Teenager Rebecca McLean found safe and well after going missing from her home in Southampton

Rebecca McLean

Michael Britten

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THE MOTHER of a Hampshire teenagerwho went missing with a man more than twice her age has spoken of her joy now her daughter has been found.

Rebecca McLean, 15, was found on the Isle of Wight after being missing since Saturday morning, Hampshire Constabulary confirmed this morning.

Her mum, Julie Middleditch, expressed her delight at the news her daughter was safe and well.

She said: “I’m really happy she has been found – we were so worried because she was away from home. We want her back as soon as possible it is a big relief.”

In a statement, Hampshire Constabulary said a 33 year old man has been arrested on suspicion of child abduction.

Anxiety had been mounting among friends and family after she was last seen with Michael Britten, also of the city.

Ms Middleditch begged Rebecca to come home, issuing a plea for her daughter to go to the nearest police station.

Officers, who had been growing concerned for her welfare, said that a 33-year-old man is now helping officers with their enquiries.

Police launched an appeal for information on her whereabouts, asking anyone who had seen either Rebecca or Mr Britten to contact them urgently.

And at about 8.30pm Hampshire Constabulary announced that she had been located on the Isle of Wight.

The Daily Echo understands that the pair are not related and became friends on a social networking site on July 24.

A day later Mr Britten updated his profile to say he was "in a relationship".

Anyone with information on the incident is asked to contact Hampshire Constabulary on 101.

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9:46am Mon 11 Aug 14

eurogordi says...

Cases like this always concern me. She is 15 and he is 33. Would we be as concerned if she was 16 (age of consent) and he was 34? Probably not!

If the couple were "in love" and "in a relationship" (l understand that a relationship is now classified as being established after 48 hours which I personally think is ridiculous), who are we to question?

The only real problem here seems to be that the girl was below the age of consent, but we do not know if she pretended to be older etc.

Above all, the reason these cases concern me is that something similar happened in my family when a 16 year old girl became involved with a man some 30 years her senior.

Guess what? They have now been married for almost 20 years with several lovely and well mannered children. Had she still been 15 at the time of meeting her future husband, it might have been an entirely different story.

I recognise that there is a very thin line that has to be trod extremely carefully ... but this poor man will now have a criminal record and is likely to end up on the sex offenders register.

If his intentions were honourable, as in my own family situation, is that right just because the girl was a few months below the legal age of consent? And we all know that teenagers are maturing much more quickly these days.

If young people can be deemed Fraser Competent (google that if you don't know what it means) at the age of 12 when it comes to handing out contraception without parental involvement, why can they not be able to be Fraser Competent when it comes to their actual relationships?
Cases like this always concern me. She is 15 and he is 33. Would we be as concerned if she was 16 (age of consent) and he was 34? Probably not! If the couple were "in love" and "in a relationship" (l understand that a relationship is now classified as being established after 48 hours which I personally think is ridiculous), who are we to question? The only real problem here seems to be that the girl was below the age of consent, but we do not know if she pretended to be older etc. Above all, the reason these cases concern me is that something similar happened in my family when a 16 year old girl became involved with a man some 30 years her senior. Guess what? They have now been married for almost 20 years with several lovely and well mannered children. Had she still been 15 at the time of meeting her future husband, it might have been an entirely different story. I recognise that there is a very thin line that has to be trod extremely carefully ... but this poor man will now have a criminal record and is likely to end up on the sex offenders register. If his intentions were honourable, as in my own family situation, is that right just because the girl was a few months below the legal age of consent? And we all know that teenagers are maturing much more quickly these days. If young people can be deemed Fraser Competent (google that if you don't know what it means) at the age of 12 when it comes to handing out contraception without parental involvement, why can they not be able to be Fraser Competent when it comes to their actual relationships? eurogordi
  • Score: 23

9:57am Mon 11 Aug 14

saintslou says...

I have to say I agree with a few of the points raised by Eurogordi. Myself and my husband have 10 years between us which with me being 38 is nothing (our kids do like to poke fun at the fact that at one time i was 10 when he was 20). I think the real problem here is the fact that they 'ran off' together whilst she was still deemed underage which only highlights the fact that they knew it was wrong. If they are 'in love' could they have not waited until she was of age?
I have to say I agree with a few of the points raised by Eurogordi. Myself and my husband have 10 years between us which with me being 38 is nothing (our kids do like to poke fun at the fact that at one time i was 10 when he was 20). I think the real problem here is the fact that they 'ran off' together whilst she was still deemed underage which only highlights the fact that they knew it was wrong. If they are 'in love' could they have not waited until she was of age? saintslou
  • Score: 15

10:11am Mon 11 Aug 14

cliffwalker says...

They ran off together which implies that they knew what they were doing was wrong. They could have continued a legal relationship until the girl reached the age of consent when the relationship might have been considered inappropriate but they would have been in the clear legally. In this case, on the face of it, a crime has taken place.
They ran off together which implies that they knew what they were doing was wrong. They could have continued a legal relationship until the girl reached the age of consent when the relationship might have been considered inappropriate but they would have been in the clear legally. In this case, on the face of it, a crime has taken place. cliffwalker
  • Score: 6

10:16am Mon 11 Aug 14

Andrew-73 says...

