Popular Hamble pub to be demolished and replaced with flats

The Harrier Inn

The Harrier Inn

First published in News

A THRIVING community pub is set to be knocked down and replaced with 26 retirement flats.

Councillors were jeered as they “reluctantly” voted to approve plans to demolish the Harrier Inn, in Hamble last night.

They said they had little choice but to accept McCarthy and Stone Retirement Lifestyle's bid, as even if they had turned it down, the site would be turned into a convenience store without needing planning permission.

At least two national supermarket firms were interested in buying the site and turning it into a convenience store, the meeting heard.

As reported by the Daily Echo, pub owner Enterprise Inns wanted to sell the site as it would more profitable to sell it for use as retirement flats or a store than allow it to remain a pub.

Eastleigh Borough Council's Bursledon, Hamble and Hound Local Area Committee heard the pub in Hamble Lane was “extremely busy” and had seen a big increase in trade in the past 18 months.

A petition against the application had 650 signatures, while 25 objections were made to the planning application.

At last night's meeting at Hamble Primary School, head chef Tracey Vann described it as the “heart and soul of the community”.

Eleven-year-old Amber-Rose Williams implored the committee to reject the proposals, saying they would “destroy a much-loved community pub”.

Her dad, Mark Williams, died from a brain tumour aged just 40 last year, and the pub held an event in memory of him and to fund research into tumours earlier this year.

Councillors on the committee described it as one of the toughest decisions they had ever had to make, but eventually voted to approve the application by three votes to one.

Afterwards Ms Vann said the decision was “heartbreaking”, while resident Steph Bowyer said losing the pub would be a “huge miss for the community”.

No details have been released yet on when the pub will close and work will start.

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10:13am Tue 22 Jul 14

sparkster says...

0h what a surprise, yet more flats
0h what a surprise, yet more flats sparkster
  • Score: 6

2:42pm Tue 22 Jul 14

IronLady2010 says...

sparkster wrote:
0h what a surprise, yet more flats
The thing is, there must be a demand for flats?
It's all supply and demand.
[quote][p][bold]sparkster[/bold] wrote: 0h what a surprise, yet more flats[/p][/quote]The thing is, there must be a demand for flats? It's all supply and demand. IronLady2010
  • Score: 0

2:54pm Tue 22 Jul 14

xxjewels26xx says...

At the end of the day people don't "need" pubs and alcohol but they do "need" accommodation. The Station pub in netley made way for houses with no problems for people wanting to go for a drink as there are other facilities around, so why not I say.
At the end of the day people don't "need" pubs and alcohol but they do "need" accommodation. The Station pub in netley made way for houses with no problems for people wanting to go for a drink as there are other facilities around, so why not I say. xxjewels26xx
  • Score: -8

4:19pm Tue 22 Jul 14

03alpe01 says...

If it was so popular, why did it close?
If it was so popular, why did it close? 03alpe01
  • Score: 1

5:49pm Tue 22 Jul 14

Saintly Sam says...

03alpe01 wrote:
If it was so popular, why did it close?
As it says in the article ....
As reported by the Daily Echo, pub owner Enterprise Inns wanted to sell the site as it would more profitable to sell it for use as retirement flats or a store than allow it to remain a pub.


The owners do not care about the community, all they care about is making an instant profit.
Short sighted business practice, and another local is no more.
[quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: If it was so popular, why did it close?[/p][/quote]As it says in the article ....[quote]As reported by the Daily Echo, pub owner Enterprise Inns wanted to sell the site as it would more profitable to sell it for use as retirement flats or a store than allow it to remain a pub. [/quote] The owners do not care about the community, all they care about is making an instant profit. Short sighted business practice, and another local is no more. Saintly Sam
  • Score: 6

5:50pm Tue 22 Jul 14

skeptik says...

Popular does not always mean profitable - especially for the lads and lasses trying to run pubs - UK shareholders are in it for the quick buck - sell and run - been like that for some years now.
Popular does not always mean profitable - especially for the lads and lasses trying to run pubs - UK shareholders are in it for the quick buck - sell and run - been like that for some years now. skeptik
  • Score: 4

5:54pm Tue 22 Jul 14

Lone Ranger. says...

Saintly Sam wrote:
03alpe01 wrote:
If it was so popular, why did it close?
As it says in the article ....
As reported by the Daily Echo, pub owner Enterprise Inns wanted to sell the site as it would more profitable to sell it for use as retirement flats or a store than allow it to remain a pub.


The owners do not care about the community, all they care about is making an instant profit.
Short sighted business practice, and another local is no more.
Nothing short sighted about it at all ...
.
The plot of land has been sold and taken a property off the books of Enterprise ..... and to top it all probably £500k ... popular or not its business
[quote][p][bold]Saintly Sam[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]03alpe01[/bold] wrote: If it was so popular, why did it close?[/p][/quote]As it says in the article ....[quote]As reported by the Daily Echo, pub owner Enterprise Inns wanted to sell the site as it would more profitable to sell it for use as retirement flats or a store than allow it to remain a pub. [/quote] The owners do not care about the community, all they care about is making an instant profit. Short sighted business practice, and another local is no more.[/p][/quote]Nothing short sighted about it at all ... . The plot of land has been sold and taken a property off the books of Enterprise ..... and to top it all probably £500k ... popular or not its business Lone Ranger.
  • Score: 2

6:10pm Tue 22 Jul 14

sydneyfarm says...

