Lallana proud of Saints' World Cup contingent

Daily Echo: Adam Lallana Adam Lallana

SAINTS star Adam Lallana has spoken of his delight at having a contingent of the club's past and present players in England’s World Cup squad.

Roy Hodgson’s men are putting the finishing touches to their preparations for their first group D game – against Italy on Saturday night – and Lallana looks increasingly likely to be handed a starting spot.

But the fact he and fellow Saint Luke Shaw, plus former St Mary’s stars Rickie Lambert and Alex Oxlade Chamberlain are mixing it with the world’s best just three seasons after Saints’ time in League 1 is not lost on the 26 year old.

“It is great to kind of meet up again with Chambo and be here with Rickie.

“It is great when you talk of the journey we’ve been on and what a remarkable achievement it is.

“We’re just enjoying it – well, I certainly am and I know Rickie is as well.

“I’m just going to keep enjoying it and take it in our stride.”

Oxlade-Chamberlain, understandably, is not having such a great time so far, given a medial ligament damage sustained last week is threatening his World Cup place. Lambert, now 32, appears more than content to be involved in the squad, while Lallana is pushing for a starting role in the Group D opener - two years after watching England get knocked out by them at Euro 2012 from his sofa.

"I want to be here and play, keep working hard in training and doing all I can to force myself in to the first eleven," he said.

"I know what my job is. The better I play the more chance I have to stay in the team or if not then to make a contribution from the bench.

"Everyone is entitled to their opinions. I am just going to keep focusing on training hard and doing as much as I can to impress the manager.

"Three years ago I was playing in League One so just to be here at a World Cup is a massive achievement and anything else is a bonus."

The surprise rise forced Lallana to bring his wedding forward six months to avoid missing a first major tournament - one which he has come to with a personalised wash bag made by his wife, Emily, with pictures of their young son, Arthur.

Family is important to the 26-year-old who will be joined in Brazil by some of those closest to him less than a decade after a heart defect threatened his career - an issue he looks at philosophically.

"It was a challenging time, but people have worse problems out there than I did and come through them," Lallana said.

"It wasn’t nice at the time, no, but I was lucky enough to have a good family around me and the club were good with me at the time."

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7:17am Tue 10 Jun 14

Sussex Jay says...

Watching him on sky sports hopefully he understands he can achieve alot staying at saints,he got into the squad playing for saints so it proves you don't have to be at man u etc to get picked, but if any of the lads have lost hart playing for us then let's all move on!!coyr !!!
Watching him on sky sports hopefully he understands he can achieve alot staying at saints,he got into the squad playing for saints so it proves you don't have to be at man u etc to get picked, but if any of the lads have lost hart playing for us then let's all move on!!coyr !!! Sussex Jay
  • Score: 37

7:28am Tue 10 Jun 14

Sammy2sheds says...

Nice wind up by the echo
Nice wind up by the echo Sammy2sheds
  • Score: -17

7:28am Tue 10 Jun 14

Chapperall says...

The number of a Saints players in the World Cup just demonstrates how far this club of ours has come! Just need some good news like getting the manager sorted and reinforcing the squad such as a replacement striker for Ricky and a CB
The number of a Saints players in the World Cup just demonstrates how far this club of ours has come! Just need some good news like getting the manager sorted and reinforcing the squad such as a replacement striker for Ricky and a CB Chapperall
  • Score: 35

7:36am Tue 10 Jun 14

randre says...

The fact he is aware that the club have been good to him to help him through his heart defect problem, hopefully he will realise that the club deserve at least another year. With the players we have at the club this coming season could be a great one. For all the negativity surrounding the club, they still have only sold Lambert (correct decision for him and the club in my opinion) and lost Pochettino, who clearly had no intention of staying, he had no loyalty to the club or anybody connected to it.

Let's wish our players all the best and fingers crossed they realise they ssee a future with Saints could be a very exciting one.
The fact he is aware that the club have been good to him to help him through his heart defect problem, hopefully he will realise that the club deserve at least another year. With the players we have at the club this coming season could be a great one. For all the negativity surrounding the club, they still have only sold Lambert (correct decision for him and the club in my opinion) and lost Pochettino, who clearly had no intention of staying, he had no loyalty to the club or anybody connected to it. Let's wish our players all the best and fingers crossed they realise they ssee a future with Saints could be a very exciting one. randre
  • Score: 38

7:42am Tue 10 Jun 14

noodlesnewman says...

randre wrote:
The fact he is aware that the club have been good to him to help him through his heart defect problem, hopefully he will realise that the club deserve at least another year. With the players we have at the club this coming season could be a great one. For all the negativity surrounding the club, they still have only sold Lambert (correct decision for him and the club in my opinion) and lost Pochettino, who clearly had no intention of staying, he had no loyalty to the club or anybody connected to it.

Let's wish our players all the best and fingers crossed they realise they ssee a future with Saints could be a very exciting one.
BRING ON RON KOEMAN ! COYR !
[quote][p][bold]randre[/bold] wrote: The fact he is aware that the club have been good to him to help him through his heart defect problem, hopefully he will realise that the club deserve at least another year. With the players we have at the club this coming season could be a great one. For all the negativity surrounding the club, they still have only sold Lambert (correct decision for him and the club in my opinion) and lost Pochettino, who clearly had no intention of staying, he had no loyalty to the club or anybody connected to it. Let's wish our players all the best and fingers crossed they realise they ssee a future with Saints could be a very exciting one.[/p][/quote]BRING ON RON KOEMAN ! COYR ! noodlesnewman
  • Score: 19

7:47am Tue 10 Jun 14

andoru says...

Don't know about the rest of you, but I'm definitely still claiming Ricky Lambert. He's not a Liverpool player until he's played for them. I mean, he hasn't even had a training session up there yet! He's still a Saint to me. And so is Adam. I hope his pride in the club extends to honouring his contract and sticking with us.
Don't know about the rest of you, but I'm definitely still claiming Ricky Lambert. He's not a Liverpool player until he's played for them. I mean, he hasn't even had a training session up there yet! He's still a Saint to me. And so is Adam. I hope his pride in the club extends to honouring his contract and sticking with us. andoru
  • Score: 66

7:57am Tue 10 Jun 14

Chapperall says...

noodlesnewman wrote:
randre wrote:
The fact he is aware that the club have been good to him to help him through his heart defect problem, hopefully he will realise that the club deserve at least another year. With the players we have at the club this coming season could be a great one. For all the negativity surrounding the club, they still have only sold Lambert (correct decision for him and the club in my opinion) and lost Pochettino, who clearly had no intention of staying, he had no loyalty to the club or anybody connected to it.

Let's wish our players all the best and fingers crossed they realise they ssee a future with Saints could be a very exciting one.
BRING ON RON KOEMAN ! COYR !
Yes Koeman sounds like a good move
[quote][p][bold]noodlesnewman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]randre[/bold] wrote: The fact he is aware that the club have been good to him to help him through his heart defect problem, hopefully he will realise that the club deserve at least another year. With the players we have at the club this coming season could be a great one. For all the negativity surrounding the club, they still have only sold Lambert (correct decision for him and the club in my opinion) and lost Pochettino, who clearly had no intention of staying, he had no loyalty to the club or anybody connected to it. Let's wish our players all the best and fingers crossed they realise they ssee a future with Saints could be a very exciting one.[/p][/quote]BRING ON RON KOEMAN ! COYR ![/p][/quote]Yes Koeman sounds like a good move Chapperall
  • Score: 13

8:02am Tue 10 Jun 14

Benali76 says...

The news this morning is RK going out to 2.5 and Ranieri dropping to 4.5 on the betting markets. That can either mean RK is pondering or Saints are weighing up their options, or someone has started a rumour without foundation. I would still prefer RK but Ranieri is definitely a big name when you look at the club's on his CV.
The news this morning is RK going out to 2.5 and Ranieri dropping to 4.5 on the betting markets. That can either mean RK is pondering or Saints are weighing up their options, or someone has started a rumour without foundation. I would still prefer RK but Ranieri is definitely a big name when you look at the club's on his CV. Benali76
  • Score: 12

8:03am Tue 10 Jun 14

St.Gaz says...

andoru wrote:
Don't know about the rest of you, but I'm definitely still claiming Ricky Lambert. He's not a Liverpool player until he's played for them. I mean, he hasn't even had a training session up there yet! He's still a Saint to me. And so is Adam. I hope his pride in the club extends to honouring his contract and sticking with us.
Dead right he's never kicked a ball for them and is still saints till he dose!!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]andoru[/bold] wrote: Don't know about the rest of you, but I'm definitely still claiming Ricky Lambert. He's not a Liverpool player until he's played for them. I mean, he hasn't even had a training session up there yet! He's still a Saint to me. And so is Adam. I hope his pride in the club extends to honouring his contract and sticking with us.[/p][/quote]Dead right he's never kicked a ball for them and is still saints till he dose!!!!!! St.Gaz
  • Score: 24

8:04am Tue 10 Jun 14

Benali76 says...

andoru wrote:
Don't know about the rest of you, but I'm definitely still claiming Ricky Lambert. He's not a Liverpool player until he's played for them. I mean, he hasn't even had a training session up there yet! He's still a Saint to me. And so is Adam. I hope his pride in the club extends to honouring his contract and sticking with us.
Me too. SRL is in my boys Panini sticker book as Saints, that's enough for me.
[quote][p][bold]andoru[/bold] wrote: Don't know about the rest of you, but I'm definitely still claiming Ricky Lambert. He's not a Liverpool player until he's played for them. I mean, he hasn't even had a training session up there yet! He's still a Saint to me. And so is Adam. I hope his pride in the club extends to honouring his contract and sticking with us.[/p][/quote]Me too. SRL is in my boys Panini sticker book as Saints, that's enough for me. Benali76
  • Score: 27

8:20am Tue 10 Jun 14

Chapperall says...

Benali76 wrote:
andoru wrote:
Don't know about the rest of you, but I'm definitely still claiming Ricky Lambert. He's not a Liverpool player until he's played for them. I mean, he hasn't even had a training session up there yet! He's still a Saint to me. And so is Adam. I hope his pride in the club extends to honouring his contract and sticking with us.
Me too. SRL is in my boys Panini sticker book as Saints, that's enough for me.
Agreed Ricky was special. It will feel strange not seeing him on the team sheet. However onwards and upwards just need to get a replacement in as Sam is not the finished product yet!
[quote][p][bold]Benali76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andoru[/bold] wrote: Don't know about the rest of you, but I'm definitely still claiming Ricky Lambert. He's not a Liverpool player until he's played for them. I mean, he hasn't even had a training session up there yet! He's still a Saint to me. And so is Adam. I hope his pride in the club extends to honouring his contract and sticking with us.[/p][/quote]Me too. SRL is in my boys Panini sticker book as Saints, that's enough for me.[/p][/quote]Agreed Ricky was special. It will feel strange not seeing him on the team sheet. However onwards and upwards just need to get a replacement in as Sam is not the finished product yet! Chapperall
  • Score: 9

8:24am Tue 10 Jun 14

Saddogitte says...

"The club were good to me at the time." Does this mean they haven't been good to him since???
"The club were good to me at the time." Does this mean they haven't been good to him since??? Saddogitte
  • Score: 22

8:30am Tue 10 Jun 14

pitbull says...

Including Rickie, we have 7 players in Brazil, which is one more than the Spuds.
We should have had 9 in the World Cup as I think Clyne should have been taken and not forgetting Jay of course.
Including Rickie, we have 7 players in Brazil, which is one more than the Spuds. We should have had 9 in the World Cup as I think Clyne should have been taken and not forgetting Jay of course. pitbull
  • Score: 17

8:47am Tue 10 Jun 14

jls217 says...

Now I understand the players have all been coached how to avoid leading questions and dodge having to say anything with any substance at all but is there some sort of coded message in there for Saints fans or is it just my wishful thinking?
Now I understand the players have all been coached how to avoid leading questions and dodge having to say anything with any substance at all but is there some sort of coded message in there for Saints fans or is it just my wishful thinking? jls217
  • Score: 8

8:49am Tue 10 Jun 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

The fact is ... ARSE-NIL destroy Players potential.

OX-C moved too early is his development taking a League One developing Saints Player (who used to get subbed with cramp) to high intensity football. Result OX-C is a fast burning - injury prone footballer (lots of bench time)

SAINTS FANS WARNED HIM about this before his move.

Walcott is the same - not reaching the heights that he could of - had he stayed.

ADAM - his football and well being will continue to improve by committing to SAINTS.
The fact is ... ARSE-NIL destroy Players potential. OX-C moved too early is his development taking a League One developing Saints Player (who used to get subbed with cramp) to high intensity football. Result OX-C is a fast burning - injury prone footballer (lots of bench time) SAINTS FANS WARNED HIM about this before his move. Walcott is the same - not reaching the heights that he could of - had he stayed. ADAM - his football and well being will continue to improve by committing to SAINTS. The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 19

8:58am Tue 10 Jun 14

Mush On The Beach says...

Could our boys create another historic subbuteo moment?

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Could our boys create another historic subbuteo moment? http://www.mirror.co .uk/sport/football/w orld-cup-2014/subbut eo-world-cup-history -created-3668195 Mush On The Beach
  • Score: 1

9:01am Tue 10 Jun 14

Jesus_02 says...

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
The fact is ... ARSE-NIL destroy Players potential.

OX-C moved too early is his development taking a League One developing Saints Player (who used to get subbed with cramp) to high intensity football. Result OX-C is a fast burning - injury prone footballer (lots of bench time)

SAINTS FANS WARNED HIM about this before his move.

Walcott is the same - not reaching the heights that he could of - had he stayed.

ADAM - his football and well being will continue to improve by committing to SAINTS.
Dead right...This is why I have a problem with Hodgeson saying that its the natural order and life isn't fair. He should be commenting on what is good for England.. i.e . players staying at a club where they will get game time and the best training facilities in the country
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: The fact is ... ARSE-NIL destroy Players potential. OX-C moved too early is his development taking a League One developing Saints Player (who used to get subbed with cramp) to high intensity football. Result OX-C is a fast burning - injury prone footballer (lots of bench time) SAINTS FANS WARNED HIM about this before his move. Walcott is the same - not reaching the heights that he could of - had he stayed. ADAM - his football and well being will continue to improve by committing to SAINTS.[/p][/quote]Dead right...This is why I have a problem with Hodgeson saying that its the natural order and life isn't fair. He should be commenting on what is good for England.. i.e . players staying at a club where they will get game time and the best training facilities in the country Jesus_02
  • Score: 13

9:07am Tue 10 Jun 14

Saint Jinx says...

What an excellent bloke. It just shows - there is only one problem in life that cannot be overcome and I sadly I have witnessed that at close hand recently, the death of my best friend ever, my soul mate, my wife...
What an excellent bloke. It just shows - there is only one problem in life that cannot be overcome and I sadly I have witnessed that at close hand recently, the death of my best friend ever, my soul mate, my wife... Saint Jinx
  • Score: 33

9:12am Tue 10 Jun 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Benali76 wrote:
The news this morning is RK going out to 2.5 and Ranieri dropping to 4.5 on the betting markets. That can either mean RK is pondering or Saints are weighing up their options, or someone has started a rumour without foundation. I would still prefer RK but Ranieri is definitely a big name when you look at the club's on his CV.
Think I'd prefer Koeman, Ranieri has been sacked a little too often for my liking.
[quote][p][bold]Benali76[/bold] wrote: The news this morning is RK going out to 2.5 and Ranieri dropping to 4.5 on the betting markets. That can either mean RK is pondering or Saints are weighing up their options, or someone has started a rumour without foundation. I would still prefer RK but Ranieri is definitely a big name when you look at the club's on his CV.[/p][/quote]Think I'd prefer Koeman, Ranieri has been sacked a little too often for my liking. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 8

9:27am Tue 10 Jun 14

pitbull says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Benali76 wrote:
The news this morning is RK going out to 2.5 and Ranieri dropping to 4.5 on the betting markets. That can either mean RK is pondering or Saints are weighing up their options, or someone has started a rumour without foundation. I would still prefer RK but Ranieri is definitely a big name when you look at the club's on his CV.
Think I'd prefer Koeman, Ranieri has been sacked a little too often for my liking.
Monaco sacked Ranieri because he didn't win the title and came 2nd,even though it was his first season back in the top league after getting promoted.
Sounds like the Monaco chairman is a bit like Levy.

I would still prefer Koeman because he's a lot younger than Ranieri (62) and also because I want Graziano Pelle to lead the attack for Saints.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Benali76[/bold] wrote: The news this morning is RK going out to 2.5 and Ranieri dropping to 4.5 on the betting markets. That can either mean RK is pondering or Saints are weighing up their options, or someone has started a rumour without foundation. I would still prefer RK but Ranieri is definitely a big name when you look at the club's on his CV.[/p][/quote]Think I'd prefer Koeman, Ranieri has been sacked a little too often for my liking.[/p][/quote]Monaco sacked Ranieri because he didn't win the title and came 2nd,even though it was his first season back in the top league after getting promoted. Sounds like the Monaco chairman is a bit like Levy. I would still prefer Koeman because he's a lot younger than Ranieri (62) and also because I want Graziano Pelle to lead the attack for Saints. pitbull
  • Score: 7

9:28am Tue 10 Jun 14

damoose says...

