge Party Candidate Votes Labour Lee Whitbread 1,775 Conservative Spandita Woodman 703 TUSC Pete Wyatt 220 Liberal Democrat Simon Stokes 182 Half of the Labour voters could off voted TUSC and still kept the Tory's out of the Redbridge ward. Labour was playing the fear card last time round and they are doing it again, Tory,s do it as well Redbridge is not the only ward like this.[/p][/quote]oh, do stop bigging yourself and TUSC up. You only got 220 votes from an electorate of over 10,000 because the overwhelming vast majority of people in Redbridge reject you. It's absolutely nothing to do with fear, or the unions, or anything else. It's because your policies are impractical, unwanted and, frankly, quite loony.[/p][/quote]Did they or was it the fear card played that is played often by the major party's, and what,s up with you don't you want some else to give it a try the majors party's can't get things right and keep failing the people, they want change but keep getting oh you vote for them you let the other major win. And it was not rejection if it was the votes would of gone down for me and not up, its was going up because of the work I put in getting the message across in a small patch of an area at a time. Also the mass majority did not vote because they no longer believe in the political party,s and that,s the Majors party's that have done that to people again no rejection, just no faith in the political party's they think that they are all the same all out for what they can get for them self,s.[/p][/quote]With the deep political insight that you claim to have could you explain what threats were used by the 'Elvis loves Pets', 'Beer, Baccy & Crumpet' Party and the 'Monster Raving Loon'y Party to frighten the voters of Eastleigh away from voting for 'the Tusc' ? In the secrecy of the voting booth, it's just the voter with their slip and a pencil, no-one is forcing them to vote for any party that they don't want to and they clearly don't want to vote for 'the Tusc'. What part of this simple logic are you failing to understand? No-one wants you, just accept it.[/p][/quote]And what as Eastleigh MP Constituency By-Election got to do with Redbridge Ward come to think about it What,s it got to do with Southampton Council Election Nothing You do realise the difference don't you 1 is national the other is local and have you ever look at a map to find out the location of Eastleigh to relation to Redbridge Southampton, Or is it where you really live and why you keep brining up Eastleigh, you also forget that the TUSC is new political group/party and is doing well for a new group maybe to well for your liking. The concept of comparing Eastleigh Financial belt in by-election to a working class area as no comparison totally different way of the people in how they vote. southy
  • Score: -1

11:02am Tue 20 May 14

Torchie1 says...

southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
skeptik wrote:
When folk start saying you do not understand - listen to me I do! Problem with some of the minority parties who complain that if we listened to them we would support them. The evidence appears to be that most folk do not vote for them because they have listened.
I think you find they want to vote for them but the fear as been put into them by the major party,s, to stop them from supporting the minority,s by saying things like if you don't vote for us you let in the other majority,
What I am doing or what I said was this.

Half of the Labour Voters in the Redbridge Ward could vote for the TUSC and still win the Redbridge Ward, there would be no fear here in the Redbridge Ward of letting the Tory's win this seat.

Look at the last Election result for the Redbridge Ward.

Redbridge
Party Candidate Votes
Labour Lee Whitbread 1,775
Conservative Spandita Woodman 703
TUSC Pete Wyatt 220
Liberal Democrat Simon Stokes 182

