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Mauricio Pochettino was left frustrated as Saints drew 0-0 with Aston Villa.

The Saints boss admitted his side were wasteful in front of goal at Villa Park which meant they failed to win a game they dominated for long spells.

Daily Echo:

He was also frustrated that referee Lee Mason failed to award a penalty when Nathaniel Clyne’s cross appeared to be blocked by the arm of Ryan Bertrand.

He said: “I think we deserved to win.

“We did everything right, we did everything well, except actually score.

“I am very happy with the team’s performance but I’m a little bit sad because we created many chances but were a little bit wasteful as well.”

Pochettino added: “It was a clear penalty.

“You all probably had a better view from the TV but from my point of view it was a clear penalty.

“The linesman as well was quite close. It’s unexplainable to me why that penalty was not given.

Daily Echo:

“We feel hard done by because in the last few games we have had decisions that have not gone our way and if those decisions had gone our way as they should have then we would have more points right now.

“The players do not deserve the calls that have not been given because they should have been given and we would be higher in the table if those decisions had gone our way.”

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5:48pm Sat 19 Apr 14

saintbobby says...

Silly game, this football. Whose idea was it that you only get 3 points if you score more goals than the other team. No extra points for having nearly 70% of the game - AGAIN - and no extra points for referees who do not give us deserved penalties. Just a silly game!

But, it is not boring to remember we might have finished in League 2 just a few years ago. So we have done really, really well and probably better than any other team in the land. Well played, Saints.

However, today I am puzzled just how Crystal Palace have done it again and at West Ham! The report said it is 5 wins on the trot. Not fair!!
Silly game, this football. Whose idea was it that you only get 3 points if you score more goals than the other team. No extra points for having nearly 70% of the game - AGAIN - and no extra points for referees who do not give us deserved penalties. Just a silly game! But, it is not boring to remember we might have finished in League 2 just a few years ago. So we have done really, really well and probably better than any other team in the land. Well played, Saints. However, today I am puzzled just how Crystal Palace have done it again and at West Ham! The report said it is 5 wins on the trot. Not fair!! saintbobby
  • Score: 18

6:55pm Sat 19 Apr 14

Rank Xerox says...

Poch frustrated at Villa draw - me too!!
Poch frustrated at Villa draw - me too!! Rank Xerox
  • Score: 10

7:07pm Sat 19 Apr 14

redsnapper says...

Recall Osvaldo. No sign of him playing for Juve.. Get the fokka back and make him work for all that money we owe.
Recall Osvaldo. No sign of him playing for Juve.. Get the fokka back and make him work for all that money we owe. redsnapper
  • Score: 3

7:08pm Sat 19 Apr 14

peregrine73 says...

Simply convert some of the chances we have made throughout the season and we would be challenging for Europe! Referee decisions would be irrelevant.
Simply convert some of the chances we have made throughout the season and we would be challenging for Europe! Referee decisions would be irrelevant. peregrine73
  • Score: 11

7:12pm Sat 19 Apr 14

Norwegian Saint says...

saintbobby wrote:
Silly game, this football. Whose idea was it that you only get 3 points if you score more goals than the other team. No extra points for having nearly 70% of the game - AGAIN - and no extra points for referees who do not give us deserved penalties. Just a silly game!

But, it is not boring to remember we might have finished in League 2 just a few years ago. So we have done really, really well and probably better than any other team in the land. Well played, Saints.

However, today I am puzzled just how Crystal Palace have done it again and at West Ham! The report said it is 5 wins on the trot. Not fair!!
Best Palace player... Punch, maybe we should have kept him.
[quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: Silly game, this football. Whose idea was it that you only get 3 points if you score more goals than the other team. No extra points for having nearly 70% of the game - AGAIN - and no extra points for referees who do not give us deserved penalties. Just a silly game! But, it is not boring to remember we might have finished in League 2 just a few years ago. So we have done really, really well and probably better than any other team in the land. Well played, Saints. However, today I am puzzled just how Crystal Palace have done it again and at West Ham! The report said it is 5 wins on the trot. Not fair!![/p][/quote]Best Palace player... Punch, maybe we should have kept him. Norwegian Saint
  • Score: 7

7:18pm Sat 19 Apr 14

Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness says...

redsnapper wrote:
Recall Osvaldo. No sign of him playing for Juve.. Get the fokka back and make him work for all that money we owe.
As I said when the bust up with Fonte happened, maybe the solidarity amongst Saints players in favour of Fonte and against Osvaldo was because he has more fight than they do. It was a bad sign that they wanted to send someone packing who had some fight in him. Since Fonte is off the pace a bit and often found wanting, he very likely earned the bust-up with Osvaldo by clogging him one time too many in practice. Better Osvaldo with fight in him than one-half-step-too-sl
ow Fonte.
[quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: Recall Osvaldo. No sign of him playing for Juve.. Get the fokka back and make him work for all that money we owe.[/p][/quote]As I said when the bust up with Fonte happened, maybe the solidarity amongst Saints players in favour of Fonte and against Osvaldo was because he has more fight than they do. It was a bad sign that they wanted to send someone packing who had some fight in him. Since Fonte is off the pace a bit and often found wanting, he very likely earned the bust-up with Osvaldo by clogging him one time too many in practice. Better Osvaldo with fight in him than one-half-step-too-sl ow Fonte. Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness
  • Score: -40

7:23pm Sat 19 Apr 14

Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness says...

Maybe Poch is starting to deal with reality. If he said "wasteful" rather than "unlucky" at least that's a start. If you're "unlucky" every week, Poch, then your team is in the Championship and you're out of a job. So, you better sort out "unlucky" from "out of ideas" before August or that's where Saints will be headed next season if you don't get it sorted. Maybe you could start by selling Wonderboy, "Professional Footballer of the Year," to United or Palace or Cardiff or somebody. How many goals did Wonderboy set up today, happy-clappers?
Maybe Poch is starting to deal with reality. If he said "wasteful" rather than "unlucky" at least that's a start. If you're "unlucky" every week, Poch, then your team is in the Championship and you're out of a job. So, you better sort out "unlucky" from "out of ideas" before August or that's where Saints will be headed next season if you don't get it sorted. Maybe you could start by selling Wonderboy, "Professional Footballer of the Year," to United or Palace or Cardiff or somebody. How many goals did Wonderboy set up today, happy-clappers? Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness
  • Score: -45

7:24pm Sat 19 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Could have been worse today, could have been a Chelsea fan! Sunderland beat them 2 1. Albeit with a dubious penalty!
Could have been worse today, could have been a Chelsea fan! Sunderland beat them 2 1. Albeit with a dubious penalty! OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 8

7:24pm Sat 19 Apr 14

Golden_Salamander says...

So many games today have been decided by penalties.

Swansea 92min; Palace get their given; 2 at Cardiff and now Sunderland 82min

And we get the Ref who fails to give ours YET AGAIN !!!!!!!.
So many games today have been decided by penalties. Swansea 92min; Palace get their given; 2 at Cardiff and now Sunderland 82min And we get the Ref who fails to give ours YET AGAIN !!!!!!!. Golden_Salamander
  • Score: 21

7:34pm Sat 19 Apr 14

redsnapper says...

Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness wrote:
redsnapper wrote:
Recall Osvaldo. No sign of him playing for Juve.. Get the fokka back and make him work for all that money we owe.
As I said when the bust up with Fonte happened, maybe the solidarity amongst Saints players in favour of Fonte and against Osvaldo was because he has more fight than they do. It was a bad sign that they wanted to send someone packing who had some fight in him. Since Fonte is off the pace a bit and often found wanting, he very likely earned the bust-up with Osvaldo by clogging him one time too many in practice. Better Osvaldo with fight in him than one-half-step-too-sl

ow Fonte.
I agree, Fonte is only a regular because there is no competition for his position and he loses concentration far too often.
[quote][p][bold]Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: Recall Osvaldo. No sign of him playing for Juve.. Get the fokka back and make him work for all that money we owe.[/p][/quote]As I said when the bust up with Fonte happened, maybe the solidarity amongst Saints players in favour of Fonte and against Osvaldo was because he has more fight than they do. It was a bad sign that they wanted to send someone packing who had some fight in him. Since Fonte is off the pace a bit and often found wanting, he very likely earned the bust-up with Osvaldo by clogging him one time too many in practice. Better Osvaldo with fight in him than one-half-step-too-sl ow Fonte.[/p][/quote]I agree, Fonte is only a regular because there is no competition for his position and he loses concentration far too often. redsnapper
  • Score: 3

7:35pm Sat 19 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness wrote:
redsnapper wrote:
Recall Osvaldo. No sign of him playing for Juve.. Get the fokka back and make him work for all that money we owe.
As I said when the bust up with Fonte happened, maybe the solidarity amongst Saints players in favour of Fonte and against Osvaldo was because he has more fight than they do. It was a bad sign that they wanted to send someone packing who had some fight in him. Since Fonte is off the pace a bit and often found wanting, he very likely earned the bust-up with Osvaldo by clogging him one time too many in practice. Better Osvaldo with fight in him than one-half-step-too-sl

ow Fonte.
What was your sign on when you said that, I can't recall.
[quote][p][bold]Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: Recall Osvaldo. No sign of him playing for Juve.. Get the fokka back and make him work for all that money we owe.[/p][/quote]As I said when the bust up with Fonte happened, maybe the solidarity amongst Saints players in favour of Fonte and against Osvaldo was because he has more fight than they do. It was a bad sign that they wanted to send someone packing who had some fight in him. Since Fonte is off the pace a bit and often found wanting, he very likely earned the bust-up with Osvaldo by clogging him one time too many in practice. Better Osvaldo with fight in him than one-half-step-too-sl ow Fonte.[/p][/quote]What was your sign on when you said that, I can't recall. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 6

7:35pm Sat 19 Apr 14

SnapperSaint says...

Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness wrote:
Maybe Poch is starting to deal with reality. If he said "wasteful" rather than "unlucky" at least that's a start. If you're "unlucky" every week, Poch, then your team is in the Championship and you're out of a job. So, you better sort out "unlucky" from "out of ideas" before August or that's where Saints will be headed next season if you don't get it sorted. Maybe you could start by selling Wonderboy, "Professional Footballer of the Year," to United or Palace or Cardiff or somebody. How many goals did Wonderboy set up today, happy-clappers?
Saints are not lacking Physical & Mental toughness they just need a striker who can score regularly..they have skill, team spirit, and a great game plan and they are very exciting and interesting to watch.
They certainly don't need anyone who only thinks he can score and when he doesn't (which is what he is very highly paid to do) goes around head butting and p1ssing off his team mates!
Call me a 'Happy Clapper' if you like, because I am happy enough with our performances this season and will certainly clap the team very loudly at the end of the match on May 11th...it's been a great season!
[quote][p][bold]Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness[/bold] wrote: Maybe Poch is starting to deal with reality. If he said "wasteful" rather than "unlucky" at least that's a start. If you're "unlucky" every week, Poch, then your team is in the Championship and you're out of a job. So, you better sort out "unlucky" from "out of ideas" before August or that's where Saints will be headed next season if you don't get it sorted. Maybe you could start by selling Wonderboy, "Professional Footballer of the Year," to United or Palace or Cardiff or somebody. How many goals did Wonderboy set up today, happy-clappers?[/p][/quote]Saints are not lacking Physical & Mental toughness they just need a striker who can score regularly..they have skill, team spirit, and a great game plan and they are very exciting and interesting to watch. They certainly don't need anyone who only thinks he can score and when he doesn't (which is what he is very highly paid to do) goes around head butting and p1ssing off his team mates! Call me a 'Happy Clapper' if you like, because I am happy enough with our performances this season and will certainly clap the team very loudly at the end of the match on May 11th...it's been a great season! SnapperSaint
  • Score: 22

7:37pm Sat 19 Apr 14

Rudolf Hucker says...

definite lack of pace with JRod out, but a deserved point against a team scrapping at the bottom of the table. I am not bothered about the next 3 matches as we are safe, but I am worried about the next 3 months. With Mopo still not signed up, and rumours of us approaching a German manager, I just hope it all works out well in the end.
definite lack of pace with JRod out, but a deserved point against a team scrapping at the bottom of the table. I am not bothered about the next 3 matches as we are safe, but I am worried about the next 3 months. With Mopo still not signed up, and rumours of us approaching a German manager, I just hope it all works out well in the end. Rudolf Hucker
  • Score: 14

7:53pm Sat 19 Apr 14

Shrewdsaint says...

Sam was making runs and looking for the ball from the moment he came on, no one looked to put him through, well may be once and a couple of times we passed square in the box when it was easier to shoot, its like we're scared of missing. Also Nat was getting down the wing then stopping and passing or cutting inside when he had the beating of their fullback and players were ready for a cross. A real frustrating watch but then at the start of the season I would've said any away point is good but we are now so much better. Onwards and upwards.
Sam was making runs and looking for the ball from the moment he came on, no one looked to put him through, well may be once and a couple of times we passed square in the box when it was easier to shoot, its like we're scared of missing. Also Nat was getting down the wing then stopping and passing or cutting inside when he had the beating of their fullback and players were ready for a cross. A real frustrating watch but then at the start of the season I would've said any away point is good but we are now so much better. Onwards and upwards. Shrewdsaint
  • Score: 7

8:16pm Sat 19 Apr 14

Costa Baz says...

It's been obvious, throughout the season, that the final ball and finishing has been inconsistent, but some of you need to see beyond that.
For a large part of the season, we have been very ponderous, around the opponents box, but in recent games this has been changing.

We are now mixing it up, with longer balls down the flanks or over the top, with the timing of the runs getting better and better.

I thought that some of today's one touch passing was as good as it gets, with us getting behind their full backs almost at will. The crossing, today, was better than last week, although still not as consistent as it needs to be.

MP and all Saints fans are aware, that despite having JRod, Lallana and SRL, we still lack that killer instinct. In my opinion we also lack an attacking midfield player who knows when to get in the box, a la Frank Lampard or our very own David Armstrong, from years back. After scoring a few last season, I was expecting more, in this area, from Morgan, but alas no.

Bit by bit we are becoming the finished article. Another out and out striker, plus two attacking midfielders to compete with Adam and Gaston, will, IMO, move us up that next notch.
It's been obvious, throughout the season, that the final ball and finishing has been inconsistent, but some of you need to see beyond that. For a large part of the season, we have been very ponderous, around the opponents box, but in recent games this has been changing. We are now mixing it up, with longer balls down the flanks or over the top, with the timing of the runs getting better and better. I thought that some of today's one touch passing was as good as it gets, with us getting behind their full backs almost at will. The crossing, today, was better than last week, although still not as consistent as it needs to be. MP and all Saints fans are aware, that despite having JRod, Lallana and SRL, we still lack that killer instinct. In my opinion we also lack an attacking midfield player who knows when to get in the box, a la Frank Lampard or our very own David Armstrong, from years back. After scoring a few last season, I was expecting more, in this area, from Morgan, but alas no. Bit by bit we are becoming the finished article. Another out and out striker, plus two attacking midfielders to compete with Adam and Gaston, will, IMO, move us up that next notch. Costa Baz
  • Score: 16

8:26pm Sat 19 Apr 14

DisplacedFan says...

