Saints boss Ronald Koeman edges closer to signing Feyenoord striker Graziano Pelle and FC Twente midfielder Dusan Tadic

Graziano Pelle

Graziano Pelle

First published in Sport Daily Echo: Photograph of the Author by , Senior Sports Reporter

Saints are edging closer to securing Feyenoord striker Graziano Pelle and FC Twente midfielder Dusan Tadic.

The club are attempting to make the pair the first signings of the Ronald Koeman era at St Mary’s and are hoping to now seal both deals next week.

As reported in Monday’s Daily Echo, Saints have been in negotiations with Feyenoord and Twente for the players, with progress having been made on both fronts this week.

They are understood to have raised their initial bid for Pelle to about £6.4m (€8m) and an agreement with Feyenoord is believed to be close now.

Their move for Serbian playmaker Tadic, who is viewed as an ideal replacement for Adam Lallana and is likely to cost around £9m, is also progressing.

Sevilla, who are also interested in the player, are said to have declared defeat in the race as they cannot match Saints’ financial power.

There is a growing confidence on both deals and Saints hope to finalise them next week, ahead of Koeman conducting his first media duties on Friday.

Ideally, they would like them to be done in the early part of the week.

Both players would arrive at St Mary’s after shining in the Dutch top-flight.

Pelle bagged a total of 50 goals in 57 appearances over the past two campaigns, after being brought to Feyenoord by Koeman.

The 6ft 4in forward, who turns 29 later this month, is keen to follow his old boss to the Premier League and try to prove himself in England.

Tadic, 25, is also extremely highly-regarded in the Eredivisie.

He enjoyed an outstanding season with Twente last term, scoring 16 goals from midfield and helping the team to a third-place finish.

He also provided 14 assists and created an eye-catching total of 133 chances – in both categories, he led the way by some considerable distance.

Tadic, who made his international debut at 19, has been capped 25 times by his country.

He has also attracted interest from Schalke, but Saints look favourites to land him.

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4:26am Sat 5 Jul 14

Ontario Saint says...

Probably a two for one deal related to what Saints sold Lallana. Sounds as though Tadic is every bit as good as Lallana and both he and Pelle are able to score goals. Things are starting to look good again with Jack Cork saying how all the players have taken to Ronald Koeman.
Hope Gaston Ramirez can work with Ronald Koeman ashe has so much potential but did not hit it off with Poch.
Probably a two for one deal related to what Saints sold Lallana. Sounds as though Tadic is every bit as good as Lallana and both he and Pelle are able to score goals. Things are starting to look good again with Jack Cork saying how all the players have taken to Ronald Koeman. Hope Gaston Ramirez can work with Ronald Koeman ashe has so much potential but did not hit it off with Poch. Ontario Saint
  • Score: 96

5:08am Sat 5 Jul 14

olddellsaint says...

Sooner rather then later Please. just need to see them in place so that they start with the rest of the team in red and white. C.O.Y.R,s
Sooner rather then later Please. just need to see them in place so that they start with the rest of the team in red and white. C.O.Y.R,s olddellsaint
  • Score: 33

5:35am Sat 5 Jul 14

mickmickmickmickmickmickmills.. says...

I just really hope we don't repeat what happened when we were relegated to the championship and spend too much on mediocrity. I am optimistic about Rk though and these two look promising. I'm really relieved to hear the reports from jack cork about warming to Rk as the team spirit is vital in the months ahead.
I just really hope we don't repeat what happened when we were relegated to the championship and spend too much on mediocrity. I am optimistic about Rk though and these two look promising. I'm really relieved to hear the reports from jack cork about warming to Rk as the team spirit is vital in the months ahead. mickmickmickmickmickmickmills..
  • Score: 26

6:18am Sat 5 Jul 14

Southampton boy says...

Finger cross this come off Monday would be a good day
Finger cross this come off Monday would be a good day Southampton boy
  • Score: 19

7:14am Sat 5 Jul 14

Portswood says...

Very positive news. For anyone a wee bit concerned about Pelle's advancing years, bear in mind that he should still be a top striker for at least the next 2-3 seasons. By that point, Sam Gallagher will have matured into a top-class striker himself. And Jay Rodriguez, touch wood, will have forgotten all about his injury and have become England's best striker by far. Meanwhile, new young strikers will have come through the famed Saints academy and be pushing hard for the first team. Strap yourselves in, folks. It's gonna be a helluva ride!
Very positive news. For anyone a wee bit concerned about Pelle's advancing years, bear in mind that he should still be a top striker for at least the next 2-3 seasons. By that point, Sam Gallagher will have matured into a top-class striker himself. And Jay Rodriguez, touch wood, will have forgotten all about his injury and have become England's best striker by far. Meanwhile, new young strikers will have come through the famed Saints academy and be pushing hard for the first team. Strap yourselves in, folks. It's gonna be a helluva ride! Portswood
  • Score: 59

7:23am Sat 5 Jul 14

THE12THMAN says...

Pay the money and get the deals done before other clubs start sniffing around, COYR+WS .
Pay the money and get the deals done before other clubs start sniffing around, COYR+WS . THE12THMAN
  • Score: 24

7:46am Sat 5 Jul 14

milton road says...

Whilst there is still turmoil and we unfortunately look likely to lose Morgan and Lovren before the season starts we can still put together quite a strong midfield with Cork, Vic, Davis and WP, Ramirez, add to that Tadic if we get him and another quality holding midfield player and we can still be very strong in midfield.
My worry is Tadic and Pelle are getting too publicized and the deals could well be hijacked. Some times you need to bite the bullet and deal.
I still personally believe that Yoshida can do a job for us but we do need a top quality center back possibly two and two left backs. Cole looks set for Roma but he would of been a good signing, giving our younger players a chance to come through.
A lot of our team's play was not just down to coaching or ability it was the sheer fact that they had several players who had played together for several years, few teams have that sort of bond. We have the opportunity to being good players in. we must understand that we are not going to get people with the chance of CL football but we are going to get the batch underneath that aspire to it. Koeman will have a task of building a team that can really make a challenge. Unfortunately every team is a selling team because every player has a price. Ask Chelsea Liverpool they are all selling good players, the art is to get top whack for them.
I think however much it hurt and was sad that Lallana left, it was good business for the club. Without down playing Adam, there are far better midfielders and if we bring in Tadic then we have one at least as good for half the price. If Ramirez gets game time and has matured enough to show his potential we have a better player than Adam at almost half the price. Its the 'if' factor with Ramirez because he has everything when he turns it on.
Five years ago this club almost died, today true we have to rebuild but we are in a far better position than 5 years ago. The current situation is not ideal but its one that can be got over with the right moves we may even be better.
Whilst there is still turmoil and we unfortunately look likely to lose Morgan and Lovren before the season starts we can still put together quite a strong midfield with Cork, Vic, Davis and WP, Ramirez, add to that Tadic if we get him and another quality holding midfield player and we can still be very strong in midfield. My worry is Tadic and Pelle are getting too publicized and the deals could well be hijacked. Some times you need to bite the bullet and deal. I still personally believe that Yoshida can do a job for us but we do need a top quality center back possibly two and two left backs. Cole looks set for Roma but he would of been a good signing, giving our younger players a chance to come through. A lot of our team's play was not just down to coaching or ability it was the sheer fact that they had several players who had played together for several years, few teams have that sort of bond. We have the opportunity to being good players in. we must understand that we are not going to get people with the chance of CL football but we are going to get the batch underneath that aspire to it. Koeman will have a task of building a team that can really make a challenge. Unfortunately every team is a selling team because every player has a price. Ask Chelsea Liverpool they are all selling good players, the art is to get top whack for them. I think however much it hurt and was sad that Lallana left, it was good business for the club. Without down playing Adam, there are far better midfielders and if we bring in Tadic then we have one at least as good for half the price. If Ramirez gets game time and has matured enough to show his potential we have a better player than Adam at almost half the price. Its the 'if' factor with Ramirez because he has everything when he turns it on. Five years ago this club almost died, today true we have to rebuild but we are in a far better position than 5 years ago. The current situation is not ideal but its one that can be got over with the right moves we may even be better. milton road
  • Score: 96

7:52am Sat 5 Jul 14

Saintsayer II says...

Sell the quality players ....................
............but mediocre players = relegation battle from day one
Sell the quality players .................... ............but mediocre players = relegation battle from day one Saintsayer II
  • Score: -64

7:53am Sat 5 Jul 14

donni1437 says...

it's a start, assuming we get them both. I also assume we have irons in other fires.
it's a start, assuming we get them both. I also assume we have irons in other fires. donni1437
  • Score: 18

7:55am Sat 5 Jul 14

Buddy SFC says...

Saintsayer II wrote:
Sell the quality players ....................

............but mediocre players = relegation battle from day one
Yea for Poopey !!!
[quote][p][bold]Saintsayer II[/bold] wrote: Sell the quality players .................... ............but mediocre players = relegation battle from day one[/p][/quote]Yea for Poopey !!! Buddy SFC
  • Score: 19

8:08am Sat 5 Jul 14

long memory says...

Portswood wrote:
Very positive news. For anyone a wee bit concerned about Pelle's advancing years, bear in mind that he should still be a top striker for at least the next 2-3 seasons. By that point, Sam Gallagher will have matured into a top-class striker himself. And Jay Rodriguez, touch wood, will have forgotten all about his injury and have become England's best striker by far. Meanwhile, new young strikers will have come through the famed Saints academy and be pushing hard for the first team. Strap yourselves in, folks. It's gonna be a helluva ride!
Portswood,I like your optimistic view of the future. My main concern is this time next year,will it be a case of déjà vu, and every season thereafter.
We have one of the best academies in Europe where young lads with a modicum of talent will be straining at the leash to join our wonderful academy ,to take full advantage of our state of the art facilities,elevate into the first team,and use it for nothing more than a shop window.
As for the young talent that we are bringing through at the moment,I will be surprised if there are any here in two to three seasons time,unfortunately this is the way it is,we will just be a feeder club for the top six.
God,I hate myself for mailing this negativity having been a supporter of Saints for 56 years,but I honestly think I am talking reality, IMO.
I do hope that JR is planning to stay with us and show some gratitude, and not just be using our wonderful physio and our facilities to get back too full fitness,then want out in January,
After all my pessimism , I wish RK and his staff all the very best,and I am sure he will bring in some exciting players and put a smile back on our faces,making the last few months a distant memory,and hopefully bring NC period of SCHADENFREUDE to an abrupt end, UTS.
[quote][p][bold]Portswood[/bold] wrote: Very positive news. For anyone a wee bit concerned about Pelle's advancing years, bear in mind that he should still be a top striker for at least the next 2-3 seasons. By that point, Sam Gallagher will have matured into a top-class striker himself. And Jay Rodriguez, touch wood, will have forgotten all about his injury and have become England's best striker by far. Meanwhile, new young strikers will have come through the famed Saints academy and be pushing hard for the first team. Strap yourselves in, folks. It's gonna be a helluva ride![/p][/quote]Portswood,I like your optimistic view of the future. My main concern is this time next year,will it be a case of déjà vu, and every season thereafter. We have one of the best academies in Europe where young lads with a modicum of talent will be straining at the leash to join our wonderful academy ,to take full advantage of our state of the art facilities,elevate into the first team,and use it for nothing more than a shop window. As for the young talent that we are bringing through at the moment,I will be surprised if there are any here in two to three seasons time,unfortunately this is the way it is,we will just be a feeder club for the top six. God,I hate myself for mailing this negativity having been a supporter of Saints for 56 years,but I honestly think I am talking reality, IMO. I do hope that JR is planning to stay with us and show some gratitude, and not just be using our wonderful physio and our facilities to get back too full fitness,then want out in January, After all my pessimism , I wish RK and his staff all the very best,and I am sure he will bring in some exciting players and put a smile back on our faces,making the last few months a distant memory,and hopefully bring NC period of SCHADENFREUDE to an abrupt end, UTS. long memory
  • Score: 25

8:12am Sat 5 Jul 14

bathsaints says...

I see that Morgan being quoted as also saying he not returning to training...getting a bit fed up of these players arrogance. What is it behind the scenes that creating this exodus? Is it just lack of ambition or money or an inept board or just player greed? Whatever it is we are going to need some serious rebuilding and we need to do it soon as only 6 weeks until the season starts and so many teams in the past have shown that large scale change takes time to bed in and work. I am encouraged by the appointment of Koeman and players like Cork (who should be captain) saying positive things but be good to hear a clear statement of direction and explanation from the board and even from koeman (how does he feel about the exodus). Lets bring in some quality. We have money and shouldn't settle for average. Players like Caulker, Redmond, Vlar, Delph surely they are players who would see ours as a club that can push on and all be good additions. Looking forward to reading positive stories in the press about our great football club not persistent rumours. Good luck to the new management team we'll be behind you all the way...
I see that Morgan being quoted as also saying he not returning to training...getting a bit fed up of these players arrogance. What is it behind the scenes that creating this exodus? Is it just lack of ambition or money or an inept board or just player greed? Whatever it is we are going to need some serious rebuilding and we need to do it soon as only 6 weeks until the season starts and so many teams in the past have shown that large scale change takes time to bed in and work. I am encouraged by the appointment of Koeman and players like Cork (who should be captain) saying positive things but be good to hear a clear statement of direction and explanation from the board and even from koeman (how does he feel about the exodus). Lets bring in some quality. We have money and shouldn't settle for average. Players like Caulker, Redmond, Vlar, Delph surely they are players who would see ours as a club that can push on and all be good additions. Looking forward to reading positive stories in the press about our great football club not persistent rumours. Good luck to the new management team we'll be behind you all the way... bathsaints
  • Score: 28

8:13am Sat 5 Jul 14

kingsaint76 says...

Now that we've revealed the new kit I expect us to start revealing new players, what's a new player photoshoot without them wearing their new shirt with name on the back!! Holding a scarf just doesn't cut it anymore! Pleased with the players positive comments on the new managerial team, on paper it sounds really strong, Led Read may have his distractors, but this looks a well thought out jigsaw, providing continuity if Koeman doesn't work out or indeed works out too well!! Let's get these two bought and then move on, a goalie, a versatile defender (Martins-Indi?) A direct winger and another centre forward (Ings), release Ramirez's awesome potential and we're sorted!
Now that we've revealed the new kit I expect us to start revealing new players, what's a new player photoshoot without them wearing their new shirt with name on the back!! Holding a scarf just doesn't cut it anymore! Pleased with the players positive comments on the new managerial team, on paper it sounds really strong, Led Read may have his distractors, but this looks a well thought out jigsaw, providing continuity if Koeman doesn't work out or indeed works out too well!! Let's get these two bought and then move on, a goalie, a versatile defender (Martins-Indi?) A direct winger and another centre forward (Ings), release Ramirez's awesome potential and we're sorted! kingsaint76
  • Score: 8

8:20am Sat 5 Jul 14

NC Fan4Life says...

About time, hurry up Les and get them signed up before Morgan comes back today to new players coming in otherwise he will want to go as well as Lovren.
These two will replace Ricky & Adam so we are still one down to equal last seasons squad. We will still need the 4 top players that we needed as well as replacing any departures. So 5 quality players still to be signed plus a replacement for Morgan & Lovren, if RonKo cannot convince them to stay.
Hurry up Les you will miss out on Steven Caulker this weekend if you don't get an offer in, £8m for a future England CB & possible captain is a bargain.
About time, hurry up Les and get them signed up before Morgan comes back today to new players coming in otherwise he will want to go as well as Lovren. These two will replace Ricky & Adam so we are still one down to equal last seasons squad. We will still need the 4 top players that we needed as well as replacing any departures. So 5 quality players still to be signed plus a replacement for Morgan & Lovren, if RonKo cannot convince them to stay. Hurry up Les you will miss out on Steven Caulker this weekend if you don't get an offer in, £8m for a future England CB & possible captain is a bargain. NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 13

8:23am Sat 5 Jul 14

saintsfan76 says...

Any news on whether Danny Ings is interested in moving from Burnley? Would be a good move ready for when Jay Rod is fit again.
Any news on whether Danny Ings is interested in moving from Burnley? Would be a good move ready for when Jay Rod is fit again. saintsfan76
  • Score: 6

8:25am Sat 5 Jul 14

jls217 says...

long memory wrote:
Portswood wrote:
Very positive news. For anyone a wee bit concerned about Pelle's advancing years, bear in mind that he should still be a top striker for at least the next 2-3 seasons. By that point, Sam Gallagher will have matured into a top-class striker himself. And Jay Rodriguez, touch wood, will have forgotten all about his injury and have become England's best striker by far. Meanwhile, new young strikers will have come through the famed Saints academy and be pushing hard for the first team. Strap yourselves in, folks. It's gonna be a helluva ride!
Portswood,I like your optimistic view of the future. My main concern is this time next year,will it be a case of déjà vu, and every season thereafter.
We have one of the best academies in Europe where young lads with a modicum of talent will be straining at the leash to join our wonderful academy ,to take full advantage of our state of the art facilities,elevate into the first team,and use it for nothing more than a shop window.
As for the young talent that we are bringing through at the moment,I will be surprised if there are any here in two to three seasons time,unfortunately this is the way it is,we will just be a feeder club for the top six.
God,I hate myself for mailing this negativity having been a supporter of Saints for 56 years,but I honestly think I am talking reality, IMO.
I do hope that JR is planning to stay with us and show some gratitude, and not just be using our wonderful physio and our facilities to get back too full fitness,then want out in January,
After all my pessimism , I wish RK and his staff all the very best,and I am sure he will bring in some exciting players and put a smile back on our faces,making the last few months a distant memory,and hopefully bring NC period of SCHADENFREUDE to an abrupt end, UTS.
I fear you are right mate. We merely become a shop window for youngsters to put themselves into for a short while. It is a concern and at some point the management are going to have to start rewriting contracts with some real bite in them if a player wants to do a Liarllana on us. Someone on here came up with an idea which needs investigating a dual stage pay deal where half he gets cash and the other half goes into a loyalty pot which he gets at the end of the terms of contract - I like that idea.
[quote][p][bold]long memory[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Portswood[/bold] wrote: Very positive news. For anyone a wee bit concerned about Pelle's advancing years, bear in mind that he should still be a top striker for at least the next 2-3 seasons. By that point, Sam Gallagher will have matured into a top-class striker himself. And Jay Rodriguez, touch wood, will have forgotten all about his injury and have become England's best striker by far. Meanwhile, new young strikers will have come through the famed Saints academy and be pushing hard for the first team. Strap yourselves in, folks. It's gonna be a helluva ride![/p][/quote]Portswood,I like your optimistic view of the future. My main concern is this time next year,will it be a case of déjà vu, and every season thereafter. We have one of the best academies in Europe where young lads with a modicum of talent will be straining at the leash to join our wonderful academy ,to take full advantage of our state of the art facilities,elevate into the first team,and use it for nothing more than a shop window. As for the young talent that we are bringing through at the moment,I will be surprised if there are any here in two to three seasons time,unfortunately this is the way it is,we will just be a feeder club for the top six. God,I hate myself for mailing this negativity having been a supporter of Saints for 56 years,but I honestly think I am talking reality, IMO. I do hope that JR is planning to stay with us and show some gratitude, and not just be using our wonderful physio and our facilities to get back too full fitness,then want out in January, After all my pessimism , I wish RK and his staff all the very best,and I am sure he will bring in some exciting players and put a smile back on our faces,making the last few months a distant memory,and hopefully bring NC period of SCHADENFREUDE to an abrupt end, UTS.[/p][/quote]I fear you are right mate. We merely become a shop window for youngsters to put themselves into for a short while. It is a concern and at some point the management are going to have to start rewriting contracts with some real bite in them if a player wants to do a Liarllana on us. Someone on here came up with an idea which needs investigating a dual stage pay deal where half he gets cash and the other half goes into a loyalty pot which he gets at the end of the terms of contract - I like that idea. jls217
  • Score: 7

8:26am Sat 5 Jul 14

Dorssaints says...

Everyone is being really negative about the departing players, but players such as Tadic and Pelle will be really Hungary to prove themselves on the big stage.
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Too often managers come in and say that they had the previous managers players and struggled. Well RK has the money to buy his own players.
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If you are a supporter do Schallke imagine how they feel being told that their club does not have the financial cloute of the mighty Saints
Everyone is being really negative about the departing players, but players such as Tadic and Pelle will be really Hungary to prove themselves on the big stage. . Too often managers come in and say that they had the previous managers players and struggled. Well RK has the money to buy his own players. . If you are a supporter do Schallke imagine how they feel being told that their club does not have the financial cloute of the mighty Saints Dorssaints
  • Score: 11

8:30am Sat 5 Jul 14

Dorssaints says...

Will Liverpool be the same without Suarez? Just proves we are all selling clubs! COYR! Back in stripes, back in charge
Will Liverpool be the same without Suarez? Just proves we are all selling clubs! COYR! Back in stripes, back in charge Dorssaints
  • Score: 18

8:31am Sat 5 Jul 14

Clever Dick says...

Will the first new player in please switch the lights back on again. If the Spider rumour is true we should be doing the same as we are with Lovren. Not a penny less than £25 million. There isn't a better holding midfielder in the EPL than him and the price should reflect that.
Will the first new player in please switch the lights back on again. If the Spider rumour is true we should be doing the same as we are with Lovren. Not a penny less than £25 million. There isn't a better holding midfielder in the EPL than him and the price should reflect that. Clever Dick
  • Score: 25

8:32am Sat 5 Jul 14

SnapperSaint says...

They both sound as though they are exactly what we need and are well priced, leaving us plenty of cash for a really big signing...if you get my drift...
They both sound as though they are exactly what we need and are well priced, leaving us plenty of cash for a really big signing...if you get my drift... SnapperSaint
  • Score: 10

8:35am Sat 5 Jul 14

SnapperSaint says...

What we really want is JRod's twin partner, JRod from Colombia, now that really would be a great signing! Imagine the two of them in attack for Saints...deadly!
What we really want is JRod's twin partner, JRod from Colombia, now that really would be a great signing! Imagine the two of them in attack for Saints...deadly! SnapperSaint
  • Score: 20

8:36am Sat 5 Jul 14

chapelsaint says...

de heiligen zijn terug in rode en witte strepen
de heiligen zijn terug in rode en witte strepen chapelsaint
  • Score: 3

8:45am Sat 5 Jul 14

Saint Jinx says...

I was thinking that if Pochettino did "throw" the FA cup match then that is match fixing, especially if he did it in the knowledge that he was going to Spurs and to "help" others. I know it is tenuous but it would be great for him to spend his first season in London not at WHL but in Wandsworth jail.
I was thinking that if Pochettino did "throw" the FA cup match then that is match fixing, especially if he did it in the knowledge that he was going to Spurs and to "help" others. I know it is tenuous but it would be great for him to spend his first season in London not at WHL but in Wandsworth jail. Saint Jinx
  • Score: 20

8:46am Sat 5 Jul 14

Jan28th1984 says...

Get on with it - we need lots more players besides these two......
Get on with it - we need lots more players besides these two...... Jan28th1984
  • Score: 2

8:49am Sat 5 Jul 14

pitbull says...

Nobody knows what the new season will bring, that's what makes it so exciting.
Van Gaal, although the media have given him so much hype, could end up being another Moyes.
Liverpool could do a Newcastle and finish mid table. How are they going to cope without Gnashers 25+ goals and 10+ penalties he acted out.
Tottenham could have their worst season in history and change managers several times.
José Mourinho could force his head a bit further up his own jacksey and completely lose direction.
Arsenal could be Arsenal and finish 4th,, again.
Manuel Pellegrini could suffer from second season syndrome.

And Ron Koeman could do what he did at Feyenoord, take a mid-table team and propel them up to the top two.

It might be wishful thinking, but wouldn't it give the big heads a poke in the eye.
Nobody knows what the new season will bring, that's what makes it so exciting. Van Gaal, although the media have given him so much hype, could end up being another Moyes. Liverpool could do a Newcastle and finish mid table. How are they going to cope without Gnashers 25+ goals and 10+ penalties he acted out. Tottenham could have their worst season in history and change managers several times. José Mourinho could force his head a bit further up his own jacksey and completely lose direction. Arsenal could be Arsenal and finish 4th,, again. Manuel Pellegrini could suffer from second season syndrome. And Ron Koeman could do what he did at Feyenoord, take a mid-table team and propel them up to the top two. It might be wishful thinking, but wouldn't it give the big heads a poke in the eye. pitbull
  • Score: 59

8:50am Sat 5 Jul 14

jls217 says...

chapelsaint wrote:
de heiligen zijn terug in rode en witte strepen
Naturlich.
[quote][p][bold]chapelsaint[/bold] wrote: de heiligen zijn terug in rode en witte strepen[/p][/quote]Naturlich. jls217
  • Score: 1

8:51am Sat 5 Jul 14

BarnetSaint says...

God wouldn't it be great if these 2 proved better than lallananus and SRL
As others have said. I long for the day when what ever owner or board we have stop the inevitable exodus of our top academy talent.
We want them to bring success to us not feed the elitist clubs.
God wouldn't it be great if these 2 proved better than lallananus and SRL As others have said. I long for the day when what ever owner or board we have stop the inevitable exodus of our top academy talent. We want them to bring success to us not feed the elitist clubs. BarnetSaint
  • Score: 8

8:54am Sat 5 Jul 14

jls217 says...

saintsfan76 wrote:
Any news on whether Danny Ings is interested in moving from Burnley? Would be a good move ready for when Jay Rod is fit again.
He is quoted on a fansight as saying, he is under contract to Burnley and will just carry on playing until he's told otherwise. He leaves all the speculation and gossip to others and takes no notice of it all.

A player who wants to work to his contract - sign him quick!
[quote][p][bold]saintsfan76[/bold] wrote: Any news on whether Danny Ings is interested in moving from Burnley? Would be a good move ready for when Jay Rod is fit again.[/p][/quote]He is quoted on a fansight as saying, he is under contract to Burnley and will just carry on playing until he's told otherwise. He leaves all the speculation and gossip to others and takes no notice of it all. A player who wants to work to his contract - sign him quick! jls217
  • Score: 22

8:56am Sat 5 Jul 14

jls217 says...

bathsaints wrote:
I see that Morgan being quoted as also saying he not returning to training...getting a bit fed up of these players arrogance. What is it behind the scenes that creating this exodus? Is it just lack of ambition or money or an inept board or just player greed? Whatever it is we are going to need some serious rebuilding and we need to do it soon as only 6 weeks until the season starts and so many teams in the past have shown that large scale change takes time to bed in and work. I am encouraged by the appointment of Koeman and players like Cork (who should be captain) saying positive things but be good to hear a clear statement of direction and explanation from the board and even from koeman (how does he feel about the exodus). Lets bring in some quality. We have money and shouldn't settle for average. Players like Caulker, Redmond, Vlar, Delph surely they are players who would see ours as a club that can push on and all be good additions. Looking forward to reading positive stories in the press about our great football club not persistent rumours. Good luck to the new management team we'll be behind you all the way...
Not seen anything like this form Morgan - please. please be wrong. Where did you see this mate?
They seem to have learned a lot from their former captain eh!?
[quote][p][bold]bathsaints[/bold] wrote: I see that Morgan being quoted as also saying he not returning to training...getting a bit fed up of these players arrogance. What is it behind the scenes that creating this exodus? Is it just lack of ambition or money or an inept board or just player greed? Whatever it is we are going to need some serious rebuilding and we need to do it soon as only 6 weeks until the season starts and so many teams in the past have shown that large scale change takes time to bed in and work. I am encouraged by the appointment of Koeman and players like Cork (who should be captain) saying positive things but be good to hear a clear statement of direction and explanation from the board and even from koeman (how does he feel about the exodus). Lets bring in some quality. We have money and shouldn't settle for average. Players like Caulker, Redmond, Vlar, Delph surely they are players who would see ours as a club that can push on and all be good additions. Looking forward to reading positive stories in the press about our great football club not persistent rumours. Good luck to the new management team we'll be behind you all the way...[/p][/quote]Not seen anything like this form Morgan - please. please be wrong. Where did you see this mate? They seem to have learned a lot from their former captain eh!? jls217
  • Score: 0

8:58am Sat 5 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Quote: Sevilla, who are also interested in the player, are said to have declared defeat in the race as they cannot match Saints’ financial power.
Who would have thought we would see a quote like this in June 2009?

However I suggest the reason that it is taking time to sign new players is more to do with making the right choices, some on here want panic buying and we all know how wrong that can go. Concentrate on keeping what we have got and then strengthen the squad to maintain the balance, we narrowly failed to reach the main goal last year because we had insufficient depth to cover unexpected injuries.
Quote: Sevilla, who are also interested in the player, are said to have declared defeat in the race as they cannot match Saints’ financial power. Who would have thought we would see a quote like this in June 2009? However I suggest the reason that it is taking time to sign new players is more to do with making the right choices, some on here want panic buying and we all know how wrong that can go. Concentrate on keeping what we have got and then strengthen the squad to maintain the balance, we narrowly failed to reach the main goal last year because we had insufficient depth to cover unexpected injuries. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 12

8:59am Sat 5 Jul 14

St Van Roetford says...

SnapperSaint wrote:
What we really want is JRod's twin partner, JRod from Colombia, now that really would be a great signing! Imagine the two of them in attack for Saints...deadly!
Never gonna happen, obvs, but with all the money we have I'd be disappointed if we didn't sign at least one player in the £30m price bracket. I still think we'll need another top class striker as we'll only have Pelle, J-Rod and Gallagher who, with the best will in the world, is still a work in progress.

We have Wanyama and Cork already so I don't think Spidey needs a direct replacement should the worst happen (especially so as we really need to start playing with just the one defensive midfielder in order to give us more attacking options higher up the pitch).

So other than that it's just a left back, a beast of a centre half and a less injury-prone keeper and we're pretty much there. It's not an impossible task.
[quote][p][bold]SnapperSaint[/bold] wrote: What we really want is JRod's twin partner, JRod from Colombia, now that really would be a great signing! Imagine the two of them in attack for Saints...deadly![/p][/quote]Never gonna happen, obvs, but with all the money we have I'd be disappointed if we didn't sign at least one player in the £30m price bracket. I still think we'll need another top class striker as we'll only have Pelle, J-Rod and Gallagher who, with the best will in the world, is still a work in progress. We have Wanyama and Cork already so I don't think Spidey needs a direct replacement should the worst happen (especially so as we really need to start playing with just the one defensive midfielder in order to give us more attacking options higher up the pitch). So other than that it's just a left back, a beast of a centre half and a less injury-prone keeper and we're pretty much there. It's not an impossible task. St Van Roetford
  • Score: 11

9:17am Sat 5 Jul 14

long memory says...

BarnetSaint wrote:
God wouldn't it be great if these 2 proved better than lallananus and SRL
As others have said. I long for the day when what ever owner or board we have stop the inevitable exodus of our top academy talent.
We want them to bring success to us not feed the elitist clubs.
Trouble is with that Barnet Saint,I believe at the age of 17,these players have the right to sign for the club that has nurtured them for many years,or walk away,as did Walcott,and despite all the flack R Lowe got,he had no choice but to sell him for the best price he could,or it would have gone to a tribunal,and we would have received less than a £1million,as I believe at the time £600,000 was the most ever payed out by a tribunal.
Think ourselves lucky that this time last year Luke Shaw didn't do the same,and we would have received a pittance of his value.
The issue is a lot of the top managers and scouts are watching our youth team with eagle eyes,and will try and poach them before their 17th birthday,as AW did.
[quote][p][bold]BarnetSaint[/bold] wrote: God wouldn't it be great if these 2 proved better than lallananus and SRL As others have said. I long for the day when what ever owner or board we have stop the inevitable exodus of our top academy talent. We want them to bring success to us not feed the elitist clubs.[/p][/quote]Trouble is with that Barnet Saint,I believe at the age of 17,these players have the right to sign for the club that has nurtured them for many years,or walk away,as did Walcott,and despite all the flack R Lowe got,he had no choice but to sell him for the best price he could,or it would have gone to a tribunal,and we would have received less than a £1million,as I believe at the time £600,000 was the most ever payed out by a tribunal. Think ourselves lucky that this time last year Luke Shaw didn't do the same,and we would have received a pittance of his value. The issue is a lot of the top managers and scouts are watching our youth team with eagle eyes,and will try and poach them before their 17th birthday,as AW did. long memory
  • Score: 10

9:21am Sat 5 Jul 14

NC Fan4Life says...

There is an increasing opinion on this and other posts of late that we are beginning to realize that it is highly unlikely that Saints can become a CL team for the following reasons:-
1. As soon as we have players that show they are good enough to play in the CL they will want to leave & go to a club to play in it. Yes there is a money factor but there is also the players ambition to play at the highest level possible. Unfortunately Saints can't offer that all the time we keep selling our top young stars.
Adam & Luke understood that and with them leaving Lovren and unfortunately Morgan will demand to go. I don't think we can blame them because they are both capable of playing at a higher level than Saints can offer.
2. Like it or not we are not considered to be a top six club especially with the small capacity and gates compared with the top clubs. We will need to not only expand the ground to a 50k capacity but also attract an average 48k crowd if it is possible.
3. We do need to only buy the best quality players we can and maximize their price when we do sell. The incoming players must be at least of equal quality to those we sell. Buying mediocre players will be our downfall. We will have mediocre players coming out of our academy (as well as the odd stars) so no need to waste money buying average ones.

As good as we have become and even with the good appointment of the Koeman Bros, we cannot expect them to improve us much more than our current level at best. If they do then our best players will want to move on.

Still most of us are starting to realize the situation and thankful that our owners & board are at least showing that we intend to stay a top half team. We will always loose a couple of players each season wanting to move on to a bigger club given the chance but if we can buy & develop their replacements there is no reason why we cannot maintain that level and hope for good cup runs. With two or three still expected to leave I don't expect that we will loose 5 or 6 stars every season.

I have been an optimistic season ticket holder since the mid sixties and having experienced the downs of late to see us rise to this level, I now realize that this could be as good as it gets. Five years ago facing extinction I would have given an arm & leg to be in the position we are now and playing the type of football that we are.

My hope (& my heart) is that RonKo keeps the good quality football flowing and that he is successful and stays with us for a long term. Then there may be a chance that he can build a good team again and keep some of the new stars to maybe just maybe step up into the top six or at least win a few cups.

The important things are to maximize the use our excellent training facility and academy (paid for by the sell of Luke Shaw) and keep producing & improving young players. Stay in a good financial position and play good attractive football in the top half of the Premiership.

In other words the tide went out and we came roaring back on the crest of a wave but we now have to accept that we just ride them from here on.

COYS Lets have another entertaining season we will at least some great players come AND go in the process.
There is an increasing opinion on this and other posts of late that we are beginning to realize that it is highly unlikely that Saints can become a CL team for the following reasons:- 1. As soon as we have players that show they are good enough to play in the CL they will want to leave & go to a club to play in it. Yes there is a money factor but there is also the players ambition to play at the highest level possible. Unfortunately Saints can't offer that all the time we keep selling our top young stars. Adam & Luke understood that and with them leaving Lovren and unfortunately Morgan will demand to go. I don't think we can blame them because they are both capable of playing at a higher level than Saints can offer. 2. Like it or not we are not considered to be a top six club especially with the small capacity and gates compared with the top clubs. We will need to not only expand the ground to a 50k capacity but also attract an average 48k crowd if it is possible. 3. We do need to only buy the best quality players we can and maximize their price when we do sell. The incoming players must be at least of equal quality to those we sell. Buying mediocre players will be our downfall. We will have mediocre players coming out of our academy (as well as the odd stars) so no need to waste money buying average ones. As good as we have become and even with the good appointment of the Koeman Bros, we cannot expect them to improve us much more than our current level at best. If they do then our best players will want to move on. Still most of us are starting to realize the situation and thankful that our owners & board are at least showing that we intend to stay a top half team. We will always loose a couple of players each season wanting to move on to a bigger club given the chance but if we can buy & develop their replacements there is no reason why we cannot maintain that level and hope for good cup runs. With two or three still expected to leave I don't expect that we will loose 5 or 6 stars every season. I have been an optimistic season ticket holder since the mid sixties and having experienced the downs of late to see us rise to this level, I now realize that this could be as good as it gets. Five years ago facing extinction I would have given an arm & leg to be in the position we are now and playing the type of football that we are. My hope (& my heart) is that RonKo keeps the good quality football flowing and that he is successful and stays with us for a long term. Then there may be a chance that he can build a good team again and keep some of the new stars to maybe just maybe step up into the top six or at least win a few cups. The important things are to maximize the use our excellent training facility and academy (paid for by the sell of Luke Shaw) and keep producing & improving young players. Stay in a good financial position and play good attractive football in the top half of the Premiership. In other words the tide went out and we came roaring back on the crest of a wave but we now have to accept that we just ride them from here on. COYS Lets have another entertaining season we will at least some great players come AND go in the process. NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 26

9:23am Sat 5 Jul 14

bathsaints says...

jls217 wrote:
bathsaints wrote:
I see that Morgan being quoted as also saying he not returning to training...getting a bit fed up of these players arrogance. What is it behind the scenes that creating this exodus? Is it just lack of ambition or money or an inept board or just player greed? Whatever it is we are going to need some serious rebuilding and we need to do it soon as only 6 weeks until the season starts and so many teams in the past have shown that large scale change takes time to bed in and work. I am encouraged by the appointment of Koeman and players like Cork (who should be captain) saying positive things but be good to hear a clear statement of direction and explanation from the board and even from koeman (how does he feel about the exodus). Lets bring in some quality. We have money and shouldn't settle for average. Players like Caulker, Redmond, Vlar, Delph surely they are players who would see ours as a club that can push on and all be good additions. Looking forward to reading positive stories in the press about our great football club not persistent rumours. Good luck to the new management team we'll be behind you all the way...
Not seen anything like this form Morgan - please. please be wrong. Where did you see this mate?
They seem to have learned a lot from their former captain eh!?
It is on the bbc gossip site
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bathsaints[/bold] wrote: I see that Morgan being quoted as also saying he not returning to training...getting a bit fed up of these players arrogance. What is it behind the scenes that creating this exodus? Is it just lack of ambition or money or an inept board or just player greed? Whatever it is we are going to need some serious rebuilding and we need to do it soon as only 6 weeks until the season starts and so many teams in the past have shown that large scale change takes time to bed in and work. I am encouraged by the appointment of Koeman and players like Cork (who should be captain) saying positive things but be good to hear a clear statement of direction and explanation from the board and even from koeman (how does he feel about the exodus). Lets bring in some quality. We have money and shouldn't settle for average. Players like Caulker, Redmond, Vlar, Delph surely they are players who would see ours as a club that can push on and all be good additions. Looking forward to reading positive stories in the press about our great football club not persistent rumours. Good luck to the new management team we'll be behind you all the way...[/p][/quote]Not seen anything like this form Morgan - please. please be wrong. Where did you see this mate? They seem to have learned a lot from their former captain eh!?[/p][/quote]It is on the bbc gossip site bathsaints
  • Score: 3

9:23am Sat 5 Jul 14

LightwaterSaint says...

