Police compile dossier puts question mark over future of The Griffin pub in Shirley area of Southampton

Pub could be shut down as police compile dossier of crime and violence

The Griffin in Shirley

Colin Cheevers

First published in News Daily Echo: Photograph of the Author by , Political reporter

A POPULAR pub could be shut down after police drew up a damning report revealing a catalogue of violence and alcohol-fuelled crime.

Licensing chiefs in Southampton will decide whether to close The Griffin Inn at a meeting this week.

Police compiled a dossier of bad behaviour at the Shirley pub going back to 2010.

They include:

n A fight with baseball bats outside the pub.

• Several brawls inside and outside the pub, some of which resulted in windows being smashed.

• Regular noise nuisance for residents living nearby, which goes on into the early hours.

• Bar staff serving customers long after closing time.

Now the pub’s landlord, Colin Cheevers, will face the police and licensing bosses at a meeting on Thursday.

A number of residents living nearby have also written to the city council in support of the review, with one saying they have to endure “drunken, antisocial, unruly and intimidating behaviour” from customers until as late as 3am, as well as “drunken fights” both outside the pub and further up Anglesea Road.

In their report to the licensing committee, Hampshire police says the licence review has been called in a bid to prevent crime and disorder, and public nuisance.

Mr Cheevers has been designated premises supervisor (DPS) at the pub in Anglesea Road since February 2010, and licence holder since February 2012.

Police say that since he took over in 2010 there has been a rise in alcohol- related disorder after 11pm, while a lack of CCTV has “hampered police investigations of crimes at the premises” – including incidents when Mr Cheevers was the victim.

Police were called to The Griffin Inn in May 2010 when there were reports of a fight outside the pub with baseball bats, after two men had been refused entry.

Two months later officers were called after being told a customer had been threatened with a bar stool. Officers say there has been a string of fights and incidents where windows were smashed over the past four years, including one brawl on November 28 last year where windows were smashed again.

Some of the incidents have happened after the pub’s licensed closing time of 12.30am, with witnesses reporting that drinkers were being served until at least 1.30am.

Police say the “catalogue of incidents show that Mr Cheevers is not suitable to hold the premises licence or continue with the responsibility of DPS”.

Officers are also concerned that CCTV has not been provided to help with some incidents, including one where thieves broke in, smashed a fruit machine and ran off with cash last October.

They say they have taken the step of calling for the licence to be revoked after issuing Mr Cheevers with a number of warnings.

Concluding their report, the police said if the licence is not revoked it should be suspended for six months and Mr Cheevers removed as DPS.

Mr Cheevers told the Daily Echo that he was hopeful the situation could be resolved adding that he is in discussions with the police over reducing opening hours, installing a new CCTV system and replacing himself as DPS with bar manager Christine Coleman.

He said: “We are taking measures.

The incidents were over a long period of time, they were not happening every night.

“There have been some problems. The reason most of them happened was when we refused people entry into the pub, so they kicked off outside.

“We were doing our duty by not letting them in.”

The move comes less than a week after police also presented a dossier against another Southampton pub, The Dorchester Arms in Onslow Road, Bevois Valley.

As a result, that establishment will close later this month.

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10:01am Tue 12 Aug 14

Kirsty666 says...

Tesco express?
Tesco express? Kirsty666
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10:36am Tue 12 Aug 14

Always something to say says...

Soon to be a non specified religious place of education.
Soon to be a non specified religious place of education. Always something to say
  • Score: -2

10:48am Tue 12 Aug 14

Kirsty666 says...

Asda Mini??
Asda Mini?? Kirsty666
  • Score: 0

10:57am Tue 12 Aug 14

saint61 says...

Police compiled a dossier of bad behaviour at the Shirley pub going back to 2010

going back to 1970 more like, I remember the pub being the same then
Police compiled a dossier of bad behaviour at the Shirley pub going back to 2010 going back to 1970 more like, I remember the pub being the same then saint61
  • Score: 31

11:38am Tue 12 Aug 14

Moonraker1983 says...

Closing the pub won't solve the underlying issues though, it will only displace to other venues in the near vicinity.

Obi-Wan Kenobi was right when he said "The Griffin Inn: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious."
Closing the pub won't solve the underlying issues though, it will only displace to other venues in the near vicinity. Obi-Wan Kenobi was right when he said "The Griffin Inn: You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious." Moonraker1983
  • Score: 22

11:59am Tue 12 Aug 14

itsnotjustice says...

i know this pub is a dump, but i fail to see why the fights with baseball bats is mentioned... it clearly states they were refused entry, so the pub is not to blame for that.
i know this pub is a dump, but i fail to see why the fights with baseball bats is mentioned... it clearly states they were refused entry, so the pub is not to blame for that. itsnotjustice
  • Score: 14

12:12pm Tue 12 Aug 14

elvisimo says...

Kirsty666 wrote:
Asda Mini??
they make cars?
[quote][p][bold]Kirsty666[/bold] wrote: Asda Mini??[/p][/quote]they make cars? elvisimo
  • Score: 4

12:24pm Tue 12 Aug 14

From the sidelines says...

Beginning to wonder why the police are dredging up so much history to make a case.

Is it a case that one of their number was refused his free (protection) drinks, so revenge must be taken, pour encourgaer les autres?
Beginning to wonder why the police are dredging up so much history to make a case. Is it a case that one of their number was refused his free (protection) drinks, so revenge must be taken, pour encourgaer les autres? From the sidelines
  • Score: -19

12:51pm Tue 12 Aug 14

03alpe01 says...