The 2013/14 season brings back memories of 96/97...Le Tissier Berkovic Ostenstad were ripping the opposition apart 6-3 v Manure etc...Souness had repaired his reputation with some exciting football down here and excellent new-signings that made immediate- impact,everything was looking up,all we needed was 2 or 3 more player`s to really challenge for the top... then Souness left ..Berkovic kicked up a fuss and was soon off to West Ham..the MoPo era and the Souness era are so similar it`s spooky.we must not make the same mistakes we made back then,and let them rip our squad apart...
The 2013/14 season brings back memories of 96/97...Le Tissier Berkovic Ostenstad were ripping the opposition apart 6-3 v Manure etc...Souness had repaired his reputation with some exciting football down here and excellent new-signings that made immediate- impact,everything was looking up,all we needed was 2 or 3 more player`s to really challenge for the top... then Souness left ..Berkovic kicked up a fuss and was soon off to West Ham..the MoPo era and the Souness era are so similar it`s spooky.we must not make the same mistakes we made back then,and let them rip our squad apart... damoose
  • Score: 10

9:44am Tue 10 Jun 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

damoose wrote:
The 2013/14 season brings back memories of 96/97...Le Tissier Berkovic Ostenstad were ripping the opposition apart 6-3 v Manure etc...Souness had repaired his reputation with some exciting football down here and excellent new-signings that made immediate- impact,everything was looking up,all we needed was 2 or 3 more player`s to really challenge for the top... then Souness left ..Berkovic kicked up a fuss and was soon off to West Ham..the MoPo era and the Souness era are so similar it`s spooky.we must not make the same mistakes we made back then,and let them rip our squad apart...
Unfortunately damoose the lessons of the past are only retained by the fans. New owners, new directors, new managers, new coaches and new players mean there is no one at the club that is even aware of those facts.
[quote][p][bold]damoose[/bold] wrote: The 2013/14 season brings back memories of 96/97...Le Tissier Berkovic Ostenstad were ripping the opposition apart 6-3 v Manure etc...Souness had repaired his reputation with some exciting football down here and excellent new-signings that made immediate- impact,everything was looking up,all we needed was 2 or 3 more player`s to really challenge for the top... then Souness left ..Berkovic kicked up a fuss and was soon off to West Ham..the MoPo era and the Souness era are so similar it`s spooky.we must not make the same mistakes we made back then,and let them rip our squad apart...[/p][/quote]Unfortunately damoose the lessons of the past are only retained by the fans. New owners, new directors, new managers, new coaches and new players mean there is no one at the club that is even aware of those facts. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 7

9:49am Tue 10 Jun 14

Jesus_02 says...

As the World Cup starts and the media circus surrounding transfers disappears for a while. Lallana, Shaw and even Lambert will realise what it means to Saints fans to have three players in the England Squad for a world cup.

The majority of players are emotional people that have a deep passion for the game. Unfortunately agents passion is for money and they have an unrivaled access to players.

Sentiment is not weakness. I hope that for Adams sake that sentiment wins through.
As the World Cup starts and the media circus surrounding transfers disappears for a while. Lallana, Shaw and even Lambert will realise what it means to Saints fans to have three players in the England Squad for a world cup. The majority of players are emotional people that have a deep passion for the game. Unfortunately agents passion is for money and they have an unrivaled access to players. Sentiment is not weakness. I hope that for Adams sake that sentiment wins through. Jesus_02
  • Score: 3

9:56am Tue 10 Jun 14

george chivers says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
damoose wrote:
The 2013/14 season brings back memories of 96/97...Le Tissier Berkovic Ostenstad were ripping the opposition apart 6-3 v Manure etc...Souness had repaired his reputation with some exciting football down here and excellent new-signings that made immediate- impact,everything was looking up,all we needed was 2 or 3 more player`s to really challenge for the top... then Souness left ..Berkovic kicked up a fuss and was soon off to West Ham..the MoPo era and the Souness era are so similar it`s spooky.we must not make the same mistakes we made back then,and let them rip our squad apart...
Unfortunately damoose the lessons of the past are only retained by the fans. New owners, new directors, new managers, new coaches and new players mean there is no one at the club that is even aware of those facts.
If we are to have proper success then we need continuity at all levels of management and of course investment. Continuity brings stability and stability brings consistency. We lack that as a club and have done since the Lawrie Mac era, unless we regain it we are in for ongoing roller coaster ride. I fastened my seat belt some years ago.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]damoose[/bold] wrote: The 2013/14 season brings back memories of 96/97...Le Tissier Berkovic Ostenstad were ripping the opposition apart 6-3 v Manure etc...Souness had repaired his reputation with some exciting football down here and excellent new-signings that made immediate- impact,everything was looking up,all we needed was 2 or 3 more player`s to really challenge for the top... then Souness left ..Berkovic kicked up a fuss and was soon off to West Ham..the MoPo era and the Souness era are so similar it`s spooky.we must not make the same mistakes we made back then,and let them rip our squad apart...[/p][/quote]Unfortunately damoose the lessons of the past are only retained by the fans. New owners, new directors, new managers, new coaches and new players mean there is no one at the club that is even aware of those facts.[/p][/quote]If we are to have proper success then we need continuity at all levels of management and of course investment. Continuity brings stability and stability brings consistency. We lack that as a club and have done since the Lawrie Mac era, unless we regain it we are in for ongoing roller coaster ride. I fastened my seat belt some years ago. george chivers
  • Score: 3

10:10am Tue 10 Jun 14

echo1948 says...

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
The fact is ... ARSE-NIL destroy Players potential.

OX-C moved too early is his development taking a League One developing Saints Player (who used to get subbed with cramp) to high intensity football. Result OX-C is a fast burning - injury prone footballer (lots of bench time)

SAINTS FANS WARNED HIM about this before his move.

Walcott is the same - not reaching the heights that he could of - had he stayed.

ADAM - his football and well being will continue to improve by committing to SAINTS.
Quite agree.Look at other big names who moved too early.Michael Owen-burnt out by the time he was 27,Wayne Rooney going that way too.
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: The fact is ... ARSE-NIL destroy Players potential. OX-C moved too early is his development taking a League One developing Saints Player (who used to get subbed with cramp) to high intensity football. Result OX-C is a fast burning - injury prone footballer (lots of bench time) SAINTS FANS WARNED HIM about this before his move. Walcott is the same - not reaching the heights that he could of - had he stayed. ADAM - his football and well being will continue to improve by committing to SAINTS.[/p][/quote]Quite agree.Look at other big names who moved too early.Michael Owen-burnt out by the time he was 27,Wayne Rooney going that way too. echo1948
  • Score: 4

10:11am Tue 10 Jun 14

Positively4thStreet says...

george chivers wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
damoose wrote:
The 2013/14 season brings back memories of 96/97...Le Tissier Berkovic Ostenstad were ripping the opposition apart 6-3 v Manure etc...Souness had repaired his reputation with some exciting football down here and excellent new-signings that made immediate- impact,everything was looking up,all we needed was 2 or 3 more player`s to really challenge for the top... then Souness left ..Berkovic kicked up a fuss and was soon off to West Ham..the MoPo era and the Souness era are so similar it`s spooky.we must not make the same mistakes we made back then,and let them rip our squad apart...
Unfortunately damoose the lessons of the past are only retained by the fans. New owners, new directors, new managers, new coaches and new players mean there is no one at the club that is even aware of those facts.
If we are to have proper success then we need continuity at all levels of management and of course investment. Continuity brings stability and stability brings consistency. We lack that as a club and have done since the Lawrie Mac era, unless we regain it we are in for ongoing roller coaster ride. I fastened my seat belt some years ago.
If STU's inside information is correct,and the plan of the current board is just stabilising and avoiding relegation for two years before a sell off,then that might not be as bad as it first appears,as it would give Nicola time to get a consortium together(if he isn't already),and mount a takeover...which would be nice!
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]damoose[/bold] wrote: The 2013/14 season brings back memories of 96/97...Le Tissier Berkovic Ostenstad were ripping the opposition apart 6-3 v Manure etc...Souness had repaired his reputation with some exciting football down here and excellent new-signings that made immediate- impact,everything was looking up,all we needed was 2 or 3 more player`s to really challenge for the top... then Souness left ..Berkovic kicked up a fuss and was soon off to West Ham..the MoPo era and the Souness era are so similar it`s spooky.we must not make the same mistakes we made back then,and let them rip our squad apart...[/p][/quote]Unfortunately damoose the lessons of the past are only retained by the fans. New owners, new directors, new managers, new coaches and new players mean there is no one at the club that is even aware of those facts.[/p][/quote]If we are to have proper success then we need continuity at all levels of management and of course investment. Continuity brings stability and stability brings consistency. We lack that as a club and have done since the Lawrie Mac era, unless we regain it we are in for ongoing roller coaster ride. I fastened my seat belt some years ago.[/p][/quote]If STU's inside information is correct,and the plan of the current board is just stabilising and avoiding relegation for two years before a sell off,then that might not be as bad as it first appears,as it would give Nicola time to get a consortium together(if he isn't already),and mount a takeover...which would be nice! Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 3

10:17am Tue 10 Jun 14

Saddogitte says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
damoose wrote: The 2013/14 season brings back memories of 96/97...Le Tissier Berkovic Ostenstad were ripping the opposition apart 6-3 v Manure etc...Souness had repaired his reputation with some exciting football down here and excellent new-signings that made immediate- impact,everything was looking up,all we needed was 2 or 3 more player`s to really challenge for the top... then Souness left ..Berkovic kicked up a fuss and was soon off to West Ham..the MoPo era and the Souness era are so similar it`s spooky.we must not make the same mistakes we made back then,and let them rip our squad apart...
Unfortunately damoose the lessons of the past are only retained by the fans. New owners, new directors, new managers, new coaches and new players mean there is no one at the club that is even aware of those facts.
If we are to have proper success then we need continuity at all levels of management and of course investment. Continuity brings stability and stability brings consistency. We lack that as a club and have done since the Lawrie Mac era, unless we regain it we are in for ongoing roller coaster ride. I fastened my seat belt some years ago.
If STU's inside information is correct,and the plan of the current board is just stabilising and avoiding relegation for two years before a sell off,then that might not be as bad as it first appears,as it would give Nicola time to get a consortium together(if he isn't already),and mount a takeover...which would be nice!
If you were going to sell wouldnt you do it now whilst you still have a lot of quality players (assets) at the club? As for Cortese coming back. Thanks but no thanks.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]damoose[/bold] wrote: The 2013/14 season brings back memories of 96/97...Le Tissier Berkovic Ostenstad were ripping the opposition apart 6-3 v Manure etc...Souness had repaired his reputation with some exciting football down here and excellent new-signings that made immediate- impact,everything was looking up,all we needed was 2 or 3 more player`s to really challenge for the top... then Souness left ..Berkovic kicked up a fuss and was soon off to West Ham..the MoPo era and the Souness era are so similar it`s spooky.we must not make the same mistakes we made back then,and let them rip our squad apart...[/p][/quote]Unfortunately damoose the lessons of the past are only retained by the fans. New owners, new directors, new managers, new coaches and new players mean there is no one at the club that is even aware of those facts.[/p][/quote]If we are to have proper success then we need continuity at all levels of management and of course investment. Continuity brings stability and stability brings consistency. We lack that as a club and have done since the Lawrie Mac era, unless we regain it we are in for ongoing roller coaster ride. I fastened my seat belt some years ago.[/p][/quote]If STU's inside information is correct,and the plan of the current board is just stabilising and avoiding relegation for two years before a sell off,then that might not be as bad as it first appears,as it would give Nicola time to get a consortium together(if he isn't already),and mount a takeover...which would be nice![/p][/quote]If you were going to sell wouldnt you do it now whilst you still have a lot of quality players (assets) at the club? As for Cortese coming back. Thanks but no thanks. Saddogitte
  • Score: 3

10:23am Tue 10 Jun 14

Jesus_02 says...

Saddogitte wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
damoose wrote: The 2013/14 season brings back memories of 96/97...Le Tissier Berkovic Ostenstad were ripping the opposition apart 6-3 v Manure etc...Souness had repaired his reputation with some exciting football down here and excellent new-signings that made immediate- impact,everything was looking up,all we needed was 2 or 3 more player`s to really challenge for the top... then Souness left ..Berkovic kicked up a fuss and was soon off to West Ham..the MoPo era and the Souness era are so similar it`s spooky.we must not make the same mistakes we made back then,and let them rip our squad apart...
Unfortunately damoose the lessons of the past are only retained by the fans. New owners, new directors, new managers, new coaches and new players mean there is no one at the club that is even aware of those facts.
If we are to have proper success then we need continuity at all levels of management and of course investment. Continuity brings stability and stability brings consistency. We lack that as a club and have done since the Lawrie Mac era, unless we regain it we are in for ongoing roller coaster ride. I fastened my seat belt some years ago.
If STU's inside information is correct,and the plan of the current board is just stabilising and avoiding relegation for two years before a sell off,then that might not be as bad as it first appears,as it would give Nicola time to get a consortium together(if he isn't already),and mount a takeover...which would be nice!
If you were going to sell wouldnt you do it now whilst you still have a lot of quality players (assets) at the club? As for Cortese coming back. Thanks but no thanks.
Cortese wouldnt come back, and if he did he wouldnt get a consortium together anyway. His operation was built on Lean principles. Why anyone harbours a grudge to the guy is beyond me. Its a pointless as having a grudge against Kruger.
[quote][p][bold]Saddogitte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]damoose[/bold] wrote: The 2013/14 season brings back memories of 96/97...Le Tissier Berkovic Ostenstad were ripping the opposition apart 6-3 v Manure etc...Souness had repaired his reputation with some exciting football down here and excellent new-signings that made immediate- impact,everything was looking up,all we needed was 2 or 3 more player`s to really challenge for the top... then Souness left ..Berkovic kicked up a fuss and was soon off to West Ham..the MoPo era and the Souness era are so similar it`s spooky.we must not make the same mistakes we made back then,and let them rip our squad apart...[/p][/quote]Unfortunately damoose the lessons of the past are only retained by the fans. New owners, new directors, new managers, new coaches and new players mean there is no one at the club that is even aware of those facts.[/p][/quote]If we are to have proper success then we need continuity at all levels of management and of course investment. Continuity brings stability and stability brings consistency. We lack that as a club and have done since the Lawrie Mac era, unless we regain it we are in for ongoing roller coaster ride. I fastened my seat belt some years ago.[/p][/quote]If STU's inside information is correct,and the plan of the current board is just stabilising and avoiding relegation for two years before a sell off,then that might not be as bad as it first appears,as it would give Nicola time to get a consortium together(if he isn't already),and mount a takeover...which would be nice![/p][/quote]If you were going to sell wouldnt you do it now whilst you still have a lot of quality players (assets) at the club? As for Cortese coming back. Thanks but no thanks.[/p][/quote]Cortese wouldnt come back, and if he did he wouldnt get a consortium together anyway. His operation was built on Lean principles. Why anyone harbours a grudge to the guy is beyond me. Its a pointless as having a grudge against Kruger. Jesus_02
  • Score: 6

10:24am Tue 10 Jun 14

Confucious says...

Blast - I missed the bit where Adam said he and Rickie and Luke were well aware that this World Cup is also very special for the thousands of Saints fans who suffered the slump to League 1 and who supported the team back to the Prem (including two seasons at those gruesome midweek venues) - and that those fans were absolutely top of mind as their own World Cup dreams come true and that they were taking special care to do their best for them. I'd have especially enjoyed the bit where he said they are all doing "everything possible" to ensure those Saints fans are "able to fully enjoy the pride and joy of seeing their stars play for their country." I also would have loved to see the bit where he said "Of course me, Rickie and Luke are all headed for multi-millionairedom
, but we haven't forgotten those hard-grafting and in many cases hard-up fans who cough up for their tickets and for whom Saints success means such a lot in their otherwise humdrum lives."

My missus saw the interview and told me all about it this morning.

"There" she said "Now cheer up you miserable git. You've had the right 'ump for the past few weeks despite telling us all you were really looking forward to this World Cup. And there's Adam, Rickie and Luke, who you've been moaning about, over there in the blinding heat and working their whatsits off for you and your mates."

Must admit I do feel a bit guilty now, but hey ho, come on you Saints!
Blast - I missed the bit where Adam said he and Rickie and Luke were well aware that this World Cup is also very special for the thousands of Saints fans who suffered the slump to League 1 and who supported the team back to the Prem (including two seasons at those gruesome midweek venues) - and that those fans were absolutely top of mind as their own World Cup dreams come true and that they were taking special care to do their best for them. I'd have especially enjoyed the bit where he said they are all doing "everything possible" to ensure those Saints fans are "able to fully enjoy the pride and joy of seeing their stars play for their country." I also would have loved to see the bit where he said "Of course me, Rickie and Luke are all headed for multi-millionairedom , but we haven't forgotten those hard-grafting and in many cases hard-up fans who cough up for their tickets and for whom Saints success means such a lot in their otherwise humdrum lives." My missus saw the interview and told me all about it this morning. "There" she said "Now cheer up you miserable git. You've had the right 'ump for the past few weeks despite telling us all you were really looking forward to this World Cup. And there's Adam, Rickie and Luke, who you've been moaning about, over there in the blinding heat and working their whatsits off for you and your mates." Must admit I do feel a bit guilty now, but hey ho, come on you Saints! Confucious
  • Score: 27

10:38am Tue 10 Jun 14

Saddogitte says...