Why does it take Saints FC so long to do a deal? We have known about Tadic and Pelle seemingly for weeks now and still no official news from SMS. Even the appointment of the new manager was a drawn out affair.

Unfortunately, whilst Tadic and Pelle seem to be good signings, we are gong to need far more than just those two.

Come on Les - No more smokes screens, It's times to actually spend some of that money! Can't you see us loyal Saints fans are suffering with the mass exodus of our best players who, incidentally, were supposedly not for sale.

On that point we have money in the bank. Let Lovren and Speiderman go on strike and let them rot in the reserves. The pair of them have short memories of who made them. That might change their attitude if the club holds firm up to the end of the transfer window. It's appalling that they haven't even spoken to RK and listened to his plans for the team. Suggesting a desire to play in the Champions League is a load of crap. Like that guy who put a full page advert in the Echo, one good season and they think they are the dog' s hanging bits.

COYS
Why does it take Saints FC so long to do a deal? We have known about Tadic and Pelle seemingly for weeks now and still no official news from SMS. Even the appointment of the new manager was a drawn out affair. Unfortunately, whilst Tadic and Pelle seem to be good signings, we are gong to need far more than just those two. Come on Les - No more smokes screens, It's times to actually spend some of that money! Can't you see us loyal Saints fans are suffering with the mass exodus of our best players who, incidentally, were supposedly not for sale. On that point we have money in the bank. Let Lovren and Speiderman go on strike and let them rot in the reserves. The pair of them have short memories of who made them. That might change their attitude if the club holds firm up to the end of the transfer window. It's appalling that they haven't even spoken to RK and listened to his plans for the team. Suggesting a desire to play in the Champions League is a load of crap. Like that guy who put a full page advert in the Echo, one good season and they think they are the dog' s hanging bits. COYS LightwaterSaint
  • Score: 13

9:25am Sat 5 Jul 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Jan28th1984 wrote:
Get on with it - we need lots more players besides these two......
Would also like to see talk of a goalkeeper.
[quote][p][bold]Jan28th1984[/bold] wrote: Get on with it - we need lots more players besides these two......[/p][/quote]Would also like to see talk of a goalkeeper. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 3

9:30am Sat 5 Jul 14

long memory says...

bathsaints wrote:
I see that Morgan being quoted as also saying he not returning to training...getting a bit fed up of these players arrogance. What is it behind the scenes that creating this exodus? Is it just lack of ambition or money or an inept board or just player greed? Whatever it is we are going to need some serious rebuilding and we need to do it soon as only 6 weeks until the season starts and so many teams in the past have shown that large scale change takes time to bed in and work. I am encouraged by the appointment of Koeman and players like Cork (who should be captain) saying positive things but be good to hear a clear statement of direction and explanation from the board and even from koeman (how does he feel about the exodus). Lets bring in some quality. We have money and shouldn't settle for average. Players like Caulker, Redmond, Vlar, Delph surely they are players who would see ours as a club that can push on and all be good additions. Looking forward to reading positive stories in the press about our great football club not persistent rumours. Good luck to the new management team we'll be behind you all the way...
Bathsaint,there is defiantly a familiar theme running through the departure of the Saints squad.Someone must have been doing a lot of stirring behind the scenes,either from the very top or further down.
The big exodus to Liverhampton is no coincidence,IMO been planned for months,and I don't think that RL is as innocent as people suggest in all this ,just my opinion.
[quote][p][bold]bathsaints[/bold] wrote: I see that Morgan being quoted as also saying he not returning to training...getting a bit fed up of these players arrogance. What is it behind the scenes that creating this exodus? Is it just lack of ambition or money or an inept board or just player greed? Whatever it is we are going to need some serious rebuilding and we need to do it soon as only 6 weeks until the season starts and so many teams in the past have shown that large scale change takes time to bed in and work. I am encouraged by the appointment of Koeman and players like Cork (who should be captain) saying positive things but be good to hear a clear statement of direction and explanation from the board and even from koeman (how does he feel about the exodus). Lets bring in some quality. We have money and shouldn't settle for average. Players like Caulker, Redmond, Vlar, Delph surely they are players who would see ours as a club that can push on and all be good additions. Looking forward to reading positive stories in the press about our great football club not persistent rumours. Good luck to the new management team we'll be behind you all the way...[/p][/quote]Bathsaint,there is defiantly a familiar theme running through the departure of the Saints squad.Someone must have been doing a lot of stirring behind the scenes,either from the very top or further down. The big exodus to Liverhampton is no coincidence,IMO been planned for months,and I don't think that RL is as innocent as people suggest in all this ,just my opinion. long memory
  • Score: 15

9:33am Sat 5 Jul 14

saintbobby says...

chapelsaint wrote:
de heiligen zijn terug in rode en witte strepen
Excellent news! Thank you Google although I got the last few words all on my own! They are almost English. Happy days.
[quote][p][bold]chapelsaint[/bold] wrote: de heiligen zijn terug in rode en witte strepen[/p][/quote]Excellent news! Thank you Google although I got the last few words all on my own! They are almost English. Happy days. saintbobby
  • Score: 3

9:43am Sat 5 Jul 14

Positively4thStreet says...

long memory wrote:
bathsaints wrote:
I see that Morgan being quoted as also saying he not returning to training...getting a bit fed up of these players arrogance. What is it behind the scenes that creating this exodus? Is it just lack of ambition or money or an inept board or just player greed? Whatever it is we are going to need some serious rebuilding and we need to do it soon as only 6 weeks until the season starts and so many teams in the past have shown that large scale change takes time to bed in and work. I am encouraged by the appointment of Koeman and players like Cork (who should be captain) saying positive things but be good to hear a clear statement of direction and explanation from the board and even from koeman (how does he feel about the exodus). Lets bring in some quality. We have money and shouldn't settle for average. Players like Caulker, Redmond, Vlar, Delph surely they are players who would see ours as a club that can push on and all be good additions. Looking forward to reading positive stories in the press about our great football club not persistent rumours. Good luck to the new management team we'll be behind you all the way...
Bathsaint,there is defiantly a familiar theme running through the departure of the Saints squad.Someone must have been doing a lot of stirring behind the scenes,either from the very top or further down.
The big exodus to Liverhampton is no coincidence,IMO been planned for months,and I don't think that RL is as innocent as people suggest in all this ,just my opinion.
Lineker,Hansen and Shearer all knew about it at the end of last season.
[quote][p][bold]long memory[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bathsaints[/bold] wrote: I see that Morgan being quoted as also saying he not returning to training...getting a bit fed up of these players arrogance. What is it behind the scenes that creating this exodus? Is it just lack of ambition or money or an inept board or just player greed? Whatever it is we are going to need some serious rebuilding and we need to do it soon as only 6 weeks until the season starts and so many teams in the past have shown that large scale change takes time to bed in and work. I am encouraged by the appointment of Koeman and players like Cork (who should be captain) saying positive things but be good to hear a clear statement of direction and explanation from the board and even from koeman (how does he feel about the exodus). Lets bring in some quality. We have money and shouldn't settle for average. Players like Caulker, Redmond, Vlar, Delph surely they are players who would see ours as a club that can push on and all be good additions. Looking forward to reading positive stories in the press about our great football club not persistent rumours. Good luck to the new management team we'll be behind you all the way...[/p][/quote]Bathsaint,there is defiantly a familiar theme running through the departure of the Saints squad.Someone must have been doing a lot of stirring behind the scenes,either from the very top or further down. The big exodus to Liverhampton is no coincidence,IMO been planned for months,and I don't think that RL is as innocent as people suggest in all this ,just my opinion.[/p][/quote]Lineker,Hansen and Shearer all knew about it at the end of last season. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 2

9:44am Sat 5 Jul 14

Swissowned says...

Ffs. Please stop reporting nothing stories daily echo. What is actually new news in this story? Nothing!

How about posting another story at midday to say the deal is even closer? And then another one at tea time to say it's closer still!!

I'm so bored of these shoddy space filling stories. Pointless! :(
Ffs. Please stop reporting nothing stories daily echo. What is actually new news in this story? Nothing! How about posting another story at midday to say the deal is even closer? And then another one at tea time to say it's closer still!! I'm so bored of these shoddy space filling stories. Pointless! :( Swissowned
  • Score: -2

9:47am Sat 5 Jul 14

Sammy2sheds says...

THE12THMAN wrote:
Pay the money and get the deals done before other clubs start sniffing around, COYR+WS .
Yeah I don't think we have to worry on that score.
[quote][p][bold]THE12THMAN[/bold] wrote: Pay the money and get the deals done before other clubs start sniffing around, COYR+WS .[/p][/quote]Yeah I don't think we have to worry on that score. Sammy2sheds
  • Score: -1

10:01am Sat 5 Jul 14

Chapperall says...

It would seem that many of the players that have left or still want to leave cooked this up before they left on World Cup duty. Really disappointed with this as we treated them like heroes at the end of the season, plus it was Saints that gave them the step up to play for their national teams. However it would seem that in football there is no such thing as being held to a contract, or being loyal to your club. The thing I can't get my head around is why no other club is being effected like this with masses of players wanting to leave! Is there something fundamentally wrong going on inside the club or was this all prearranged with Poch?
Either way we need to start bring in these players as I fear for the next season otherwise.
It would seem that many of the players that have left or still want to leave cooked this up before they left on World Cup duty. Really disappointed with this as we treated them like heroes at the end of the season, plus it was Saints that gave them the step up to play for their national teams. However it would seem that in football there is no such thing as being held to a contract, or being loyal to your club. The thing I can't get my head around is why no other club is being effected like this with masses of players wanting to leave! Is there something fundamentally wrong going on inside the club or was this all prearranged with Poch? Either way we need to start bring in these players as I fear for the next season otherwise. Chapperall
  • Score: 6

10:10am Sat 5 Jul 14

long memory says...

NC Fan4Life wrote:
There is an increasing opinion on this and other posts of late that we are beginning to realize that it is highly unlikely that Saints can become a CL team for the following reasons:-
1. As soon as we have players that show they are good enough to play in the CL they will want to leave & go to a club to play in it. Yes there is a money factor but there is also the players ambition to play at the highest level possible. Unfortunately Saints can't offer that all the time we keep selling our top young stars.
Adam & Luke understood that and with them leaving Lovren and unfortunately Morgan will demand to go. I don't think we can blame them because they are both capable of playing at a higher level than Saints can offer.
2. Like it or not we are not considered to be a top six club especially with the small capacity and gates compared with the top clubs. We will need to not only expand the ground to a 50k capacity but also attract an average 48k crowd if it is possible.
3. We do need to only buy the best quality players we can and maximize their price when we do sell. The incoming players must be at least of equal quality to those we sell. Buying mediocre players will be our downfall. We will have mediocre players coming out of our academy (as well as the odd stars) so no need to waste money buying average ones.

As good as we have become and even with the good appointment of the Koeman Bros, we cannot expect them to improve us much more than our current level at best. If they do then our best players will want to move on.

Still most of us are starting to realize the situation and thankful that our owners & board are at least showing that we intend to stay a top half team. We will always loose a couple of players each season wanting to move on to a bigger club given the chance but if we can buy & develop their replacements there is no reason why we cannot maintain that level and hope for good cup runs. With two or three still expected to leave I don't expect that we will loose 5 or 6 stars every season.

I have been an optimistic season ticket holder since the mid sixties and having experienced the downs of late to see us rise to this level, I now realize that this could be as good as it gets. Five years ago facing extinction I would have given an arm & leg to be in the position we are now and playing the type of football that we are.

My hope (& my heart) is that RonKo keeps the good quality football flowing and that he is successful and stays with us for a long term. Then there may be a chance that he can build a good team again and keep some of the new stars to maybe just maybe step up into the top six or at least win a few cups.

The important things are to maximize the use our excellent training facility and academy (paid for by the sell of Luke Shaw) and keep producing & improving young players. Stay in a good financial position and play good attractive football in the top half of the Premiership.

In other words the tide went out and we came roaring back on the crest of a wave but we now have to accept that we just ride them from here on.

COYS Lets have another entertaining season we will at least some great players come AND go in the process.
Agree NC.
Regarding the 50K capacity stadium,it would be nice,but as you intimate,but you have to fill it,and I don't think you would.
The only feasible way to achieve that is to build a new stadium on the old Ford site,enabling the best infrastructure you could possibly wish for with the airport,train station and motorway,I think it would increase the catchment area by a good percentage, and increase the gate capacity.
I was never happy with where St Mary's was built from day one,though thanks mainly to Eastleigh Council,it was a case of 'Hobsons Choice'.
St Mary's is not an amenable stadium to get to,and to talk of building extra stands onto it is ludicrous,just think of the snarl up it would cause.
I have friends who have said they would buy a season ticket if the ground wasn't in such a stupid area,so unless you live in Southampton,which I and many others don't,meaning you have to leave home early,just to get parked.
[quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: There is an increasing opinion on this and other posts of late that we are beginning to realize that it is highly unlikely that Saints can become a CL team for the following reasons:- 1. As soon as we have players that show they are good enough to play in the CL they will want to leave & go to a club to play in it. Yes there is a money factor but there is also the players ambition to play at the highest level possible. Unfortunately Saints can't offer that all the time we keep selling our top young stars. Adam & Luke understood that and with them leaving Lovren and unfortunately Morgan will demand to go. I don't think we can blame them because they are both capable of playing at a higher level than Saints can offer. 2. Like it or not we are not considered to be a top six club especially with the small capacity and gates compared with the top clubs. We will need to not only expand the ground to a 50k capacity but also attract an average 48k crowd if it is possible. 3. We do need to only buy the best quality players we can and maximize their price when we do sell. The incoming players must be at least of equal quality to those we sell. Buying mediocre players will be our downfall. We will have mediocre players coming out of our academy (as well as the odd stars) so no need to waste money buying average ones. As good as we have become and even with the good appointment of the Koeman Bros, we cannot expect them to improve us much more than our current level at best. If they do then our best players will want to move on. Still most of us are starting to realize the situation and thankful that our owners & board are at least showing that we intend to stay a top half team. We will always loose a couple of players each season wanting to move on to a bigger club given the chance but if we can buy & develop their replacements there is no reason why we cannot maintain that level and hope for good cup runs. With two or three still expected to leave I don't expect that we will loose 5 or 6 stars every season. I have been an optimistic season ticket holder since the mid sixties and having experienced the downs of late to see us rise to this level, I now realize that this could be as good as it gets. Five years ago facing extinction I would have given an arm & leg to be in the position we are now and playing the type of football that we are. My hope (& my heart) is that RonKo keeps the good quality football flowing and that he is successful and stays with us for a long term. Then there may be a chance that he can build a good team again and keep some of the new stars to maybe just maybe step up into the top six or at least win a few cups. The important things are to maximize the use our excellent training facility and academy (paid for by the sell of Luke Shaw) and keep producing & improving young players. Stay in a good financial position and play good attractive football in the top half of the Premiership. In other words the tide went out and we came roaring back on the crest of a wave but we now have to accept that we just ride them from here on. COYS Lets have another entertaining season we will at least some great players come AND go in the process.[/p][/quote]Agree NC. Regarding the 50K capacity stadium,it would be nice,but as you intimate,but you have to fill it,and I don't think you would. The only feasible way to achieve that is to build a new stadium on the old Ford site,enabling the best infrastructure you could possibly wish for with the airport,train station and motorway,I think it would increase the catchment area by a good percentage, and increase the gate capacity. I was never happy with where St Mary's was built from day one,though thanks mainly to Eastleigh Council,it was a case of 'Hobsons Choice'. St Mary's is not an amenable stadium to get to,and to talk of building extra stands onto it is ludicrous,just think of the snarl up it would cause. I have friends who have said they would buy a season ticket if the ground wasn't in such a stupid area,so unless you live in Southampton,which I and many others don't,meaning you have to leave home early,just to get parked. long memory
  • Score: 13

10:11am Sat 5 Jul 14

Confucious says...

Get rid of Lovren ASAP. No point in keeping £20m sat in the reserves p!ssing everyone else off.

He looks well suited to Liverpool - the world's most powerful @rsehole magnet.
Get rid of Lovren ASAP. No point in keeping £20m sat in the reserves p!ssing everyone else off. He looks well suited to Liverpool - the world's most powerful @rsehole magnet. Confucious
  • Score: 22

10:15am Sat 5 Jul 14

steekeemcglue says...

Confucious wrote:
Get rid of Lovren ASAP. No point in keeping £20m sat in the reserves p!ssing everyone else off.

He looks well suited to Liverpool - the world's most powerful @rsehole magnet.
well said... get rid.... £20M and we are laughing.... There are loads of £8M centre-halves floating around European clubs who would do maybe not quite as good a job on his best days , but certainly would not doze off like he did in a few games....
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Get rid of Lovren ASAP. No point in keeping £20m sat in the reserves p!ssing everyone else off. He looks well suited to Liverpool - the world's most powerful @rsehole magnet.[/p][/quote]well said... get rid.... £20M and we are laughing.... There are loads of £8M centre-halves floating around European clubs who would do maybe not quite as good a job on his best days , but certainly would not doze off like he did in a few games.... steekeemcglue
  • Score: 8

10:19am Sat 5 Jul 14

Bazultra says...

bathsaints wrote:
I see that Morgan being quoted as also saying he not returning to training...getting a bit fed up of these players arrogance. What is it behind the scenes that creating this exodus? Is it just lack of ambition or money or an inept board or just player greed? Whatever it is we are going to need some serious rebuilding and we need to do it soon as only 6 weeks until the season starts and so many teams in the past have shown that large scale change takes time to bed in and work. I am encouraged by the appointment of Koeman and players like Cork (who should be captain) saying positive things but be good to hear a clear statement of direction and explanation from the board and even from koeman (how does he feel about the exodus). Lets bring in some quality. We have money and shouldn't settle for average. Players like Caulker, Redmond, Vlar, Delph surely they are players who would see ours as a club that can push on and all be good additions. Looking forward to reading positive stories in the press about our great football club not persistent rumours. Good luck to the new management team we'll be behind you all the way...
These players who are not prepared to show up and train need to grow apair. Just underlines how gutless some of these so called professioanals are. Would love to get Morgan or Lovren in the cage and give them a good kicking. I would fight them for free but they would probably be trying to squeeze through the bars to get out. ****!!! COYR
[quote][p][bold]bathsaints[/bold] wrote: I see that Morgan being quoted as also saying he not returning to training...getting a bit fed up of these players arrogance. What is it behind the scenes that creating this exodus? Is it just lack of ambition or money or an inept board or just player greed? Whatever it is we are going to need some serious rebuilding and we need to do it soon as only 6 weeks until the season starts and so many teams in the past have shown that large scale change takes time to bed in and work. I am encouraged by the appointment of Koeman and players like Cork (who should be captain) saying positive things but be good to hear a clear statement of direction and explanation from the board and even from koeman (how does he feel about the exodus). Lets bring in some quality. We have money and shouldn't settle for average. Players like Caulker, Redmond, Vlar, Delph surely they are players who would see ours as a club that can push on and all be good additions. Looking forward to reading positive stories in the press about our great football club not persistent rumours. Good luck to the new management team we'll be behind you all the way...[/p][/quote]These players who are not prepared to show up and train need to grow apair. Just underlines how gutless some of these so called professioanals are. Would love to get Morgan or Lovren in the cage and give them a good kicking. I would fight them for free but they would probably be trying to squeeze through the bars to get out. ****!!! COYR Bazultra
  • Score: 6

10:22am Sat 5 Jul 14

Bazultra says...

Just as well these players who are leaving are not fighters because I would love to beat some sense into them. COYR
Just as well these players who are leaving are not fighters because I would love to beat some sense into them. COYR Bazultra
  • Score: 5

10:22am Sat 5 Jul 14

SodburySaint93 says...

Chapperall wrote:
It would seem that many of the players that have left or still want to leave cooked this up before they left on World Cup duty. Really disappointed with this as we treated them like heroes at the end of the season, plus it was Saints that gave them the step up to play for their national teams. However it would seem that in football there is no such thing as being held to a contract, or being loyal to your club. The thing I can't get my head around is why no other club is being effected like this with masses of players wanting to leave! Is there something fundamentally wrong going on inside the club or was this all prearranged with Poch?
Either way we need to start bring in these players as I fear for the next season otherwise.
Can't believe we have lost our manager, coaches, 3 star players (and possibly 3 more to go) and that's after finishing 8th in the league.

God knows what would have happened if we had finished lower -


Like 9th !!!!!!
[quote][p][bold]Chapperall[/bold] wrote: It would seem that many of the players that have left or still want to leave cooked this up before they left on World Cup duty. Really disappointed with this as we treated them like heroes at the end of the season, plus it was Saints that gave them the step up to play for their national teams. However it would seem that in football there is no such thing as being held to a contract, or being loyal to your club. The thing I can't get my head around is why no other club is being effected like this with masses of players wanting to leave! Is there something fundamentally wrong going on inside the club or was this all prearranged with Poch? Either way we need to start bring in these players as I fear for the next season otherwise.[/p][/quote]Can't believe we have lost our manager, coaches, 3 star players (and possibly 3 more to go) and that's after finishing 8th in the league. God knows what would have happened if we had finished lower - Like 9th !!!!!! SodburySaint93
  • Score: 9

10:30am Sat 5 Jul 14

soton10 says...

Good news if Pelle and Tadic sign. Bring in some English talent as well; Caulker, Jamaal Lascelles and Will Hughes.
Good news if Pelle and Tadic sign. Bring in some English talent as well; Caulker, Jamaal Lascelles and Will Hughes. soton10
  • Score: 5

10:32am Sat 5 Jul 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

Bazultra wrote:
Just as well these players who are leaving are not fighters because I would love to beat some sense into them. COYR
STRIKE-FIGHT-WIN

Red and White Army - We Hate Pompey !!

Understand the SENTIMENT - ECHO Agrees with Fans that the 3 Wantaway Players (now booted OUT) have entered the SFC HALL OF SHAME .... COYR+WS
[quote][p][bold]Bazultra[/bold] wrote: Just as well these players who are leaving are not fighters because I would love to beat some sense into them. COYR[/p][/quote]STRIKE-FIGHT-WIN Red and White Army - We Hate Pompey !! Understand the SENTIMENT - ECHO Agrees with Fans that the 3 Wantaway Players (now booted OUT) have entered the SFC HALL OF SHAME .... COYR+WS The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 5

10:33am Sat 5 Jul 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

Double Signings = Double Joy.

News of a First Class Keeper also required this week.
Double Signings = Double Joy. News of a First Class Keeper also required this week. The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 2

10:41am Sat 5 Jul 14

soton10 says...

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. wrote:
Double Signings = Double Joy.

News of a First Class Keeper also required this week.
Agreed. I'd like to see Fraser Forster in.
[quote][p][bold]The Rise of The Foot Soldier.[/bold] wrote: Double Signings = Double Joy. News of a First Class Keeper also required this week.[/p][/quote]Agreed. I'd like to see Fraser Forster in. soton10
  • Score: 6

10:44am Sat 5 Jul 14

InCortesewetrust says...

I read arsen is trying his luck with a BOGOF offer, this is comical, he still thinks we are the pathetic little south coast pushover team in desperate need of cash we used to be, http://www.ibtimes.c
o.uk/arsenal-ready-3
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I read arsen is trying his luck with a BOGOF offer, this is comical, he still thinks we are the pathetic little south coast pushover team in desperate need of cash we used to be, http://www.ibtimes.c o.uk/arsenal-ready-3 0m-bid-southampton-d uo-morgan-schneiderl in-dejan-lovren-1455 419 InCortesewetrust
  • Score: 2

10:51am Sat 5 Jul 14

Saint_rob says...

long memory wrote:
Portswood wrote:
Very positive news. For anyone a wee bit concerned about Pelle's advancing years, bear in mind that he should still be a top striker for at least the next 2-3 seasons. By that point, Sam Gallagher will have matured into a top-class striker himself. And Jay Rodriguez, touch wood, will have forgotten all about his injury and have become England's best striker by far. Meanwhile, new young strikers will have come through the famed Saints academy and be pushing hard for the first team. Strap yourselves in, folks. It's gonna be a helluva ride!
Portswood,I like your optimistic view of the future. My main concern is this time next year,will it be a case of déjà vu, and every season thereafter.
We have one of the best academies in Europe where young lads with a modicum of talent will be straining at the leash to join our wonderful academy ,to take full advantage of our state of the art facilities,elevate into the first team,and use it for nothing more than a shop window.
As for the young talent that we are bringing through at the moment,I will be surprised if there are any here in two to three seasons time,unfortunately this is the way it is,we will just be a feeder club for the top six.
God,I hate myself for mailing this negativity having been a supporter of Saints for 56 years,but I honestly think I am talking reality, IMO.
I do hope that JR is planning to stay with us and show some gratitude, and not just be using our wonderful physio and our facilities to get back too full fitness,then want out in January,
After all my pessimism , I wish RK and his staff all the very best,and I am sure he will bring in some exciting players and put a smile back on our faces,making the last few months a distant memory,and hopefully bring NC period of SCHADENFREUDE to an abrupt end, UTS.
Agree with you, maybe the players feel that Saints have reached
there peak? to get into the top 4 / 6 is going to be a very difficult.
Unless you do a Man City throw £200M at it and then pay a fine.
We have been in a very strong position to do it, more so than any other
team. And with a top manager coming in, but it's fallen apart now. Can't help but feel there is something we don't know.
[quote][p][bold]long memory[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Portswood[/bold] wrote: Very positive news. For anyone a wee bit concerned about Pelle's advancing years, bear in mind that he should still be a top striker for at least the next 2-3 seasons. By that point, Sam Gallagher will have matured into a top-class striker himself. And Jay Rodriguez, touch wood, will have forgotten all about his injury and have become England's best striker by far. Meanwhile, new young strikers will have come through the famed Saints academy and be pushing hard for the first team. Strap yourselves in, folks. It's gonna be a helluva ride![/p][/quote]Portswood,I like your optimistic view of the future. My main concern is this time next year,will it be a case of déjà vu, and every season thereafter. We have one of the best academies in Europe where young lads with a modicum of talent will be straining at the leash to join our wonderful academy ,to take full advantage of our state of the art facilities,elevate into the first team,and use it for nothing more than a shop window. As for the young talent that we are bringing through at the moment,I will be surprised if there are any here in two to three seasons time,unfortunately this is the way it is,we will just be a feeder club for the top six. God,I hate myself for mailing this negativity having been a supporter of Saints for 56 years,but I honestly think I am talking reality, IMO. I do hope that JR is planning to stay with us and show some gratitude, and not just be using our wonderful physio and our facilities to get back too full fitness,then want out in January, After all my pessimism , I wish RK and his staff all the very best,and I am sure he will bring in some exciting players and put a smile back on our faces,making the last few months a distant memory,and hopefully bring NC period of SCHADENFREUDE to an abrupt end, UTS.[/p][/quote]Agree with you, maybe the players feel that Saints have reached there peak? to get into the top 4 / 6 is going to be a very difficult. Unless you do a Man City throw £200M at it and then pay a fine. We have been in a very strong position to do it, more so than any other team. And with a top manager coming in, but it's fallen apart now. Can't help but feel there is something we don't know. Saint_rob
  • Score: 5

11:02am Sat 5 Jul 14

spratt says...

SodburySaint93 wrote:
Chapperall wrote:
It would seem that many of the players that have left or still want to leave cooked this up before they left on World Cup duty. Really disappointed with this as we treated them like heroes at the end of the season, plus it was Saints that gave them the step up to play for their national teams. However it would seem that in football there is no such thing as being held to a contract, or being loyal to your club. The thing I can't get my head around is why no other club is being effected like this with masses of players wanting to leave! Is there something fundamentally wrong going on inside the club or was this all prearranged with Poch?
Either way we need to start bring in these players as I fear for the next season otherwise.
Can't believe we have lost our manager, coaches, 3 star players (and possibly 3 more to go) and that's after finishing 8th in the league.

God knows what would have happened if we had finished lower -


Like 9th !!!!!!
As I said in an earlier thread this whole business STINKS. Its what might have been expected had we been relegated. But we had the most incredible. Whether the truth will ever come out - who knows but I suspect it lies somewhere between Pochettino, his mentor Cortese, with some link to the mysterious sacking of the 3 key members support staff. Its looking like a case Peirot. Personally I think the FA should have ordered an enquiry into these extrordinary happenings at SFC . Those players who are just refusing to return to the Club should be heavily fined and barred from playing in the UK.
[quote][p][bold]SodburySaint93[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chapperall[/bold] wrote: It would seem that many of the players that have left or still want to leave cooked this up before they left on World Cup duty. Really disappointed with this as we treated them like heroes at the end of the season, plus it was Saints that gave them the step up to play for their national teams. However it would seem that in football there is no such thing as being held to a contract, or being loyal to your club. The thing I can't get my head around is why no other club is being effected like this with masses of players wanting to leave! Is there something fundamentally wrong going on inside the club or was this all prearranged with Poch? Either way we need to start bring in these players as I fear for the next season otherwise.[/p][/quote]Can't believe we have lost our manager, coaches, 3 star players (and possibly 3 more to go) and that's after finishing 8th in the league. God knows what would have happened if we had finished lower - Like 9th !!!!!![/p][/quote]As I said in an earlier thread this whole business STINKS. Its what might have been expected had we been relegated. But we had the most incredible. Whether the truth will ever come out - who knows but I suspect it lies somewhere between Pochettino, his mentor Cortese, with some link to the mysterious sacking of the 3 key members support staff. Its looking like a case Peirot. Personally I think the FA should have ordered an enquiry into these extrordinary happenings at SFC . Those players who are just refusing to return to the Club should be heavily fined and barred from playing in the UK. spratt
  • Score: 6

11:07am Sat 5 Jul 14

baldcoot says...

I'm not sure what all the panic is. We've brought in a world class management team that at least can be bothered to communicate without an interpreter, okay so lala and a few others have and want to jump ship but with these funds going back into the bin for new players, of which RK and Co have the ability, knowledge and attractiveness to bring in quality to not only replace but improve our 2013 squad and possibly aim for a top 6 finish ( judging by RK's form). So Liverpool now own half the England squad ( didn't that go well in the world cup) ill be happy to be supporting Costa saints Rica and progress above them in the competition lol. Seriously let's stop the nagging and get behind what promises to be a bright future that none of us predicted in any of the past decades.
I'm not sure what all the panic is. We've brought in a world class management team that at least can be bothered to communicate without an interpreter, okay so lala and a few others have and want to jump ship but with these funds going back into the bin for new players, of which RK and Co have the ability, knowledge and attractiveness to bring in quality to not only replace but improve our 2013 squad and possibly aim for a top 6 finish ( judging by RK's form). So Liverpool now own half the England squad ( didn't that go well in the world cup) ill be happy to be supporting Costa saints Rica and progress above them in the competition lol. Seriously let's stop the nagging and get behind what promises to be a bright future that none of us predicted in any of the past decades. baldcoot
  • Score: 21

11:25am Sat 5 Jul 14

Realitycheck53 says...

Portswood wrote:
Very positive news. For anyone a wee bit concerned about Pelle's advancing years, bear in mind that he should still be a top striker for at least the next 2-3 seasons. By that point, Sam Gallagher will have matured into a top-class striker himself. And Jay Rodriguez, touch wood, will have forgotten all about his injury and have become England's best striker by far. Meanwhile, new young strikers will have come through the famed Saints academy and be pushing hard for the first team. Strap yourselves in, folks. It's gonna be a helluva ride!
Agreed but my concern is that this is just replacement stuff to get us back to square one re Lallana and Lambert. Having just Pelle and Gallagher as two recognised strikers pending JR's return is high risk and we need some options especially if, as I suspect, Koeman will want to make at least some use of 532/352 as a variation from the established but limited 4231. Last season's squad needed improving in the areas of goalkeeper, centre half options and a mobile skillful striker. Bring on Pelle and Tadic asap but I really hope this will be followed by some serious further buys e.g. Lukaku, Remy, Caulker, Marshall, Forster, Dick Van Dyke (Celtic), Lex Immer, Hernandez, Danny Ings etc. Suarez? Sanchez? :) Not to mention a replacement for Luke Shaw. It is asking a lot of Matt Targett to step straight in and fill his shoes without what could prove to be an expensive learning curve. I am looking forward to Sam McQueen and Harrison Reed breaking into the team also but some serious action in the transfer market needs to happen soon if we are to hit the ground running in August. Especially with the despicable Spiderman and Bovril throwing their toys out of the pram. In the above I am taking as read that we need to replace not just Lambert but also Osvaldo. So basically - fine if Pelle/Tadic is just the start but alarm bells and flashing lights if it stops there.
[quote][p][bold]Portswood[/bold] wrote: Very positive news. For anyone a wee bit concerned about Pelle's advancing years, bear in mind that he should still be a top striker for at least the next 2-3 seasons. By that point, Sam Gallagher will have matured into a top-class striker himself. And Jay Rodriguez, touch wood, will have forgotten all about his injury and have become England's best striker by far. Meanwhile, new young strikers will have come through the famed Saints academy and be pushing hard for the first team. Strap yourselves in, folks. It's gonna be a helluva ride![/p][/quote]Agreed but my concern is that this is just replacement stuff to get us back to square one re Lallana and Lambert. Having just Pelle and Gallagher as two recognised strikers pending JR's return is high risk and we need some options especially if, as I suspect, Koeman will want to make at least some use of 532/352 as a variation from the established but limited 4231. Last season's squad needed improving in the areas of goalkeeper, centre half options and a mobile skillful striker. Bring on Pelle and Tadic asap but I really hope this will be followed by some serious further buys e.g. Lukaku, Remy, Caulker, Marshall, Forster, Dick Van Dyke (Celtic), Lex Immer, Hernandez, Danny Ings etc. Suarez? Sanchez? :) Not to mention a replacement for Luke Shaw. It is asking a lot of Matt Targett to step straight in and fill his shoes without what could prove to be an expensive learning curve. I am looking forward to Sam McQueen and Harrison Reed breaking into the team also but some serious action in the transfer market needs to happen soon if we are to hit the ground running in August. Especially with the despicable Spiderman and Bovril throwing their toys out of the pram. In the above I am taking as read that we need to replace not just Lambert but also Osvaldo. So basically - fine if Pelle/Tadic is just the start but alarm bells and flashing lights if it stops there. Realitycheck53
  • Score: 3

11:32am Sat 5 Jul 14

InsideOutCat says...

Confucious wrote:
Get rid of Lovren ASAP. No point in keeping £20m sat in the reserves p!ssing everyone else off.

He looks well suited to Liverpool - the world's most powerful @rsehole magnet.
I think I saw one of those in a shop window in Brighton
[quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Get rid of Lovren ASAP. No point in keeping £20m sat in the reserves p!ssing everyone else off. He looks well suited to Liverpool - the world's most powerful @rsehole magnet.[/p][/quote]I think I saw one of those in a shop window in Brighton InsideOutCat
  • Score: 6

11:35am Sat 5 Jul 14

Sammy2sheds says...