Half of the Labour voters could off voted TUSC and still kept the Tory's out of the Redbridge ward.
Labour was playing the fear card last time round and they are doing it again, Tory,s do it as well
Redbridge is not the only ward like this.
oh, do stop bigging yourself and TUSC up.
You only got 220 votes from an electorate of over 10,000 because the overwhelming vast majority of people in Redbridge reject you.
It's absolutely nothing to do with fear, or the unions, or anything else.
It's because your policies are impractical, unwanted and, frankly, quite loony.
Did they or was it the fear card played that is played often by the major party's, and what,s up with you don't you want some else to give it a try the majors party's can't get things right and keep failing the people, they want change but keep getting oh you vote for them you let the other major win.
And it was not rejection if it was the votes would of gone down for me and not up, its was going up because of the work I put in getting the message across in a small patch of an area at a time.
Also the mass majority did not vote because they no longer believe in the political party,s and that,s the Majors party's that have done that to people again no rejection, just no faith in the political party's they think that they are all the same all out for what they can get for them self,s.
With the deep political insight that you claim to have could you explain what threats were used by the 'Elvis loves Pets', 'Beer, Baccy & Crumpet' Party and the 'Monster Raving Loon'y Party to frighten the voters of Eastleigh away from voting for 'the Tusc' ? In the secrecy of the voting booth, it's just the voter with their slip and a pencil, no-one is forcing them to vote for any party that they don't want to and they clearly don't want to vote for 'the Tusc'. What part of this simple logic are you failing to understand? No-one wants you, just accept it.
And what as Eastleigh MP Constituency By-Election got to do with Redbridge Ward come to think about it What,s it got to do with Southampton Council Election Nothing You do realise the difference don't you 1 is national the other is local and have you ever look at a map to find out the location of Eastleigh to relation to Redbridge Southampton, Or is it where you really live and why you keep brining up Eastleigh, you also forget that the TUSC is new political group/party and is doing well for a new group maybe to well for your liking.
The concept of comparing Eastleigh Financial belt in by-election to a working class area as no comparison totally different way of the people in how they vote.
When backed in to a corner introduce a range of variables to raise a smokescreen. It doesn't matter which election it is 'the Tusc' is being scrutinised by the electorate and found unelectable. As for being a new party, it isn't, it's a re-brand of a line of failures going back to the original (and unelectable) communist party of Great Britain. Staying with the theme of new party's, the same argument can be used by the Monster Raving Lonny party, the Beer, Baccy & Crumpet Party, the Elvis loves Pets party and all of the others that regularly leave 'the Tusc' trailing in their wake. You have no valid argument and no support other than the oddballs, failures and misfits.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]skeptik[/bold] wrote: When folk start saying you do not understand - listen to me I do! Problem with some of the minority parties who complain that if we listened to them we would support them. The evidence appears to be that most folk do not vote for them because they have listened.[/p][/quote]I think you find they want to vote for them but the fear as been put into them by the major party,s, to stop them from supporting the minority,s by saying things like if you don't vote for us you let in the other majority, What I am doing or what I said was this. Half of the Labour Voters in the Redbridge Ward could vote for the TUSC and still win the Redbridge Ward, there would be no fear here in the Redbridge Ward of letting the Tory's win this seat. Look at the last Election result for the Redbridge Ward. Redbridge Party Candidate Votes Labour Lee Whitbread 1,775 Conservative Spandita Woodman 703 TUSC Pete Wyatt 220 Liberal Democrat Simon Stokes 182 Half of the Labour voters could off voted TUSC and still kept the Tory's out of the Redbridge ward. Labour was playing the fear card last time round and they are doing it again, Tory,s do it as well Redbridge is not the only ward like this.[/p][/quote]oh, do stop bigging yourself and TUSC up. You only got 220 votes from an electorate of over 10,000 because the overwhelming vast majority of people in Redbridge reject you. It's absolutely nothing to do with fear, or the unions, or anything else. It's because your policies are impractical, unwanted and, frankly, quite loony.[/p][/quote]Did they or was it the fear card played that is played often by the major party's, and what,s up with you don't you want some else to give it a try the majors party's can't get things right and keep failing the people, they want change but keep getting oh you vote for them you let the other major win. And it was not rejection if it was the votes would of gone down for me and not up, its was going up because of the work I put in getting the message across in a small patch of an area at a time. Also the mass majority did not vote because they no longer believe in the political party,s and that,s the Majors party's that have done that to people again no rejection, just no faith in the political party's they think that they are all the same all out for what they can get for them self,s.[/p][/quote]With the deep political insight that you claim to have could you explain what threats were used by the 'Elvis loves Pets', 'Beer, Baccy & Crumpet' Party and the 'Monster Raving Loon'y Party to frighten the voters of Eastleigh away from voting for 'the Tusc' ? In the secrecy of the voting booth, it's just the voter with their slip and a pencil, no-one is forcing them to vote for any party that they don't want to and they clearly don't want to vote for 'the Tusc'. What part of this simple logic are you failing to understand? No-one wants you, just accept it.[/p][/quote]And what as Eastleigh MP Constituency By-Election got to do with Redbridge Ward come to think about it What,s it got to do with Southampton Council Election Nothing You do realise the difference don't you 1 is national the other is local and have you ever look at a map to find out the location of Eastleigh to relation to Redbridge Southampton, Or is it where you really live and why you keep brining up Eastleigh, you also forget that the TUSC is new political group/party and is doing well for a new group maybe to well for your liking. The concept of comparing Eastleigh Financial belt in by-election to a working class area as no comparison totally different way of the people in how they vote.[/p][/quote]When backed in to a corner introduce a range of variables to raise a smokescreen. It doesn't matter which election it is 'the Tusc' is being scrutinised by the electorate and found unelectable. As for being a new party, it isn't, it's a re-brand of a line of failures going back to the original (and unelectable) communist party of Great Britain. Staying with the theme of new party's, the same argument can be used by the Monster Raving Lonny party, the Beer, Baccy & Crumpet Party, the Elvis loves Pets party and all of the others that regularly leave 'the Tusc' trailing in their wake. You have no valid argument and no support other than the oddballs, failures and misfits. Torchie1
  • Score: 0

11:34am Tue 20 May 14

southy says...

Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
skeptik wrote:
When folk start saying you do not understand - listen to me I do! Problem with some of the minority parties who complain that if we listened to them we would support them. The evidence appears to be that most folk do not vote for them because they have listened.
I think you find they want to vote for them but the fear as been put into them by the major party,s, to stop them from supporting the minority,s by saying things like if you don't vote for us you let in the other majority,
What I am doing or what I said was this.

Half of the Labour Voters in the Redbridge Ward could vote for the TUSC and still win the Redbridge Ward, there would be no fear here in the Redbridge Ward of letting the Tory's win this seat.

Look at the last Election result for the Redbridge Ward.

Redbridge
Party Candidate Votes
Labour Lee Whitbread 1,775
Conservative Spandita Woodman 703
TUSC Pete Wyatt 220
Liberal Democrat Simon Stokes 182