Jesus_02 wrote:
Saddogitte wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
damoose wrote: The 2013/14 season brings back memories of 96/97...Le Tissier Berkovic Ostenstad were ripping the opposition apart 6-3 v Manure etc...Souness had repaired his reputation with some exciting football down here and excellent new-signings that made immediate- impact,everything was looking up,all we needed was 2 or 3 more player`s to really challenge for the top... then Souness left ..Berkovic kicked up a fuss and was soon off to West Ham..the MoPo era and the Souness era are so similar it`s spooky.we must not make the same mistakes we made back then,and let them rip our squad apart...
Unfortunately damoose the lessons of the past are only retained by the fans. New owners, new directors, new managers, new coaches and new players mean there is no one at the club that is even aware of those facts.
If we are to have proper success then we need continuity at all levels of management and of course investment. Continuity brings stability and stability brings consistency. We lack that as a club and have done since the Lawrie Mac era, unless we regain it we are in for ongoing roller coaster ride. I fastened my seat belt some years ago.
If STU's inside information is correct,and the plan of the current board is just stabilising and avoiding relegation for two years before a sell off,then that might not be as bad as it first appears,as it would give Nicola time to get a consortium together(if he isn't already),and mount a takeover...which would be nice!
If you were going to sell wouldnt you do it now whilst you still have a lot of quality players (assets) at the club? As for Cortese coming back. Thanks but no thanks.
Cortese wouldnt come back, and if he did he wouldnt get a consortium together anyway. His operation was built on Lean principles. Why anyone harbours a grudge to the guy is beyond me. Its a pointless as having a grudge against Kruger.
Dont hold a grudge just dont want him back here.
[quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saddogitte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]damoose[/bold] wrote: The 2013/14 season brings back memories of 96/97...Le Tissier Berkovic Ostenstad were ripping the opposition apart 6-3 v Manure etc...Souness had repaired his reputation with some exciting football down here and excellent new-signings that made immediate- impact,everything was looking up,all we needed was 2 or 3 more player`s to really challenge for the top... then Souness left ..Berkovic kicked up a fuss and was soon off to West Ham..the MoPo era and the Souness era are so similar it`s spooky.we must not make the same mistakes we made back then,and let them rip our squad apart...[/p][/quote]Unfortunately damoose the lessons of the past are only retained by the fans. New owners, new directors, new managers, new coaches and new players mean there is no one at the club that is even aware of those facts.[/p][/quote]If we are to have proper success then we need continuity at all levels of management and of course investment. Continuity brings stability and stability brings consistency. We lack that as a club and have done since the Lawrie Mac era, unless we regain it we are in for ongoing roller coaster ride. I fastened my seat belt some years ago.[/p][/quote]If STU's inside information is correct,and the plan of the current board is just stabilising and avoiding relegation for two years before a sell off,then that might not be as bad as it first appears,as it would give Nicola time to get a consortium together(if he isn't already),and mount a takeover...which would be nice![/p][/quote]If you were going to sell wouldnt you do it now whilst you still have a lot of quality players (assets) at the club? As for Cortese coming back. Thanks but no thanks.[/p][/quote]Cortese wouldnt come back, and if he did he wouldnt get a consortium together anyway. His operation was built on Lean principles. Why anyone harbours a grudge to the guy is beyond me. Its a pointless as having a grudge against Kruger.[/p][/quote]Dont hold a grudge just dont want him back here. Saddogitte
  • Score: 2

10:44am Tue 10 Jun 14

Muttdogg says...

Looking forward to singing 'we are Southampton, we won the world cup!'
Looking forward to singing 'we are Southampton, we won the world cup!' Muttdogg
  • Score: 6

11:17am Tue 10 Jun 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Jesus_02 wrote:
Saddogitte wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
damoose wrote: The 2013/14 season brings back memories of 96/97...Le Tissier Berkovic Ostenstad were ripping the opposition apart 6-3 v Manure etc...Souness had repaired his reputation with some exciting football down here and excellent new-signings that made immediate- impact,everything was looking up,all we needed was 2 or 3 more player`s to really challenge for the top... then Souness left ..Berkovic kicked up a fuss and was soon off to West Ham..the MoPo era and the Souness era are so similar it`s spooky.we must not make the same mistakes we made back then,and let them rip our squad apart...
Unfortunately damoose the lessons of the past are only retained by the fans. New owners, new directors, new managers, new coaches and new players mean there is no one at the club that is even aware of those facts.
If we are to have proper success then we need continuity at all levels of management and of course investment. Continuity brings stability and stability brings consistency. We lack that as a club and have done since the Lawrie Mac era, unless we regain it we are in for ongoing roller coaster ride. I fastened my seat belt some years ago.
If STU's inside information is correct,and the plan of the current board is just stabilising and avoiding relegation for two years before a sell off,then that might not be as bad as it first appears,as it would give Nicola time to get a consortium together(if he isn't already),and mount a takeover...which would be nice!
If you were going to sell wouldnt you do it now whilst you still have a lot of quality players (assets) at the club? As for Cortese coming back. Thanks but no thanks.
Cortese wouldnt come back, and if he did he wouldnt get a consortium together anyway. His operation was built on Lean principles. Why anyone harbours a grudge to the guy is beyond me. Its a pointless as having a grudge against Kruger.
Cortese's record speaks for itself. Kreuger's will as well in the future - for all our sakes let's hope he matches Cortese's.
[quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saddogitte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]damoose[/bold] wrote: The 2013/14 season brings back memories of 96/97...Le Tissier Berkovic Ostenstad were ripping the opposition apart 6-3 v Manure etc...Souness had repaired his reputation with some exciting football down here and excellent new-signings that made immediate- impact,everything was looking up,all we needed was 2 or 3 more player`s to really challenge for the top... then Souness left ..Berkovic kicked up a fuss and was soon off to West Ham..the MoPo era and the Souness era are so similar it`s spooky.we must not make the same mistakes we made back then,and let them rip our squad apart...[/p][/quote]Unfortunately damoose the lessons of the past are only retained by the fans. New owners, new directors, new managers, new coaches and new players mean there is no one at the club that is even aware of those facts.[/p][/quote]If we are to have proper success then we need continuity at all levels of management and of course investment. Continuity brings stability and stability brings consistency. We lack that as a club and have done since the Lawrie Mac era, unless we regain it we are in for ongoing roller coaster ride. I fastened my seat belt some years ago.[/p][/quote]If STU's inside information is correct,and the plan of the current board is just stabilising and avoiding relegation for two years before a sell off,then that might not be as bad as it first appears,as it would give Nicola time to get a consortium together(if he isn't already),and mount a takeover...which would be nice![/p][/quote]If you were going to sell wouldnt you do it now whilst you still have a lot of quality players (assets) at the club? As for Cortese coming back. Thanks but no thanks.[/p][/quote]Cortese wouldnt come back, and if he did he wouldnt get a consortium together anyway. His operation was built on Lean principles. Why anyone harbours a grudge to the guy is beyond me. Its a pointless as having a grudge against Kruger.[/p][/quote]Cortese's record speaks for itself. Kreuger's will as well in the future - for all our sakes let's hope he matches Cortese's. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 2

11:22am Tue 10 Jun 14

worried of n e hampshire says...

when is the new Manager going to be announced???
when is the new Manager going to be announced??? worried of n e hampshire
  • Score: 3

11:25am Tue 10 Jun 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

worried of n e hampshire wrote:
when is the new Manager going to be announced???
I believe they are hoping for the end of this week according to some articles. I think a quick appointment would have been good had they had a Plan B in place incase MoPo buggered off. Obviously they didn't. So now they might as well take their time and get it right.
[quote][p][bold]worried of n e hampshire[/bold] wrote: when is the new Manager going to be announced???[/p][/quote]I believe they are hoping for the end of this week according to some articles. I think a quick appointment would have been good had they had a Plan B in place incase MoPo buggered off. Obviously they didn't. So now they might as well take their time and get it right. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 5

11:38am Tue 10 Jun 14

Saddogitte says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Jesus_02 wrote:
Saddogitte wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
damoose wrote: The 2013/14 season brings back memories of 96/97...Le Tissier Berkovic Ostenstad were ripping the opposition apart 6-3 v Manure etc...Souness had repaired his reputation with some exciting football down here and excellent new-signings that made immediate- impact,everything was looking up,all we needed was 2 or 3 more player`s to really challenge for the top... then Souness left ..Berkovic kicked up a fuss and was soon off to West Ham..the MoPo era and the Souness era are so similar it`s spooky.we must not make the same mistakes we made back then,and let them rip our squad apart...
Unfortunately damoose the lessons of the past are only retained by the fans. New owners, new directors, new managers, new coaches and new players mean there is no one at the club that is even aware of those facts.
If we are to have proper success then we need continuity at all levels of management and of course investment. Continuity brings stability and stability brings consistency. We lack that as a club and have done since the Lawrie Mac era, unless we regain it we are in for ongoing roller coaster ride. I fastened my seat belt some years ago.
If STU's inside information is correct,and the plan of the current board is just stabilising and avoiding relegation for two years before a sell off,then that might not be as bad as it first appears,as it would give Nicola time to get a consortium together(if he isn't already),and mount a takeover...which would be nice!
If you were going to sell wouldnt you do it now whilst you still have a lot of quality players (assets) at the club? As for Cortese coming back. Thanks but no thanks.
Cortese wouldnt come back, and if he did he wouldnt get a consortium together anyway. His operation was built on Lean principles. Why anyone harbours a grudge to the guy is beyond me. Its a pointless as having a grudge against Kruger.
Cortese's record speaks for itself. Kreuger's will as well in the future - for all our sakes let's hope he matches Cortese's.
And if he can do it without hacking people off, treating employees with respect and without making us look like Liverpool, then so much the better.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saddogitte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]damoose[/bold] wrote: The 2013/14 season brings back memories of 96/97...Le Tissier Berkovic Ostenstad were ripping the opposition apart 6-3 v Manure etc...Souness had repaired his reputation with some exciting football down here and excellent new-signings that made immediate- impact,everything was looking up,all we needed was 2 or 3 more player`s to really challenge for the top... then Souness left ..Berkovic kicked up a fuss and was soon off to West Ham..the MoPo era and the Souness era are so similar it`s spooky.we must not make the same mistakes we made back then,and let them rip our squad apart...[/p][/quote]Unfortunately damoose the lessons of the past are only retained by the fans. New owners, new directors, new managers, new coaches and new players mean there is no one at the club that is even aware of those facts.[/p][/quote]If we are to have proper success then we need continuity at all levels of management and of course investment. Continuity brings stability and stability brings consistency. We lack that as a club and have done since the Lawrie Mac era, unless we regain it we are in for ongoing roller coaster ride. I fastened my seat belt some years ago.[/p][/quote]If STU's inside information is correct,and the plan of the current board is just stabilising and avoiding relegation for two years before a sell off,then that might not be as bad as it first appears,as it would give Nicola time to get a consortium together(if he isn't already),and mount a takeover...which would be nice![/p][/quote]If you were going to sell wouldnt you do it now whilst you still have a lot of quality players (assets) at the club? As for Cortese coming back. Thanks but no thanks.[/p][/quote]Cortese wouldnt come back, and if he did he wouldnt get a consortium together anyway. His operation was built on Lean principles. Why anyone harbours a grudge to the guy is beyond me. Its a pointless as having a grudge against Kruger.[/p][/quote]Cortese's record speaks for itself. Kreuger's will as well in the future - for all our sakes let's hope he matches Cortese's.[/p][/quote]And if he can do it without hacking people off, treating employees with respect and without making us look like Liverpool, then so much the better. Saddogitte
  • Score: 2

11:55am Tue 10 Jun 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Saddogitte wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Jesus_02 wrote:
Saddogitte wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
damoose wrote: The 2013/14 season brings back memories of 96/97...Le Tissier Berkovic Ostenstad were ripping the opposition apart 6-3 v Manure etc...Souness had repaired his reputation with some exciting football down here and excellent new-signings that made immediate- impact,everything was looking up,all we needed was 2 or 3 more player`s to really challenge for the top... then Souness left ..Berkovic kicked up a fuss and was soon off to West Ham..the MoPo era and the Souness era are so similar it`s spooky.we must not make the same mistakes we made back then,and let them rip our squad apart...
Unfortunately damoose the lessons of the past are only retained by the fans. New owners, new directors, new managers, new coaches and new players mean there is no one at the club that is even aware of those facts.
If we are to have proper success then we need continuity at all levels of management and of course investment. Continuity brings stability and stability brings consistency. We lack that as a club and have done since the Lawrie Mac era, unless we regain it we are in for ongoing roller coaster ride. I fastened my seat belt some years ago.
If STU's inside information is correct,and the plan of the current board is just stabilising and avoiding relegation for two years before a sell off,then that might not be as bad as it first appears,as it would give Nicola time to get a consortium together(if he isn't already),and mount a takeover...which would be nice!
If you were going to sell wouldnt you do it now whilst you still have a lot of quality players (assets) at the club? As for Cortese coming back. Thanks but no thanks.
Cortese wouldnt come back, and if he did he wouldnt get a consortium together anyway. His operation was built on Lean principles. Why anyone harbours a grudge to the guy is beyond me. Its a pointless as having a grudge against Kruger.
Cortese's record speaks for itself. Kreuger's will as well in the future - for all our sakes let's hope he matches Cortese's.
And if he can do it without hacking people off, treating employees with respect and without making us look like Liverpool, then so much the better.
Agreed. But I'd take success above those attributes.
[quote][p][bold]Saddogitte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saddogitte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]damoose[/bold] wrote: The 2013/14 season brings back memories of 96/97...Le Tissier Berkovic Ostenstad were ripping the opposition apart 6-3 v Manure etc...Souness had repaired his reputation with some exciting football down here and excellent new-signings that made immediate- impact,everything was looking up,all we needed was 2 or 3 more player`s to really challenge for the top... then Souness left ..Berkovic kicked up a fuss and was soon off to West Ham..the MoPo era and the Souness era are so similar it`s spooky.we must not make the same mistakes we made back then,and let them rip our squad apart...[/p][/quote]Unfortunately damoose the lessons of the past are only retained by the fans. New owners, new directors, new managers, new coaches and new players mean there is no one at the club that is even aware of those facts.[/p][/quote]If we are to have proper success then we need continuity at all levels of management and of course investment. Continuity brings stability and stability brings consistency. We lack that as a club and have done since the Lawrie Mac era, unless we regain it we are in for ongoing roller coaster ride. I fastened my seat belt some years ago.[/p][/quote]If STU's inside information is correct,and the plan of the current board is just stabilising and avoiding relegation for two years before a sell off,then that might not be as bad as it first appears,as it would give Nicola time to get a consortium together(if he isn't already),and mount a takeover...which would be nice![/p][/quote]If you were going to sell wouldnt you do it now whilst you still have a lot of quality players (assets) at the club? As for Cortese coming back. Thanks but no thanks.[/p][/quote]Cortese wouldnt come back, and if he did he wouldnt get a consortium together anyway. His operation was built on Lean principles. Why anyone harbours a grudge to the guy is beyond me. Its a pointless as having a grudge against Kruger.[/p][/quote]Cortese's record speaks for itself. Kreuger's will as well in the future - for all our sakes let's hope he matches Cortese's.[/p][/quote]And if he can do it without hacking people off, treating employees with respect and without making us look like Liverpool, then so much the better.[/p][/quote]Agreed. But I'd take success above those attributes. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 3

11:57am Tue 10 Jun 14

F Fan says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
worried of n e hampshire wrote:
when is the new Manager going to be announced???
I believe they are hoping for the end of this week according to some articles. I think a quick appointment would have been good had they had a Plan B in place incase MoPo buggered off. Obviously they didn't. So now they might as well take their time and get it right.
Agree with that.

But if they had a manager lined up ready for MP going, lots on here would be moaning about the Board not trying to keep him/forcing him out/ proof that we had no ambition etc. Remember the outrage because Cortese had MP lined up ready for taking over from Nigel.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]worried of n e hampshire[/bold] wrote: when is the new Manager going to be announced???[/p][/quote]I believe they are hoping for the end of this week according to some articles. I think a quick appointment would have been good had they had a Plan B in place incase MoPo buggered off. Obviously they didn't. So now they might as well take their time and get it right.[/p][/quote]Agree with that. But if they had a manager lined up ready for MP going, lots on here would be moaning about the Board not trying to keep him/forcing him out/ proof that we had no ambition etc. Remember the outrage because Cortese had MP lined up ready for taking over from Nigel. F Fan
  • Score: 4

12:00pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Jonny Maths says...

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
The fact is ... ARSE-NIL destroy Players potential.