Wtf... West ham sign cresswell from ipswich.what is les doing? By far the best left back in the championship and only 24 and only cost west ham 4million.i know targett is coming through but he is not ready.clyne and chambers one side and cresswell an targett in the other.who are we going after? Some foreign journeyman.
Any bid for ings or will we leave him for the hammers as well? Any bid for caulker or will we just let qpr have him.if we are losing out or not bothering with these players we must really be eyeing up some top quality replacements.some how I think not.
Sack the board.
LES REED OUT
Wtf... West ham sign cresswell from ipswich.what is les doing? By far the best left back in the championship and only 24 and only cost west ham 4million.i know targett is coming through but he is not ready.clyne and chambers one side and cresswell an targett in the other.who are we going after? Some foreign journeyman. Any bid for ings or will we leave him for the hammers as well? Any bid for caulker or will we just let qpr have him.if we are losing out or not bothering with these players we must really be eyeing up some top quality replacements.some how I think not. Sack the board. LES REED OUT Sammy2sheds
  • Score: -21

11:36am Sat 5 Jul 14

Positively4thStreet says...

spratt wrote:
SodburySaint93 wrote:
Chapperall wrote:
It would seem that many of the players that have left or still want to leave cooked this up before they left on World Cup duty. Really disappointed with this as we treated them like heroes at the end of the season, plus it was Saints that gave them the step up to play for their national teams. However it would seem that in football there is no such thing as being held to a contract, or being loyal to your club. The thing I can't get my head around is why no other club is being effected like this with masses of players wanting to leave! Is there something fundamentally wrong going on inside the club or was this all prearranged with Poch?
Either way we need to start bring in these players as I fear for the next season otherwise.
Can't believe we have lost our manager, coaches, 3 star players (and possibly 3 more to go) and that's after finishing 8th in the league.

God knows what would have happened if we had finished lower -


Like 9th !!!!!!
As I said in an earlier thread this whole business STINKS. Its what might have been expected had we been relegated. But we had the most incredible. Whether the truth will ever come out - who knows but I suspect it lies somewhere between Pochettino, his mentor Cortese, with some link to the mysterious sacking of the 3 key members support staff. Its looking like a case Peirot. Personally I think the FA should have ordered an enquiry into these extrordinary happenings at SFC . Those players who are just refusing to return to the Club should be heavily fined and barred from playing in the UK.
If ever there was the chance for someone rich to take over the club,and do something with it,now is the time...oh,hang on a minute,that's already happened hasn't it!
[quote][p][bold]spratt[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SodburySaint93[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Chapperall[/bold] wrote: It would seem that many of the players that have left or still want to leave cooked this up before they left on World Cup duty. Really disappointed with this as we treated them like heroes at the end of the season, plus it was Saints that gave them the step up to play for their national teams. However it would seem that in football there is no such thing as being held to a contract, or being loyal to your club. The thing I can't get my head around is why no other club is being effected like this with masses of players wanting to leave! Is there something fundamentally wrong going on inside the club or was this all prearranged with Poch? Either way we need to start bring in these players as I fear for the next season otherwise.[/p][/quote]Can't believe we have lost our manager, coaches, 3 star players (and possibly 3 more to go) and that's after finishing 8th in the league. God knows what would have happened if we had finished lower - Like 9th !!!!!![/p][/quote]As I said in an earlier thread this whole business STINKS. Its what might have been expected had we been relegated. But we had the most incredible. Whether the truth will ever come out - who knows but I suspect it lies somewhere between Pochettino, his mentor Cortese, with some link to the mysterious sacking of the 3 key members support staff. Its looking like a case Peirot. Personally I think the FA should have ordered an enquiry into these extrordinary happenings at SFC . Those players who are just refusing to return to the Club should be heavily fined and barred from playing in the UK.[/p][/quote]If ever there was the chance for someone rich to take over the club,and do something with it,now is the time...oh,hang on a minute,that's already happened hasn't it! Positively4thStreet
  • Score: -3

11:36am Sat 5 Jul 14

InsideOutCat says...

baldcoot wrote:
I'm not sure what all the panic is. We've brought in a world class management team that at least can be bothered to communicate without an interpreter, okay so lala and a few others have and want to jump ship but with these funds going back into the bin for new players, of which RK and Co have the ability, knowledge and attractiveness to bring in quality to not only replace but improve our 2013 squad and possibly aim for a top 6 finish ( judging by RK's form). So Liverpool now own half the England squad ( didn't that go well in the world cup) ill be happy to be supporting Costa saints Rica and progress above them in the competition lol. Seriously let's stop the nagging and get behind what promises to be a bright future that none of us predicted in any of the past decades.
Well said that man. Bottum of League 1 with -10 points, nuw THAT'S something to moan about!
[quote][p][bold]baldcoot[/bold] wrote: I'm not sure what all the panic is. We've brought in a world class management team that at least can be bothered to communicate without an interpreter, okay so lala and a few others have and want to jump ship but with these funds going back into the bin for new players, of which RK and Co have the ability, knowledge and attractiveness to bring in quality to not only replace but improve our 2013 squad and possibly aim for a top 6 finish ( judging by RK's form). So Liverpool now own half the England squad ( didn't that go well in the world cup) ill be happy to be supporting Costa saints Rica and progress above them in the competition lol. Seriously let's stop the nagging and get behind what promises to be a bright future that none of us predicted in any of the past decades.[/p][/quote]Well said that man. Bottum of League 1 with -10 points, nuw THAT'S something to moan about! InsideOutCat
  • Score: 8

11:39am Sat 5 Jul 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

i see NC has put his house up for sale for £2.1mill. I hope that Brenda doesn't see it. expect a bid soon. in fact I am beginning to think that this might be a ploy by the diverpooh council to buy everything Southampton based and move it up there in an attempt to finally get our cruise liners. they have cheated and broken laws in this liner grab affair so why not? I heard Brenda is considering a bid for the Redbridge flyover and hopes it will help convince the Millbrook to sign! I`m really getting concerned as I don't want to start speaking scouse.
i see NC has put his house up for sale for £2.1mill. I hope that Brenda doesn't see it. expect a bid soon. in fact I am beginning to think that this might be a ploy by the diverpooh council to buy everything Southampton based and move it up there in an attempt to finally get our cruise liners. they have cheated and broken laws in this liner grab affair so why not? I heard Brenda is considering a bid for the Redbridge flyover and hopes it will help convince the Millbrook to sign! I`m really getting concerned as I don't want to start speaking scouse. de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 15

11:40am Sat 5 Jul 14

saints fan #1 says...

Sound replacements for SRL and Lala but still have the gaps to fill and strengthen the squad. Im all for doing sound business which can take time, but in turn taking time can mean missing out on some good deals. COYR exciting times
After buying these two sound players we still have 80m + spending money COOL.
Love to see some more kids joining Saints and then making the grade to the first team.
Sound replacements for SRL and Lala but still have the gaps to fill and strengthen the squad. Im all for doing sound business which can take time, but in turn taking time can mean missing out on some good deals. COYR exciting times After buying these two sound players we still have 80m + spending money COOL. Love to see some more kids joining Saints and then making the grade to the first team. saints fan #1
  • Score: 3

11:40am Sat 5 Jul 14

7saint7 says...

Graziano Pelle & Dusan Tadic two of the best players in Eredivisie
Ronald Koeman is going about it the right way . He know the gems in
Eredivisie there be more to come .
Great attacking football next season with a bigger squad of class players .
I think we will be fighting up the top end rather than the bottom end as some fans think.
we sold over priced English prem players & will buy class at the right price
Love it if we finish higher than Tottenham next year that a do for me.
Coyr
Graziano Pelle & Dusan Tadic two of the best players in Eredivisie Ronald Koeman is going about it the right way . He know the gems in Eredivisie there be more to come . Great attacking football next season with a bigger squad of class players . I think we will be fighting up the top end rather than the bottom end as some fans think. we sold over priced English prem players & will buy class at the right price Love it if we finish higher than Tottenham next year that a do for me. Coyr 7saint7
  • Score: 7

11:49am Sat 5 Jul 14

saints fan #1 says...

Brenda's been on the phone to asking me to join Diverpool, whats going on im not even a footballer. He wants everything Saints.
Brenda's been on the phone to asking me to join Diverpool, whats going on im not even a footballer. He wants everything Saints. saints fan #1
  • Score: 3

11:53am Sat 5 Jul 14

long memory says...

What appears to be happening.
Al,LS,MS,DL,and maybe one or two more have got together and said,sod the contracts,just throw your toys out the pram and say we will never play for you again.
Now this plays very nicely into the hands of the vultures circling, as it gives them wonderful leverage to get the players cheaper than the board want. If these players are telling the big clubs they want to go,come and get me,and we will do everything in our power to be a pain in the a==e with the Saints board,you are in a great position not to offer what they want,basically they are advertising their availability,sorry but this whole saga stinks,and I would love to find out who the main instigator is of all this undoing,I have my suspicions.
I also think RL was the carrot to lure players to Liverhampton.
What appears to be happening. Al,LS,MS,DL,and maybe one or two more have got together and said,sod the contracts,just throw your toys out the pram and say we will never play for you again. Now this plays very nicely into the hands of the vultures circling, as it gives them wonderful leverage to get the players cheaper than the board want. If these players are telling the big clubs they want to go,come and get me,and we will do everything in our power to be a pain in the a==e with the Saints board,you are in a great position not to offer what they want,basically they are advertising their availability,sorry but this whole saga stinks,and I would love to find out who the main instigator is of all this undoing,I have my suspicions. I also think RL was the carrot to lure players to Liverhampton. long memory
  • Score: 13

12:01pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Poole Tom says...

Bearing in mind that MoPo indicated long before Cortese departed that he could`nt imagine working at Southampton without the man that appointed him first team manager, it amazes me that anyone was surprised when he left. All I will say is that at least he stayed until the end of the season before jumping ship so we have something to be grateful for I suppose. Furthermore like many others I`m not convinced that he will make a success of the Spuds job. We shall see. With regard to the players that have left the club or want to leave, this is also hardly surprising given that they will now double or treble their wages and get the opportunity to play Champions League football either immediately or in the not too distant future. This is`nt some sort of conspiracy against the club, it`s just a consequence of them playing exceptionally well over the last one or two seasons and as a result getting an opportunity to play for the biggest clubs in the land, an opportunity that most of them probably thought that they would never get. Just remember no player, not even Matt Le Tiss love`s this club as much as the vast majority of the posters on here, who in many cases like me have happily paid to watch the team home and away for many decades, as opposed to getting what they can out of the club before b........g off to pastures new.
Bearing in mind that MoPo indicated long before Cortese departed that he could`nt imagine working at Southampton without the man that appointed him first team manager, it amazes me that anyone was surprised when he left. All I will say is that at least he stayed until the end of the season before jumping ship so we have something to be grateful for I suppose. Furthermore like many others I`m not convinced that he will make a success of the Spuds job. We shall see. With regard to the players that have left the club or want to leave, this is also hardly surprising given that they will now double or treble their wages and get the opportunity to play Champions League football either immediately or in the not too distant future. This is`nt some sort of conspiracy against the club, it`s just a consequence of them playing exceptionally well over the last one or two seasons and as a result getting an opportunity to play for the biggest clubs in the land, an opportunity that most of them probably thought that they would never get. Just remember no player, not even Matt Le Tiss love`s this club as much as the vast majority of the posters on here, who in many cases like me have happily paid to watch the team home and away for many decades, as opposed to getting what they can out of the club before b........g off to pastures new. Poole Tom
  • Score: 12

12:10pm Sat 5 Jul 14

baldcoot says...

InsideOutCat wrote:
baldcoot wrote:
I'm not sure what all the panic is. We've brought in a world class management team that at least can be bothered to communicate without an interpreter, okay so lala and a few others have and want to jump ship but with these funds going back into the bin for new players, of which RK and Co have the ability, knowledge and attractiveness to bring in quality to not only replace but improve our 2013 squad and possibly aim for a top 6 finish ( judging by RK's form). So Liverpool now own half the England squad ( didn't that go well in the world cup) ill be happy to be supporting Costa saints Rica and progress above them in the competition lol. Seriously let's stop the nagging and get behind what promises to be a bright future that none of us predicted in any of the past decades.
Well said that man. Bottum of League 1 with -10 points, nuw THAT'S something to moan about!
I think the other thing I should point out is that we had a similar reaction when we ditched adkins and bought in poch. Didn't everyone bemoan that decision made by the board. That decision took us to a top 8 spot. Every decision made by the board has up till yet shown nothing more than massive progress. I for one am right behind them.
[quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]baldcoot[/bold] wrote: I'm not sure what all the panic is. We've brought in a world class management team that at least can be bothered to communicate without an interpreter, okay so lala and a few others have and want to jump ship but with these funds going back into the bin for new players, of which RK and Co have the ability, knowledge and attractiveness to bring in quality to not only replace but improve our 2013 squad and possibly aim for a top 6 finish ( judging by RK's form). So Liverpool now own half the England squad ( didn't that go well in the world cup) ill be happy to be supporting Costa saints Rica and progress above them in the competition lol. Seriously let's stop the nagging and get behind what promises to be a bright future that none of us predicted in any of the past decades.[/p][/quote]Well said that man. Bottum of League 1 with -10 points, nuw THAT'S something to moan about![/p][/quote]I think the other thing I should point out is that we had a similar reaction when we ditched adkins and bought in poch. Didn't everyone bemoan that decision made by the board. That decision took us to a top 8 spot. Every decision made by the board has up till yet shown nothing more than massive progress. I for one am right behind them. baldcoot
  • Score: 13

12:20pm Sat 5 Jul 14

justaSaintsfan says...

chapelsaint wrote:
de heiligen zijn terug in rode en witte strepen
The Saints are here to stay mate. The club is always bigger than those few players who decide to leave. Transfer fees from sales of those players are affording Saints real spending power to bring in quality players, soon to be playing in red and white stripes.

I believe that Southampton FC is no less ambitious than a year ago. Onward and upward!!!
[quote][p][bold]chapelsaint[/bold] wrote: de heiligen zijn terug in rode en witte strepen[/p][/quote]The Saints are here to stay mate. The club is always bigger than those few players who decide to leave. Transfer fees from sales of those players are affording Saints real spending power to bring in quality players, soon to be playing in red and white stripes. I believe that Southampton FC is no less ambitious than a year ago. Onward and upward!!! justaSaintsfan
  • Score: 12

12:46pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Sammy2sheds says...

baldcoot wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
baldcoot wrote:
I'm not sure what all the panic is. We've brought in a world class management team that at least can be bothered to communicate without an interpreter, okay so lala and a few others have and want to jump ship but with these funds going back into the bin for new players, of which RK and Co have the ability, knowledge and attractiveness to bring in quality to not only replace but improve our 2013 squad and possibly aim for a top 6 finish ( judging by RK's form). So Liverpool now own half the England squad ( didn't that go well in the world cup) ill be happy to be supporting Costa saints Rica and progress above them in the competition lol. Seriously let's stop the nagging and get behind what promises to be a bright future that none of us predicted in any of the past decades.
Well said that man. Bottum of League 1 with -10 points, nuw THAT'S something to moan about!
I think the other thing I should point out is that we had a similar reaction when we ditched adkins and bought in poch. Didn't everyone bemoan that decision made by the board. That decision took us to a top 8 spot. Every decision made by the board has up till yet shown nothing more than massive progress. I for one am right behind them.
You mean every decision made by cortese had given us massive progress.
He has left.we now have les.
Les wears farahs and a tucked in short sleeved shirt.
[quote][p][bold]baldcoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]baldcoot[/bold] wrote: I'm not sure what all the panic is. We've brought in a world class management team that at least can be bothered to communicate without an interpreter, okay so lala and a few others have and want to jump ship but with these funds going back into the bin for new players, of which RK and Co have the ability, knowledge and attractiveness to bring in quality to not only replace but improve our 2013 squad and possibly aim for a top 6 finish ( judging by RK's form). So Liverpool now own half the England squad ( didn't that go well in the world cup) ill be happy to be supporting Costa saints Rica and progress above them in the competition lol. Seriously let's stop the nagging and get behind what promises to be a bright future that none of us predicted in any of the past decades.[/p][/quote]Well said that man. Bottum of League 1 with -10 points, nuw THAT'S something to moan about![/p][/quote]I think the other thing I should point out is that we had a similar reaction when we ditched adkins and bought in poch. Didn't everyone bemoan that decision made by the board. That decision took us to a top 8 spot. Every decision made by the board has up till yet shown nothing more than massive progress. I for one am right behind them.[/p][/quote]You mean every decision made by cortese had given us massive progress. He has left.we now have les. Les wears farahs and a tucked in short sleeved shirt. Sammy2sheds
  • Score: -3

12:55pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Saintly Sam says...

After the dark days of the last couple of weeks things are looking up now, I can't wait for the new season to start, especially if we get a result against Liverpool.
After the dark days of the last couple of weeks things are looking up now, I can't wait for the new season to start, especially if we get a result against Liverpool. Saintly Sam
  • Score: 5

1:19pm Sat 5 Jul 14

echo1948 says...

As I wrote on here yesterday, no matter who the manager is, it will be virtually impossible to build a team to gel together in 6 weeks. Thats also if we can get the right players in, and not just token signings.I still fear a season of struggling at the bottom of the table, and some real thumpings in the process. If I were the board I would with hold the registrations of any player who did not turn up for pre-season.
As I wrote on here yesterday, no matter who the manager is, it will be virtually impossible to build a team to gel together in 6 weeks. Thats also if we can get the right players in, and not just token signings.I still fear a season of struggling at the bottom of the table, and some real thumpings in the process. If I were the board I would with hold the registrations of any player who did not turn up for pre-season. echo1948
  • Score: -3

1:28pm Sat 5 Jul 14

upwherewebelong says...

long memory wrote:
NC Fan4Life wrote:
There is an increasing opinion on this and other posts of late that we are beginning to realize that it is highly unlikely that Saints can become a CL team for the following reasons:-
1. As soon as we have players that show they are good enough to play in the CL they will want to leave & go to a club to play in it. Yes there is a money factor but there is also the players ambition to play at the highest level possible. Unfortunately Saints can't offer that all the time we keep selling our top young stars.
Adam & Luke understood that and with them leaving Lovren and unfortunately Morgan will demand to go. I don't think we can blame them because they are both capable of playing at a higher level than Saints can offer.
2. Like it or not we are not considered to be a top six club especially with the small capacity and gates compared with the top clubs. We will need to not only expand the ground to a 50k capacity but also attract an average 48k crowd if it is possible.
3. We do need to only buy the best quality players we can and maximize their price when we do sell. The incoming players must be at least of equal quality to those we sell. Buying mediocre players will be our downfall. We will have mediocre players coming out of our academy (as well as the odd stars) so no need to waste money buying average ones.

As good as we have become and even with the good appointment of the Koeman Bros, we cannot expect them to improve us much more than our current level at best. If they do then our best players will want to move on.

Still most of us are starting to realize the situation and thankful that our owners & board are at least showing that we intend to stay a top half team. We will always loose a couple of players each season wanting to move on to a bigger club given the chance but if we can buy & develop their replacements there is no reason why we cannot maintain that level and hope for good cup runs. With two or three still expected to leave I don't expect that we will loose 5 or 6 stars every season.

I have been an optimistic season ticket holder since the mid sixties and having experienced the downs of late to see us rise to this level, I now realize that this could be as good as it gets. Five years ago facing extinction I would have given an arm & leg to be in the position we are now and playing the type of football that we are.

My hope (& my heart) is that RonKo keeps the good quality football flowing and that he is successful and stays with us for a long term. Then there may be a chance that he can build a good team again and keep some of the new stars to maybe just maybe step up into the top six or at least win a few cups.

The important things are to maximize the use our excellent training facility and academy (paid for by the sell of Luke Shaw) and keep producing & improving young players. Stay in a good financial position and play good attractive football in the top half of the Premiership.

In other words the tide went out and we came roaring back on the crest of a wave but we now have to accept that we just ride them from here on.

COYS Lets have another entertaining season we will at least some great players come AND go in the process.
Agree NC.
Regarding the 50K capacity stadium,it would be nice,but as you intimate,but you have to fill it,and I don't think you would.
The only feasible way to achieve that is to build a new stadium on the old Ford site,enabling the best infrastructure you could possibly wish for with the airport,train station and motorway,I think it would increase the catchment area by a good percentage, and increase the gate capacity.
I was never happy with where St Mary's was built from day one,though thanks mainly to Eastleigh Council,it was a case of 'Hobsons Choice'.
St Mary's is not an amenable stadium to get to,and to talk of building extra stands onto it is ludicrous,just think of the snarl up it would cause.
I have friends who have said they would buy a season ticket if the ground wasn't in such a stupid area,so unless you live in Southampton,which I and many others don't,meaning you have to leave home early,just to get parked.
I disagree I live in Eastleigh and SMS is hardly a chore to get too each Saturday . Think we should expand SMS but under the new philosophy of the club can't see much chance of a new or improved stadium
[quote][p][bold]long memory[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: There is an increasing opinion on this and other posts of late that we are beginning to realize that it is highly unlikely that Saints can become a CL team for the following reasons:- 1. As soon as we have players that show they are good enough to play in the CL they will want to leave & go to a club to play in it. Yes there is a money factor but there is also the players ambition to play at the highest level possible. Unfortunately Saints can't offer that all the time we keep selling our top young stars. Adam & Luke understood that and with them leaving Lovren and unfortunately Morgan will demand to go. I don't think we can blame them because they are both capable of playing at a higher level than Saints can offer. 2. Like it or not we are not considered to be a top six club especially with the small capacity and gates compared with the top clubs. We will need to not only expand the ground to a 50k capacity but also attract an average 48k crowd if it is possible. 3. We do need to only buy the best quality players we can and maximize their price when we do sell. The incoming players must be at least of equal quality to those we sell. Buying mediocre players will be our downfall. We will have mediocre players coming out of our academy (as well as the odd stars) so no need to waste money buying average ones. As good as we have become and even with the good appointment of the Koeman Bros, we cannot expect them to improve us much more than our current level at best. If they do then our best players will want to move on. Still most of us are starting to realize the situation and thankful that our owners & board are at least showing that we intend to stay a top half team. We will always loose a couple of players each season wanting to move on to a bigger club given the chance but if we can buy & develop their replacements there is no reason why we cannot maintain that level and hope for good cup runs. With two or three still expected to leave I don't expect that we will loose 5 or 6 stars every season. I have been an optimistic season ticket holder since the mid sixties and having experienced the downs of late to see us rise to this level, I now realize that this could be as good as it gets. Five years ago facing extinction I would have given an arm & leg to be in the position we are now and playing the type of football that we are. My hope (& my heart) is that RonKo keeps the good quality football flowing and that he is successful and stays with us for a long term. Then there may be a chance that he can build a good team again and keep some of the new stars to maybe just maybe step up into the top six or at least win a few cups. The important things are to maximize the use our excellent training facility and academy (paid for by the sell of Luke Shaw) and keep producing & improving young players. Stay in a good financial position and play good attractive football in the top half of the Premiership. In other words the tide went out and we came roaring back on the crest of a wave but we now have to accept that we just ride them from here on. COYS Lets have another entertaining season we will at least some great players come AND go in the process.[/p][/quote]Agree NC. Regarding the 50K capacity stadium,it would be nice,but as you intimate,but you have to fill it,and I don't think you would. The only feasible way to achieve that is to build a new stadium on the old Ford site,enabling the best infrastructure you could possibly wish for with the airport,train station and motorway,I think it would increase the catchment area by a good percentage, and increase the gate capacity. I was never happy with where St Mary's was built from day one,though thanks mainly to Eastleigh Council,it was a case of 'Hobsons Choice'. St Mary's is not an amenable stadium to get to,and to talk of building extra stands onto it is ludicrous,just think of the snarl up it would cause. I have friends who have said they would buy a season ticket if the ground wasn't in such a stupid area,so unless you live in Southampton,which I and many others don't,meaning you have to leave home early,just to get parked.[/p][/quote]I disagree I live in Eastleigh and SMS is hardly a chore to get too each Saturday . Think we should expand SMS but under the new philosophy of the club can't see much chance of a new or improved stadium upwherewebelong
  • Score: -1

1:36pm Sat 5 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
baldcoot wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
baldcoot wrote:
I'm not sure what all the panic is. We've brought in a world class management team that at least can be bothered to communicate without an interpreter, okay so lala and a few others have and want to jump ship but with these funds going back into the bin for new players, of which RK and Co have the ability, knowledge and attractiveness to bring in quality to not only replace but improve our 2013 squad and possibly aim for a top 6 finish ( judging by RK's form). So Liverpool now own half the England squad ( didn't that go well in the world cup) ill be happy to be supporting Costa saints Rica and progress above them in the competition lol. Seriously let's stop the nagging and get behind what promises to be a bright future that none of us predicted in any of the past decades.
Well said that man. Bottum of League 1 with -10 points, nuw THAT'S something to moan about!
I think the other thing I should point out is that we had a similar reaction when we ditched adkins and bought in poch. Didn't everyone bemoan that decision made by the board. That decision took us to a top 8 spot. Every decision made by the board has up till yet shown nothing more than massive progress. I for one am right behind them.
You mean every decision made by cortese had given us massive progress.
He has left.we now have les.
Les wears farahs and a tucked in short sleeved shirt.
Good Lord when did that happen, why weren't we told about this.
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]baldcoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]baldcoot[/bold] wrote: I'm not sure what all the panic is. We've brought in a world class management team that at least can be bothered to communicate without an interpreter, okay so lala and a few others have and want to jump ship but with these funds going back into the bin for new players, of which RK and Co have the ability, knowledge and attractiveness to bring in quality to not only replace but improve our 2013 squad and possibly aim for a top 6 finish ( judging by RK's form). So Liverpool now own half the England squad ( didn't that go well in the world cup) ill be happy to be supporting Costa saints Rica and progress above them in the competition lol. Seriously let's stop the nagging and get behind what promises to be a bright future that none of us predicted in any of the past decades.[/p][/quote]Well said that man. Bottum of League 1 with -10 points, nuw THAT'S something to moan about![/p][/quote]I think the other thing I should point out is that we had a similar reaction when we ditched adkins and bought in poch. Didn't everyone bemoan that decision made by the board. That decision took us to a top 8 spot. Every decision made by the board has up till yet shown nothing more than massive progress. I for one am right behind them.[/p][/quote]You mean every decision made by cortese had given us massive progress. He has left.we now have les. Les wears farahs and a tucked in short sleeved shirt.[/p][/quote]Good Lord when did that happen, why weren't we told about this. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

1:41pm Sat 5 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

long memory wrote:
What appears to be happening.
Al,LS,MS,DL,and maybe one or two more have got together and said,sod the contracts,just throw your toys out the pram and say we will never play for you again.
Now this plays very nicely into the hands of the vultures circling, as it gives them wonderful leverage to get the players cheaper than the board want. If these players are telling the big clubs they want to go,come and get me,and we will do everything in our power to be a pain in the a==e with the Saints board,you are in a great position not to offer what they want,basically they are advertising their availability,sorry but this whole saga stinks,and I would love to find out who the main instigator is of all this undoing,I have my suspicions.
I also think RL was the carrot to lure players to Liverhampton.
I blame the agents, the players and the negative posters on here for everything.
[quote][p][bold]long memory[/bold] wrote: What appears to be happening. Al,LS,MS,DL,and maybe one or two more have got together and said,sod the contracts,just throw your toys out the pram and say we will never play for you again. Now this plays very nicely into the hands of the vultures circling, as it gives them wonderful leverage to get the players cheaper than the board want. If these players are telling the big clubs they want to go,come and get me,and we will do everything in our power to be a pain in the a==e with the Saints board,you are in a great position not to offer what they want,basically they are advertising their availability,sorry but this whole saga stinks,and I would love to find out who the main instigator is of all this undoing,I have my suspicions. I also think RL was the carrot to lure players to Liverhampton.[/p][/quote]I blame the agents, the players and the negative posters on here for everything. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

1:44pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Confucious says...

saints fan #1 wrote:
Brenda's been on the phone to asking me to join Diverpool, whats going on im not even a footballer. He wants everything Saints.
I've told them to hide the cat!
[quote][p][bold]saints fan #1[/bold] wrote: Brenda's been on the phone to asking me to join Diverpool, whats going on im not even a footballer. He wants everything Saints.[/p][/quote]I've told them to hide the cat! Confucious
  • Score: 10

1:46pm Sat 5 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
THE12THMAN wrote:
Pay the money and get the deals done before other clubs start sniffing around, COYR+WS .
Yeah I don't think we have to worry on that score.
First four words only, apply here.
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]THE12THMAN[/bold] wrote: Pay the money and get the deals done before other clubs start sniffing around, COYR+WS .[/p][/quote]Yeah I don't think we have to worry on that score.[/p][/quote]First four words only, apply here. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

1:51pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Mattyboysaints says...

I'm really excited and can't wait until the new season and here's why:-

1) Looking forward to seeing those turn costs fail at their new destinations, end of the day we finished 8th last term and their new teams will be expecting more.
2) counting down the days until Spurs sack POSH, we all know it will happen, the only question is which side of Xmas it will be.
3) Can't wait to watch the start of Super Ron's journey with the Saints and watch him build a side and see some new signing don the new red and white strips.
4) Looking forward to Ron & Louie have a bust up and the two teams competing for that last CPL place.
5) Looking forward to Ricci jogging over to the away Saints fans on the opening day and giving us all a clap, that you just know he means. AL can go F£&@ himself.
6) Looking forward to the Koeman brothers getting us play the Dutch way :-)
7) Looking forward to either a £25 million cheque for DL or watching him rot in the reserves.
8) Can't wait to buy my boy his third Saints shirt and the first time he will be wearing the true colours.
9) looking forward to Jay getting fit and returning to first team action.

What I'm trying to say Saints fans is that this is an amazing ride we are on and focus on the positives, cos there are loads and never a better time to be a SAINTS fan. COYS.
I'm really excited and can't wait until the new season and here's why:- 1) Looking forward to seeing those turn costs fail at their new destinations, end of the day we finished 8th last term and their new teams will be expecting more. 2) counting down the days until Spurs sack POSH, we all know it will happen, the only question is which side of Xmas it will be. 3) Can't wait to watch the start of Super Ron's journey with the Saints and watch him build a side and see some new signing don the new red and white strips. 4) Looking forward to Ron & Louie have a bust up and the two teams competing for that last CPL place. 5) Looking forward to Ricci jogging over to the away Saints fans on the opening day and giving us all a clap, that you just know he means. AL can go F£&@ himself. 6) Looking forward to the Koeman brothers getting us play the Dutch way :-) 7) Looking forward to either a £25 million cheque for DL or watching him rot in the reserves. 8) Can't wait to buy my boy his third Saints shirt and the first time he will be wearing the true colours. 9) looking forward to Jay getting fit and returning to first team action. What I'm trying to say Saints fans is that this is an amazing ride we are on and focus on the positives, cos there are loads and never a better time to be a SAINTS fan. COYS. Mattyboysaints
  • Score: 29

1:51pm Sat 5 Jul 14

baldcoot says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
baldcoot wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
baldcoot wrote:
I'm not sure what all the panic is. We've brought in a world class management team that at least can be bothered to communicate without an interpreter, okay so lala and a few others have and want to jump ship but with these funds going back into the bin for new players, of which RK and Co have the ability, knowledge and attractiveness to bring in quality to not only replace but improve our 2013 squad and possibly aim for a top 6 finish ( judging by RK's form). So Liverpool now own half the England squad ( didn't that go well in the world cup) ill be happy to be supporting Costa saints Rica and progress above them in the competition lol. Seriously let's stop the nagging and get behind what promises to be a bright future that none of us predicted in any of the past decades.
Well said that man. Bottum of League 1 with -10 points, nuw THAT'S something to moan about!
I think the other thing I should point out is that we had a similar reaction when we ditched adkins and bought in poch. Didn't everyone bemoan that decision made by the board. That decision took us to a top 8 spot. Every decision made by the board has up till yet shown nothing more than massive progress. I for one am right behind them.
You mean every decision made by cortese had given us massive progress.
He has left.we now have les.
Les wears farahs and a tucked in short sleeved shirt.
Cortege did us proud but did he attract such management as to what we have now. He brought us poch who it appears has given our stars many doubts about our fabulous club and caused an exodus using us as a stepping stone to enhance his own progress and not that of our club. What has Les Reed done so far? RK for starters pure quality in management and developing youth progress, just look at the Dutch team that is full of his prodigies, already looking to bring quality back to the team, Corteses big buys. Osvaldo ( flop ) gaston ( untamed and under performed with poch in charge with such potential yet to be released)
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]baldcoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]baldcoot[/bold] wrote: I'm not sure what all the panic is. We've brought in a world class management team that at least can be bothered to communicate without an interpreter, okay so lala and a few others have and want to jump ship but with these funds going back into the bin for new players, of which RK and Co have the ability, knowledge and attractiveness to bring in quality to not only replace but improve our 2013 squad and possibly aim for a top 6 finish ( judging by RK's form). So Liverpool now own half the England squad ( didn't that go well in the world cup) ill be happy to be supporting Costa saints Rica and progress above them in the competition lol. Seriously let's stop the nagging and get behind what promises to be a bright future that none of us predicted in any of the past decades.[/p][/quote]Well said that man. Bottum of League 1 with -10 points, nuw THAT'S something to moan about![/p][/quote]I think the other thing I should point out is that we had a similar reaction when we ditched adkins and bought in poch. Didn't everyone bemoan that decision made by the board. That decision took us to a top 8 spot. Every decision made by the board has up till yet shown nothing more than massive progress. I for one am right behind them.[/p][/quote]You mean every decision made by cortese had given us massive progress. He has left.we now have les. Les wears farahs and a tucked in short sleeved shirt.[/p][/quote]Cortege did us proud but did he attract such management as to what we have now. He brought us poch who it appears has given our stars many doubts about our fabulous club and caused an exodus using us as a stepping stone to enhance his own progress and not that of our club. What has Les Reed done so far? RK for starters pure quality in management and developing youth progress, just look at the Dutch team that is full of his prodigies, already looking to bring quality back to the team, Corteses big buys. Osvaldo ( flop ) gaston ( untamed and under performed with poch in charge with such potential yet to be released) baldcoot
  • Score: 4

1:56pm Sat 5 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

bathsaints wrote:
jls217 wrote:
bathsaints wrote:
I see that Morgan being quoted as also saying he not returning to training...getting a bit fed up of these players arrogance. What is it behind the scenes that creating this exodus? Is it just lack of ambition or money or an inept board or just player greed? Whatever it is we are going to need some serious rebuilding and we need to do it soon as only 6 weeks until the season starts and so many teams in the past have shown that large scale change takes time to bed in and work. I am encouraged by the appointment of Koeman and players like Cork (who should be captain) saying positive things but be good to hear a clear statement of direction and explanation from the board and even from koeman (how does he feel about the exodus). Lets bring in some quality. We have money and shouldn't settle for average. Players like Caulker, Redmond, Vlar, Delph surely they are players who would see ours as a club that can push on and all be good additions. Looking forward to reading positive stories in the press about our great football club not persistent rumours. Good luck to the new management team we'll be behind you all the way...
Not seen anything like this form Morgan - please. please be wrong. Where did you see this mate?
They seem to have learned a lot from their former captain eh!?
It is on the bbc gossip site
It would be interesting to know the accuracy rate of the BBC Gossip site, I suspect they get some things right but are only as reliant as the sources that they glean it from.
[quote][p][bold]bathsaints[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bathsaints[/bold] wrote: I see that Morgan being quoted as also saying he not returning to training...getting a bit fed up of these players arrogance. What is it behind the scenes that creating this exodus? Is it just lack of ambition or money or an inept board or just player greed? Whatever it is we are going to need some serious rebuilding and we need to do it soon as only 6 weeks until the season starts and so many teams in the past have shown that large scale change takes time to bed in and work. I am encouraged by the appointment of Koeman and players like Cork (who should be captain) saying positive things but be good to hear a clear statement of direction and explanation from the board and even from koeman (how does he feel about the exodus). Lets bring in some quality. We have money and shouldn't settle for average. Players like Caulker, Redmond, Vlar, Delph surely they are players who would see ours as a club that can push on and all be good additions. Looking forward to reading positive stories in the press about our great football club not persistent rumours. Good luck to the new management team we'll be behind you all the way...[/p][/quote]Not seen anything like this form Morgan - please. please be wrong. Where did you see this mate? They seem to have learned a lot from their former captain eh!?[/p][/quote]It is on the bbc gossip site[/p][/quote]It would be interesting to know the accuracy rate of the BBC Gossip site, I suspect they get some things right but are only as reliant as the sources that they glean it from. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -2

1:58pm Sat 5 Jul 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

echo1948 wrote:
As I wrote on here yesterday, no matter who the manager is, it will be virtually impossible to build a team to gel together in 6 weeks. Thats also if we can get the right players in, and not just token signings.I still fear a season of struggling at the bottom of the table, and some real thumpings in the process. If I were the board I would with hold the registrations of any player who did not turn up for pre-season.
AGREE - the CB Pairing is crucial on here so that we do not leak lots of goals next Season.

Like (cash strapped) everton the dream is very much alive for Top Section of the League with the lure of European Football and always striving for CL Football. THAT HAS NOT CHANGED.

STABILITY - PREM FOOTBALL - TOP HALF-TOP TEN - FIGHT FOR EUROPE - with KL - KING RON KOEMAN and TOP AWAY and Home Fans - WE REALLY ARE NUMBER ONE ON THE SOUTH.

For me- like to see Lovren Fonte and Saints secure Caulker to really get competition at this vital position.