You wouldn't get this kind of trouble in a 'landmark' Tesco Express, a 'luxury' One Stop or a 'flagship' Sainsbury's Local!
You wouldn't get this kind of trouble in a 'landmark' Tesco Express, a 'luxury' One Stop or a 'flagship' Sainsbury's Local! 03alpe01
  • Score: 7

1:01pm Tue 12 Aug 14

ottostrasser says...

Alcohol fueled violence in a pub ? Surely not.
Alcohol fueled violence in a pub ? Surely not. ottostrasser
  • Score: 12

1:17pm Tue 12 Aug 14

SNUGGLES 78 says...

what a boring dump this town will be.
what a boring dump this town will be. SNUGGLES 78
  • Score: 3

1:22pm Tue 12 Aug 14

saint61 says...

SNUGGLES 78 wrote:
what a boring dump this town will be.
is Shirley not that already?......boring and a dump
[quote][p][bold]SNUGGLES 78[/bold] wrote: what a boring dump this town will be.[/p][/quote]is Shirley not that already?......boring and a dump saint61
  • Score: 11

1:27pm Tue 12 Aug 14

Dai Rear says...

If it's a sump for the useless and feckless there are 2 arguments for leaving it. First the dross won't spoil things for other pubs and second PC Noddy and Police Dog Ralph know where the wastes of oxygen are of an evening.
If it's a sump for the useless and feckless there are 2 arguments for leaving it. First the dross won't spoil things for other pubs and second PC Noddy and Police Dog Ralph know where the wastes of oxygen are of an evening. Dai Rear
  • Score: 15

1:29pm Tue 12 Aug 14

StevenAus says...

Seriously, closing down everything is not the answer. This pub has been there a long time. Take measures and sort it but don't close everywhere, you just move the issues. Many people use these places and are not the violent type, they just want to socialise and have a quiet drink. That is their right.
Seriously, closing down everything is not the answer. This pub has been there a long time. Take measures and sort it but don't close everywhere, you just move the issues. Many people use these places and are not the violent type, they just want to socialise and have a quiet drink. That is their right. StevenAus
  • Score: 13

1:46pm Tue 12 Aug 14

Big Mac says...

StevenAus wrote:
Seriously, closing down everything is not the answer. This pub has been there a long time. Take measures and sort it but don't close everywhere, you just move the issues. Many people use these places and are not the violent type, they just want to socialise and have a quiet drink. That is their right.
A game of dominos then, or a round of baseball?
[quote][p][bold]StevenAus[/bold] wrote: Seriously, closing down everything is not the answer. This pub has been there a long time. Take measures and sort it but don't close everywhere, you just move the issues. Many people use these places and are not the violent type, they just want to socialise and have a quiet drink. That is their right.[/p][/quote]A game of dominos then, or a round of baseball? Big Mac
  • Score: -1

1:59pm Tue 12 Aug 14

camerajuan says...

Shutting down will just shift the morons onto another pub. The pub isn't the issue.
Shutting down will just shift the morons onto another pub. The pub isn't the issue. camerajuan
  • Score: 16

3:28pm Tue 12 Aug 14

sink7021 says...

The Griffin Pub has been apart of the local community for generations, and now is under threat due to the staff doing there jobs. The Griffin Pub has been a local watering hole for my residence in the Shirley area, and is generally a fantastic local for the residence, the licencing authority and police are trying to close the pub due to the staff refusing entry to the small minority of "trouble makers" in the area which has resulted in the police being called to defuse the situation, like there paid to do might I add, and because of this small minority causing anti social behaviour, the pub is now being penalised for that said minority causing criminal damage, assaults on customers and targeting the pub on a vendetta to the local pub.
Closing this pub will not solve nothing, it will only move to the next location and happen there, until the licencing authority and police have every good pub in Southampton closed, The Police and the Local authority should be working together to sort that minority out by issuing those people with ASBO's and locking them up to make this a safer and happier community and then this problem will be solved.

Work with the pub and not against them, there is only so much the staff can do to keep there customers safe but without the backing of the police and local authorities, this will just get worst, until there is no where for the communities to socialize, so please SAVE THE GRIFFIN PUB
The Griffin Pub has been apart of the local community for generations, and now is under threat due to the staff doing there jobs. The Griffin Pub has been a local watering hole for my residence in the Shirley area, and is generally a fantastic local for the residence, the licencing authority and police are trying to close the pub due to the staff refusing entry to the small minority of "trouble makers" in the area which has resulted in the police being called to defuse the situation, like there paid to do might I add, and because of this small minority causing anti social behaviour, the pub is now being penalised for that said minority causing criminal damage, assaults on customers and targeting the pub on a vendetta to the local pub. Closing this pub will not solve nothing, it will only move to the next location and happen there, until the licencing authority and police have every good pub in Southampton closed, The Police and the Local authority should be working together to sort that minority out by issuing those people with ASBO's and locking them up to make this a safer and happier community and then this problem will be solved. Work with the pub and not against them, there is only so much the staff can do to keep there customers safe but without the backing of the police and local authorities, this will just get worst, until there is no where for the communities to socialize, so please SAVE THE GRIFFIN PUB sink7021
  • Score: 6

3:53pm Tue 12 Aug 14

tracker says...

sink7021 wrote:
The Griffin Pub has been apart of the local community for generations, and now is under threat due to the staff doing there jobs. The Griffin Pub has been a local watering hole for my residence in the Shirley area, and is generally a fantastic local for the residence, the licencing authority and police are trying to close the pub due to the staff refusing entry to the small minority of "trouble makers" in the area which has resulted in the police being called to defuse the situation, like there paid to do might I add, and because of this small minority causing anti social behaviour, the pub is now being penalised for that said minority causing criminal damage, assaults on customers and targeting the pub on a vendetta to the local pub.
Closing this pub will not solve nothing, it will only move to the next location and happen there, until the licencing authority and police have every good pub in Southampton closed, The Police and the Local authority should be working together to sort that minority out by issuing those people with ASBO's and locking them up to make this a safer and happier community and then this problem will be solved.