Why are people defending this man's actions? The girl is 15 - a child in the eyes of the law (and frankly in any sane person's eyes).
Look at him!
The teacher and his pupil that ran away last year was the same - people defending adults who should know better. What there aren't enough adult women without chasing after children? A 15 year old girl will pretty much fall in love with anyone that shows attention - and these types of people prey on that. They know what they are doing and it shouldn't be excused.
Why are people defending this man's actions? The girl is 15 - a child in the eyes of the law (and frankly in any sane person's eyes). Look at him! The teacher and his pupil that ran away last year was the same - people defending adults who should know better. What there aren't enough adult women without chasing after children? A 15 year old girl will pretty much fall in love with anyone that shows attention - and these types of people prey on that. They know what they are doing and it shouldn't be excused. Andrew-73
  • Score: 57

10:23am Mon 11 Aug 14

eurogordi says...

Yes, they did "run away" according to the media but, as an old saying goes, love is blind and rational behaviour often goes out the window. Perhaps her mother was putting pressure on the girl to end the relationship ... perhaps she had told the man she was already 16 ... perhaps she said that her mother knew they were going away together ... there are so many scenarios that it is impossible for us to know the full story. But the fact that she was found safe and well seems to speak volumes and, as I mentioned earlier, these type of cases do worry me for the reasons previously stated. And I am less convinced that the law is clear on such matters because, if anything, it is at best contradictory. Once again I urge you all to check out what Fraser Competent means. If an under age person can be deemed competent in having an intimate relationship why can they not be competent in deciding who to have a relationship with? It is a complete minefield and one that I would not want to be judge and jury on, but it is definitely not as clear cut as some would suggest.
Yes, they did "run away" according to the media but, as an old saying goes, love is blind and rational behaviour often goes out the window. Perhaps her mother was putting pressure on the girl to end the relationship ... perhaps she had told the man she was already 16 ... perhaps she said that her mother knew they were going away together ... there are so many scenarios that it is impossible for us to know the full story. But the fact that she was found safe and well seems to speak volumes and, as I mentioned earlier, these type of cases do worry me for the reasons previously stated. And I am less convinced that the law is clear on such matters because, if anything, it is at best contradictory. Once again I urge you all to check out what Fraser Competent means. If an under age person can be deemed competent in having an intimate relationship why can they not be competent in deciding who to have a relationship with? It is a complete minefield and one that I would not want to be judge and jury on, but it is definitely not as clear cut as some would suggest. eurogordi
  • Score: -6

10:30am Mon 11 Aug 14

eurogordi says...

Andrew-73 wrote:
Why are people defending this man's actions? The girl is 15 - a child in the eyes of the law (and frankly in any sane person's eyes).
Look at him!
The teacher and his pupil that ran away last year was the same - people defending adults who should know better. What there aren't enough adult women without chasing after children? A 15 year old girl will pretty much fall in love with anyone that shows attention - and these types of people prey on that. They know what they are doing and it shouldn't be excused.
So you have automatically labelled this man a paedophile without fully knowing or evaluating the facts. That is a very dangerous course of action to take. As for the teacher and his pupil, he overstepped his professional boundaries and, in that instance, his actions were wrong. But if he had not been the girl's teacher then, once again, that situation would have become less clear. If only we did live in a world where everything was black and white, but sadly we have to put up with too many shades of grey!
[quote][p][bold]Andrew-73[/bold] wrote: Why are people defending this man's actions? The girl is 15 - a child in the eyes of the law (and frankly in any sane person's eyes). Look at him! The teacher and his pupil that ran away last year was the same - people defending adults who should know better. What there aren't enough adult women without chasing after children? A 15 year old girl will pretty much fall in love with anyone that shows attention - and these types of people prey on that. They know what they are doing and it shouldn't be excused.[/p][/quote]So you have automatically labelled this man a paedophile without fully knowing or evaluating the facts. That is a very dangerous course of action to take. As for the teacher and his pupil, he overstepped his professional boundaries and, in that instance, his actions were wrong. But if he had not been the girl's teacher then, once again, that situation would have become less clear. If only we did live in a world where everything was black and white, but sadly we have to put up with too many shades of grey! eurogordi
  • Score: 9

11:27am Mon 11 Aug 14

1612 amanda says...

The best news is the family have Rebecca home thank goodness x I sincerely hope the professionals can ascertain the facts and decisions will be made as to what happens next x
The best news is the family have Rebecca home thank goodness x I sincerely hope the professionals can ascertain the facts and decisions will be made as to what happens next x 1612 amanda
  • Score: 17

11:43am Mon 11 Aug 14

Kirsty666 says...

So many of these cases come up of late in local and national news. Teenagers these days are very strong minded and are older than they think too
So many of these cases come up of late in local and national news. Teenagers these days are very strong minded and are older than they think too Kirsty666
  • Score: 11

11:45am Mon 11 Aug 14

Kirsty666 says...

Kirsty666 wrote:
So many of these cases come up of late in local and national news. Teenagers these days are very strong minded and are older than they think too
Meant to be think they're older than they are
[quote][p][bold]Kirsty666[/bold] wrote: So many of these cases come up of late in local and national news. Teenagers these days are very strong minded and are older than they think too[/p][/quote]Meant to be think they're older than they are Kirsty666
  • Score: 6

12:06pm Mon 11 Aug 14

Kirsty666 says...

