Pilot police scheme in Hampshire keeps mental health sufferers out of cells

Hampshire police and crime commissioner Simon Hayes has championed the scheme

Hampshire police and crime commissioner Simon Hayes has championed the scheme

First published in News Daily Echo: Photograph of the Author by , Senior Reporter

A PILOT project to cut the numbers of mental health sufferers being locked up in police cells is seeing dramatic results, council chiefs have heard.

As reported by the Daily Echo earlier this year, Hampshire police launched Operation Serenity in a bid to curb the numbers of ill people languishing in cells before they could be assessed and referred to get the right help.

The three-month pilot scheme, championed by Police and Crime Commissioner Simon Hayes, saw mental health workers from Southern Health travel with officers in patrol cars so together they could be best placed to deal with a situation.

Now councillors responsible for health and adult social care in Hampshire have produced a report praising the operation and its success in keeping people suffering a mental health crisis out of the cells.

Totton South and Marchwood councillor David Harrison told how it can often be tough for officers to determine if they are dealing with someone with anxiety, stress or who is intoxicated through drink or drugs, as opposed to a serious mental illness, but they were getting better at spotting the tell-tale signs.

He told the committee: “Police officers are now better trained to deal with people who they might think are suffering from a mental illness.

“It’s very helpful for someone to have someone who is experienced in the field of mental health to give advice to the police officer on the spot and I think Operation Serenity as seen as being really successful in that regard.”

Results showed that out of 26 calls outs with a nurse travelling in a car, 80 per cent of people responded well to advice and no further action was needed while 20 per cent were visited and assessed and sent to hospital.

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11:22am Sun 10 Aug 14

roofspace says...

Never was a problem before "Milk Snatcher" Thatcher closed all the psychiatric hospitals and tossed all the patients out on to the streets under the guise of "Care in the Community" and sold off the buildings and land at a knockdown price to her speculator pals in the City.
Never was a problem before "Milk Snatcher" Thatcher closed all the psychiatric hospitals and tossed all the patients out on to the streets under the guise of "Care in the Community" and sold off the buildings and land at a knockdown price to her speculator pals in the City. roofspace
  • Score: 8

12:10pm Sun 10 Aug 14

likewatchingbrazil says...

roofspace is 100% correct, wonder if the pilot scheme is the same as the one that seems to keep the peado's out of cells too
roofspace is 100% correct, wonder if the pilot scheme is the same as the one that seems to keep the peado's out of cells too likewatchingbrazil
  • Score: 4

1:37pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Dai Rear says...

roofspace wrote:
Never was a problem before "Milk Snatcher" Thatcher closed all the psychiatric hospitals and tossed all the patients out on to the streets under the guise of "Care in the Community" and sold off the buildings and land at a knockdown price to her speculator pals in the City.
Same old Trot rant. Actually the problem is that frequently the custody sergeant identifies a punter who may be a candidate but the RMHN squad initially sent out to "triage" the punter appears to have a "ration" of 4 or 5 "Sections" a month and are very cautious about calling out the 2 psychs.
[quote][p][bold]roofspace[/bold] wrote: Never was a problem before "Milk Snatcher" Thatcher closed all the psychiatric hospitals and tossed all the patients out on to the streets under the guise of "Care in the Community" and sold off the buildings and land at a knockdown price to her speculator pals in the City.[/p][/quote]Same old Trot rant. Actually the problem is that frequently the custody sergeant identifies a punter who may be a candidate but the RMHN squad initially sent out to "triage" the punter appears to have a "ration" of 4 or 5 "Sections" a month and are very cautious about calling out the 2 psychs. Dai Rear
  • Score: 2

4:19pm Sun 10 Aug 14

likewatchingbrazil says...

dia rear your quote is as your name suggests.
dia rear your quote is as your name suggests. likewatchingbrazil
  • Score: -4

5:53pm Sun 10 Aug 14

TurquoiseJ says...