Work with the pub and not against them, there is only so much the staff can do to keep there customers safe but without the backing of the police and local authorities, this will just get worst, until there is no where for the communities to socialize, so please SAVE THE GRIFFIN PUB
Residents ffs
[quote][p][bold]sink7021[/bold] wrote: The Griffin Pub has been apart of the local community for generations, and now is under threat due to the staff doing there jobs. The Griffin Pub has been a local watering hole for my residence in the Shirley area, and is generally a fantastic local for the residence, the licencing authority and police are trying to close the pub due to the staff refusing entry to the small minority of "trouble makers" in the area which has resulted in the police being called to defuse the situation, like there paid to do might I add, and because of this small minority causing anti social behaviour, the pub is now being penalised for that said minority causing criminal damage, assaults on customers and targeting the pub on a vendetta to the local pub. Closing this pub will not solve nothing, it will only move to the next location and happen there, until the licencing authority and police have every good pub in Southampton closed, The Police and the Local authority should be working together to sort that minority out by issuing those people with ASBO's and locking them up to make this a safer and happier community and then this problem will be solved. Work with the pub and not against them, there is only so much the staff can do to keep there customers safe but without the backing of the police and local authorities, this will just get worst, until there is no where for the communities to socialize, so please SAVE THE GRIFFIN PUB[/p][/quote]Residents ffs tracker
  • Score: 1

4:34pm Tue 12 Aug 14

Sophie77 says...

Think it's a disgrace that a pub is being punished for refusing service to trouble makers.. It's keeping good customers safe always a great laugh don't think it's fair to expect staff to put themselves at risk for a job the police should be doing that's what they are suppose to do keep you safe but again the good and hard working people being punished for the trouble markers of Shirley ... Think you should help the pub build and not close it down there will just be more anti social behaviour on the streets or another poor landlord to get punished for police not helping defuse situations ! Save the pub
Think it's a disgrace that a pub is being punished for refusing service to trouble makers.. It's keeping good customers safe always a great laugh don't think it's fair to expect staff to put themselves at risk for a job the police should be doing that's what they are suppose to do keep you safe but again the good and hard working people being punished for the trouble markers of Shirley ... Think you should help the pub build and not close it down there will just be more anti social behaviour on the streets or another poor landlord to get punished for police not helping defuse situations ! Save the pub Sophie77
  • Score: 6

6:05pm Tue 12 Aug 14

cowley says...

Got to love the mutant mile. ;-)
Got to love the mutant mile. ;-) cowley
  • Score: 5

6:09pm Tue 12 Aug 14

loosehead says...

I use to drink in the Griffin & on Sunday nights it would get packed because of the live music there was no trouble yet neighbours who moved to the area knowing there was a pub complained.
We Have Denham fighting to keep pubs open even trying to get the planning laws changed & here's our local police shutting this pub & others?
I worked on the door of the Southerners we had our shirts ripped off trying to stop drug fuelled idiots getting in.
it was the pub that got blamed for the trouble even though they were never in it.
Maybe if the police worked with the landlord.put in a plain clothes officer to see exactly what was happening & how to change it they wouldn't be trying to actually shut a viable pub.
I use to drink in the Griffin & on Sunday nights it would get packed because of the live music there was no trouble yet neighbours who moved to the area knowing there was a pub complained. We Have Denham fighting to keep pubs open even trying to get the planning laws changed & here's our local police shutting this pub & others? I worked on the door of the Southerners we had our shirts ripped off trying to stop drug fuelled idiots getting in. it was the pub that got blamed for the trouble even though they were never in it. Maybe if the police worked with the landlord.put in a plain clothes officer to see exactly what was happening & how to change it they wouldn't be trying to actually shut a viable pub. loosehead
  • Score: 8

6:10pm Tue 12 Aug 14

cowley says...

Sophie77 wrote:
Think it's a disgrace that a pub is being punished for refusing service to trouble makers.. It's keeping good customers safe always a great laugh don't think it's fair to expect staff to put themselves at risk for a job the police should be doing that's what they are suppose to do keep you safe but again the good and hard working people being punished for the trouble markers of Shirley ... Think you should help the pub build and not close it down there will just be more anti social behaviour on the streets or another poor landlord to get punished for police not helping defuse situations ! Save the pub
To be fair the pub is a stinking hole.
[quote][p][bold]Sophie77[/bold] wrote: Think it's a disgrace that a pub is being punished for refusing service to trouble makers.. It's keeping good customers safe always a great laugh don't think it's fair to expect staff to put themselves at risk for a job the police should be doing that's what they are suppose to do keep you safe but again the good and hard working people being punished for the trouble markers of Shirley ... Think you should help the pub build and not close it down there will just be more anti social behaviour on the streets or another poor landlord to get punished for police not helping defuse situations ! Save the pub[/p][/quote]To be fair the pub is a stinking hole. cowley
  • Score: 1

6:11pm Tue 12 Aug 14

eurogordi says...