eurogordi wrote:
Yes, they did "run away" according to the media but, as an old saying goes, love is blind and rational behaviour often goes out the window. Perhaps her mother was putting pressure on the girl to end the relationship ... perhaps she had told the man she was already 16 ... perhaps she said that her mother knew they were going away together ... there are so many scenarios that it is impossible for us to know the full story. But the fact that she was found safe and well seems to speak volumes and, as I mentioned earlier, these type of cases do worry me for the reasons previously stated. And I am less convinced that the law is clear on such matters because, if anything, it is at best contradictory. Once again I urge you all to check out what Fraser Competent means. If an under age person can be deemed competent in having an intimate relationship why can they not be competent in deciding who to have a relationship with? It is a complete minefield and one that I would not want to be judge and jury on, but it is definitely not as clear cut as some would suggest.
I quite agree with both your statements, the young lady obviously has the mind to know the difference between right and wrong the problem is the law is very particular not that it's a bad thing but certain aspects of law should be worded better rather than the way they are however if it's true love why not wait until her 16th birthday.
Megan Stammers and Jeremy Forrest an example of where running off leads they claimed to be in love but he is now serving 5 years and is classified as a peadophile as he was made to sign the sex offenders register for life.
[quote][p][bold]eurogordi[/bold] wrote: Yes, they did "run away" according to the media but, as an old saying goes, love is blind and rational behaviour often goes out the window. Perhaps her mother was putting pressure on the girl to end the relationship ... perhaps she had told the man she was already 16 ... perhaps she said that her mother knew they were going away together ... there are so many scenarios that it is impossible for us to know the full story. But the fact that she was found safe and well seems to speak volumes and, as I mentioned earlier, these type of cases do worry me for the reasons previously stated. And I am less convinced that the law is clear on such matters because, if anything, it is at best contradictory. Once again I urge you all to check out what Fraser Competent means. If an under age person can be deemed competent in having an intimate relationship why can they not be competent in deciding who to have a relationship with? It is a complete minefield and one that I would not want to be judge and jury on, but it is definitely not as clear cut as some would suggest.[/p][/quote]I quite agree with both your statements, the young lady obviously has the mind to know the difference between right and wrong the problem is the law is very particular not that it's a bad thing but certain aspects of law should be worded better rather than the way they are however if it's true love why not wait until her 16th birthday. Megan Stammers and Jeremy Forrest an example of where running off leads they claimed to be in love but he is now serving 5 years and is classified as a peadophile as he was made to sign the sex offenders register for life. Kirsty666
  • Score: 1

12:22pm Mon 11 Aug 14

lowe esteem says...

eurogordi wrote:
Yes, they did "run away" according to the media but, as an old saying goes, love is blind and rational behaviour often goes out the window. Perhaps her mother was putting pressure on the girl to end the relationship ... perhaps she had told the man she was already 16 ... perhaps she said that her mother knew they were going away together ... there are so many scenarios that it is impossible for us to know the full story. But the fact that she was found safe and well seems to speak volumes and, as I mentioned earlier, these type of cases do worry me for the reasons previously stated. And I am less convinced that the law is clear on such matters because, if anything, it is at best contradictory. Once again I urge you all to check out what Fraser Competent means. If an under age person can be deemed competent in having an intimate relationship why can they not be competent in deciding who to have a relationship with? It is a complete minefield and one that I would not want to be judge and jury on, but it is definitely not as clear cut as some would suggest.
What is clear cut is the responsibility of the adult, and we should never make excuses for that.
Whilst there many age disparity stories, and some turn out well, please do not try and confuse sexual maturity and intelligence with growing up. This is very important, and cannot be glossed over in this manner.
We're called adults for a reason, even if it's only to remind many of us to behave as such.
[quote][p][bold]eurogordi[/bold] wrote: Yes, they did "run away" according to the media but, as an old saying goes, love is blind and rational behaviour often goes out the window. Perhaps her mother was putting pressure on the girl to end the relationship ... perhaps she had told the man she was already 16 ... perhaps she said that her mother knew they were going away together ... there are so many scenarios that it is impossible for us to know the full story. But the fact that she was found safe and well seems to speak volumes and, as I mentioned earlier, these type of cases do worry me for the reasons previously stated. And I am less convinced that the law is clear on such matters because, if anything, it is at best contradictory. Once again I urge you all to check out what Fraser Competent means. If an under age person can be deemed competent in having an intimate relationship why can they not be competent in deciding who to have a relationship with? It is a complete minefield and one that I would not want to be judge and jury on, but it is definitely not as clear cut as some would suggest.[/p][/quote]What is clear cut is the responsibility of the adult, and we should never make excuses for that. Whilst there many age disparity stories, and some turn out well, please do not try and confuse sexual maturity and intelligence with growing up. This is very important, and cannot be glossed over in this manner. We're called adults for a reason, even if it's only to remind many of us to behave as such. lowe esteem
  • Score: 27

12:53pm Mon 11 Aug 14

Higginz says...

Setting the legal issue aside, surely the inbuilt moral compass of a sound-of-mind 30+ year old man, should tell him that a 15-year-old girl is not mature enough to be in a relationship with him. Alarm bells should ring.
Setting the legal issue aside, surely the inbuilt moral compass of a sound-of-mind 30+ year old man, should tell him that a 15-year-old girl is not mature enough to be in a relationship with him. Alarm bells should ring. Higginz
  • Score: 37

1:38pm Mon 11 Aug 14

Shoong says...