Half of the Labour voters could off voted TUSC and still kept the Tory's out of the Redbridge ward.
Labour was playing the fear card last time round and they are doing it again, Tory,s do it as well
Redbridge is not the only ward like this.
oh, do stop bigging yourself and TUSC up.
You only got 220 votes from an electorate of over 10,000 because the overwhelming vast majority of people in Redbridge reject you.
It's absolutely nothing to do with fear, or the unions, or anything else.
It's because your policies are impractical, unwanted and, frankly, quite loony.
Did they or was it the fear card played that is played often by the major party's, and what,s up with you don't you want some else to give it a try the majors party's can't get things right and keep failing the people, they want change but keep getting oh you vote for them you let the other major win.
And it was not rejection if it was the votes would of gone down for me and not up, its was going up because of the work I put in getting the message across in a small patch of an area at a time.
Also the mass majority did not vote because they no longer believe in the political party,s and that,s the Majors party's that have done that to people again no rejection, just no faith in the political party's they think that they are all the same all out for what they can get for them self,s.
With the deep political insight that you claim to have could you explain what threats were used by the 'Elvis loves Pets', 'Beer, Baccy & Crumpet' Party and the 'Monster Raving Loon'y Party to frighten the voters of Eastleigh away from voting for 'the Tusc' ? In the secrecy of the voting booth, it's just the voter with their slip and a pencil, no-one is forcing them to vote for any party that they don't want to and they clearly don't want to vote for 'the Tusc'. What part of this simple logic are you failing to understand? No-one wants you, just accept it.
And what as Eastleigh MP Constituency By-Election got to do with Redbridge Ward come to think about it What,s it got to do with Southampton Council Election Nothing You do realise the difference don't you 1 is national the other is local and have you ever look at a map to find out the location of Eastleigh to relation to Redbridge Southampton, Or is it where you really live and why you keep brining up Eastleigh, you also forget that the TUSC is new political group/party and is doing well for a new group maybe to well for your liking.
The concept of comparing Eastleigh Financial belt in by-election to a working class area as no comparison totally different way of the people in how they vote.
When backed in to a corner introduce a range of variables to raise a smokescreen. It doesn't matter which election it is 'the Tusc' is being scrutinised by the electorate and found unelectable. As for being a new party, it isn't, it's a re-brand of a line of failures going back to the original (and unelectable) communist party of Great Britain. Staying with the theme of new party's, the same argument can be used by the Monster Raving Lonny party, the Beer, Baccy & Crumpet Party, the Elvis loves Pets party and all of the others that regularly leave 'the Tusc' trailing in their wake. You have no valid argument and no support other than the oddballs, failures and misfits.
Are you saying you got back into a corner by introducing Eastleigh MP by election on the Financial belt, Your smoke screen no one else,s. When this article is about the Euro Elections and Local Election You do realise that there is no General Election this year that comes next year,
And TUSC is not taking part in the Euro Elections but the No2EU is, TUSC is taking part in the Local Elections only or is that to advance for you.
Now get your self into order talk about Local Elections or Euro Elections
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]skeptik[/bold] wrote: When folk start saying you do not understand - listen to me I do! Problem with some of the minority parties who complain that if we listened to them we would support them. The evidence appears to be that most folk do not vote for them because they have listened.[/p][/quote]I think you find they want to vote for them but the fear as been put into them by the major party,s, to stop them from supporting the minority,s by saying things like if you don't vote for us you let in the other majority, What I am doing or what I said was this. Half of the Labour Voters in the Redbridge Ward could vote for the TUSC and still win the Redbridge Ward, there would be no fear here in the Redbridge Ward of letting the Tory's win this seat. Look at the last Election result for the Redbridge Ward. Redbridge Party Candidate Votes Labour Lee Whitbread 1,775 Conservative Spandita Woodman 703 TUSC Pete Wyatt 220 Liberal Democrat Simon Stokes 182 Half of the Labour voters could off voted TUSC and still kept the Tory's out of the Redbridge ward. Labour was playing the fear card last time round and they are doing it again, Tory,s do it as well Redbridge is not the only ward like this.[/p][/quote]oh, do stop bigging yourself and TUSC up. You only got 220 votes from an electorate of over 10,000 because the overwhelming vast majority of people in Redbridge reject you. It's absolutely nothing to do with fear, or the unions, or anything else. It's because your policies are impractical, unwanted and, frankly, quite loony.[/p][/quote]Did they or was it the fear card played that is played often by the major party's, and what,s up with you don't you want some else to give it a try the majors party's can't get things right and keep failing the people, they want change but keep getting oh you vote for them you let the other major win. And it was not rejection if it was the votes would of gone down for me and not up, its was going up because of the work I put in getting the message across in a small patch of an area at a time. Also the mass majority did not vote because they no longer believe in the political party,s and that,s the Majors party's that have done that to people again no rejection, just no faith in the political party's they think that they are all the same all out for what they can get for them self,s.[/p][/quote]With the deep political insight that you claim to have could you explain what threats were used by the 'Elvis loves Pets', 'Beer, Baccy & Crumpet' Party and the 'Monster Raving Loon'y Party to frighten the voters of Eastleigh away from voting for 'the Tusc' ? In the secrecy of the voting booth, it's just the voter with their slip and a pencil, no-one is forcing them to vote for any party that they don't want to and they clearly don't want to vote for 'the Tusc'. What part of this simple logic are you failing to understand? No-one wants you, just accept it.[/p][/quote]And what as Eastleigh MP Constituency By-Election got to do with Redbridge Ward come to think about it What,s it got to do with Southampton Council Election Nothing You do realise the difference don't you 1 is national the other is local and have you ever look at a map to find out the location of Eastleigh to relation to Redbridge Southampton, Or is it where you really live and why you keep brining up Eastleigh, you also forget that the TUSC is new political group/party and is doing well for a new group maybe to well for your liking. The concept of comparing Eastleigh Financial belt in by-election to a working class area as no comparison totally different way of the people in how they vote.[/p][/quote]When backed in to a corner introduce a range of variables to raise a smokescreen. It doesn't matter which election it is 'the Tusc' is being scrutinised by the electorate and found unelectable. As for being a new party, it isn't, it's a re-brand of a line of failures going back to the original (and unelectable) communist party of Great Britain. Staying with the theme of new party's, the same argument can be used by the Monster Raving Lonny party, the Beer, Baccy & Crumpet Party, the Elvis loves Pets party and all of the others that regularly leave 'the Tusc' trailing in their wake. You have no valid argument and no support other than the oddballs, failures and misfits.[/p][/quote]Are you saying you got back into a corner by introducing Eastleigh MP by election on the Financial belt, Your smoke screen no one else,s. When this article is about the Euro Elections and Local Election You do realise that there is no General Election this year that comes next year, And TUSC is not taking part in the Euro Elections but the No2EU is, TUSC is taking part in the Local Elections only or is that to advance for you. Now get your self into order talk about Local Elections or Euro Elections southy
  • Score: 0

11:45am Tue 20 May 14

skeptik says...

Lots of could have, might have, even should have. they did not and fair bet they will not.
Lots of could have, might have, even should have. they did not and fair bet they will not. skeptik
  • Score: 0

11:50am Tue 20 May 14

Torchie1 says...

southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
skeptik wrote:
When folk start saying you do not understand - listen to me I do! Problem with some of the minority parties who complain that if we listened to them we would support them. The evidence appears to be that most folk do not vote for them because they have listened.
I think you find they want to vote for them but the fear as been put into them by the major party,s, to stop them from supporting the minority,s by saying things like if you don't vote for us you let in the other majority,
What I am doing or what I said was this.