SnapperSaint wrote:
Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness wrote:
Maybe Poch is starting to deal with reality. If he said "wasteful" rather than "unlucky" at least that's a start. If you're "unlucky" every week, Poch, then your team is in the Championship and you're out of a job. So, you better sort out "unlucky" from "out of ideas" before August or that's where Saints will be headed next season if you don't get it sorted. Maybe you could start by selling Wonderboy, "Professional Footballer of the Year," to United or Palace or Cardiff or somebody. How many goals did Wonderboy set up today, happy-clappers?
Saints are not lacking Physical & Mental toughness they just need a striker who can score regularly..they have skill, team spirit, and a great game plan and they are very exciting and interesting to watch.
They certainly don't need anyone who only thinks he can score and when he doesn't (which is what he is very highly paid to do) goes around head butting and p1ssing off his team mates!
Call me a 'Happy Clapper' if you like, because I am happy enough with our performances this season and will certainly clap the team very loudly at the end of the match on May 11th...it's been a great season!
And to add to your post, we are missing two strikers.
[quote][p][bold]SnapperSaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness[/bold] wrote: Maybe Poch is starting to deal with reality. If he said "wasteful" rather than "unlucky" at least that's a start. If you're "unlucky" every week, Poch, then your team is in the Championship and you're out of a job. So, you better sort out "unlucky" from "out of ideas" before August or that's where Saints will be headed next season if you don't get it sorted. Maybe you could start by selling Wonderboy, "Professional Footballer of the Year," to United or Palace or Cardiff or somebody. How many goals did Wonderboy set up today, happy-clappers?[/p][/quote]Saints are not lacking Physical & Mental toughness they just need a striker who can score regularly..they have skill, team spirit, and a great game plan and they are very exciting and interesting to watch. They certainly don't need anyone who only thinks he can score and when he doesn't (which is what he is very highly paid to do) goes around head butting and p1ssing off his team mates! Call me a 'Happy Clapper' if you like, because I am happy enough with our performances this season and will certainly clap the team very loudly at the end of the match on May 11th...it's been a great season![/p][/quote]And to add to your post, we are missing two strikers. DisplacedFan
  • Score: 2

8:30pm Sat 19 Apr 14

ctsaint says...

We did ok today against a team with everything to play for. Victor played well didn't give the ball away once and his neat passing was good. We lacked that cutting edge and looked less Pacey with JRod missing , he certainly adds that dimension.

Defensively we looked very strong, I was at St Marys's for the Villa game shortly after VW was injured and their quick counters hurt us, on one or two occasions today VW was in the right place to stop Weiman and Agbonnahor.

I agree with Costa Baz, we did vary the play and have been doing in the past few weeks, no doubt players will develop significantly based on the fact they are all so young , MOPP also getting to know the opo and the league , should be in good shape for next year if we just hang onto what we have player wise and continue to develop.

Either way, it's been a top top season , one that has set expectation even higher for next season, something I am really looking forward to!

Oh, I would just love us to beat Manure on the final day by three clear goals ! And whilst iam at it I would love it of Lala, SRL! And Luke make it to Brazil......Luke was awesome today and his work deserved at least one assist, he is getting stronger and stronger every game......
We did ok today against a team with everything to play for. Victor played well didn't give the ball away once and his neat passing was good. We lacked that cutting edge and looked less Pacey with JRod missing , he certainly adds that dimension. Defensively we looked very strong, I was at St Marys's for the Villa game shortly after VW was injured and their quick counters hurt us, on one or two occasions today VW was in the right place to stop Weiman and Agbonnahor. I agree with Costa Baz, we did vary the play and have been doing in the past few weeks, no doubt players will develop significantly based on the fact they are all so young , MOPP also getting to know the opo and the league , should be in good shape for next year if we just hang onto what we have player wise and continue to develop. Either way, it's been a top top season , one that has set expectation even higher for next season, something I am really looking forward to! Oh, I would just love us to beat Manure on the final day by three clear goals ! And whilst iam at it I would love it of Lala, SRL! And Luke make it to Brazil......Luke was awesome today and his work deserved at least one assist, he is getting stronger and stronger every game...... ctsaint
  • Score: 14

8:39pm Sat 19 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Looking at the Press and Twitter Villa are absolutely ecstatic that they got a point off of us, they seem to have more respect for us than many of our own fans!
Looking at the Press and Twitter Villa are absolutely ecstatic that they got a point off of us, they seem to have more respect for us than many of our own fans! OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 17

9:04pm Sat 19 Apr 14

mike saint says...

Why do we keep putting Sam Gallagher on in the second half, hes completly out of his depth. He is nowhere near premier league standard. Bring back Guly at least he gets involved in the game. Cant we recall any of our strikers that are out on loan? They are all better than Gallagher.
Why do we keep putting Sam Gallagher on in the second half, hes completly out of his depth. He is nowhere near premier league standard. Bring back Guly at least he gets involved in the game. Cant we recall any of our strikers that are out on loan? They are all better than Gallagher. mike saint
  • Score: -24

9:10pm Sat 19 Apr 14

hedge end bob says...

saintbobby wrote:
Silly game, this football. Whose idea was it that you only get 3 points if you score more goals than the other team. No extra points for having nearly 70% of the game - AGAIN - and no extra points for referees who do not give us deserved penalties. Just a silly game! But, it is not boring to remember we might have finished in League 2 just a few years ago. So we have done really, really well and probably better than any other team in the land. Well played, Saints. However, today I am puzzled just how Crystal Palace have done it again and at West Ham! The report said it is 5 wins on the trot. Not fair!!
They take their chances and score goals. That's the simple answer!!!
[quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: Silly game, this football. Whose idea was it that you only get 3 points if you score more goals than the other team. No extra points for having nearly 70% of the game - AGAIN - and no extra points for referees who do not give us deserved penalties. Just a silly game! But, it is not boring to remember we might have finished in League 2 just a few years ago. So we have done really, really well and probably better than any other team in the land. Well played, Saints. However, today I am puzzled just how Crystal Palace have done it again and at West Ham! The report said it is 5 wins on the trot. Not fair!![/p][/quote]They take their chances and score goals. That's the simple answer!!! hedge end bob
  • Score: 2

9:32pm Sat 19 Apr 14

bluewhiteandred says...

Next time you fly a plane with banner over Fratton park with Banner beware

http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=lgORLEq0A
zA&feature=youtu.be
Next time you fly a plane with banner over Fratton park with Banner beware http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=lgORLEq0A zA&feature=youtu.be bluewhiteandred
  • Score: -2

9:36pm Sat 19 Apr 14

derek james says...

have to agree with some of the above comments, whoever let puncheon go in favour of osvaldo needs something doing to them with a sharp poker
have to agree with some of the above comments, whoever let puncheon go in favour of osvaldo needs something doing to them with a sharp poker derek james
  • Score: -11

9:37pm Sat 19 Apr 14

bluewhiteandred says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Could have been worse today, could have been a Chelsea fan! Sunderland beat them 2 1. Albeit with a dubious penalty!
Or a Lambert loving Bristol rovers fans

Next time you fly a plane with a banner over Fratton Park Beware we have taken precaution's !

http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=lgORLEq0A
zA&feature=youtu.be
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Could have been worse today, could have been a Chelsea fan! Sunderland beat them 2 1. Albeit with a dubious penalty![/p][/quote]Or a Lambert loving Bristol rovers fans Next time you fly a plane with a banner over Fratton Park Beware we have taken precaution's ! http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=lgORLEq0A zA&feature=youtu.be bluewhiteandred
  • Score: -4

9:46pm Sat 19 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

mike saint wrote:
Why do we keep putting Sam Gallagher on in the second half, hes completly out of his depth. He is nowhere near premier league standard. Bring back Guly at least he gets involved in the game. Cant we recall any of our strikers that are out on loan? They are all better than Gallagher.
It's called the learning curve, he is just a kid, and no we cannot use any of the strikers we have out on loan, rules is rules and they say no. I know he wasn't overworked, but was it significant that Artur returns and we get a clean sheet?
[quote][p][bold]mike saint[/bold] wrote: Why do we keep putting Sam Gallagher on in the second half, hes completly out of his depth. He is nowhere near premier league standard. Bring back Guly at least he gets involved in the game. Cant we recall any of our strikers that are out on loan? They are all better than Gallagher.[/p][/quote]It's called the learning curve, he is just a kid, and no we cannot use any of the strikers we have out on loan, rules is rules and they say no. I know he wasn't overworked, but was it significant that Artur returns and we get a clean sheet? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 6

9:46pm Sat 19 Apr 14

Malcombe says...

Rudolf Hucker please tell all those that do not know what rumour you have heard about a German Football Manager being sought out by Southampton FC, I've just read another it could be Luis Enrique of Celta Vega, I hate all this uncertainty and so do all the Supporters we want the positives and the honest truth, I do not think MoPo will humiliate himself or the Club he's a proud man and he will stay.
Rudolf Hucker please tell all those that do not know what rumour you have heard about a German Football Manager being sought out by Southampton FC, I've just read another it could be Luis Enrique of Celta Vega, I hate all this uncertainty and so do all the Supporters we want the positives and the honest truth, I do not think MoPo will humiliate himself or the Club he's a proud man and he will stay. Malcombe
  • Score: 0

9:49pm Sat 19 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Rudolf Hucker wrote:
definite lack of pace with JRod out, but a deserved point against a team scrapping at the bottom of the table. I am not bothered about the next 3 matches as we are safe, but I am worried about the next 3 months. With Mopo still not signed up, and rumours of us approaching a German manager, I just hope it all works out well in the end.
OK I give in, I have searched everywhere for a rumour about a German Manager and drawn a blank, who exactly is he? The nearest I could find was Petrescu, he is not German.
[quote][p][bold]Rudolf Hucker[/bold] wrote: definite lack of pace with JRod out, but a deserved point against a team scrapping at the bottom of the table. I am not bothered about the next 3 matches as we are safe, but I am worried about the next 3 months. With Mopo still not signed up, and rumours of us approaching a German manager, I just hope it all works out well in the end.[/p][/quote]OK I give in, I have searched everywhere for a rumour about a German Manager and drawn a blank, who exactly is he? The nearest I could find was Petrescu, he is not German. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 4

10:01pm Sat 19 Apr 14

el caballo santos101 says...

derek james wrote:
have to agree with some of the above comments, whoever let puncheon go in favour of osvaldo needs something doing to them with a sharp poker
I don't know if you've were around when punch left but in case you weren't or you've forgotten I will let you know what happened.
Punch wanted to go to palace, his hometown club, at the start of the season for family reasons he asked to go and was given his wish. there were rumours at the time of a family member being ill. if the rumours are true then the person who agreed to punch`s request did so properly.
as I said on a different thread though, MP doesn't want/need a winger because if he did then punch wouldn't have gone or isgrove would be getting on the pitch or at least the bench.
[quote][p][bold]derek james[/bold] wrote: have to agree with some of the above comments, whoever let puncheon go in favour of osvaldo needs something doing to them with a sharp poker[/p][/quote]I don't know if you've were around when punch left but in case you weren't or you've forgotten I will let you know what happened. Punch wanted to go to palace, his hometown club, at the start of the season for family reasons he asked to go and was given his wish. there were rumours at the time of a family member being ill. if the rumours are true then the person who agreed to punch`s request did so properly. as I said on a different thread though, MP doesn't want/need a winger because if he did then punch wouldn't have gone or isgrove would be getting on the pitch or at least the bench. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 10

10:29pm Sat 19 Apr 14

Baddesley Bill says...

I wasn't at the game today, so catching up on Football First. Ok...so we failed to put our chances away again today....but the football we play is nothing short of sublime.

We are sooo close to the vision. This close season will tell us whether it really can be achieved.
I wasn't at the game today, so catching up on Football First. Ok...so we failed to put our chances away again today....but the football we play is nothing short of sublime. We are sooo close to the vision. This close season will tell us whether it really can be achieved. Baddesley Bill
  • Score: 14

11:33pm Sat 19 Apr 14

FindAndDestroy says...

I am frustrated with the draw.. but happy with the defense, the line up of
Shaw, Lovren, Fonte , Clyne, wanyama, Morgan and Boruc in goal, was the one that took us to 3rd spot at the beginning of the season, and made us second best defense in Europe..
when these back 7 are well and fit, we are harder to score against

Well done..
I am frustrated with the draw.. but happy with the defense, the line up of Shaw, Lovren, Fonte , Clyne, wanyama, Morgan and Boruc in goal, was the one that took us to 3rd spot at the beginning of the season, and made us second best defense in Europe.. when these back 7 are well and fit, we are harder to score against Well done.. FindAndDestroy
  • Score: 13

12:06am Sun 20 Apr 14

davey0635 says...

The amount of negative comments on here every time saint don't win is stupid, we are top half of the league under Utd with a team who is young and still learning, we are hard a champion league side or even a Europa side. We are just finding are feet, also all the booing of luke shaw way out of order today not needed at all
The amount of negative comments on here every time saint don't win is stupid, we are top half of the league under Utd with a team who is young and still learning, we are hard a champion league side or even a Europa side. We are just finding are feet, also all the booing of luke shaw way out of order today not needed at all davey0635
  • Score: 1

12:25am Sun 20 Apr 14

Shrewdsaint says...

davey0635 wrote:
The amount of negative comments on here every time saint don't win is stupid, we are top half of the league under Utd with a team who is young and still learning, we are hard a champion league side or even a Europa side. We are just finding are feet, also all the booing of luke shaw way out of order today not needed at all
Its not booing, its 'Luuuuuuke' like it used to be 'Steeeeeeeve'.
[quote][p][bold]davey0635[/bold] wrote: The amount of negative comments on here every time saint don't win is stupid, we are top half of the league under Utd with a team who is young and still learning, we are hard a champion league side or even a Europa side. We are just finding are feet, also all the booing of luke shaw way out of order today not needed at all[/p][/quote]Its not booing, its 'Luuuuuuke' like it used to be 'Steeeeeeeve'. Shrewdsaint
  • Score: 10

3:57am Sun 20 Apr 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
I wasn't at the game today, so catching up on Football First. Ok...so we failed to put our chances away again today....but the football we play is nothing short of sublime.

We are sooo close to the vision. This close season will tell us whether it really can be achieved.
Looks like some aren't happy with the way we play though and would rather we filled the team with a bunch of cloggers who just lump the ball up the pitch.

We don't get 70% possession in games because the other teams 'rove's it to us, we take the ball off them quickly and are able to keep it from them.