OX-C moved too early is his development taking a League One developing Saints Player (who used to get subbed with cramp) to high intensity football. Result OX-C is a fast burning - injury prone footballer (lots of bench time)

SAINTS FANS WARNED HIM about this before his move.

Walcott is the same - not reaching the heights that he could of - had he stayed.

ADAM - his football and well being will continue to improve by committing to SAINTS.
spot on.
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: The fact is ... ARSE-NIL destroy Players potential. OX-C moved too early is his development taking a League One developing Saints Player (who used to get subbed with cramp) to high intensity football. Result OX-C is a fast burning - injury prone footballer (lots of bench time) SAINTS FANS WARNED HIM about this before his move. Walcott is the same - not reaching the heights that he could of - had he stayed. ADAM - his football and well being will continue to improve by committing to SAINTS.[/p][/quote]spot on. Jonny Maths
  • Score: 1

12:02pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Saint Dennis says...

pitbull wrote:
Including Rickie, we have 7 players in Brazil, which is one more than the Spuds.
We should have had 9 in the World Cup as I think Clyne should have been taken and not forgetting Jay of course.
Yes, and yet the Spuds finished with how many more points than us! Must have had a better manager I guess.
[quote][p][bold]pitbull[/bold] wrote: Including Rickie, we have 7 players in Brazil, which is one more than the Spuds. We should have had 9 in the World Cup as I think Clyne should have been taken and not forgetting Jay of course.[/p][/quote]Yes, and yet the Spuds finished with how many more points than us! Must have had a better manager I guess. Saint Dennis
  • Score: 4

12:24pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Invidia says...

Reading this tread it reads as if the DE has had an exclusive interview with AL surely not, hey wait a minute ITV has exactly the same story only in a bit more depth. That aside it reads that maybe AL is trying to mend fences with Saints now that Liverpool has cooled in their attempt to sign him. As for LS most of the hacks reckon that it is a done deal and he is in for about £6,000000 a year salary, there are a couple of hacks suggesting that Van Gaal is looking else where for a left back as LS is a rather expensive option, who knows the merry-go-round continues to go round. the more I read the more I am convinced that the media know nothing and are just playing out the days until the WC begins
Reading this tread it reads as if the DE has had an exclusive interview with AL surely not, hey wait a minute ITV has exactly the same story only in a bit more depth. That aside it reads that maybe AL is trying to mend fences with Saints now that Liverpool has cooled in their attempt to sign him. As for LS most of the hacks reckon that it is a done deal and he is in for about £6,000000 a year salary, there are a couple of hacks suggesting that Van Gaal is looking else where for a left back as LS is a rather expensive option, who knows the merry-go-round continues to go round. the more I read the more I am convinced that the media know nothing and are just playing out the days until the WC begins Invidia
  • Score: 4

12:24pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Beer Monster says...

F Fan wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
worried of n e hampshire wrote:
when is the new Manager going to be announced???
I believe they are hoping for the end of this week according to some articles. I think a quick appointment would have been good had they had a Plan B in place incase MoPo buggered off. Obviously they didn't. So now they might as well take their time and get it right.
Agree with that.

But if they had a manager lined up ready for MP going, lots on here would be moaning about the Board not trying to keep him/forcing him out/ proof that we had no ambition etc. Remember the outrage because Cortese had MP lined up ready for taking over from Nigel.
Totally - some people are just never happy. Seed has hit the nail, as a club the most important thing we need is a manager who will bring stability to the players and tell the press to bog off (wonder if WGS would consider a return?). We have an opportunity, as we did 10 years ago, to grab that foothold that we have on the top half of the prem, and make it our home for some time to come.

In other news, here's a nice reflection of skuntish hospitality;
http://www.dailyreco
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[quote][p][bold]F Fan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]worried of n e hampshire[/bold] wrote: when is the new Manager going to be announced???[/p][/quote]I believe they are hoping for the end of this week according to some articles. I think a quick appointment would have been good had they had a Plan B in place incase MoPo buggered off. Obviously they didn't. So now they might as well take their time and get it right.[/p][/quote]Agree with that. But if they had a manager lined up ready for MP going, lots on here would be moaning about the Board not trying to keep him/forcing him out/ proof that we had no ambition etc. Remember the outrage because Cortese had MP lined up ready for taking over from Nigel.[/p][/quote]Totally - some people are just never happy. Seed has hit the nail, as a club the most important thing we need is a manager who will bring stability to the players and tell the press to bog off (wonder if WGS would consider a return?). We have an opportunity, as we did 10 years ago, to grab that foothold that we have on the top half of the prem, and make it our home for some time to come. In other news, here's a nice reflection of skuntish hospitality; http://www.dailyreco rd.co.uk/sport/footb all/football-transfe r-news/dundee-new-bo y-simon-ferry-366881 6 Beer Monster
  • Score: 1

12:38pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Saddogitte wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Jesus_02 wrote:
Saddogitte wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
damoose wrote: The 2013/14 season brings back memories of 96/97...Le Tissier Berkovic Ostenstad were ripping the opposition apart 6-3 v Manure etc...Souness had repaired his reputation with some exciting football down here and excellent new-signings that made immediate- impact,everything was looking up,all we needed was 2 or 3 more player`s to really challenge for the top... then Souness left ..Berkovic kicked up a fuss and was soon off to West Ham..the MoPo era and the Souness era are so similar it`s spooky.we must not make the same mistakes we made back then,and let them rip our squad apart...
Unfortunately damoose the lessons of the past are only retained by the fans. New owners, new directors, new managers, new coaches and new players mean there is no one at the club that is even aware of those facts.
If we are to have proper success then we need continuity at all levels of management and of course investment. Continuity brings stability and stability brings consistency. We lack that as a club and have done since the Lawrie Mac era, unless we regain it we are in for ongoing roller coaster ride. I fastened my seat belt some years ago.
If STU's inside information is correct,and the plan of the current board is just stabilising and avoiding relegation for two years before a sell off,then that might not be as bad as it first appears,as it would give Nicola time to get a consortium together(if he isn't already),and mount a takeover...which would be nice!
If you were going to sell wouldnt you do it now whilst you still have a lot of quality players (assets) at the club? As for Cortese coming back. Thanks but no thanks.
Cortese wouldnt come back, and if he did he wouldnt get a consortium together anyway. His operation was built on Lean principles. Why anyone harbours a grudge to the guy is beyond me. Its a pointless as having a grudge against Kruger.
Cortese's record speaks for itself. Kreuger's will as well in the future - for all our sakes let's hope he matches Cortese's.
And if he can do it without hacking people off, treating employees with respect and without making us look like Liverpool, then so much the better.
Agreed. But I'd take success above those attributes.
Cortese knew what he had achieved here,and also what he was on the brink of,because it was in touching distance.Whether it is now or not,is in Krueger's hands now,and he will stand or fall by what happens in the next 12 months.
I hope he succeeds, because what has been achieved up to now,doesn't deserve to be just thrown away.
Personally,I still can't believe Cortese could just walk away from that achievement,without a sense of frustration at what could have been,but in the end wasnt,ultimately achieved under his command.
I'm still not 100% convinced that we've seen the last of him.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saddogitte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saddogitte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]damoose[/bold] wrote: The 2013/14 season brings back memories of 96/97...Le Tissier Berkovic Ostenstad were ripping the opposition apart 6-3 v Manure etc...Souness had repaired his reputation with some exciting football down here and excellent new-signings that made immediate- impact,everything was looking up,all we needed was 2 or 3 more player`s to really challenge for the top... then Souness left ..Berkovic kicked up a fuss and was soon off to West Ham..the MoPo era and the Souness era are so similar it`s spooky.we must not make the same mistakes we made back then,and let them rip our squad apart...[/p][/quote]Unfortunately damoose the lessons of the past are only retained by the fans. New owners, new directors, new managers, new coaches and new players mean there is no one at the club that is even aware of those facts.[/p][/quote]If we are to have proper success then we need continuity at all levels of management and of course investment. Continuity brings stability and stability brings consistency. We lack that as a club and have done since the Lawrie Mac era, unless we regain it we are in for ongoing roller coaster ride. I fastened my seat belt some years ago.[/p][/quote]If STU's inside information is correct,and the plan of the current board is just stabilising and avoiding relegation for two years before a sell off,then that might not be as bad as it first appears,as it would give Nicola time to get a consortium together(if he isn't already),and mount a takeover...which would be nice![/p][/quote]If you were going to sell wouldnt you do it now whilst you still have a lot of quality players (assets) at the club? As for Cortese coming back. Thanks but no thanks.[/p][/quote]Cortese wouldnt come back, and if he did he wouldnt get a consortium together anyway. His operation was built on Lean principles. Why anyone harbours a grudge to the guy is beyond me. Its a pointless as having a grudge against Kruger.[/p][/quote]Cortese's record speaks for itself. Kreuger's will as well in the future - for all our sakes let's hope he matches Cortese's.[/p][/quote]And if he can do it without hacking people off, treating employees with respect and without making us look like Liverpool, then so much the better.[/p][/quote]Agreed. But I'd take success above those attributes.[/p][/quote]Cortese knew what he had achieved here,and also what he was on the brink of,because it was in touching distance.Whether it is now or not,is in Krueger's hands now,and he will stand or fall by what happens in the next 12 months. I hope he succeeds, because what has been achieved up to now,doesn't deserve to be just thrown away. Personally,I still can't believe Cortese could just walk away from that achievement,without a sense of frustration at what could have been,but in the end wasnt,ultimately achieved under his command. I'm still not 100% convinced that we've seen the last of him. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 3

12:41pm Tue 10 Jun 14

durhamsaint87 says...

It strikes me Adam is pulling back on the ropes about wanting to leave. I wonder if the news out of manure is not to his liking and he now see's his 5 year contract with the team that helped him get to where he is. Sometimes players need a reality check and when you see what has happened to our other so called starlets those who jumped ship when the going got tough these are not doing so good. Whatever happens lets hope our players do well in the next four weeks and Saints go on to win the world cup. (Including Ricky who will always be a saints player).
It strikes me Adam is pulling back on the ropes about wanting to leave. I wonder if the news out of manure is not to his liking and he now see's his 5 year contract with the team that helped him get to where he is. Sometimes players need a reality check and when you see what has happened to our other so called starlets those who jumped ship when the going got tough these are not doing so good. Whatever happens lets hope our players do well in the next four weeks and Saints go on to win the world cup. (Including Ricky who will always be a saints player). durhamsaint87
  • Score: 7

1:13pm Tue 10 Jun 14

boilerman says...

andoru wrote:
Don't know about the rest of you, but I'm definitely still claiming Ricky Lambert. He's not a Liverpool player until he's played for them. I mean, he hasn't even had a training session up there yet! He's still a Saint to me. And so is Adam. I hope his pride in the club extends to honouring his contract and sticking with us.
The transfer window doesn't officially open until July 1st, so I reckon he still count's as one of our's.
[quote][p][bold]andoru[/bold] wrote: Don't know about the rest of you, but I'm definitely still claiming Ricky Lambert. He's not a Liverpool player until he's played for them. I mean, he hasn't even had a training session up there yet! He's still a Saint to me. And so is Adam. I hope his pride in the club extends to honouring his contract and sticking with us.[/p][/quote]The transfer window doesn't officially open until July 1st, so I reckon he still count's as one of our's. boilerman
  • Score: 1

1:25pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Chapperall says...

From what we are hearing in the papers it looks like all the Saints players will be subs for the Italy match. Still main thing is that we beat them otherwise the next matches are going to become even more important.
Interesting that Osvaldo can't get in the italian squad, any one know what the latest is with him and the Saints?
From what we are hearing in the papers it looks like all the Saints players will be subs for the Italy match. Still main thing is that we beat them otherwise the next matches are going to become even more important. Interesting that Osvaldo can't get in the italian squad, any one know what the latest is with him and the Saints? Chapperall
  • Score: 1

1:31pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Chrissymarsdenfootballgenius says...

Firstly this article does not really do what it says on the tin so was a bit of a red herring but I do see this as an attempt to rebuild what rapidly became a burnt bridge with the southampton faithful! Liverpool have already signed other options and saints were never going to accept their 'on the cheap' offer of add ons and false promises! AL may have realised that the grass that once appeared greener from a distance was actually full of dog fudge, broken bottles and used needles when he got a closer look! Point being southampton offer him much more stability, playing time, responsibility and support than our benefit street rivals in red from up north whilst still providing a platform for international call ups! As a true saints fan it would be hard to accept a u-turn decision from our captain but I for one would be willing to give him a chance in the first team if he proves this moment of flirting with the scivers was a dizzy headed mistake from a young man dealing with his rising fame! However I stand by my previous statements that if you don't want to wear red white then don't let the door hit you on the way out! Speaking of wearing red and white, when are we going to see the new shirt! Come on England and come on you reds, southampton til I die!
Firstly this article does not really do what it says on the tin so was a bit of a red herring but I do see this as an attempt to rebuild what rapidly became a burnt bridge with the southampton faithful! Liverpool have already signed other options and saints were never going to accept their 'on the cheap' offer of add ons and false promises! AL may have realised that the grass that once appeared greener from a distance was actually full of dog fudge, broken bottles and used needles when he got a closer look! Point being southampton offer him much more stability, playing time, responsibility and support than our benefit street rivals in red from up north whilst still providing a platform for international call ups! As a true saints fan it would be hard to accept a u-turn decision from our captain but I for one would be willing to give him a chance in the first team if he proves this moment of flirting with the scivers was a dizzy headed mistake from a young man dealing with his rising fame! However I stand by my previous statements that if you don't want to wear red white then don't let the door hit you on the way out! Speaking of wearing red and white, when are we going to see the new shirt! Come on England and come on you reds, southampton til I die! Chrissymarsdenfootballgenius
  • Score: 5

1:34pm Tue 10 Jun 14

jls217 says...

Saint Dennis wrote:
pitbull wrote:
Including Rickie, we have 7 players in Brazil, which is one more than the Spuds.
We should have had 9 in the World Cup as I think Clyne should have been taken and not forgetting Jay of course.
Yes, and yet the Spuds finished with how many more points than us! Must have had a better manager I guess.
Logic there can be no argument against mate.
[quote][p][bold]Saint Dennis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pitbull[/bold] wrote: Including Rickie, we have 7 players in Brazil, which is one more than the Spuds. We should have had 9 in the World Cup as I think Clyne should have been taken and not forgetting Jay of course.[/p][/quote]Yes, and yet the Spuds finished with how many more points than us! Must have had a better manager I guess.[/p][/quote]Logic there can be no argument against mate. jls217
  • Score: 0

1:48pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Dorssaints says...

Afternoon all, I think this is a sort of calming interview from Lallana, let uis not forget he has not come out and said that he wants to leave, only privatly.
.
Some fans have been really disrespectful about him, my only views are that he has not said that he wants to play for anyone else but clearly wanted Liverpool. If they say no, where else might he go and play (not sub)? Spurs, I don't thinks so, nor Manure nor Arsenal. Definitly not Man City. Can't see Chelsea so it appears to be Liverpool or bust?
Afternoon all, I think this is a sort of calming interview from Lallana, let uis not forget he has not come out and said that he wants to leave, only privatly. . Some fans have been really disrespectful about him, my only views are that he has not said that he wants to play for anyone else but clearly wanted Liverpool. If they say no, where else might he go and play (not sub)? Spurs, I don't thinks so, nor Manure nor Arsenal. Definitly not Man City. Can't see Chelsea so it appears to be Liverpool or bust? Dorssaints
  • Score: 1

1:52pm Tue 10 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Chapperall wrote:
From what we are hearing in the papers it looks like all the Saints players will be subs for the Italy match. Still main thing is that we beat them otherwise the next matches are going to become even more important.
Interesting that Osvaldo can't get in the italian squad, any one know what the latest is with him and the Saints?
Juventus want to continue the loan, not sure that would be of any benefit to us?
[quote][p][bold]Chapperall[/bold] wrote: From what we are hearing in the papers it looks like all the Saints players will be subs for the Italy match. Still main thing is that we beat them otherwise the next matches are going to become even more important. Interesting that Osvaldo can't get in the italian squad, any one know what the latest is with him and the Saints?[/p][/quote]Juventus want to continue the loan, not sure that would be of any benefit to us? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

2:00pm Tue 10 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Saint Dennis wrote:
pitbull wrote:
Including Rickie, we have 7 players in Brazil, which is one more than the Spuds.
We should have had 9 in the World Cup as I think Clyne should have been taken and not forgetting Jay of course.
Yes, and yet the Spuds finished with how many more points than us! Must have had a better manager I guess.
better managers? or better players perhaps?
[quote][p][bold]Saint Dennis[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]pitbull[/bold] wrote: Including Rickie, we have 7 players in Brazil, which is one more than the Spuds. We should have had 9 in the World Cup as I think Clyne should have been taken and not forgetting Jay of course.[/p][/quote]Yes, and yet the Spuds finished with how many more points than us! Must have had a better manager I guess.[/p][/quote]better managers? or better players perhaps? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

2:05pm Tue 10 Jun 14

jls217 says...