Half of the Labour Voters in the Redbridge Ward could vote for the TUSC and still win the Redbridge Ward, there would be no fear here in the Redbridge Ward of letting the Tory's win this seat.

Look at the last Election result for the Redbridge Ward.

Redbridge
Party Candidate Votes
Labour Lee Whitbread 1,775
Conservative Spandita Woodman 703
TUSC Pete Wyatt 220
Liberal Democrat Simon Stokes 182

Half of the Labour voters could off voted TUSC and still kept the Tory's out of the Redbridge ward.
Labour was playing the fear card last time round and they are doing it again, Tory,s do it as well
Redbridge is not the only ward like this.
oh, do stop bigging yourself and TUSC up.
You only got 220 votes from an electorate of over 10,000 because the overwhelming vast majority of people in Redbridge reject you.
It's absolutely nothing to do with fear, or the unions, or anything else.
It's because your policies are impractical, unwanted and, frankly, quite loony.
Did they or was it the fear card played that is played often by the major party's, and what,s up with you don't you want some else to give it a try the majors party's can't get things right and keep failing the people, they want change but keep getting oh you vote for them you let the other major win.
And it was not rejection if it was the votes would of gone down for me and not up, its was going up because of the work I put in getting the message across in a small patch of an area at a time.
Also the mass majority did not vote because they no longer believe in the political party,s and that,s the Majors party's that have done that to people again no rejection, just no faith in the political party's they think that they are all the same all out for what they can get for them self,s.
With the deep political insight that you claim to have could you explain what threats were used by the 'Elvis loves Pets', 'Beer, Baccy & Crumpet' Party and the 'Monster Raving Loon'y Party to frighten the voters of Eastleigh away from voting for 'the Tusc' ? In the secrecy of the voting booth, it's just the voter with their slip and a pencil, no-one is forcing them to vote for any party that they don't want to and they clearly don't want to vote for 'the Tusc'. What part of this simple logic are you failing to understand? No-one wants you, just accept it.
And what as Eastleigh MP Constituency By-Election got to do with Redbridge Ward come to think about it What,s it got to do with Southampton Council Election Nothing You do realise the difference don't you 1 is national the other is local and have you ever look at a map to find out the location of Eastleigh to relation to Redbridge Southampton, Or is it where you really live and why you keep brining up Eastleigh, you also forget that the TUSC is new political group/party and is doing well for a new group maybe to well for your liking.
The concept of comparing Eastleigh Financial belt in by-election to a working class area as no comparison totally different way of the people in how they vote.
When backed in to a corner introduce a range of variables to raise a smokescreen. It doesn't matter which election it is 'the Tusc' is being scrutinised by the electorate and found unelectable. As for being a new party, it isn't, it's a re-brand of a line of failures going back to the original (and unelectable) communist party of Great Britain. Staying with the theme of new party's, the same argument can be used by the Monster Raving Lonny party, the Beer, Baccy & Crumpet Party, the Elvis loves Pets party and all of the others that regularly leave 'the Tusc' trailing in their wake. You have no valid argument and no support other than the oddballs, failures and misfits.
Are you saying you got back into a corner by introducing Eastleigh MP by election on the Financial belt, Your smoke screen no one else,s. When this article is about the Euro Elections and Local Election You do realise that there is no General Election this year that comes next year,
And TUSC is not taking part in the Euro Elections but the No2EU is, TUSC is taking part in the Local Elections only or is that to advance for you.
Now get your self into order talk about Local Elections or Euro Elections
All you are really interested in raising an argument on the flimsiest excuse and you will continue to live in some sort of cloud cuckoo land where success only exists in your mind. Good luck and thanks for the entertainment that the excuses on May 23rd are certain to provide.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]skeptik[/bold] wrote: When folk start saying you do not understand - listen to me I do! Problem with some of the minority parties who complain that if we listened to them we would support them. The evidence appears to be that most folk do not vote for them because they have listened.[/p][/quote]I think you find they want to vote for them but the fear as been put into them by the major party,s, to stop them from supporting the minority,s by saying things like if you don't vote for us you let in the other majority, What I am doing or what I said was this. Half of the Labour Voters in the Redbridge Ward could vote for the TUSC and still win the Redbridge Ward, there would be no fear here in the Redbridge Ward of letting the Tory's win this seat. Look at the last Election result for the Redbridge Ward. Redbridge Party Candidate Votes Labour Lee Whitbread 1,775 Conservative Spandita Woodman 703 TUSC Pete Wyatt 220 Liberal Democrat Simon Stokes 182 Half of the Labour voters could off voted TUSC and still kept the Tory's out of the Redbridge ward. Labour was playing the fear card last time round and they are doing it again, Tory,s do it as well Redbridge is not the only ward like this.[/p][/quote]oh, do stop bigging yourself and TUSC up. You only got 220 votes from an electorate of over 10,000 because the overwhelming vast majority of people in Redbridge reject you. It's absolutely nothing to do with fear, or the unions, or anything else. It's because your policies are impractical, unwanted and, frankly, quite loony.[/p][/quote]Did they or was it the fear card played that is played often by the major party's, and what,s up with you don't you want some else to give it a try the majors party's can't get things right and keep failing the people, they want change but keep getting oh you vote for them you let the other major win. And it was not rejection if it was the votes would of gone down for me and not up, its was going up because of the work I put in getting the message across in a small patch of an area at a time. Also the mass majority did not vote because they no longer believe in the political party,s and that,s the Majors party's that have done that to people again no rejection, just no faith in the political party's they think that they are all the same all out for what they can get for them self,s.[/p][/quote]With the deep political insight that you claim to have could you explain what threats were used by the 'Elvis loves Pets', 'Beer, Baccy & Crumpet' Party and the 'Monster Raving Loon'y Party to frighten the voters of Eastleigh away from voting for 'the Tusc' ? In the secrecy of the voting booth, it's just the voter with their slip and a pencil, no-one is forcing them to vote for any party that they don't want to and they clearly don't want to vote for 'the Tusc'. What part of this simple logic are you failing to understand? No-one wants you, just accept it.[/p][/quote]And what as Eastleigh MP Constituency By-Election got to do with Redbridge Ward come to think about it What,s it got to do with Southampton Council Election Nothing You do realise the difference don't you 1 is national the other is local and have you ever look at a map to find out the location of Eastleigh to relation to Redbridge Southampton, Or is it where you really live and why you keep brining up Eastleigh, you also forget that the TUSC is new political group/party and is doing well for a new group maybe to well for your liking. The concept of comparing Eastleigh Financial belt in by-election to a working class area as no comparison totally different way of the people in how they vote.[/p][/quote]When backed in to a corner introduce a range of variables to raise a smokescreen. It doesn't matter which election it is 'the Tusc' is being scrutinised by the electorate and found unelectable. As for being a new party, it isn't, it's a re-brand of a line of failures going back to the original (and unelectable) communist party of Great Britain. Staying with the theme of new party's, the same argument can be used by the Monster Raving Lonny party, the Beer, Baccy & Crumpet Party, the Elvis loves Pets party and all of the others that regularly leave 'the Tusc' trailing in their wake. You have no valid argument and no support other than the oddballs, failures and misfits.[/p][/quote]Are you saying you got back into a corner by introducing Eastleigh MP by election on the Financial belt, Your smoke screen no one else,s. When this article is about the Euro Elections and Local Election You do realise that there is no General Election this year that comes next year, And TUSC is not taking part in the Euro Elections but the No2EU is, TUSC is taking part in the Local Elections only or is that to advance for you. Now get your self into order talk about Local Elections or Euro Elections[/p][/quote]All you are really interested in raising an argument on the flimsiest excuse and you will continue to live in some sort of cloud cuckoo land where success only exists in your mind. Good luck and thanks for the entertainment that the excuses on May 23rd are certain to provide. Torchie1
  • Score: 0