DO NOT WANT Lovren and our well loved Spiderman enter the SFC HALL OF SHAME - with lambert lala and shaw. COYR+WS
[quote][p][bold]echo1948[/bold] wrote: As I wrote on here yesterday, no matter who the manager is, it will be virtually impossible to build a team to gel together in 6 weeks. Thats also if we can get the right players in, and not just token signings.I still fear a season of struggling at the bottom of the table, and some real thumpings in the process. If I were the board I would with hold the registrations of any player who did not turn up for pre-season.[/p][/quote]AGREE - the CB Pairing is crucial on here so that we do not leak lots of goals next Season. Like (cash strapped) everton the dream is very much alive for Top Section of the League with the lure of European Football and always striving for CL Football. THAT HAS NOT CHANGED. STABILITY - PREM FOOTBALL - TOP HALF-TOP TEN - FIGHT FOR EUROPE - with KL - KING RON KOEMAN and TOP AWAY and Home Fans - WE REALLY ARE NUMBER ONE ON THE SOUTH. For me- like to see Lovren Fonte and Saints secure Caulker to really get competition at this vital position. DO NOT WANT Lovren and our well loved Spiderman enter the SFC HALL OF SHAME - with lambert lala and shaw. COYR+WS The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 10

1:59pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Positively4thStreet says...

baldcoot wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
baldcoot wrote:
InsideOutCat wrote:
baldcoot wrote:
I'm not sure what all the panic is. We've brought in a world class management team that at least can be bothered to communicate without an interpreter, okay so lala and a few others have and want to jump ship but with these funds going back into the bin for new players, of which RK and Co have the ability, knowledge and attractiveness to bring in quality to not only replace but improve our 2013 squad and possibly aim for a top 6 finish ( judging by RK's form). So Liverpool now own half the England squad ( didn't that go well in the world cup) ill be happy to be supporting Costa saints Rica and progress above them in the competition lol. Seriously let's stop the nagging and get behind what promises to be a bright future that none of us predicted in any of the past decades.
Well said that man. Bottum of League 1 with -10 points, nuw THAT'S something to moan about!
I think the other thing I should point out is that we had a similar reaction when we ditched adkins and bought in poch. Didn't everyone bemoan that decision made by the board. That decision took us to a top 8 spot. Every decision made by the board has up till yet shown nothing more than massive progress. I for one am right behind them.
You mean every decision made by cortese had given us massive progress.
He has left.we now have les.
Les wears farahs and a tucked in short sleeved shirt.
Cortege did us proud but did he attract such management as to what we have now. He brought us poch who it appears has given our stars many doubts about our fabulous club and caused an exodus using us as a stepping stone to enhance his own progress and not that of our club. What has Les Reed done so far? RK for starters pure quality in management and developing youth progress, just look at the Dutch team that is full of his prodigies, already looking to bring quality back to the team, Corteses big buys. Osvaldo ( flop ) gaston ( untamed and under performed with poch in charge with such potential yet to be released)
I'm a big Cortese fan BC,but I can't argue with anything you say,just goes to show there's two sides to every story.Also,Cortese selling his house has just blown my "Cortese will return" theory out of the water(thanks Nicola),so what do I know..about as much as everyone else it seems.
[quote][p][bold]baldcoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]baldcoot[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]baldcoot[/bold] wrote: I'm not sure what all the panic is. We've brought in a world class management team that at least can be bothered to communicate without an interpreter, okay so lala and a few others have and want to jump ship but with these funds going back into the bin for new players, of which RK and Co have the ability, knowledge and attractiveness to bring in quality to not only replace but improve our 2013 squad and possibly aim for a top 6 finish ( judging by RK's form). So Liverpool now own half the England squad ( didn't that go well in the world cup) ill be happy to be supporting Costa saints Rica and progress above them in the competition lol. Seriously let's stop the nagging and get behind what promises to be a bright future that none of us predicted in any of the past decades.[/p][/quote]Well said that man. Bottum of League 1 with -10 points, nuw THAT'S something to moan about![/p][/quote]I think the other thing I should point out is that we had a similar reaction when we ditched adkins and bought in poch. Didn't everyone bemoan that decision made by the board. That decision took us to a top 8 spot. Every decision made by the board has up till yet shown nothing more than massive progress. I for one am right behind them.[/p][/quote]You mean every decision made by cortese had given us massive progress. He has left.we now have les. Les wears farahs and a tucked in short sleeved shirt.[/p][/quote]Cortege did us proud but did he attract such management as to what we have now. He brought us poch who it appears has given our stars many doubts about our fabulous club and caused an exodus using us as a stepping stone to enhance his own progress and not that of our club. What has Les Reed done so far? RK for starters pure quality in management and developing youth progress, just look at the Dutch team that is full of his prodigies, already looking to bring quality back to the team, Corteses big buys. Osvaldo ( flop ) gaston ( untamed and under performed with poch in charge with such potential yet to be released)[/p][/quote]I'm a big Cortese fan BC,but I can't argue with anything you say,just goes to show there's two sides to every story.Also,Cortese selling his house has just blown my "Cortese will return" theory out of the water(thanks Nicola),so what do I know..about as much as everyone else it seems. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 5

2:16pm Sat 5 Jul 14

andygoater1957 says...

We are losing are players now as the club is moving to slow in the transfer market.
We are losing are players now as the club is moving to slow in the transfer market. andygoater1957
  • Score: 4

2:33pm Sat 5 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

andygoater1957 wrote:
We are losing are players now as the club is moving to slow in the transfer market.
Too slow? These things shouldn't be rushed we have had our fingers burnt all too often, let's have a bit of patience while Ronko get into the chair.
[quote][p][bold]andygoater1957[/bold] wrote: We are losing are players now as the club is moving to slow in the transfer market.[/p][/quote]Too slow? These things shouldn't be rushed we have had our fingers burnt all too often, let's have a bit of patience while Ronko get into the chair. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

2:34pm Sat 5 Jul 14

hedge end bob says...

It's about time a club stood up to players that demand moves after signing long contracts. IMO they only got to say we expect you to honour what you accepted when you siged the contract, you are not for sale. If you refuse to play for this club you will be in default of your contract and will not be paid until you play again. We expect you to give this club 100% while you are here and if we feel this is not the case you will train alone on the common until you show the manager you are ready to perform to the standards we know you can perform. The ball is at your feet and so is your future career not only with this club but the rest of the footballing world you have to give some thought. Now should'nt you be out there training.
It's about time a club stood up to players that demand moves after signing long contracts. IMO they only got to say we expect you to honour what you accepted when you siged the contract, you are not for sale. If you refuse to play for this club you will be in default of your contract and will not be paid until you play again. We expect you to give this club 100% while you are here and if we feel this is not the case you will train alone on the common until you show the manager you are ready to perform to the standards we know you can perform. The ball is at your feet and so is your future career not only with this club but the rest of the footballing world you have to give some thought. Now should'nt you be out there training. hedge end bob
  • Score: 15

2:36pm Sat 5 Jul 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

THE12THMAN wrote:
Pay the money and get the deals done before other clubs start sniffing around, COYR+WS .
As Fan4Life has pleaded .... LES ...please bid and get Caulker in.

BE DECISIVE - we are well placed with Money and can outmuscle lower paced teams like QPR. COYR+WS
[quote][p][bold]THE12THMAN[/bold] wrote: Pay the money and get the deals done before other clubs start sniffing around, COYR+WS .[/p][/quote]As Fan4Life has pleaded .... LES ...please bid and get Caulker in. BE DECISIVE - we are well placed with Money and can outmuscle lower paced teams like QPR. COYR+WS The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 5

2:39pm Sat 5 Jul 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

hedge end bob wrote:
It's about time a club stood up to players that demand moves after signing long contracts. IMO they only got to say we expect you to honour what you accepted when you siged the contract, you are not for sale. If you refuse to play for this club you will be in default of your contract and will not be paid until you play again. We expect you to give this club 100% while you are here and if we feel this is not the case you will train alone on the common until you show the manager you are ready to perform to the standards we know you can perform. The ball is at your feet and so is your future career not only with this club but the rest of the footballing world you have to give some thought. Now should'nt you be out there training.
hedge end bob - loyal Supporter - TIME to make a Stand to these pathetic want away Players that have entered the SFC HALL OF SHAME ....

WANTAWAY lambert shaw and bighead lala - hang your heads in SHAME.
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: It's about time a club stood up to players that demand moves after signing long contracts. IMO they only got to say we expect you to honour what you accepted when you siged the contract, you are not for sale. If you refuse to play for this club you will be in default of your contract and will not be paid until you play again. We expect you to give this club 100% while you are here and if we feel this is not the case you will train alone on the common until you show the manager you are ready to perform to the standards we know you can perform. The ball is at your feet and so is your future career not only with this club but the rest of the footballing world you have to give some thought. Now should'nt you be out there training.[/p][/quote]hedge end bob - loyal Supporter - TIME to make a Stand to these pathetic want away Players that have entered the SFC HALL OF SHAME .... WANTAWAY lambert shaw and bighead lala - hang your heads in SHAME. The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 13

2:58pm Sat 5 Jul 14

jasons odd says...

I cant comment on Tasic having never seen him play apart from clips ...

But as someone who follows Italian football closely , pelle is a flop in the making . Ask any Italian football fan ,they will tell you pelle is half the striker Osvaldo is .

He couldn't cut it in the Italian league , didnt even shine in seria B . Scoring goals in the rubbish dutch league is easy . Van wolfswinkel, luuk de jong and many many more rubbish strikers have scored hatfulls .

If we dont set our sights higher ...it will be a horrible season .


No faith in Koeman , his record as a manager is poor , and hiring sammy lee is a shocking decision
I cant comment on Tasic having never seen him play apart from clips ... But as someone who follows Italian football closely , pelle is a flop in the making . Ask any Italian football fan ,they will tell you pelle is half the striker Osvaldo is . He couldn't cut it in the Italian league , didnt even shine in seria B . Scoring goals in the rubbish dutch league is easy . Van wolfswinkel, luuk de jong and many many more rubbish strikers have scored hatfulls . If we dont set our sights higher ...it will be a horrible season . No faith in Koeman , his record as a manager is poor , and hiring sammy lee is a shocking decision jasons odd
  • Score: -1

3:01pm Sat 5 Jul 14

pitbull says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
i see NC has put his house up for sale for £2.1mill. I hope that Brenda doesn't see it. expect a bid soon. in fact I am beginning to think that this might be a ploy by the diverpooh council to buy everything Southampton based and move it up there in an attempt to finally get our cruise liners. they have cheated and broken laws in this liner grab affair so why not? I heard Brenda is considering a bid for the Redbridge flyover and hopes it will help convince the Millbrook to sign! I`m really getting concerned as I don't want to start speaking scouse.
He's moving because he considers his task done. He single handed built the club up and then ripped it apart with the aid of his little Argie puppet.

The wheels haven't fallen off the bus, the scousers nicked 'em.

Big Ron's in the process of fitting some nice big chromed alloys.
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: i see NC has put his house up for sale for £2.1mill. I hope that Brenda doesn't see it. expect a bid soon. in fact I am beginning to think that this might be a ploy by the diverpooh council to buy everything Southampton based and move it up there in an attempt to finally get our cruise liners. they have cheated and broken laws in this liner grab affair so why not? I heard Brenda is considering a bid for the Redbridge flyover and hopes it will help convince the Millbrook to sign! I`m really getting concerned as I don't want to start speaking scouse.[/p][/quote]He's moving because he considers his task done. He single handed built the club up and then ripped it apart with the aid of his little Argie puppet. The wheels haven't fallen off the bus, the scousers nicked 'em. Big Ron's in the process of fitting some nice big chromed alloys. pitbull
  • Score: -16

3:08pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Buddy SFC says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
Wtf... West ham sign cresswell from ipswich.what is les doing? By far the best left back in the championship and only 24 and only cost west ham 4million.i know targett is coming through but he is not ready.clyne and chambers one side and cresswell an targett in the other.who are we going after? Some foreign journeyman.
Any bid for ings or will we leave him for the hammers as well? Any bid for caulker or will we just let qpr have him.if we are losing out or not bothering with these players we must really be eyeing up some top quality replacements.some how I think not.
Sack the board.
LES REED OUT
Muppet !
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Wtf... West ham sign cresswell from ipswich.what is les doing? By far the best left back in the championship and only 24 and only cost west ham 4million.i know targett is coming through but he is not ready.clyne and chambers one side and cresswell an targett in the other.who are we going after? Some foreign journeyman. Any bid for ings or will we leave him for the hammers as well? Any bid for caulker or will we just let qpr have him.if we are losing out or not bothering with these players we must really be eyeing up some top quality replacements.some how I think not. Sack the board. LES REED OUT[/p][/quote]Muppet ! Buddy SFC
  • Score: -8

3:13pm Sat 5 Jul 14

warrens 76 says...

pitbull wrote:
de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
i see NC has put his house up for sale for £2.1mill. I hope that Brenda doesn't see it. expect a bid soon. in fact I am beginning to think that this might be a ploy by the diverpooh council to buy everything Southampton based and move it up there in an attempt to finally get our cruise liners. they have cheated and broken laws in this liner grab affair so why not? I heard Brenda is considering a bid for the Redbridge flyover and hopes it will help convince the Millbrook to sign! I`m really getting concerned as I don't want to start speaking scouse.
He's moving because he considers his task done. He single handed built the club up and then ripped it apart with the aid of his little Argie puppet.

The wheels haven't fallen off the bus, the scousers nicked 'em.

Big Ron's in the process of fitting some nice big chromed alloys.
Were is his house, Chilworth, which agent has it..
[quote][p][bold]pitbull[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: i see NC has put his house up for sale for £2.1mill. I hope that Brenda doesn't see it. expect a bid soon. in fact I am beginning to think that this might be a ploy by the diverpooh council to buy everything Southampton based and move it up there in an attempt to finally get our cruise liners. they have cheated and broken laws in this liner grab affair so why not? I heard Brenda is considering a bid for the Redbridge flyover and hopes it will help convince the Millbrook to sign! I`m really getting concerned as I don't want to start speaking scouse.[/p][/quote]He's moving because he considers his task done. He single handed built the club up and then ripped it apart with the aid of his little Argie puppet. The wheels haven't fallen off the bus, the scousers nicked 'em. Big Ron's in the process of fitting some nice big chromed alloys.[/p][/quote]Were is his house, Chilworth, which agent has it.. warrens 76
  • Score: 2

3:18pm Sat 5 Jul 14

andygoater1957 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
andygoater1957 wrote:
We are losing are players now as the club is moving to slow in the transfer market.
Too slow? These things shouldn't be rushed we have had our fingers burnt all too often, let's have a bit of patience while Ronko get into the chair.
Yes but we are losing the players to other teams because they do not wish to pay the price.But then they wish to get, top price for are players.You cannot have it both way.We all know about 3/4 players were going at the end of season or before ,so they have had time to find the players in.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]andygoater1957[/bold] wrote: We are losing are players now as the club is moving to slow in the transfer market.[/p][/quote]Too slow? These things shouldn't be rushed we have had our fingers burnt all too often, let's have a bit of patience while Ronko get into the chair.[/p][/quote]Yes but we are losing the players to other teams because they do not wish to pay the price.But then they wish to get, top price for are players.You cannot have it both way.We all know about 3/4 players were going at the end of season or before ,so they have had time to find the players in. andygoater1957
  • Score: 11

3:55pm Sat 5 Jul 14

saintand266 says...

We are linked with a bid for Brazilian striker paulinho with Italian club livorino , its reported we offered six million but they want closer to ten million.
Don't know if its just press speculation but might be a good addition
We are linked with a bid for Brazilian striker paulinho with Italian club livorino , its reported we offered six million but they want closer to ten million. Don't know if its just press speculation but might be a good addition saintand266
  • Score: 2

4:04pm Sat 5 Jul 14

deepheat says...

The survival of Southampton FC is not just about next season.
There is no guarantee even if we sold no players at all that we wouldn't be fighting for relegation next season and if we survived Shaw, Lallana, Lovren, Schneiderlin, and Lambert would have been snapped up for about £40m instead of £104m we are getting now. Not all those players we sold are going to be successful at their new clubs. Selling now for top dollar is a once in a lifetime opportunity. I know we are not going to win the Premier League but with this money and the tv deals we can look forward to many years in the EPL. Dusan Tadic looks the business.
The survival of Southampton FC is not just about next season. There is no guarantee even if we sold no players at all that we wouldn't be fighting for relegation next season and if we survived Shaw, Lallana, Lovren, Schneiderlin, and Lambert would have been snapped up for about £40m instead of £104m we are getting now. Not all those players we sold are going to be successful at their new clubs. Selling now for top dollar is a once in a lifetime opportunity. I know we are not going to win the Premier League but with this money and the tv deals we can look forward to many years in the EPL. Dusan Tadic looks the business. deepheat
  • Score: 9

4:19pm Sat 5 Jul 14

loosehead says...

Teletext says Schneiderlein not going to return to force us to sell him? so two players playing the same game? This whole mass exodus seems to be very well co ordinated so who's behind it?
Great if we get these two new players as that could attract more top quality players to replace this scum who are dropping us in it.
Teletext says Schneiderlein not going to return to force us to sell him? so two players playing the same game? This whole mass exodus seems to be very well co ordinated so who's behind it? Great if we get these two new players as that could attract more top quality players to replace this scum who are dropping us in it. loosehead
  • Score: 9

4:20pm Sat 5 Jul 14

mack chinnon says...

Im in Rotterdam for the night. Should be fun.
Im in Rotterdam for the night. Should be fun. mack chinnon
  • Score: 3

4:20pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Purist85 says...

LAM. Ramirez CF. Pelle RAM. Tadic
CAM Davis
DM. Cork/Wanyama DM. Schneiderlin

That looks good to me even without any more additions. That is a strong front line and midfield if we can get Ramirez playing. Be positive. COYR.
LAM. Ramirez CF. Pelle RAM. Tadic CAM Davis DM. Cork/Wanyama DM. Schneiderlin That looks good to me even without any more additions. That is a strong front line and midfield if we can get Ramirez playing. Be positive. COYR. Purist85
  • Score: -13

4:26pm Sat 5 Jul 14

andygoater1957 says...

loosehead wrote:
Teletext says Schneiderlein not going to return to force us to sell him? so two players playing the same game? This whole mass exodus seems to be very well co ordinated so who's behind it?
Great if we get these two new players as that could attract more top quality players to replace this scum who are dropping us in it.
Ada? was first
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: Teletext says Schneiderlein not going to return to force us to sell him? so two players playing the same game? This whole mass exodus seems to be very well co ordinated so who's behind it? Great if we get these two new players as that could attract more top quality players to replace this scum who are dropping us in it.[/p][/quote]Ada? was first andygoater1957
  • Score: 3

5:01pm Sat 5 Jul 14

spratt says...

loosehead wrote:
Teletext says Schneiderlein not going to return to force us to sell him? so two players playing the same game? This whole mass exodus seems to be very well co ordinated so who's behind it?
Great if we get these two new players as that could attract more top quality players to replace this scum who are dropping us in it.
Could it be a little man with an interpreter who couldn't speak English at SFC? One thing must be clear - do not allow any players to go to Tottenham.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: Teletext says Schneiderlein not going to return to force us to sell him? so two players playing the same game? This whole mass exodus seems to be very well co ordinated so who's behind it? Great if we get these two new players as that could attract more top quality players to replace this scum who are dropping us in it.[/p][/quote]Could it be a little man with an interpreter who couldn't speak English at SFC? One thing must be clear - do not allow any players to go to Tottenham. spratt
  • Score: 8

5:01pm Sat 5 Jul 14

milton road says...

The most reputable and respectable of papers the Daily Star said Schneiderlin would not be back, not because he refused to play but because his departure was imminent. This is the Daily Star folks a Mickey Mouse paper, it may be true it may not but there is a lot of interest in Spiderman. If he goes I would prefer to see him go abroad.
I remember when Keegan left Saints after a bust up with Big Mac it seemed to be the end of an era but we actually went on to finish in the semi finals of the FA cup and runners up in the league and semi finalists in league cup after he left all in the period of around 5 years. maybe we would of won something had he stayed, but we didn't fall apart. When Channon left us in the old league 2 after winning the cup it seemed like the end of aspirations to get back to the top, but we did it without him.
I believe we have a good manager and we will regroup and survive and progress and hopefully with a stronger squad.
If players really want to go, you can leave them out of the side and let them sweat if they won't play. Yet what is the point, it will not solve things. What you do is stick a hefty price on them and wait for the price to be matched.
You ensure you invest the money wisely in players that are even better. The problem we have is the emotional ties to some of these players. They symbolized the rebirth of the club. We thought they would stay forever, we believed their heart was in the club which is a foolish thing to do in football.
The most reputable and respectable of papers the Daily Star said Schneiderlin would not be back, not because he refused to play but because his departure was imminent. This is the Daily Star folks a Mickey Mouse paper, it may be true it may not but there is a lot of interest in Spiderman. If he goes I would prefer to see him go abroad. I remember when Keegan left Saints after a bust up with Big Mac it seemed to be the end of an era but we actually went on to finish in the semi finals of the FA cup and runners up in the league and semi finalists in league cup after he left all in the period of around 5 years. maybe we would of won something had he stayed, but we didn't fall apart. When Channon left us in the old league 2 after winning the cup it seemed like the end of aspirations to get back to the top, but we did it without him. I believe we have a good manager and we will regroup and survive and progress and hopefully with a stronger squad. If players really want to go, you can leave them out of the side and let them sweat if they won't play. Yet what is the point, it will not solve things. What you do is stick a hefty price on them and wait for the price to be matched. You ensure you invest the money wisely in players that are even better. The problem we have is the emotional ties to some of these players. They symbolized the rebirth of the club. We thought they would stay forever, we believed their heart was in the club which is a foolish thing to do in football. milton road
  • Score: 3

5:03pm Sat 5 Jul 14

jls217 says...

InCortesewetrust wrote:
I read arsen is trying his luck with a BOGOF offer, this is comical, he still thinks we are the pathetic little south coast pushover team in desperate need of cash we used to be, http://www.ibtimes.c

o.uk/arsenal-ready-3

0m-bid-southampton-d

uo-morgan-schneiderl

in-dejan-lovren-1455

419
Hate to see 'em go but it's their choice and for £40M plus a mill for every year they play for Arseandall we can live with it. Would prefer to see both of them go foreign clubs though.

For 30 mill they are having a giraffe!
[quote][p][bold]InCortesewetrust[/bold] wrote: I read arsen is trying his luck with a BOGOF offer, this is comical, he still thinks we are the pathetic little south coast pushover team in desperate need of cash we used to be, http://www.ibtimes.c o.uk/arsenal-ready-3 0m-bid-southampton-d uo-morgan-schneiderl in-dejan-lovren-1455 419[/p][/quote]Hate to see 'em go but it's their choice and for £40M plus a mill for every year they play for Arseandall we can live with it. Would prefer to see both of them go foreign clubs though. For 30 mill they are having a giraffe! jls217
  • Score: -12

5:10pm Sat 5 Jul 14

jls217 says...

hedge end bob wrote:
It's about time a club stood up to players that demand moves after signing long contracts. IMO they only got to say we expect you to honour what you accepted when you siged the contract, you are not for sale. If you refuse to play for this club you will be in default of your contract and will not be paid until you play again. We expect you to give this club 100% while you are here and if we feel this is not the case you will train alone on the common until you show the manager you are ready to perform to the standards we know you can perform. The ball is at your feet and so is your future career not only with this club but the rest of the footballing world you have to give some thought. Now should'nt you be out there training.
Funny - I could see the old style football manager saying something along these lines (and this is just to the agents) but the modern ones do not seem to want this sort of confrontation.

Could you see any player ever dictating terms with Sir Alex?
[quote][p][bold]hedge end bob[/bold] wrote: It's about time a club stood up to players that demand moves after signing long contracts. IMO they only got to say we expect you to honour what you accepted when you siged the contract, you are not for sale. If you refuse to play for this club you will be in default of your contract and will not be paid until you play again. We expect you to give this club 100% while you are here and if we feel this is not the case you will train alone on the common until you show the manager you are ready to perform to the standards we know you can perform. The ball is at your feet and so is your future career not only with this club but the rest of the footballing world you have to give some thought. Now should'nt you be out there training.[/p][/quote]Funny - I could see the old style football manager saying something along these lines (and this is just to the agents) but the modern ones do not seem to want this sort of confrontation. Could you see any player ever dictating terms with Sir Alex? jls217
  • Score: -18

5:11pm Sat 5 Jul 14

peregrine73 says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
Wtf... West ham sign cresswell from ipswich.what is les doing? By far the best left back in the championship and only 24 and only cost west ham 4million.i know targett is coming through but he is not ready.clyne and chambers one side and cresswell an targett in the other.who are we going after? Some foreign journeyman.
Any bid for ings or will we leave him for the hammers as well? Any bid for caulker or will we just let qpr have him.if we are losing out or not bothering with these players we must really be eyeing up some top quality replacements.some how I think not.
Sack the board.
LES REED OUT
Well put,the reason there are no signings is simple!,they don't want to come a club hell bent on cashing in on transfers out for the financial return.This is the reality,the board want to make as much money as possible ,its about time the fans realise this and take action by voting no confidence in the board.If the board stay then expect further sells and a decline in the clubs fortune and position.
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Wtf... West ham sign cresswell from ipswich.what is les doing? By far the best left back in the championship and only 24 and only cost west ham 4million.i know targett is coming through but he is not ready.clyne and chambers one side and cresswell an targett in the other.who are we going after? Some foreign journeyman. Any bid for ings or will we leave him for the hammers as well? Any bid for caulker or will we just let qpr have him.if we are losing out or not bothering with these players we must really be eyeing up some top quality replacements.some how I think not. Sack the board. LES REED OUT[/p][/quote]Well put,the reason there are no signings is simple!,they don't want to come a club hell bent on cashing in on transfers out for the financial return.This is the reality,the board want to make as much money as possible ,its about time the fans realise this and take action by voting no confidence in the board.If the board stay then expect further sells and a decline in the clubs fortune and position. peregrine73
  • Score: 5

5:25pm Sat 5 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Talking falcon rubbish.
Talking falcon rubbish. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -2

5:27pm Sat 5 Jul 14

warrens 76 says...

We will IF the board are clevr be the new sustainable BIlboa..
Something inside me say's doom and gloom aside we just might have a plan..

However what do YOU think!
We will IF the board are clevr be the new sustainable BIlboa.. Something inside me say's doom and gloom aside we just might have a plan.. However what do YOU think! warrens 76
  • Score: 3

5:28pm Sat 5 Jul 14

warrens 76 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Talking falcon rubbish.
you have a eagle eye..
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: Talking falcon rubbish.[/p][/quote]you have a eagle eye.. warrens 76
  • Score: 5

5:34pm Sat 5 Jul 14

BarnetSaint says...

I'd like to know what in the hell has gone on behind the scenes to prompt such an exodus.
Rumours are that it's clueless and hapless les reed who has upset a few people.
And where has Kruger disappeared?
I'd like to know what in the hell has gone on behind the scenes to prompt such an exodus. Rumours are that it's clueless and hapless les reed who has upset a few people. And where has Kruger disappeared? BarnetSaint
  • Score: 4

5:44pm Sat 5 Jul 14

jls217 says...

BarnetSaint wrote:
I'd like to know what in the hell has gone on behind the scenes to prompt such an exodus.
Rumours are that it's clueless and hapless les reed who has upset a few people.
And where has Kruger disappeared?
Well I suspect most of us on here would like the definitive answer to the mass exodus but we are unlikely to get it so there's no point worrying about it.
Freddie should disappear and like most chairmen only wheeled out in front of a microphone at the beginning and the end and at an important news conference at all other times Chairmen should be invisible and silent.
As for Les - Wonder if he had anything to do with bringing the FA coaches to the club as they have worked with him before and respect him? Leave you to work that one out for yourself.
Why not just enjoy the season and leave the judgmental nonsense till the end of the season?
[quote][p][bold]BarnetSaint[/bold] wrote: I'd like to know what in the hell has gone on behind the scenes to prompt such an exodus. Rumours are that it's clueless and hapless les reed who has upset a few people. And where has Kruger disappeared?[/p][/quote]Well I suspect most of us on here would like the definitive answer to the mass exodus but we are unlikely to get it so there's no point worrying about it. Freddie should disappear and like most chairmen only wheeled out in front of a microphone at the beginning and the end and at an important news conference at all other times Chairmen should be invisible and silent. As for Les - Wonder if he had anything to do with bringing the FA coaches to the club as they have worked with him before and respect him? Leave you to work that one out for yourself. Why not just enjoy the season and leave the judgmental nonsense till the end of the season? jls217
  • Score: -11

5:47pm Sat 5 Jul 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

well we are half way through the argentine v Belgium quarter final and yet again Marouane Fellaini looks absolutely awful! manure paid£27.5mill for him and he has done nothing since. a decent season or two at everton and that's it. liellana take notice!

perhaps liellana should have grown some stupid hair, apart from his bum fluff of a beard, then we might have got a couple more million for him!
well we are half way through the argentine v Belgium quarter final and yet again Marouane Fellaini looks absolutely awful! manure paid£27.5mill for him and he has done nothing since. a decent season or two at everton and that's it. liellana take notice! perhaps liellana should have grown some stupid hair, apart from his bum fluff of a beard, then we might have got a couple more million for him! de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: -2

5:54pm Sat 5 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

BarnetSaint wrote:
I'd like to know what in the hell has gone on behind the scenes to prompt such an exodus.
Rumours are that it's clueless and hapless les reed who has upset a few people.
And where has Kruger disappeared?
Rumours?
[quote][p][bold]BarnetSaint[/bold] wrote: I'd like to know what in the hell has gone on behind the scenes to prompt such an exodus. Rumours are that it's clueless and hapless les reed who has upset a few people. And where has Kruger disappeared?[/p][/quote]Rumours? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 4

6:13pm Sat 5 Jul 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

BarnetSaint wrote:
I'd like to know what in the hell has gone on behind the scenes to prompt such an exodus.
Rumours are that it's clueless and hapless les reed who has upset a few people.
And where has Kruger disappeared?
would that be the same les reed who has been working with the same players for over 4 years? yet all of a sudden they are upset with him.
rumours like that start because people have read, or been told, what was in gerrard the bottlers autobiography;
"I felt they could have shown me more sympathy. They were always pushing me, telling me to buck up my ideas."

He added: "They didn't seem to understand that not everyone can board a plane, settle in a strange hotel far from the family they love and find it easy.

"My homesickness worsened whenever I was forced to be in their company."
so a grown man who was 20yrs old couldn't get on a plane or settle in a strange hotel without someone holding his hand! gerrard was an England international at the time and would have travelled a lot with diverpooh, possibly in Europe! I think it says more about the bottler than it does about reed.
how many of us have been on foreign holidays before we were 20? getting onto planes, that weren't a special charter for pampered footballers, getting to, checking in and settling into hotels without people doing it for you or speaking the language, and without 25 mates with you. England would have done everything for them and yet he still whines and blames others.

no one has said a thing about les reed at saints for the entre time he was here, yet NC goes and suddenly everything is his fault! do me a favour.

Ralph is apparently on holiday, that's why we haven't heard from him! as is the saints web site by the looks of it. rumour has it that Brenda h been eyeing a move for our OS for some time and the board have turned down a bid from him. the OS has gone on strike and refuses to be accessed until the board sell it! the mobile OS has just got back from brazil and is working to rule, it will only allow access occasionally.
[quote][p][bold]BarnetSaint[/bold] wrote: I'd like to know what in the hell has gone on behind the scenes to prompt such an exodus. Rumours are that it's clueless and hapless les reed who has upset a few people. And where has Kruger disappeared?[/p][/quote]would that be the same les reed who has been working with the same players for over 4 years? yet all of a sudden they are upset with him. rumours like that start because people have read, or been told, what was in gerrard the bottlers autobiography; "I felt they could have shown me more sympathy. They were always pushing me, telling me to buck up my ideas." He added: "They didn't seem to understand that not everyone can board a plane, settle in a strange hotel far from the family they love and find it easy. "My homesickness worsened whenever I was forced to be in their company." so a grown man who was 20yrs old couldn't get on a plane or settle in a strange hotel without someone holding his hand! gerrard was an England international at the time and would have travelled a lot with diverpooh, possibly in Europe! I think it says more about the bottler than it does about reed. how many of us have been on foreign holidays before we were 20? getting onto planes, that weren't a special charter for pampered footballers, getting to, checking in and settling into hotels without people doing it for you or speaking the language, and without 25 mates with you. England would have done everything for them and yet he still whines and blames others. no one has said a thing about les reed at saints for the entre time he was here, yet NC goes and suddenly everything is his fault! do me a favour. Ralph is apparently on holiday, that's why we haven't heard from him! as is the saints web site by the looks of it. rumour has it that Brenda h been eyeing a move for our OS for some time and the board have turned down a bid from him. the OS has gone on strike and refuses to be accessed until the board sell it! the mobile OS has just got back from brazil and is working to rule, it will only allow access occasionally. de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: -13

6:35pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Chapperall says...

InsideOutCat wrote:
Confucious wrote:
Get rid of Lovren ASAP. No point in keeping £20m sat in the reserves p!ssing everyone else off.

He looks well suited to Liverpool - the world's most powerful @rsehole magnet.
I think I saw one of those in a shop window in Brighton
Probably more than one in Brighton I would suggest!
[quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Confucious[/bold] wrote: Get rid of Lovren ASAP. No point in keeping £20m sat in the reserves p!ssing everyone else off. He looks well suited to Liverpool - the world's most powerful @rsehole magnet.[/p][/quote]I think I saw one of those in a shop window in Brighton[/p][/quote]Probably more than one in Brighton I would suggest! Chapperall
  • Score: 1

6:42pm Sat 5 Jul 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

mack chinnon wrote:
Im in Rotterdam for the night. Should be fun.
If you get a chance try a Belgium Blond ;o)
.......... Lager (strong and can give you a headache) ...
a change from Stella and the traditional Continental FIGHTING Lagers
COYR+WS
[quote][p][bold]mack chinnon[/bold] wrote: Im in Rotterdam for the night. Should be fun.[/p][/quote]If you get a chance try a Belgium Blond ;o) .......... Lager (strong and can give you a headache) ... a change from Stella and the traditional Continental FIGHTING Lagers COYR+WS The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: 1

8:12pm Sat 5 Jul 14

vidman says...

I may be wrong but this unrest started the day they said that Guly was being released. The players knew he was a talisman took ALL the stick week in week out. Always gave his best (well so he told us) and at the end of the season LR said 'Guly your fired' The player thought if he goes it ma be me next. 'I'm out of here'.
So it is Guly's fault!!!
I may be wrong but this unrest started the day they said that Guly was being released. The players knew he was a talisman took ALL the stick week in week out. Always gave his best (well so he told us) and at the end of the season LR said 'Guly your fired' The player thought if he goes it ma be me next. 'I'm out of here'. So it is Guly's fault!!! vidman
  • Score: 8

8:14pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Crossley Place Saint says...

peregrine73 wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Wtf... West ham sign cresswell from ipswich.what is les doing? By far the best left back in the championship and only 24 and only cost west ham 4million.i know targett is coming through but he is not ready.clyne and chambers one side and cresswell an targett in the other.who are we going after? Some foreign journeyman.
Any bid for ings or will we leave him for the hammers as well? Any bid for caulker or will we just let qpr have him.if we are losing out or not bothering with these players we must really be eyeing up some top quality replacements.some how I think not.
Sack the board.
LES REED OUT
Well put,the reason there are no signings is simple!,they don't want to come a club hell bent on cashing in on transfers out for the financial return.This is the reality,the board want to make as much money as possible ,its about time the fans realise this and take action by voting no confidence in the board.If the board stay then expect further sells and a decline in the clubs fortune and position.
Yes, but how exactly are us fans supposed to "vote no confidence in the board"? The Club has only one shareholder, KL, the owner, and the board are doing her bidding, by selling players to raise cash which can be paid out to her.
[quote][p][bold]peregrine73[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Wtf... West ham sign cresswell from ipswich.what is les doing? By far the best left back in the championship and only 24 and only cost west ham 4million.i know targett is coming through but he is not ready.clyne and chambers one side and cresswell an targett in the other.who are we going after? Some foreign journeyman. Any bid for ings or will we leave him for the hammers as well? Any bid for caulker or will we just let qpr have him.if we are losing out or not bothering with these players we must really be eyeing up some top quality replacements.some how I think not. Sack the board. LES REED OUT[/p][/quote]Well put,the reason there are no signings is simple!,they don't want to come a club hell bent on cashing in on transfers out for the financial return.This is the reality,the board want to make as much money as possible ,its about time the fans realise this and take action by voting no confidence in the board.If the board stay then expect further sells and a decline in the clubs fortune and position.[/p][/quote]Yes, but how exactly are us fans supposed to "vote no confidence in the board"? The Club has only one shareholder, KL, the owner, and the board are doing her bidding, by selling players to raise cash which can be paid out to her. Crossley Place Saint
  • Score: 3

8:24pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Crossley Place Saint says...

Evidently we need to sign a lot of players. On the OS, according to the "players" section at the bottom RH, we only have five players: Davis, Clyne, Lovren, Wanyama and Osvaldo.
Evidently we need to sign a lot of players. On the OS, according to the "players" section at the bottom RH, we only have five players: Davis, Clyne, Lovren, Wanyama and Osvaldo. Crossley Place Saint
  • Score: 0

8:27pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Crossley Place Saint says...

The full list is here:
http://www.saintsfc.
co.uk/team/

and it doesn't look too grand.
The full list is here: http://www.saintsfc. co.uk/team/ and it doesn't look too grand. Crossley Place Saint
  • Score: 2

8:38pm Sat 5 Jul 14

jls217 says...