Dorssaints wrote:
Afternoon all, I think this is a sort of calming interview from Lallana, let uis not forget he has not come out and said that he wants to leave, only privatly.
.
Some fans have been really disrespectful about him, my only views are that he has not said that he wants to play for anyone else but clearly wanted Liverpool. If they say no, where else might he go and play (not sub)? Spurs, I don't thinks so, nor Manure nor Arsenal. Definitly not Man City. Can't see Chelsea so it appears to be Liverpool or bust?
Contraire Dorrsaints. I rather think it's Adam who has been more than a little disrespectful to those who pay his wages - you and I. At any point he could have said/tweeted - I am under contract to Southampton FC for the next four years and that is where I will be playing because I am inordinately proud to have been chosen as their captain. He's had weeks to say exactly that.
He has chosen to do nothing other than stoke the fires of uncertainty in far too many loyal Saints fans. To what end? Not exactly sure though there have been a couple of really good possibilities posted on this forum.
You do not play mind games with peoples affections or loyalties end of story.
[quote][p][bold]Dorssaints[/bold] wrote: Afternoon all, I think this is a sort of calming interview from Lallana, let uis not forget he has not come out and said that he wants to leave, only privatly. . Some fans have been really disrespectful about him, my only views are that he has not said that he wants to play for anyone else but clearly wanted Liverpool. If they say no, where else might he go and play (not sub)? Spurs, I don't thinks so, nor Manure nor Arsenal. Definitly not Man City. Can't see Chelsea so it appears to be Liverpool or bust?[/p][/quote]Contraire Dorrsaints. I rather think it's Adam who has been more than a little disrespectful to those who pay his wages - you and I. At any point he could have said/tweeted - I am under contract to Southampton FC for the next four years and that is where I will be playing because I am inordinately proud to have been chosen as their captain. He's had weeks to say exactly that. He has chosen to do nothing other than stoke the fires of uncertainty in far too many loyal Saints fans. To what end? Not exactly sure though there have been a couple of really good possibilities posted on this forum. You do not play mind games with peoples affections or loyalties end of story. jls217
  • Score: 7

2:22pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Chapperall says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Chapperall wrote:
From what we are hearing in the papers it looks like all the Saints players will be subs for the Italy match. Still main thing is that we beat them otherwise the next matches are going to become even more important.
Interesting that Osvaldo can't get in the italian squad, any one know what the latest is with him and the Saints?
Juventus want to continue the loan, not sure that would be of any benefit to us?
Thanks Osprey. Agreed not much help as we should be looking to sell and recoup .
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chapperall[/bold] wrote: From what we are hearing in the papers it looks like all the Saints players will be subs for the Italy match. Still main thing is that we beat them otherwise the next matches are going to become even more important. Interesting that Osvaldo can't get in the italian squad, any one know what the latest is with him and the Saints?[/p][/quote]Juventus want to continue the loan, not sure that would be of any benefit to us?[/p][/quote]Thanks Osprey. Agreed not much help as we should be looking to sell and recoup . Chapperall
  • Score: 1

2:57pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Dave Juson says...

jls217 wrote:
Dorssaints wrote:
Afternoon all, I think this is a sort of calming interview from Lallana, let uis not forget he has not come out and said that he wants to leave, only privatly.
.
Some fans have been really disrespectful about him, my only views are that he has not said that he wants to play for anyone else but clearly wanted Liverpool. If they say no, where else might he go and play (not sub)? Spurs, I don't thinks so, nor Manure nor Arsenal. Definitly not Man City. Can't see Chelsea so it appears to be Liverpool or bust?
Contraire Dorrsaints. I rather think it's Adam who has been more than a little disrespectful to those who pay his wages - you and I. At any point he could have said/tweeted - I am under contract to Southampton FC for the next four years and that is where I will be playing because I am inordinately proud to have been chosen as their captain. He's had weeks to say exactly that.
He has chosen to do nothing other than stoke the fires of uncertainty in far too many loyal Saints fans. To what end? Not exactly sure though there have been a couple of really good possibilities posted on this forum.
You do not play mind games with peoples affections or loyalties end of story.
You must be very young, I can recall Terry Paine and Mike Channon going through similar routines to the ones we are eduring with Adam Lallana and Luke Shaw at present; and Matthew Le Tissier, according to his autobiography did consider offers.
I do not believe any disrespect is intended by their interest in offers or possible offers from other clubs, so there is no point in taking offence.
Hopefully, the Club can persuade them to stay, if it is in the best interests of the Club. There hangs a question: who will be pushing hard for first team places next season?
Adam is not going to fetch £30-million in January if he has spent most of the season sitting on the bench. Ditto Luke.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dorssaints[/bold] wrote: Afternoon all, I think this is a sort of calming interview from Lallana, let uis not forget he has not come out and said that he wants to leave, only privatly. . Some fans have been really disrespectful about him, my only views are that he has not said that he wants to play for anyone else but clearly wanted Liverpool. If they say no, where else might he go and play (not sub)? Spurs, I don't thinks so, nor Manure nor Arsenal. Definitly not Man City. Can't see Chelsea so it appears to be Liverpool or bust?[/p][/quote]Contraire Dorrsaints. I rather think it's Adam who has been more than a little disrespectful to those who pay his wages - you and I. At any point he could have said/tweeted - I am under contract to Southampton FC for the next four years and that is where I will be playing because I am inordinately proud to have been chosen as their captain. He's had weeks to say exactly that. He has chosen to do nothing other than stoke the fires of uncertainty in far too many loyal Saints fans. To what end? Not exactly sure though there have been a couple of really good possibilities posted on this forum. You do not play mind games with peoples affections or loyalties end of story.[/p][/quote]You must be very young, I can recall Terry Paine and Mike Channon going through similar routines to the ones we are eduring with Adam Lallana and Luke Shaw at present; and Matthew Le Tissier, according to his autobiography [sic] did consider offers. I do not believe any disrespect is intended by their interest in offers or possible offers from other clubs, so there is no point in taking offence. Hopefully, the Club can persuade them to stay, if it is in the best interests of the Club. There hangs a question: who will be pushing hard for first team places next season? Adam is not going to fetch £30-million in January if he has spent most of the season sitting on the bench. Ditto Luke. Dave Juson
  • Score: 0

3:02pm Tue 10 Jun 14

right back in the bar says...

I wish them luck. But there's no smoke without fire and I don't expect AL and LS to be Saints players next season so I couldn't care less if I'm honest. Something unpalatable happens to English footballers at the first inkling of fame - LS's attitude to SFC is disgraceful and AL's declarations of loyalty ring hollow. The so called realism about England's prospects is really just the same misplaced optimism of the past - except this time we have the laughable notion that we could be the 'surprise package'.
I wish them luck. But there's no smoke without fire and I don't expect AL and LS to be Saints players next season so I couldn't care less if I'm honest. Something unpalatable happens to English footballers at the first inkling of fame - LS's attitude to SFC is disgraceful and AL's declarations of loyalty ring hollow. The so called realism about England's prospects is really just the same misplaced optimism of the past - except this time we have the laughable notion that we could be the 'surprise package'. right back in the bar
  • Score: 3

3:10pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Rising_Son says...

right back in the bar wrote:
I wish them luck. But there's no smoke without fire and I don't expect AL and LS to be Saints players next season so I couldn't care less if I'm honest. Something unpalatable happens to English footballers at the first inkling of fame - LS's attitude to SFC is disgraceful and AL's declarations of loyalty ring hollow. The so called realism about England's prospects is really just the same misplaced optimism of the past - except this time we have the laughable notion that we could be the 'surprise package'.
What exactly have LS and AL said (as opposed to have been rumoured to have said) that gives you such negative impressions?
[quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: I wish them luck. But there's no smoke without fire and I don't expect AL and LS to be Saints players next season so I couldn't care less if I'm honest. Something unpalatable happens to English footballers at the first inkling of fame - LS's attitude to SFC is disgraceful and AL's declarations of loyalty ring hollow. The so called realism about England's prospects is really just the same misplaced optimism of the past - except this time we have the laughable notion that we could be the 'surprise package'.[/p][/quote]What exactly have LS and AL said (as opposed to have been rumoured to have said) that gives you such negative impressions? Rising_Son
  • Score: 2

3:44pm Tue 10 Jun 14

jls217 says...

Dave Juson wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Dorssaints wrote:
Afternoon all, I think this is a sort of calming interview from Lallana, let uis not forget he has not come out and said that he wants to leave, only privatly.
.
Some fans have been really disrespectful about him, my only views are that he has not said that he wants to play for anyone else but clearly wanted Liverpool. If they say no, where else might he go and play (not sub)? Spurs, I don't thinks so, nor Manure nor Arsenal. Definitly not Man City. Can't see Chelsea so it appears to be Liverpool or bust?
Contraire Dorrsaints. I rather think it's Adam who has been more than a little disrespectful to those who pay his wages - you and I. At any point he could have said/tweeted - I am under contract to Southampton FC for the next four years and that is where I will be playing because I am inordinately proud to have been chosen as their captain. He's had weeks to say exactly that.
He has chosen to do nothing other than stoke the fires of uncertainty in far too many loyal Saints fans. To what end? Not exactly sure though there have been a couple of really good possibilities posted on this forum.
You do not play mind games with peoples affections or loyalties end of story.
You must be very young, I can recall Terry Paine and Mike Channon going through similar routines to the ones we are eduring with Adam Lallana and Luke Shaw at present; and Matthew Le Tissier, according to his autobiography did consider offers.
I do not believe any disrespect is intended by their interest in offers or possible offers from other clubs, so there is no point in taking offence.
Hopefully, the Club can persuade them to stay, if it is in the best interests of the Club. There hangs a question: who will be pushing hard for first team places next season?
Adam is not going to fetch £30-million in January if he has spent most of the season sitting on the bench. Ditto Luke.
It's kind of you to add youth to my many attributes. If I said my first ever game was to watch Johnny Haynes when he was the Lallana of his generation it may give you some idea as to my youth or otherwise.

Naturally no fan can be too surprised if the crown jewels attracts offers from other clubs.

It's quite flattering.


This young man is the captain of Southampton FC - Approx one year into a lucrative contract which he (and others) was quite content to sign. He is now contracted to SFC - If another club comes along and makes an enquiry as to the availability of said player the club will say non/oui as the case may be. It can then progress to fees, if that is mutually satisfactory the player then gets involved or not HIS CHOICE.

A player suddenly in despair over the contract the ink is currently still drying on can ask for a transfer - the club then either agrees or disagrees and then the agent touts his client.

What we have hear is a disgruntled team captain in one of the best/youthful sides in the league has suddenly, with ink still drying on aforementioned contract, has decided to agitate a move/interest in himself so as to deliberately renege on that contract.

This team captain (amongst others) has only ever had to say "That just isn't so, I am captain, under contract and I am going nowhere" To allay the concerns of many thousands of loyal fans.

For whatever reasons he has decided not to do so and treat those fans with contempt and disrespect.

Now if I have misunderstood any of the proceedings here (which is possible) I will humbly apologize to the man who I considered, again possibly mistakenly, to have had standards, scruples and credibility which is why he was granted the captaincy. Even if he stays I would like to see that armband on someone else. I feel extremely let down by this individual and on the wages I help to pay him I would have expected something in return - and that does not include silent contempt from him.
[quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dorssaints[/bold] wrote: Afternoon all, I think this is a sort of calming interview from Lallana, let uis not forget he has not come out and said that he wants to leave, only privatly. . Some fans have been really disrespectful about him, my only views are that he has not said that he wants to play for anyone else but clearly wanted Liverpool. If they say no, where else might he go and play (not sub)? Spurs, I don't thinks so, nor Manure nor Arsenal. Definitly not Man City. Can't see Chelsea so it appears to be Liverpool or bust?[/p][/quote]Contraire Dorrsaints. I rather think it's Adam who has been more than a little disrespectful to those who pay his wages - you and I. At any point he could have said/tweeted - I am under contract to Southampton FC for the next four years and that is where I will be playing because I am inordinately proud to have been chosen as their captain. He's had weeks to say exactly that. He has chosen to do nothing other than stoke the fires of uncertainty in far too many loyal Saints fans. To what end? Not exactly sure though there have been a couple of really good possibilities posted on this forum. You do not play mind games with peoples affections or loyalties end of story.[/p][/quote]You must be very young, I can recall Terry Paine and Mike Channon going through similar routines to the ones we are eduring with Adam Lallana and Luke Shaw at present; and Matthew Le Tissier, according to his autobiography [sic] did consider offers. I do not believe any disrespect is intended by their interest in offers or possible offers from other clubs, so there is no point in taking offence. Hopefully, the Club can persuade them to stay, if it is in the best interests of the Club. There hangs a question: who will be pushing hard for first team places next season? Adam is not going to fetch £30-million in January if he has spent most of the season sitting on the bench. Ditto Luke.[/p][/quote]It's kind of you to add youth to my many attributes. If I said my first ever game was to watch Johnny Haynes when he was the Lallana of his generation it may give you some idea as to my youth or otherwise. Naturally no fan can be too surprised if the crown jewels attracts offers from other clubs. It's quite flattering. This young man is the captain of Southampton FC - Approx one year into a lucrative contract which he (and others) was quite content to sign. He is now contracted to SFC - If another club comes along and makes an enquiry as to the availability of said player the club will say non/oui as the case may be. It can then progress to fees, if that is mutually satisfactory the player then gets involved or not HIS CHOICE. A player suddenly in despair over the contract the ink is currently still drying on can ask for a transfer - the club then either agrees or disagrees and then the agent touts his client. What we have hear is a disgruntled team captain in one of the best/youthful sides in the league has suddenly, with ink still drying on aforementioned contract, has decided to agitate a move/interest in himself so as to deliberately renege on that contract. This team captain (amongst others) has only ever had to say "That just isn't so, I am captain, under contract and I am going nowhere" To allay the concerns of many thousands of loyal fans. For whatever reasons he has decided not to do so and treat those fans with contempt and disrespect. Now if I have misunderstood any of the proceedings here (which is possible) I will humbly apologize to the man who I considered, again possibly mistakenly, to have had standards, scruples and credibility which is why he was granted the captaincy. Even if he stays I would like to see that armband on someone else. I feel extremely let down by this individual and on the wages I help to pay him I would have expected something in return - and that does not include silent contempt from him. jls217
  • Score: 6

4:29pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Santa Retfordia says...

jls217 wrote:
Dorssaints wrote:
Afternoon all, I think this is a sort of calming interview from Lallana, let uis not forget he has not come out and said that he wants to leave, only privatly.
.
Some fans have been really disrespectful about him, my only views are that he has not said that he wants to play for anyone else but clearly wanted Liverpool. If they say no, where else might he go and play (not sub)? Spurs, I don't thinks so, nor Manure nor Arsenal. Definitly not Man City. Can't see Chelsea so it appears to be Liverpool or bust?
Contraire Dorrsaints. I rather think it's Adam who has been more than a little disrespectful to those who pay his wages - you and I. At any point he could have said/tweeted - I am under contract to Southampton FC for the next four years and that is where I will be playing because I am inordinately proud to have been chosen as their captain. He's had weeks to say exactly that.
He has chosen to do nothing other than stoke the fires of uncertainty in far too many loyal Saints fans. To what end? Not exactly sure though there have been a couple of really good possibilities posted on this forum.
You do not play mind games with peoples affections or loyalties end of story.
Too right. It's like my daddy always told me: "Be careful who you love - don't go around breaking young girls' hearts".

Actually, I must remember to call him. I've not heard from him in ages.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dorssaints[/bold] wrote: Afternoon all, I think this is a sort of calming interview from Lallana, let uis not forget he has not come out and said that he wants to leave, only privatly. . Some fans have been really disrespectful about him, my only views are that he has not said that he wants to play for anyone else but clearly wanted Liverpool. If they say no, where else might he go and play (not sub)? Spurs, I don't thinks so, nor Manure nor Arsenal. Definitly not Man City. Can't see Chelsea so it appears to be Liverpool or bust?[/p][/quote]Contraire Dorrsaints. I rather think it's Adam who has been more than a little disrespectful to those who pay his wages - you and I. At any point he could have said/tweeted - I am under contract to Southampton FC for the next four years and that is where I will be playing because I am inordinately proud to have been chosen as their captain. He's had weeks to say exactly that. He has chosen to do nothing other than stoke the fires of uncertainty in far too many loyal Saints fans. To what end? Not exactly sure though there have been a couple of really good possibilities posted on this forum. You do not play mind games with peoples affections or loyalties end of story.[/p][/quote]Too right. It's like my daddy always told me: "Be careful who you love - don't go around breaking young girls' hearts". Actually, I must remember to call him. I've not heard from him in ages. Santa Retfordia
  • Score: 3

4:33pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Santa Retfordia says...