11:52am Tue 20 May 14

southy says...

I was looking for one for the Tory's and UKIP where it would not matter but there is not one.
Its only in Labour strong holds where it can be done and that comes down to 2 wards Redbridge where they can vote for TUSC and not worry about the Tory's and Coxford where they can vote for Independent (Councillor's against cuts) and not worry about the Tory's, So going on about splitting the Vote would not apply in these 2 wards, and to be saying it in these wards like is as been is just playing the fear card by the Labour Party.
I was looking for one for the Tory's and UKIP where it would not matter but there is not one. Its only in Labour strong holds where it can be done and that comes down to 2 wards Redbridge where they can vote for TUSC and not worry about the Tory's and Coxford where they can vote for Independent (Councillor's against cuts) and not worry about the Tory's, So going on about splitting the Vote would not apply in these 2 wards, and to be saying it in these wards like is as been is just playing the fear card by the Labour Party. southy
  • Score: -2

11:55am Tue 20 May 14

southy says...

skeptik wrote:
Lots of could have, might have, even should have. they did not and fair bet they will not.
you are more likely to be right well more right than Torchie1 who can't tell the difference between local and national and euro.
[quote][p][bold]skeptik[/bold] wrote: Lots of could have, might have, even should have. they did not and fair bet they will not.[/p][/quote]you are more likely to be right well more right than Torchie1 who can't tell the difference between local and national and euro. southy
  • Score: -2

1:28pm Tue 20 May 14

Torchie1 says...

Personal insults are as close as our de-selected politico will come to acknowledging that he has no answers to the awkward questions about 'the Tusc' failure to connect with the electorate.
Personal insults are as close as our de-selected politico will come to acknowledging that he has no answers to the awkward questions about 'the Tusc' failure to connect with the electorate. Torchie1
  • Score: 1

2:13pm Tue 20 May 14

Lone Ranger. says...

Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
skeptik wrote:
When folk start saying you do not understand - listen to me I do! Problem with some of the minority parties who complain that if we listened to them we would support them. The evidence appears to be that most folk do not vote for them because they have listened.
I think you find they want to vote for them but the fear as been put into them by the major party,s, to stop them from supporting the minority,s by saying things like if you don't vote for us you let in the other majority,
What I am doing or what I said was this.

Half of the Labour Voters in the Redbridge Ward could vote for the TUSC and still win the Redbridge Ward, there would be no fear here in the Redbridge Ward of letting the Tory's win this seat.

Look at the last Election result for the Redbridge Ward.

Redbridge
Party Candidate Votes
Labour Lee Whitbread 1,775
Conservative Spandita Woodman 703
TUSC Pete Wyatt 220
Liberal Democrat Simon Stokes 182