Some of our passing and movement today was top class and had it been done by a top 4 team the press would be cooing about it, still some people are never satisfied!
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: I wasn't at the game today, so catching up on Football First. Ok...so we failed to put our chances away again today....but the football we play is nothing short of sublime. We are sooo close to the vision. This close season will tell us whether it really can be achieved.[/p][/quote]Looks like some aren't happy with the way we play though and would rather we filled the team with a bunch of cloggers who just lump the ball up the pitch. We don't get 70% possession in games because the other teams 'rove's it to us, we take the ball off them quickly and are able to keep it from them. Some of our passing and movement today was top class and had it been done by a top 4 team the press would be cooing about it, still some people are never satisfied! el caballo santos101
  • Score: 13

6:56am Sun 20 Apr 14

saint phil says...

It was good to see V W back, the only bad point no beer in the ground. And the BUS keeps rolling on!
It was good to see V W back, the only bad point no beer in the ground. And the BUS keeps rolling on! saint phil
  • Score: 5

8:26am Sun 20 Apr 14

Jan28th1984 says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote: I wasn't at the game today, so catching up on Football First. Ok...so we failed to put our chances away again today....but the football we play is nothing short of sublime. We are sooo close to the vision. This close season will tell us whether it really can be achieved.
Looks like some aren't happy with the way we play though and would rather we filled the team with a bunch of cloggers who just lump the ball up the pitch. We don't get 70% possession in games because the other teams 'rove's it to us, we take the ball off them quickly and are able to keep it from them. Some of our passing and movement today was top class and had it been done by a top 4 team the press would be cooing about it, still some people are never satisfied!
Yes indeed - SFC's percentage of possession is superior in every single game and that is no accident, it's a reflection of the superb system Poch has instilled into the squad.
What we are lacking is a shooter who can turn all this possession into goals.
Get in Saints - spend big and bring in a 6-yard box assassin!

Antoine Griezmann or someone like him would do.........
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: I wasn't at the game today, so catching up on Football First. Ok...so we failed to put our chances away again today....but the football we play is nothing short of sublime. We are sooo close to the vision. This close season will tell us whether it really can be achieved.[/p][/quote]Looks like some aren't happy with the way we play though and would rather we filled the team with a bunch of cloggers who just lump the ball up the pitch. We don't get 70% possession in games because the other teams 'rove's it to us, we take the ball off them quickly and are able to keep it from them. Some of our passing and movement today was top class and had it been done by a top 4 team the press would be cooing about it, still some people are never satisfied![/p][/quote]Yes indeed - SFC's percentage of possession is superior in every single game and that is no accident, it's a reflection of the superb system Poch has instilled into the squad. What we are lacking is a shooter who can turn all this possession into goals. Get in Saints - spend big and bring in a 6-yard box assassin! Antoine Griezmann or someone like him would do......... Jan28th1984
  • Score: 3

9:17am Sun 20 Apr 14

Clever Dick says...

An away draw in the Prem is an ok result. In case all the moaners arn't aware we are seriously lacking in strikers at the moment with JRod's injury and Osvaldo's tiny brain. As we all know SRL is not the most mobile striker in the world and needs more support up front. We had 3 or four good chances yesterday to have a lash a goal but chose instead to pull it back and it didn't come off. Once again we were up against a twelfth man incapable of spotting yet aother nailed on penalty which probably cost us two more points. How many is that now that bent/incompetent offiials have cost us.Around 10 ponts I think. I think it would be a great idea for the club to make up a video of all the terrible decisions we are gettng ad show them on the big screen before the Manur game. And send a copy to the fools at the FA as well.
An away draw in the Prem is an ok result. In case all the moaners arn't aware we are seriously lacking in strikers at the moment with JRod's injury and Osvaldo's tiny brain. As we all know SRL is not the most mobile striker in the world and needs more support up front. We had 3 or four good chances yesterday to have a lash a goal but chose instead to pull it back and it didn't come off. Once again we were up against a twelfth man incapable of spotting yet aother nailed on penalty which probably cost us two more points. How many is that now that bent/incompetent offiials have cost us.Around 10 ponts I think. I think it would be a great idea for the club to make up a video of all the terrible decisions we are gettng ad show them on the big screen before the Manur game. And send a copy to the fools at the FA as well. Clever Dick
  • Score: 4

9:18am Sun 20 Apr 14

george chivers says...

Baddesley Bill wrote:
I wasn't at the game today, so catching up on Football First. Ok...so we failed to put our chances away again today....but the football we play is nothing short of sublime.

We are sooo close to the vision. This close season will tell us whether it really can be achieved.
We are playing like Arsenal used to play (are playing) in terms of possession but with more pace. We need a finisher and we need our midfielders to chip in with 6 to 8 goals each per season. Easier said than done. But your are spot on with you close season comment. We also may need to forgive Osvaldo.
[quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: I wasn't at the game today, so catching up on Football First. Ok...so we failed to put our chances away again today....but the football we play is nothing short of sublime. We are sooo close to the vision. This close season will tell us whether it really can be achieved.[/p][/quote]We are playing like Arsenal used to play (are playing) in terms of possession but with more pace. We need a finisher and we need our midfielders to chip in with 6 to 8 goals each per season. Easier said than done. But your are spot on with you close season comment. We also may need to forgive Osvaldo. george chivers
  • Score: 0

9:23am Sun 20 Apr 14

montecristosaint says...

teams have learnt to let Saints pass the ball around in midfield and just sit deep then hit them on the break at speed, Villa, and others have been doing this for the last 12 games to considerable effect. We need a faster center half, and a couple of forwards and a midfielder who can find a pass forward I am tired of watching Davis pass sideways or backwards he is not the answer.By the way who is this Callum Slattery Arsenal are interested in, I can find no one of that name listed in the academy, he is reputedly under 16 but if if he is any good will have played for the under 18s already. No such player has featured for the under 18s this season. Is this a case of mistaken identity?? Now that would make me laugh, trust Wenger...
teams have learnt to let Saints pass the ball around in midfield and just sit deep then hit them on the break at speed, Villa, and others have been doing this for the last 12 games to considerable effect. We need a faster center half, and a couple of forwards and a midfielder who can find a pass forward I am tired of watching Davis pass sideways or backwards he is not the answer.By the way who is this Callum Slattery Arsenal are interested in, I can find no one of that name listed in the academy, he is reputedly under 16 but if if he is any good will have played for the under 18s already. No such player has featured for the under 18s this season. Is this a case of mistaken identity?? Now that would make me laugh, trust Wenger... montecristosaint
  • Score: -2

9:33am Sun 20 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

davey0635 wrote:
The amount of negative comments on here every time saint don't win is stupid, we are top half of the league under Utd with a team who is young and still learning, we are hard a champion league side or even a Europa side. We are just finding are feet, also all the booing of luke shaw way out of order today not needed at all
We have a wide variation in the type of fan that support us, most appreciate the kind of play we are making, and accept that we cannot win every time. Others are intolerant of anything other than a win, however we get it, and we have a mixture in between who just enjoy supporting the team whatever they do. I know, I have a go at the neggies, but they have every right to complain and point out the short comings as they see them, they only say what most of us are aware of, but we chose to keep our negative thoughts to ourselves, trusting that the Manager and his team will put things right.
[quote][p][bold]davey0635[/bold] wrote: The amount of negative comments on here every time saint don't win is stupid, we are top half of the league under Utd with a team who is young and still learning, we are hard a champion league side or even a Europa side. We are just finding are feet, also all the booing of luke shaw way out of order today not needed at all[/p][/quote]We have a wide variation in the type of fan that support us, most appreciate the kind of play we are making, and accept that we cannot win every time. Others are intolerant of anything other than a win, however we get it, and we have a mixture in between who just enjoy supporting the team whatever they do. I know, I have a go at the neggies, but they have every right to complain and point out the short comings as they see them, they only say what most of us are aware of, but we chose to keep our negative thoughts to ourselves, trusting that the Manager and his team will put things right. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 3

9:50am Sun 20 Apr 14

el caballo santos101 says...

george chivers wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
I wasn't at the game today, so catching up on Football First. Ok...so we failed to put our chances away again today....but the football we play is nothing short of sublime.

We are sooo close to the vision. This close season will tell us whether it really can be achieved.
We are playing like Arsenal used to play (are playing) in terms of possession but with more pace. We need a finisher and we need our midfielders to chip in with 6 to 8 goals each per season. Easier said than done. But your are spot on with you close season comment. We also may need to forgive Osvaldo.
Osvaldo will not be coming back, thats done, hes gone.
Before our arsenil loving French friend starts again, no I am not saying he will be sold for £100mill or even £20mill, which is the figure he keeps bringing up, but he will either be sold for a good chunk of money or go out on loan again, he just wont be back here.
Osvaldo hasn't become a bad player overnight, he is an Italian international striker, and most managers don't worry about players with bad attitudes as they all think they are the one to tame them.
The other mad Italian striker, Mario, has been sold a few times for big money, if managers were concerned about attitudes he would still be at mancy or even inter!
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: I wasn't at the game today, so catching up on Football First. Ok...so we failed to put our chances away again today....but the football we play is nothing short of sublime. We are sooo close to the vision. This close season will tell us whether it really can be achieved.[/p][/quote]We are playing like Arsenal used to play (are playing) in terms of possession but with more pace. We need a finisher and we need our midfielders to chip in with 6 to 8 goals each per season. Easier said than done. But your are spot on with you close season comment. We also may need to forgive Osvaldo.[/p][/quote]Osvaldo will not be coming back, thats done, hes gone. Before our arsenil loving French friend starts again, no I am not saying he will be sold for £100mill or even £20mill, which is the figure he keeps bringing up, but he will either be sold for a good chunk of money or go out on loan again, he just wont be back here. Osvaldo hasn't become a bad player overnight, he is an Italian international striker, and most managers don't worry about players with bad attitudes as they all think they are the one to tame them. The other mad Italian striker, Mario, has been sold a few times for big money, if managers were concerned about attitudes he would still be at mancy or even inter! el caballo santos101
  • Score: 1

10:14am Sun 20 Apr 14

el caballo santos101 says...

montecristosaint wrote:
teams have learnt to let Saints pass the ball around in midfield and just sit deep then hit them on the break at speed, Villa, and others have been doing this for the last 12 games to considerable effect. We need a faster center half, and a couple of forwards and a midfielder who can find a pass forward I am tired of watching Davis pass sideways or backwards he is not the answer.By the way who is this Callum Slattery Arsenal are interested in, I can find no one of that name listed in the academy, he is reputedly under 16 but if if he is any good will have played for the under 18s already. No such player has featured for the under 18s this season. Is this a case of mistaken identity?? Now that would make me laugh, trust Wenger...
Are you suggesting then that it took premiere league managers, and the extensive backing they have, the second half of last season and 20+ games this season to come up with the brilliant tactic of 'parking the bus and hoping' and that is their only hope against us?
If so do you not find it flattering that other teams change their tactics to play us? Although wet spam, Sunderland, stoke and others play like that anyway.
[quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: teams have learnt to let Saints pass the ball around in midfield and just sit deep then hit them on the break at speed, Villa, and others have been doing this for the last 12 games to considerable effect. We need a faster center half, and a couple of forwards and a midfielder who can find a pass forward I am tired of watching Davis pass sideways or backwards he is not the answer.By the way who is this Callum Slattery Arsenal are interested in, I can find no one of that name listed in the academy, he is reputedly under 16 but if if he is any good will have played for the under 18s already. No such player has featured for the under 18s this season. Is this a case of mistaken identity?? Now that would make me laugh, trust Wenger...[/p][/quote]Are you suggesting then that it took premiere league managers, and the extensive backing they have, the second half of last season and 20+ games this season to come up with the brilliant tactic of 'parking the bus and hoping' and that is their only hope against us? If so do you not find it flattering that other teams change their tactics to play us? Although wet spam, Sunderland, stoke and others play like that anyway. el caballo santos101
  • Score: 2

10:17am Sun 20 Apr 14

warrens 76 says...

Speed around the box…Shaw is our most potent player because he gets behind the opposition quickly the rest want too much time…

..pretty play around their box is nice but with possession figures that defy all expectations we still cannot convert a minimal amount...

I believe Puncheon offered us this option as well and it's a shame he went to Palace….

Aside from a back up keeper I think we need to bring in two very quick midfield/attackers who blend with what we have and a replacement CB for Hooiveld.

We are kind of there and yet kinda not…anyone who enjoys the possession and chances we have had all season and continually fails to score has some interesting problems.

I think it's a bit like a rubric cube it looks like you have solved it and yet a square is out of alignment it looks simple to put right but actually you have to rethink the entire 8loody thing.
Speed around the box…Shaw is our most potent player because he gets behind the opposition quickly the rest want too much time… ..pretty play around their box is nice but with possession figures that defy all expectations we still cannot convert a minimal amount... I believe Puncheon offered us this option as well and it's a shame he went to Palace…. Aside from a back up keeper I think we need to bring in two very quick midfield/attackers who blend with what we have and a replacement CB for Hooiveld. We are kind of there and yet kinda not…anyone who enjoys the possession and chances we have had all season and continually fails to score has some interesting problems. I think it's a bit like a rubric cube it looks like you have solved it and yet a square is out of alignment it looks simple to put right but actually you have to rethink the entire 8loody thing. warrens 76
  • Score: 7

10:31am Sun 20 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Speed around the box…Shaw is our most potent player because he gets behind the opposition quickly the rest want too much time…

..pretty play around their box is nice but with possession figures that defy all expectations we still cannot convert a minimal amount...

I believe Puncheon offered us this option as well and it's a shame he went to Palace….

Aside from a back up keeper I think we need to bring in two very quick midfield/attackers who blend with what we have and a replacement CB for Hooiveld.

We are kind of there and yet kinda not…anyone who enjoys the possession and chances we have had all season and continually fails to score has some interesting problems.

I think it's a bit like a rubric cube it looks like you have solved it and yet a square is out of alignment it looks simple to put right but actually you have to rethink the entire 8loody thing.
Play Harry the Wotsit, he is a bit of a terrier and can hit a decent shot given the opportunity.
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Speed around the box…Shaw is our most potent player because he gets behind the opposition quickly the rest want too much time… ..pretty play around their box is nice but with possession figures that defy all expectations we still cannot convert a minimal amount... I believe Puncheon offered us this option as well and it's a shame he went to Palace…. Aside from a back up keeper I think we need to bring in two very quick midfield/attackers who blend with what we have and a replacement CB for Hooiveld. We are kind of there and yet kinda not…anyone who enjoys the possession and chances we have had all season and continually fails to score has some interesting problems. I think it's a bit like a rubric cube it looks like you have solved it and yet a square is out of alignment it looks simple to put right but actually you have to rethink the entire 8loody thing.[/p][/quote]Play Harry the Wotsit, he is a bit of a terrier and can hit a decent shot given the opportunity. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

10:41am Sun 20 Apr 14

Shrewdsaint says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Speed around the box…Shaw is our most potent player because he gets behind the opposition quickly the rest want too much time…

..pretty play around their box is nice but with possession figures that defy all expectations we still cannot convert a minimal amount...

I believe Puncheon offered us this option as well and it's a shame he went to Palace….

Aside from a back up keeper I think we need to bring in two very quick midfield/attackers who blend with what we have and a replacement CB for Hooiveld.