Rising_Son wrote:
right back in the bar wrote:
I wish them luck. But there's no smoke without fire and I don't expect AL and LS to be Saints players next season so I couldn't care less if I'm honest. Something unpalatable happens to English footballers at the first inkling of fame - LS's attitude to SFC is disgraceful and AL's declarations of loyalty ring hollow. The so called realism about England's prospects is really just the same misplaced optimism of the past - except this time we have the laughable notion that we could be the 'surprise package'.
What exactly have LS and AL said (as opposed to have been rumoured to have said) that gives you such negative impressions?
That's not important. Like he says: there's no smoke without fire. That is the absolute foundation of our entire judicial system.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: I wish them luck. But there's no smoke without fire and I don't expect AL and LS to be Saints players next season so I couldn't care less if I'm honest. Something unpalatable happens to English footballers at the first inkling of fame - LS's attitude to SFC is disgraceful and AL's declarations of loyalty ring hollow. The so called realism about England's prospects is really just the same misplaced optimism of the past - except this time we have the laughable notion that we could be the 'surprise package'.[/p][/quote]What exactly have LS and AL said (as opposed to have been rumoured to have said) that gives you such negative impressions?[/p][/quote]That's not important. Like he says: there's no smoke without fire. That is the absolute foundation of our entire judicial system. Santa Retfordia
  • Score: 0

4:49pm Tue 10 Jun 14

right back in the bar says...

Santa Retfordia wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
right back in the bar wrote:
I wish them luck. But there's no smoke without fire and I don't expect AL and LS to be Saints players next season so I couldn't care less if I'm honest. Something unpalatable happens to English footballers at the first inkling of fame - LS's attitude to SFC is disgraceful and AL's declarations of loyalty ring hollow. The so called realism about England's prospects is really just the same misplaced optimism of the past - except this time we have the laughable notion that we could be the 'surprise package'.
What exactly have LS and AL said (as opposed to have been rumoured to have said) that gives you such negative impressions?
That's not important. Like he says: there's no smoke without fire. That is the absolute foundation of our entire judicial system.
Both have said they want to leave, allegedly. Going by what happened with MP with press reports linking him with Spurs weeks ahead of actually jumping ship I reckon it is likely don't you?
[quote][p][bold]Santa Retfordia[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]right back in the bar[/bold] wrote: I wish them luck. But there's no smoke without fire and I don't expect AL and LS to be Saints players next season so I couldn't care less if I'm honest. Something unpalatable happens to English footballers at the first inkling of fame - LS's attitude to SFC is disgraceful and AL's declarations of loyalty ring hollow. The so called realism about England's prospects is really just the same misplaced optimism of the past - except this time we have the laughable notion that we could be the 'surprise package'.[/p][/quote]What exactly have LS and AL said (as opposed to have been rumoured to have said) that gives you such negative impressions?[/p][/quote]That's not important. Like he says: there's no smoke without fire. That is the absolute foundation of our entire judicial system.[/p][/quote]Both have said they want to leave, allegedly. Going by what happened with MP with press reports linking him with Spurs weeks ahead of actually jumping ship I reckon it is likely don't you? right back in the bar
  • Score: 1

4:55pm Tue 10 Jun 14

saint christopher says...

Obviously a no-news day. Not even regurgitated rumours.

Just folk once again spouting forth and making 2 + 2 a figure way in excess of 4 (probably).

Be glad once manager in and WC has started.
Obviously a no-news day. Not even regurgitated rumours. Just folk once again spouting forth and making 2 + 2 a figure way in excess of 4 (probably). Be glad once manager in and WC has started. saint christopher
  • Score: 1

4:59pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Dave Juson says...

Well, I do take your point, you old **** (he typed affectionately), but you should remember that Terry Paine (on more than one ocassion) and Mike Channon lost the captaincy when they started mumbling about transfers being "beneficial to both parties".
Channon's first serious statement of intent to leave was the denouement of a television documntary in the summer of 1975 -- which, incidently, is why Peter Rodrigues was captain at Wembley in 1976.
Many who post on these threads would call Channon and Paine's attempts to move a "kick in the teeth" (boring sentiment used by boring people) but, talking as a Saints supporter since 1963, I have come to accept that, cynicle though it all is, these events are all part of the rich tapestry of the game.
You also suggest that loyalty comes into the equation, if only loyalty to his contract, but on reflection Adam probably has vivid memories of being heavily booed and jeered everytime any Saint made a square pass when Jan Poortvliet was manager, so he probably entertains mixed emotions about Southampton fans, and if that is the case it is hardly fair to repraoch him.
By all means deprive him of the captaincy, if it pleases you, but bear in mind that there ane any number of reasons why Adam, in particular, should want to leave which have nothing to do with the present board or the fans, any number of reasons why the board might or might not want him to stay or go. None of these factors are going to feature in the Echo, because it is, as an institution, too stupid and lazy to either discover the truth or care about us knowing of it.
In short, what are we actually discussing here?
I will tell you: an Echo strory. Echo ... echo ... echo ... echo ... they go on forever, they never enlighten.
Well, I do take your point, you old **** (he typed affectionately), but you should remember that Terry Paine (on more than one ocassion) and Mike Channon lost the captaincy when they started mumbling about transfers being "beneficial to both parties". Channon's first serious statement of intent to leave was the denouement of a television documntary in the summer of 1975 -- which, incidently, is why Peter Rodrigues was captain at Wembley in 1976. Many who post on these threads would call Channon and Paine's attempts to move a "kick in the teeth" (boring sentiment used by boring people) but, talking as a Saints supporter since 1963, I have come to accept that, cynicle though it all is, these events are all part of the rich tapestry of the game. You also suggest that loyalty comes into the equation, if only loyalty to his contract, but on reflection Adam probably has vivid memories of being heavily booed and jeered everytime any Saint made a square pass when Jan Poortvliet was manager, so he probably entertains mixed emotions about Southampton fans, and if that is the case it is hardly fair to repraoch him. By all means deprive him of the captaincy, if it pleases you, but bear in mind that there ane any number of reasons why Adam, in particular, should want to leave which have nothing to do with the present board or the fans, any number of reasons why the board might or might not want him to stay or go. None of these factors are going to feature in the Echo, because it is, as an institution, too stupid and lazy to either discover the truth or care about us knowing of it. In short, what are we actually discussing here? I will tell you: an Echo strory. Echo ... echo ... echo ... echo ... they go on forever, they never enlighten. Dave Juson
  • Score: 1

5:21pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Chapperall wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Chapperall wrote:
From what we are hearing in the papers it looks like all the Saints players will be subs for the Italy match. Still main thing is that we beat them otherwise the next matches are going to become even more important.
Interesting that Osvaldo can't get in the italian squad, any one know what the latest is with him and the Saints?
Juventus want to continue the loan, not sure that would be of any benefit to us?
Thanks Osprey. Agreed not much help as we should be looking to sell and recoup .
It keeps his massive salary off the payroll but yes we need to turn him into cash, even at a fair loss, as it can be better spent elsewhere.
[quote][p][bold]Chapperall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chapperall[/bold] wrote: From what we are hearing in the papers it looks like all the Saints players will be subs for the Italy match. Still main thing is that we beat them otherwise the next matches are going to become even more important. Interesting that Osvaldo can't get in the italian squad, any one know what the latest is with him and the Saints?[/p][/quote]Juventus want to continue the loan, not sure that would be of any benefit to us?[/p][/quote]Thanks Osprey. Agreed not much help as we should be looking to sell and recoup .[/p][/quote]It keeps his massive salary off the payroll but yes we need to turn him into cash, even at a fair loss, as it can be better spent elsewhere. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 0

5:22pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Chapperall says...

saint christopher wrote:
Obviously a no-news day. Not even regurgitated rumours.

Just folk once again spouting forth and making 2 + 2 a figure way in excess of 4 (probably).

Be glad once manager in and WC has started.
Agreed new manager appointment essential for all of us that have renewed our season tickets and for all of the regular fans. One of the reasons we had a good start last season was because we were settled and brought in new players. Currently it feels we are a long way from that.
[quote][p][bold]saint christopher[/bold] wrote: Obviously a no-news day. Not even regurgitated rumours. Just folk once again spouting forth and making 2 + 2 a figure way in excess of 4 (probably). Be glad once manager in and WC has started.[/p][/quote]Agreed new manager appointment essential for all of us that have renewed our season tickets and for all of the regular fans. One of the reasons we had a good start last season was because we were settled and brought in new players. Currently it feels we are a long way from that. Chapperall
  • Score: 0

5:24pm Tue 10 Jun 14

saintbobby says...

Tuesday METRO reports Manure have offered Luke Shaw £160,000 a week, £8million a year.

Well, if true that's it, I reckon. Apparently, it has frightened off Chelsea. Luke's only snag about accepting this amazing money, is that our new manager (hurry up!) might say NO.

If this money is fact then our bottom line should be well over £30million. We found him, trained him, encouraged him and gave him his opportunity. A big fee is our entitlement and it should be more than the reputed £27million.
Tuesday METRO reports Manure have offered Luke Shaw £160,000 a week, £8million a year. Well, if true that's it, I reckon. Apparently, it has frightened off Chelsea. Luke's only snag about accepting this amazing money, is that our new manager (hurry up!) might say NO. If this money is fact then our bottom line should be well over £30million. We found him, trained him, encouraged him and gave him his opportunity. A big fee is our entitlement and it should be more than the reputed £27million. saintbobby
  • Score: 1

5:34pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Buddy SFC says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
worried of n e hampshire wrote:
when is the new Manager going to be announced???
I believe they are hoping for the end of this week according to some articles. I think a quick appointment would have been good had they had a Plan B in place incase MoPo buggered off. Obviously they didn't. So now they might as well take their time and get it right.
They won't announce before the end of the week ensuring the predator clubs cannot do anything to entice AL & LS before the World Cup - That leaves a new manager 3 weeks to settle in before having to make some big decisions ???
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]worried of n e hampshire[/bold] wrote: when is the new Manager going to be announced???[/p][/quote]I believe they are hoping for the end of this week according to some articles. I think a quick appointment would have been good had they had a Plan B in place incase MoPo buggered off. Obviously they didn't. So now they might as well take their time and get it right.[/p][/quote]They won't announce before the end of the week ensuring the predator clubs cannot do anything to entice AL & LS before the World Cup - That leaves a new manager 3 weeks to settle in before having to make some big decisions ??? Buddy SFC
  • Score: 1

5:37pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Buddy SFC says...

saintbobby wrote:
Tuesday METRO reports Manure have offered Luke Shaw £160,000 a week, £8million a year.

Well, if true that's it, I reckon. Apparently, it has frightened off Chelsea. Luke's only snag about accepting this amazing money, is that our new manager (hurry up!) might say NO.

If this money is fact then our bottom line should be well over £30million. We found him, trained him, encouraged him and gave him his opportunity. A big fee is our entitlement and it should be more than the reputed £27million.
This is the same METRO that said MoPo was signing a new 3 year contract with Saints a few days before he left to go to Spuds !

They, like most, haven't got a clue !
[quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: Tuesday METRO reports Manure have offered Luke Shaw £160,000 a week, £8million a year. Well, if true that's it, I reckon. Apparently, it has frightened off Chelsea. Luke's only snag about accepting this amazing money, is that our new manager (hurry up!) might say NO. If this money is fact then our bottom line should be well over £30million. We found him, trained him, encouraged him and gave him his opportunity. A big fee is our entitlement and it should be more than the reputed £27million.[/p][/quote]This is the same METRO that said MoPo was signing a new 3 year contract with Saints a few days before he left to go to Spuds ! They, like most, haven't got a clue ! Buddy SFC
  • Score: 1

5:38pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Chapperall says...

saintbobby wrote:
Tuesday METRO reports Manure have offered Luke Shaw £160,000 a week, £8million a year.

Well, if true that's it, I reckon. Apparently, it has frightened off Chelsea. Luke's only snag about accepting this amazing money, is that our new manager (hurry up!) might say NO.

If this money is fact then our bottom line should be well over £30million. We found him, trained him, encouraged him and gave him his opportunity. A big fee is our entitlement and it should be more than the reputed £27million.
Plus include a buy on clause as he could be another Gareth Bale
[quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: Tuesday METRO reports Manure have offered Luke Shaw £160,000 a week, £8million a year. Well, if true that's it, I reckon. Apparently, it has frightened off Chelsea. Luke's only snag about accepting this amazing money, is that our new manager (hurry up!) might say NO. If this money is fact then our bottom line should be well over £30million. We found him, trained him, encouraged him and gave him his opportunity. A big fee is our entitlement and it should be more than the reputed £27million.[/p][/quote]Plus include a buy on clause as he could be another Gareth Bale Chapperall
  • Score: 0

5:57pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Buddy SFC wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
worried of n e hampshire wrote:
when is the new Manager going to be announced???
I believe they are hoping for the end of this week according to some articles. I think a quick appointment would have been good had they had a Plan B in place incase MoPo buggered off. Obviously they didn't. So now they might as well take their time and get it right.
They won't announce before the end of the week ensuring the predator clubs cannot do anything to entice AL & LS before the World Cup - That leaves a new manager 3 weeks to settle in before having to make some big decisions ???
Yep.
[quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]worried of n e hampshire[/bold] wrote: when is the new Manager going to be announced???[/p][/quote]I believe they are hoping for the end of this week according to some articles. I think a quick appointment would have been good had they had a Plan B in place incase MoPo buggered off. Obviously they didn't. So now they might as well take their time and get it right.[/p][/quote]They won't announce before the end of the week ensuring the predator clubs cannot do anything to entice AL & LS before the World Cup - That leaves a new manager 3 weeks to settle in before having to make some big decisions ???[/p][/quote]Yep. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 0

6:15pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Confucious says...

On a more serious note, If I had been on £160,000 a week when I was 18, wow, things would have been really different. For a start I would never have had that rubbish unreliable mini van with holes in the floor. I found that being skint was very inconvenient and took up nearly all my spare time.

And thinking back to my own teenage mindset, there's no doubt the main thing on Luke's mind right now will be that when he's a mega-rich world-famous celeb Manure star with his own perfume brand, he'll be able to pull some really fantastic birds.

It's all very well for us lot on here to be critical, but you have to remember that at eighteen one does get the horn a lot and this affects one's priorities and judgement.
On a more serious note, If I had been on £160,000 a week when I was 18, wow, things would have been really different. For a start I would never have had that rubbish unreliable mini van with holes in the floor. I found that being skint was very inconvenient and took up nearly all my spare time. And thinking back to my own teenage mindset, there's no doubt the main thing on Luke's mind right now will be that when he's a mega-rich world-famous celeb Manure star with his own perfume brand, he'll be able to pull some really fantastic birds. It's all very well for us lot on here to be critical, but you have to remember that at eighteen one does get the horn a lot and this affects one's priorities and judgement. Confucious
  • Score: 5

6:18pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Jonny Maths says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Saddogitte wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Jesus_02 wrote:
Saddogitte wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
damoose wrote: The 2013/14 season brings back memories of 96/97...Le Tissier Berkovic Ostenstad were ripping the opposition apart 6-3 v Manure etc...Souness had repaired his reputation with some exciting football down here and excellent new-signings that made immediate- impact,everything was looking up,all we needed was 2 or 3 more player`s to really challenge for the top... then Souness left ..Berkovic kicked up a fuss and was soon off to West Ham..the MoPo era and the Souness era are so similar it`s spooky.we must not make the same mistakes we made back then,and let them rip our squad apart...
Unfortunately damoose the lessons of the past are only retained by the fans. New owners, new directors, new managers, new coaches and new players mean there is no one at the club that is even aware of those facts.
If we are to have proper success then we need continuity at all levels of management and of course investment. Continuity brings stability and stability brings consistency. We lack that as a club and have done since the Lawrie Mac era, unless we regain it we are in for ongoing roller coaster ride. I fastened my seat belt some years ago.
If STU's inside information is correct,and the plan of the current board is just stabilising and avoiding relegation for two years before a sell off,then that might not be as bad as it first appears,as it would give Nicola time to get a consortium together(if he isn't already),and mount a takeover...which would be nice!
If you were going to sell wouldnt you do it now whilst you still have a lot of quality players (assets) at the club? As for Cortese coming back. Thanks but no thanks.
Cortese wouldnt come back, and if he did he wouldnt get a consortium together anyway. His operation was built on Lean principles. Why anyone harbours a grudge to the guy is beyond me. Its a pointless as having a grudge against Kruger.
Cortese's record speaks for itself. Kreuger's will as well in the future - for all our sakes let's hope he matches Cortese's.
And if he can do it without hacking people off, treating employees with respect and without making us look like Liverpool, then so much the better.
Agreed. But I'd take success above those attributes.
Cortese knew what he had achieved here,and also what he was on the brink of,because it was in touching distance.Whether it is now or not,is in Krueger's hands now,and he will stand or fall by what happens in the next 12 months.
I hope he succeeds, because what has been achieved up to now,doesn't deserve to be just thrown away.
Personally,I still can't believe Cortese could just walk away from that achievement,without a sense of frustration at what could have been,but in the end wasnt,ultimately achieved under his command.
I'm still not 100% convinced that we've seen the last of him.
if you logic is correct ( and it may be ) then NC should pull together some mates and buy the club....
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saddogitte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saddogitte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]damoose[/bold] wrote: The 2013/14 season brings back memories of 96/97...Le Tissier Berkovic Ostenstad were ripping the opposition apart 6-3 v Manure etc...Souness had repaired his reputation with some exciting football down here and excellent new-signings that made immediate- impact,everything was looking up,all we needed was 2 or 3 more player`s to really challenge for the top... then Souness left ..Berkovic kicked up a fuss and was soon off to West Ham..the MoPo era and the Souness era are so similar it`s spooky.we must not make the same mistakes we made back then,and let them rip our squad apart...[/p][/quote]Unfortunately damoose the lessons of the past are only retained by the fans. New owners, new directors, new managers, new coaches and new players mean there is no one at the club that is even aware of those facts.[/p][/quote]If we are to have proper success then we need continuity at all levels of management and of course investment. Continuity brings stability and stability brings consistency. We lack that as a club and have done since the Lawrie Mac era, unless we regain it we are in for ongoing roller coaster ride. I fastened my seat belt some years ago.[/p][/quote]If STU's inside information is correct,and the plan of the current board is just stabilising and avoiding relegation for two years before a sell off,then that might not be as bad as it first appears,as it would give Nicola time to get a consortium together(if he isn't already),and mount a takeover...which would be nice![/p][/quote]If you were going to sell wouldnt you do it now whilst you still have a lot of quality players (assets) at the club? As for Cortese coming back. Thanks but no thanks.[/p][/quote]Cortese wouldnt come back, and if he did he wouldnt get a consortium together anyway. His operation was built on Lean principles. Why anyone harbours a grudge to the guy is beyond me. Its a pointless as having a grudge against Kruger.[/p][/quote]Cortese's record speaks for itself. Kreuger's will as well in the future - for all our sakes let's hope he matches Cortese's.[/p][/quote]And if he can do it without hacking people off, treating employees with respect and without making us look like Liverpool, then so much the better.[/p][/quote]Agreed. But I'd take success above those attributes.[/p][/quote]Cortese knew what he had achieved here,and also what he was on the brink of,because it was in touching distance.Whether it is now or not,is in Krueger's hands now,and he will stand or fall by what happens in the next 12 months. I hope he succeeds, because what has been achieved up to now,doesn't deserve to be just thrown away. Personally,I still can't believe Cortese could just walk away from that achievement,without a sense of frustration at what could have been,but in the end wasnt,ultimately achieved under his command. I'm still not 100% convinced that we've seen the last of him.[/p][/quote]if you logic is correct ( and it may be ) then NC should pull together some mates and buy the club.... Jonny Maths
  • Score: 0