Higginz wrote:
Setting the legal issue aside, surely the inbuilt moral compass of a sound-of-mind 30+ year old man, should tell him that a 15-year-old girl is not mature enough to be in a relationship with him. Alarm bells should ring.
Take another look at his picture.
[quote][p][bold]Higginz[/bold] wrote: Setting the legal issue aside, surely the inbuilt moral compass of a sound-of-mind 30+ year old man, should tell him that a 15-year-old girl is not mature enough to be in a relationship with him. Alarm bells should ring.[/p][/quote]Take another look at his picture. Shoong
  • Score: 4

2:07pm Mon 11 Aug 14

Outside of the Box says...

eurogordi wrote:
Andrew-73 wrote:
Why are people defending this man's actions? The girl is 15 - a child in the eyes of the law (and frankly in any sane person's eyes).
Look at him!
The teacher and his pupil that ran away last year was the same - people defending adults who should know better. What there aren't enough adult women without chasing after children? A 15 year old girl will pretty much fall in love with anyone that shows attention - and these types of people prey on that. They know what they are doing and it shouldn't be excused.
So you have automatically labelled this man a paedophile without fully knowing or evaluating the facts. That is a very dangerous course of action to take. As for the teacher and his pupil, he overstepped his professional boundaries and, in that instance, his actions were wrong. But if he had not been the girl's teacher then, once again, that situation would have become less clear. If only we did live in a world where everything was black and white, but sadly we have to put up with too many shades of grey!
To go along with the probable charge of child abduction he will also be charged with grooming a child on the internet.

Children are children and should be protected, regardless of what she might of told him her age was, even if said lied, clearly there is something wrong with a bloke of 33 being attracted to a child of 15.

If found guilty he will be placed on the sex offenders register and rightly so, he groomed a child, plain and simply and will be punished accordingly and so he should.
[quote][p][bold]eurogordi[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Andrew-73[/bold] wrote: Why are people defending this man's actions? The girl is 15 - a child in the eyes of the law (and frankly in any sane person's eyes). Look at him! The teacher and his pupil that ran away last year was the same - people defending adults who should know better. What there aren't enough adult women without chasing after children? A 15 year old girl will pretty much fall in love with anyone that shows attention - and these types of people prey on that. They know what they are doing and it shouldn't be excused.[/p][/quote]So you have automatically labelled this man a paedophile without fully knowing or evaluating the facts. That is a very dangerous course of action to take. As for the teacher and his pupil, he overstepped his professional boundaries and, in that instance, his actions were wrong. But if he had not been the girl's teacher then, once again, that situation would have become less clear. If only we did live in a world where everything was black and white, but sadly we have to put up with too many shades of grey![/p][/quote]To go along with the probable charge of child abduction he will also be charged with grooming a child on the internet. Children are children and should be protected, regardless of what she might of told him her age was, even if said lied, clearly there is something wrong with a bloke of 33 being attracted to a child of 15. If found guilty he will be placed on the sex offenders register and rightly so, he groomed a child, plain and simply and will be punished accordingly and so he should. Outside of the Box
  • Score: 7

2:10pm Mon 11 Aug 14

Outside of the Box says...

Shoong wrote:
Higginz wrote:
Setting the legal issue aside, surely the inbuilt moral compass of a sound-of-mind 30+ year old man, should tell him that a 15-year-old girl is not mature enough to be in a relationship with him. Alarm bells should ring.
Take another look at his picture.
Take a another look at his picture. I just did that and to be honest the more I like the more he looks like a sexual predator
[quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Higginz[/bold] wrote: Setting the legal issue aside, surely the inbuilt moral compass of a sound-of-mind 30+ year old man, should tell him that a 15-year-old girl is not mature enough to be in a relationship with him. Alarm bells should ring.[/p][/quote]Take another look at his picture.[/p][/quote]Take a another look at his picture. I just did that and to be honest the more I like the more he looks like a sexual predator Outside of the Box
  • Score: -2

2:25pm Mon 11 Aug 14

SouthamptonLegend says...

eurogordi wrote:
Cases like this always concern me. She is 15 and he is 33. Would we be as concerned if she was 16 (age of consent) and he was 34? Probably not!

If the couple were "in love" and "in a relationship" (l understand that a relationship is now classified as being established after 48 hours which I personally think is ridiculous), who are we to question?

The only real problem here seems to be that the girl was below the age of consent, but we do not know if she pretended to be older etc.

Above all, the reason these cases concern me is that something similar happened in my family when a 16 year old girl became involved with a man some 30 years her senior.

Guess what? They have now been married for almost 20 years with several lovely and well mannered children. Had she still been 15 at the time of meeting her future husband, it might have been an entirely different story.

I recognise that there is a very thin line that has to be trod extremely carefully ... but this poor man will now have a criminal record and is likely to end up on the sex offenders register.

If his intentions were honourable, as in my own family situation, is that right just because the girl was a few months below the legal age of consent? And we all know that teenagers are maturing much more quickly these days.

If young people can be deemed Fraser Competent (google that if you don't know what it means) at the age of 12 when it comes to handing out contraception without parental involvement, why can they not be able to be Fraser Competent when it comes to their actual relationships?
I'm 30 and there is no way I'd even consider having a 16 year old girlfriend let alone pursuing a girl of that age.

People of that young age are not adults, they aren't mature enough to make the right decisions and the elder person IS taking advantage.