We are kind of there and yet kinda not…anyone who enjoys the possession and chances we have had all season and continually fails to score has some interesting problems.

I think it's a bit like a rubric cube it looks like you have solved it and yet a square is out of alignment it looks simple to put right but actually you have to rethink the entire 8loody thing.
Play Harry the Wotsit, he is a bit of a terrier and can hit a decent shot given the opportunity.
The new Paul Scholes, he got less than a minute yesterday but still good to see Poch giving him the experience. His problem is there are good players ahead of him where Luke only had Danny Fox to overcome.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Speed around the box…Shaw is our most potent player because he gets behind the opposition quickly the rest want too much time… ..pretty play around their box is nice but with possession figures that defy all expectations we still cannot convert a minimal amount... I believe Puncheon offered us this option as well and it's a shame he went to Palace…. Aside from a back up keeper I think we need to bring in two very quick midfield/attackers who blend with what we have and a replacement CB for Hooiveld. We are kind of there and yet kinda not…anyone who enjoys the possession and chances we have had all season and continually fails to score has some interesting problems. I think it's a bit like a rubric cube it looks like you have solved it and yet a square is out of alignment it looks simple to put right but actually you have to rethink the entire 8loody thing.[/p][/quote]Play Harry the Wotsit, he is a bit of a terrier and can hit a decent shot given the opportunity.[/p][/quote]The new Paul Scholes, he got less than a minute yesterday but still good to see Poch giving him the experience. His problem is there are good players ahead of him where Luke only had Danny Fox to overcome. Shrewdsaint
  • Score: 1

10:47am Sun 20 Apr 14

warrens 76 says...

Clever Dick wrote:
An away draw in the Prem is an ok result. In case all the moaners arn't aware we are seriously lacking in strikers at the moment with JRod's injury and Osvaldo's tiny brain. As we all know SRL is not the most mobile striker in the world and needs more support up front. We had 3 or four good chances yesterday to have a lash a goal but chose instead to pull it back and it didn't come off. Once again we were up against a twelfth man incapable of spotting yet aother nailed on penalty which probably cost us two more points. How many is that now that bent/incompetent offiials have cost us.Around 10 ponts I think. I think it would be a great idea for the club to make up a video of all the terrible decisions we are gettng ad show them on the big screen before the Manur game. And send a copy to the fools at the FA as well.
It beggars belief…how many nailed on penalties is it now.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: An away draw in the Prem is an ok result. In case all the moaners arn't aware we are seriously lacking in strikers at the moment with JRod's injury and Osvaldo's tiny brain. As we all know SRL is not the most mobile striker in the world and needs more support up front. We had 3 or four good chances yesterday to have a lash a goal but chose instead to pull it back and it didn't come off. Once again we were up against a twelfth man incapable of spotting yet aother nailed on penalty which probably cost us two more points. How many is that now that bent/incompetent offiials have cost us.Around 10 ponts I think. I think it would be a great idea for the club to make up a video of all the terrible decisions we are gettng ad show them on the big screen before the Manur game. And send a copy to the fools at the FA as well.[/p][/quote]It beggars belief…how many nailed on penalties is it now. warrens 76
  • Score: -1

11:51am Sun 20 Apr 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

george chivers wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
I wasn't at the game today, so catching up on Football First. Ok...so we failed to put our chances away again today....but the football we play is nothing short of sublime.

We are sooo close to the vision. This close season will tell us whether it really can be achieved.
We are playing like Arsenal used to play (are playing) in terms of possession but with more pace. We need a finisher and we need our midfielders to chip in with 6 to 8 goals each per season. Easier said than done. But your are spot on with you close season comment. We also may need to forgive Osvaldo.
Even if we forgave Osvaldo I haven't seen anything to make me think he is the answer to our problems. No pace and ponderous on the ball, that's exactly what we don't want imho.
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: I wasn't at the game today, so catching up on Football First. Ok...so we failed to put our chances away again today....but the football we play is nothing short of sublime. We are sooo close to the vision. This close season will tell us whether it really can be achieved.[/p][/quote]We are playing like Arsenal used to play (are playing) in terms of possession but with more pace. We need a finisher and we need our midfielders to chip in with 6 to 8 goals each per season. Easier said than done. But your are spot on with you close season comment. We also may need to forgive Osvaldo.[/p][/quote]Even if we forgave Osvaldo I haven't seen anything to make me think he is the answer to our problems. No pace and ponderous on the ball, that's exactly what we don't want imho. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 5

12:01pm Sun 20 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
I wasn't at the game today, so catching up on Football First. Ok...so we failed to put our chances away again today....but the football we play is nothing short of sublime.

We are sooo close to the vision. This close season will tell us whether it really can be achieved.
We are playing like Arsenal used to play (are playing) in terms of possession but with more pace. We need a finisher and we need our midfielders to chip in with 6 to 8 goals each per season. Easier said than done. But your are spot on with you close season comment. We also may need to forgive Osvaldo.
Even if we forgave Osvaldo I haven't seen anything to make me think he is the answer to our problems. No pace and ponderous on the ball, that's exactly what we don't want imho.
What do we have to forgive him for exactly?
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: I wasn't at the game today, so catching up on Football First. Ok...so we failed to put our chances away again today....but the football we play is nothing short of sublime. We are sooo close to the vision. This close season will tell us whether it really can be achieved.[/p][/quote]We are playing like Arsenal used to play (are playing) in terms of possession but with more pace. We need a finisher and we need our midfielders to chip in with 6 to 8 goals each per season. Easier said than done. But your are spot on with you close season comment. We also may need to forgive Osvaldo.[/p][/quote]Even if we forgave Osvaldo I haven't seen anything to make me think he is the answer to our problems. No pace and ponderous on the ball, that's exactly what we don't want imho.[/p][/quote]What do we have to forgive him for exactly? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

12:08pm Sun 20 Apr 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
I wasn't at the game today, so catching up on Football First. Ok...so we failed to put our chances away again today....but the football we play is nothing short of sublime.

We are sooo close to the vision. This close season will tell us whether it really can be achieved.
We are playing like Arsenal used to play (are playing) in terms of possession but with more pace. We need a finisher and we need our midfielders to chip in with 6 to 8 goals each per season. Easier said than done. But your are spot on with you close season comment. We also may need to forgive Osvaldo.
Even if we forgave Osvaldo I haven't seen anything to make me think he is the answer to our problems. No pace and ponderous on the ball, that's exactly what we don't want imho.
What do we have to forgive him for exactly?
Er after being our most expensive signing ever - not putting in a shift, not gelling with his teammates at a club where the commeraderie is second to none, physical assault on a team mate, sulkiness when being paid £75k a week. Do you want any more reasons?
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: I wasn't at the game today, so catching up on Football First. Ok...so we failed to put our chances away again today....but the football we play is nothing short of sublime. We are sooo close to the vision. This close season will tell us whether it really can be achieved.[/p][/quote]We are playing like Arsenal used to play (are playing) in terms of possession but with more pace. We need a finisher and we need our midfielders to chip in with 6 to 8 goals each per season. Easier said than done. But your are spot on with you close season comment. We also may need to forgive Osvaldo.[/p][/quote]Even if we forgave Osvaldo I haven't seen anything to make me think he is the answer to our problems. No pace and ponderous on the ball, that's exactly what we don't want imho.[/p][/quote]What do we have to forgive him for exactly?[/p][/quote]Er after being our most expensive signing ever - not putting in a shift, not gelling with his teammates at a club where the commeraderie is second to none, physical assault on a team mate, sulkiness when being paid £75k a week. Do you want any more reasons? Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 0

12:17pm Sun 20 Apr 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
I wasn't at the game today, so catching up on Football First. Ok...so we failed to put our chances away again today....but the football we play is nothing short of sublime.

We are sooo close to the vision. This close season will tell us whether it really can be achieved.
We are playing like Arsenal used to play (are playing) in terms of possession but with more pace. We need a finisher and we need our midfielders to chip in with 6 to 8 goals each per season. Easier said than done. But your are spot on with you close season comment. We also may need to forgive Osvaldo.
Even if we forgave Osvaldo I haven't seen anything to make me think he is the answer to our problems. No pace and ponderous on the ball, that's exactly what we don't want imho.
What do we have to forgive him for exactly?
Er after being our most expensive signing ever - not putting in a shift, not gelling with his teammates at a club where the commeraderie is second to none, physical assault on a team mate, sulkiness when being paid £75k a week. Do you want any more reasons?
Oh and getting involved in a touch line dust up at Newcastle resulting in a three match ban for violent conduct.

An absolute totalwankerreally who damages team moral as well as heads!
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: I wasn't at the game today, so catching up on Football First. Ok...so we failed to put our chances away again today....but the football we play is nothing short of sublime. We are sooo close to the vision. This close season will tell us whether it really can be achieved.[/p][/quote]We are playing like Arsenal used to play (are playing) in terms of possession but with more pace. We need a finisher and we need our midfielders to chip in with 6 to 8 goals each per season. Easier said than done. But your are spot on with you close season comment. We also may need to forgive Osvaldo.[/p][/quote]Even if we forgave Osvaldo I haven't seen anything to make me think he is the answer to our problems. No pace and ponderous on the ball, that's exactly what we don't want imho.[/p][/quote]What do we have to forgive him for exactly?[/p][/quote]Er after being our most expensive signing ever - not putting in a shift, not gelling with his teammates at a club where the commeraderie is second to none, physical assault on a team mate, sulkiness when being paid £75k a week. Do you want any more reasons?[/p][/quote]Oh and getting involved in a touch line dust up at Newcastle resulting in a three match ban for violent conduct. An absolute totalwankerreally who damages team moral as well as heads! Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 1

12:29pm Sun 20 Apr 14

Velleity says...

Yeah, but apart from that?
Yeah, but apart from that? Velleity
  • Score: 2

1:04pm Sun 20 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
I wasn't at the game today, so catching up on Football First. Ok...so we failed to put our chances away again today....but the football we play is nothing short of sublime.

We are sooo close to the vision. This close season will tell us whether it really can be achieved.
We are playing like Arsenal used to play (are playing) in terms of possession but with more pace. We need a finisher and we need our midfielders to chip in with 6 to 8 goals each per season. Easier said than done. But your are spot on with you close season comment. We also may need to forgive Osvaldo.
Even if we forgave Osvaldo I haven't seen anything to make me think he is the answer to our problems. No pace and ponderous on the ball, that's exactly what we don't want imho.
What do we have to forgive him for exactly?
Er after being our most expensive signing ever - not putting in a shift, not gelling with his teammates at a club where the commeraderie is second to none, physical assault on a team mate, sulkiness when being paid £75k a week. Do you want any more reasons?
Yes. more please? How about being a waste of money? Juv only want to offer £7m as he is not as good as they thought.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: I wasn't at the game today, so catching up on Football First. Ok...so we failed to put our chances away again today....but the football we play is nothing short of sublime. We are sooo close to the vision. This close season will tell us whether it really can be achieved.[/p][/quote]We are playing like Arsenal used to play (are playing) in terms of possession but with more pace. We need a finisher and we need our midfielders to chip in with 6 to 8 goals each per season. Easier said than done. But your are spot on with you close season comment. We also may need to forgive Osvaldo.[/p][/quote]Even if we forgave Osvaldo I haven't seen anything to make me think he is the answer to our problems. No pace and ponderous on the ball, that's exactly what we don't want imho.[/p][/quote]What do we have to forgive him for exactly?[/p][/quote]Er after being our most expensive signing ever - not putting in a shift, not gelling with his teammates at a club where the commeraderie is second to none, physical assault on a team mate, sulkiness when being paid £75k a week. Do you want any more reasons?[/p][/quote]Yes. more please? How about being a waste of money? Juv only want to offer £7m as he is not as good as they thought. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

1:04pm Sun 20 Apr 14

Norwegian Saint says...

Looks like we could be the only team to beat the champions at their place this season!
I do hate Suarez but he sure knows how to score.
Looks like we could be the only team to beat the champions at their place this season! I do hate Suarez but he sure knows how to score. Norwegian Saint
  • Score: 2

1:10pm Sun 20 Apr 14

J7junctionseven says...

bluewhiteandred wrote:
Next time you fly a plane with banner over Fratton park with Banner beware

http://www.youtube.c

om/watch?v=lgORLEq0A

zA&feature=youtu
.be
Should have put the banner on a bus as well and you could have jumped out in front of it with any luck.
COYR FOADP
[quote][p][bold]bluewhiteandred[/bold] wrote: Next time you fly a plane with banner over Fratton park with Banner beware http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=lgORLEq0A zA&feature=youtu .be[/p][/quote]Should have put the banner on a bus as well and you could have jumped out in front of it with any luck. COYR FOADP J7junctionseven
  • Score: 1

1:31pm Sun 20 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

bluewhiteandred wrote:
Next time you fly a plane with banner over Fratton park with Banner beware

http://www.youtube.c

om/watch?v=lgORLEq0A

zA&feature=youtu
.be
The fact that you have made a rare appearance on here would suggest the banner had the desired affect.
[quote][p][bold]bluewhiteandred[/bold] wrote: Next time you fly a plane with banner over Fratton park with Banner beware http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=lgORLEq0A zA&feature=youtu .be[/p][/quote]The fact that you have made a rare appearance on here would suggest the banner had the desired affect. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

2:00pm Sun 20 Apr 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
I wasn't at the game today, so catching up on Football First. Ok...so we failed to put our chances away again today....but the football we play is nothing short of sublime.

We are sooo close to the vision. This close season will tell us whether it really can be achieved.
We are playing like Arsenal used to play (are playing) in terms of possession but with more pace. We need a finisher and we need our midfielders to chip in with 6 to 8 goals each per season. Easier said than done. But your are spot on with you close season comment. We also may need to forgive Osvaldo.
Even if we forgave Osvaldo I haven't seen anything to make me think he is the answer to our problems. No pace and ponderous on the ball, that's exactly what we don't want imho.
What do we have to forgive him for exactly?
Er after being our most expensive signing ever - not putting in a shift, not gelling with his teammates at a club where the commeraderie is second to none, physical assault on a team mate, sulkiness when being paid £75k a week. Do you want any more reasons?
Yes. more please? How about being a waste of money? Juv only want to offer £7m as he is not as good as they thought.
I never understood the deal where we supposedly agreed a transfer fee that technically made us a small profit. Why would they agree to that?

I'm convinced he always wanted to stay in Italy and because Roma refused to sell him to another club he used us as a route out and back.

