Ryan Moger, 21, admitted charges of child abduction, blackmail and fraud

Man escapes jail over child abduction charge

Man escapes jail over child abduction charge

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A MAN who struck up a relationship with a 15-year-old schoolgirl after committing a string of offences while on licence has walked free from court.

Ryan Moger grinned in the dock at Southampton Crown Court after a judge ruled he should be given a “final chance”.

Moger, of Vine Road, was answering charges of child abduction, blackmail and fraud, all committed while serving a suspended sentence for involvement in a burglary.

The 21-year-old, who has severe learning difficulties, admitted the charges.

The court heard how authorities had already warned Moger of the inappropriateness of his relationship with the girl – who cannot be identified for legal reasons – who he had been seeing for four months.

But on October 30 last year police went to his house after the girl’s mother reported her missing.

Moger was arrested after officers found her hiding on the roof after locking herself in the bathroom.

Prosecutor Siobhan Linsley told how the couple were “extremely distressed” at being separated, adding: “She said she wanted to stay with him because he kept her safe.”

The court heard how three months previously Moger twice threatened and verbally abused a 17-year-old boy for hugging the same girl. He hid a can of lager under his coat, pretending it was a gun, and tried to force the boy to buy him alcohol.

Ms Linley said the boy managed to escape, but was “too frightened” to leave home afterwards.

Two weeks later Moger was arrested again after attempting to use a stolen debit card to purchase a car worth £1,400, the court heard.

In mitigation Ximena Jones for Moger, stressed her client’s learning difficulties meant he had a mental age similar to the girl and said: “We are not dealing with an older manipulative man”

She added his condition made him less able to grasp the conditions of his suspended sentence in relation to the other offences and that he had already been remanded in jail for nine months.

Judge Derwin Hope imposed a two-year prison sentence suspended for two years telling him: “I am prepared to give you a final chance.

“But I make it clear to you that if you carry on offending you will be facing further custody again.”

Moger was also ordered to complete 70 hours’ unpaid work and pay a £120 victim surcharge.

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10:54am Sun 3 Aug 14

normal1965 says...

what a complete joke.english justice is comical
what a complete joke.english justice is comical normal1965
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11:58am Sun 3 Aug 14

SNUGGLES 78 says...

normal1965 wrote:
what a complete joke.english justice is comical
england is a sad joke ,full stop.
[quote][p][bold]normal1965[/bold] wrote: what a complete joke.english justice is comical[/p][/quote]england is a sad joke ,full stop. SNUGGLES 78
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12:59pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Mary80 says...

A final chance? He clearly can't control himself
A final chance? He clearly can't control himself Mary80
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4:50pm Sun 3 Aug 14

MyaBrinks says...

Get a grip, the boy is hardly a sex offender if he has the mental age of a 15 year old?! Sounds to me like he's had a bad upbringing and lost his way in life. He needs debilitation and support rather than just writing him off at the age of 21. Besides the gf was a willing participant in all of this, so you can hardly call it abduction???!!
Get a grip, the boy is hardly a sex offender if he has the mental age of a 15 year old?! Sounds to me like he's had a bad upbringing and lost his way in life. He needs debilitation and support rather than just writing him off at the age of 21. Besides the gf was a willing participant in all of this, so you can hardly call it abduction???!! MyaBrinks
  • Score: 7

4:54pm Sun 3 Aug 14

MyaBrinks says...

*rebilitation
*rebilitation MyaBrinks
  • Score: 1

5:40pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Mary80 says...