Half of the Labour voters could off voted TUSC and still kept the Tory's out of the Redbridge ward.
Labour was playing the fear card last time round and they are doing it again, Tory,s do it as well
Redbridge is not the only ward like this.
oh, do stop bigging yourself and TUSC up.
You only got 220 votes from an electorate of over 10,000 because the overwhelming vast majority of people in Redbridge reject you.
It's absolutely nothing to do with fear, or the unions, or anything else.
It's because your policies are impractical, unwanted and, frankly, quite loony.
Did they or was it the fear card played that is played often by the major party's, and what,s up with you don't you want some else to give it a try the majors party's can't get things right and keep failing the people, they want change but keep getting oh you vote for them you let the other major win.
And it was not rejection if it was the votes would of gone down for me and not up, its was going up because of the work I put in getting the message across in a small patch of an area at a time.
Also the mass majority did not vote because they no longer believe in the political party,s and that,s the Majors party's that have done that to people again no rejection, just no faith in the political party's they think that they are all the same all out for what they can get for them self,s.
With the deep political insight that you claim to have could you explain what threats were used by the 'Elvis loves Pets', 'Beer, Baccy & Crumpet' Party and the 'Monster Raving Loon'y Party to frighten the voters of Eastleigh away from voting for 'the Tusc' ? In the secrecy of the voting booth, it's just the voter with their slip and a pencil, no-one is forcing them to vote for any party that they don't want to and they clearly don't want to vote for 'the Tusc'. What part of this simple logic are you failing to understand? No-one wants you, just accept it.
And what as Eastleigh MP Constituency By-Election got to do with Redbridge Ward come to think about it What,s it got to do with Southampton Council Election Nothing You do realise the difference don't you 1 is national the other is local and have you ever look at a map to find out the location of Eastleigh to relation to Redbridge Southampton, Or is it where you really live and why you keep brining up Eastleigh, you also forget that the TUSC is new political group/party and is doing well for a new group maybe to well for your liking.
The concept of comparing Eastleigh Financial belt in by-election to a working class area as no comparison totally different way of the people in how they vote.
When backed in to a corner introduce a range of variables to raise a smokescreen. It doesn't matter which election it is 'the Tusc' is being scrutinised by the electorate and found unelectable. As for being a new party, it isn't, it's a re-brand of a line of failures going back to the original (and unelectable) communist party of Great Britain. Staying with the theme of new party's, the same argument can be used by the Monster Raving Lonny party, the Beer, Baccy & Crumpet Party, the Elvis loves Pets party and all of the others that regularly leave 'the Tusc' trailing in their wake. You have no valid argument and no support other than the oddballs, failures and misfits.
Are you saying you got back into a corner by introducing Eastleigh MP by election on the Financial belt, Your smoke screen no one else,s. When this article is about the Euro Elections and Local Election You do realise that there is no General Election this year that comes next year,
And TUSC is not taking part in the Euro Elections but the No2EU is, TUSC is taking part in the Local Elections only or is that to advance for you.
Now get your self into order talk about Local Elections or Euro Elections
All you are really interested in raising an argument on the flimsiest excuse and you will continue to live in some sort of cloud cuckoo land where success only exists in your mind. Good luck and thanks for the entertainment that the excuses on May 23rd are certain to provide.
Oh dear Torchie out done by Southy ..... hillarious ..... your not even debating the same election as he is ..... lmao
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]skeptik[/bold] wrote: When folk start saying you do not understand - listen to me I do! Problem with some of the minority parties who complain that if we listened to them we would support them. The evidence appears to be that most folk do not vote for them because they have listened.[/p][/quote]I think you find they want to vote for them but the fear as been put into them by the major party,s, to stop them from supporting the minority,s by saying things like if you don't vote for us you let in the other majority, What I am doing or what I said was this. Half of the Labour Voters in the Redbridge Ward could vote for the TUSC and still win the Redbridge Ward, there would be no fear here in the Redbridge Ward of letting the Tory's win this seat. Look at the last Election result for the Redbridge Ward. Redbridge Party Candidate Votes Labour Lee Whitbread 1,775 Conservative Spandita Woodman 703 TUSC Pete Wyatt 220 Liberal Democrat Simon Stokes 182 Half of the Labour voters could off voted TUSC and still kept the Tory's out of the Redbridge ward. Labour was playing the fear card last time round and they are doing it again, Tory,s do it as well Redbridge is not the only ward like this.[/p][/quote]oh, do stop bigging yourself and TUSC up. You only got 220 votes from an electorate of over 10,000 because the overwhelming vast majority of people in Redbridge reject you. It's absolutely nothing to do with fear, or the unions, or anything else. It's because your policies are impractical, unwanted and, frankly, quite loony.[/p][/quote]Did they or was it the fear card played that is played often by the major party's, and what,s up with you don't you want some else to give it a try the majors party's can't get things right and keep failing the people, they want change but keep getting oh you vote for them you let the other major win. And it was not rejection if it was the votes would of gone down for me and not up, its was going up because of the work I put in getting the message across in a small patch of an area at a time. Also the mass majority did not vote because they no longer believe in the political party,s and that,s the Majors party's that have done that to people again no rejection, just no faith in the political party's they think that they are all the same all out for what they can get for them self,s.[/p][/quote]With the deep political insight that you claim to have could you explain what threats were used by the 'Elvis loves Pets', 'Beer, Baccy & Crumpet' Party and the 'Monster Raving Loon'y Party to frighten the voters of Eastleigh away from voting for 'the Tusc' ? In the secrecy of the voting booth, it's just the voter with their slip and a pencil, no-one is forcing them to vote for any party that they don't want to and they clearly don't want to vote for 'the Tusc'. What part of this simple logic are you failing to understand? No-one wants you, just accept it.[/p][/quote]And what as Eastleigh MP Constituency By-Election got to do with Redbridge Ward come to think about it What,s it got to do with Southampton Council Election Nothing You do realise the difference don't you 1 is national the other is local and have you ever look at a map to find out the location of Eastleigh to relation to Redbridge Southampton, Or is it where you really live and why you keep brining up Eastleigh, you also forget that the TUSC is new political group/party and is doing well for a new group maybe to well for your liking. The concept of comparing Eastleigh Financial belt in by-election to a working class area as no comparison totally different way of the people in how they vote.[/p][/quote]When backed in to a corner introduce a range of variables to raise a smokescreen. It doesn't matter which election it is 'the Tusc' is being scrutinised by the electorate and found unelectable. As for being a new party, it isn't, it's a re-brand of a line of failures going back to the original (and unelectable) communist party of Great Britain. Staying with the theme of new party's, the same argument can be used by the Monster Raving Lonny party, the Beer, Baccy & Crumpet Party, the Elvis loves Pets party and all of the others that regularly leave 'the Tusc' trailing in their wake. You have no valid argument and no support other than the oddballs, failures and misfits.[/p][/quote]Are you saying you got back into a corner by introducing Eastleigh MP by election on the Financial belt, Your smoke screen no one else,s. When this article is about the Euro Elections and Local Election You do realise that there is no General Election this year that comes next year, And TUSC is not taking part in the Euro Elections but the No2EU is, TUSC is taking part in the Local Elections only or is that to advance for you. Now get your self into order talk about Local Elections or Euro Elections[/p][/quote]All you are really interested in raising an argument on the flimsiest excuse and you will continue to live in some sort of cloud cuckoo land where success only exists in your mind. Good luck and thanks for the entertainment that the excuses on May 23rd are certain to provide.[/p][/quote]Oh dear Torchie out done by Southy ..... hillarious ..... your not even debating the same election as he is ..... lmao Lone Ranger.
  • Score: -1

6:26pm Tue 20 May 14

Datarater says...