Do we insure our players? If we do chuck him under the bus with FewShiteandDead and put a claim in!
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: I wasn't at the game today, so catching up on Football First. Ok...so we failed to put our chances away again today....but the football we play is nothing short of sublime. We are sooo close to the vision. This close season will tell us whether it really can be achieved.[/p][/quote]We are playing like Arsenal used to play (are playing) in terms of possession but with more pace. We need a finisher and we need our midfielders to chip in with 6 to 8 goals each per season. Easier said than done. But your are spot on with you close season comment. We also may need to forgive Osvaldo.[/p][/quote]Even if we forgave Osvaldo I haven't seen anything to make me think he is the answer to our problems. No pace and ponderous on the ball, that's exactly what we don't want imho.[/p][/quote]What do we have to forgive him for exactly?[/p][/quote]Er after being our most expensive signing ever - not putting in a shift, not gelling with his teammates at a club where the commeraderie is second to none, physical assault on a team mate, sulkiness when being paid £75k a week. Do you want any more reasons?[/p][/quote]Yes. more please? How about being a waste of money? Juv only want to offer £7m as he is not as good as they thought.[/p][/quote]I never understood the deal where we supposedly agreed a transfer fee that technically made us a small profit. Why would they agree to that? I'm convinced he always wanted to stay in Italy and because Roma refused to sell him to another club he used us as a route out and back. Do we insure our players? If we do chuck him under the bus with FewShiteandDead and put a claim in! Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 0

2:10pm Sun 20 Apr 14

george chivers says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
I wasn't at the game today, so catching up on Football First. Ok...so we failed to put our chances away again today....but the football we play is nothing short of sublime.

We are sooo close to the vision. This close season will tell us whether it really can be achieved.
We are playing like Arsenal used to play (are playing) in terms of possession but with more pace. We need a finisher and we need our midfielders to chip in with 6 to 8 goals each per season. Easier said than done. But your are spot on with you close season comment. We also may need to forgive Osvaldo.
Even if we forgave Osvaldo I haven't seen anything to make me think he is the answer to our problems. No pace and ponderous on the ball, that's exactly what we don't want imho.
What do we have to forgive him for exactly?
Er after being our most expensive signing ever - not putting in a shift, not gelling with his teammates at a club where the commeraderie is second to none, physical assault on a team mate, sulkiness when being paid £75k a week. Do you want any more reasons?
Yes. more please? How about being a waste of money? Juv only want to offer £7m as he is not as good as they thought.
I never understood the deal where we supposedly agreed a transfer fee that technically made us a small profit. Why would they agree to that?

I'm convinced he always wanted to stay in Italy and because Roma refused to sell him to another club he used us as a route out and back.

Do we insure our players? If we do chuck him under the bus with FewShiteandDead and put a claim in!
We may have to forgive him because we won't be able to get our money back. I think that could become an issue. Having said that I don't want him back but I do think we could get stuck with him especially if MOPO stays. He was obviously brought here by MOPO.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: I wasn't at the game today, so catching up on Football First. Ok...so we failed to put our chances away again today....but the football we play is nothing short of sublime. We are sooo close to the vision. This close season will tell us whether it really can be achieved.[/p][/quote]We are playing like Arsenal used to play (are playing) in terms of possession but with more pace. We need a finisher and we need our midfielders to chip in with 6 to 8 goals each per season. Easier said than done. But your are spot on with you close season comment. We also may need to forgive Osvaldo.[/p][/quote]Even if we forgave Osvaldo I haven't seen anything to make me think he is the answer to our problems. No pace and ponderous on the ball, that's exactly what we don't want imho.[/p][/quote]What do we have to forgive him for exactly?[/p][/quote]Er after being our most expensive signing ever - not putting in a shift, not gelling with his teammates at a club where the commeraderie is second to none, physical assault on a team mate, sulkiness when being paid £75k a week. Do you want any more reasons?[/p][/quote]Yes. more please? How about being a waste of money? Juv only want to offer £7m as he is not as good as they thought.[/p][/quote]I never understood the deal where we supposedly agreed a transfer fee that technically made us a small profit. Why would they agree to that? I'm convinced he always wanted to stay in Italy and because Roma refused to sell him to another club he used us as a route out and back. Do we insure our players? If we do chuck him under the bus with FewShiteandDead and put a claim in![/p][/quote]We may have to forgive him because we won't be able to get our money back. I think that could become an issue. Having said that I don't want him back but I do think we could get stuck with him especially if MOPO stays. He was obviously brought here by MOPO. george chivers
  • Score: 0

2:29pm Sun 20 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

george chivers wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
I wasn't at the game today, so catching up on Football First. Ok...so we failed to put our chances away again today....but the football we play is nothing short of sublime.

We are sooo close to the vision. This close season will tell us whether it really can be achieved.
We are playing like Arsenal used to play (are playing) in terms of possession but with more pace. We need a finisher and we need our midfielders to chip in with 6 to 8 goals each per season. Easier said than done. But your are spot on with you close season comment. We also may need to forgive Osvaldo.
Even if we forgave Osvaldo I haven't seen anything to make me think he is the answer to our problems. No pace and ponderous on the ball, that's exactly what we don't want imho.
What do we have to forgive him for exactly?
Er after being our most expensive signing ever - not putting in a shift, not gelling with his teammates at a club where the commeraderie is second to none, physical assault on a team mate, sulkiness when being paid £75k a week. Do you want any more reasons?
Yes. more please? How about being a waste of money? Juv only want to offer £7m as he is not as good as they thought.
I never understood the deal where we supposedly agreed a transfer fee that technically made us a small profit. Why would they agree to that?

I'm convinced he always wanted to stay in Italy and because Roma refused to sell him to another club he used us as a route out and back.

Do we insure our players? If we do chuck him under the bus with FewShiteandDead and put a claim in!
We may have to forgive him because we won't be able to get our money back. I think that could become an issue. Having said that I don't want him back but I do think we could get stuck with him especially if MOPO stays. He was obviously brought here by MOPO.
Obvious to you perhaps, but there is no actual proof, although it was logical to say that, he may have suggested it, but I don't think he had any say in it ultimately. We will probably never know for sure unless Poch produces his memoirs in a readable format.
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: I wasn't at the game today, so catching up on Football First. Ok...so we failed to put our chances away again today....but the football we play is nothing short of sublime. We are sooo close to the vision. This close season will tell us whether it really can be achieved.[/p][/quote]We are playing like Arsenal used to play (are playing) in terms of possession but with more pace. We need a finisher and we need our midfielders to chip in with 6 to 8 goals each per season. Easier said than done. But your are spot on with you close season comment. We also may need to forgive Osvaldo.[/p][/quote]Even if we forgave Osvaldo I haven't seen anything to make me think he is the answer to our problems. No pace and ponderous on the ball, that's exactly what we don't want imho.[/p][/quote]What do we have to forgive him for exactly?[/p][/quote]Er after being our most expensive signing ever - not putting in a shift, not gelling with his teammates at a club where the commeraderie is second to none, physical assault on a team mate, sulkiness when being paid £75k a week. Do you want any more reasons?[/p][/quote]Yes. more please? How about being a waste of money? Juv only want to offer £7m as he is not as good as they thought.[/p][/quote]I never understood the deal where we supposedly agreed a transfer fee that technically made us a small profit. Why would they agree to that? I'm convinced he always wanted to stay in Italy and because Roma refused to sell him to another club he used us as a route out and back. Do we insure our players? If we do chuck him under the bus with FewShiteandDead and put a claim in![/p][/quote]We may have to forgive him because we won't be able to get our money back. I think that could become an issue. Having said that I don't want him back but I do think we could get stuck with him especially if MOPO stays. He was obviously brought here by MOPO.[/p][/quote]Obvious to you perhaps, but there is no actual proof, although it was logical to say that, he may have suggested it, but I don't think he had any say in it ultimately. We will probably never know for sure unless Poch produces his memoirs in a readable format. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

2:40pm Sun 20 Apr 14

Clever Dick says...

george chivers wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
I wasn't at the game today, so catching up on Football First. Ok...so we failed to put our chances away again today....but the football we play is nothing short of sublime.

We are sooo close to the vision. This close season will tell us whether it really can be achieved.
We are playing like Arsenal used to play (are playing) in terms of possession but with more pace. We need a finisher and we need our midfielders to chip in with 6 to 8 goals each per season. Easier said than done. But your are spot on with you close season comment. We also may need to forgive Osvaldo.
Even if we forgave Osvaldo I haven't seen anything to make me think he is the answer to our problems. No pace and ponderous on the ball, that's exactly what we don't want imho.
What do we have to forgive him for exactly?
Er after being our most expensive signing ever - not putting in a shift, not gelling with his teammates at a club where the commeraderie is second to none, physical assault on a team mate, sulkiness when being paid £75k a week. Do you want any more reasons?
Yes. more please? How about being a waste of money? Juv only want to offer £7m as he is not as good as they thought.
I never understood the deal where we supposedly agreed a transfer fee that technically made us a small profit. Why would they agree to that?

I'm convinced he always wanted to stay in Italy and because Roma refused to sell him to another club he used us as a route out and back.

Do we insure our players? If we do chuck him under the bus with FewShiteandDead and put a claim in!
We may have to forgive him because we won't be able to get our money back. I think that could become an issue. Having said that I don't want him back but I do think we could get stuck with him especially if MOPO stays. He was obviously brought here by MOPO.
I don't understand the issue. Any club which signs a player and then sells him on either makes a profit or a loss. All that really matters is how much the squad cost as a whole. With Luke, Adam, Spider, Nat, Jack, Callum, JWP, Jose,Steve all having cost next to nothing I'd say we are on the plus side more than any other Premiership side. If we have to get shot for £7-8million then he still has to go. Never want to see the tw@t back at St Marys.
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: I wasn't at the game today, so catching up on Football First. Ok...so we failed to put our chances away again today....but the football we play is nothing short of sublime. We are sooo close to the vision. This close season will tell us whether it really can be achieved.[/p][/quote]We are playing like Arsenal used to play (are playing) in terms of possession but with more pace. We need a finisher and we need our midfielders to chip in with 6 to 8 goals each per season. Easier said than done. But your are spot on with you close season comment. We also may need to forgive Osvaldo.[/p][/quote]Even if we forgave Osvaldo I haven't seen anything to make me think he is the answer to our problems. No pace and ponderous on the ball, that's exactly what we don't want imho.[/p][/quote]What do we have to forgive him for exactly?[/p][/quote]Er after being our most expensive signing ever - not putting in a shift, not gelling with his teammates at a club where the commeraderie is second to none, physical assault on a team mate, sulkiness when being paid £75k a week. Do you want any more reasons?[/p][/quote]Yes. more please? How about being a waste of money? Juv only want to offer £7m as he is not as good as they thought.[/p][/quote]I never understood the deal where we supposedly agreed a transfer fee that technically made us a small profit. Why would they agree to that? I'm convinced he always wanted to stay in Italy and because Roma refused to sell him to another club he used us as a route out and back. Do we insure our players? If we do chuck him under the bus with FewShiteandDead and put a claim in![/p][/quote]We may have to forgive him because we won't be able to get our money back. I think that could become an issue. Having said that I don't want him back but I do think we could get stuck with him especially if MOPO stays. He was obviously brought here by MOPO.[/p][/quote]I don't understand the issue. Any club which signs a player and then sells him on either makes a profit or a loss. All that really matters is how much the squad cost as a whole. With Luke, Adam, Spider, Nat, Jack, Callum, JWP, Jose,Steve all having cost next to nothing I'd say we are on the plus side more than any other Premiership side. If we have to get shot for £7-8million then he still has to go. Never want to see the tw@t back at St Marys. Clever Dick
  • Score: 1

3:21pm Sun 20 Apr 14

redsnapper says...

Clever Dick wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
I wasn't at the game today, so catching up on Football First. Ok...so we failed to put our chances away again today....but the football we play is nothing short of sublime.

We are sooo close to the vision. This close season will tell us whether it really can be achieved.
We are playing like Arsenal used to play (are playing) in terms of possession but with more pace. We need a finisher and we need our midfielders to chip in with 6 to 8 goals each per season. Easier said than done. But your are spot on with you close season comment. We also may need to forgive Osvaldo.
Even if we forgave Osvaldo I haven't seen anything to make me think he is the answer to our problems. No pace and ponderous on the ball, that's exactly what we don't want imho.
What do we have to forgive him for exactly?
Er after being our most expensive signing ever - not putting in a shift, not gelling with his teammates at a club where the commeraderie is second to none, physical assault on a team mate, sulkiness when being paid £75k a week. Do you want any more reasons?
Yes. more please? How about being a waste of money? Juv only want to offer £7m as he is not as good as they thought.
I never understood the deal where we supposedly agreed a transfer fee that technically made us a small profit. Why would they agree to that?

I'm convinced he always wanted to stay in Italy and because Roma refused to sell him to another club he used us as a route out and back.

Do we insure our players? If we do chuck him under the bus with FewShiteandDead and put a claim in!
We may have to forgive him because we won't be able to get our money back. I think that could become an issue. Having said that I don't want him back but I do think we could get stuck with him especially if MOPO stays. He was obviously brought here by MOPO.
I don't understand the issue. Any club which signs a player and then sells him on either makes a profit or a loss. All that really matters is how much the squad cost as a whole. With Luke, Adam, Spider, Nat, Jack, Callum, JWP, Jose,Steve all having cost next to nothing I'd say we are on the plus side more than any other Premiership side. If we have to get shot for £7-8million then he still has to go. Never want to see the tw@t back at St Marys.
Fact is we need another forward right now. SRL on his own is a tough ask and Sam is a greenhorn.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: I wasn't at the game today, so catching up on Football First. Ok...so we failed to put our chances away again today....but the football we play is nothing short of sublime. We are sooo close to the vision. This close season will tell us whether it really can be achieved.[/p][/quote]We are playing like Arsenal used to play (are playing) in terms of possession but with more pace. We need a finisher and we need our midfielders to chip in with 6 to 8 goals each per season. Easier said than done. But your are spot on with you close season comment. We also may need to forgive Osvaldo.[/p][/quote]Even if we forgave Osvaldo I haven't seen anything to make me think he is the answer to our problems. No pace and ponderous on the ball, that's exactly what we don't want imho.[/p][/quote]What do we have to forgive him for exactly?[/p][/quote]Er after being our most expensive signing ever - not putting in a shift, not gelling with his teammates at a club where the commeraderie is second to none, physical assault on a team mate, sulkiness when being paid £75k a week. Do you want any more reasons?[/p][/quote]Yes. more please? How about being a waste of money? Juv only want to offer £7m as he is not as good as they thought.[/p][/quote]I never understood the deal where we supposedly agreed a transfer fee that technically made us a small profit. Why would they agree to that? I'm convinced he always wanted to stay in Italy and because Roma refused to sell him to another club he used us as a route out and back. Do we insure our players? If we do chuck him under the bus with FewShiteandDead and put a claim in![/p][/quote]We may have to forgive him because we won't be able to get our money back. I think that could become an issue. Having said that I don't want him back but I do think we could get stuck with him especially if MOPO stays. He was obviously brought here by MOPO.[/p][/quote]I don't understand the issue. Any club which signs a player and then sells him on either makes a profit or a loss. All that really matters is how much the squad cost as a whole. With Luke, Adam, Spider, Nat, Jack, Callum, JWP, Jose,Steve all having cost next to nothing I'd say we are on the plus side more than any other Premiership side. If we have to get shot for £7-8million then he still has to go. Never want to see the tw@t back at St Marys.[/p][/quote]Fact is we need another forward right now. SRL on his own is a tough ask and Sam is a greenhorn. redsnapper
  • Score: 0

3:38pm Sun 20 Apr 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Clever Dick wrote:
An away draw in the Prem is an ok result. In case all the moaners arn't aware we are seriously lacking in strikers at the moment with JRod's injury and Osvaldo's tiny brain. As we all know SRL is not the most mobile striker in the world and needs more support up front. We had 3 or four good chances yesterday to have a lash a goal but chose instead to pull it back and it didn't come off. Once again we were up against a twelfth man incapable of spotting yet aother nailed on penalty which probably cost us two more points. How many is that now that bent/incompetent offiials have cost us.Around 10 ponts I think. I think it would be a great idea for the club to make up a video of all the terrible decisions we are gettng ad show them on the big screen before the Manur game. And send a copy to the fools at the FA as well.
I agree, CD, but I think the club should wait until after the Manure game - it's not as though our lives depend on it. That way, the club wouldn't be accused of trying to influence the result. It should be dressed up as trying to 'help the wonderful officials to improve their game' rather than a direct assault on their utter uselessness.