6:36pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Jonny Maths wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Saddogitte wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Jesus_02 wrote:
Saddogitte wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
damoose wrote: The 2013/14 season brings back memories of 96/97...Le Tissier Berkovic Ostenstad were ripping the opposition apart 6-3 v Manure etc...Souness had repaired his reputation with some exciting football down here and excellent new-signings that made immediate- impact,everything was looking up,all we needed was 2 or 3 more player`s to really challenge for the top... then Souness left ..Berkovic kicked up a fuss and was soon off to West Ham..the MoPo era and the Souness era are so similar it`s spooky.we must not make the same mistakes we made back then,and let them rip our squad apart...
Unfortunately damoose the lessons of the past are only retained by the fans. New owners, new directors, new managers, new coaches and new players mean there is no one at the club that is even aware of those facts.
If we are to have proper success then we need continuity at all levels of management and of course investment. Continuity brings stability and stability brings consistency. We lack that as a club and have done since the Lawrie Mac era, unless we regain it we are in for ongoing roller coaster ride. I fastened my seat belt some years ago.
If STU's inside information is correct,and the plan of the current board is just stabilising and avoiding relegation for two years before a sell off,then that might not be as bad as it first appears,as it would give Nicola time to get a consortium together(if he isn't already),and mount a takeover...which would be nice!
If you were going to sell wouldnt you do it now whilst you still have a lot of quality players (assets) at the club? As for Cortese coming back. Thanks but no thanks.
Cortese wouldnt come back, and if he did he wouldnt get a consortium together anyway. His operation was built on Lean principles. Why anyone harbours a grudge to the guy is beyond me. Its a pointless as having a grudge against Kruger.
Cortese's record speaks for itself. Kreuger's will as well in the future - for all our sakes let's hope he matches Cortese's.
And if he can do it without hacking people off, treating employees with respect and without making us look like Liverpool, then so much the better.
Agreed. But I'd take success above those attributes.
Cortese knew what he had achieved here,and also what he was on the brink of,because it was in touching distance.Whether it is now or not,is in Krueger's hands now,and he will stand or fall by what happens in the next 12 months.
I hope he succeeds, because what has been achieved up to now,doesn't deserve to be just thrown away.
Personally,I still can't believe Cortese could just walk away from that achievement,without a sense of frustration at what could have been,but in the end wasnt,ultimately achieved under his command.
I'm still not 100% convinced that we've seen the last of him.
if you logic is correct ( and it may be ) then NC should pull together some mates and buy the club....
I would love to see it.Up to the time he left(love him or hate him),he brought nothing but success for the club,by making strong decisions that were sometimes misunderstood,and not welcomed by all of us.
Nevertheless it cannot be argued, that up until the end of last season,the clubs progress under his direction,was continuously upwards every season.
It is still too early to say whether or not that will continue under Krueger,(up to now we have only actually lost one player,with the prospect of replacing the departed manager with someone equally as good if not better),but under Cortese I never doubted for one minute that Saints would not deliver Markus's dream for the club,whereas as now,I am no longer so confident.
However,we shall find out,in the coming weeks and months.
[quote][p][bold]Jonny Maths[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saddogitte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saddogitte[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]damoose[/bold] wrote: The 2013/14 season brings back memories of 96/97...Le Tissier Berkovic Ostenstad were ripping the opposition apart 6-3 v Manure etc...Souness had repaired his reputation with some exciting football down here and excellent new-signings that made immediate- impact,everything was looking up,all we needed was 2 or 3 more player`s to really challenge for the top... then Souness left ..Berkovic kicked up a fuss and was soon off to West Ham..the MoPo era and the Souness era are so similar it`s spooky.we must not make the same mistakes we made back then,and let them rip our squad apart...[/p][/quote]Unfortunately damoose the lessons of the past are only retained by the fans. New owners, new directors, new managers, new coaches and new players mean there is no one at the club that is even aware of those facts.[/p][/quote]If we are to have proper success then we need continuity at all levels of management and of course investment. Continuity brings stability and stability brings consistency. We lack that as a club and have done since the Lawrie Mac era, unless we regain it we are in for ongoing roller coaster ride. I fastened my seat belt some years ago.[/p][/quote]If STU's inside information is correct,and the plan of the current board is just stabilising and avoiding relegation for two years before a sell off,then that might not be as bad as it first appears,as it would give Nicola time to get a consortium together(if he isn't already),and mount a takeover...which would be nice![/p][/quote]If you were going to sell wouldnt you do it now whilst you still have a lot of quality players (assets) at the club? As for Cortese coming back. Thanks but no thanks.[/p][/quote]Cortese wouldnt come back, and if he did he wouldnt get a consortium together anyway. His operation was built on Lean principles. Why anyone harbours a grudge to the guy is beyond me. Its a pointless as having a grudge against Kruger.[/p][/quote]Cortese's record speaks for itself. Kreuger's will as well in the future - for all our sakes let's hope he matches Cortese's.[/p][/quote]And if he can do it without hacking people off, treating employees with respect and without making us look like Liverpool, then so much the better.[/p][/quote]Agreed. But I'd take success above those attributes.[/p][/quote]Cortese knew what he had achieved here,and also what he was on the brink of,because it was in touching distance.Whether it is now or not,is in Krueger's hands now,and he will stand or fall by what happens in the next 12 months. I hope he succeeds, because what has been achieved up to now,doesn't deserve to be just thrown away. Personally,I still can't believe Cortese could just walk away from that achievement,without a sense of frustration at what could have been,but in the end wasnt,ultimately achieved under his command. I'm still not 100% convinced that we've seen the last of him.[/p][/quote]if you logic is correct ( and it may be ) then NC should pull together some mates and buy the club....[/p][/quote]I would love to see it.Up to the time he left(love him or hate him),he brought nothing but success for the club,by making strong decisions that were sometimes misunderstood,and not welcomed by all of us. Nevertheless it cannot be argued, that up until the end of last season,the clubs progress under his direction,was continuously upwards every season. It is still too early to say whether or not that will continue under Krueger,(up to now we have only actually lost one player,with the prospect of replacing the departed manager with someone equally as good if not better),but under Cortese I never doubted for one minute that Saints would not deliver Markus's dream for the club,whereas as now,I am no longer so confident. However,we shall find out,in the coming weeks and months. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 2

6:53pm Tue 10 Jun 14

jls217 says...

Dave Juson wrote:
Well, I do take your point, you old **** (he typed affectionately), but you should remember that Terry Paine (on more than one ocassion) and Mike Channon lost the captaincy when they started mumbling about transfers being "beneficial to both parties".
Channon's first serious statement of intent to leave was the denouement of a television documntary in the summer of 1975 -- which, incidently, is why Peter Rodrigues was captain at Wembley in 1976.
Many who post on these threads would call Channon and Paine's attempts to move a "kick in the teeth" (boring sentiment used by boring people) but, talking as a Saints supporter since 1963, I have come to accept that, cynicle though it all is, these events are all part of the rich tapestry of the game.
You also suggest that loyalty comes into the equation, if only loyalty to his contract, but on reflection Adam probably has vivid memories of being heavily booed and jeered everytime any Saint made a square pass when Jan Poortvliet was manager, so he probably entertains mixed emotions about Southampton fans, and if that is the case it is hardly fair to repraoch him.
By all means deprive him of the captaincy, if it pleases you, but bear in mind that there ane any number of reasons why Adam, in particular, should want to leave which have nothing to do with the present board or the fans, any number of reasons why the board might or might not want him to stay or go. None of these factors are going to feature in the Echo, because it is, as an institution, too stupid and lazy to either discover the truth or care about us knowing of it.
In short, what are we actually discussing here?
I will tell you: an Echo strory. Echo ... echo ... echo ... echo ... they go on forever, they never enlighten.
Your point is well made sir.
[quote][p][bold]Dave Juson[/bold] wrote: Well, I do take your point, you old **** (he typed affectionately), but you should remember that Terry Paine (on more than one ocassion) and Mike Channon lost the captaincy when they started mumbling about transfers being "beneficial to both parties". Channon's first serious statement of intent to leave was the denouement of a television documntary in the summer of 1975 -- which, incidently, is why Peter Rodrigues was captain at Wembley in 1976. Many who post on these threads would call Channon and Paine's attempts to move a "kick in the teeth" (boring sentiment used by boring people) but, talking as a Saints supporter since 1963, I have come to accept that, cynicle though it all is, these events are all part of the rich tapestry of the game. You also suggest that loyalty comes into the equation, if only loyalty to his contract, but on reflection Adam probably has vivid memories of being heavily booed and jeered everytime any Saint made a square pass when Jan Poortvliet was manager, so he probably entertains mixed emotions about Southampton fans, and if that is the case it is hardly fair to repraoch him. By all means deprive him of the captaincy, if it pleases you, but bear in mind that there ane any number of reasons why Adam, in particular, should want to leave which have nothing to do with the present board or the fans, any number of reasons why the board might or might not want him to stay or go. None of these factors are going to feature in the Echo, because it is, as an institution, too stupid and lazy to either discover the truth or care about us knowing of it. In short, what are we actually discussing here? I will tell you: an Echo strory. Echo ... echo ... echo ... echo ... they go on forever, they never enlighten.[/p][/quote]Your point is well made sir. jls217
  • Score: 1

6:59pm Tue 10 Jun 14

WobblyCat says...

Some good comments on here but let’s face it, Lamby has gone and Lallana and Shaw are soon to follow. Call me morose but I wonder if a club has ever had three players go to a world cup before only for none of them to ever kick a ball for that club again. There’s a tipping point where you want your teams players to excel only for that to attract ‘bigger’ clubs and risk losing them. I think we have reached it we’ve these boys. I hope the new manager is in soon so we can move on and rebuild.
Some good comments on here but let’s face it, Lamby has gone and Lallana and Shaw are soon to follow. Call me morose but I wonder if a club has ever had three players go to a world cup before only for none of them to ever kick a ball for that club again. There’s a tipping point where you want your teams players to excel only for that to attract ‘bigger’ clubs and risk losing them. I think we have reached it we’ve these boys. I hope the new manager is in soon so we can move on and rebuild. WobblyCat
  • Score: 1

7:19pm Tue 10 Jun 14

pitbull says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Buddy SFC wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
worried of n e hampshire wrote:
when is the new Manager going to be announced???
I believe they are hoping for the end of this week according to some articles. I think a quick appointment would have been good had they had a Plan B in place incase MoPo buggered off. Obviously they didn't. So now they might as well take their time and get it right.
They won't announce before the end of the week ensuring the predator clubs cannot do anything to entice AL & LS before the World Cup - That leaves a new manager 3 weeks to settle in before having to make some big decisions ???
Yep.
Apparently, Ronald Koeman is on holiday.

Could explain the delay I suppose.

http://www.clubcall.
com/southampton/koem
an-not-in-talks-with
-saints-rivals-17285
83.html?
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Buddy SFC[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]worried of n e hampshire[/bold] wrote: when is the new Manager going to be announced???[/p][/quote]I believe they are hoping for the end of this week according to some articles. I think a quick appointment would have been good had they had a Plan B in place incase MoPo buggered off. Obviously they didn't. So now they might as well take their time and get it right.[/p][/quote]They won't announce before the end of the week ensuring the predator clubs cannot do anything to entice AL & LS before the World Cup - That leaves a new manager 3 weeks to settle in before having to make some big decisions ???[/p][/quote]Yep.[/p][/quote]Apparently, Ronald Koeman is on holiday. Could explain the delay I suppose. http://www.clubcall. com/southampton/koem an-not-in-talks-with -saints-rivals-17285 83.html? pitbull
  • Score: 0

7:36pm Tue 10 Jun 14

LFCalways says...

Invidia wrote:
Reading this tread it reads as if the DE has had an exclusive interview with AL surely not, hey wait a minute ITV has exactly the same story only in a bit more depth. That aside it reads that maybe AL is trying to mend fences with Saints now that Liverpool has cooled in their attempt to sign him. As for LS most of the hacks reckon that it is a done deal and he is in for about £6,000000 a year salary, there are a couple of hacks suggesting that Van Gaal is looking else where for a left back as LS is a rather expensive option, who knows the merry-go-round continues to go round. the more I read the more I am convinced that the media know nothing and are just playing out the days until the WC begins
Guys when will you learn the reason why nothing is happening is your board do not want to buy or sell players until your new manager is in place......so this cooled down from Liverpool and United for your players is c.r.a.p, wait until you have new manager or after World Cup and you'll see
[quote][p][bold]Invidia[/bold] wrote: Reading this tread it reads as if the DE has had an exclusive interview with AL surely not, hey wait a minute ITV has exactly the same story only in a bit more depth. That aside it reads that maybe AL is trying to mend fences with Saints now that Liverpool has cooled in their attempt to sign him. As for LS most of the hacks reckon that it is a done deal and he is in for about £6,000000 a year salary, there are a couple of hacks suggesting that Van Gaal is looking else where for a left back as LS is a rather expensive option, who knows the merry-go-round continues to go round. the more I read the more I am convinced that the media know nothing and are just playing out the days until the WC begins[/p][/quote]Guys when will you learn the reason why nothing is happening is your board do not want to buy or sell players until your new manager is in place......so this cooled down from Liverpool and United for your players is c.r.a.p, wait until you have new manager or after World Cup and you'll see LFCalways
  • Score: -2

7:42pm Tue 10 Jun 14

george chivers says...

Confucious wrote:
On a more serious note, If I had been on £160,000 a week when I was 18, wow, things would have been really different. For a start I would never have had that rubbish unreliable mini van with holes in the floor. I found that being skint was very inconvenient and took up nearly all my spare time.

And thinking back to my own teenage mindset, there's no doubt the main thing on Luke's mind right now will be that when he's a mega-rich world-famous celeb Manure star with his own perfume brand, he'll be able to pull some really fantastic birds.

It's all very well for us lot on here to be critical, but you have to remember that at eighteen one does get the horn a lot and this affects one's priorities and judgement.
I used to listen to Round the Horn a lot, was that the same thing as getting the horn? I thought it was very funny but it didn't affect my judgement much, I took my mum's advice, stayed in to listen to the radio and avoided girls who might get me into trouble.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: On a more serious note, If I had been on £160,000 a week when I was 18, wow, things would have been really different. For a start I would never have had that rubbish unreliable mini van with holes in the floor. I found that being skint was very inconvenient and took up nearly all my spare time. And thinking back to my own teenage mindset, there's no doubt the main thing on Luke's mind right now will be that when he's a mega-rich world-famous celeb Manure star with his own perfume brand, he'll be able to pull some really fantastic birds. It's all very well for us lot on here to be critical, but you have to remember that at eighteen one does get the horn a lot and this affects one's priorities and judgement.[/p][/quote]I used to listen to Round the Horn a lot, was that the same thing as getting the horn? I thought it was very funny but it didn't affect my judgement much, I took my mum's advice, stayed in to listen to the radio and avoided girls who might get me into trouble. george chivers
  • Score: 1

8:05pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Confucious says...

george chivers wrote:
Confucious wrote:
On a more serious note, If I had been on £160,000 a week when I was 18, wow, things would have been really different. For a start I would never have had that rubbish unreliable mini van with holes in the floor. I found that being skint was very inconvenient and took up nearly all my spare time.