Vote UKIP in the EU elections to get all the parities focused on sorting out the EU,

Vote anything but Labour in your local elections. Labour took away the pensioner reduction in council tax and reinstated the 2.5% for council managers which paid for it.. The council is stiil implementing the developmental changes in Southampton which the Conservatives instigated. Labour has not had a single idea besides feathering their own nest
Vote UKIP in the EU elections to get all the parities focused on sorting out the EU, Vote anything but Labour in your local elections. Labour took away the pensioner reduction in council tax and reinstated the 2.5% for council managers which paid for it.. The council is stiil implementing the developmental changes in Southampton which the Conservatives instigated. Labour has not had a single idea besides feathering their own nest Datarater
  • Score: -2

7:55pm Tue 20 May 14

Lone Ranger. says...

Datarater wrote:
Vote UKIP in the EU elections to get all the parities focused on sorting out the EU,

Vote anything but Labour in your local elections. Labour took away the pensioner reduction in council tax and reinstated the 2.5% for council managers which paid for it.. The council is stiil implementing the developmental changes in Southampton which the Conservatives instigated. Labour has not had a single idea besides feathering their own nest
.......... And all of the ideas of the failed Tory council are as follows ....... ( that means over to you Dearater )
.
Ill start you off ...... Ready ! .... No1 .... there you go .............
[quote][p][bold]Datarater[/bold] wrote: Vote UKIP in the EU elections to get all the parities focused on sorting out the EU, Vote anything but Labour in your local elections. Labour took away the pensioner reduction in council tax and reinstated the 2.5% for council managers which paid for it.. The council is stiil implementing the developmental changes in Southampton which the Conservatives instigated. Labour has not had a single idea besides feathering their own nest[/p][/quote].......... And all of the ideas of the failed Tory council are as follows ....... ( that means over to you Dearater ) . Ill start you off ...... Ready ! .... No1 .... there you go ............. Lone Ranger.
  • Score: 0

8:15pm Tue 20 May 14

Torchie1 says...

Lone Ranger. wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
skeptik wrote:
When folk start saying you do not understand - listen to me I do! Problem with some of the minority parties who complain that if we listened to them we would support them. The evidence appears to be that most folk do not vote for them because they have listened.
I think you find they want to vote for them but the fear as been put into them by the major party,s, to stop them from supporting the minority,s by saying things like if you don't vote for us you let in the other majority,
What I am doing or what I said was this.

Half of the Labour Voters in the Redbridge Ward could vote for the TUSC and still win the Redbridge Ward, there would be no fear here in the Redbridge Ward of letting the Tory's win this seat.

Look at the last Election result for the Redbridge Ward.

Redbridge
Party Candidate Votes
Labour Lee Whitbread 1,775
Conservative Spandita Woodman 703
TUSC Pete Wyatt 220
Liberal Democrat Simon Stokes 182