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
The full list is here:
http://www.saintsfc.

co.uk/team/

and it doesn't look too grand.
The cupboard's not bare but that one looks pretty close to it.
At lease three of those won't be with us any longer. One is injured till maybe Xmas.
Two are unlikely to make the grade. Hoiveld and Mayuka.

How many of the others are u21 - and we all know you win nothing with Kids.

Whoever comes in as reinforcements need to be up to the grade and hit the ground running.

If Spider and Lovren can be convinced to solider on the future still looks bright without them the best we can hope for is around mid-table.
It's going to be a great season regardless.
[quote][p][bold]Crossley Place Saint[/bold] wrote: The full list is here: http://www.saintsfc. co.uk/team/ and it doesn't look too grand.[/p][/quote]The cupboard's not bare but that one looks pretty close to it. At lease three of those won't be with us any longer. One is injured till maybe Xmas. Two are unlikely to make the grade. Hoiveld and Mayuka. How many of the others are u21 - and we all know you win nothing with Kids. Whoever comes in as reinforcements need to be up to the grade and hit the ground running. If Spider and Lovren can be convinced to solider on the future still looks bright without them the best we can hope for is around mid-table. It's going to be a great season regardless. jls217
  • Score: -16

8:43pm Sat 5 Jul 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
Evidently we need to sign a lot of players. On the OS, according to the "players" section at the bottom RH, we only have five players: Davis, Clyne, Lovren, Wanyama and Osvaldo.
exactly the same as it did last year, I think we had more than 5 players then didn't we?

it looks as if you are trying to suggest that KL is `asset stripping`, is that a correct assumption?
if so could you please explain why a multi-billionaire would haggle with manure and diverpooh over a couple of million pounds? also if she wanted out and to make as much as she could in the process do you not think that she should have sold whilst all the best players were here? selling the players we have has surely decreased the value of the club to an extent where she would actually be worse off selling now. I know it doesn't fit in with the grand `asset stripping` theory but there you go.
oh and as for the player list, theres actually only about 3 less than last season, take out liellana, shaw thing, rickie and guly but add mayuka to the list. the season is still a few weeks away so you also have to add the players RK is going to bring in before it starts!
[quote][p][bold]Crossley Place Saint[/bold] wrote: Evidently we need to sign a lot of players. On the OS, according to the "players" section at the bottom RH, we only have five players: Davis, Clyne, Lovren, Wanyama and Osvaldo.[/p][/quote]exactly the same as it did last year, I think we had more than 5 players then didn't we? it looks as if you are trying to suggest that KL is `asset stripping`, is that a correct assumption? if so could you please explain why a multi-billionaire would haggle with manure and diverpooh over a couple of million pounds? also if she wanted out and to make as much as she could in the process do you not think that she should have sold whilst all the best players were here? selling the players we have has surely decreased the value of the club to an extent where she would actually be worse off selling now. I know it doesn't fit in with the grand `asset stripping` theory but there you go. oh and as for the player list, theres actually only about 3 less than last season, take out liellana, shaw thing, rickie and guly but add mayuka to the list. the season is still a few weeks away so you also have to add the players RK is going to bring in before it starts! de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: -10

8:48pm Sat 5 Jul 14

jls217 says...

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
peregrine73 wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Wtf... West ham sign cresswell from ipswich.what is les doing? By far the best left back in the championship and only 24 and only cost west ham 4million.i know targett is coming through but he is not ready.clyne and chambers one side and cresswell an targett in the other.who are we going after? Some foreign journeyman.
Any bid for ings or will we leave him for the hammers as well? Any bid for caulker or will we just let qpr have him.if we are losing out or not bothering with these players we must really be eyeing up some top quality replacements.some how I think not.
Sack the board.
LES REED OUT
Well put,the reason there are no signings is simple!,they don't want to come a club hell bent on cashing in on transfers out for the financial return.This is the reality,the board want to make as much money as possible ,its about time the fans realise this and take action by voting no confidence in the board.If the board stay then expect further sells and a decline in the clubs fortune and position.
Yes, but how exactly are us fans supposed to "vote no confidence in the board"? The Club has only one shareholder, KL, the owner, and the board are doing her bidding, by selling players to raise cash which can be paid out to her.
We are told that all money coming in from players out will be available for players in. As far as we know there is also a little on top of that amount. So as things stand perhaps you could point out where KL has indicated she wants to let alone has banked the money from transfers for herself - which she is entitled to do as she owns the club outright.

None of these players have been put up for sale they have all demanded a move - and nobody outside those directly involved knows just why. You can bet the doubling of their wages is a factor though.

Perhaps you can explain why we would want Les Reed out for that.

In time there may be some evidence of who done what at the club but as yet there is none.

I ask now for about the fourth time. As you as so keen to have the board sacked, perhaps you can describe to us exactly how we do that please. There are no shareholders as in plural there is one - KL. So firstly how do we get rid of her and secondly why would we want to? U
[quote][p][bold]Crossley Place Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]peregrine73[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Wtf... West ham sign cresswell from ipswich.what is les doing? By far the best left back in the championship and only 24 and only cost west ham 4million.i know targett is coming through but he is not ready.clyne and chambers one side and cresswell an targett in the other.who are we going after? Some foreign journeyman. Any bid for ings or will we leave him for the hammers as well? Any bid for caulker or will we just let qpr have him.if we are losing out or not bothering with these players we must really be eyeing up some top quality replacements.some how I think not. Sack the board. LES REED OUT[/p][/quote]Well put,the reason there are no signings is simple!,they don't want to come a club hell bent on cashing in on transfers out for the financial return.This is the reality,the board want to make as much money as possible ,its about time the fans realise this and take action by voting no confidence in the board.If the board stay then expect further sells and a decline in the clubs fortune and position.[/p][/quote]Yes, but how exactly are us fans supposed to "vote no confidence in the board"? The Club has only one shareholder, KL, the owner, and the board are doing her bidding, by selling players to raise cash which can be paid out to her.[/p][/quote]We are told that all money coming in from players out will be available for players in. As far as we know there is also a little on top of that amount. So as things stand perhaps you could point out where KL has indicated she wants to let alone has banked the money from transfers for herself - which she is entitled to do as she owns the club outright. None of these players have been put up for sale they have all demanded a move - and nobody outside those directly involved knows just why. You can bet the doubling of their wages is a factor though. Perhaps you can explain why we would want Les Reed out for that. In time there may be some evidence of who done what at the club but as yet there is none. I ask now for about the fourth time. As you as so keen to have the board sacked, perhaps you can describe to us exactly how we do that please. There are no shareholders as in plural there is one - KL. So firstly how do we get rid of her and secondly why would we want to? U jls217
  • Score: -11

8:55pm Sat 5 Jul 14

jls217 says...

Continued from above - Under her ownership we have just had the best season ever - so again why would we want her out?

She may if someone comes in with the necessary sell all or part of the club - that's her prerogative.

Do you really think she in this to lose money? No more than you would want to lose money if you'd set up a business - so stop talking drivel. I hope she makes millions and millions and it keeps her happy enough in her investment to stay for years and give us the stability we need right through the club.

Why not think before you post such absolute inaccurate drivel and blx - you have brains so engage brain before mouth eh!?
Continued from above - Under her ownership we have just had the best season ever - so again why would we want her out? She may if someone comes in with the necessary sell all or part of the club - that's her prerogative. Do you really think she in this to lose money? No more than you would want to lose money if you'd set up a business - so stop talking drivel. I hope she makes millions and millions and it keeps her happy enough in her investment to stay for years and give us the stability we need right through the club. Why not think before you post such absolute inaccurate drivel and blx - you have brains so engage brain before mouth eh!? jls217
  • Score: -8

9:06pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Crossley Place Saint says...

jls217 wrote:
Crossley Place Saint wrote:
peregrine73 wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Wtf... West ham sign cresswell from ipswich.what is les doing? By far the best left back in the championship and only 24 and only cost west ham 4million.i know targett is coming through but he is not ready.clyne and chambers one side and cresswell an targett in the other.who are we going after? Some foreign journeyman.
Any bid for ings or will we leave him for the hammers as well? Any bid for caulker or will we just let qpr have him.if we are losing out or not bothering with these players we must really be eyeing up some top quality replacements.some how I think not.
Sack the board.
LES REED OUT
Well put,the reason there are no signings is simple!,they don't want to come a club hell bent on cashing in on transfers out for the financial return.This is the reality,the board want to make as much money as possible ,its about time the fans realise this and take action by voting no confidence in the board.If the board stay then expect further sells and a decline in the clubs fortune and position.
Yes, but how exactly are us fans supposed to "vote no confidence in the board"? The Club has only one shareholder, KL, the owner, and the board are doing her bidding, by selling players to raise cash which can be paid out to her.
We are told that all money coming in from players out will be available for players in. As far as we know there is also a little on top of that amount. So as things stand perhaps you could point out where KL has indicated she wants to let alone has banked the money from transfers for herself - which she is entitled to do as she owns the club outright.

None of these players have been put up for sale they have all demanded a move - and nobody outside those directly involved knows just why. You can bet the doubling of their wages is a factor though.

Perhaps you can explain why we would want Les Reed out for that.

In time there may be some evidence of who done what at the club but as yet there is none.

I ask now for about the fourth time. As you as so keen to have the board sacked, perhaps you can describe to us exactly how we do that please. There are no shareholders as in plural there is one - KL. So firstly how do we get rid of her and secondly why would we want to? U
I didn't say I was "keen to have the board sacked". Someone suggested that we (fans) should "vote no confidence in the board". I pointed out that this was technically and legally impossible, since our owner can do what she likes with the club. My comment about "only 5 players" was meant to be light=hearted, a la Osprey, really to poke fun at an obvious flaw in the OS. Then I looked at the full list of players on the OS, and made a more serious comment which you evidently agreed with.

I don't understand what has been happening to our club since last season - that wonderful season - ended. But we're all on the same side here.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crossley Place Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]peregrine73[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Wtf... West ham sign cresswell from ipswich.what is les doing? By far the best left back in the championship and only 24 and only cost west ham 4million.i know targett is coming through but he is not ready.clyne and chambers one side and cresswell an targett in the other.who are we going after? Some foreign journeyman. Any bid for ings or will we leave him for the hammers as well? Any bid for caulker or will we just let qpr have him.if we are losing out or not bothering with these players we must really be eyeing up some top quality replacements.some how I think not. Sack the board. LES REED OUT[/p][/quote]Well put,the reason there are no signings is simple!,they don't want to come a club hell bent on cashing in on transfers out for the financial return.This is the reality,the board want to make as much money as possible ,its about time the fans realise this and take action by voting no confidence in the board.If the board stay then expect further sells and a decline in the clubs fortune and position.[/p][/quote]Yes, but how exactly are us fans supposed to "vote no confidence in the board"? The Club has only one shareholder, KL, the owner, and the board are doing her bidding, by selling players to raise cash which can be paid out to her.[/p][/quote]We are told that all money coming in from players out will be available for players in. As far as we know there is also a little on top of that amount. So as things stand perhaps you could point out where KL has indicated she wants to let alone has banked the money from transfers for herself - which she is entitled to do as she owns the club outright. None of these players have been put up for sale they have all demanded a move - and nobody outside those directly involved knows just why. You can bet the doubling of their wages is a factor though. Perhaps you can explain why we would want Les Reed out for that. In time there may be some evidence of who done what at the club but as yet there is none. I ask now for about the fourth time. As you as so keen to have the board sacked, perhaps you can describe to us exactly how we do that please. There are no shareholders as in plural there is one - KL. So firstly how do we get rid of her and secondly why would we want to? U[/p][/quote]I didn't say I was "keen to have the board sacked". Someone suggested that we (fans) should "vote no confidence in the board". I pointed out that this was technically and legally impossible, since our owner can do what she likes with the club. My comment about "only 5 players" was meant to be light=hearted, a la Osprey, really to poke fun at an obvious flaw in the OS. Then I looked at the full list of players on the OS, and made a more serious comment which you evidently agreed with. I don't understand what has been happening to our club since last season - that wonderful season - ended. But we're all on the same side here. Crossley Place Saint
  • Score: 10

9:08pm Sat 5 Jul 14

jls217 says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
well we are half way through the argentine v Belgium quarter final and yet again Marouane Fellaini looks absolutely awful! manure paid£27.5mill for him and he has done nothing since. a decent season or two at everton and that's it. liellana take notice!

perhaps liellana should have grown some stupid hair, apart from his bum fluff of a beard, then we might have got a couple more million for him!
Perhaps he should have grown some balls and told us the truth about what he was planning when he started planning it instead of tossing in the grenade and forgetting to tell us to duck.

Liarllana has a lot to answer for but he's above that now and no longer of any interest to us. It won't break my heart if it all caves in for him.
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: well we are half way through the argentine v Belgium quarter final and yet again Marouane Fellaini looks absolutely awful! manure paid£27.5mill for him and he has done nothing since. a decent season or two at everton and that's it. liellana take notice! perhaps liellana should have grown some stupid hair, apart from his bum fluff of a beard, then we might have got a couple more million for him![/p][/quote]Perhaps he should have grown some balls and told us the truth about what he was planning when he started planning it instead of tossing in the grenade and forgetting to tell us to duck. Liarllana has a lot to answer for but he's above that now and no longer of any interest to us. It won't break my heart if it all caves in for him. jls217
  • Score: -10

9:18pm Sat 5 Jul 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

come on costa rica!
come on costa rica! de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 0

9:20pm Sat 5 Jul 14

jls217 says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
BarnetSaint wrote:
I'd like to know what in the hell has gone on behind the scenes to prompt such an exodus.
Rumours are that it's clueless and hapless les reed who has upset a few people.
And where has Kruger disappeared?
would that be the same les reed who has been working with the same players for over 4 years? yet all of a sudden they are upset with him.
rumours like that start because people have read, or been told, what was in gerrard the bottlers autobiography;
"I felt they could have shown me more sympathy. They were always pushing me, telling me to buck up my ideas."

He added: "They didn't seem to understand that not everyone can board a plane, settle in a strange hotel far from the family they love and find it easy.

"My homesickness worsened whenever I was forced to be in their company."
so a grown man who was 20yrs old couldn't get on a plane or settle in a strange hotel without someone holding his hand! gerrard was an England international at the time and would have travelled a lot with diverpooh, possibly in Europe! I think it says more about the bottler than it does about reed.
how many of us have been on foreign holidays before we were 20? getting onto planes, that weren't a special charter for pampered footballers, getting to, checking in and settling into hotels without people doing it for you or speaking the language, and without 25 mates with you. England would have done everything for them and yet he still whines and blames others.

no one has said a thing about les reed at saints for the entre time he was here, yet NC goes and suddenly everything is his fault! do me a favour.

Ralph is apparently on holiday, that's why we haven't heard from him! as is the saints web site by the looks of it. rumour has it that Brenda h been eyeing a move for our OS for some time and the board have turned down a bid from him. the OS has gone on strike and refuses to be accessed until the board sell it! the mobile OS has just got back from brazil and is working to rule, it will only allow access occasionally.
I joined the army at 15, at 17 i was off abroad for months maybe years. I was on min wage and with everyone 18 and above striving to put their boots up my arse, taking the **** or winning my pittance of a wage by cheating me at cards. His story breaks my tender heart. What a selfpitying, pathetic specimen of manhood Gerrard must be.

Time to back off Les Reed - He has one great thing going for him over all of those, through lack of intelligence baying for his resignation. that is he does his level best for Saints on a daily basis and if he fails today he gets up tomorrow and tries to set it all back right again - unlike the whining, whinging individuals determined to give the man no credit for his efforts. We all know you could do the job better so why not submit your cv's to the club, guaranteed to get his job 'cos you're legends in your own mind and world famous in Totton.
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BarnetSaint[/bold] wrote: I'd like to know what in the hell has gone on behind the scenes to prompt such an exodus. Rumours are that it's clueless and hapless les reed who has upset a few people. And where has Kruger disappeared?[/p][/quote]would that be the same les reed who has been working with the same players for over 4 years? yet all of a sudden they are upset with him. rumours like that start because people have read, or been told, what was in gerrard the bottlers autobiography; "I felt they could have shown me more sympathy. They were always pushing me, telling me to buck up my ideas." He added: "They didn't seem to understand that not everyone can board a plane, settle in a strange hotel far from the family they love and find it easy. "My homesickness worsened whenever I was forced to be in their company." so a grown man who was 20yrs old couldn't get on a plane or settle in a strange hotel without someone holding his hand! gerrard was an England international at the time and would have travelled a lot with diverpooh, possibly in Europe! I think it says more about the bottler than it does about reed. how many of us have been on foreign holidays before we were 20? getting onto planes, that weren't a special charter for pampered footballers, getting to, checking in and settling into hotels without people doing it for you or speaking the language, and without 25 mates with you. England would have done everything for them and yet he still whines and blames others. no one has said a thing about les reed at saints for the entre time he was here, yet NC goes and suddenly everything is his fault! do me a favour. Ralph is apparently on holiday, that's why we haven't heard from him! as is the saints web site by the looks of it. rumour has it that Brenda h been eyeing a move for our OS for some time and the board have turned down a bid from him. the OS has gone on strike and refuses to be accessed until the board sell it! the mobile OS has just got back from brazil and is working to rule, it will only allow access occasionally.[/p][/quote]I joined the army at 15, at 17 i was off abroad for months maybe years. I was on min wage and with everyone 18 and above striving to put their boots up my arse, taking the **** or winning my pittance of a wage by cheating me at cards. His story breaks my tender heart. What a selfpitying, pathetic specimen of manhood Gerrard must be. Time to back off Les Reed - He has one great thing going for him over all of those, through lack of intelligence baying for his resignation. that is he does his level best for Saints on a daily basis and if he fails today he gets up tomorrow and tries to set it all back right again - unlike the whining, whinging individuals determined to give the man no credit for his efforts. We all know you could do the job better so why not submit your cv's to the club, guaranteed to get his job 'cos you're legends in your own mind and world famous in Totton. jls217
  • Score: -13

9:53pm Sat 5 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

We ended the Season with a 23 man Senior squad, 8 of which have gone, 9 if Ozvaldo is counted, there are possibly two more looking for an exit, that leaves us extremely short of experienced players, and we are supposed to announce a squad of up to 25 Senior players, no more than 17 can be not home grown. We have a number of Under 21's which can be named in addition to the 25 Seniors. There is no doubt that we will have to get some players with a bit of quality and experience or it will be a real struggle from the start.
We ended the Season with a 23 man Senior squad, 8 of which have gone, 9 if Ozvaldo is counted, there are possibly two more looking for an exit, that leaves us extremely short of experienced players, and we are supposed to announce a squad of up to 25 Senior players, no more than 17 can be not home grown. We have a number of Under 21's which can be named in addition to the 25 Seniors. There is no doubt that we will have to get some players with a bit of quality and experience or it will be a real struggle from the start. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 10

9:56pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Chipmonk1 says...

loosehead wrote:
Teletext says Schneiderlein not going to return to force us to sell him? so two players playing the same game? This whole mass exodus seems to be very well co ordinated so who's behind it?
Great if we get these two new players as that could attract more top quality players to replace this scum who are dropping us in it.
And the Daily Mail reports that Liverpool have turned their attentions elsewhere as it becomes apparent Southampton's Lovren is not for sale. I know no smoke no fire and all that but the only directly attributable comments from Lovren were prior to WC where he said he was a Saints player and any move would be up to the club. I would expect him to at least sit down with RoKo as a chance to work with one of the best centre backs of all time would be good for him. I'm hoping MS stays as I think he would be a bigger loss than the others.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: Teletext says Schneiderlein not going to return to force us to sell him? so two players playing the same game? This whole mass exodus seems to be very well co ordinated so who's behind it? Great if we get these two new players as that could attract more top quality players to replace this scum who are dropping us in it.[/p][/quote]And the Daily Mail reports that Liverpool have turned their attentions elsewhere as it becomes apparent Southampton's Lovren is not for sale. I know no smoke no fire and all that but the only directly attributable comments from Lovren were prior to WC where he said he was a Saints player and any move would be up to the club. I would expect him to at least sit down with RoKo as a chance to work with one of the best centre backs of all time would be good for him. I'm hoping MS stays as I think he would be a bigger loss than the others. Chipmonk1
  • Score: 7

10:16pm Sat 5 Jul 14

saintbobby says...

It is disappointing to see so many comments getting so many thumbs down. Mostly, I do not think they are really deserved.

It would help a lot if only some signings actually happened, and quickly, since all the news is players LEAVING and not in a "happy" way for us fans. We do not like their attitude. But, we have got a new manager and this is encouraging in that he seems to know what to do, but we shall see soon enough.

I reckon the great majority of us are just pi**ed off with those who have gone and the other reported disloyalties. And the Board is very quiet, but I suppose they are at other clubs as well!

A couple or more signings quickly should cheer us all up.

Let's support ourselves with lots of thumbs up - may help us!!
It is disappointing to see so many comments getting so many thumbs down. Mostly, I do not think they are really deserved. It would help a lot if only some signings actually happened, and quickly, since all the news is players LEAVING and not in a "happy" way for us fans. We do not like their attitude. But, we have got a new manager and this is encouraging in that he seems to know what to do, but we shall see soon enough. I reckon the great majority of us are just pi**ed off with those who have gone and the other reported disloyalties. And the Board is very quiet, but I suppose they are at other clubs as well! A couple or more signings quickly should cheer us all up. Let's support ourselves with lots of thumbs up - may help us!! saintbobby
  • Score: -1

10:21pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
come on costa rica!
Personally, I think Katharina should buy Costa Rica.

............... not the team, the country.

Then Ron would have the potential to select from plenty of decent players and a great place for pre-season.
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: come on costa rica![/p][/quote]Personally, I think Katharina should buy Costa Rica. ............... not the team, the country. Then Ron would have the potential to select from plenty of decent players and a great place for pre-season. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 7

10:35pm Sat 5 Jul 14

deepheat says...

Players that are worth a look;-

Will Hughes - Derby
Danny Ings - Burnley
Ross McCormack - Leeds
Players that are worth a look;- Will Hughes - Derby Danny Ings - Burnley Ross McCormack - Leeds deepheat
  • Score: 7

10:54pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Dave Brown says...

The manner in which the board placed the season tickets on sale early and then selling three English International players is I feel a total con trick played on the supporters who purchased their tickets.
I am sure Les Reed and the board knew they would be selling and raising funds to clear the debts.
Do not believe the funds raised to date will be re invested in quality players.
Once the club is totally debt free I feel we could see the For Sale signs go up outside St Marys offers in excess of £150 million a few players available to sell on.
The manner in which the board placed the season tickets on sale early and then selling three English International players is I feel a total con trick played on the supporters who purchased their tickets. I am sure Les Reed and the board knew they would be selling and raising funds to clear the debts. Do not believe the funds raised to date will be re invested in quality players. Once the club is totally debt free I feel we could see the For Sale signs go up outside St Marys offers in excess of £150 million a few players available to sell on. Dave Brown
  • Score: 10

11:15pm Sat 5 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Dave Brown wrote:
The manner in which the board placed the season tickets on sale early and then selling three English International players is I feel a total con trick played on the supporters who purchased their tickets.
I am sure Les Reed and the board knew they would be selling and raising funds to clear the debts.
Do not believe the funds raised to date will be re invested in quality players.
Once the club is totally debt free I feel we could see the For Sale signs go up outside St Marys offers in excess of £150 million a few players available to sell on.
Thank you for yet another positive contribution, how well will the Skates do this season? I like David Brown tractors, I don't rate Dave Brown posters.
[quote][p][bold]Dave Brown[/bold] wrote: The manner in which the board placed the season tickets on sale early and then selling three English International players is I feel a total con trick played on the supporters who purchased their tickets. I am sure Les Reed and the board knew they would be selling and raising funds to clear the debts. Do not believe the funds raised to date will be re invested in quality players. Once the club is totally debt free I feel we could see the For Sale signs go up outside St Marys offers in excess of £150 million a few players available to sell on.[/p][/quote]Thank you for yet another positive contribution, how well will the Skates do this season? I like David Brown tractors, I don't rate Dave Brown posters. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -9

11:26pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Sammy2sheds says...

jasons odd wrote:
I cant comment on Tasic having never seen him play apart from clips ...

But as someone who follows Italian football closely , pelle is a flop in the making . Ask any Italian football fan ,they will tell you pelle is half the striker Osvaldo is .

He couldn't cut it in the Italian league , didnt even shine in seria B . Scoring goals in the rubbish dutch league is easy . Van wolfswinkel, luuk de jong and many many more rubbish strikers have scored hatfulls .

If we dont set our sights higher ...it will be a horrible season .


No faith in Koeman , his record as a manager is poor , and hiring sammy lee is a shocking decision
This is what I have been saying.
The bloke is a dud.some people on here still think saints are going to spend.they are being sold second rate players and they are cheering.
[quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: I cant comment on Tasic having never seen him play apart from clips ... But as someone who follows Italian football closely , pelle is a flop in the making . Ask any Italian football fan ,they will tell you pelle is half the striker Osvaldo is . He couldn't cut it in the Italian league , didnt even shine in seria B . Scoring goals in the rubbish dutch league is easy . Van wolfswinkel, luuk de jong and many many more rubbish strikers have scored hatfulls . If we dont set our sights higher ...it will be a horrible season . No faith in Koeman , his record as a manager is poor , and hiring sammy lee is a shocking decision[/p][/quote]This is what I have been saying. The bloke is a dud.some people on here still think saints are going to spend.they are being sold second rate players and they are cheering. Sammy2sheds
  • Score: 8

11:28pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Dave Brown says...

Like David Brown tractors Osprey The Saints can take you for a ride with their ethics so far relating to the coming season.
Like David Brown tractors Osprey The Saints can take you for a ride with their ethics so far relating to the coming season. Dave Brown
  • Score: 1

11:33pm Sat 5 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
I cant comment on Tasic having never seen him play apart from clips ...

But as someone who follows Italian football closely , pelle is a flop in the making . Ask any Italian football fan ,they will tell you pelle is half the striker Osvaldo is .

He couldn't cut it in the Italian league , didnt even shine in seria B . Scoring goals in the rubbish dutch league is easy . Van wolfswinkel, luuk de jong and many many more rubbish strikers have scored hatfulls .

If we dont set our sights higher ...it will be a horrible season .


No faith in Koeman , his record as a manager is poor , and hiring sammy lee is a shocking decision
This is what I have been saying.
The bloke is a dud.some people on here still think saints are going to spend.they are being sold second rate players and they are cheering.
More positiveness, you contributions are a joy to behold, thank you for kindly sharing your thoughts with us on the matter. I hope you are later proved to be dreadfully wrong, but I can't honestly say what I think will happen because there is so much water to flow down the Itchen before we finally sold down the river and drowned in the depths of despair.
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: I cant comment on Tasic having never seen him play apart from clips ... But as someone who follows Italian football closely , pelle is a flop in the making . Ask any Italian football fan ,they will tell you pelle is half the striker Osvaldo is . He couldn't cut it in the Italian league , didnt even shine in seria B . Scoring goals in the rubbish dutch league is easy . Van wolfswinkel, luuk de jong and many many more rubbish strikers have scored hatfulls . If we dont set our sights higher ...it will be a horrible season . No faith in Koeman , his record as a manager is poor , and hiring sammy lee is a shocking decision[/p][/quote]This is what I have been saying. The bloke is a dud.some people on here still think saints are going to spend.they are being sold second rate players and they are cheering.[/p][/quote]More positiveness, you contributions are a joy to behold, thank you for kindly sharing your thoughts with us on the matter. I hope you are later proved to be dreadfully wrong, but I can't honestly say what I think will happen because there is so much water to flow down the Itchen before we finally sold down the river and drowned in the depths of despair. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -8

11:34pm Sat 5 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Dave Brown wrote:
Like David Brown tractors Osprey The Saints can take you for a ride with their ethics so far relating to the coming season.
You are a Saints supporter?
[quote][p][bold]Dave Brown[/bold] wrote: Like David Brown tractors Osprey The Saints can take you for a ride with their ethics so far relating to the coming season.[/p][/quote]You are a Saints supporter? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -5

11:40pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Dave Brown says...

Yes Ospreysaint,I have supported The Saints through thick and thin for the last sixty years and I have no interest in The Skates.
Yes Ospreysaint,I have supported The Saints through thick and thin for the last sixty years and I have no interest in The Skates. Dave Brown
  • Score: 8

11:52pm Sat 5 Jul 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

So, in the semis, it's going to be the new Saints' boss's country verses the former Saints' boss's country.

I know which one I'll be supporting.
So, in the semis, it's going to be the new Saints' boss's country verses the former Saints' boss's country. I know which one I'll be supporting. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 8

11:53pm Sat 5 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Dave Brown wrote:
Yes Ospreysaint,I have supported The Saints through thick and thin for the last sixty years and I have no interest in The Skates.
Then I suggest you at least try to support them when they need you most, that means keeping your negative thoughts to yourself, posting your hopes, keeping the faith and wait for the good times to return. Ignor the WUMs they will only confuse and corrupt your thinking process. Sorry if you think I am bullying but that is how I feel right now.
[quote][p][bold]Dave Brown[/bold] wrote: Yes Ospreysaint,I have supported The Saints through thick and thin for the last sixty years and I have no interest in The Skates.[/p][/quote]Then I suggest you at least try to support them when they need you most, that means keeping your negative thoughts to yourself, posting your hopes, keeping the faith and wait for the good times to return. Ignor the WUMs they will only confuse and corrupt your thinking process. Sorry if you think I am bullying but that is how I feel right now. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -8

12:10am Sun 6 Jul 14

Dave Brown says...

You can bully as much as you want Osprey but having witnessed the politics of The Saints over the years I have I will write it as I see it .
I have made predictions and criticised situations in the past not only on this site but by letters aimed at former Chairmen so I will continue to post the situation as I personally witness it,I am not asking you to agree.
I do not enjoy being told by Les Reed that the club will not be selling players and then sell them and report for two weeks that players will be purchased and nothing happens.
He is taking the mick out of us all.
You can bully as much as you want Osprey but having witnessed the politics of The Saints over the years I have I will write it as I see it . I have made predictions and criticised situations in the past not only on this site but by letters aimed at former Chairmen so I will continue to post the situation as I personally witness it,I am not asking you to agree. I do not enjoy being told by Les Reed that the club will not be selling players and then sell them and report for two weeks that players will be purchased and nothing happens. He is taking the mick out of us all. Dave Brown
  • Score: 16

12:19am Sun 6 Jul 14

jls217 says...

Crossley Place Saint wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Crossley Place Saint wrote:
peregrine73 wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Wtf... West ham sign cresswell from ipswich.what is les doing? By far the best left back in the championship and only 24 and only cost west ham 4million.i know targett is coming through but he is not ready.clyne and chambers one side and cresswell an targett in the other.who are we going after? Some foreign journeyman.
Any bid for ings or will we leave him for the hammers as well? Any bid for caulker or will we just let qpr have him.if we are losing out or not bothering with these players we must really be eyeing up some top quality replacements.some how I think not.
Sack the board.
LES REED OUT
Well put,the reason there are no signings is simple!,they don't want to come a club hell bent on cashing in on transfers out for the financial return.This is the reality,the board want to make as much money as possible ,its about time the fans realise this and take action by voting no confidence in the board.If the board stay then expect further sells and a decline in the clubs fortune and position.
Yes, but how exactly are us fans supposed to "vote no confidence in the board"? The Club has only one shareholder, KL, the owner, and the board are doing her bidding, by selling players to raise cash which can be paid out to her.
We are told that all money coming in from players out will be available for players in. As far as we know there is also a little on top of that amount. So as things stand perhaps you could point out where KL has indicated she wants to let alone has banked the money from transfers for herself - which she is entitled to do as she owns the club outright.

None of these players have been put up for sale they have all demanded a move - and nobody outside those directly involved knows just why. You can bet the doubling of their wages is a factor though.

Perhaps you can explain why we would want Les Reed out for that.

In time there may be some evidence of who done what at the club but as yet there is none.

I ask now for about the fourth time. As you as so keen to have the board sacked, perhaps you can describe to us exactly how we do that please. There are no shareholders as in plural there is one - KL. So firstly how do we get rid of her and secondly why would we want to? U
I didn't say I was "keen to have the board sacked". Someone suggested that we (fans) should "vote no confidence in the board". I pointed out that this was technically and legally impossible, since our owner can do what she likes with the club. My comment about "only 5 players" was meant to be light=hearted, a la Osprey, really to poke fun at an obvious flaw in the OS. Then I looked at the full list of players on the OS, and made a more serious comment which you evidently agreed with.

I don't understand what has been happening to our club since last season - that wonderful season - ended. But we're all on the same side here.
It was 2toilets who wanted the board sacked - I was commenting generally on all the neg posts here, such as those upset that a business owner might actually (shock horror) want to have a profitable business. That Les Reed has done more for this club than all of them put together and will no doubt on Monday (and maybe even Sunday) be wracking his brains for the benefit of the club while the whiners will be down the boozer showing to their mates down they could do the job better. My answer is well apply then and await the outcome.
I understand emotion when it comes to Saints I've been having attacks of it for more years than I can remember. To comment whilst having an emotional turn (possibly fuelled by a can or three of white lightning is just a way of showing how stupid that particular poster is..
Too late at night to differentiate which particular poster said what idiotic comment so I will just has to say if the cap fits wear it. I am aware the innocent may have been dragged in with the guilty in which case I apologize to those august figures - the remainder can kiss my saggy arschlok.
[quote][p][bold]Crossley Place Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crossley Place Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]peregrine73[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Wtf... West ham sign cresswell from ipswich.what is les doing? By far the best left back in the championship and only 24 and only cost west ham 4million.i know targett is coming through but he is not ready.clyne and chambers one side and cresswell an targett in the other.who are we going after? Some foreign journeyman. Any bid for ings or will we leave him for the hammers as well? Any bid for caulker or will we just let qpr have him.if we are losing out or not bothering with these players we must really be eyeing up some top quality replacements.some how I think not. Sack the board. LES REED OUT[/p][/quote]Well put,the reason there are no signings is simple!,they don't want to come a club hell bent on cashing in on transfers out for the financial return.This is the reality,the board want to make as much money as possible ,its about time the fans realise this and take action by voting no confidence in the board.If the board stay then expect further sells and a decline in the clubs fortune and position.[/p][/quote]Yes, but how exactly are us fans supposed to "vote no confidence in the board"? The Club has only one shareholder, KL, the owner, and the board are doing her bidding, by selling players to raise cash which can be paid out to her.[/p][/quote]We are told that all money coming in from players out will be available for players in. As far as we know there is also a little on top of that amount. So as things stand perhaps you could point out where KL has indicated she wants to let alone has banked the money from transfers for herself - which she is entitled to do as she owns the club outright. None of these players have been put up for sale they have all demanded a move - and nobody outside those directly involved knows just why. You can bet the doubling of their wages is a factor though. Perhaps you can explain why we would want Les Reed out for that. In time there may be some evidence of who done what at the club but as yet there is none. I ask now for about the fourth time. As you as so keen to have the board sacked, perhaps you can describe to us exactly how we do that please. There are no shareholders as in plural there is one - KL. So firstly how do we get rid of her and secondly why would we want to? U[/p][/quote]I didn't say I was "keen to have the board sacked". Someone suggested that we (fans) should "vote no confidence in the board". I pointed out that this was technically and legally impossible, since our owner can do what she likes with the club. My comment about "only 5 players" was meant to be light=hearted, a la Osprey, really to poke fun at an obvious flaw in the OS. Then I looked at the full list of players on the OS, and made a more serious comment which you evidently agreed with. I don't understand what has been happening to our club since last season - that wonderful season - ended. But we're all on the same side here.[/p][/quote]It was 2toilets who wanted the board sacked - I was commenting generally on all the neg posts here, such as those upset that a business owner might actually (shock horror) want to have a profitable business. That Les Reed has done more for this club than all of them put together and will no doubt on Monday (and maybe even Sunday) be wracking his brains for the benefit of the club while the whiners will be down the boozer showing to their mates down they could do the job better. My answer is well apply then and await the outcome. I understand emotion when it comes to Saints I've been having attacks of it for more years than I can remember. To comment whilst having an emotional turn (possibly fuelled by a can or three of white lightning is just a way of showing how stupid that particular poster is.. Too late at night to differentiate which particular poster said what idiotic comment so I will just has to say if the cap fits wear it. I am aware the innocent may have been dragged in with the guilty in which case I apologize to those august figures - the remainder can kiss my saggy arschlok. jls217
  • Score: -6

12:20am Sun 6 Jul 14

Littleton-Saint says...

deepheat wrote:
Players that are worth a look;-

Will Hughes - Derby
Danny Ings - Burnley
Ross McCormack - Leeds
Buy these players and we'll have a Championship side - we can do better.
[quote][p][bold]deepheat[/bold] wrote: Players that are worth a look;- Will Hughes - Derby Danny Ings - Burnley Ross McCormack - Leeds[/p][/quote]Buy these players and we'll have a Championship side - we can do better. Littleton-Saint
  • Score: 2

12:59am Sun 6 Jul 14

jasons odd says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Dave Brown wrote:
Yes Ospreysaint,I have supported The Saints through thick and thin for the last sixty years and I have no interest in The Skates.
Then I suggest you at least try to support them when they need you most, that means keeping your negative thoughts to yourself, posting your hopes, keeping the faith and wait for the good times to return. Ignor the WUMs they will only confuse and corrupt your thinking process. Sorry if you think I am bullying but that is how I feel right now.
Why is there always some fool on every forum telling people how to support their club . WHAT A MORON !