They obviously just want to go out with a child. It's wrong!!
[quote][p][bold]eurogordi[/bold] wrote: Cases like this always concern me. She is 15 and he is 33. Would we be as concerned if she was 16 (age of consent) and he was 34? Probably not! If the couple were "in love" and "in a relationship" (l understand that a relationship is now classified as being established after 48 hours which I personally think is ridiculous), who are we to question? The only real problem here seems to be that the girl was below the age of consent, but we do not know if she pretended to be older etc. Above all, the reason these cases concern me is that something similar happened in my family when a 16 year old girl became involved with a man some 30 years her senior. Guess what? They have now been married for almost 20 years with several lovely and well mannered children. Had she still been 15 at the time of meeting her future husband, it might have been an entirely different story. I recognise that there is a very thin line that has to be trod extremely carefully ... but this poor man will now have a criminal record and is likely to end up on the sex offenders register. If his intentions were honourable, as in my own family situation, is that right just because the girl was a few months below the legal age of consent? And we all know that teenagers are maturing much more quickly these days. If young people can be deemed Fraser Competent (google that if you don't know what it means) at the age of 12 when it comes to handing out contraception without parental involvement, why can they not be able to be Fraser Competent when it comes to their actual relationships?[/p][/quote]I'm 30 and there is no way I'd even consider having a 16 year old girlfriend let alone pursuing a girl of that age. People of that young age are not adults, they aren't mature enough to make the right decisions and the elder person IS taking advantage. They obviously just want to go out with a child. It's wrong!! SouthamptonLegend
  • Score: 9

2:38pm Mon 11 Aug 14

Amberbell says...

I went to school with this guy and whilst I'm not condoning his actions I would say that in all classes he had additional help and was in the lower groups in terms of intelligence: I would go so far as to say that he probably doesn't have the mental age of a 33year old man. That said we all know right from wrong and if they thought they were not doing any harm they wouldn't have run away in the first place. Glad they have been found I'm sure her parents were frantic with worry.
I went to school with this guy and whilst I'm not condoning his actions I would say that in all classes he had additional help and was in the lower groups in terms of intelligence: I would go so far as to say that he probably doesn't have the mental age of a 33year old man. That said we all know right from wrong and if they thought they were not doing any harm they wouldn't have run away in the first place. Glad they have been found I'm sure her parents were frantic with worry. Amberbell
  • Score: 18

3:11pm Mon 11 Aug 14

cliffwalker says...

Outside of the Box wrote:
Shoong wrote:
Higginz wrote:
Setting the legal issue aside, surely the inbuilt moral compass of a sound-of-mind 30+ year old man, should tell him that a 15-year-old girl is not mature enough to be in a relationship with him. Alarm bells should ring.
Take another look at his picture.
Take a another look at his picture. I just did that and to be honest the more I like the more he looks like a sexual predator
Do you really want your character to be assessed on the basis of what you look like? On the basis of the way you write, I would guess you have never been recognised for the quality of your thinking but I could be very wrong about that.
[quote][p][bold]Outside of the Box[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Higginz[/bold] wrote: Setting the legal issue aside, surely the inbuilt moral compass of a sound-of-mind 30+ year old man, should tell him that a 15-year-old girl is not mature enough to be in a relationship with him. Alarm bells should ring.[/p][/quote]Take another look at his picture.[/p][/quote]Take a another look at his picture. I just did that and to be honest the more I like the more he looks like a sexual predator[/p][/quote]Do you really want your character to be assessed on the basis of what you look like? On the basis of the way you write, I would guess you have never been recognised for the quality of your thinking but I could be very wrong about that. cliffwalker
  • Score: 4

3:29pm Mon 11 Aug 14

menotyou says...

I have known Michael my whole life and refuse to believe he is some sort of sick paedophile. He is a mild mannered gent with learning difficulties and an awful childhood behind him. No one knows the full story here let the law find the truth before you condemn him.
I have known Michael my whole life and refuse to believe he is some sort of sick paedophile. He is a mild mannered gent with learning difficulties and an awful childhood behind him. No one knows the full story here let the law find the truth before you condemn him. menotyou
  • Score: 25

3:33pm Mon 11 Aug 14

camerajuan says...

Sorry but if the girl was 16 this would still be horrendous - I don't care what the law says.

Obviously from the comments above he isn't all that intelligent and obviously nobody but them know the whole story. The girl would not have ran away with him if she didn't want to though so regardless of age all blame cannot fall on him, again the law has to take this into account.
Sorry but if the girl was 16 this would still be horrendous - I don't care what the law says. Obviously from the comments above he isn't all that intelligent and obviously nobody but them know the whole story. The girl would not have ran away with him if she didn't want to though so regardless of age all blame cannot fall on him, again the law has to take this into account. camerajuan
  • Score: 9

4:59pm Mon 11 Aug 14

iequeen2000 says...

I have known michael for many years, due to the fact he was a friend of my daughters for a good few years and they both have learning difficulties, he is a very gentle person who isnt a sexual predator and yes he has had an awful childhood, including being beaten up severely a couple of years ago which left him with more brain damage. he may be 33 yrs old but he is more like a child in his ways and isnt mature in his thinking, He wouldnt of had the devious capabilities to groom anyone and would have been besotted with someone paying him attention although having said that he does know right from wrong.
I have known michael for many years, due to the fact he was a friend of my daughters for a good few years and they both have learning difficulties, he is a very gentle person who isnt a sexual predator and yes he has had an awful childhood, including being beaten up severely a couple of years ago which left him with more brain damage. he may be 33 yrs old but he is more like a child in his ways and isnt mature in his thinking, He wouldnt of had the devious capabilities to groom anyone and would have been besotted with someone paying him attention although having said that he does know right from wrong. iequeen2000
  • Score: 18

5:29pm Mon 11 Aug 14

excusemoi says...

So pleased they have both been found safe. Let's hope the man gets some sort of help.
So pleased they have both been found safe. Let's hope the man gets some sort of help. excusemoi
  • Score: 10

6:26pm Mon 11 Aug 14

eurogordi says...