And thinking back to my own teenage mindset, there's no doubt the main thing on Luke's mind right now will be that when he's a mega-rich world-famous celeb Manure star with his own perfume brand, he'll be able to pull some really fantastic birds.

It's all very well for us lot on here to be critical, but you have to remember that at eighteen one does get the horn a lot and this affects one's priorities and judgement.
I used to listen to Round the Horn a lot, was that the same thing as getting the horn? I thought it was very funny but it didn't affect my judgement much, I took my mum's advice, stayed in to listen to the radio and avoided girls who might get me into trouble.
My mum smacked me when I said I wanted to watch Hornblower.
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: On a more serious note, If I had been on £160,000 a week when I was 18, wow, things would have been really different. For a start I would never have had that rubbish unreliable mini van with holes in the floor. I found that being skint was very inconvenient and took up nearly all my spare time. And thinking back to my own teenage mindset, there's no doubt the main thing on Luke's mind right now will be that when he's a mega-rich world-famous celeb Manure star with his own perfume brand, he'll be able to pull some really fantastic birds. It's all very well for us lot on here to be critical, but you have to remember that at eighteen one does get the horn a lot and this affects one's priorities and judgement.[/p][/quote]I used to listen to Round the Horn a lot, was that the same thing as getting the horn? I thought it was very funny but it didn't affect my judgement much, I took my mum's advice, stayed in to listen to the radio and avoided girls who might get me into trouble.[/p][/quote]My mum smacked me when I said I wanted to watch Hornblower. Confucious
  • Score: 1

8:08pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Clever Dick says...

george chivers wrote:
Confucious wrote:
On a more serious note, If I had been on £160,000 a week when I was 18, wow, things would have been really different. For a start I would never have had that rubbish unreliable mini van with holes in the floor. I found that being skint was very inconvenient and took up nearly all my spare time.

And thinking back to my own teenage mindset, there's no doubt the main thing on Luke's mind right now will be that when he's a mega-rich world-famous celeb Manure star with his own perfume brand, he'll be able to pull some really fantastic birds.

It's all very well for us lot on here to be critical, but you have to remember that at eighteen one does get the horn a lot and this affects one's priorities and judgement.
I used to listen to Round the Horn a lot, was that the same thing as getting the horn? I thought it was very funny but it didn't affect my judgement much, I took my mum's advice, stayed in to listen to the radio and avoided girls who might get me into trouble.
Confucious has cracked it. I've written to Les Reed and suggested that we get Luke castrated on the day we get knocked out of the WC. Judging by Woy's totally boring and uninteresting statements every time he is interviewed I expect that to be sooner rather than later. He looks like a rabbit in the headlights. Totally out of his depth. And when young Luke turns out for us next season please try to refrain from shouting "Come on Luke grow some balls"
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: On a more serious note, If I had been on £160,000 a week when I was 18, wow, things would have been really different. For a start I would never have had that rubbish unreliable mini van with holes in the floor. I found that being skint was very inconvenient and took up nearly all my spare time. And thinking back to my own teenage mindset, there's no doubt the main thing on Luke's mind right now will be that when he's a mega-rich world-famous celeb Manure star with his own perfume brand, he'll be able to pull some really fantastic birds. It's all very well for us lot on here to be critical, but you have to remember that at eighteen one does get the horn a lot and this affects one's priorities and judgement.[/p][/quote]I used to listen to Round the Horn a lot, was that the same thing as getting the horn? I thought it was very funny but it didn't affect my judgement much, I took my mum's advice, stayed in to listen to the radio and avoided girls who might get me into trouble.[/p][/quote]Confucious has cracked it. I've written to Les Reed and suggested that we get Luke castrated on the day we get knocked out of the WC. Judging by Woy's totally boring and uninteresting statements every time he is interviewed I expect that to be sooner rather than later. He looks like a rabbit in the headlights. Totally out of his depth. And when young Luke turns out for us next season please try to refrain from shouting "Come on Luke grow some balls" Clever Dick
  • Score: 0

8:11pm Tue 10 Jun 14

TPFKARTSNINZ says...

george chivers wrote:
Confucious wrote:
On a more serious note, If I had been on £160,000 a week when I was 18, wow, things would have been really different. For a start I would never have had that rubbish unreliable mini van with holes in the floor. I found that being skint was very inconvenient and took up nearly all my spare time.

And thinking back to my own teenage mindset, there's no doubt the main thing on Luke's mind right now will be that when he's a mega-rich world-famous celeb Manure star with his own perfume brand, he'll be able to pull some really fantastic birds.

It's all very well for us lot on here to be critical, but you have to remember that at eighteen one does get the horn a lot and this affects one's priorities and judgement.
I used to listen to Round the Horn a lot, was that the same thing as getting the horn? I thought it was very funny but it didn't affect my judgement much, I took my mum's advice, stayed in to listen to the radio and avoided girls who might get me into trouble.
I think Confucious may also be well versed in the esteemed works of Derek & Clive.
[quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: On a more serious note, If I had been on £160,000 a week when I was 18, wow, things would have been really different. For a start I would never have had that rubbish unreliable mini van with holes in the floor. I found that being skint was very inconvenient and took up nearly all my spare time. And thinking back to my own teenage mindset, there's no doubt the main thing on Luke's mind right now will be that when he's a mega-rich world-famous celeb Manure star with his own perfume brand, he'll be able to pull some really fantastic birds. It's all very well for us lot on here to be critical, but you have to remember that at eighteen one does get the horn a lot and this affects one's priorities and judgement.[/p][/quote]I used to listen to Round the Horn a lot, was that the same thing as getting the horn? I thought it was very funny but it didn't affect my judgement much, I took my mum's advice, stayed in to listen to the radio and avoided girls who might get me into trouble.[/p][/quote]I think Confucious may also be well versed in the esteemed works of Derek & Clive. TPFKARTSNINZ
  • Score: 1

8:16pm Tue 10 Jun 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Confucious wrote:
george chivers wrote:
Confucious wrote:
On a more serious note, If I had been on £160,000 a week when I was 18, wow, things would have been really different. For a start I would never have had that rubbish unreliable mini van with holes in the floor. I found that being skint was very inconvenient and took up nearly all my spare time.

And thinking back to my own teenage mindset, there's no doubt the main thing on Luke's mind right now will be that when he's a mega-rich world-famous celeb Manure star with his own perfume brand, he'll be able to pull some really fantastic birds.

It's all very well for us lot on here to be critical, but you have to remember that at eighteen one does get the horn a lot and this affects one's priorities and judgement.
I used to listen to Round the Horn a lot, was that the same thing as getting the horn? I thought it was very funny but it didn't affect my judgement much, I took my mum's advice, stayed in to listen to the radio and avoided girls who might get me into trouble.
My mum smacked me when I said I wanted to watch Hornblower.
I'll quite often get the horn when I'm in my car,but its all down to my p!ss poor driving.
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]george chivers[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: On a more serious note, If I had been on £160,000 a week when I was 18, wow, things would have been really different. For a start I would never have had that rubbish unreliable mini van with holes in the floor. I found that being skint was very inconvenient and took up nearly all my spare time. And thinking back to my own teenage mindset, there's no doubt the main thing on Luke's mind right now will be that when he's a mega-rich world-famous celeb Manure star with his own perfume brand, he'll be able to pull some really fantastic birds. It's all very well for us lot on here to be critical, but you have to remember that at eighteen one does get the horn a lot and this affects one's priorities and judgement.[/p][/quote]I used to listen to Round the Horn a lot, was that the same thing as getting the horn? I thought it was very funny but it didn't affect my judgement much, I took my mum's advice, stayed in to listen to the radio and avoided girls who might get me into trouble.[/p][/quote]My mum smacked me when I said I wanted to watch Hornblower.[/p][/quote]I'll quite often get the horn when I'm in my car,but its all down to my p!ss poor driving. Positively4thStreet
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8:35pm Tue 10 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

http://www.not606.co
m/showthread.php/265
810-Interview-with-L
es-Reed/page2

In case you missed Les Reeds latest epistle is available, worth a listen but it doesn't give any hard and fast facts.
http://www.not606.co m/showthread.php/265 810-Interview-with-L es-Reed/page2 In case you missed Les Reeds latest epistle is available, worth a listen but it doesn't give any hard and fast facts. OSPREYSAINT
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8:50pm Tue 10 Jun 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

SAINTS FANS want the New Manager installed to restore confidence and provide Leadership Direction and Stability with a focus on Progression.

REMEMBER - Every Game is difficult in the Premiership and to remain in the TOP TEN for the next Decade will be a substantial achievement - rather than a fast Burning One Season and into the mix in the bottom half.

Working with THE BOARD - a TOP PERFORMANCE STRIKER is essential and will need to be Number 1 on the Shopping List.

Number 2 is to Strengthen at CB to provide Cover and Competition .

If there are funds - A Pacy Winger would provide OPTIONS.

The question for Saints Fans is whether to strengthen at GK - Do you sacrifice some Performance and REWARD LOYALTY and a POSTIVE EFFECT IN THE DRESSING ROOM for Kelvin.

ADAM LALLANA WANTED AS CAPTAIN OF SAINTS NEXT SEASON.
SAINTS FANS want the New Manager installed to restore confidence and provide Leadership Direction and Stability with a focus on Progression. REMEMBER - Every Game is difficult in the Premiership and to remain in the TOP TEN for the next Decade will be a substantial achievement - rather than a fast Burning One Season and into the mix in the bottom half. Working with THE BOARD - a TOP PERFORMANCE STRIKER is essential and will need to be Number 1 on the Shopping List. Number 2 is to Strengthen at CB to provide Cover and Competition . If there are funds - A Pacy Winger would provide OPTIONS. The question for Saints Fans is whether to strengthen at GK - Do you sacrifice some Performance and REWARD LOYALTY and a POSTIVE EFFECT IN THE DRESSING ROOM for Kelvin. ADAM LALLANA WANTED AS CAPTAIN OF SAINTS NEXT SEASON. The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
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8:52pm Tue 10 Jun 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
http://www.not606.co

m/showthread.php/265

810-Interview-with-L

es-Reed/page2

In case you missed Les Reeds latest epistle is available, worth a listen but it doesn't give any hard and fast facts.
I forgot to warn you it is twenty minutes long.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: http://www.not606.co m/showthread.php/265 810-Interview-with-L es-Reed/page2 In case you missed Les Reeds latest epistle is available, worth a listen but it doesn't give any hard and fast facts.[/p][/quote]I forgot to warn you it is twenty minutes long. OSPREYSAINT
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8:54pm Tue 10 Jun 14

jls217 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
http://www.not606.co


m/showthread.php/265


810-Interview-with-L


es-Reed/page2

In case you missed Les Reeds latest epistle is available, worth a listen but it doesn't give any hard and fast facts.
I forgot to warn you it is twenty minutes long.
Very re-assuring though.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: http://www.not606.co m/showthread.php/265 810-Interview-with-L es-Reed/page2 In case you missed Les Reeds latest epistle is available, worth a listen but it doesn't give any hard and fast facts.[/p][/quote]I forgot to warn you it is twenty minutes long.[/p][/quote]Very re-assuring though. jls217
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8:59pm Tue 10 Jun 14

jls217 says...

Ronald Koeman's agent has dismissed rumours that the Dutchman has held talks with West Brom - as he waits on the Southampton job. Koeman remains the bookmakers favourite for the St Mary's vacancy, despite reports on Tuesday morning claiming that he was also holding talks with Baggies officials about potentially taking over at the Hawthorns next season. The Dutchman was linked to West Brom in January before they appointed Spaniard Pepe Mel - while ex-Spurs boss Tim Sherwood remains the favourite for that vacant head coaching position. Koeman's agent Guido Albers has confirmed that his client is not in any discussions with the Black Country club. Albers said: "There has been no discussions between Ronald and West Brom. Ronald is currently on holiday."

Read more at: http://www.clubcall.

com/southampton/koem

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Ronald Koeman's agent has dismissed rumours that the Dutchman has held talks with West Brom - as he waits on the Southampton job. Koeman remains the bookmakers favourite for the St Mary's vacancy, despite reports on Tuesday morning claiming that he was also holding talks with Baggies officials about potentially taking over at the Hawthorns next season. The Dutchman was linked to West Brom in January before they appointed Spaniard Pepe Mel - while ex-Spurs boss Tim Sherwood remains the favourite for that vacant head coaching position. Koeman's agent Guido Albers has confirmed that his client is not in any discussions with the Black Country club. Albers said: "There has been no discussions between Ronald and West Brom. Ronald is currently on holiday." Read more at: http://www.clubcall. com/southampton/koem an-not-in-talks-with -saints-rivals-17285 83.html? jls217
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7:22am Wed 11 Jun 14

Chapperall says...

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
SAINTS FANS want the New Manager installed to restore confidence and provide Leadership Direction and Stability with a focus on Progression.

REMEMBER - Every Game is difficult in the Premiership and to remain in the TOP TEN for the next Decade will be a substantial achievement - rather than a fast Burning One Season and into the mix in the bottom half.

Working with THE BOARD - a TOP PERFORMANCE STRIKER is essential and will need to be Number 1 on the Shopping List.

Number 2 is to Strengthen at CB to provide Cover and Competition .

If there are funds - A Pacy Winger would provide OPTIONS.

The question for Saints Fans is whether to strengthen at GK - Do you sacrifice some Performance and REWARD LOYALTY and a POSTIVE EFFECT IN THE DRESSING ROOM for Kelvin.

ADAM LALLANA WANTED AS CAPTAIN OF SAINTS NEXT SEASON.
Agree with all of this post. We do need a decent sub for Boruc as Gaz is just not at premiership level. KD should move into coaching as he has been a loyal Saints player
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: SAINTS FANS want the New Manager installed to restore confidence and provide Leadership Direction and Stability with a focus on Progression. REMEMBER - Every Game is difficult in the Premiership and to remain in the TOP TEN for the next Decade will be a substantial achievement - rather than a fast Burning One Season and into the mix in the bottom half. Working with THE BOARD - a TOP PERFORMANCE STRIKER is essential and will need to be Number 1 on the Shopping List. Number 2 is to Strengthen at CB to provide Cover and Competition . If there are funds - A Pacy Winger would provide OPTIONS. The question for Saints Fans is whether to strengthen at GK - Do you sacrifice some Performance and REWARD LOYALTY and a POSTIVE EFFECT IN THE DRESSING ROOM for Kelvin. ADAM LALLANA WANTED AS CAPTAIN OF SAINTS NEXT SEASON.[/p][/quote]Agree with all of this post. We do need a decent sub for Boruc as Gaz is just not at premiership level. KD should move into coaching as he has been a loyal Saints player Chapperall
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9:57am Wed 11 Jun 14

jls217 says...

Chapperall wrote:
The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
SAINTS FANS want the New Manager installed to restore confidence and provide Leadership Direction and Stability with a focus on Progression.

REMEMBER - Every Game is difficult in the Premiership and to remain in the TOP TEN for the next Decade will be a substantial achievement - rather than a fast Burning One Season and into the mix in the bottom half.

Working with THE BOARD - a TOP PERFORMANCE STRIKER is essential and will need to be Number 1 on the Shopping List.

Number 2 is to Strengthen at CB to provide Cover and Competition .

If there are funds - A Pacy Winger would provide OPTIONS.

The question for Saints Fans is whether to strengthen at GK - Do you sacrifice some Performance and REWARD LOYALTY and a POSTIVE EFFECT IN THE DRESSING ROOM for Kelvin.

ADAM LALLANA WANTED AS CAPTAIN OF SAINTS NEXT SEASON.
Agree with all of this post. We do need a decent sub for Boruc as Gaz is just not at premiership level. KD should move into coaching as he has been a loyal Saints player
Doesn't mean he'll make a good coach though - coaching jobs are not handed out because of loyalty.
[quote][p][bold]Chapperall[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: SAINTS FANS want the New Manager installed to restore confidence and provide Leadership Direction and Stability with a focus on Progression. REMEMBER - Every Game is difficult in the Premiership and to remain in the TOP TEN for the next Decade will be a substantial achievement - rather than a fast Burning One Season and into the mix in the bottom half. Working with THE BOARD - a TOP PERFORMANCE STRIKER is essential and will need to be Number 1 on the Shopping List. Number 2 is to Strengthen at CB to provide Cover and Competition . If there are funds - A Pacy Winger would provide OPTIONS. The question for Saints Fans is whether to strengthen at GK - Do you sacrifice some Performance and REWARD LOYALTY and a POSTIVE EFFECT IN THE DRESSING ROOM for Kelvin. ADAM LALLANA WANTED AS CAPTAIN OF SAINTS NEXT SEASON.[/p][/quote]Agree with all of this post. We do need a decent sub for Boruc as Gaz is just not at premiership level. KD should move into coaching as he has been a loyal Saints player[/p][/quote]Doesn't mean he'll make a good coach though - coaching jobs are not handed out because of loyalty. jls217
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