How many points lost? Not sure, but the games that spring immediately to mind where bad decisions have changed the context of the game and might well have cost us include: Yesterday, Sunderland (both games), Norwich away, Arsenal away (although I doubt we'd have equalised), Everton away, Liverpool at home, Stoke away, Spam both games, Man City away ..... (trying to remember last week's Cardiff match; was there another one there? ...... In contrast, how many BAD decisions have gone our way? Maybe at Anfield, Liverpool should have had a penalty, but it wasn't easy to spot from any angle. We also had the right decision given for us against Chelsea when many refs would have given a penalty and sent Artur off for that dive by Oscar.

It's hard to believe these things even themselves out and it does make me wonder if there's not some secret FA plan to ensure bigger clubs reach Europe ahead of us.
[quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: An away draw in the Prem is an ok result. In case all the moaners arn't aware we are seriously lacking in strikers at the moment with JRod's injury and Osvaldo's tiny brain. As we all know SRL is not the most mobile striker in the world and needs more support up front. We had 3 or four good chances yesterday to have a lash a goal but chose instead to pull it back and it didn't come off. Once again we were up against a twelfth man incapable of spotting yet aother nailed on penalty which probably cost us two more points. How many is that now that bent/incompetent offiials have cost us.Around 10 ponts I think. I think it would be a great idea for the club to make up a video of all the terrible decisions we are gettng ad show them on the big screen before the Manur game. And send a copy to the fools at the FA as well.[/p][/quote]I agree, CD, but I think the club should wait until after the Manure game - it's not as though our lives depend on it. That way, the club wouldn't be accused of trying to influence the result. It should be dressed up as trying to 'help the wonderful officials to improve their game' rather than a direct assault on their utter uselessness. How many points lost? Not sure, but the games that spring immediately to mind where bad decisions have changed the context of the game and might well have cost us include: Yesterday, Sunderland (both games), Norwich away, Arsenal away (although I doubt we'd have equalised), Everton away, Liverpool at home, Stoke away, Spam both games, Man City away ..... (trying to remember last week's Cardiff match; was there another one there? ...... In contrast, how many BAD decisions have gone our way? Maybe at Anfield, Liverpool should have had a penalty, but it wasn't easy to spot from any angle. We also had the right decision given for us against Chelsea when many refs would have given a penalty and sent Artur off for that dive by Oscar. It's hard to believe these things even themselves out and it does make me wonder if there's not some secret FA plan to ensure bigger clubs reach Europe ahead of us. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 3

3:45pm Sun 20 Apr 14

Rising_Son says...

redsnapper wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
I wasn't at the game today, so catching up on Football First. Ok...so we failed to put our chances away again today....but the football we play is nothing short of sublime.

We are sooo close to the vision. This close season will tell us whether it really can be achieved.
We are playing like Arsenal used to play (are playing) in terms of possession but with more pace. We need a finisher and we need our midfielders to chip in with 6 to 8 goals each per season. Easier said than done. But your are spot on with you close season comment. We also may need to forgive Osvaldo.
Even if we forgave Osvaldo I haven't seen anything to make me think he is the answer to our problems. No pace and ponderous on the ball, that's exactly what we don't want imho.
What do we have to forgive him for exactly?
Er after being our most expensive signing ever - not putting in a shift, not gelling with his teammates at a club where the commeraderie is second to none, physical assault on a team mate, sulkiness when being paid £75k a week. Do you want any more reasons?
Yes. more please? How about being a waste of money? Juv only want to offer £7m as he is not as good as they thought.
I never understood the deal where we supposedly agreed a transfer fee that technically made us a small profit. Why would they agree to that?

I'm convinced he always wanted to stay in Italy and because Roma refused to sell him to another club he used us as a route out and back.

Do we insure our players? If we do chuck him under the bus with FewShiteandDead and put a claim in!
We may have to forgive him because we won't be able to get our money back. I think that could become an issue. Having said that I don't want him back but I do think we could get stuck with him especially if MOPO stays. He was obviously brought here by MOPO.
I don't understand the issue. Any club which signs a player and then sells him on either makes a profit or a loss. All that really matters is how much the squad cost as a whole. With Luke, Adam, Spider, Nat, Jack, Callum, JWP, Jose,Steve all having cost next to nothing I'd say we are on the plus side more than any other Premiership side. If we have to get shot for £7-8million then he still has to go. Never want to see the tw@t back at St Marys.
Fact is we need another forward right now. SRL on his own is a tough ask and Sam is a greenhorn.
And a greenhorn he will stay if he doesn't play and get the experience he needs to move on from his present state of greenhornness.
[quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: I wasn't at the game today, so catching up on Football First. Ok...so we failed to put our chances away again today....but the football we play is nothing short of sublime. We are sooo close to the vision. This close season will tell us whether it really can be achieved.[/p][/quote]We are playing like Arsenal used to play (are playing) in terms of possession but with more pace. We need a finisher and we need our midfielders to chip in with 6 to 8 goals each per season. Easier said than done. But your are spot on with you close season comment. We also may need to forgive Osvaldo.[/p][/quote]Even if we forgave Osvaldo I haven't seen anything to make me think he is the answer to our problems. No pace and ponderous on the ball, that's exactly what we don't want imho.[/p][/quote]What do we have to forgive him for exactly?[/p][/quote]Er after being our most expensive signing ever - not putting in a shift, not gelling with his teammates at a club where the commeraderie is second to none, physical assault on a team mate, sulkiness when being paid £75k a week. Do you want any more reasons?[/p][/quote]Yes. more please? How about being a waste of money? Juv only want to offer £7m as he is not as good as they thought.[/p][/quote]I never understood the deal where we supposedly agreed a transfer fee that technically made us a small profit. Why would they agree to that? I'm convinced he always wanted to stay in Italy and because Roma refused to sell him to another club he used us as a route out and back. Do we insure our players? If we do chuck him under the bus with FewShiteandDead and put a claim in![/p][/quote]We may have to forgive him because we won't be able to get our money back. I think that could become an issue. Having said that I don't want him back but I do think we could get stuck with him especially if MOPO stays. He was obviously brought here by MOPO.[/p][/quote]I don't understand the issue. Any club which signs a player and then sells him on either makes a profit or a loss. All that really matters is how much the squad cost as a whole. With Luke, Adam, Spider, Nat, Jack, Callum, JWP, Jose,Steve all having cost next to nothing I'd say we are on the plus side more than any other Premiership side. If we have to get shot for £7-8million then he still has to go. Never want to see the tw@t back at St Marys.[/p][/quote]Fact is we need another forward right now. SRL on his own is a tough ask and Sam is a greenhorn.[/p][/quote]And a greenhorn he will stay if he doesn't play and get the experience he needs to move on from his present state of greenhornness. Rising_Son
  • Score: 2

3:54pm Sun 20 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

redsnapper wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Baddesley Bill wrote:
I wasn't at the game today, so catching up on Football First. Ok...so we failed to put our chances away again today....but the football we play is nothing short of sublime.

We are sooo close to the vision. This close season will tell us whether it really can be achieved.
We are playing like Arsenal used to play (are playing) in terms of possession but with more pace. We need a finisher and we need our midfielders to chip in with 6 to 8 goals each per season. Easier said than done. But your are spot on with you close season comment. We also may need to forgive Osvaldo.
Even if we forgave Osvaldo I haven't seen anything to make me think he is the answer to our problems. No pace and ponderous on the ball, that's exactly what we don't want imho.
What do we have to forgive him for exactly?
Er after being our most expensive signing ever - not putting in a shift, not gelling with his teammates at a club where the commeraderie is second to none, physical assault on a team mate, sulkiness when being paid £75k a week. Do you want any more reasons?
Yes. more please? How about being a waste of money? Juv only want to offer £7m as he is not as good as they thought.
I never understood the deal where we supposedly agreed a transfer fee that technically made us a small profit. Why would they agree to that?

I'm convinced he always wanted to stay in Italy and because Roma refused to sell him to another club he used us as a route out and back.

Do we insure our players? If we do chuck him under the bus with FewShiteandDead and put a claim in!
We may have to forgive him because we won't be able to get our money back. I think that could become an issue. Having said that I don't want him back but I do think we could get stuck with him especially if MOPO stays. He was obviously brought here by MOPO.
I don't understand the issue. Any club which signs a player and then sells him on either makes a profit or a loss. All that really matters is how much the squad cost as a whole. With Luke, Adam, Spider, Nat, Jack, Callum, JWP, Jose,Steve all having cost next to nothing I'd say we are on the plus side more than any other Premiership side. If we have to get shot for £7-8million then he still has to go. Never want to see the tw@t back at St Marys.
Fact is we need another forward right now. SRL on his own is a tough ask and Sam is a greenhorn.
Fact is we can't get one and will have to make do and mend.
[quote][p][bold]redsnapper[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Baddesley Bill[/bold] wrote: I wasn't at the game today, so catching up on Football First. Ok...so we failed to put our chances away again today....but the football we play is nothing short of sublime. We are sooo close to the vision. This close season will tell us whether it really can be achieved.[/p][/quote]We are playing like Arsenal used to play (are playing) in terms of possession but with more pace. We need a finisher and we need our midfielders to chip in with 6 to 8 goals each per season. Easier said than done. But your are spot on with you close season comment. We also may need to forgive Osvaldo.[/p][/quote]Even if we forgave Osvaldo I haven't seen anything to make me think he is the answer to our problems. No pace and ponderous on the ball, that's exactly what we don't want imho.[/p][/quote]What do we have to forgive him for exactly?[/p][/quote]Er after being our most expensive signing ever - not putting in a shift, not gelling with his teammates at a club where the commeraderie is second to none, physical assault on a team mate, sulkiness when being paid £75k a week. Do you want any more reasons?[/p][/quote]Yes. more please? How about being a waste of money? Juv only want to offer £7m as he is not as good as they thought.[/p][/quote]I never understood the deal where we supposedly agreed a transfer fee that technically made us a small profit. Why would they agree to that? I'm convinced he always wanted to stay in Italy and because Roma refused to sell him to another club he used us as a route out and back. Do we insure our players? If we do chuck him under the bus with FewShiteandDead and put a claim in![/p][/quote]We may have to forgive him because we won't be able to get our money back. I think that could become an issue. Having said that I don't want him back but I do think we could get stuck with him especially if MOPO stays. He was obviously brought here by MOPO.[/p][/quote]I don't understand the issue. Any club which signs a player and then sells him on either makes a profit or a loss. All that really matters is how much the squad cost as a whole. With Luke, Adam, Spider, Nat, Jack, Callum, JWP, Jose,Steve all having cost next to nothing I'd say we are on the plus side more than any other Premiership side. If we have to get shot for £7-8million then he still has to go. Never want to see the tw@t back at St Marys.[/p][/quote]Fact is we need another forward right now. SRL on his own is a tough ask and Sam is a greenhorn.[/p][/quote]Fact is we can't get one and will have to make do and mend. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

4:02pm Sun 20 Apr 14

SnapperSaint says...

Danny Welbeck anyone? Seems to want away from Manure (who wouldn't!) and wants to be a central striker, this from the BBC:
Manchester United striker Danny Welbeck is considering leaving the club.
The 23-year-old, who favours a central striking role, is frustrated at being used regularly in other positions.
He has two years left on his contract but is debating whether to move rather than accept a new deal if one is offered in the summer.
Danny Welbeck anyone? Seems to want away from Manure (who wouldn't!) and wants to be a central striker, this from the BBC: Manchester United striker Danny Welbeck is considering leaving the club. The 23-year-old, who favours a central striking role, is frustrated at being used regularly in other positions. He has two years left on his contract but is debating whether to move rather than accept a new deal if one is offered in the summer. SnapperSaint
  • Score: 1

4:23pm Sun 20 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

SnapperSaint wrote:
Danny Welbeck anyone? Seems to want away from Manure (who wouldn't!) and wants to be a central striker, this from the BBC:
Manchester United striker Danny Welbeck is considering leaving the club.
The 23-year-old, who favours a central striking role, is frustrated at being used regularly in other positions.
He has two years left on his contract but is debating whether to move rather than accept a new deal if one is offered in the summer.
I see he is on the bench again today, when he played with Rickie, they seemed to have a good understanding straightaway, probably out of our reach financially but would be useful if we could get him.
[quote][p][bold]SnapperSaint[/bold] wrote: Danny Welbeck anyone? Seems to want away from Manure (who wouldn't!) and wants to be a central striker, this from the BBC: Manchester United striker Danny Welbeck is considering leaving the club. The 23-year-old, who favours a central striking role, is frustrated at being used regularly in other positions. He has two years left on his contract but is debating whether to move rather than accept a new deal if one is offered in the summer.[/p][/quote]I see he is on the bench again today, when he played with Rickie, they seemed to have a good understanding straightaway, probably out of our reach financially but would be useful if we could get him. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

4:23pm Sun 20 Apr 14

Jan28th1984 says...