I cannot believe that some people here are now saying that a sex offender can be spotted because of the way they look. Have they ever looked at their own ID photo?!!!

And now that I know the man has learning needs, I am even more convinced that this is NOT a sex offending case which has been my gut feeling all along.

By coincidence, someone posted the following on my Facebook page this afternoon. I hope it will make some of the accusers on here take a step backwards and think before judging!

Everyone makes mistakes in life, but that doesn't mean they have to pay for them for the rest of their life. Sometimes good people make bad choices. It doesn't make them bad. It means they are human.
I cannot believe that some people here are now saying that a sex offender can be spotted because of the way they look. Have they ever looked at their own ID photo?!!! And now that I know the man has learning needs, I am even more convinced that this is NOT a sex offending case which has been my gut feeling all along. By coincidence, someone posted the following on my Facebook page this afternoon. I hope it will make some of the accusers on here take a step backwards and think before judging! Everyone makes mistakes in life, but that doesn't mean they have to pay for them for the rest of their life. Sometimes good people make bad choices. It doesn't make them bad. It means they are human. eurogordi
  • Score: 5

7:24pm Mon 11 Aug 14

Stubs says...

He looks like an x prison convict.
He looks like an x prison convict. Stubs
  • Score: -8

10:12pm Mon 11 Aug 14

thesouth says...

It gravely concerns me the amount of comments of support for this relationship on here. No wonder child grooming is so easy for offenders. I Have worked in this field for a long time and so obviously I'm more in touch with the psychology etc behind these crimes but I genuinely thought members of the public would be intelligent enough to at least know that a child and adult relationship is not right. There's no hope if you don't
It gravely concerns me the amount of comments of support for this relationship on here. No wonder child grooming is so easy for offenders. I Have worked in this field for a long time and so obviously I'm more in touch with the psychology etc behind these crimes but I genuinely thought members of the public would be intelligent enough to at least know that a child and adult relationship is not right. There's no hope if you don't thesouth
  • Score: 7

10:14pm Mon 11 Aug 14

thesouth says...

eurogordi wrote:
Yes, they did "run away" according to the media but, as an old saying goes, love is blind and rational behaviour often goes out the window. Perhaps her mother was putting pressure on the girl to end the relationship ... perhaps she had told the man she was already 16 ... perhaps she said that her mother knew they were going away together ... there are so many scenarios that it is impossible for us to know the full story. But the fact that she was found safe and well seems to speak volumes and, as I mentioned earlier, these type of cases do worry me for the reasons previously stated. And I am less convinced that the law is clear on such matters because, if anything, it is at best contradictory. Once again I urge you all to check out what Fraser Competent means. If an under age person can be deemed competent in having an intimate relationship why can they not be competent in deciding who to have a relationship with? It is a complete minefield and one that I would not want to be judge and jury on, but it is definitely not as clear cut as some would suggest.
So you think a 13 year old in a sexual relationship with a say...40 year old is ok???!! I think your user name should be reported for investigation !
[quote][p][bold]eurogordi[/bold] wrote: Yes, they did "run away" according to the media but, as an old saying goes, love is blind and rational behaviour often goes out the window. Perhaps her mother was putting pressure on the girl to end the relationship ... perhaps she had told the man she was already 16 ... perhaps she said that her mother knew they were going away together ... there are so many scenarios that it is impossible for us to know the full story. But the fact that she was found safe and well seems to speak volumes and, as I mentioned earlier, these type of cases do worry me for the reasons previously stated. And I am less convinced that the law is clear on such matters because, if anything, it is at best contradictory. Once again I urge you all to check out what Fraser Competent means. If an under age person can be deemed competent in having an intimate relationship why can they not be competent in deciding who to have a relationship with? It is a complete minefield and one that I would not want to be judge and jury on, but it is definitely not as clear cut as some would suggest.[/p][/quote]So you think a 13 year old in a sexual relationship with a say...40 year old is ok???!! I think your user name should be reported for investigation ! thesouth
  • Score: 0

11:31pm Mon 11 Aug 14

saintsfan76 says...