MyaBrinks wrote:
Get a grip, the boy is hardly a sex offender if he has the mental age of a 15 year old?! Sounds to me like he's had a bad upbringing and lost his way in life. He needs debilitation and support rather than just writing him off at the age of 21. Besides the gf was a willing participant in all of this, so you can hardly call it abduction???!!
Lots of people have rough childhoods they don't abduct children, don't even dare make excuses for his behaviour. A bad upbringing is not a blank cheque to turn into a scumbag
[quote][p][bold]MyaBrinks[/bold] wrote: Get a grip, the boy is hardly a sex offender if he has the mental age of a 15 year old?! Sounds to me like he's had a bad upbringing and lost his way in life. He needs debilitation and support rather than just writing him off at the age of 21. Besides the gf was a willing participant in all of this, so you can hardly call it abduction???!![/p][/quote]Lots of people have rough childhoods they don't abduct children, don't even dare make excuses for his behaviour. A bad upbringing is not a blank cheque to turn into a scumbag Mary80
  • Score: 2

5:52pm Sun 3 Aug 14

thinklikealocal says...

When considering the crime that has been committed, and what penalty is appropriate, our justice system considers all mitigating factors. Clearly there were some in this case. I hope this young man gets the support he needs to start to understand more clearly what it right and wrong and how he must conduct himself. The biggest tragedy will be if he doesn't get that support.
When considering the crime that has been committed, and what penalty is appropriate, our justice system considers all mitigating factors. Clearly there were some in this case. I hope this young man gets the support he needs to start to understand more clearly what it right and wrong and how he must conduct himself. The biggest tragedy will be if he doesn't get that support. thinklikealocal
  • Score: 2

6:08pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Inform Al says...

I do wonder sometimes which side of the bench the slow learner is seated.
I do wonder sometimes which side of the bench the slow learner is seated. Inform Al
  • Score: 1

6:22pm Sun 3 Aug 14

MyaBrinks says...

Mary80 wrote:
MyaBrinks wrote:
Get a grip, the boy is hardly a sex offender if he has the mental age of a 15 year old?! Sounds to me like he's had a bad upbringing and lost his way in life. He needs debilitation and support rather than just writing him off at the age of 21. Besides the gf was a willing participant in all of this, so you can hardly call it abduction???!!
Lots of people have rough childhoods they don't abduct children, don't even dare make excuses for his behaviour. A bad upbringing is not a blank cheque to turn into a scumbag
He's not your typical lad with a rough childhood is he you sheep!! He has mental issues which makes him a lot younger than his actual years. He didn't abduct her she chose to hide out at his home, have u never been young and in love. Look at the wider picture instead of being so **** judgemental.
[quote][p][bold]Mary80[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MyaBrinks[/bold] wrote: Get a grip, the boy is hardly a sex offender if he has the mental age of a 15 year old?! Sounds to me like he's had a bad upbringing and lost his way in life. He needs debilitation and support rather than just writing him off at the age of 21. Besides the gf was a willing participant in all of this, so you can hardly call it abduction???!![/p][/quote]Lots of people have rough childhoods they don't abduct children, don't even dare make excuses for his behaviour. A bad upbringing is not a blank cheque to turn into a scumbag[/p][/quote]He's not your typical lad with a rough childhood is he you sheep!! He has mental issues which makes him a lot younger than his actual years. He didn't abduct her she chose to hide out at his home, have u never been young and in love. Look at the wider picture instead of being so **** judgemental. MyaBrinks
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7:26pm Sun 3 Aug 14

thinklikealocal says...

MyaBrinks wrote:
Mary80 wrote:
MyaBrinks wrote:
Get a grip, the boy is hardly a sex offender if he has the mental age of a 15 year old?! Sounds to me like he's had a bad upbringing and lost his way in life. He needs debilitation and support rather than just writing him off at the age of 21. Besides the gf was a willing participant in all of this, so you can hardly call it abduction???!!
Lots of people have rough childhoods they don't abduct children, don't even dare make excuses for his behaviour. A bad upbringing is not a blank cheque to turn into a scumbag
He's not your typical lad with a rough childhood is he you sheep!! He has mental issues which makes him a lot younger than his actual years. He didn't abduct her she chose to hide out at his home, have u never been young and in love. Look at the wider picture instead of being so **** judgemental.
Mya,