SnapperSaint wrote:
Danny Welbeck anyone? Seems to want away from Manure (who wouldn't!) and wants to be a central striker, this from the BBC: Manchester United striker Danny Welbeck is considering leaving the club. The 23-year-old, who favours a central striking role, is frustrated at being used regularly in other positions. He has two years left on his contract but is debating whether to move rather than accept a new deal if one is offered in the summer.
Nice one
[quote][p][bold]SnapperSaint[/bold] wrote: Danny Welbeck anyone? Seems to want away from Manure (who wouldn't!) and wants to be a central striker, this from the BBC: Manchester United striker Danny Welbeck is considering leaving the club. The 23-year-old, who favours a central striking role, is frustrated at being used regularly in other positions. He has two years left on his contract but is debating whether to move rather than accept a new deal if one is offered in the summer.[/p][/quote]Nice one Jan28th1984
  • Score: 0

4:27pm Sun 20 Apr 14

Jan28th1984 says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Clever Dick wrote: An away draw in the Prem is an ok result. In case all the moaners arn't aware we are seriously lacking in strikers at the moment with JRod's injury and Osvaldo's tiny brain. As we all know SRL is not the most mobile striker in the world and needs more support up front. We had 3 or four good chances yesterday to have a lash a goal but chose instead to pull it back and it didn't come off. Once again we were up against a twelfth man incapable of spotting yet aother nailed on penalty which probably cost us two more points. How many is that now that bent/incompetent offiials have cost us.Around 10 ponts I think. I think it would be a great idea for the club to make up a video of all the terrible decisions we are gettng ad show them on the big screen before the Manur game. And send a copy to the fools at the FA as well.
I agree, CD, but I think the club should wait until after the Manure game - it's not as though our lives depend on it. That way, the club wouldn't be accused of trying to influence the result. It should be dressed up as trying to 'help the wonderful officials to improve their game' rather than a direct assault on their utter uselessness. How many points lost? Not sure, but the games that spring immediately to mind where bad decisions have changed the context of the game and might well have cost us include: Yesterday, Sunderland (both games), Norwich away, Arsenal away (although I doubt we'd have equalised), Everton away, Liverpool at home, Stoke away, Spam both games, Man City away ..... (trying to remember last week's Cardiff match; was there another one there? ...... In contrast, how many BAD decisions have gone our way? Maybe at Anfield, Liverpool should have had a penalty, but it wasn't easy to spot from any angle. We also had the right decision given for us against Chelsea when many refs would have given a penalty and sent Artur off for that dive by Oscar. It's hard to believe these things even themselves out and it does make me wonder if there's not some secret FA plan to ensure bigger clubs reach Europe ahead of us.
A decision that went our way was when JRod and Speroni clashed at Palace for Rodriguez to score from - you know it, you just KNOW it that if Clutterbrain had been reffing that day he would have disallowed the goal and given Rodriguez a yellow card.....
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: An away draw in the Prem is an ok result. In case all the moaners arn't aware we are seriously lacking in strikers at the moment with JRod's injury and Osvaldo's tiny brain. As we all know SRL is not the most mobile striker in the world and needs more support up front. We had 3 or four good chances yesterday to have a lash a goal but chose instead to pull it back and it didn't come off. Once again we were up against a twelfth man incapable of spotting yet aother nailed on penalty which probably cost us two more points. How many is that now that bent/incompetent offiials have cost us.Around 10 ponts I think. I think it would be a great idea for the club to make up a video of all the terrible decisions we are gettng ad show them on the big screen before the Manur game. And send a copy to the fools at the FA as well.[/p][/quote]I agree, CD, but I think the club should wait until after the Manure game - it's not as though our lives depend on it. That way, the club wouldn't be accused of trying to influence the result. It should be dressed up as trying to 'help the wonderful officials to improve their game' rather than a direct assault on their utter uselessness. How many points lost? Not sure, but the games that spring immediately to mind where bad decisions have changed the context of the game and might well have cost us include: Yesterday, Sunderland (both games), Norwich away, Arsenal away (although I doubt we'd have equalised), Everton away, Liverpool at home, Stoke away, Spam both games, Man City away ..... (trying to remember last week's Cardiff match; was there another one there? ...... In contrast, how many BAD decisions have gone our way? Maybe at Anfield, Liverpool should have had a penalty, but it wasn't easy to spot from any angle. We also had the right decision given for us against Chelsea when many refs would have given a penalty and sent Artur off for that dive by Oscar. It's hard to believe these things even themselves out and it does make me wonder if there's not some secret FA plan to ensure bigger clubs reach Europe ahead of us.[/p][/quote]A decision that went our way was when JRod and Speroni clashed at Palace for Rodriguez to score from - you know it, you just KNOW it that if Clutterbrain had been reffing that day he would have disallowed the goal and given Rodriguez a yellow card..... Jan28th1984
  • Score: 2

4:34pm Sun 20 Apr 14

Jan28th1984 says...

warrens 76 wrote:
Speed around the box…Shaw is our most potent player because he gets behind the opposition quickly the rest want too much time… ..pretty play around their box is nice but with possession figures that defy all expectations we still cannot convert a minimal amount... I believe Puncheon offered us this option as well and it's a shame he went to Palace…. Aside from a back up keeper I think we need to bring in two very quick midfield/attackers who blend with what we have and a replacement CB for Hooiveld. We are kind of there and yet kinda not…anyone who enjoys the possession and chances we have had all season and continually fails to score has some interesting problems. I think it's a bit like a rubric cube it looks like you have solved it and yet a square is out of alignment it looks simple to put right but actually you have to rethink the entire 8loody thing.
Oh I don't know - players are inherently thick so to get them playing a system that works is the major achievement here, which Poch has succeeded at admirably. Adjusting a working system by adding and subtracting a player or two is a minor deal, and I think we are at that stage as regards the players we have.

What needs greater work on tactically is when we play other teams with tactically aware managers. We can beat (generally) the clubs below us, but the clubs above us have got us sussed out and adjust their own systems to suit.
What we need to do is work out a Plan B, and maybe a Plan C, to adjust OUR system to counter our opponents' adjustments, and that's where Poch and his team need to grow and develop.

It all takes time. Maybe not even next season but the season after next we should be pushing up a place or three in the table........
[quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Speed around the box…Shaw is our most potent player because he gets behind the opposition quickly the rest want too much time… ..pretty play around their box is nice but with possession figures that defy all expectations we still cannot convert a minimal amount... I believe Puncheon offered us this option as well and it's a shame he went to Palace…. Aside from a back up keeper I think we need to bring in two very quick midfield/attackers who blend with what we have and a replacement CB for Hooiveld. We are kind of there and yet kinda not…anyone who enjoys the possession and chances we have had all season and continually fails to score has some interesting problems. I think it's a bit like a rubric cube it looks like you have solved it and yet a square is out of alignment it looks simple to put right but actually you have to rethink the entire 8loody thing.[/p][/quote]Oh I don't know - players are inherently thick so to get them playing a system that works is the major achievement here, which Poch has succeeded at admirably. Adjusting a working system by adding and subtracting a player or two is a minor deal, and I think we are at that stage as regards the players we have. What needs greater work on tactically is when we play other teams with tactically aware managers. We can beat (generally) the clubs below us, but the clubs above us have got us sussed out and adjust their own systems to suit. What we need to do is work out a Plan B, and maybe a Plan C, to adjust OUR system to counter our opponents' adjustments, and that's where Poch and his team need to grow and develop. It all takes time. Maybe not even next season but the season after next we should be pushing up a place or three in the table........ Jan28th1984
  • Score: 1

4:46pm Sun 20 Apr 14

Velleity says...

Jan28th1984 wrote:
warrens 76 wrote:
Speed around the box…Shaw is our most potent player because he gets behind the opposition quickly the rest want too much time… ..pretty play around their box is nice but with possession figures that defy all expectations we still cannot convert a minimal amount... I believe Puncheon offered us this option as well and it's a shame he went to Palace…. Aside from a back up keeper I think we need to bring in two very quick midfield/attackers who blend with what we have and a replacement CB for Hooiveld. We are kind of there and yet kinda not…anyone who enjoys the possession and chances we have had all season and continually fails to score has some interesting problems. I think it's a bit like a rubric cube it looks like you have solved it and yet a square is out of alignment it looks simple to put right but actually you have to rethink the entire 8loody thing.
Oh I don't know - players are inherently thick so to get them playing a system that works is the major achievement here, which Poch has succeeded at admirably. Adjusting a working system by adding and subtracting a player or two is a minor deal, and I think we are at that stage as regards the players we have.

What needs greater work on tactically is when we play other teams with tactically aware managers. We can beat (generally) the clubs below us, but the clubs above us have got us sussed out and adjust their own systems to suit.
What we need to do is work out a Plan B, and maybe a Plan C, to adjust OUR system to counter our opponents' adjustments, and that's where Poch and his team need to grow and develop.

It all takes time. Maybe not even next season but the season after next we should be pushing up a place or three in the table........
You do have to admire a manager who, drawing away, takes off a midfielder and puts on another forward. Can you imagine the stick he'd have got (on here and everywhere) if we'd lost after that? I love having a bold manager.
[quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Speed around the box…Shaw is our most potent player because he gets behind the opposition quickly the rest want too much time… ..pretty play around their box is nice but with possession figures that defy all expectations we still cannot convert a minimal amount... I believe Puncheon offered us this option as well and it's a shame he went to Palace…. Aside from a back up keeper I think we need to bring in two very quick midfield/attackers who blend with what we have and a replacement CB for Hooiveld. We are kind of there and yet kinda not…anyone who enjoys the possession and chances we have had all season and continually fails to score has some interesting problems. I think it's a bit like a rubric cube it looks like you have solved it and yet a square is out of alignment it looks simple to put right but actually you have to rethink the entire 8loody thing.[/p][/quote]Oh I don't know - players are inherently thick so to get them playing a system that works is the major achievement here, which Poch has succeeded at admirably. Adjusting a working system by adding and subtracting a player or two is a minor deal, and I think we are at that stage as regards the players we have. What needs greater work on tactically is when we play other teams with tactically aware managers. We can beat (generally) the clubs below us, but the clubs above us have got us sussed out and adjust their own systems to suit. What we need to do is work out a Plan B, and maybe a Plan C, to adjust OUR system to counter our opponents' adjustments, and that's where Poch and his team need to grow and develop. It all takes time. Maybe not even next season but the season after next we should be pushing up a place or three in the table........[/p][/quote]You do have to admire a manager who, drawing away, takes off a midfielder and puts on another forward. Can you imagine the stick he'd have got (on here and everywhere) if we'd lost after that? I love having a bold manager. Velleity
  • Score: 2

4:51pm Sun 20 Apr 14

Jan28th1984 says...

Velleity wrote:
Jan28th1984 wrote:
warrens 76 wrote: Speed around the box…Shaw is our most potent player because he gets behind the opposition quickly the rest want too much time… ..pretty play around their box is nice but with possession figures that defy all expectations we still cannot convert a minimal amount... I believe Puncheon offered us this option as well and it's a shame he went to Palace…. Aside from a back up keeper I think we need to bring in two very quick midfield/attackers who blend with what we have and a replacement CB for Hooiveld. We are kind of there and yet kinda not…anyone who enjoys the possession and chances we have had all season and continually fails to score has some interesting problems. I think it's a bit like a rubric cube it looks like you have solved it and yet a square is out of alignment it looks simple to put right but actually you have to rethink the entire 8loody thing.
Oh I don't know - players are inherently thick so to get them playing a system that works is the major achievement here, which Poch has succeeded at admirably. Adjusting a working system by adding and subtracting a player or two is a minor deal, and I think we are at that stage as regards the players we have. What needs greater work on tactically is when we play other teams with tactically aware managers. We can beat (generally) the clubs below us, but the clubs above us have got us sussed out and adjust their own systems to suit. What we need to do is work out a Plan B, and maybe a Plan C, to adjust OUR system to counter our opponents' adjustments, and that's where Poch and his team need to grow and develop. It all takes time. Maybe not even next season but the season after next we should be pushing up a place or three in the table........
You do have to admire a manager who, drawing away, takes off a midfielder and puts on another forward. Can you imagine the stick he'd have got (on here and everywhere) if we'd lost after that? I love having a bold manager.
Yea he sticks to his principles, which is a good thing. He is saying "my system works, I expect my players to live up to it."
[quote][p][bold]Velleity[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]warrens 76[/bold] wrote: Speed around the box…Shaw is our most potent player because he gets behind the opposition quickly the rest want too much time… ..pretty play around their box is nice but with possession figures that defy all expectations we still cannot convert a minimal amount... I believe Puncheon offered us this option as well and it's a shame he went to Palace…. Aside from a back up keeper I think we need to bring in two very quick midfield/attackers who blend with what we have and a replacement CB for Hooiveld. We are kind of there and yet kinda not…anyone who enjoys the possession and chances we have had all season and continually fails to score has some interesting problems. I think it's a bit like a rubric cube it looks like you have solved it and yet a square is out of alignment it looks simple to put right but actually you have to rethink the entire 8loody thing.[/p][/quote]Oh I don't know - players are inherently thick so to get them playing a system that works is the major achievement here, which Poch has succeeded at admirably. Adjusting a working system by adding and subtracting a player or two is a minor deal, and I think we are at that stage as regards the players we have. What needs greater work on tactically is when we play other teams with tactically aware managers. We can beat (generally) the clubs below us, but the clubs above us have got us sussed out and adjust their own systems to suit. What we need to do is work out a Plan B, and maybe a Plan C, to adjust OUR system to counter our opponents' adjustments, and that's where Poch and his team need to grow and develop. It all takes time. Maybe not even next season but the season after next we should be pushing up a place or three in the table........[/p][/quote]You do have to admire a manager who, drawing away, takes off a midfielder and puts on another forward. Can you imagine the stick he'd have got (on here and everywhere) if we'd lost after that? I love having a bold manager.[/p][/quote]Yea he sticks to his principles, which is a good thing. He is saying "my system works, I expect my players to live up to it." Jan28th1984
  • Score: 0

5:08pm Sun 20 Apr 14

el caballo santos101 says...

SnapperSaint wrote:
Danny Welbeck anyone? Seems to want away from Manure (who wouldn't!) and wants to be a central striker, this from the BBC:
Manchester United striker Danny Welbeck is considering leaving the club.
The 23-year-old, who favours a central striking role, is frustrated at being used regularly in other positions.
He has two years left on his contract but is debating whether to move rather than accept a new deal if one is offered in the summer.
Apart from the fact that hes awful, and is only picked by Roy because hes at manure, he wouldn't like it here. Our style of football means the forwards are constantly changing and moving positions, oh and did I say hes awful!
[quote][p][bold]SnapperSaint[/bold] wrote: Danny Welbeck anyone? Seems to want away from Manure (who wouldn't!) and wants to be a central striker, this from the BBC: Manchester United striker Danny Welbeck is considering leaving the club. The 23-year-old, who favours a central striking role, is frustrated at being used regularly in other positions. He has two years left on his contract but is debating whether to move rather than accept a new deal if one is offered in the summer.[/p][/quote]Apart from the fact that hes awful, and is only picked by Roy because hes at manure, he wouldn't like it here. Our style of football means the forwards are constantly changing and moving positions, oh and did I say hes awful! el caballo santos101
  • Score: 4

5:15pm Sun 20 Apr 14

husky-1 says...