Police wanting to close another pub? Okay, there may have been problems but surely the police have some responsibility too? I pay my taxes but it seems the police do less and less these days, preferring an easy life and expecting everyone else to control disorderly behaviour. Perhaps there are some issues with the landlord and those should be dealt with, but it also seems that some of the problems would have required police support.
Police wanting to close another pub? Okay, there may have been problems but surely the police have some responsibility too? I pay my taxes but it seems the police do less and less these days, preferring an easy life and expecting everyone else to control disorderly behaviour. Perhaps there are some issues with the landlord and those should be dealt with, but it also seems that some of the problems would have required police support. eurogordi
  • Score: 8

6:12pm Tue 12 Aug 14

loosehead says...

sink7021 wrote:
The Griffin Pub has been apart of the local community for generations, and now is under threat due to the staff doing there jobs. The Griffin Pub has been a local watering hole for my residence in the Shirley area, and is generally a fantastic local for the residence, the licencing authority and police are trying to close the pub due to the staff refusing entry to the small minority of "trouble makers" in the area which has resulted in the police being called to defuse the situation, like there paid to do might I add, and because of this small minority causing anti social behaviour, the pub is now being penalised for that said minority causing criminal damage, assaults on customers and targeting the pub on a vendetta to the local pub.
Closing this pub will not solve nothing, it will only move to the next location and happen there, until the licencing authority and police have every good pub in Southampton closed, The Police and the Local authority should be working together to sort that minority out by issuing those people with ASBO's and locking them up to make this a safer and happier community and then this problem will be solved.

Work with the pub and not against them, there is only so much the staff can do to keep there customers safe but without the backing of the police and local authorities, this will just get worst, until there is no where for the communities to socialize, so please SAVE THE GRIFFIN PUB
get a cross group together & go with the Landlord to fight the appeal.
[quote][p][bold]sink7021[/bold] wrote: The Griffin Pub has been apart of the local community for generations, and now is under threat due to the staff doing there jobs. The Griffin Pub has been a local watering hole for my residence in the Shirley area, and is generally a fantastic local for the residence, the licencing authority and police are trying to close the pub due to the staff refusing entry to the small minority of "trouble makers" in the area which has resulted in the police being called to defuse the situation, like there paid to do might I add, and because of this small minority causing anti social behaviour, the pub is now being penalised for that said minority causing criminal damage, assaults on customers and targeting the pub on a vendetta to the local pub. Closing this pub will not solve nothing, it will only move to the next location and happen there, until the licencing authority and police have every good pub in Southampton closed, The Police and the Local authority should be working together to sort that minority out by issuing those people with ASBO's and locking them up to make this a safer and happier community and then this problem will be solved. Work with the pub and not against them, there is only so much the staff can do to keep there customers safe but without the backing of the police and local authorities, this will just get worst, until there is no where for the communities to socialize, so please SAVE THE GRIFFIN PUB[/p][/quote]get a cross group together & go with the Landlord to fight the appeal. loosehead
  • Score: 0

6:12pm Tue 12 Aug 14

loosehead says...

loosehead wrote:
sink7021 wrote:
The Griffin Pub has been apart of the local community for generations, and now is under threat due to the staff doing there jobs. The Griffin Pub has been a local watering hole for my residence in the Shirley area, and is generally a fantastic local for the residence, the licencing authority and police are trying to close the pub due to the staff refusing entry to the small minority of "trouble makers" in the area which has resulted in the police being called to defuse the situation, like there paid to do might I add, and because of this small minority causing anti social behaviour, the pub is now being penalised for that said minority causing criminal damage, assaults on customers and targeting the pub on a vendetta to the local pub.
Closing this pub will not solve nothing, it will only move to the next location and happen there, until the licencing authority and police have every good pub in Southampton closed, The Police and the Local authority should be working together to sort that minority out by issuing those people with ASBO's and locking them up to make this a safer and happier community and then this problem will be solved.

Work with the pub and not against them, there is only so much the staff can do to keep there customers safe but without the backing of the police and local authorities, this will just get worst, until there is no where for the communities to socialize, so please SAVE THE GRIFFIN PUB
get a cross group together & go with the Landlord to fight the appeal.
I meant men & women.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sink7021[/bold] wrote: The Griffin Pub has been apart of the local community for generations, and now is under threat due to the staff doing there jobs. The Griffin Pub has been a local watering hole for my residence in the Shirley area, and is generally a fantastic local for the residence, the licencing authority and police are trying to close the pub due to the staff refusing entry to the small minority of "trouble makers" in the area which has resulted in the police being called to defuse the situation, like there paid to do might I add, and because of this small minority causing anti social behaviour, the pub is now being penalised for that said minority causing criminal damage, assaults on customers and targeting the pub on a vendetta to the local pub. Closing this pub will not solve nothing, it will only move to the next location and happen there, until the licencing authority and police have every good pub in Southampton closed, The Police and the Local authority should be working together to sort that minority out by issuing those people with ASBO's and locking them up to make this a safer and happier community and then this problem will be solved. Work with the pub and not against them, there is only so much the staff can do to keep there customers safe but without the backing of the police and local authorities, this will just get worst, until there is no where for the communities to socialize, so please SAVE THE GRIFFIN PUB[/p][/quote]get a cross group together & go with the Landlord to fight the appeal.[/p][/quote]I meant men & women. loosehead
  • Score: -2

8:09pm Tue 12 Aug 14

H0ckeyd says...

sink7021 wrote:
The Griffin Pub has been apart of the local community for generations, and now is under threat due to the staff doing there jobs. The Griffin Pub has been a local watering hole for my residence in the Shirley area, and is generally a fantastic local for the residence, the licencing authority and police are trying to close the pub due to the staff refusing entry to the small minority of "trouble makers" in the area which has resulted in the police being called to defuse the situation, like there paid to do might I add, and because of this small minority causing anti social behaviour, the pub is now being penalised for that said minority causing criminal damage, assaults on customers and targeting the pub on a vendetta to the local pub.
Closing this pub will not solve nothing, it will only move to the next location and happen there, until the licencing authority and police have every good pub in Southampton closed, The Police and the Local authority should be working together to sort that minority out by issuing those people with ASBO's and locking them up to make this a safer and happier community and then this problem will be solved.