Its a free country , and free speech is allowed . No doubt this same fool was one of the ones spouting the same nonsense when Lowe was in charge .
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Brown[/bold] wrote: Yes Ospreysaint,I have supported The Saints through thick and thin for the last sixty years and I have no interest in The Skates.[/p][/quote]Then I suggest you at least try to support them when they need you most, that means keeping your negative thoughts to yourself, posting your hopes, keeping the faith and wait for the good times to return. Ignor the WUMs they will only confuse and corrupt your thinking process. Sorry if you think I am bullying but that is how I feel right now.[/p][/quote]Why is there always some fool on every forum telling people how to support their club . WHAT A MORON ! Its a free country , and free speech is allowed . No doubt this same fool was one of the ones spouting the same nonsense when Lowe was in charge . jasons odd
  • Score: 5

1:02am Sun 6 Jul 14

deepheat says...

Littleton-Saint wrote:
deepheat wrote:
Players that are worth a look;-

Will Hughes - Derby
Danny Ings - Burnley
Ross McCormack - Leeds
Buy these players and we'll have a Championship side - we can do better.
Under Nigel Adkins we got promoted to the Premier league with a Championship side and have just sold them for millions.

Who would you spend those millions on?
[quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]deepheat[/bold] wrote: Players that are worth a look;- Will Hughes - Derby Danny Ings - Burnley Ross McCormack - Leeds[/p][/quote]Buy these players and we'll have a Championship side - we can do better.[/p][/quote]Under Nigel Adkins we got promoted to the Premier league with a Championship side and have just sold them for millions. Who would you spend those millions on? deepheat
  • Score: 4

1:06am Sun 6 Jul 14

saintjon127 says...

Fact: I am a saints supporter
Fact: I have been supporting Saints for almost 40 years
Fact: I will l be a Saints supporter for the rest of my life
Fact: Whatever happens in the coming weeks I will still support the Saints
Question: Will you?
SAINTS TILL I DIE WHATEVER!!
Fact: I am a saints supporter Fact: I have been supporting Saints for almost 40 years Fact: I will l be a Saints supporter for the rest of my life Fact: Whatever happens in the coming weeks I will still support the Saints Question: Will you? SAINTS TILL I DIE WHATEVER!! saintjon127
  • Score: 2

1:55am Sun 6 Jul 14

Chipmonk1 says...

jasons odd wrote:
I cant comment on Tasic having never seen him play apart from clips ...

But as someone who follows Italian football closely , pelle is a flop in the making . Ask any Italian football fan ,they will tell you pelle is half the striker Osvaldo is .

He couldn't cut it in the Italian league , didnt even shine in seria B . Scoring goals in the rubbish dutch league is easy . Van wolfswinkel, luuk de jong and many many more rubbish strikers have scored hatfulls .

If we dont set our sights higher ...it will be a horrible season .


No faith in Koeman , his record as a manager is poor , and hiring sammy lee is a shocking decision
Wow! Sorry for not respecting your deep and intimate knowledge of Italian football and their footballers, but id it not distinctly possible that Pelle has developed as a player since moving to Holland and that while there he connected with his manager who knew how to get the best out of him? Strikers, in the words of Rio Ferdinand, need love and support from their managers which is why RVP had a bad season under Moyes. Furthermore SRL was a late bloomer not making England team until 31, older than Pelle is now. Many very good players and some world beaters have come from the Erevidise Suarez to name but one. RoKo has led his nation as a player to success. As a manager he has managed in the CL and his record at Feynoord was in fact remarkable. This is his chance to prove himself as a manager in the most challenging domestic league in world football and if he fails it would probably be his last. So if he thinks Pelle can do a job for Saints with his career partly hanging on that decision then it is good enough for me.
[quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: I cant comment on Tasic having never seen him play apart from clips ... But as someone who follows Italian football closely , pelle is a flop in the making . Ask any Italian football fan ,they will tell you pelle is half the striker Osvaldo is . He couldn't cut it in the Italian league , didnt even shine in seria B . Scoring goals in the rubbish dutch league is easy . Van wolfswinkel, luuk de jong and many many more rubbish strikers have scored hatfulls . If we dont set our sights higher ...it will be a horrible season . No faith in Koeman , his record as a manager is poor , and hiring sammy lee is a shocking decision[/p][/quote]Wow! Sorry for not respecting your deep and intimate knowledge of Italian football and their footballers, but id it not distinctly possible that Pelle has developed as a player since moving to Holland and that while there he connected with his manager who knew how to get the best out of him? Strikers, in the words of Rio Ferdinand, need love and support from their managers which is why RVP had a bad season under Moyes. Furthermore SRL was a late bloomer not making England team until 31, older than Pelle is now. Many very good players and some world beaters have come from the Erevidise Suarez to name but one. RoKo has led his nation as a player to success. As a manager he has managed in the CL and his record at Feynoord was in fact remarkable. This is his chance to prove himself as a manager in the most challenging domestic league in world football and if he fails it would probably be his last. So if he thinks Pelle can do a job for Saints with his career partly hanging on that decision then it is good enough for me. Chipmonk1
  • Score: -3

3:56am Sun 6 Jul 14

Sammy2sheds says...

Chipmonk1 wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
I cant comment on Tasic having never seen him play apart from clips ...

But as someone who follows Italian football closely , pelle is a flop in the making . Ask any Italian football fan ,they will tell you pelle is half the striker Osvaldo is .

He couldn't cut it in the Italian league , didnt even shine in seria B . Scoring goals in the rubbish dutch league is easy . Van wolfswinkel, luuk de jong and many many more rubbish strikers have scored hatfulls .

If we dont set our sights higher ...it will be a horrible season .


No faith in Koeman , his record as a manager is poor , and hiring sammy lee is a shocking decision
Wow! Sorry for not respecting your deep and intimate knowledge of Italian football and their footballers, but id it not distinctly possible that Pelle has developed as a player since moving to Holland and that while there he connected with his manager who knew how to get the best out of him? Strikers, in the words of Rio Ferdinand, need love and support from their managers which is why RVP had a bad season under Moyes. Furthermore SRL was a late bloomer not making England team until 31, older than Pelle is now. Many very good players and some world beaters have come from the Erevidise Suarez to name but one. RoKo has led his nation as a player to success. As a manager he has managed in the CL and his record at Feynoord was in fact remarkable. This is his chance to prove himself as a manager in the most challenging domestic league in world football and if he fails it would probably be his last. So if he thinks Pelle can do a job for Saints with his career partly hanging on that decision then it is good enough for me.
No the old saying is "you can't polish a turd".he is average.
[quote][p][bold]Chipmonk1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: I cant comment on Tasic having never seen him play apart from clips ... But as someone who follows Italian football closely , pelle is a flop in the making . Ask any Italian football fan ,they will tell you pelle is half the striker Osvaldo is . He couldn't cut it in the Italian league , didnt even shine in seria B . Scoring goals in the rubbish dutch league is easy . Van wolfswinkel, luuk de jong and many many more rubbish strikers have scored hatfulls . If we dont set our sights higher ...it will be a horrible season . No faith in Koeman , his record as a manager is poor , and hiring sammy lee is a shocking decision[/p][/quote]Wow! Sorry for not respecting your deep and intimate knowledge of Italian football and their footballers, but id it not distinctly possible that Pelle has developed as a player since moving to Holland and that while there he connected with his manager who knew how to get the best out of him? Strikers, in the words of Rio Ferdinand, need love and support from their managers which is why RVP had a bad season under Moyes. Furthermore SRL was a late bloomer not making England team until 31, older than Pelle is now. Many very good players and some world beaters have come from the Erevidise Suarez to name but one. RoKo has led his nation as a player to success. As a manager he has managed in the CL and his record at Feynoord was in fact remarkable. This is his chance to prove himself as a manager in the most challenging domestic league in world football and if he fails it would probably be his last. So if he thinks Pelle can do a job for Saints with his career partly hanging on that decision then it is good enough for me.[/p][/quote]No the old saying is "you can't polish a turd".he is average. Sammy2sheds
  • Score: 2

4:02am Sun 6 Jul 14

Sammy2sheds says...

jls217 wrote:
Crossley Place Saint wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Crossley Place Saint wrote:
peregrine73 wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Wtf... West ham sign cresswell from ipswich.what is les doing? By far the best left back in the championship and only 24 and only cost west ham 4million.i know targett is coming through but he is not ready.clyne and chambers one side and cresswell an targett in the other.who are we going after? Some foreign journeyman.
Any bid for ings or will we leave him for the hammers as well? Any bid for caulker or will we just let qpr have him.if we are losing out or not bothering with these players we must really be eyeing up some top quality replacements.some how I think not.
Sack the board.
LES REED OUT
Well put,the reason there are no signings is simple!,they don't want to come a club hell bent on cashing in on transfers out for the financial return.This is the reality,the board want to make as much money as possible ,its about time the fans realise this and take action by voting no confidence in the board.If the board stay then expect further sells and a decline in the clubs fortune and position.
Yes, but how exactly are us fans supposed to "vote no confidence in the board"? The Club has only one shareholder, KL, the owner, and the board are doing her bidding, by selling players to raise cash which can be paid out to her.
We are told that all money coming in from players out will be available for players in. As far as we know there is also a little on top of that amount. So as things stand perhaps you could point out where KL has indicated she wants to let alone has banked the money from transfers for herself - which she is entitled to do as she owns the club outright.

None of these players have been put up for sale they have all demanded a move - and nobody outside those directly involved knows just why. You can bet the doubling of their wages is a factor though.

Perhaps you can explain why we would want Les Reed out for that.

In time there may be some evidence of who done what at the club but as yet there is none.

I ask now for about the fourth time. As you as so keen to have the board sacked, perhaps you can describe to us exactly how we do that please. There are no shareholders as in plural there is one - KL. So firstly how do we get rid of her and secondly why would we want to? U
I didn't say I was "keen to have the board sacked". Someone suggested that we (fans) should "vote no confidence in the board". I pointed out that this was technically and legally impossible, since our owner can do what she likes with the club. My comment about "only 5 players" was meant to be light=hearted, a la Osprey, really to poke fun at an obvious flaw in the OS. Then I looked at the full list of players on the OS, and made a more serious comment which you evidently agreed with.

I don't understand what has been happening to our club since last season - that wonderful season - ended. But we're all on the same side here.
It was 2toilets who wanted the board sacked - I was commenting generally on all the neg posts here, such as those upset that a business owner might actually (shock horror) want to have a profitable business. That Les Reed has done more for this club than all of them put together and will no doubt on Monday (and maybe even Sunday) be wracking his brains for the benefit of the club while the whiners will be down the boozer showing to their mates down they could do the job better. My answer is well apply then and await the outcome.
I understand emotion when it comes to Saints I've been having attacks of it for more years than I can remember. To comment whilst having an emotional turn (possibly fuelled by a can or three of white lightning is just a way of showing how stupid that particular poster is..
Too late at night to differentiate which particular poster said what idiotic comment so I will just has to say if the cap fits wear it. I am aware the innocent may have been dragged in with the guilty in which case I apologize to those august figures - the remainder can kiss my saggy arschlok.
Les reed has done more for this club than who? He is a joke and mugs like you will support him to take this club backwards.just like you did when Lowe was in charge.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crossley Place Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crossley Place Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]peregrine73[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Wtf... West ham sign cresswell from ipswich.what is les doing? By far the best left back in the championship and only 24 and only cost west ham 4million.i know targett is coming through but he is not ready.clyne and chambers one side and cresswell an targett in the other.who are we going after? Some foreign journeyman. Any bid for ings or will we leave him for the hammers as well? Any bid for caulker or will we just let qpr have him.if we are losing out or not bothering with these players we must really be eyeing up some top quality replacements.some how I think not. Sack the board. LES REED OUT[/p][/quote]Well put,the reason there are no signings is simple!,they don't want to come a club hell bent on cashing in on transfers out for the financial return.This is the reality,the board want to make as much money as possible ,its about time the fans realise this and take action by voting no confidence in the board.If the board stay then expect further sells and a decline in the clubs fortune and position.[/p][/quote]Yes, but how exactly are us fans supposed to "vote no confidence in the board"? The Club has only one shareholder, KL, the owner, and the board are doing her bidding, by selling players to raise cash which can be paid out to her.[/p][/quote]We are told that all money coming in from players out will be available for players in. As far as we know there is also a little on top of that amount. So as things stand perhaps you could point out where KL has indicated she wants to let alone has banked the money from transfers for herself - which she is entitled to do as she owns the club outright. None of these players have been put up for sale they have all demanded a move - and nobody outside those directly involved knows just why. You can bet the doubling of their wages is a factor though. Perhaps you can explain why we would want Les Reed out for that. In time there may be some evidence of who done what at the club but as yet there is none. I ask now for about the fourth time. As you as so keen to have the board sacked, perhaps you can describe to us exactly how we do that please. There are no shareholders as in plural there is one - KL. So firstly how do we get rid of her and secondly why would we want to? U[/p][/quote]I didn't say I was "keen to have the board sacked". Someone suggested that we (fans) should "vote no confidence in the board". I pointed out that this was technically and legally impossible, since our owner can do what she likes with the club. My comment about "only 5 players" was meant to be light=hearted, a la Osprey, really to poke fun at an obvious flaw in the OS. Then I looked at the full list of players on the OS, and made a more serious comment which you evidently agreed with. I don't understand what has been happening to our club since last season - that wonderful season - ended. But we're all on the same side here.[/p][/quote]It was 2toilets who wanted the board sacked - I was commenting generally on all the neg posts here, such as those upset that a business owner might actually (shock horror) want to have a profitable business. That Les Reed has done more for this club than all of them put together and will no doubt on Monday (and maybe even Sunday) be wracking his brains for the benefit of the club while the whiners will be down the boozer showing to their mates down they could do the job better. My answer is well apply then and await the outcome. I understand emotion when it comes to Saints I've been having attacks of it for more years than I can remember. To comment whilst having an emotional turn (possibly fuelled by a can or three of white lightning is just a way of showing how stupid that particular poster is.. Too late at night to differentiate which particular poster said what idiotic comment so I will just has to say if the cap fits wear it. I am aware the innocent may have been dragged in with the guilty in which case I apologize to those august figures - the remainder can kiss my saggy arschlok.[/p][/quote]Les reed has done more for this club than who? He is a joke and mugs like you will support him to take this club backwards.just like you did when Lowe was in charge. Sammy2sheds
  • Score: 1

5:59am Sun 6 Jul 14

Rising_Son says...

Dave Brown wrote:
The manner in which the board placed the season tickets on sale early and then selling three English International players is I feel a total con trick played on the supporters who purchased their tickets.
I am sure Les Reed and the board knew they would be selling and raising funds to clear the debts.
Do not believe the funds raised to date will be re invested in quality players.
Once the club is totally debt free I feel we could see the For Sale signs go up outside St Marys offers in excess of £150 million a few players available to sell on.
Last year, there were a lot of people on here demanding an early season ticket renewal period. This year we have an early one and guess what people are complaining about?
[quote][p][bold]Dave Brown[/bold] wrote: The manner in which the board placed the season tickets on sale early and then selling three English International players is I feel a total con trick played on the supporters who purchased their tickets. I am sure Les Reed and the board knew they would be selling and raising funds to clear the debts. Do not believe the funds raised to date will be re invested in quality players. Once the club is totally debt free I feel we could see the For Sale signs go up outside St Marys offers in excess of £150 million a few players available to sell on.[/p][/quote]Last year, there were a lot of people on here demanding an early season ticket renewal period. This year we have an early one and guess what people are complaining about? Rising_Son
  • Score: 4

6:03am Sun 6 Jul 14

Rising_Son says...

jasons odd wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Dave Brown wrote:
Yes Ospreysaint,I have supported The Saints through thick and thin for the last sixty years and I have no interest in The Skates.
Then I suggest you at least try to support them when they need you most, that means keeping your negative thoughts to yourself, posting your hopes, keeping the faith and wait for the good times to return. Ignor the WUMs they will only confuse and corrupt your thinking process. Sorry if you think I am bullying but that is how I feel right now.
Why is there always some fool on every forum telling people how to support their club . WHAT A MORON !

Its a free country , and free speech is allowed . No doubt this same fool was one of the ones spouting the same nonsense when Lowe was in charge .
"Its a free country , and free speech is allowed ." So, why do you have a problem with his comments?
[quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Brown[/bold] wrote: Yes Ospreysaint,I have supported The Saints through thick and thin for the last sixty years and I have no interest in The Skates.[/p][/quote]Then I suggest you at least try to support them when they need you most, that means keeping your negative thoughts to yourself, posting your hopes, keeping the faith and wait for the good times to return. Ignor the WUMs they will only confuse and corrupt your thinking process. Sorry if you think I am bullying but that is how I feel right now.[/p][/quote]Why is there always some fool on every forum telling people how to support their club . WHAT A MORON ! Its a free country , and free speech is allowed . No doubt this same fool was one of the ones spouting the same nonsense when Lowe was in charge .[/p][/quote]"Its a free country , and free speech is allowed ." So, why do you have a problem with his comments? Rising_Son
  • Score: 2

8:05am Sun 6 Jul 14

el caballo santos101 says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Crossley Place Saint wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Crossley Place Saint wrote:
peregrine73 wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Wtf... West ham sign cresswell from ipswich.what is les doing? By far the best left back in the championship and only 24 and only cost west ham 4million.i know targett is coming through but he is not ready.clyne and chambers one side and cresswell an targett in the other.who are we going after? Some foreign journeyman.
Any bid for ings or will we leave him for the hammers as well? Any bid for caulker or will we just let qpr have him.if we are losing out or not bothering with these players we must really be eyeing up some top quality replacements.some how I think not.
Sack the board.
LES REED OUT
Well put,the reason there are no signings is simple!,they don't want to come a club hell bent on cashing in on transfers out for the financial return.This is the reality,the board want to make as much money as possible ,its about time the fans realise this and take action by voting no confidence in the board.If the board stay then expect further sells and a decline in the clubs fortune and position.
Yes, but how exactly are us fans supposed to "vote no confidence in the board"? The Club has only one shareholder, KL, the owner, and the board are doing her bidding, by selling players to raise cash which can be paid out to her.
We are told that all money coming in from players out will be available for players in. As far as we know there is also a little on top of that amount. So as things stand perhaps you could point out where KL has indicated she wants to let alone has banked the money from transfers for herself - which she is entitled to do as she owns the club outright.

None of these players have been put up for sale they have all demanded a move - and nobody outside those directly involved knows just why. You can bet the doubling of their wages is a factor though.

Perhaps you can explain why we would want Les Reed out for that.

In time there may be some evidence of who done what at the club but as yet there is none.

I ask now for about the fourth time. As you as so keen to have the board sacked, perhaps you can describe to us exactly how we do that please. There are no shareholders as in plural there is one - KL. So firstly how do we get rid of her and secondly why would we want to? U
I didn't say I was "keen to have the board sacked". Someone suggested that we (fans) should "vote no confidence in the board". I pointed out that this was technically and legally impossible, since our owner can do what she likes with the club. My comment about "only 5 players" was meant to be light=hearted, a la Osprey, really to poke fun at an obvious flaw in the OS. Then I looked at the full list of players on the OS, and made a more serious comment which you evidently agreed with.

I don't understand what has been happening to our club since last season - that wonderful season - ended. But we're all on the same side here.
It was 2toilets who wanted the board sacked - I was commenting generally on all the neg posts here, such as those upset that a business owner might actually (shock horror) want to have a profitable business. That Les Reed has done more for this club than all of them put together and will no doubt on Monday (and maybe even Sunday) be wracking his brains for the benefit of the club while the whiners will be down the boozer showing to their mates down they could do the job better. My answer is well apply then and await the outcome.
I understand emotion when it comes to Saints I've been having attacks of it for more years than I can remember. To comment whilst having an emotional turn (possibly fuelled by a can or three of white lightning is just a way of showing how stupid that particular poster is..
Too late at night to differentiate which particular poster said what idiotic comment so I will just has to say if the cap fits wear it. I am aware the innocent may have been dragged in with the guilty in which case I apologize to those august figures - the remainder can kiss my saggy arschlok.
Les reed has done more for this club than who? He is a joke and mugs like you will support him to take this club backwards.just like you did when Lowe was in charge.
Go on then 2braincells I will play along,
Do you know how long les reed has been at the club?
Do you know who it was that appointed him?
Do you know what his position has been at the club?

I will take your views on les reed with the same irrelevance as I gave your claims on Bruce being our manager. In fact the same irrelevance as I give to any of your nonsense claims or statements!

If anyone is a joke and a mug around here 2braincells it is you, and I don't think that many on here think you are even a football fan let alone a saints fan.

Now I know that posting an anti 2braincells comment is going to see me get multiple thumbs down votes, however do you think that we haven't noticed that whenever you are around certain posts and posters get the multi-thumbs down treatment? You may think your being very clever or funny by doing it, but your just being as pathetic as your posts (which get around the same thumbs up as others get down, shocking).
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crossley Place Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crossley Place Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]peregrine73[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Wtf... West ham sign cresswell from ipswich.what is les doing? By far the best left back in the championship and only 24 and only cost west ham 4million.i know targett is coming through but he is not ready.clyne and chambers one side and cresswell an targett in the other.who are we going after? Some foreign journeyman. Any bid for ings or will we leave him for the hammers as well? Any bid for caulker or will we just let qpr have him.if we are losing out or not bothering with these players we must really be eyeing up some top quality replacements.some how I think not. Sack the board. LES REED OUT[/p][/quote]Well put,the reason there are no signings is simple!,they don't want to come a club hell bent on cashing in on transfers out for the financial return.This is the reality,the board want to make as much money as possible ,its about time the fans realise this and take action by voting no confidence in the board.If the board stay then expect further sells and a decline in the clubs fortune and position.[/p][/quote]Yes, but how exactly are us fans supposed to "vote no confidence in the board"? The Club has only one shareholder, KL, the owner, and the board are doing her bidding, by selling players to raise cash which can be paid out to her.[/p][/quote]We are told that all money coming in from players out will be available for players in. As far as we know there is also a little on top of that amount. So as things stand perhaps you could point out where KL has indicated she wants to let alone has banked the money from transfers for herself - which she is entitled to do as she owns the club outright. None of these players have been put up for sale they have all demanded a move - and nobody outside those directly involved knows just why. You can bet the doubling of their wages is a factor though. Perhaps you can explain why we would want Les Reed out for that. In time there may be some evidence of who done what at the club but as yet there is none. I ask now for about the fourth time. As you as so keen to have the board sacked, perhaps you can describe to us exactly how we do that please. There are no shareholders as in plural there is one - KL. So firstly how do we get rid of her and secondly why would we want to? U[/p][/quote]I didn't say I was "keen to have the board sacked". Someone suggested that we (fans) should "vote no confidence in the board". I pointed out that this was technically and legally impossible, since our owner can do what she likes with the club. My comment about "only 5 players" was meant to be light=hearted, a la Osprey, really to poke fun at an obvious flaw in the OS. Then I looked at the full list of players on the OS, and made a more serious comment which you evidently agreed with. I don't understand what has been happening to our club since last season - that wonderful season - ended. But we're all on the same side here.[/p][/quote]It was 2toilets who wanted the board sacked - I was commenting generally on all the neg posts here, such as those upset that a business owner might actually (shock horror) want to have a profitable business. That Les Reed has done more for this club than all of them put together and will no doubt on Monday (and maybe even Sunday) be wracking his brains for the benefit of the club while the whiners will be down the boozer showing to their mates down they could do the job better. My answer is well apply then and await the outcome. I understand emotion when it comes to Saints I've been having attacks of it for more years than I can remember. To comment whilst having an emotional turn (possibly fuelled by a can or three of white lightning is just a way of showing how stupid that particular poster is.. Too late at night to differentiate which particular poster said what idiotic comment so I will just has to say if the cap fits wear it. I am aware the innocent may have been dragged in with the guilty in which case I apologize to those august figures - the remainder can kiss my saggy arschlok.[/p][/quote]Les reed has done more for this club than who? He is a joke and mugs like you will support him to take this club backwards.just like you did when Lowe was in charge.[/p][/quote]Go on then 2braincells I will play along, Do you know how long les reed has been at the club? Do you know who it was that appointed him? Do you know what his position has been at the club? I will take your views on les reed with the same irrelevance as I gave your claims on Bruce being our manager. In fact the same irrelevance as I give to any of your nonsense claims or statements! If anyone is a joke and a mug around here 2braincells it is you, and I don't think that many on here think you are even a football fan let alone a saints fan. Now I know that posting an anti 2braincells comment is going to see me get multiple thumbs down votes, however do you think that we haven't noticed that whenever you are around certain posts and posters get the multi-thumbs down treatment? You may think your being very clever or funny by doing it, but your just being as pathetic as your posts (which get around the same thumbs up as others get down, shocking). el caballo santos101
  • Score: 7

8:09am Sun 6 Jul 14

Chipmonk1 says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Crossley Place Saint wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Crossley Place Saint wrote:
peregrine73 wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Wtf... West ham sign cresswell from ipswich.what is les doing? By far the best left back in the championship and only 24 and only cost west ham 4million.i know targett is coming through but he is not ready.clyne and chambers one side and cresswell an targett in the other.who are we going after? Some foreign journeyman.
Any bid for ings or will we leave him for the hammers as well? Any bid for caulker or will we just let qpr have him.if we are losing out or not bothering with these players we must really be eyeing up some top quality replacements.some how I think not.
Sack the board.
LES REED OUT
Well put,the reason there are no signings is simple!,they don't want to come a club hell bent on cashing in on transfers out for the financial return.This is the reality,the board want to make as much money as possible ,its about time the fans realise this and take action by voting no confidence in the board.If the board stay then expect further sells and a decline in the clubs fortune and position.
Yes, but how exactly are us fans supposed to "vote no confidence in the board"? The Club has only one shareholder, KL, the owner, and the board are doing her bidding, by selling players to raise cash which can be paid out to her.
We are told that all money coming in from players out will be available for players in. As far as we know there is also a little on top of that amount. So as things stand perhaps you could point out where KL has indicated she wants to let alone has banked the money from transfers for herself - which she is entitled to do as she owns the club outright.

None of these players have been put up for sale they have all demanded a move - and nobody outside those directly involved knows just why. You can bet the doubling of their wages is a factor though.

Perhaps you can explain why we would want Les Reed out for that.

In time there may be some evidence of who done what at the club but as yet there is none.

I ask now for about the fourth time. As you as so keen to have the board sacked, perhaps you can describe to us exactly how we do that please. There are no shareholders as in plural there is one - KL. So firstly how do we get rid of her and secondly why would we want to? U
I didn't say I was "keen to have the board sacked". Someone suggested that we (fans) should "vote no confidence in the board". I pointed out that this was technically and legally impossible, since our owner can do what she likes with the club. My comment about "only 5 players" was meant to be light=hearted, a la Osprey, really to poke fun at an obvious flaw in the OS. Then I looked at the full list of players on the OS, and made a more serious comment which you evidently agreed with.

I don't understand what has been happening to our club since last season - that wonderful season - ended. But we're all on the same side here.
It was 2toilets who wanted the board sacked - I was commenting generally on all the neg posts here, such as those upset that a business owner might actually (shock horror) want to have a profitable business. That Les Reed has done more for this club than all of them put together and will no doubt on Monday (and maybe even Sunday) be wracking his brains for the benefit of the club while the whiners will be down the boozer showing to their mates down they could do the job better. My answer is well apply then and await the outcome.
I understand emotion when it comes to Saints I've been having attacks of it for more years than I can remember. To comment whilst having an emotional turn (possibly fuelled by a can or three of white lightning is just a way of showing how stupid that particular poster is..
Too late at night to differentiate which particular poster said what idiotic comment so I will just has to say if the cap fits wear it. I am aware the innocent may have been dragged in with the guilty in which case I apologize to those august figures - the remainder can kiss my saggy arschlok.
Les reed has done more for this club than who? He is a joke and mugs like you will support him to take this club backwards.just like you did when Lowe was in charge.
Go on then 2braincells I will play along,
Do you know how long les reed has been at the club?
Do you know who it was that appointed him?
Do you know what his position has been at the club?

I will take your views on les reed with the same irrelevance as I gave your claims on Bruce being our manager. In fact the same irrelevance as I give to any of your nonsense claims or statements!

If anyone is a joke and a mug around here 2braincells it is you, and I don't think that many on here think you are even a football fan let alone a saints fan.

Now I know that posting an anti 2braincells comment is going to see me get multiple thumbs down votes, however do you think that we haven't noticed that whenever you are around certain posts and posters get the multi-thumbs down treatment? You may think your being very clever or funny by doing it, but your just being as pathetic as your posts (which get around the same thumbs up as others get down, shocking).
What he said
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crossley Place Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crossley Place Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]peregrine73[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Wtf... West ham sign cresswell from ipswich.what is les doing? By far the best left back in the championship and only 24 and only cost west ham 4million.i know targett is coming through but he is not ready.clyne and chambers one side and cresswell an targett in the other.who are we going after? Some foreign journeyman. Any bid for ings or will we leave him for the hammers as well? Any bid for caulker or will we just let qpr have him.if we are losing out or not bothering with these players we must really be eyeing up some top quality replacements.some how I think not. Sack the board. LES REED OUT[/p][/quote]Well put,the reason there are no signings is simple!,they don't want to come a club hell bent on cashing in on transfers out for the financial return.This is the reality,the board want to make as much money as possible ,its about time the fans realise this and take action by voting no confidence in the board.If the board stay then expect further sells and a decline in the clubs fortune and position.[/p][/quote]Yes, but how exactly are us fans supposed to "vote no confidence in the board"? The Club has only one shareholder, KL, the owner, and the board are doing her bidding, by selling players to raise cash which can be paid out to her.[/p][/quote]We are told that all money coming in from players out will be available for players in. As far as we know there is also a little on top of that amount. So as things stand perhaps you could point out where KL has indicated she wants to let alone has banked the money from transfers for herself - which she is entitled to do as she owns the club outright. None of these players have been put up for sale they have all demanded a move - and nobody outside those directly involved knows just why. You can bet the doubling of their wages is a factor though. Perhaps you can explain why we would want Les Reed out for that. In time there may be some evidence of who done what at the club but as yet there is none. I ask now for about the fourth time. As you as so keen to have the board sacked, perhaps you can describe to us exactly how we do that please. There are no shareholders as in plural there is one - KL. So firstly how do we get rid of her and secondly why would we want to? U[/p][/quote]I didn't say I was "keen to have the board sacked". Someone suggested that we (fans) should "vote no confidence in the board". I pointed out that this was technically and legally impossible, since our owner can do what she likes with the club. My comment about "only 5 players" was meant to be light=hearted, a la Osprey, really to poke fun at an obvious flaw in the OS. Then I looked at the full list of players on the OS, and made a more serious comment which you evidently agreed with. I don't understand what has been happening to our club since last season - that wonderful season - ended. But we're all on the same side here.[/p][/quote]It was 2toilets who wanted the board sacked - I was commenting generally on all the neg posts here, such as those upset that a business owner might actually (shock horror) want to have a profitable business. That Les Reed has done more for this club than all of them put together and will no doubt on Monday (and maybe even Sunday) be wracking his brains for the benefit of the club while the whiners will be down the boozer showing to their mates down they could do the job better. My answer is well apply then and await the outcome. I understand emotion when it comes to Saints I've been having attacks of it for more years than I can remember. To comment whilst having an emotional turn (possibly fuelled by a can or three of white lightning is just a way of showing how stupid that particular poster is.. Too late at night to differentiate which particular poster said what idiotic comment so I will just has to say if the cap fits wear it. I am aware the innocent may have been dragged in with the guilty in which case I apologize to those august figures - the remainder can kiss my saggy arschlok.[/p][/quote]Les reed has done more for this club than who? He is a joke and mugs like you will support him to take this club backwards.just like you did when Lowe was in charge.[/p][/quote]Go on then 2braincells I will play along, Do you know how long les reed has been at the club? Do you know who it was that appointed him? Do you know what his position has been at the club? I will take your views on les reed with the same irrelevance as I gave your claims on Bruce being our manager. In fact the same irrelevance as I give to any of your nonsense claims or statements! If anyone is a joke and a mug around here 2braincells it is you, and I don't think that many on here think you are even a football fan let alone a saints fan. Now I know that posting an anti 2braincells comment is going to see me get multiple thumbs down votes, however do you think that we haven't noticed that whenever you are around certain posts and posters get the multi-thumbs down treatment? You may think your being very clever or funny by doing it, but your just being as pathetic as your posts (which get around the same thumbs up as others get down, shocking).[/p][/quote]What he said Chipmonk1
  • Score: 1

8:22am Sun 6 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Crossley Place Saint wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Crossley Place Saint wrote:
peregrine73 wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Wtf... West ham sign cresswell from ipswich.what is les doing? By far the best left back in the championship and only 24 and only cost west ham 4million.i know targett is coming through but he is not ready.clyne and chambers one side and cresswell an targett in the other.who are we going after? Some foreign journeyman.
Any bid for ings or will we leave him for the hammers as well? Any bid for caulker or will we just let qpr have him.if we are losing out or not bothering with these players we must really be eyeing up some top quality replacements.some how I think not.
Sack the board.
LES REED OUT
Well put,the reason there are no signings is simple!,they don't want to come a club hell bent on cashing in on transfers out for the financial return.This is the reality,the board want to make as much money as possible ,its about time the fans realise this and take action by voting no confidence in the board.If the board stay then expect further sells and a decline in the clubs fortune and position.
Yes, but how exactly are us fans supposed to "vote no confidence in the board"? The Club has only one shareholder, KL, the owner, and the board are doing her bidding, by selling players to raise cash which can be paid out to her.
We are told that all money coming in from players out will be available for players in. As far as we know there is also a little on top of that amount. So as things stand perhaps you could point out where KL has indicated she wants to let alone has banked the money from transfers for herself - which she is entitled to do as she owns the club outright.

None of these players have been put up for sale they have all demanded a move - and nobody outside those directly involved knows just why. You can bet the doubling of their wages is a factor though.

Perhaps you can explain why we would want Les Reed out for that.

In time there may be some evidence of who done what at the club but as yet there is none.

I ask now for about the fourth time. As you as so keen to have the board sacked, perhaps you can describe to us exactly how we do that please. There are no shareholders as in plural there is one - KL. So firstly how do we get rid of her and secondly why would we want to? U
I didn't say I was "keen to have the board sacked". Someone suggested that we (fans) should "vote no confidence in the board". I pointed out that this was technically and legally impossible, since our owner can do what she likes with the club. My comment about "only 5 players" was meant to be light=hearted, a la Osprey, really to poke fun at an obvious flaw in the OS. Then I looked at the full list of players on the OS, and made a more serious comment which you evidently agreed with.

I don't understand what has been happening to our club since last season - that wonderful season - ended. But we're all on the same side here.
It was 2toilets who wanted the board sacked - I was commenting generally on all the neg posts here, such as those upset that a business owner might actually (shock horror) want to have a profitable business. That Les Reed has done more for this club than all of them put together and will no doubt on Monday (and maybe even Sunday) be wracking his brains for the benefit of the club while the whiners will be down the boozer showing to their mates down they could do the job better. My answer is well apply then and await the outcome.
I understand emotion when it comes to Saints I've been having attacks of it for more years than I can remember. To comment whilst having an emotional turn (possibly fuelled by a can or three of white lightning is just a way of showing how stupid that particular poster is..
Too late at night to differentiate which particular poster said what idiotic comment so I will just has to say if the cap fits wear it. I am aware the innocent may have been dragged in with the guilty in which case I apologize to those august figures - the remainder can kiss my saggy arschlok.
Les reed has done more for this club than who? He is a joke and mugs like you will support him to take this club backwards.just like you did when Lowe was in charge.
This has all of the hallmarks of posts by our absent friend The Borer, what ever happened to him after his arch enemy disappeared?
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crossley Place Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crossley Place Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]peregrine73[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Wtf... West ham sign cresswell from ipswich.what is les doing? By far the best left back in the championship and only 24 and only cost west ham 4million.i know targett is coming through but he is not ready.clyne and chambers one side and cresswell an targett in the other.who are we going after? Some foreign journeyman. Any bid for ings or will we leave him for the hammers as well? Any bid for caulker or will we just let qpr have him.if we are losing out or not bothering with these players we must really be eyeing up some top quality replacements.some how I think not. Sack the board. LES REED OUT[/p][/quote]Well put,the reason there are no signings is simple!,they don't want to come a club hell bent on cashing in on transfers out for the financial return.This is the reality,the board want to make as much money as possible ,its about time the fans realise this and take action by voting no confidence in the board.If the board stay then expect further sells and a decline in the clubs fortune and position.[/p][/quote]Yes, but how exactly are us fans supposed to "vote no confidence in the board"? The Club has only one shareholder, KL, the owner, and the board are doing her bidding, by selling players to raise cash which can be paid out to her.[/p][/quote]We are told that all money coming in from players out will be available for players in. As far as we know there is also a little on top of that amount. So as things stand perhaps you could point out where KL has indicated she wants to let alone has banked the money from transfers for herself - which she is entitled to do as she owns the club outright. None of these players have been put up for sale they have all demanded a move - and nobody outside those directly involved knows just why. You can bet the doubling of their wages is a factor though. Perhaps you can explain why we would want Les Reed out for that. In time there may be some evidence of who done what at the club but as yet there is none. I ask now for about the fourth time. As you as so keen to have the board sacked, perhaps you can describe to us exactly how we do that please. There are no shareholders as in plural there is one - KL. So firstly how do we get rid of her and secondly why would we want to? U[/p][/quote]I didn't say I was "keen to have the board sacked". Someone suggested that we (fans) should "vote no confidence in the board". I pointed out that this was technically and legally impossible, since our owner can do what she likes with the club. My comment about "only 5 players" was meant to be light=hearted, a la Osprey, really to poke fun at an obvious flaw in the OS. Then I looked at the full list of players on the OS, and made a more serious comment which you evidently agreed with. I don't understand what has been happening to our club since last season - that wonderful season - ended. But we're all on the same side here.[/p][/quote]It was 2toilets who wanted the board sacked - I was commenting generally on all the neg posts here, such as those upset that a business owner might actually (shock horror) want to have a profitable business. That Les Reed has done more for this club than all of them put together and will no doubt on Monday (and maybe even Sunday) be wracking his brains for the benefit of the club while the whiners will be down the boozer showing to their mates down they could do the job better. My answer is well apply then and await the outcome. I understand emotion when it comes to Saints I've been having attacks of it for more years than I can remember. To comment whilst having an emotional turn (possibly fuelled by a can or three of white lightning is just a way of showing how stupid that particular poster is.. Too late at night to differentiate which particular poster said what idiotic comment so I will just has to say if the cap fits wear it. I am aware the innocent may have been dragged in with the guilty in which case I apologize to those august figures - the remainder can kiss my saggy arschlok.[/p][/quote]Les reed has done more for this club than who? He is a joke and mugs like you will support him to take this club backwards.just like you did when Lowe was in charge.[/p][/quote]This has all of the hallmarks of posts by our absent friend The Borer, what ever happened to him after his arch enemy disappeared? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

8:41am Sun 6 Jul 14

Bingo from Sholing says...