If this scheme is so great, why are they not funding it?
3 months it was in place.
Hopefully this will be started up again.
If this scheme is so great, why are they not funding it? 3 months it was in place. Hopefully this will be started up again. TurquoiseJ
  • Score: -1

6:33pm Sun 10 Aug 14

Dai Rear says...

likewatchingbrazil wrote:
dia rear your quote is as your name suggests.
And if puerile abuse is all you're good for please stick to your day job writing obscenities on bog walls.
[quote][p][bold]likewatchingbrazil[/bold] wrote: dia rear your quote is as your name suggests.[/p][/quote]And if puerile abuse is all you're good for please stick to your day job writing obscenities on bog walls. Dai Rear
  • Score: 3

8:54pm Sun 10 Aug 14

lastminmoran says...

As a mental health patient myself i would say for the safety of patient AND SOMETIMES PUBLIC! a safe but hopefully understanding spell in custody is preferable, than being around the general public at times of day and night when sympathy can be impaired by provocation and under the influence of booze or drugs! THE simple fact is in general the public have little time for the distress of those trying to call for help! the scary thing is, and i speak from experience a policeman is 100 times better than being beaten black and blue by those who seek an easy target for their own frustrations. Growing up near knowle and Coldeast, i used to fear ending up in such a place,but as has been stated above...in the end, care in the community has been a disaster!
As a mental health patient myself i would say for the safety of patient AND SOMETIMES PUBLIC! a safe but hopefully understanding spell in custody is preferable, than being around the general public at times of day and night when sympathy can be impaired by provocation and under the influence of booze or drugs! THE simple fact is in general the public have little time for the distress of those trying to call for help! the scary thing is, and i speak from experience a policeman is 100 times better than being beaten black and blue by those who seek an easy target for their own frustrations. Growing up near knowle and Coldeast, i used to fear ending up in such a place,but as has been stated above...in the end, care in the community has been a disaster! lastminmoran
  • Score: 6

9:49pm Sun 10 Aug 14

TurquoiseJ says...

lastminmoran wrote:
As a mental health patient myself i would say for the safety of patient AND SOMETIMES PUBLIC! a safe but hopefully understanding spell in custody is preferable, than being around the general public at times of day and night when sympathy can be impaired by provocation and under the influence of booze or drugs! THE simple fact is in general the public have little time for the distress of those trying to call for help! the scary thing is, and i speak from experience a policeman is 100 times better than being beaten black and blue by those who seek an easy target for their own frustrations. Growing up near knowle and Coldeast, i used to fear ending up in such a place,but as has been stated above...in the end, care in the community has been a disaster!
If there were more beds in hospitals or crisis houses, people could have a safe place without being in a cell.
[quote][p][bold]lastminmoran[/bold] wrote: As a mental health patient myself i would say for the safety of patient AND SOMETIMES PUBLIC! a safe but hopefully understanding spell in custody is preferable, than being around the general public at times of day and night when sympathy can be impaired by provocation and under the influence of booze or drugs! THE simple fact is in general the public have little time for the distress of those trying to call for help! the scary thing is, and i speak from experience a policeman is 100 times better than being beaten black and blue by those who seek an easy target for their own frustrations. Growing up near knowle and Coldeast, i used to fear ending up in such a place,but as has been stated above...in the end, care in the community has been a disaster![/p][/quote]If there were more beds in hospitals or crisis houses, people could have a safe place without being in a cell. TurquoiseJ
  • Score: 2

10:26pm Sun 10 Aug 14

lastminmoran says...

SOME of us can't wait for IF...! WITH the powers that be looking for capital investment projects,maybe instead of fracking and another road through your back garden, a few more places of care and safety for the country''s citizens in need...not to mention prisons!!!!after all has crime come to a halt.
SOME of us can't wait for IF...! WITH the powers that be looking for capital investment projects,maybe instead of fracking and another road through your back garden, a few more places of care and safety for the country''s citizens in need...not to mention prisons!!!!after all has crime come to a halt. lastminmoran
  • Score: 2

8:24am Mon 11 Aug 14

roofspace says...