"""""THE TEAM DOES NOT HAVE GOAL"""""" .... need a killer of area ... the lack of low computer performance goal .. err is demotivante many goals for the team ......should ask dropped a player number 9

LAMBERT... as a player, is nice addition .... but not a killer of area
"""""THE TEAM DOES NOT HAVE GOAL"""""" .... need a killer of area ... the lack of low computer performance goal .. err is demotivante many goals for the team ......should ask dropped a player number 9 LAMBERT... as a player, is nice addition .... but not a killer of area husky-1
  • Score: -4

5:20pm Sun 20 Apr 14

Jan28th1984 says...

husky-1 wrote:
"""""THE TEAM DOES NOT HAVE GOAL"""""" .... need a killer of area ... the lack of low computer performance goal .. err is demotivante many goals for the team ......should ask dropped a player number 9 LAMBERT... as a player, is nice addition .... but not a killer of area
Deep breath, stay calm, gather your thoughts.
Now present them logically and sanely.
[quote][p][bold]husky-1[/bold] wrote: """""THE TEAM DOES NOT HAVE GOAL"""""" .... need a killer of area ... the lack of low computer performance goal .. err is demotivante many goals for the team ......should ask dropped a player number 9 LAMBERT... as a player, is nice addition .... but not a killer of area[/p][/quote]Deep breath, stay calm, gather your thoughts. Now present them logically and sanely. Jan28th1984
  • Score: 4

5:21pm Sun 20 Apr 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

husky-1 wrote:
"""""THE TEAM DOES NOT HAVE GOAL"""""" .... need a killer of area ... the lack of low computer performance goal .. err is demotivante many goals for the team ......should ask dropped a player number 9

LAMBERT... as a player, is nice addition .... but not a killer of area
Exactly.
[quote][p][bold]husky-1[/bold] wrote: """""THE TEAM DOES NOT HAVE GOAL"""""" .... need a killer of area ... the lack of low computer performance goal .. err is demotivante many goals for the team ......should ask dropped a player number 9 LAMBERT... as a player, is nice addition .... but not a killer of area[/p][/quote]Exactly. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

5:29pm Sun 20 Apr 14

angus mc coatup says...

husky-1 wrote:
"""""THE TEAM DOES NOT HAVE GOAL"""""" .... need a killer of area ... the lack of low computer performance goal .. err is demotivante many goals for the team ......should ask dropped a player number 9

LAMBERT... as a player, is nice addition .... but not a killer of area
That's easy for you to say.
[quote][p][bold]husky-1[/bold] wrote: """""THE TEAM DOES NOT HAVE GOAL"""""" .... need a killer of area ... the lack of low computer performance goal .. err is demotivante many goals for the team ......should ask dropped a player number 9 LAMBERT... as a player, is nice addition .... but not a killer of area[/p][/quote]That's easy for you to say. angus mc coatup
  • Score: 3

5:54pm Sun 20 Apr 14

SnapperSaint says...

Just watching Everton v Manure, I hope Luke Shaw deals with Coleman down the right better next Saturday than Buttner has today...his link up play with Lukaku is very effective!
Just watching Everton v Manure, I hope Luke Shaw deals with Coleman down the right better next Saturday than Buttner has today...his link up play with Lukaku is very effective! SnapperSaint
  • Score: 0

6:02pm Sun 20 Apr 14

st.athan saint says...

Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness wrote:
Maybe Poch is starting to deal with reality. If he said "wasteful" rather than "unlucky" at least that's a start. If you're "unlucky" every week, Poch, then your team is in the Championship and you're out of a job. So, you better sort out "unlucky" from "out of ideas" before August or that's where Saints will be headed next season if you don't get it sorted. Maybe you could start by selling Wonderboy, "Professional Footballer of the Year," to United or Palace or Cardiff or somebody. How many goals did Wonderboy set up today, happy-clappers?
This wouldn't be the " wonderboy " who the premiership PLAYERS have nominated for player of the year would it !!!
[quote][p][bold]Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness[/bold] wrote: Maybe Poch is starting to deal with reality. If he said "wasteful" rather than "unlucky" at least that's a start. If you're "unlucky" every week, Poch, then your team is in the Championship and you're out of a job. So, you better sort out "unlucky" from "out of ideas" before August or that's where Saints will be headed next season if you don't get it sorted. Maybe you could start by selling Wonderboy, "Professional Footballer of the Year," to United or Palace or Cardiff or somebody. How many goals did Wonderboy set up today, happy-clappers?[/p][/quote]This wouldn't be the " wonderboy " who the premiership PLAYERS have nominated for player of the year would it !!! st.athan saint
  • Score: 3

6:40pm Sun 20 Apr 14

warrens 76 says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
Clever Dick wrote:
An away draw in the Prem is an ok result. In case all the moaners arn't aware we are seriously lacking in strikers at the moment with JRod's injury and Osvaldo's tiny brain. As we all know SRL is not the most mobile striker in the world and needs more support up front. We had 3 or four good chances yesterday to have a lash a goal but chose instead to pull it back and it didn't come off. Once again we were up against a twelfth man incapable of spotting yet aother nailed on penalty which probably cost us two more points. How many is that now that bent/incompetent offiials have cost us.Around 10 ponts I think. I think it would be a great idea for the club to make up a video of all the terrible decisions we are gettng ad show them on the big screen before the Manur game. And send a copy to the fools at the FA as well.
I agree, CD, but I think the club should wait until after the Manure game - it's not as though our lives depend on it. That way, the club wouldn't be accused of trying to influence the result. It should be dressed up as trying to 'help the wonderful officials to improve their game' rather than a direct assault on their utter uselessness.

How many points lost? Not sure, but the games that spring immediately to mind where bad decisions have changed the context of the game and might well have cost us include: Yesterday, Sunderland (both games), Norwich away, Arsenal away (although I doubt we'd have equalised), Everton away, Liverpool at home, Stoke away, Spam both games, Man City away ..... (trying to remember last week's Cardiff match; was there another one there? ...... In contrast, how many BAD decisions have gone our way? Maybe at Anfield, Liverpool should have had a penalty, but it wasn't easy to spot from any angle. We also had the right decision given for us against Chelsea when many refs would have given a penalty and sent Artur off for that dive by Oscar.

It's hard to believe these things even themselves out and it does make me wonder if there's not some secret FA plan to ensure bigger clubs reach Europe ahead of us.
I reckon it as 15 points against us in terms of points lost …
that puts us in top six which is spot on…if we could hit the net with a half reasonable conversion we would be top four..
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Clever Dick[/bold] wrote: An away draw in the Prem is an ok result. In case all the moaners arn't aware we are seriously lacking in strikers at the moment with JRod's injury and Osvaldo's tiny brain. As we all know SRL is not the most mobile striker in the world and needs more support up front. We had 3 or four good chances yesterday to have a lash a goal but chose instead to pull it back and it didn't come off. Once again we were up against a twelfth man incapable of spotting yet aother nailed on penalty which probably cost us two more points. How many is that now that bent/incompetent offiials have cost us.Around 10 ponts I think. I think it would be a great idea for the club to make up a video of all the terrible decisions we are gettng ad show them on the big screen before the Manur game. And send a copy to the fools at the FA as well.[/p][/quote]I agree, CD, but I think the club should wait until after the Manure game - it's not as though our lives depend on it. That way, the club wouldn't be accused of trying to influence the result. It should be dressed up as trying to 'help the wonderful officials to improve their game' rather than a direct assault on their utter uselessness. How many points lost? Not sure, but the games that spring immediately to mind where bad decisions have changed the context of the game and might well have cost us include: Yesterday, Sunderland (both games), Norwich away, Arsenal away (although I doubt we'd have equalised), Everton away, Liverpool at home, Stoke away, Spam both games, Man City away ..... (trying to remember last week's Cardiff match; was there another one there? ...... In contrast, how many BAD decisions have gone our way? Maybe at Anfield, Liverpool should have had a penalty, but it wasn't easy to spot from any angle. We also had the right decision given for us against Chelsea when many refs would have given a penalty and sent Artur off for that dive by Oscar. It's hard to believe these things even themselves out and it does make me wonder if there's not some secret FA plan to ensure bigger clubs reach Europe ahead of us.[/p][/quote]I reckon it as 15 points against us in terms of points lost … that puts us in top six which is spot on…if we could hit the net with a half reasonable conversion we would be top four.. warrens 76
  • Score: 3

8:15pm Sun 20 Apr 14

el caballo santos101 says...

st.athan saint wrote:
Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness wrote:
Maybe Poch is starting to deal with reality. If he said "wasteful" rather than "unlucky" at least that's a start. If you're "unlucky" every week, Poch, then your team is in the Championship and you're out of a job. So, you better sort out "unlucky" from "out of ideas" before August or that's where Saints will be headed next season if you don't get it sorted. Maybe you could start by selling Wonderboy, "Professional Footballer of the Year," to United or Palace or Cardiff or somebody. How many goals did Wonderboy set up today, happy-clappers?
This wouldn't be the " wonderboy " who the premiership PLAYERS have nominated for player of the year would it !!!
look st.athan saint I don't know who you are but you are quite obviously wrong here.
just like the media, pundits, fans throughout the country, managers of other clubs, players, the England manager and saints fans for yeas (basically everyone else) who are all wrong!
mentally challenged is out there on his own and is of course obviously correct in his/her opinion that lalla is a lightweight player who is only good enough for L1. this opinion is of course proven correct every time saints or England pick him and he doesn't score or set up any goals!
i do wonder how we have all been so wrong about lalla and it has taken mentally challenged to point this out to us all.
don't for one second think that mentally challenged keeps calling lalla a poor player and abuses other saints players and fans because he/she is anything but a saints fan! and don't question his/her support for saints or you will be given loads of abuse and called a member of the forum police and a happy clapper.
just remember everyone else is wrong and mentally challenged is right, oh and don't bother responding to his/her posts with facts and proof because it just isn't worth it!
(by he way for those who haven't worked it out I am being just a tad sarcastic here!) ;0)
[quote][p][bold]st.athan saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness[/bold] wrote: Maybe Poch is starting to deal with reality. If he said "wasteful" rather than "unlucky" at least that's a start. If you're "unlucky" every week, Poch, then your team is in the Championship and you're out of a job. So, you better sort out "unlucky" from "out of ideas" before August or that's where Saints will be headed next season if you don't get it sorted. Maybe you could start by selling Wonderboy, "Professional Footballer of the Year," to United or Palace or Cardiff or somebody. How many goals did Wonderboy set up today, happy-clappers?[/p][/quote]This wouldn't be the " wonderboy " who the premiership PLAYERS have nominated for player of the year would it !!![/p][/quote]look st.athan saint I don't know who you are but you are quite obviously wrong here. just like the media, pundits, fans throughout the country, managers of other clubs, players, the England manager and saints fans for yeas (basically everyone else) who are all wrong! mentally challenged is out there on his own and is of course obviously correct in his/her opinion that lalla is a lightweight player who is only good enough for L1. this opinion is of course proven correct every time saints or England pick him and he doesn't score or set up any goals! i do wonder how we have all been so wrong about lalla and it has taken mentally challenged to point this out to us all. don't for one second think that mentally challenged keeps calling lalla a poor player and abuses other saints players and fans because he/she is anything but a saints fan! and don't question his/her support for saints or you will be given loads of abuse and called a member of the forum police and a happy clapper. just remember everyone else is wrong and mentally challenged is right, oh and don't bother responding to his/her posts with facts and proof because it just isn't worth it! (by he way for those who haven't worked it out I am being just a tad sarcastic here!) ;0) el caballo santos101
  • Score: 2

8:53pm Sun 20 Apr 14

miltonnroad76 says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
st.athan saint wrote:
Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness wrote:
Maybe Poch is starting to deal with reality. If he said "wasteful" rather than "unlucky" at least that's a start. If you're "unlucky" every week, Poch, then your team is in the Championship and you're out of a job. So, you better sort out "unlucky" from "out of ideas" before August or that's where Saints will be headed next season if you don't get it sorted. Maybe you could start by selling Wonderboy, "Professional Footballer of the Year," to United or Palace or Cardiff or somebody. How many goals did Wonderboy set up today, happy-clappers?
This wouldn't be the " wonderboy " who the premiership PLAYERS have nominated for player of the year would it !!!
look st.athan saint I don't know who you are but you are quite obviously wrong here.
just like the media, pundits, fans throughout the country, managers of other clubs, players, the England manager and saints fans for yeas (basically everyone else) who are all wrong!
mentally challenged is out there on his own and is of course obviously correct in his/her opinion that lalla is a lightweight player who is only good enough for L1. this opinion is of course proven correct every time saints or England pick him and he doesn't score or set up any goals!
i do wonder how we have all been so wrong about lalla and it has taken mentally challenged to point this out to us all.
don't for one second think that mentally challenged keeps calling lalla a poor player and abuses other saints players and fans because he/she is anything but a saints fan! and don't question his/her support for saints or you will be given loads of abuse and called a member of the forum police and a happy clapper.
just remember everyone else is wrong and mentally challenged is right, oh and don't bother responding to his/her posts with facts and proof because it just isn't worth it!
(by he way for those who haven't worked it out I am being just a tad sarcastic here!) ;0)
Mentally challenged is obviously a skate even his log in name is an insult..hes just trying to stir up discontent ....however having started so ill finish.... THIS is Saints best ever finish in the prem league and the 7 teams above us are all established quality sides (ok maybe not spurs) the fact we are on their coatails in our 2nd season back is an awesome acheivement PLUS maybe 3 saints going to the world cup ( instead of 4) which has never happened in our history!!! Happy days and sorry anyone saints fan who thinks otherwise need to get real and watch us next season..
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]st.athan saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saints Need Physical and Mental Toughness[/bold] wrote: Maybe Poch is starting to deal with reality. If he said "wasteful" rather than "unlucky" at least that's a start. If you're "unlucky" every week, Poch, then your team is in the Championship and you're out of a job. So, you better sort out "unlucky" from "out of ideas" before August or that's where Saints will be headed next season if you don't get it sorted. Maybe you could start by selling Wonderboy, "Professional Footballer of the Year," to United or Palace or Cardiff or somebody. How many goals did Wonderboy set up today, happy-clappers?[/p][/quote]This wouldn't be the " wonderboy " who the premiership PLAYERS have nominated for player of the year would it !!![/p][/quote]look st.athan saint I don't know who you are but you are quite obviously wrong here. just like the media, pundits, fans throughout the country, managers of other clubs, players, the England manager and saints fans for yeas (basically everyone else) who are all wrong! mentally challenged is out there on his own and is of course obviously correct in his/her opinion that lalla is a lightweight player who is only good enough for L1. this opinion is of course proven correct every time saints or England pick him and he doesn't score or set up any goals! i do wonder how we have all been so wrong about lalla and it has taken mentally challenged to point this out to us all. don't for one second think that mentally challenged keeps calling lalla a poor player and abuses other saints players and fans because he/she is anything but a saints fan! and don't question his/her support for saints or you will be given loads of abuse and called a member of the forum police and a happy clapper. just remember everyone else is wrong and mentally challenged is right, oh and don't bother responding to his/her posts with facts and proof because it just isn't worth it! (by he way for those who haven't worked it out I am being just a tad sarcastic here!) ;0)[/p][/quote]Mentally challenged is obviously a skate even his log in name is an insult..hes just trying to stir up discontent ....however having started so ill finish.... THIS is Saints best ever finish in the prem league and the 7 teams above us are all established quality sides (ok maybe not spurs) the fact we are on their coatails in our 2nd season back is an awesome acheivement PLUS maybe 3 saints going to the world cup ( instead of 4) which has never happened in our history!!! Happy days and sorry anyone saints fan who thinks otherwise need to get real and watch us next season.. miltonnroad76
  • Score: 1

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