Half of the Labour voters could off voted TUSC and still kept the Tory's out of the Redbridge ward.
Labour was playing the fear card last time round and they are doing it again, Tory,s do it as well
Redbridge is not the only ward like this.
oh, do stop bigging yourself and TUSC up.
You only got 220 votes from an electorate of over 10,000 because the overwhelming vast majority of people in Redbridge reject you.
It's absolutely nothing to do with fear, or the unions, or anything else.
It's because your policies are impractical, unwanted and, frankly, quite loony.
Did they or was it the fear card played that is played often by the major party's, and what,s up with you don't you want some else to give it a try the majors party's can't get things right and keep failing the people, they want change but keep getting oh you vote for them you let the other major win.
And it was not rejection if it was the votes would of gone down for me and not up, its was going up because of the work I put in getting the message across in a small patch of an area at a time.
Also the mass majority did not vote because they no longer believe in the political party,s and that,s the Majors party's that have done that to people again no rejection, just no faith in the political party's they think that they are all the same all out for what they can get for them self,s.
With the deep political insight that you claim to have could you explain what threats were used by the 'Elvis loves Pets', 'Beer, Baccy & Crumpet' Party and the 'Monster Raving Loon'y Party to frighten the voters of Eastleigh away from voting for 'the Tusc' ? In the secrecy of the voting booth, it's just the voter with their slip and a pencil, no-one is forcing them to vote for any party that they don't want to and they clearly don't want to vote for 'the Tusc'. What part of this simple logic are you failing to understand? No-one wants you, just accept it.
And what as Eastleigh MP Constituency By-Election got to do with Redbridge Ward come to think about it What,s it got to do with Southampton Council Election Nothing You do realise the difference don't you 1 is national the other is local and have you ever look at a map to find out the location of Eastleigh to relation to Redbridge Southampton, Or is it where you really live and why you keep brining up Eastleigh, you also forget that the TUSC is new political group/party and is doing well for a new group maybe to well for your liking.
The concept of comparing Eastleigh Financial belt in by-election to a working class area as no comparison totally different way of the people in how they vote.
When backed in to a corner introduce a range of variables to raise a smokescreen. It doesn't matter which election it is 'the Tusc' is being scrutinised by the electorate and found unelectable. As for being a new party, it isn't, it's a re-brand of a line of failures going back to the original (and unelectable) communist party of Great Britain. Staying with the theme of new party's, the same argument can be used by the Monster Raving Lonny party, the Beer, Baccy & Crumpet Party, the Elvis loves Pets party and all of the others that regularly leave 'the Tusc' trailing in their wake. You have no valid argument and no support other than the oddballs, failures and misfits.
Are you saying you got back into a corner by introducing Eastleigh MP by election on the Financial belt, Your smoke screen no one else,s. When this article is about the Euro Elections and Local Election You do realise that there is no General Election this year that comes next year,
And TUSC is not taking part in the Euro Elections but the No2EU is, TUSC is taking part in the Local Elections only or is that to advance for you.
Now get your self into order talk about Local Elections or Euro Elections
All you are really interested in raising an argument on the flimsiest excuse and you will continue to live in some sort of cloud cuckoo land where success only exists in your mind. Good luck and thanks for the entertainment that the excuses on May 23rd are certain to provide.
Oh dear Torchie out done by Southy ..... hillarious ..... your not even debating the same election as he is ..... lmao
Only in your mind I'm afraid but then again you'll forgive a socialist halfwit anything, won't you?
[quote][p][bold]Lone Ranger.[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]skeptik[/bold] wrote: When folk start saying you do not understand - listen to me I do! Problem with some of the minority parties who complain that if we listened to them we would support them. The evidence appears to be that most folk do not vote for them because they have listened.[/p][/quote]I think you find they want to vote for them but the fear as been put into them by the major party,s, to stop them from supporting the minority,s by saying things like if you don't vote for us you let in the other majority, What I am doing or what I said was this. Half of the Labour Voters in the Redbridge Ward could vote for the TUSC and still win the Redbridge Ward, there would be no fear here in the Redbridge Ward of letting the Tory's win this seat. Look at the last Election result for the Redbridge Ward. Redbridge Party Candidate Votes Labour Lee Whitbread 1,775 Conservative Spandita Woodman 703 TUSC Pete Wyatt 220 Liberal Democrat Simon Stokes 182 Half of the Labour voters could off voted TUSC and still kept the Tory's out of the Redbridge ward. Labour was playing the fear card last time round and they are doing it again, Tory,s do it as well Redbridge is not the only ward like this.[/p][/quote]oh, do stop bigging yourself and TUSC up. You only got 220 votes from an electorate of over 10,000 because the overwhelming vast majority of people in Redbridge reject you. It's absolutely nothing to do with fear, or the unions, or anything else. It's because your policies are impractical, unwanted and, frankly, quite loony.[/p][/quote]Did they or was it the fear card played that is played often by the major party's, and what,s up with you don't you want some else to give it a try the majors party's can't get things right and keep failing the people, they want change but keep getting oh you vote for them you let the other major win. And it was not rejection if it was the votes would of gone down for me and not up, its was going up because of the work I put in getting the message across in a small patch of an area at a time. Also the mass majority did not vote because they no longer believe in the political party,s and that,s the Majors party's that have done that to people again no rejection, just no faith in the political party's they think that they are all the same all out for what they can get for them self,s.[/p][/quote]With the deep political insight that you claim to have could you explain what threats were used by the 'Elvis loves Pets', 'Beer, Baccy & Crumpet' Party and the 'Monster Raving Loon'y Party to frighten the voters of Eastleigh away from voting for 'the Tusc' ? In the secrecy of the voting booth, it's just the voter with their slip and a pencil, no-one is forcing them to vote for any party that they don't want to and they clearly don't want to vote for 'the Tusc'. What part of this simple logic are you failing to understand? No-one wants you, just accept it.[/p][/quote]And what as Eastleigh MP Constituency By-Election got to do with Redbridge Ward come to think about it What,s it got to do with Southampton Council Election Nothing You do realise the difference don't you 1 is national the other is local and have you ever look at a map to find out the location of Eastleigh to relation to Redbridge Southampton, Or is it where you really live and why you keep brining up Eastleigh, you also forget that the TUSC is new political group/party and is doing well for a new group maybe to well for your liking. The concept of comparing Eastleigh Financial belt in by-election to a working class area as no comparison totally different way of the people in how they vote.[/p][/quote]When backed in to a corner introduce a range of variables to raise a smokescreen. It doesn't matter which election it is 'the Tusc' is being scrutinised by the electorate and found unelectable. As for being a new party, it isn't, it's a re-brand of a line of failures going back to the original (and unelectable) communist party of Great Britain. Staying with the theme of new party's, the same argument can be used by the Monster Raving Lonny party, the Beer, Baccy & Crumpet Party, the Elvis loves Pets party and all of the others that regularly leave 'the Tusc' trailing in their wake. You have no valid argument and no support other than the oddballs, failures and misfits.[/p][/quote]Are you saying you got back into a corner by introducing Eastleigh MP by election on the Financial belt, Your smoke screen no one else,s. When this article is about the Euro Elections and Local Election You do realise that there is no General Election this year that comes next year, And TUSC is not taking part in the Euro Elections but the No2EU is, TUSC is taking part in the Local Elections only or is that to advance for you. Now get your self into order talk about Local Elections or Euro Elections[/p][/quote]All you are really interested in raising an argument on the flimsiest excuse and you will continue to live in some sort of cloud cuckoo land where success only exists in your mind. Good luck and thanks for the entertainment that the excuses on May 23rd are certain to provide.[/p][/quote]Oh dear Torchie out done by Southy ..... hillarious ..... your not even debating the same election as he is ..... lmao[/p][/quote]Only in your mind I'm afraid but then again you'll forgive a socialist halfwit anything, won't you? Torchie1
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9:10pm Tue 20 May 14

southy says...

Lone Ranger
First Ironlady now Torchie takes a battering who next in line
Lone Ranger First Ironlady now Torchie takes a battering who next in line southy
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10:43pm Tue 20 May 14

freefinker says...

southy wrote:
Lone Ranger
First Ironlady now Torchie takes a battering who next in line
.. actually, I think it's you that's taking the battering; as usual.
But delusional behaviour seems to be par for the course.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: Lone Ranger First Ironlady now Torchie takes a battering who next in line[/p][/quote].. actually, I think it's you that's taking the battering; as usual. But delusional behaviour seems to be par for the course. freefinker
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