Dai Rear wrote:
roofspace wrote:
Never was a problem before "Milk Snatcher" Thatcher closed all the psychiatric hospitals and tossed all the patients out on to the streets under the guise of "Care in the Community" and sold off the buildings and land at a knockdown price to her speculator pals in the City.
Same old Trot rant. Actually the problem is that frequently the custody sergeant identifies a punter who may be a candidate but the RMHN squad initially sent out to "triage" the punter appears to have a "ration" of 4 or 5 "Sections" a month and are very cautious about calling out the 2 psychs.
Same old Troy rant. Everyone who doesn't support the "greed and self-interest" philosophy of the Conservative party and their ilk MUST be a left-wing loony. I have news for you - other people have a moral compass and social conscience unlike you apparently.
I notice with interest that you have not denied the truth of my comments.
I await your further abuse with interest.
[quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roofspace[/bold] wrote: Never was a problem before "Milk Snatcher" Thatcher closed all the psychiatric hospitals and tossed all the patients out on to the streets under the guise of "Care in the Community" and sold off the buildings and land at a knockdown price to her speculator pals in the City.[/p][/quote]Same old Trot rant. Actually the problem is that frequently the custody sergeant identifies a punter who may be a candidate but the RMHN squad initially sent out to "triage" the punter appears to have a "ration" of 4 or 5 "Sections" a month and are very cautious about calling out the 2 psychs.[/p][/quote]Same old Troy rant. Everyone who doesn't support the "greed and self-interest" philosophy of the Conservative party and their ilk MUST be a left-wing loony. I have news for you - other people have a moral compass and social conscience unlike you apparently. I notice with interest that you have not denied the truth of my comments. I await your further abuse with interest. roofspace
  • Score: 0

8:55am Mon 11 Aug 14

Lone Ranger. says...

roofspace wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
roofspace wrote:
Never was a problem before "Milk Snatcher" Thatcher closed all the psychiatric hospitals and tossed all the patients out on to the streets under the guise of "Care in the Community" and sold off the buildings and land at a knockdown price to her speculator pals in the City.
Same old Trot rant. Actually the problem is that frequently the custody sergeant identifies a punter who may be a candidate but the RMHN squad initially sent out to "triage" the punter appears to have a "ration" of 4 or 5 "Sections" a month and are very cautious about calling out the 2 psychs.
Same old Troy rant. Everyone who doesn't support the "greed and self-interest" philosophy of the Conservative party and their ilk MUST be a left-wing loony. I have news for you - other people have a moral compass and social conscience unlike you apparently.
I notice with interest that you have not denied the truth of my comments.
I await your further abuse with interest.
He/She is best ignored ........ seems to know nothing about lots of things !
[quote][p][bold]roofspace[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roofspace[/bold] wrote: Never was a problem before "Milk Snatcher" Thatcher closed all the psychiatric hospitals and tossed all the patients out on to the streets under the guise of "Care in the Community" and sold off the buildings and land at a knockdown price to her speculator pals in the City.[/p][/quote]Same old Trot rant. Actually the problem is that frequently the custody sergeant identifies a punter who may be a candidate but the RMHN squad initially sent out to "triage" the punter appears to have a "ration" of 4 or 5 "Sections" a month and are very cautious about calling out the 2 psychs.[/p][/quote]Same old Troy rant. Everyone who doesn't support the "greed and self-interest" philosophy of the Conservative party and their ilk MUST be a left-wing loony. I have news for you - other people have a moral compass and social conscience unlike you apparently. I notice with interest that you have not denied the truth of my comments. I await your further abuse with interest.[/p][/quote]He/She is best ignored ........ seems to know nothing about lots of things ! Lone Ranger.
  • Score: -1

4:51pm Mon 11 Aug 14

Dai Rear says...