Work with the pub and not against them, there is only so much the staff can do to keep there customers safe but without the backing of the police and local authorities, this will just get worst, until there is no where for the communities to socialize, so please SAVE THE GRIFFIN PUB
Has it really been apart of the local community? if so, why not close it down? "will not solve nothing" - Too right good fellow, close it down then because, as you say, it'll solve everything.
[quote][p][bold]sink7021[/bold] wrote: The Griffin Pub has been apart of the local community for generations, and now is under threat due to the staff doing there jobs. The Griffin Pub has been a local watering hole for my residence in the Shirley area, and is generally a fantastic local for the residence, the licencing authority and police are trying to close the pub due to the staff refusing entry to the small minority of "trouble makers" in the area which has resulted in the police being called to defuse the situation, like there paid to do might I add, and because of this small minority causing anti social behaviour, the pub is now being penalised for that said minority causing criminal damage, assaults on customers and targeting the pub on a vendetta to the local pub. Closing this pub will not solve nothing, it will only move to the next location and happen there, until the licencing authority and police have every good pub in Southampton closed, The Police and the Local authority should be working together to sort that minority out by issuing those people with ASBO's and locking them up to make this a safer and happier community and then this problem will be solved. Work with the pub and not against them, there is only so much the staff can do to keep there customers safe but without the backing of the police and local authorities, this will just get worst, until there is no where for the communities to socialize, so please SAVE THE GRIFFIN PUB[/p][/quote]Has it really been apart of the local community? if so, why not close it down? "will not solve nothing" - Too right good fellow, close it down then because, as you say, it'll solve everything. H0ckeyd
  • Score: -1

8:29pm Tue 12 Aug 14

leesa-kim says...

ABOUT TIME !!! thats what i say , the people who are refused entry are not to blame , it is the staff that need to be got rid of all of them including colin , just changing the staff titles and whos name is on the licencse wont make any difference to the trouble , all the staff need to go and have responsible manager and staff who does not use the pub as their own private bar for friends and dont turn a blind eye to drugs and who will keep out the trouble makers not welcome them , and people who are going to keep the place clean and the kitchen clean and not let people in from the public to help , and not let contractors smoke weed who are staying there when children are there , and there wont be no cctv because they dont want to be seen having friends and serving to 3 or 4 in the morning , the landlord colin is the most rudest person i have ever met , and they need someone who doesnt buy cheap wine at a local supermarket , i as a resident nearby hope they lose the licencse and all the staff go and not get reemployed by any new owners and i hope no one is stupid enough to give him or any of them a licence and new pub again , bored it up thats the best thing that could happen , and then the good locals can give the good pubs in the area their business .
ABOUT TIME !!! thats what i say , the people who are refused entry are not to blame , it is the staff that need to be got rid of all of them including colin , just changing the staff titles and whos name is on the licencse wont make any difference to the trouble , all the staff need to go and have responsible manager and staff who does not use the pub as their own private bar for friends and dont turn a blind eye to drugs and who will keep out the trouble makers not welcome them , and people who are going to keep the place clean and the kitchen clean and not let people in from the public to help , and not let contractors smoke weed who are staying there when children are there , and there wont be no cctv because they dont want to be seen having friends and serving to 3 or 4 in the morning , the landlord colin is the most rudest person i have ever met , and they need someone who doesnt buy cheap wine at a local supermarket , i as a resident nearby hope they lose the licencse and all the staff go and not get reemployed by any new owners and i hope no one is stupid enough to give him or any of them a licence and new pub again , bored it up thats the best thing that could happen , and then the good locals can give the good pubs in the area their business . leesa-kim
  • Score: 7

9:51pm Tue 12 Aug 14

Sophie77 says...

leesa-kim wrote:
ABOUT TIME !!! thats what i say , the people who are refused entry are not to blame , it is the staff that need to be got rid of all of them including colin , just changing the staff titles and whos name is on the licencse wont make any difference to the trouble , all the staff need to go and have responsible manager and staff who does not use the pub as their own private bar for friends and dont turn a blind eye to drugs and who will keep out the trouble makers not welcome them , and people who are going to keep the place clean and the kitchen clean and not let people in from the public to help , and not let contractors smoke weed who are staying there when children are there , and there wont be no cctv because they dont want to be seen having friends and serving to 3 or 4 in the morning , the landlord colin is the most rudest person i have ever met , and they need someone who doesnt buy cheap wine at a local supermarket , i as a resident nearby hope they lose the licencse and all the staff go and not get reemployed by any new owners and i hope no one is stupid enough to give him or any of them a licence and new pub again , bored it up thats the best thing that could happen , and then the good locals can give the good pubs in the area their business .
This person must of been barred or just one of those people who don't enjoy a good friendly atmosphere! I enjoy every time I go in the always greeted nicely and always have a laugh and a good night
[quote][p][bold]leesa-kim[/bold] wrote: ABOUT TIME !!! thats what i say , the people who are refused entry are not to blame , it is the staff that need to be got rid of all of them including colin , just changing the staff titles and whos name is on the licencse wont make any difference to the trouble , all the staff need to go and have responsible manager and staff who does not use the pub as their own private bar for friends and dont turn a blind eye to drugs and who will keep out the trouble makers not welcome them , and people who are going to keep the place clean and the kitchen clean and not let people in from the public to help , and not let contractors smoke weed who are staying there when children are there , and there wont be no cctv because they dont want to be seen having friends and serving to 3 or 4 in the morning , the landlord colin is the most rudest person i have ever met , and they need someone who doesnt buy cheap wine at a local supermarket , i as a resident nearby hope they lose the licencse and all the staff go and not get reemployed by any new owners and i hope no one is stupid enough to give him or any of them a licence and new pub again , bored it up thats the best thing that could happen , and then the good locals can give the good pubs in the area their business .[/p][/quote]This person must of been barred or just one of those people who don't enjoy a good friendly atmosphere! I enjoy every time I go in the always greeted nicely and always have a laugh and a good night Sophie77
  • Score: 0

10:09pm Tue 12 Aug 14

sotonbigboy88 says...