Dave Brown wrote:
The manner in which the board placed the season tickets on sale early and then selling three English International players is I feel a total con trick played on the supporters who purchased their tickets.
I am sure Les Reed and the board knew they would be selling and raising funds to clear the debts.
Do not believe the funds raised to date will be re invested in quality players.
Once the club is totally debt free I feel we could see the For Sale signs go up outside St Marys offers in excess of £150 million a few players available to sell on.
Well done Dave Brown. I totally agree with you, and thank you for saying it. We have been hoodwinked. The Board saw an opportunity, not an opportunity for winning trophies or finishing higher in the league, but an opportunity to cash in on behalf of he owner.
[quote][p][bold]Dave Brown[/bold] wrote: The manner in which the board placed the season tickets on sale early and then selling three English International players is I feel a total con trick played on the supporters who purchased their tickets. I am sure Les Reed and the board knew they would be selling and raising funds to clear the debts. Do not believe the funds raised to date will be re invested in quality players. Once the club is totally debt free I feel we could see the For Sale signs go up outside St Marys offers in excess of £150 million a few players available to sell on.[/p][/quote]Well done Dave Brown. I totally agree with you, and thank you for saying it. We have been hoodwinked. The Board saw an opportunity, not an opportunity for winning trophies or finishing higher in the league, but an opportunity to cash in on behalf of he owner. Bingo from Sholing
  • Score: 1

8:43am Sun 6 Jul 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Rising_Son wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Dave Brown wrote:
Yes Ospreysaint,I have supported The Saints through thick and thin for the last sixty years and I have no interest in The Skates.
Then I suggest you at least try to support them when they need you most, that means keeping your negative thoughts to yourself, posting your hopes, keeping the faith and wait for the good times to return. Ignor the WUMs they will only confuse and corrupt your thinking process. Sorry if you think I am bullying but that is how I feel right now.
Why is there always some fool on every forum telling people how to support their club . WHAT A MORON !

Its a free country , and free speech is allowed . No doubt this same fool was one of the ones spouting the same nonsense when Lowe was in charge .
"Its a free country , and free speech is allowed ." So, why do you have a problem with his comments?
Exactly Rising,so why do you keep jumping on other peoples comments and nitpicking all the time?
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Brown[/bold] wrote: Yes Ospreysaint,I have supported The Saints through thick and thin for the last sixty years and I have no interest in The Skates.[/p][/quote]Then I suggest you at least try to support them when they need you most, that means keeping your negative thoughts to yourself, posting your hopes, keeping the faith and wait for the good times to return. Ignor the WUMs they will only confuse and corrupt your thinking process. Sorry if you think I am bullying but that is how I feel right now.[/p][/quote]Why is there always some fool on every forum telling people how to support their club . WHAT A MORON ! Its a free country , and free speech is allowed . No doubt this same fool was one of the ones spouting the same nonsense when Lowe was in charge .[/p][/quote]"Its a free country , and free speech is allowed ." So, why do you have a problem with his comments?[/p][/quote]Exactly Rising,so why do you keep jumping on other peoples comments and nitpicking all the time? Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 5

9:05am Sun 6 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Dave Brown wrote:
You can bully as much as you want Osprey but having witnessed the politics of The Saints over the years I have I will write it as I see it .
I have made predictions and criticised situations in the past not only on this site but by letters aimed at former Chairmen so I will continue to post the situation as I personally witness it,I am not asking you to agree.
I do not enjoy being told by Les Reed that the club will not be selling players and then sell them and report for two weeks that players will be purchased and nothing happens.
He is taking the mick out of us all.
Fair enough, it seems opinions are fairly well divided on the subject of Les Reed, the evidence is so clouded, it is very difficult to get a clear picture, it does appear that just like Lowe, just like NC, some people have personal issues, in Lowes case they were proved right, in NCs case I am not so sure, in Les Reeds case I have yet to see any proof that what he is doing is good or bad for the Club. With our departing Players situation, there doesn't seem much else that could be done, but if you know better please tell me because I am angry about it, I don't understand any of it, but I am willing to hear the truth, not idle speculation and guesswork. Let us just agree, we all have the Clubs interest at heart, but we can't all have the same opinions on how to go about it. I may think people are idiots for their behaviour but I seldom call people names on here, I just say I disagree at the moment, because I can't find the evidence to support the negative views, my view can change with the presentation of hard facts. What is a fact, is that no amount of criticism on a newspaper web site is going to affect what actually happens in reality. If the matter really upsets you you can vote with your feet and walk away, that will be the hardest thing to do, but there is, apparently, life in the outside world.
[quote][p][bold]Dave Brown[/bold] wrote: You can bully as much as you want Osprey but having witnessed the politics of The Saints over the years I have I will write it as I see it . I have made predictions and criticised situations in the past not only on this site but by letters aimed at former Chairmen so I will continue to post the situation as I personally witness it,I am not asking you to agree. I do not enjoy being told by Les Reed that the club will not be selling players and then sell them and report for two weeks that players will be purchased and nothing happens. He is taking the mick out of us all.[/p][/quote]Fair enough, it seems opinions are fairly well divided on the subject of Les Reed, the evidence is so clouded, it is very difficult to get a clear picture, it does appear that just like Lowe, just like NC, some people have personal issues, in Lowes case they were proved right, in NCs case I am not so sure, in Les Reeds case I have yet to see any proof that what he is doing is good or bad for the Club. With our departing Players situation, there doesn't seem much else that could be done, but if you know better please tell me because I am angry about it, I don't understand any of it, but I am willing to hear the truth, not idle speculation and guesswork. Let us just agree, we all have the Clubs interest at heart, but we can't all have the same opinions on how to go about it. I may think people are idiots for their behaviour but I seldom call people names on here, I just say I disagree at the moment, because I can't find the evidence to support the negative views, my view can change with the presentation of hard facts. What is a fact, is that no amount of criticism on a newspaper web site is going to affect what actually happens in reality. If the matter really upsets you you can vote with your feet and walk away, that will be the hardest thing to do, but there is, apparently, life in the outside world. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

9:07am Sun 6 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Bingo from Sholing wrote:
Dave Brown wrote:
The manner in which the board placed the season tickets on sale early and then selling three English International players is I feel a total con trick played on the supporters who purchased their tickets.
I am sure Les Reed and the board knew they would be selling and raising funds to clear the debts.
Do not believe the funds raised to date will be re invested in quality players.
Once the club is totally debt free I feel we could see the For Sale signs go up outside St Marys offers in excess of £150 million a few players available to sell on.
Well done Dave Brown. I totally agree with you, and thank you for saying it. We have been hoodwinked. The Board saw an opportunity, not an opportunity for winning trophies or finishing higher in the league, but an opportunity to cash in on behalf of he owner.
Prove it with facts and I will go along with you.
[quote][p][bold]Bingo from Sholing[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Brown[/bold] wrote: The manner in which the board placed the season tickets on sale early and then selling three English International players is I feel a total con trick played on the supporters who purchased their tickets. I am sure Les Reed and the board knew they would be selling and raising funds to clear the debts. Do not believe the funds raised to date will be re invested in quality players. Once the club is totally debt free I feel we could see the For Sale signs go up outside St Marys offers in excess of £150 million a few players available to sell on.[/p][/quote]Well done Dave Brown. I totally agree with you, and thank you for saying it. We have been hoodwinked. The Board saw an opportunity, not an opportunity for winning trophies or finishing higher in the league, but an opportunity to cash in on behalf of he owner.[/p][/quote]Prove it with facts and I will go along with you. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

9:08am Sun 6 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Dave Brown wrote:
Yes Ospreysaint,I have supported The Saints through thick and thin for the last sixty years and I have no interest in The Skates.
Then I suggest you at least try to support them when they need you most, that means keeping your negative thoughts to yourself, posting your hopes, keeping the faith and wait for the good times to return. Ignor the WUMs they will only confuse and corrupt your thinking process. Sorry if you think I am bullying but that is how I feel right now.
Why is there always some fool on every forum telling people how to support their club . WHAT A MORON !

Its a free country , and free speech is allowed . No doubt this same fool was one of the ones spouting the same nonsense when Lowe was in charge .
"Its a free country , and free speech is allowed ." So, why do you have a problem with his comments?
Exactly Rising,so why do you keep jumping on other peoples comments and nitpicking all the time?
Because he can, just as you have done, it's called free speech, don't you just love it?
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Brown[/bold] wrote: Yes Ospreysaint,I have supported The Saints through thick and thin for the last sixty years and I have no interest in The Skates.[/p][/quote]Then I suggest you at least try to support them when they need you most, that means keeping your negative thoughts to yourself, posting your hopes, keeping the faith and wait for the good times to return. Ignor the WUMs they will only confuse and corrupt your thinking process. Sorry if you think I am bullying but that is how I feel right now.[/p][/quote]Why is there always some fool on every forum telling people how to support their club . WHAT A MORON ! Its a free country , and free speech is allowed . No doubt this same fool was one of the ones spouting the same nonsense when Lowe was in charge .[/p][/quote]"Its a free country , and free speech is allowed ." So, why do you have a problem with his comments?[/p][/quote]Exactly Rising,so why do you keep jumping on other peoples comments and nitpicking all the time?[/p][/quote]Because he can, just as you have done, it's called free speech, don't you just love it? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

9:09am Sun 6 Jul 14

Sammy2sheds says...

el caballo santos101 wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Crossley Place Saint wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Crossley Place Saint wrote:
peregrine73 wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Wtf... West ham sign cresswell from ipswich.what is les doing? By far the best left back in the championship and only 24 and only cost west ham 4million.i know targett is coming through but he is not ready.clyne and chambers one side and cresswell an targett in the other.who are we going after? Some foreign journeyman.
Any bid for ings or will we leave him for the hammers as well? Any bid for caulker or will we just let qpr have him.if we are losing out or not bothering with these players we must really be eyeing up some top quality replacements.some how I think not.
Sack the board.
LES REED OUT
Well put,the reason there are no signings is simple!,they don't want to come a club hell bent on cashing in on transfers out for the financial return.This is the reality,the board want to make as much money as possible ,its about time the fans realise this and take action by voting no confidence in the board.If the board stay then expect further sells and a decline in the clubs fortune and position.
Yes, but how exactly are us fans supposed to "vote no confidence in the board"? The Club has only one shareholder, KL, the owner, and the board are doing her bidding, by selling players to raise cash which can be paid out to her.
We are told that all money coming in from players out will be available for players in. As far as we know there is also a little on top of that amount. So as things stand perhaps you could point out where KL has indicated she wants to let alone has banked the money from transfers for herself - which she is entitled to do as she owns the club outright.

None of these players have been put up for sale they have all demanded a move - and nobody outside those directly involved knows just why. You can bet the doubling of their wages is a factor though.

Perhaps you can explain why we would want Les Reed out for that.

In time there may be some evidence of who done what at the club but as yet there is none.

I ask now for about the fourth time. As you as so keen to have the board sacked, perhaps you can describe to us exactly how we do that please. There are no shareholders as in plural there is one - KL. So firstly how do we get rid of her and secondly why would we want to? U
I didn't say I was "keen to have the board sacked". Someone suggested that we (fans) should "vote no confidence in the board". I pointed out that this was technically and legally impossible, since our owner can do what she likes with the club. My comment about "only 5 players" was meant to be light=hearted, a la Osprey, really to poke fun at an obvious flaw in the OS. Then I looked at the full list of players on the OS, and made a more serious comment which you evidently agreed with.

I don't understand what has been happening to our club since last season - that wonderful season - ended. But we're all on the same side here.
It was 2toilets who wanted the board sacked - I was commenting generally on all the neg posts here, such as those upset that a business owner might actually (shock horror) want to have a profitable business. That Les Reed has done more for this club than all of them put together and will no doubt on Monday (and maybe even Sunday) be wracking his brains for the benefit of the club while the whiners will be down the boozer showing to their mates down they could do the job better. My answer is well apply then and await the outcome.
I understand emotion when it comes to Saints I've been having attacks of it for more years than I can remember. To comment whilst having an emotional turn (possibly fuelled by a can or three of white lightning is just a way of showing how stupid that particular poster is..
Too late at night to differentiate which particular poster said what idiotic comment so I will just has to say if the cap fits wear it. I am aware the innocent may have been dragged in with the guilty in which case I apologize to those august figures - the remainder can kiss my saggy arschlok.
Les reed has done more for this club than who? He is a joke and mugs like you will support him to take this club backwards.just like you did when Lowe was in charge.
Go on then 2braincells I will play along,
Do you know how long les reed has been at the club?
Do you know who it was that appointed him?
Do you know what his position has been at the club?

I will take your views on les reed with the same irrelevance as I gave your claims on Bruce being our manager. In fact the same irrelevance as I give to any of your nonsense claims or statements!

If anyone is a joke and a mug around here 2braincells it is you, and I don't think that many on here think you are even a football fan let alone a saints fan.

Now I know that posting an anti 2braincells comment is going to see me get multiple thumbs down votes, however do you think that we haven't noticed that whenever you are around certain posts and posters get the multi-thumbs down treatment? You may think your being very clever or funny by doing it, but your just being as pathetic as your posts (which get around the same thumbs up as others get down, shocking).
I rest my case...
[quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crossley Place Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crossley Place Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]peregrine73[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Wtf... West ham sign cresswell from ipswich.what is les doing? By far the best left back in the championship and only 24 and only cost west ham 4million.i know targett is coming through but he is not ready.clyne and chambers one side and cresswell an targett in the other.who are we going after? Some foreign journeyman. Any bid for ings or will we leave him for the hammers as well? Any bid for caulker or will we just let qpr have him.if we are losing out or not bothering with these players we must really be eyeing up some top quality replacements.some how I think not. Sack the board. LES REED OUT[/p][/quote]Well put,the reason there are no signings is simple!,they don't want to come a club hell bent on cashing in on transfers out for the financial return.This is the reality,the board want to make as much money as possible ,its about time the fans realise this and take action by voting no confidence in the board.If the board stay then expect further sells and a decline in the clubs fortune and position.[/p][/quote]Yes, but how exactly are us fans supposed to "vote no confidence in the board"? The Club has only one shareholder, KL, the owner, and the board are doing her bidding, by selling players to raise cash which can be paid out to her.[/p][/quote]We are told that all money coming in from players out will be available for players in. As far as we know there is also a little on top of that amount. So as things stand perhaps you could point out where KL has indicated she wants to let alone has banked the money from transfers for herself - which she is entitled to do as she owns the club outright. None of these players have been put up for sale they have all demanded a move - and nobody outside those directly involved knows just why. You can bet the doubling of their wages is a factor though. Perhaps you can explain why we would want Les Reed out for that. In time there may be some evidence of who done what at the club but as yet there is none. I ask now for about the fourth time. As you as so keen to have the board sacked, perhaps you can describe to us exactly how we do that please. There are no shareholders as in plural there is one - KL. So firstly how do we get rid of her and secondly why would we want to? U[/p][/quote]I didn't say I was "keen to have the board sacked". Someone suggested that we (fans) should "vote no confidence in the board". I pointed out that this was technically and legally impossible, since our owner can do what she likes with the club. My comment about "only 5 players" was meant to be light=hearted, a la Osprey, really to poke fun at an obvious flaw in the OS. Then I looked at the full list of players on the OS, and made a more serious comment which you evidently agreed with. I don't understand what has been happening to our club since last season - that wonderful season - ended. But we're all on the same side here.[/p][/quote]It was 2toilets who wanted the board sacked - I was commenting generally on all the neg posts here, such as those upset that a business owner might actually (shock horror) want to have a profitable business. That Les Reed has done more for this club than all of them put together and will no doubt on Monday (and maybe even Sunday) be wracking his brains for the benefit of the club while the whiners will be down the boozer showing to their mates down they could do the job better. My answer is well apply then and await the outcome. I understand emotion when it comes to Saints I've been having attacks of it for more years than I can remember. To comment whilst having an emotional turn (possibly fuelled by a can or three of white lightning is just a way of showing how stupid that particular poster is.. Too late at night to differentiate which particular poster said what idiotic comment so I will just has to say if the cap fits wear it. I am aware the innocent may have been dragged in with the guilty in which case I apologize to those august figures - the remainder can kiss my saggy arschlok.[/p][/quote]Les reed has done more for this club than who? He is a joke and mugs like you will support him to take this club backwards.just like you did when Lowe was in charge.[/p][/quote]Go on then 2braincells I will play along, Do you know how long les reed has been at the club? Do you know who it was that appointed him? Do you know what his position has been at the club? I will take your views on les reed with the same irrelevance as I gave your claims on Bruce being our manager. In fact the same irrelevance as I give to any of your nonsense claims or statements! If anyone is a joke and a mug around here 2braincells it is you, and I don't think that many on here think you are even a football fan let alone a saints fan. Now I know that posting an anti 2braincells comment is going to see me get multiple thumbs down votes, however do you think that we haven't noticed that whenever you are around certain posts and posters get the multi-thumbs down treatment? You may think your being very clever or funny by doing it, but your just being as pathetic as your posts (which get around the same thumbs up as others get down, shocking).[/p][/quote]I rest my case... Sammy2sheds
  • Score: -4

9:13am Sun 6 Jul 14

jls217 says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Crossley Place Saint wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Crossley Place Saint wrote:
peregrine73 wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Wtf... West ham sign cresswell from ipswich.what is les doing? By far the best left back in the championship and only 24 and only cost west ham 4million.i know targett is coming through but he is not ready.clyne and chambers one side and cresswell an targett in the other.who are we going after? Some foreign journeyman.
Any bid for ings or will we leave him for the hammers as well? Any bid for caulker or will we just let qpr have him.if we are losing out or not bothering with these players we must really be eyeing up some top quality replacements.some how I think not.
Sack the board.
LES REED OUT
Well put,the reason there are no signings is simple!,they don't want to come a club hell bent on cashing in on transfers out for the financial return.This is the reality,the board want to make as much money as possible ,its about time the fans realise this and take action by voting no confidence in the board.If the board stay then expect further sells and a decline in the clubs fortune and position.
Yes, but how exactly are us fans supposed to "vote no confidence in the board"? The Club has only one shareholder, KL, the owner, and the board are doing her bidding, by selling players to raise cash which can be paid out to her.
We are told that all money coming in from players out will be available for players in. As far as we know there is also a little on top of that amount. So as things stand perhaps you could point out where KL has indicated she wants to let alone has banked the money from transfers for herself - which she is entitled to do as she owns the club outright.

None of these players have been put up for sale they have all demanded a move - and nobody outside those directly involved knows just why. You can bet the doubling of their wages is a factor though.

Perhaps you can explain why we would want Les Reed out for that.

In time there may be some evidence of who done what at the club but as yet there is none.

I ask now for about the fourth time. As you as so keen to have the board sacked, perhaps you can describe to us exactly how we do that please. There are no shareholders as in plural there is one - KL. So firstly how do we get rid of her and secondly why would we want to? U
I didn't say I was "keen to have the board sacked". Someone suggested that we (fans) should "vote no confidence in the board". I pointed out that this was technically and legally impossible, since our owner can do what she likes with the club. My comment about "only 5 players" was meant to be light=hearted, a la Osprey, really to poke fun at an obvious flaw in the OS. Then I looked at the full list of players on the OS, and made a more serious comment which you evidently agreed with.

I don't understand what has been happening to our club since last season - that wonderful season - ended. But we're all on the same side here.
It was 2toilets who wanted the board sacked - I was commenting generally on all the neg posts here, such as those upset that a business owner might actually (shock horror) want to have a profitable business. That Les Reed has done more for this club than all of them put together and will no doubt on Monday (and maybe even Sunday) be wracking his brains for the benefit of the club while the whiners will be down the boozer showing to their mates down they could do the job better. My answer is well apply then and await the outcome.
I understand emotion when it comes to Saints I've been having attacks of it for more years than I can remember. To comment whilst having an emotional turn (possibly fuelled by a can or three of white lightning is just a way of showing how stupid that particular poster is..
Too late at night to differentiate which particular poster said what idiotic comment so I will just has to say if the cap fits wear it. I am aware the innocent may have been dragged in with the guilty in which case I apologize to those august figures - the remainder can kiss my saggy arschlok.
Les reed has done more for this club than who? He is a joke and mugs like you will support him to take this club backwards.just like you did when Lowe was in charge.
You have no idea what I was up to during the Lowe period schite for brains.
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crossley Place Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crossley Place Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]peregrine73[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Wtf... West ham sign cresswell from ipswich.what is les doing? By far the best left back in the championship and only 24 and only cost west ham 4million.i know targett is coming through but he is not ready.clyne and chambers one side and cresswell an targett in the other.who are we going after? Some foreign journeyman. Any bid for ings or will we leave him for the hammers as well? Any bid for caulker or will we just let qpr have him.if we are losing out or not bothering with these players we must really be eyeing up some top quality replacements.some how I think not. Sack the board. LES REED OUT[/p][/quote]Well put,the reason there are no signings is simple!,they don't want to come a club hell bent on cashing in on transfers out for the financial return.This is the reality,the board want to make as much money as possible ,its about time the fans realise this and take action by voting no confidence in the board.If the board stay then expect further sells and a decline in the clubs fortune and position.[/p][/quote]Yes, but how exactly are us fans supposed to "vote no confidence in the board"? The Club has only one shareholder, KL, the owner, and the board are doing her bidding, by selling players to raise cash which can be paid out to her.[/p][/quote]We are told that all money coming in from players out will be available for players in. As far as we know there is also a little on top of that amount. So as things stand perhaps you could point out where KL has indicated she wants to let alone has banked the money from transfers for herself - which she is entitled to do as she owns the club outright. None of these players have been put up for sale they have all demanded a move - and nobody outside those directly involved knows just why. You can bet the doubling of their wages is a factor though. Perhaps you can explain why we would want Les Reed out for that. In time there may be some evidence of who done what at the club but as yet there is none. I ask now for about the fourth time. As you as so keen to have the board sacked, perhaps you can describe to us exactly how we do that please. There are no shareholders as in plural there is one - KL. So firstly how do we get rid of her and secondly why would we want to? U[/p][/quote]I didn't say I was "keen to have the board sacked". Someone suggested that we (fans) should "vote no confidence in the board". I pointed out that this was technically and legally impossible, since our owner can do what she likes with the club. My comment about "only 5 players" was meant to be light=hearted, a la Osprey, really to poke fun at an obvious flaw in the OS. Then I looked at the full list of players on the OS, and made a more serious comment which you evidently agreed with. I don't understand what has been happening to our club since last season - that wonderful season - ended. But we're all on the same side here.[/p][/quote]It was 2toilets who wanted the board sacked - I was commenting generally on all the neg posts here, such as those upset that a business owner might actually (shock horror) want to have a profitable business. That Les Reed has done more for this club than all of them put together and will no doubt on Monday (and maybe even Sunday) be wracking his brains for the benefit of the club while the whiners will be down the boozer showing to their mates down they could do the job better. My answer is well apply then and await the outcome. I understand emotion when it comes to Saints I've been having attacks of it for more years than I can remember. To comment whilst having an emotional turn (possibly fuelled by a can or three of white lightning is just a way of showing how stupid that particular poster is.. Too late at night to differentiate which particular poster said what idiotic comment so I will just has to say if the cap fits wear it. I am aware the innocent may have been dragged in with the guilty in which case I apologize to those august figures - the remainder can kiss my saggy arschlok.[/p][/quote]Les reed has done more for this club than who? He is a joke and mugs like you will support him to take this club backwards.just like you did when Lowe was in charge.[/p][/quote]You have no idea what I was up to during the Lowe period schite for brains. jls217
  • Score: -6

9:15am Sun 6 Jul 14

Positively4thStreet says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Dave Brown wrote:
Yes Ospreysaint,I have supported The Saints through thick and thin for the last sixty years and I have no interest in The Skates.
Then I suggest you at least try to support them when they need you most, that means keeping your negative thoughts to yourself, posting your hopes, keeping the faith and wait for the good times to return. Ignor the WUMs they will only confuse and corrupt your thinking process. Sorry if you think I am bullying but that is how I feel right now.
Why is there always some fool on every forum telling people how to support their club . WHAT A MORON !

Its a free country , and free speech is allowed . No doubt this same fool was one of the ones spouting the same nonsense when Lowe was in charge .
"Its a free country , and free speech is allowed ." So, why do you have a problem with his comments?
Exactly Rising,so why do you keep jumping on other peoples comments and nitpicking all the time?
Because he can, just as you have done, it's called free speech, don't you just love it?
Yes I do mate! I just demand the right to come on here and spout my drivel(and I spout a lot of it)without fear of being criticised for doing so.
(That'll put the thumbs up/thumbs downers in a quandary). ;0)
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Brown[/bold] wrote: Yes Ospreysaint,I have supported The Saints through thick and thin for the last sixty years and I have no interest in The Skates.[/p][/quote]Then I suggest you at least try to support them when they need you most, that means keeping your negative thoughts to yourself, posting your hopes, keeping the faith and wait for the good times to return. Ignor the WUMs they will only confuse and corrupt your thinking process. Sorry if you think I am bullying but that is how I feel right now.[/p][/quote]Why is there always some fool on every forum telling people how to support their club . WHAT A MORON ! Its a free country , and free speech is allowed . No doubt this same fool was one of the ones spouting the same nonsense when Lowe was in charge .[/p][/quote]"Its a free country , and free speech is allowed ." So, why do you have a problem with his comments?[/p][/quote]Exactly Rising,so why do you keep jumping on other peoples comments and nitpicking all the time?[/p][/quote]Because he can, just as you have done, it's called free speech, don't you just love it?[/p][/quote]Yes I do mate! I just demand the right to come on here and spout my drivel(and I spout a lot of it)without fear of being criticised for doing so. (That'll put the thumbs up/thumbs downers in a quandary). ;0) Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 1

9:15am Sun 6 Jul 14

jls217 says...

Sammy2sheds wrote:
el caballo santos101 wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Crossley Place Saint wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Crossley Place Saint wrote:
peregrine73 wrote:
Sammy2sheds wrote:
Wtf... West ham sign cresswell from ipswich.what is les doing? By far the best left back in the championship and only 24 and only cost west ham 4million.i know targett is coming through but he is not ready.clyne and chambers one side and cresswell an targett in the other.who are we going after? Some foreign journeyman.
Any bid for ings or will we leave him for the hammers as well? Any bid for caulker or will we just let qpr have him.if we are losing out or not bothering with these players we must really be eyeing up some top quality replacements.some how I think not.
Sack the board.
LES REED OUT
Well put,the reason there are no signings is simple!,they don't want to come a club hell bent on cashing in on transfers out for the financial return.This is the reality,the board want to make as much money as possible ,its about time the fans realise this and take action by voting no confidence in the board.If the board stay then expect further sells and a decline in the clubs fortune and position.
Yes, but how exactly are us fans supposed to "vote no confidence in the board"? The Club has only one shareholder, KL, the owner, and the board are doing her bidding, by selling players to raise cash which can be paid out to her.
We are told that all money coming in from players out will be available for players in. As far as we know there is also a little on top of that amount. So as things stand perhaps you could point out where KL has indicated she wants to let alone has banked the money from transfers for herself - which she is entitled to do as she owns the club outright.

None of these players have been put up for sale they have all demanded a move - and nobody outside those directly involved knows just why. You can bet the doubling of their wages is a factor though.

Perhaps you can explain why we would want Les Reed out for that.

In time there may be some evidence of who done what at the club but as yet there is none.

I ask now for about the fourth time. As you as so keen to have the board sacked, perhaps you can describe to us exactly how we do that please. There are no shareholders as in plural there is one - KL. So firstly how do we get rid of her and secondly why would we want to? U
I didn't say I was "keen to have the board sacked". Someone suggested that we (fans) should "vote no confidence in the board". I pointed out that this was technically and legally impossible, since our owner can do what she likes with the club. My comment about "only 5 players" was meant to be light=hearted, a la Osprey, really to poke fun at an obvious flaw in the OS. Then I looked at the full list of players on the OS, and made a more serious comment which you evidently agreed with.

I don't understand what has been happening to our club since last season - that wonderful season - ended. But we're all on the same side here.
It was 2toilets who wanted the board sacked - I was commenting generally on all the neg posts here, such as those upset that a business owner might actually (shock horror) want to have a profitable business. That Les Reed has done more for this club than all of them put together and will no doubt on Monday (and maybe even Sunday) be wracking his brains for the benefit of the club while the whiners will be down the boozer showing to their mates down they could do the job better. My answer is well apply then and await the outcome.
I understand emotion when it comes to Saints I've been having attacks of it for more years than I can remember. To comment whilst having an emotional turn (possibly fuelled by a can or three of white lightning is just a way of showing how stupid that particular poster is..
Too late at night to differentiate which particular poster said what idiotic comment so I will just has to say if the cap fits wear it. I am aware the innocent may have been dragged in with the guilty in which case I apologize to those august figures - the remainder can kiss my saggy arschlok.
Les reed has done more for this club than who? He is a joke and mugs like you will support him to take this club backwards.just like you did when Lowe was in charge.
Go on then 2braincells I will play along,
Do you know how long les reed has been at the club?
Do you know who it was that appointed him?
Do you know what his position has been at the club?

I will take your views on les reed with the same irrelevance as I gave your claims on Bruce being our manager. In fact the same irrelevance as I give to any of your nonsense claims or statements!

If anyone is a joke and a mug around here 2braincells it is you, and I don't think that many on here think you are even a football fan let alone a saints fan.

Now I know that posting an anti 2braincells comment is going to see me get multiple thumbs down votes, however do you think that we haven't noticed that whenever you are around certain posts and posters get the multi-thumbs down treatment? You may think your being very clever or funny by doing it, but your just being as pathetic as your posts (which get around the same thumbs up as others get down, shocking).
I rest my case...
What - your case of white lightning or whatever it is you use to make your thinking dysfunctional nowadays.
[quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]el caballo santos101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crossley Place Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Crossley Place Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]peregrine73[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sammy2sheds[/bold] wrote: Wtf... West ham sign cresswell from ipswich.what is les doing? By far the best left back in the championship and only 24 and only cost west ham 4million.i know targett is coming through but he is not ready.clyne and chambers one side and cresswell an targett in the other.who are we going after? Some foreign journeyman. Any bid for ings or will we leave him for the hammers as well? Any bid for caulker or will we just let qpr have him.if we are losing out or not bothering with these players we must really be eyeing up some top quality replacements.some how I think not. Sack the board. LES REED OUT[/p][/quote]Well put,the reason there are no signings is simple!,they don't want to come a club hell bent on cashing in on transfers out for the financial return.This is the reality,the board want to make as much money as possible ,its about time the fans realise this and take action by voting no confidence in the board.If the board stay then expect further sells and a decline in the clubs fortune and position.[/p][/quote]Yes, but how exactly are us fans supposed to "vote no confidence in the board"? The Club has only one shareholder, KL, the owner, and the board are doing her bidding, by selling players to raise cash which can be paid out to her.[/p][/quote]We are told that all money coming in from players out will be available for players in. As far as we know there is also a little on top of that amount. So as things stand perhaps you could point out where KL has indicated she wants to let alone has banked the money from transfers for herself - which she is entitled to do as she owns the club outright. None of these players have been put up for sale they have all demanded a move - and nobody outside those directly involved knows just why. You can bet the doubling of their wages is a factor though. Perhaps you can explain why we would want Les Reed out for that. In time there may be some evidence of who done what at the club but as yet there is none. I ask now for about the fourth time. As you as so keen to have the board sacked, perhaps you can describe to us exactly how we do that please. There are no shareholders as in plural there is one - KL. So firstly how do we get rid of her and secondly why would we want to? U[/p][/quote]I didn't say I was "keen to have the board sacked". Someone suggested that we (fans) should "vote no confidence in the board". I pointed out that this was technically and legally impossible, since our owner can do what she likes with the club. My comment about "only 5 players" was meant to be light=hearted, a la Osprey, really to poke fun at an obvious flaw in the OS. Then I looked at the full list of players on the OS, and made a more serious comment which you evidently agreed with. I don't understand what has been happening to our club since last season - that wonderful season - ended. But we're all on the same side here.[/p][/quote]It was 2toilets who wanted the board sacked - I was commenting generally on all the neg posts here, such as those upset that a business owner might actually (shock horror) want to have a profitable business. That Les Reed has done more for this club than all of them put together and will no doubt on Monday (and maybe even Sunday) be wracking his brains for the benefit of the club while the whiners will be down the boozer showing to their mates down they could do the job better. My answer is well apply then and await the outcome. I understand emotion when it comes to Saints I've been having attacks of it for more years than I can remember. To comment whilst having an emotional turn (possibly fuelled by a can or three of white lightning is just a way of showing how stupid that particular poster is.. Too late at night to differentiate which particular poster said what idiotic comment so I will just has to say if the cap fits wear it. I am aware the innocent may have been dragged in with the guilty in which case I apologize to those august figures - the remainder can kiss my saggy arschlok.[/p][/quote]Les reed has done more for this club than who? He is a joke and mugs like you will support him to take this club backwards.just like you did when Lowe was in charge.[/p][/quote]Go on then 2braincells I will play along, Do you know how long les reed has been at the club? Do you know who it was that appointed him? Do you know what his position has been at the club? I will take your views on les reed with the same irrelevance as I gave your claims on Bruce being our manager. In fact the same irrelevance as I give to any of your nonsense claims or statements! If anyone is a joke and a mug around here 2braincells it is you, and I don't think that many on here think you are even a football fan let alone a saints fan. Now I know that posting an anti 2braincells comment is going to see me get multiple thumbs down votes, however do you think that we haven't noticed that whenever you are around certain posts and posters get the multi-thumbs down treatment? You may think your being very clever or funny by doing it, but your just being as pathetic as your posts (which get around the same thumbs up as others get down, shocking).[/p][/quote]I rest my case...[/p][/quote]What - your case of white lightning or whatever it is you use to make your thinking dysfunctional nowadays. jls217
  • Score: -6

9:17am Sun 6 Jul 14

Littleton-Saint says...

Littleton-Saint wrote:
deepheat wrote:
Players that are worth a look;-

Will Hughes - Derby
Danny Ings - Burnley
Ross McCormack - Leeds
Buy these players and we'll have a Championship side - we can do better.
Our players on the ride up from League 1 and with a few expensive additions could only manage 8th position last season.
If we want to improve upon that performance, then we need to buy better
quality players who have top-level experience.
Replacing Lallana with Tadic is a good start in improving the first
team. Exceptional lower league talent is always welcome but players kike Ings are not proven at a higher level. In his last game in an England shirt, he looked out if his depth.
[quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]deepheat[/bold] wrote: Players that are worth a look;- Will Hughes - Derby Danny Ings - Burnley Ross McCormack - Leeds[/p][/quote]Buy these players and we'll have a Championship side - we can do better.[/p][/quote]Our players on the ride up from League 1 and with a few expensive additions could only manage 8th position last season. If we want to improve upon that performance, then we need to buy better quality players who have top-level experience. Replacing Lallana with Tadic is a good start in improving the first team. Exceptional lower league talent is always welcome but players kike Ings are not proven at a higher level. In his last game in an England shirt, he looked out if his depth. Littleton-Saint
  • Score: -1

9:18am Sun 6 Jul 14

SodburySaint93 says...

Picked up a couple of snippets in the on-line press this morning.

1) Hernandez at man u did'nt want to come to Saints as he felt it too much a step down (really - one place in the league !!!) - okay man u are a bigger club but Hernandez ain't RVP is he.

2) Morgan suggests that money spent wisely from transfer kitty may keep him at the club - he probably wants to know who he will be playing with next season the same as us fans. If there is no major intent for proven players coming in, then I think he will see it as lack of ambition and be off.