When faced with this lunacy from the 'string them up brigade', try and remember that it takes much less effort to condem and flog than to support and understand.
[quote][p][bold]MyaBrinks[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Mary80[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MyaBrinks[/bold] wrote: Get a grip, the boy is hardly a sex offender if he has the mental age of a 15 year old?! Sounds to me like he's had a bad upbringing and lost his way in life. He needs debilitation and support rather than just writing him off at the age of 21. Besides the gf was a willing participant in all of this, so you can hardly call it abduction???!![/p][/quote]Lots of people have rough childhoods they don't abduct children, don't even dare make excuses for his behaviour. A bad upbringing is not a blank cheque to turn into a scumbag[/p][/quote]He's not your typical lad with a rough childhood is he you sheep!! He has mental issues which makes him a lot younger than his actual years. He didn't abduct her she chose to hide out at his home, have u never been young and in love. Look at the wider picture instead of being so **** judgemental.[/p][/quote]Mya, When faced with this lunacy from the 'string them up brigade', try and remember that it takes much less effort to condem and flog than to support and understand. thinklikealocal
  • Score: 3

12:09am Mon 4 Aug 14

mevad1 says...

Y dont you all **** leave him alone, i know him very well and the girl was to blame as well as she was infatuated by him and partly to blame. Maybe ppl want to understand the problems this lad has faced over these past 2 years and do one
Y dont you all **** leave him alone, i know him very well and the girl was to blame as well as she was infatuated by him and partly to blame. Maybe ppl want to understand the problems this lad has faced over these past 2 years and do one mevad1
  • Score: 1

12:09am Mon 4 Aug 14

mevad1 says...

Y dont you all **** leave him alone, i know him very well and the girl was to blame as well as she was infatuated by him and partly to blame. Maybe ppl want to understand the problems this lad has faced over these past 2 years and do one
Y dont you all **** leave him alone, i know him very well and the girl was to blame as well as she was infatuated by him and partly to blame. Maybe ppl want to understand the problems this lad has faced over these past 2 years and do one mevad1
  • Score: 0

12:25am Mon 4 Aug 14

downfader says...

Mary80 wrote:
MyaBrinks wrote:
Get a grip, the boy is hardly a sex offender if he has the mental age of a 15 year old?! Sounds to me like he's had a bad upbringing and lost his way in life. He needs debilitation and support rather than just writing him off at the age of 21. Besides the gf was a willing participant in all of this, so you can hardly call it abduction???!!
Lots of people have rough childhoods they don't abduct children, don't even dare make excuses for his behaviour. A bad upbringing is not a blank cheque to turn into a scumbag
Whilst usually I would agree with you on that: this is not a typical situation of an average intellect. The article clearly states that the defense recognised his learning difficulties. I've worked with people of such difficulties and they can be easily lead. They can also be very impetuous in the way children want things quickly, but with the right input they can learn and can be very good members of society. In fact most are.

This reads like this lad needs guidance. Proper support (dont forget our local social services have been cut down to the marrow, not even the bone & that will have had an effect).
[quote][p][bold]Mary80[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MyaBrinks[/bold] wrote: Get a grip, the boy is hardly a sex offender if he has the mental age of a 15 year old?! Sounds to me like he's had a bad upbringing and lost his way in life. He needs debilitation and support rather than just writing him off at the age of 21. Besides the gf was a willing participant in all of this, so you can hardly call it abduction???!![/p][/quote]Lots of people have rough childhoods they don't abduct children, don't even dare make excuses for his behaviour. A bad upbringing is not a blank cheque to turn into a scumbag[/p][/quote]Whilst usually I would agree with you on that: this is not a typical situation of an average intellect. The article clearly states that the defense recognised his learning difficulties. I've worked with people of such difficulties and they can be easily lead. They can also be very impetuous in the way children want things quickly, but with the right input they can learn and can be very good members of society. In fact most are. This reads like this lad needs guidance. Proper support (dont forget our local social services have been cut down to the marrow, not even the bone & that will have had an effect). downfader
  • Score: 1

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