thesouth wrote:
eurogordi wrote:
Yes, they did "run away" according to the media but, as an old saying goes, love is blind and rational behaviour often goes out the window. Perhaps her mother was putting pressure on the girl to end the relationship ... perhaps she had told the man she was already 16 ... perhaps she said that her mother knew they were going away together ... there are so many scenarios that it is impossible for us to know the full story. But the fact that she was found safe and well seems to speak volumes and, as I mentioned earlier, these type of cases do worry me for the reasons previously stated. And I am less convinced that the law is clear on such matters because, if anything, it is at best contradictory. Once again I urge you all to check out what Fraser Competent means. If an under age person can be deemed competent in having an intimate relationship why can they not be competent in deciding who to have a relationship with? It is a complete minefield and one that I would not want to be judge and jury on, but it is definitely not as clear cut as some would suggest.
So you think a 13 year old in a sexual relationship with a say...40 year old is ok???!! I think your user name should be reported for investigation !
Nowhere in his initial post can i see he is condoning a 13yr old girl going off with a 40yr old man. He is simply stating his view that its not always as black and white as it seems. If other posts on the man are to believed there could be genuine reasons why he did what he did and i doubt very much it was sexually motivated. The teacher in the case of the girl in Eastbourne was in a position of trust and even if she led him on he was in the wrong. In that case sex was involved. I have a friend whos daughter is 17 and who is dating a 30yr old she met when she was 16. Have been together over a year. Raises eyebrows with some but her mum.is comfortable that they are both happy. Age differences can workThat is all.i will add
[quote][p][bold]thesouth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]eurogordi[/bold] wrote: Yes, they did "run away" according to the media but, as an old saying goes, love is blind and rational behaviour often goes out the window. Perhaps her mother was putting pressure on the girl to end the relationship ... perhaps she had told the man she was already 16 ... perhaps she said that her mother knew they were going away together ... there are so many scenarios that it is impossible for us to know the full story. But the fact that she was found safe and well seems to speak volumes and, as I mentioned earlier, these type of cases do worry me for the reasons previously stated. And I am less convinced that the law is clear on such matters because, if anything, it is at best contradictory. Once again I urge you all to check out what Fraser Competent means. If an under age person can be deemed competent in having an intimate relationship why can they not be competent in deciding who to have a relationship with? It is a complete minefield and one that I would not want to be judge and jury on, but it is definitely not as clear cut as some would suggest.[/p][/quote]So you think a 13 year old in a sexual relationship with a say...40 year old is ok???!! I think your user name should be reported for investigation ![/p][/quote]Nowhere in his initial post can i see he is condoning a 13yr old girl going off with a 40yr old man. He is simply stating his view that its not always as black and white as it seems. If other posts on the man are to believed there could be genuine reasons why he did what he did and i doubt very much it was sexually motivated. The teacher in the case of the girl in Eastbourne was in a position of trust and even if she led him on he was in the wrong. In that case sex was involved. I have a friend whos daughter is 17 and who is dating a 30yr old she met when she was 16. Have been together over a year. Raises eyebrows with some but her mum.is comfortable that they are both happy. Age differences can workThat is all.i will add saintsfan76
  • Score: -12

11:49pm Mon 11 Aug 14

Maybush Lad says...

Amberbell wrote:
I went to school with this guy and whilst I'm not condoning his actions I would say that in all classes he had additional help and was in the lower groups in terms of intelligence: I would go so far as to say that he probably doesn't have the mental age of a 33year old man. That said we all know right from wrong and if they thought they were not doing any harm they wouldn't have run away in the first place. Glad they have been found I'm sure her parents were frantic with worry.
I also went to school with Michael and second just about everything said here.
He could be a bit of a bellend but not someone I'd have down as a sex offender; unless he's changed to a significant extent of course. He certainly was someone with special needs.
Also not condoning his actions but in the interests of fairness it needs to be said.
[quote][p][bold]Amberbell[/bold] wrote: I went to school with this guy and whilst I'm not condoning his actions I would say that in all classes he had additional help and was in the lower groups in terms of intelligence: I would go so far as to say that he probably doesn't have the mental age of a 33year old man. That said we all know right from wrong and if they thought they were not doing any harm they wouldn't have run away in the first place. Glad they have been found I'm sure her parents were frantic with worry.[/p][/quote]I also went to school with Michael and second just about everything said here. He could be a bit of a bellend but not someone I'd have down as a sex offender; unless he's changed to a significant extent of course. He certainly was someone with special needs. Also not condoning his actions but in the interests of fairness it needs to be said. Maybush Lad
  • Score: 6

9:09am Tue 12 Aug 14

thesouth says...

saintsfan76 wrote:
thesouth wrote:
eurogordi wrote:
Yes, they did "run away" according to the media but, as an old saying goes, love is blind and rational behaviour often goes out the window. Perhaps her mother was putting pressure on the girl to end the relationship ... perhaps she had told the man she was already 16 ... perhaps she said that her mother knew they were going away together ... there are so many scenarios that it is impossible for us to know the full story. But the fact that she was found safe and well seems to speak volumes and, as I mentioned earlier, these type of cases do worry me for the reasons previously stated. And I am less convinced that the law is clear on such matters because, if anything, it is at best contradictory. Once again I urge you all to check out what Fraser Competent means. If an under age person can be deemed competent in having an intimate relationship why can they not be competent in deciding who to have a relationship with? It is a complete minefield and one that I would not want to be judge and jury on, but it is definitely not as clear cut as some would suggest.
So you think a 13 year old in a sexual relationship with a say...40 year old is ok???!! I think your user name should be reported for investigation !
Nowhere in his initial post can i see he is condoning a 13yr old girl going off with a 40yr old man. He is simply stating his view that its not always as black and white as it seems. If other posts on the man are to believed there could be genuine reasons why he did what he did and i doubt very much it was sexually motivated. The teacher in the case of the girl in Eastbourne was in a position of trust and even if she led him on he was in the wrong. In that case sex was involved. I have a friend whos daughter is 17 and who is dating a 30yr old she met when she was 16. Have been together over a year. Raises eyebrows with some but her mum.is comfortable that they are both happy. Age differences can workThat is all.i will add
Age differences can work..... BUT NOT WITH CHILDREN AND ADULTS