Good riddance is what I would say. Colin is a sly, devious man. He took over at this dump and brought his drug dealers etc along with him. I nastier more vile person I have never met. Let alone mention the staff he has working there... The best outcome would be to shut the pub indefinitely and ban Colin from running anymore licensed premises....

As for him being a victim 9 times out of 10 he is the one whom instigated the trouble in the first place. The pub is full of the scum of the surrounding areas. Do us all a favour and get rid of it and him...
Good riddance is what I would say. Colin is a sly, devious man. He took over at this dump and brought his drug dealers etc along with him. I nastier more vile person I have never met. Let alone mention the staff he has working there... The best outcome would be to shut the pub indefinitely and ban Colin from running anymore licensed premises.... As for him being a victim 9 times out of 10 he is the one whom instigated the trouble in the first place. The pub is full of the scum of the surrounding areas. Do us all a favour and get rid of it and him... sotonbigboy88
  • Score: 4

9:19am Wed 13 Aug 14

Dai Rear says...

leesa-kim wrote:
ABOUT TIME !!! thats what i say , the people who are refused entry are not to blame , it is the staff that need to be got rid of all of them including colin , just changing the staff titles and whos name is on the licencse wont make any difference to the trouble , all the staff need to go and have responsible manager and staff who does not use the pub as their own private bar for friends and dont turn a blind eye to drugs and who will keep out the trouble makers not welcome them , and people who are going to keep the place clean and the kitchen clean and not let people in from the public to help , and not let contractors smoke weed who are staying there when children are there , and there wont be no cctv because they dont want to be seen having friends and serving to 3 or 4 in the morning , the landlord colin is the most rudest person i have ever met , and they need someone who doesnt buy cheap wine at a local supermarket , i as a resident nearby hope they lose the licencse and all the staff go and not get reemployed by any new owners and i hope no one is stupid enough to give him or any of them a licence and new pub again , bored it up thats the best thing that could happen , and then the good locals can give the good pubs in the area their business .
Where oh where is the cheap wine? I've been searching all my life and the best I can do is about £4.25 a bottle for stuff which'd cost €1.20 in France.
[quote][p][bold]leesa-kim[/bold] wrote: ABOUT TIME !!! thats what i say , the people who are refused entry are not to blame , it is the staff that need to be got rid of all of them including colin , just changing the staff titles and whos name is on the licencse wont make any difference to the trouble , all the staff need to go and have responsible manager and staff who does not use the pub as their own private bar for friends and dont turn a blind eye to drugs and who will keep out the trouble makers not welcome them , and people who are going to keep the place clean and the kitchen clean and not let people in from the public to help , and not let contractors smoke weed who are staying there when children are there , and there wont be no cctv because they dont want to be seen having friends and serving to 3 or 4 in the morning , the landlord colin is the most rudest person i have ever met , and they need someone who doesnt buy cheap wine at a local supermarket , i as a resident nearby hope they lose the licencse and all the staff go and not get reemployed by any new owners and i hope no one is stupid enough to give him or any of them a licence and new pub again , bored it up thats the best thing that could happen , and then the good locals can give the good pubs in the area their business .[/p][/quote]Where oh where is the cheap wine? I've been searching all my life and the best I can do is about £4.25 a bottle for stuff which'd cost €1.20 in France. Dai Rear
  • Score: 1

9:21am Wed 13 Aug 14

Dai Rear says...

sotonbigboy88 wrote:
Good riddance is what I would say. Colin is a sly, devious man. He took over at this dump and brought his drug dealers etc along with him. I nastier more vile person I have never met. Let alone mention the staff he has working there... The best outcome would be to shut the pub indefinitely and ban Colin from running anymore licensed premises....

As for him being a victim 9 times out of 10 he is the one whom instigated the trouble in the first place. The pub is full of the scum of the surrounding areas. Do us all a favour and get rid of it and him...
Oh don't be so mealy-mouthed. Say what you really think.
[quote][p][bold]sotonbigboy88[/bold] wrote: Good riddance is what I would say. Colin is a sly, devious man. He took over at this dump and brought his drug dealers etc along with him. I nastier more vile person I have never met. Let alone mention the staff he has working there... The best outcome would be to shut the pub indefinitely and ban Colin from running anymore licensed premises.... As for him being a victim 9 times out of 10 he is the one whom instigated the trouble in the first place. The pub is full of the scum of the surrounding areas. Do us all a favour and get rid of it and him...[/p][/quote]Oh don't be so mealy-mouthed. Say what you really think. Dai Rear
  • Score: 3

9:35am Wed 13 Aug 14

MissSaint60 says...