Enterprise are property developers under the guise of a pub owner who just want to make a fast buck, simple as that.
The pub was popular but not as much as others in Hamble due to its location, i.e. not being near the river. It is also profitable, but unfortunately not enough profit for Enterprise.
Which Hampshire pub or club with housing or flat poential is next for the developer. Sholing ,Hound, Netley have lost too many pubs to developers.
Enterprise are property developers under the guise of a pub owner who just want to make a fast buck, simple as that. The pub was popular but not as much as others in Hamble due to its location, i.e. not being near the river. It is also profitable, but unfortunately not enough profit for Enterprise. Which Hampshire pub or club with housing or flat poential is next for the developer. Sholing ,Hound, Netley have lost too many pubs to developers. sydneyfarm
  • Score: 5

4:22pm Wed 23 Jul 14

derek james says...

the answer is in the locals hands 500 people stumping up a grand each could buy it (there were 650 petitioners) hamble is quite a well heeled area.there's other costs in running t but if it makes a profit all well and good
the answer is in the locals hands 500 people stumping up a grand each could buy it (there were 650 petitioners) hamble is quite a well heeled area.there's other costs in running t but if it makes a profit all well and good derek james
  • Score: -1

7:42pm Wed 23 Jul 14

Schmeggles says...

derek james wrote:
the answer is in the locals hands 500 people stumping up a grand each could buy it (there were 650 petitioners) hamble is quite a well heeled area.there's other costs in running t but if it makes a profit all well and good
You obviously don't know the clientele of that particularly delightful watering hole, I doubt they could drum up £500 never mind £500k!
[quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: the answer is in the locals hands 500 people stumping up a grand each could buy it (there were 650 petitioners) hamble is quite a well heeled area.there's other costs in running t but if it makes a profit all well and good[/p][/quote]You obviously don't know the clientele of that particularly delightful watering hole, I doubt they could drum up £500 never mind £500k! Schmeggles
  • Score: -5

8:14am Thu 24 Jul 14

LaurenG86 says...

Schmeggles wrote:
derek james wrote:
the answer is in the locals hands 500 people stumping up a grand each could buy it (there were 650 petitioners) hamble is quite a well heeled area.there's other costs in running t but if it makes a profit all well and good
You obviously don't know the clientele of that particularly delightful watering hole, I doubt they could drum up £500 never mind £500k!
You also obviously don't know of the clientele in my 'delightful wateringhole' , I've been running the Harrier for the past 16 months and in that time I have not experienced one ounce of trouble - the pub has a stigma about it being a drug den - that was years ago! Before you form your opinions maybe you should visit on a weds or thurs afternoon, when the local elderly are joining friends for their £5 oap lunches - many of whom is their only opportunity to get out of the house, or a Sunday lunch time where all of our families meet up for Sunday roast. Where will they go now? Before stating your opinions know your facts. Not only are my loyal local customers about to lose their pub where many have been socalising in for over 30 years, I'm about to lose my job AND my home.
[quote][p][bold]Schmeggles[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: the answer is in the locals hands 500 people stumping up a grand each could buy it (there were 650 petitioners) hamble is quite a well heeled area.there's other costs in running t but if it makes a profit all well and good[/p][/quote]You obviously don't know the clientele of that particularly delightful watering hole, I doubt they could drum up £500 never mind £500k![/p][/quote]You also obviously don't know of the clientele in my 'delightful wateringhole' , I've been running the Harrier for the past 16 months and in that time I have not experienced one ounce of trouble - the pub has a stigma about it being a drug den - that was years ago! Before you form your opinions maybe you should visit on a weds or thurs afternoon, when the local elderly are joining friends for their £5 oap lunches - many of whom is their only opportunity to get out of the house, or a Sunday lunch time where all of our families meet up for Sunday roast. Where will they go now? Before stating your opinions know your facts. Not only are my loyal local customers about to lose their pub where many have been socalising in for over 30 years, I'm about to lose my job AND my home. LaurenG86
  • Score: 5

12:50pm Thu 24 Jul 14

sydneyfarm says...

Schmeggles you must be a complete tool.
There are affluent people who have and continue to use the pub, some of them even own their own homes and cars which will probably shock you as you must be very narrow minded and never used the place. A person with money certainly doesn`t make them any better than people without it. They tend to just make aloof comments like you did.
Schmeggles you must be a complete tool. There are affluent people who have and continue to use the pub, some of them even own their own homes and cars which will probably shock you as you must be very narrow minded and never used the place. A person with money certainly doesn`t make them any better than people without it. They tend to just make aloof comments like you did. sydneyfarm
  • Score: 7

1:00pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Rowhedger says...

This report really saddens me, as my former local is being demolished for retirement flats. This was the pub, I experienced my fist pint 1956 ea. Celebrated my 21st there in in 1960. Recently, the same pub that I and my son, had a delightful meal there, in the exact spot, some 50 odd years later. The campaign was on going then, and I felt sure it would be successful, so sad. Whilst it is true, people need accommodation more than alcohol, but heritage is equally important.
This report really saddens me, as my former local is being demolished for retirement flats. This was the pub, I experienced my fist pint 1956 ea. Celebrated my 21st there in in 1960. Recently, the same pub that I and my son, had a delightful meal there, in the exact spot, some 50 odd years later. The campaign was on going then, and I felt sure it would be successful, so sad. Whilst it is true, people need accommodation more than alcohol, but heritage is equally important. Rowhedger
  • Score: 2

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