Ps the their post mentions 'Fraser competent'....that's where the 13 come from
[quote][p][bold]saintsfan76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]thesouth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]eurogordi[/bold] wrote: Yes, they did "run away" according to the media but, as an old saying goes, love is blind and rational behaviour often goes out the window. Perhaps her mother was putting pressure on the girl to end the relationship ... perhaps she had told the man she was already 16 ... perhaps she said that her mother knew they were going away together ... there are so many scenarios that it is impossible for us to know the full story. But the fact that she was found safe and well seems to speak volumes and, as I mentioned earlier, these type of cases do worry me for the reasons previously stated. And I am less convinced that the law is clear on such matters because, if anything, it is at best contradictory. Once again I urge you all to check out what Fraser Competent means. If an under age person can be deemed competent in having an intimate relationship why can they not be competent in deciding who to have a relationship with? It is a complete minefield and one that I would not want to be judge and jury on, but it is definitely not as clear cut as some would suggest.[/p][/quote]So you think a 13 year old in a sexual relationship with a say...40 year old is ok???!! I think your user name should be reported for investigation ![/p][/quote]Nowhere in his initial post can i see he is condoning a 13yr old girl going off with a 40yr old man. He is simply stating his view that its not always as black and white as it seems. If other posts on the man are to believed there could be genuine reasons why he did what he did and i doubt very much it was sexually motivated. The teacher in the case of the girl in Eastbourne was in a position of trust and even if she led him on he was in the wrong. In that case sex was involved. I have a friend whos daughter is 17 and who is dating a 30yr old she met when she was 16. Have been together over a year. Raises eyebrows with some but her mum.is comfortable that they are both happy. Age differences can workThat is all.i will add[/p][/quote]Age differences can work..... BUT NOT WITH CHILDREN AND ADULTS Ps the their post mentions 'Fraser competent'....that's where the 13 come from thesouth
  • Score: 4

9:11am Tue 12 Aug 14

thesouth says...

menotyou wrote:
I have known Michael my whole life and refuse to believe he is some sort of sick paedophile. He is a mild mannered gent with learning difficulties and an awful childhood behind him. No one knows the full story here let the law find the truth before you condemn him.
Classic :) how do you think these people get away with it ? Sex offenders arent labelled or have stereotype looks, they are professional and their aim is to fool. Hope you don't have kids in your care with the attitude you have
[quote][p][bold]menotyou[/bold] wrote: I have known Michael my whole life and refuse to believe he is some sort of sick paedophile. He is a mild mannered gent with learning difficulties and an awful childhood behind him. No one knows the full story here let the law find the truth before you condemn him.[/p][/quote]Classic :) how do you think these people get away with it ? Sex offenders arent labelled or have stereotype looks, they are professional and their aim is to fool. Hope you don't have kids in your care with the attitude you have thesouth
  • Score: -3

10:20am Tue 12 Aug 14

camerajuan says...

thesouth wrote:
menotyou wrote:
I have known Michael my whole life and refuse to believe he is some sort of sick paedophile. He is a mild mannered gent with learning difficulties and an awful childhood behind him. No one knows the full story here let the law find the truth before you condemn him.
Classic :) how do you think these people get away with it ? Sex offenders arent labelled or have stereotype looks, they are professional and their aim is to fool. Hope you don't have kids in your care with the attitude you have
You're claiming that a guy with learning difficulties is "professional and aiming to fool"?

You really have missed the boat on that one. I don't care what field you work in that's ridiculous.
[quote][p][bold]thesouth[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]menotyou[/bold] wrote: I have known Michael my whole life and refuse to believe he is some sort of sick paedophile. He is a mild mannered gent with learning difficulties and an awful childhood behind him. No one knows the full story here let the law find the truth before you condemn him.[/p][/quote]Classic :) how do you think these people get away with it ? Sex offenders arent labelled or have stereotype looks, they are professional and their aim is to fool. Hope you don't have kids in your care with the attitude you have[/p][/quote]You're claiming that a guy with learning difficulties is "professional and aiming to fool"? You really have missed the boat on that one. I don't care what field you work in that's ridiculous. camerajuan
  • Score: 3

3:57pm Tue 12 Aug 14

wilson castaway says...

When i was 15 i had a 28yr old boyfriend.My parents weren't exactly thrilled with the prospect but let me get on with it.If they had forced me away from him I would of sneaked to see him.The best thing they did was let me learn what a complete k nob head he was in my own time.Is he a sex offender..no ...at 15 I thought i knew everything.Only now do I see how little I knew.But i have a forteen year old son now and the thought of him running off with a person much older would repulse me.And I would want to throttle them.I see both sides.
When i was 15 i had a 28yr old boyfriend.My parents weren't exactly thrilled with the prospect but let me get on with it.If they had forced me away from him I would of sneaked to see him.The best thing they did was let me learn what a complete k nob head he was in my own time.Is he a sex offender..no ...at 15 I thought i knew everything.Only now do I see how little I knew.But i have a forteen year old son now and the thought of him running off with a person much older would repulse me.And I would want to throttle them.I see both sides. wilson castaway
  • Score: 3

11:35am Mon 18 Aug 14

southy says...

Maybe its time to rise the age of consent to 18, Think about it the age of consent as been at this fix age for a long while, When i left school at the age of 15 the age of consent was 16 then, but school leaving age as increase but the age of consent as not. At lest with 18 you might get that bit of a leway.
In the USA it verys from state to state some its 18 while others its 21 and 23 and in some states if child is under 23 a relationship between two people can only beallowed between a max age gap of 2 years, The USA as moved on over the years and increase the age of consent it was not that long ago (around 50 years ago a 14 year old could marry in a few states) read up on Jerry Lewis
Maybe its time to rise the age of consent to 18, Think about it the age of consent as been at this fix age for a long while, When i left school at the age of 15 the age of consent was 16 then, but school leaving age as increase but the age of consent as not. At lest with 18 you might get that bit of a leway. In the USA it verys from state to state some its 18 while others its 21 and 23 and in some states if child is under 23 a relationship between two people can only beallowed between a max age gap of 2 years, The USA as moved on over the years and increase the age of consent it was not that long ago (around 50 years ago a 14 year old could marry in a few states) read up on Jerry Lewis southy
  • Score: 0

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