itsnotjustice wrote:
i know this pub is a dump, but i fail to see why the fights with baseball bats is mentioned... it clearly states they were refused entry, so the pub is not to blame for that.
...When it was the landlord WITH the baseball bat......I'd say its important to mention!
[quote][p][bold]itsnotjustice[/bold] wrote: i know this pub is a dump, but i fail to see why the fights with baseball bats is mentioned... it clearly states they were refused entry, so the pub is not to blame for that.[/p][/quote]...When it was the landlord WITH the baseball bat......I'd say its important to mention! MissSaint60
  • Score: 0

9:41am Wed 13 Aug 14

MissSaint60 says...

leesa-kim wrote:
ABOUT TIME !!! thats what i say , the people who are refused entry are not to blame , it is the staff that need to be got rid of all of them including colin , just changing the staff titles and whos name is on the licencse wont make any difference to the trouble , all the staff need to go and have responsible manager and staff who does not use the pub as their own private bar for friends and dont turn a blind eye to drugs and who will keep out the trouble makers not welcome them , and people who are going to keep the place clean and the kitchen clean and not let people in from the public to help , and not let contractors smoke weed who are staying there when children are there , and there wont be no cctv because they dont want to be seen having friends and serving to 3 or 4 in the morning , the landlord colin is the most rudest person i have ever met , and they need someone who doesnt buy cheap wine at a local supermarket , i as a resident nearby hope they lose the licencse and all the staff go and not get reemployed by any new owners and i hope no one is stupid enough to give him or any of them a licence and new pub again , bored it up thats the best thing that could happen , and then the good locals can give the good pubs in the area their business .
This is the smartest thing I've seen written here!
[quote][p][bold]leesa-kim[/bold] wrote: ABOUT TIME !!! thats what i say , the people who are refused entry are not to blame , it is the staff that need to be got rid of all of them including colin , just changing the staff titles and whos name is on the licencse wont make any difference to the trouble , all the staff need to go and have responsible manager and staff who does not use the pub as their own private bar for friends and dont turn a blind eye to drugs and who will keep out the trouble makers not welcome them , and people who are going to keep the place clean and the kitchen clean and not let people in from the public to help , and not let contractors smoke weed who are staying there when children are there , and there wont be no cctv because they dont want to be seen having friends and serving to 3 or 4 in the morning , the landlord colin is the most rudest person i have ever met , and they need someone who doesnt buy cheap wine at a local supermarket , i as a resident nearby hope they lose the licencse and all the staff go and not get reemployed by any new owners and i hope no one is stupid enough to give him or any of them a licence and new pub again , bored it up thats the best thing that could happen , and then the good locals can give the good pubs in the area their business .[/p][/quote]This is the smartest thing I've seen written here! MissSaint60
  • Score: 2

9:47am Wed 13 Aug 14

MissSaint60 says...

sotonbigboy88 wrote:
Good riddance is what I would say. Colin is a sly, devious man. He took over at this dump and brought his drug dealers etc along with him. I nastier more vile person I have never met. Let alone mention the staff he has working there... The best outcome would be to shut the pub indefinitely and ban Colin from running anymore licensed premises....

As for him being a victim 9 times out of 10 he is the one whom instigated the trouble in the first place. The pub is full of the scum of the surrounding areas. Do us all a favour and get rid of it and him...
The police and licencing should take a close look at the comments like this one.....
[quote][p][bold]sotonbigboy88[/bold] wrote: Good riddance is what I would say. Colin is a sly, devious man. He took over at this dump and brought his drug dealers etc along with him. I nastier more vile person I have never met. Let alone mention the staff he has working there... The best outcome would be to shut the pub indefinitely and ban Colin from running anymore licensed premises.... As for him being a victim 9 times out of 10 he is the one whom instigated the trouble in the first place. The pub is full of the scum of the surrounding areas. Do us all a favour and get rid of it and him...[/p][/quote]The police and licencing should take a close look at the comments like this one..... MissSaint60
  • Score: 3

10:30am Wed 13 Aug 14

Sophie77 says...

Comments some people put up here it's a joke.. Negative comments coming from people who probably didn't get in .. 2 and half years I've been drinking in there and haven't had a problem only from people moaning cause they've been refused entry it's a joke... from trying to keep people safe on the inside your punished for wot happens on the outside as for Colin been sly and vile I've only every know him to be kind and fair .. the person that wrote that should take a leaf outta there own book.... disgruntle much!
Comments some people put up here it's a joke.. Negative comments coming from people who probably didn't get in .. 2 and half years I've been drinking in there and haven't had a problem only from people moaning cause they've been refused entry it's a joke... from trying to keep people safe on the inside your punished for wot happens on the outside as for Colin been sly and vile I've only every know him to be kind and fair .. the person that wrote that should take a leaf outta there own book.... disgruntle much! Sophie77
  • Score: -3

1:02pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Kirsty666 says...