roofspace wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
roofspace wrote:
Never was a problem before "Milk Snatcher" Thatcher closed all the psychiatric hospitals and tossed all the patients out on to the streets under the guise of "Care in the Community" and sold off the buildings and land at a knockdown price to her speculator pals in the City.
Same old Trot rant. Actually the problem is that frequently the custody sergeant identifies a punter who may be a candidate but the RMHN squad initially sent out to "triage" the punter appears to have a "ration" of 4 or 5 "Sections" a month and are very cautious about calling out the 2 psychs.
Same old Troy rant. Everyone who doesn't support the "greed and self-interest" philosophy of the Conservative party and their ilk MUST be a left-wing loony. I have news for you - other people have a moral compass and social conscience unlike you apparently.
I notice with interest that you have not denied the truth of my comments.
I await your further abuse with interest.
I have no leanings towards either of the parties involved in the Siege of Troy. To be honest I can't remember who they were.
There's no "moral compass" in spending others' cash.
Mental dysfunction is so widespread as to never be fully affordable. The Failure Party spent zillions on the NHS 2004-10 and Sectioning remained on ration.
[quote][p][bold]roofspace[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]roofspace[/bold] wrote: Never was a problem before "Milk Snatcher" Thatcher closed all the psychiatric hospitals and tossed all the patients out on to the streets under the guise of "Care in the Community" and sold off the buildings and land at a knockdown price to her speculator pals in the City.[/p][/quote]Same old Trot rant. Actually the problem is that frequently the custody sergeant identifies a punter who may be a candidate but the RMHN squad initially sent out to "triage" the punter appears to have a "ration" of 4 or 5 "Sections" a month and are very cautious about calling out the 2 psychs.[/p][/quote]Same old Troy rant. Everyone who doesn't support the "greed and self-interest" philosophy of the Conservative party and their ilk MUST be a left-wing loony. I have news for you - other people have a moral compass and social conscience unlike you apparently. I notice with interest that you have not denied the truth of my comments. I await your further abuse with interest.[/p][/quote]I have no leanings towards either of the parties involved in the Siege of Troy. To be honest I can't remember who they were. There's no "moral compass" in spending others' cash. Mental dysfunction is so widespread as to never be fully affordable. The Failure Party spent zillions on the NHS 2004-10 and Sectioning remained on ration. Dai Rear
  • Score: 3

6:07am Mon 25 Aug 14

Dr Martin says...

TurquoiseJ wrote:
lastminmoran wrote:
As a mental health patient myself i would say for the safety of patient AND SOMETIMES PUBLIC! a safe but hopefully understanding spell in custody is preferable, than being around the general public at times of day and night when sympathy can be impaired by provocation and under the influence of booze or drugs! THE simple fact is in general the public have little time for the distress of those trying to call for help! the scary thing is, and i speak from experience a policeman is 100 times better than being beaten black and blue by those who seek an easy target for their own frustrations. Growing up near knowle and Coldeast, i used to fear ending up in such a place,but as has been stated above...in the end, care in the community has been a disaster!
If there were more beds in hospitals or crisis houses, people could have a safe place without being in a cell.
I am afraid just "having more beds" isn't the answer
[quote][p][bold]TurquoiseJ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lastminmoran[/bold] wrote: As a mental health patient myself i would say for the safety of patient AND SOMETIMES PUBLIC! a safe but hopefully understanding spell in custody is preferable, than being around the general public at times of day and night when sympathy can be impaired by provocation and under the influence of booze or drugs! THE simple fact is in general the public have little time for the distress of those trying to call for help! the scary thing is, and i speak from experience a policeman is 100 times better than being beaten black and blue by those who seek an easy target for their own frustrations. Growing up near knowle and Coldeast, i used to fear ending up in such a place,but as has been stated above...in the end, care in the community has been a disaster![/p][/quote]If there were more beds in hospitals or crisis houses, people could have a safe place without being in a cell.[/p][/quote]I am afraid just "having more beds" isn't the answer Dr Martin
  • Score: 0

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