Dai Rear wrote:
leesa-kim wrote:
ABOUT TIME !!! thats what i say , the people who are refused entry are not to blame , it is the staff that need to be got rid of all of them including colin , just changing the staff titles and whos name is on the licencse wont make any difference to the trouble , all the staff need to go and have responsible manager and staff who does not use the pub as their own private bar for friends and dont turn a blind eye to drugs and who will keep out the trouble makers not welcome them , and people who are going to keep the place clean and the kitchen clean and not let people in from the public to help , and not let contractors smoke weed who are staying there when children are there , and there wont be no cctv because they dont want to be seen having friends and serving to 3 or 4 in the morning , the landlord colin is the most rudest person i have ever met , and they need someone who doesnt buy cheap wine at a local supermarket , i as a resident nearby hope they lose the licencse and all the staff go and not get reemployed by any new owners and i hope no one is stupid enough to give him or any of them a licence and new pub again , bored it up thats the best thing that could happen , and then the good locals can give the good pubs in the area their business .
Where oh where is the cheap wine? I've been searching all my life and the best I can do is about £4.25 a bottle for stuff which'd cost €1.20 in France.
Apparently cheap stuff you can get in a premier shop Cassini they call it about £2 a bottle
[quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]leesa-kim[/bold] wrote: ABOUT TIME !!! thats what i say , the people who are refused entry are not to blame , it is the staff that need to be got rid of all of them including colin , just changing the staff titles and whos name is on the licencse wont make any difference to the trouble , all the staff need to go and have responsible manager and staff who does not use the pub as their own private bar for friends and dont turn a blind eye to drugs and who will keep out the trouble makers not welcome them , and people who are going to keep the place clean and the kitchen clean and not let people in from the public to help , and not let contractors smoke weed who are staying there when children are there , and there wont be no cctv because they dont want to be seen having friends and serving to 3 or 4 in the morning , the landlord colin is the most rudest person i have ever met , and they need someone who doesnt buy cheap wine at a local supermarket , i as a resident nearby hope they lose the licencse and all the staff go and not get reemployed by any new owners and i hope no one is stupid enough to give him or any of them a licence and new pub again , bored it up thats the best thing that could happen , and then the good locals can give the good pubs in the area their business .[/p][/quote]Where oh where is the cheap wine? I've been searching all my life and the best I can do is about £4.25 a bottle for stuff which'd cost €1.20 in France.[/p][/quote]Apparently cheap stuff you can get in a premier shop Cassini they call it about £2 a bottle Kirsty666
  • Score: 1

3:31pm Wed 13 Aug 14

Dai Rear says...

Kirsty666 wrote:
Dai Rear wrote:
leesa-kim wrote:
ABOUT TIME !!! thats what i say , the people who are refused entry are not to blame , it is the staff that need to be got rid of all of them including colin , just changing the staff titles and whos name is on the licencse wont make any difference to the trouble , all the staff need to go and have responsible manager and staff who does not use the pub as their own private bar for friends and dont turn a blind eye to drugs and who will keep out the trouble makers not welcome them , and people who are going to keep the place clean and the kitchen clean and not let people in from the public to help , and not let contractors smoke weed who are staying there when children are there , and there wont be no cctv because they dont want to be seen having friends and serving to 3 or 4 in the morning , the landlord colin is the most rudest person i have ever met , and they need someone who doesnt buy cheap wine at a local supermarket , i as a resident nearby hope they lose the licencse and all the staff go and not get reemployed by any new owners and i hope no one is stupid enough to give him or any of them a licence and new pub again , bored it up thats the best thing that could happen , and then the good locals can give the good pubs in the area their business .
Where oh where is the cheap wine? I've been searching all my life and the best I can do is about £4.25 a bottle for stuff which'd cost €1.20 in France.
Apparently cheap stuff you can get in a premier shop Cassini they call it about £2 a bottle
It sounds like Lambrini, the alkie's favourite tipple, but that's only pretend wine. Actually it's perry. Are you sure Cassini's not perry?
[quote][p][bold]Kirsty666[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dai Rear[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]leesa-kim[/bold] wrote: ABOUT TIME !!! thats what i say , the people who are refused entry are not to blame , it is the staff that need to be got rid of all of them including colin , just changing the staff titles and whos name is on the licencse wont make any difference to the trouble , all the staff need to go and have responsible manager and staff who does not use the pub as their own private bar for friends and dont turn a blind eye to drugs and who will keep out the trouble makers not welcome them , and people who are going to keep the place clean and the kitchen clean and not let people in from the public to help , and not let contractors smoke weed who are staying there when children are there , and there wont be no cctv because they dont want to be seen having friends and serving to 3 or 4 in the morning , the landlord colin is the most rudest person i have ever met , and they need someone who doesnt buy cheap wine at a local supermarket , i as a resident nearby hope they lose the licencse and all the staff go and not get reemployed by any new owners and i hope no one is stupid enough to give him or any of them a licence and new pub again , bored it up thats the best thing that could happen , and then the good locals can give the good pubs in the area their business .[/p][/quote]Where oh where is the cheap wine? I've been searching all my life and the best I can do is about £4.25 a bottle for stuff which'd cost €1.20 in France.[/p][/quote]Apparently cheap stuff you can get in a premier shop Cassini they call it about £2 a bottle[/p][/quote]It sounds like Lambrini, the alkie's favourite tipple, but that's only pretend wine. Actually it's perry. Are you sure Cassini's not perry? Dai Rear
  • Score: 4

11:14pm Wed 13 Aug 14

nosyneighbour2014 says...

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  • Score: 0

11:17pm Wed 13 Aug 14

nosyneighbour2014 says...

nosyneighbour2014 wrote:
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This is such good news, and I for one am praying The Griffin does get closed down. As a local resident, I am sick to death of no being able to hear myself think when the pub has its awful 'karaoke' nights, and the fights that take place due to differences between the regulars are not the sort of thing anyone should have the chance to see, especially local children.
[quote][p][bold]nosyneighbour2014[/bold] wrote: .[/p][/quote]This is such good news, and I for one am praying The Griffin does get closed down. As a local resident, I am sick to death of no being able to hear myself think when the pub has its awful 'karaoke' nights, and the fights that take place due to differences between the regulars are not the sort of thing anyone should have the chance to see, especially local children. nosyneighbour2014
  • Score: 2

2:34pm Thu 14 Aug 14

MissSaint60 says...

Anyone have an update on this. Wasn't the meeting today?
Anyone have an update on this. Wasn't the meeting today? MissSaint60
  • Score: 0

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