Just my thoughts
Picked up a couple of snippets in the on-line press this morning. 1) Hernandez at man u did'nt want to come to Saints as he felt it too much a step down (really - one place in the league !!!) - okay man u are a bigger club but Hernandez ain't RVP is he. 2) Morgan suggests that money spent wisely from transfer kitty may keep him at the club - he probably wants to know who he will be playing with next season the same as us fans. If there is no major intent for proven players coming in, then I think he will see it as lack of ambition and be off. Just my thoughts SodburySaint93
  • Score: 2

9:18am Sun 6 Jul 14

jls217 says...

I read this little snippet provided by the Daily Mirror that Hernandez (Cliqatwatto) has refused a move to Southampton as he see it as too big a step down.

Hmmm.... sounds like we've had a lucky escape there then lads.

B
I read this little snippet provided by the Daily Mirror that Hernandez (Cliqatwatto) has refused a move to Southampton as he see it as too big a step down. Hmmm.... sounds like we've had a lucky escape there then lads. B jls217
  • Score: 0

9:22am Sun 6 Jul 14

jls217 says...

SodburySaint93 wrote:
Picked up a couple of snippets in the on-line press this morning.

1) Hernandez at man u did'nt want to come to Saints as he felt it too much a step down (really - one place in the league !!!) - okay man u are a bigger club but Hernandez ain't RVP is he.

2) Morgan suggests that money spent wisely from transfer kitty may keep him at the club - he probably wants to know who he will be playing with next season the same as us fans. If there is no major intent for proven players coming in, then I think he will see it as lack of ambition and be off.

Just my thoughts
Hope Morgan gossip pans out for us - he really is the man we should build the team around.

Wonder why Pinchatinny hasn't been back to his old club to rob us of our crown jewels????

Has Les put a clause in his departure agreement - a non rape clause for the next 12 months or so - I guess that would be legal?
[quote][p][bold]SodburySaint93[/bold] wrote: Picked up a couple of snippets in the on-line press this morning. 1) Hernandez at man u did'nt want to come to Saints as he felt it too much a step down (really - one place in the league !!!) - okay man u are a bigger club but Hernandez ain't RVP is he. 2) Morgan suggests that money spent wisely from transfer kitty may keep him at the club - he probably wants to know who he will be playing with next season the same as us fans. If there is no major intent for proven players coming in, then I think he will see it as lack of ambition and be off. Just my thoughts[/p][/quote]Hope Morgan gossip pans out for us - he really is the man we should build the team around. Wonder why Pinchatinny hasn't been back to his old club to rob us of our crown jewels???? Has Les put a clause in his departure agreement - a non rape clause for the next 12 months or so - I guess that would be legal? jls217
  • Score: -1

9:24am Sun 6 Jul 14

jls217 says...

Looks like we can forget about Caulker too - there is gossip that he's signed for QPR - who knows with newspapers.
Looks like we can forget about Caulker too - there is gossip that he's signed for QPR - who knows with newspapers. jls217
  • Score: 0

9:26am Sun 6 Jul 14

SodburySaint93 says...

jls217 wrote:
SodburySaint93 wrote:
Picked up a couple of snippets in the on-line press this morning.

1) Hernandez at man u did'nt want to come to Saints as he felt it too much a step down (really - one place in the league !!!) - okay man u are a bigger club but Hernandez ain't RVP is he.

2) Morgan suggests that money spent wisely from transfer kitty may keep him at the club - he probably wants to know who he will be playing with next season the same as us fans. If there is no major intent for proven players coming in, then I think he will see it as lack of ambition and be off.

Just my thoughts
Hope Morgan gossip pans out for us - he really is the man we should build the team around.

Wonder why Pinchatinny hasn't been back to his old club to rob us of our crown jewels????

Has Les put a clause in his departure agreement - a non rape clause for the next 12 months or so - I guess that would be legal?
Hopefully someone put that clause in !!!

And we all know that everyone adheres to their contracts....mmmm !
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SodburySaint93[/bold] wrote: Picked up a couple of snippets in the on-line press this morning. 1) Hernandez at man u did'nt want to come to Saints as he felt it too much a step down (really - one place in the league !!!) - okay man u are a bigger club but Hernandez ain't RVP is he. 2) Morgan suggests that money spent wisely from transfer kitty may keep him at the club - he probably wants to know who he will be playing with next season the same as us fans. If there is no major intent for proven players coming in, then I think he will see it as lack of ambition and be off. Just my thoughts[/p][/quote]Hope Morgan gossip pans out for us - he really is the man we should build the team around. Wonder why Pinchatinny hasn't been back to his old club to rob us of our crown jewels???? Has Les put a clause in his departure agreement - a non rape clause for the next 12 months or so - I guess that would be legal?[/p][/quote]Hopefully someone put that clause in !!! And we all know that everyone adheres to their contracts....mmmm ! SodburySaint93
  • Score: 0

9:38am Sun 6 Jul 14

Rising_Son says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Dave Brown wrote:
Yes Ospreysaint,I have supported The Saints through thick and thin for the last sixty years and I have no interest in The Skates.
Then I suggest you at least try to support them when they need you most, that means keeping your negative thoughts to yourself, posting your hopes, keeping the faith and wait for the good times to return. Ignor the WUMs they will only confuse and corrupt your thinking process. Sorry if you think I am bullying but that is how I feel right now.
Why is there always some fool on every forum telling people how to support their club . WHAT A MORON !

Its a free country , and free speech is allowed . No doubt this same fool was one of the ones spouting the same nonsense when Lowe was in charge .
"Its a free country , and free speech is allowed ." So, why do you have a problem with his comments?
Exactly Rising,so why do you keep jumping on other peoples comments and nitpicking all the time?
I'm exercising my right to free speech, just like you are.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Brown[/bold] wrote: Yes Ospreysaint,I have supported The Saints through thick and thin for the last sixty years and I have no interest in The Skates.[/p][/quote]Then I suggest you at least try to support them when they need you most, that means keeping your negative thoughts to yourself, posting your hopes, keeping the faith and wait for the good times to return. Ignor the WUMs they will only confuse and corrupt your thinking process. Sorry if you think I am bullying but that is how I feel right now.[/p][/quote]Why is there always some fool on every forum telling people how to support their club . WHAT A MORON ! Its a free country , and free speech is allowed . No doubt this same fool was one of the ones spouting the same nonsense when Lowe was in charge .[/p][/quote]"Its a free country , and free speech is allowed ." So, why do you have a problem with his comments?[/p][/quote]Exactly Rising,so why do you keep jumping on other peoples comments and nitpicking all the time?[/p][/quote]I'm exercising my right to free speech, just like you are. Rising_Son
  • Score: 2

9:39am Sun 6 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Dave Brown wrote:
Yes Ospreysaint,I have supported The Saints through thick and thin for the last sixty years and I have no interest in The Skates.
Then I suggest you at least try to support them when they need you most, that means keeping your negative thoughts to yourself, posting your hopes, keeping the faith and wait for the good times to return. Ignor the WUMs they will only confuse and corrupt your thinking process. Sorry if you think I am bullying but that is how I feel right now.
Why is there always some fool on every forum telling people how to support their club . WHAT A MORON !

Its a free country , and free speech is allowed . No doubt this same fool was one of the ones spouting the same nonsense when Lowe was in charge .
"Its a free country , and free speech is allowed ." So, why do you have a problem with his comments?
Exactly Rising,so why do you keep jumping on other peoples comments and nitpicking all the time?
Because he can, just as you have done, it's called free speech, don't you just love it?
Yes I do mate! I just demand the right to come on here and spout my drivel(and I spout a lot of it)without fear of being criticised for doing so.
(That'll put the thumbs up/thumbs downers in a quandary). ;0)
I post on here expecting to be challenged and criticised, that's the whole point of a discussion site, I have opinions, which can be altered with the presentation of clear facts and evidence, the people that I challenge are mostly those that post their nonsense based on hearsay and rumour, false facts and WUMmery.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Brown[/bold] wrote: Yes Ospreysaint,I have supported The Saints through thick and thin for the last sixty years and I have no interest in The Skates.[/p][/quote]Then I suggest you at least try to support them when they need you most, that means keeping your negative thoughts to yourself, posting your hopes, keeping the faith and wait for the good times to return. Ignor the WUMs they will only confuse and corrupt your thinking process. Sorry if you think I am bullying but that is how I feel right now.[/p][/quote]Why is there always some fool on every forum telling people how to support their club . WHAT A MORON ! Its a free country , and free speech is allowed . No doubt this same fool was one of the ones spouting the same nonsense when Lowe was in charge .[/p][/quote]"Its a free country , and free speech is allowed ." So, why do you have a problem with his comments?[/p][/quote]Exactly Rising,so why do you keep jumping on other peoples comments and nitpicking all the time?[/p][/quote]Because he can, just as you have done, it's called free speech, don't you just love it?[/p][/quote]Yes I do mate! I just demand the right to come on here and spout my drivel(and I spout a lot of it)without fear of being criticised for doing so. (That'll put the thumbs up/thumbs downers in a quandary). ;0)[/p][/quote]I post on here expecting to be challenged and criticised, that's the whole point of a discussion site, I have opinions, which can be altered with the presentation of clear facts and evidence, the people that I challenge are mostly those that post their nonsense based on hearsay and rumour, false facts and WUMmery. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -5

9:43am Sun 6 Jul 14

Positively4thStreet says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Dave Brown wrote:
Yes Ospreysaint,I have supported The Saints through thick and thin for the last sixty years and I have no interest in The Skates.
Then I suggest you at least try to support them when they need you most, that means keeping your negative thoughts to yourself, posting your hopes, keeping the faith and wait for the good times to return. Ignor the WUMs they will only confuse and corrupt your thinking process. Sorry if you think I am bullying but that is how I feel right now.
Why is there always some fool on every forum telling people how to support their club . WHAT A MORON !

Its a free country , and free speech is allowed . No doubt this same fool was one of the ones spouting the same nonsense when Lowe was in charge .
"Its a free country , and free speech is allowed ." So, why do you have a problem with his comments?
Exactly Rising,so why do you keep jumping on other peoples comments and nitpicking all the time?
Because he can, just as you have done, it's called free speech, don't you just love it?
Yes I do mate! I just demand the right to come on here and spout my drivel(and I spout a lot of it)without fear of being criticised for doing so.
(That'll put the thumbs up/thumbs downers in a quandary). ;0)
I post on here expecting to be challenged and criticised, that's the whole point of a discussion site, I have opinions, which can be altered with the presentation of clear facts and evidence, the people that I challenge are mostly those that post their nonsense based on hearsay and rumour, false facts and WUMmery.
Like you and Rising keep reminding us Osprey,its called Free Speech.Agree with it or disagree with it,but don't criticise any poster for saying it,freedom of speech doesn't allow you that luxury.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Brown[/bold] wrote: Yes Ospreysaint,I have supported The Saints through thick and thin for the last sixty years and I have no interest in The Skates.[/p][/quote]Then I suggest you at least try to support them when they need you most, that means keeping your negative thoughts to yourself, posting your hopes, keeping the faith and wait for the good times to return. Ignor the WUMs they will only confuse and corrupt your thinking process. Sorry if you think I am bullying but that is how I feel right now.[/p][/quote]Why is there always some fool on every forum telling people how to support their club . WHAT A MORON ! Its a free country , and free speech is allowed . No doubt this same fool was one of the ones spouting the same nonsense when Lowe was in charge .[/p][/quote]"Its a free country , and free speech is allowed ." So, why do you have a problem with his comments?[/p][/quote]Exactly Rising,so why do you keep jumping on other peoples comments and nitpicking all the time?[/p][/quote]Because he can, just as you have done, it's called free speech, don't you just love it?[/p][/quote]Yes I do mate! I just demand the right to come on here and spout my drivel(and I spout a lot of it)without fear of being criticised for doing so. (That'll put the thumbs up/thumbs downers in a quandary). ;0)[/p][/quote]I post on here expecting to be challenged and criticised, that's the whole point of a discussion site, I have opinions, which can be altered with the presentation of clear facts and evidence, the people that I challenge are mostly those that post their nonsense based on hearsay and rumour, false facts and WUMmery.[/p][/quote]Like you and Rising keep reminding us Osprey,its called Free Speech.Agree with it or disagree with it,but don't criticise any poster for saying it,freedom of speech doesn't allow you that luxury. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 2

9:44am Sun 6 Jul 14

Rising_Son says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Dave Brown wrote:
Yes Ospreysaint,I have supported The Saints through thick and thin for the last sixty years and I have no interest in The Skates.
Then I suggest you at least try to support them when they need you most, that means keeping your negative thoughts to yourself, posting your hopes, keeping the faith and wait for the good times to return. Ignor the WUMs they will only confuse and corrupt your thinking process. Sorry if you think I am bullying but that is how I feel right now.
Why is there always some fool on every forum telling people how to support their club . WHAT A MORON !

Its a free country , and free speech is allowed . No doubt this same fool was one of the ones spouting the same nonsense when Lowe was in charge .
"Its a free country , and free speech is allowed ." So, why do you have a problem with his comments?
Exactly Rising,so why do you keep jumping on other peoples comments and nitpicking all the time?
Because he can, just as you have done, it's called free speech, don't you just love it?
Yes I do mate! I just demand the right to come on here and spout my drivel(and I spout a lot of it)without fear of being criticised for doing so.
(That'll put the thumbs up/thumbs downers in a quandary). ;0)
But freedom of speech includes the freedom to criticise.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Brown[/bold] wrote: Yes Ospreysaint,I have supported The Saints through thick and thin for the last sixty years and I have no interest in The Skates.[/p][/quote]Then I suggest you at least try to support them when they need you most, that means keeping your negative thoughts to yourself, posting your hopes, keeping the faith and wait for the good times to return. Ignor the WUMs they will only confuse and corrupt your thinking process. Sorry if you think I am bullying but that is how I feel right now.[/p][/quote]Why is there always some fool on every forum telling people how to support their club . WHAT A MORON ! Its a free country , and free speech is allowed . No doubt this same fool was one of the ones spouting the same nonsense when Lowe was in charge .[/p][/quote]"Its a free country , and free speech is allowed ." So, why do you have a problem with his comments?[/p][/quote]Exactly Rising,so why do you keep jumping on other peoples comments and nitpicking all the time?[/p][/quote]Because he can, just as you have done, it's called free speech, don't you just love it?[/p][/quote]Yes I do mate! I just demand the right to come on here and spout my drivel(and I spout a lot of it)without fear of being criticised for doing so. (That'll put the thumbs up/thumbs downers in a quandary). ;0)[/p][/quote]But freedom of speech includes the freedom to criticise. Rising_Son
  • Score: 1

9:45am Sun 6 Jul 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

Apparently Morgan has said he is prepared to listen to what Ron and the club have to say before deciding his future. The outcome will tell us all we need to know, if he stays it's because we're pushing on.
Apparently Morgan has said he is prepared to listen to what Ron and the club have to say before deciding his future. The outcome will tell us all we need to know, if he stays it's because we're pushing on. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 0

9:46am Sun 6 Jul 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Dave Brown wrote:
Yes Ospreysaint,I have supported The Saints through thick and thin for the last sixty years and I have no interest in The Skates.
Then I suggest you at least try to support them when they need you most, that means keeping your negative thoughts to yourself, posting your hopes, keeping the faith and wait for the good times to return. Ignor the WUMs they will only confuse and corrupt your thinking process. Sorry if you think I am bullying but that is how I feel right now.
Why is there always some fool on every forum telling people how to support their club . WHAT A MORON !

Its a free country , and free speech is allowed . No doubt this same fool was one of the ones spouting the same nonsense when Lowe was in charge .
"Its a free country , and free speech is allowed ." So, why do you have a problem with his comments?
Exactly Rising,so why do you keep jumping on other peoples comments and nitpicking all the time?
Because he can, just as you have done, it's called free speech, don't you just love it?
Yes I do mate! I just demand the right to come on here and spout my drivel(and I spout a lot of it)without fear of being criticised for doing so.
(That'll put the thumbs up/thumbs downers in a quandary). ;0)
But freedom of speech includes the freedom to criticise.
No,it allows you the freedom to agree or disagree with the statement someone has made,not criticise them personally for saying it.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Brown[/bold] wrote: Yes Ospreysaint,I have supported The Saints through thick and thin for the last sixty years and I have no interest in The Skates.[/p][/quote]Then I suggest you at least try to support them when they need you most, that means keeping your negative thoughts to yourself, posting your hopes, keeping the faith and wait for the good times to return. Ignor the WUMs they will only confuse and corrupt your thinking process. Sorry if you think I am bullying but that is how I feel right now.[/p][/quote]Why is there always some fool on every forum telling people how to support their club . WHAT A MORON ! Its a free country , and free speech is allowed . No doubt this same fool was one of the ones spouting the same nonsense when Lowe was in charge .[/p][/quote]"Its a free country , and free speech is allowed ." So, why do you have a problem with his comments?[/p][/quote]Exactly Rising,so why do you keep jumping on other peoples comments and nitpicking all the time?[/p][/quote]Because he can, just as you have done, it's called free speech, don't you just love it?[/p][/quote]Yes I do mate! I just demand the right to come on here and spout my drivel(and I spout a lot of it)without fear of being criticised for doing so. (That'll put the thumbs up/thumbs downers in a quandary). ;0)[/p][/quote]But freedom of speech includes the freedom to criticise.[/p][/quote]No,it allows you the freedom to agree or disagree with the statement someone has made,not criticise them personally for saying it. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 4

9:48am Sun 6 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

jls217 wrote:
I read this little snippet provided by the Daily Mirror that Hernandez (Cliqatwatto) has refused a move to Southampton as he see it as too big a step down.

Hmmm.... sounds like we've had a lucky escape there then lads.

B
He has probably been brainwashed like so many other misguided individuals, our new Board probably haven't got the nous of NC, his approach dragged players in begging to be signed up on generous promises, that approach won't work anymore for us, as he was found out in the long run. Our approach now is to sell the Club as one that could be very good if given the chance to be so, but we want players that want to be here for the right reasons, not just as a stepping stone to better things. Getting the right players is a tall order and will take time, for us it is so much more difficult thanks to recent events, patience is essential, but time is running out, there may have to be some compromise while we rebuild.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: I read this little snippet provided by the Daily Mirror that Hernandez (Cliqatwatto) has refused a move to Southampton as he see it as too big a step down. Hmmm.... sounds like we've had a lucky escape there then lads. B[/p][/quote]He has probably been brainwashed like so many other misguided individuals, our new Board probably haven't got the nous of NC, his approach dragged players in begging to be signed up on generous promises, that approach won't work anymore for us, as he was found out in the long run. Our approach now is to sell the Club as one that could be very good if given the chance to be so, but we want players that want to be here for the right reasons, not just as a stepping stone to better things. Getting the right players is a tall order and will take time, for us it is so much more difficult thanks to recent events, patience is essential, but time is running out, there may have to be some compromise while we rebuild. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

9:49am Sun 6 Jul 14

Bingo from Sholing says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Bingo from Sholing wrote:
Dave Brown wrote:
The manner in which the board placed the season tickets on sale early and then selling three English International players is I feel a total con trick played on the supporters who purchased their tickets.
I am sure Les Reed and the board knew they would be selling and raising funds to clear the debts.
Do not believe the funds raised to date will be re invested in quality players.
Once the club is totally debt free I feel we could see the For Sale signs go up outside St Marys offers in excess of £150 million a few players available to sell on.
Well done Dave Brown. I totally agree with you, and thank you for saying it. We have been hoodwinked. The Board saw an opportunity, not an opportunity for winning trophies or finishing higher in the league, but an opportunity to cash in on behalf of he owner.
Prove it with facts and I will go along with you.
Conversely if we await hard "facts", it will be all too late. We have to take the evidence as it comes, albeit circumstantial evidence. When the hard "facts" arrive we will be back in League 1, or worse. The circumstantial evidence is that the Board knew a long time ago that key players and a good manager wanted to leave, unless clear targets for Saints' future were set out. The new Chairman claimed that belt tightening was necessary and used the training facilities "over spend" as the prime reason for that, whilst carefully failing to acknowledge that the training facilities were a realisable fixed asset. The number of Board members was expanded as the blame could be spread. We are having several stories about coaches, and new players which I believe are there to placate the supporters. The hardest evidence of all is that we are about 6 weeks from the start of the season, and have not replaced key players. Even if we do sign good players they will not knit into place before the start of the season.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bingo from Sholing[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Brown[/bold] wrote: The manner in which the board placed the season tickets on sale early and then selling three English International players is I feel a total con trick played on the supporters who purchased their tickets. I am sure Les Reed and the board knew they would be selling and raising funds to clear the debts. Do not believe the funds raised to date will be re invested in quality players. Once the club is totally debt free I feel we could see the For Sale signs go up outside St Marys offers in excess of £150 million a few players available to sell on.[/p][/quote]Well done Dave Brown. I totally agree with you, and thank you for saying it. We have been hoodwinked. The Board saw an opportunity, not an opportunity for winning trophies or finishing higher in the league, but an opportunity to cash in on behalf of he owner.[/p][/quote]Prove it with facts and I will go along with you.[/p][/quote]Conversely if we await hard "facts", it will be all too late. We have to take the evidence as it comes, albeit circumstantial evidence. When the hard "facts" arrive we will be back in League 1, or worse. The circumstantial evidence is that the Board knew a long time ago that key players and a good manager wanted to leave, unless clear targets for Saints' future were set out. The new Chairman claimed that belt tightening was necessary and used the training facilities "over spend" as the prime reason for that, whilst carefully failing to acknowledge that the training facilities were a realisable fixed asset. The number of Board members was expanded as the blame could be spread. We are having several stories about coaches, and new players which I believe are there to placate the supporters. The hardest evidence of all is that we are about 6 weeks from the start of the season, and have not replaced key players. Even if we do sign good players they will not knit into place before the start of the season. Bingo from Sholing
  • Score: 5

9:51am Sun 6 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Apparently Morgan has said he is prepared to listen to what Ron and the club have to say before deciding his future. The outcome will tell us all we need to know, if he stays it's because we're pushing on.
Hopefully he was bluffing to get himself a better deal, hopefully we will give him an offer he cannot refuse. He is a player that we can build the rest of the team around. Fingers crossed.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Apparently Morgan has said he is prepared to listen to what Ron and the club have to say before deciding his future. The outcome will tell us all we need to know, if he stays it's because we're pushing on.[/p][/quote]Hopefully he was bluffing to get himself a better deal, hopefully we will give him an offer he cannot refuse. He is a player that we can build the rest of the team around. Fingers crossed. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

9:53am Sun 6 Jul 14

Rising_Son says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Dave Brown wrote:
Yes Ospreysaint,I have supported The Saints through thick and thin for the last sixty years and I have no interest in The Skates.
Then I suggest you at least try to support them when they need you most, that means keeping your negative thoughts to yourself, posting your hopes, keeping the faith and wait for the good times to return. Ignor the WUMs they will only confuse and corrupt your thinking process. Sorry if you think I am bullying but that is how I feel right now.
Why is there always some fool on every forum telling people how to support their club . WHAT A MORON !

Its a free country , and free speech is allowed . No doubt this same fool was one of the ones spouting the same nonsense when Lowe was in charge .
"Its a free country , and free speech is allowed ." So, why do you have a problem with his comments?
Exactly Rising,so why do you keep jumping on other peoples comments and nitpicking all the time?
Because he can, just as you have done, it's called free speech, don't you just love it?
Yes I do mate! I just demand the right to come on here and spout my drivel(and I spout a lot of it)without fear of being criticised for doing so.
(That'll put the thumbs up/thumbs downers in a quandary). ;0)
But freedom of speech includes the freedom to criticise.
No,it allows you the freedom to agree or disagree with the statement someone has made,not criticise them personally for saying it.
When have I criticised people personally? Find some examples.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Brown[/bold] wrote: Yes Ospreysaint,I have supported The Saints through thick and thin for the last sixty years and I have no interest in The Skates.[/p][/quote]Then I suggest you at least try to support them when they need you most, that means keeping your negative thoughts to yourself, posting your hopes, keeping the faith and wait for the good times to return. Ignor the WUMs they will only confuse and corrupt your thinking process. Sorry if you think I am bullying but that is how I feel right now.[/p][/quote]Why is there always some fool on every forum telling people how to support their club . WHAT A MORON ! Its a free country , and free speech is allowed . No doubt this same fool was one of the ones spouting the same nonsense when Lowe was in charge .[/p][/quote]"Its a free country , and free speech is allowed ." So, why do you have a problem with his comments?[/p][/quote]Exactly Rising,so why do you keep jumping on other peoples comments and nitpicking all the time?[/p][/quote]Because he can, just as you have done, it's called free speech, don't you just love it?[/p][/quote]Yes I do mate! I just demand the right to come on here and spout my drivel(and I spout a lot of it)without fear of being criticised for doing so. (That'll put the thumbs up/thumbs downers in a quandary). ;0)[/p][/quote]But freedom of speech includes the freedom to criticise.[/p][/quote]No,it allows you the freedom to agree or disagree with the statement someone has made,not criticise them personally for saying it.[/p][/quote]When have I criticised people personally? Find some examples. Rising_Son
  • Score: 0

9:57am Sun 6 Jul 14

Rising_Son says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Apparently Morgan has said he is prepared to listen to what Ron and the club have to say before deciding his future. The outcome will tell us all we need to know, if he stays it's because we're pushing on.
Hopefully he was bluffing to get himself a better deal, hopefully we will give him an offer he cannot refuse. He is a player that we can build the rest of the team around. Fingers crossed.
Of all the players that have have left or are reported to want out, he will be the most difficult to replace. I hope we can persuade him to stay.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Apparently Morgan has said he is prepared to listen to what Ron and the club have to say before deciding his future. The outcome will tell us all we need to know, if he stays it's because we're pushing on.[/p][/quote]Hopefully he was bluffing to get himself a better deal, hopefully we will give him an offer he cannot refuse. He is a player that we can build the rest of the team around. Fingers crossed.[/p][/quote]Of all the players that have have left or are reported to want out, he will be the most difficult to replace. I hope we can persuade him to stay. Rising_Son
  • Score: 0

9:58am Sun 6 Jul 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Dave Brown wrote:
Yes Ospreysaint,I have supported The Saints through thick and thin for the last sixty years and I have no interest in The Skates.
Then I suggest you at least try to support them when they need you most, that means keeping your negative thoughts to yourself, posting your hopes, keeping the faith and wait for the good times to return. Ignor the WUMs they will only confuse and corrupt your thinking process. Sorry if you think I am bullying but that is how I feel right now.
Why is there always some fool on every forum telling people how to support their club . WHAT A MORON !

Its a free country , and free speech is allowed . No doubt this same fool was one of the ones spouting the same nonsense when Lowe was in charge .
"Its a free country , and free speech is allowed ." So, why do you have a problem with his comments?
Exactly Rising,so why do you keep jumping on other peoples comments and nitpicking all the time?
Because he can, just as you have done, it's called free speech, don't you just love it?
Yes I do mate! I just demand the right to come on here and spout my drivel(and I spout a lot of it)without fear of being criticised for doing so.
(That'll put the thumbs up/thumbs downers in a quandary). ;0)
But freedom of speech includes the freedom to criticise.
No,it allows you the freedom to agree or disagree with the statement someone has made,not criticise them personally for saying it.
When have I criticised people personally? Find some examples.
You've just said you've got the right to criticise freedom of speech,the very premise of freedom of speech,doesn't allow that.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Brown[/bold] wrote: Yes Ospreysaint,I have supported The Saints through thick and thin for the last sixty years and I have no interest in The Skates.[/p][/quote]Then I suggest you at least try to support them when they need you most, that means keeping your negative thoughts to yourself, posting your hopes, keeping the faith and wait for the good times to return. Ignor the WUMs they will only confuse and corrupt your thinking process. Sorry if you think I am bullying but that is how I feel right now.[/p][/quote]Why is there always some fool on every forum telling people how to support their club . WHAT A MORON ! Its a free country , and free speech is allowed . No doubt this same fool was one of the ones spouting the same nonsense when Lowe was in charge .[/p][/quote]"Its a free country , and free speech is allowed ." So, why do you have a problem with his comments?[/p][/quote]Exactly Rising,so why do you keep jumping on other peoples comments and nitpicking all the time?[/p][/quote]Because he can, just as you have done, it's called free speech, don't you just love it?[/p][/quote]Yes I do mate! I just demand the right to come on here and spout my drivel(and I spout a lot of it)without fear of being criticised for doing so. (That'll put the thumbs up/thumbs downers in a quandary). ;0)[/p][/quote]But freedom of speech includes the freedom to criticise.[/p][/quote]No,it allows you the freedom to agree or disagree with the statement someone has made,not criticise them personally for saying it.[/p][/quote]When have I criticised people personally? Find some examples.[/p][/quote]You've just said you've got the right to criticise freedom of speech,the very premise of freedom of speech,doesn't allow that. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 0

9:58am Sun 6 Jul 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Apparently Morgan has said he is prepared to listen to what Ron and the club have to say before deciding his future. The outcome will tell us all we need to know, if he stays it's because we're pushing on.
Hopefully he was bluffing to get himself a better deal, hopefully we will give him an offer he cannot refuse. He is a player that we can build the rest of the team around. Fingers crossed.
I don't think the exodus was just about money, it was also ambition and he is prepared to listen to the new regime which the others weren't. If they fail to persuade him to stay then we should worry.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Apparently Morgan has said he is prepared to listen to what Ron and the club have to say before deciding his future. The outcome will tell us all we need to know, if he stays it's because we're pushing on.[/p][/quote]Hopefully he was bluffing to get himself a better deal, hopefully we will give him an offer he cannot refuse. He is a player that we can build the rest of the team around. Fingers crossed.[/p][/quote]I don't think the exodus was just about money, it was also ambition and he is prepared to listen to the new regime which the others weren't. If they fail to persuade him to stay then we should worry. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 5

10:01am Sun 6 Jul 14

Chipmonk1 says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Dave Brown wrote:
Yes Ospreysaint,I have supported The Saints through thick and thin for the last sixty years and I have no interest in The Skates.
Then I suggest you at least try to support them when they need you most, that means keeping your negative thoughts to yourself, posting your hopes, keeping the faith and wait for the good times to return. Ignor the WUMs they will only confuse and corrupt your thinking process. Sorry if you think I am bullying but that is how I feel right now.
Why is there always some fool on every forum telling people how to support their club . WHAT A MORON !

Its a free country , and free speech is allowed . No doubt this same fool was one of the ones spouting the same nonsense when Lowe was in charge .
"Its a free country , and free speech is allowed ." So, why do you have a problem with his comments?
Exactly Rising,so why do you keep jumping on other peoples comments and nitpicking all the time?
Because he can, just as you have done, it's called free speech, don't you just love it?
Yes I do mate! I just demand the right to come on here and spout my drivel(and I spout a lot of it)without fear of being criticised for doing so.
(That'll put the thumbs up/thumbs downers in a quandary). ;0)
But freedom of speech includes the freedom to criticise.
No,it allows you the freedom to agree or disagree with the statement someone has made,not criticise them personally for saying it.
This is getting really boring now. Can the echo provide a new thread please.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Brown[/bold] wrote: Yes Ospreysaint,I have supported The Saints through thick and thin for the last sixty years and I have no interest in The Skates.[/p][/quote]Then I suggest you at least try to support them when they need you most, that means keeping your negative thoughts to yourself, posting your hopes, keeping the faith and wait for the good times to return. Ignor the WUMs they will only confuse and corrupt your thinking process. Sorry if you think I am bullying but that is how I feel right now.[/p][/quote]Why is there always some fool on every forum telling people how to support their club . WHAT A MORON ! Its a free country , and free speech is allowed . No doubt this same fool was one of the ones spouting the same nonsense when Lowe was in charge .[/p][/quote]"Its a free country , and free speech is allowed ." So, why do you have a problem with his comments?[/p][/quote]Exactly Rising,so why do you keep jumping on other peoples comments and nitpicking all the time?[/p][/quote]Because he can, just as you have done, it's called free speech, don't you just love it?[/p][/quote]Yes I do mate! I just demand the right to come on here and spout my drivel(and I spout a lot of it)without fear of being criticised for doing so. (That'll put the thumbs up/thumbs downers in a quandary). ;0)[/p][/quote]But freedom of speech includes the freedom to criticise.[/p][/quote]No,it allows you the freedom to agree or disagree with the statement someone has made,not criticise them personally for saying it.[/p][/quote]This is getting really boring now. Can the echo provide a new thread please. Chipmonk1
  • Score: 4

10:06am Sun 6 Jul 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Chipmonk1 wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Dave Brown wrote:
Yes Ospreysaint,I have supported The Saints through thick and thin for the last sixty years and I have no interest in The Skates.
Then I suggest you at least try to support them when they need you most, that means keeping your negative thoughts to yourself, posting your hopes, keeping the faith and wait for the good times to return. Ignor the WUMs they will only confuse and corrupt your thinking process. Sorry if you think I am bullying but that is how I feel right now.
Why is there always some fool on every forum telling people how to support their club . WHAT A MORON !

Its a free country , and free speech is allowed . No doubt this same fool was one of the ones spouting the same nonsense when Lowe was in charge .
"Its a free country , and free speech is allowed ." So, why do you have a problem with his comments?
Exactly Rising,so why do you keep jumping on other peoples comments and nitpicking all the time?
Because he can, just as you have done, it's called free speech, don't you just love it?
Yes I do mate! I just demand the right to come on here and spout my drivel(and I spout a lot of it)without fear of being criticised for doing so.
(That'll put the thumbs up/thumbs downers in a quandary). ;0)
But freedom of speech includes the freedom to criticise.
No,it allows you the freedom to agree or disagree with the statement someone has made,not criticise them personally for saying it.
This is getting really boring now. Can the echo provide a new thread please.
Totally agree Chipmonk
[quote][p][bold]Chipmonk1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Brown[/bold] wrote: Yes Ospreysaint,I have supported The Saints through thick and thin for the last sixty years and I have no interest in The Skates.[/p][/quote]Then I suggest you at least try to support them when they need you most, that means keeping your negative thoughts to yourself, posting your hopes, keeping the faith and wait for the good times to return. Ignor the WUMs they will only confuse and corrupt your thinking process. Sorry if you think I am bullying but that is how I feel right now.[/p][/quote]Why is there always some fool on every forum telling people how to support their club . WHAT A MORON ! Its a free country , and free speech is allowed . No doubt this same fool was one of the ones spouting the same nonsense when Lowe was in charge .[/p][/quote]"Its a free country , and free speech is allowed ." So, why do you have a problem with his comments?[/p][/quote]Exactly Rising,so why do you keep jumping on other peoples comments and nitpicking all the time?[/p][/quote]Because he can, just as you have done, it's called free speech, don't you just love it?[/p][/quote]Yes I do mate! I just demand the right to come on here and spout my drivel(and I spout a lot of it)without fear of being criticised for doing so. (That'll put the thumbs up/thumbs downers in a quandary). ;0)[/p][/quote]But freedom of speech includes the freedom to criticise.[/p][/quote]No,it allows you the freedom to agree or disagree with the statement someone has made,not criticise them personally for saying it.[/p][/quote]This is getting really boring now. Can the echo provide a new thread please.[/p][/quote]Totally agree Chipmonk Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 1

10:13am Sun 6 Jul 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

There is no doubt there is no tolerance of opposing views on here. I've taken personal abuse because people don't like my concerns about this board and it's actions and in-actions since replacing Cortese. It doesn't both me, 30 years of business have provided me with a second skin, but I do know posters who don't post anymore because they didn't like the abuse. That cannot be democratic or freedom of speech, sometimes the quietest of voices are the ones most worth listening too.
There is no doubt there is no tolerance of opposing views on here. I've taken personal abuse because people don't like my concerns about this board and it's actions and in-actions since replacing Cortese. It doesn't both me, 30 years of business have provided me with a second skin, but I do know posters who don't post anymore because they didn't like the abuse. That cannot be democratic or freedom of speech, sometimes the quietest of voices are the ones most worth listening too. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 7

10:26am Sun 6 Jul 14

Sammy2sheds says...

jls217 wrote:
Looks like we can forget about Caulker too - there is gossip that he's signed for QPR - who knows with newspapers.
More good work from les
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: Looks like we can forget about Caulker too - there is gossip that he's signed for QPR - who knows with newspapers.[/p][/quote]More good work from les Sammy2sheds
  • Score: 1

10:29am Sun 6 Jul 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

Bingo from Sholing wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Bingo from Sholing wrote:
Dave Brown wrote:
The manner in which the board placed the season tickets on sale early and then selling three English International players is I feel a total con trick played on the supporters who purchased their tickets.
I am sure Les Reed and the board knew they would be selling and raising funds to clear the debts.
Do not believe the funds raised to date will be re invested in quality players.
Once the club is totally debt free I feel we could see the For Sale signs go up outside St Marys offers in excess of £150 million a few players available to sell on.
Well done Dave Brown. I totally agree with you, and thank you for saying it. We have been hoodwinked. The Board saw an opportunity, not an opportunity for winning trophies or finishing higher in the league, but an opportunity to cash in on behalf of he owner.
Prove it with facts and I will go along with you.
Conversely if we await hard "facts", it will be all too late. We have to take the evidence as it comes, albeit circumstantial evidence. When the hard "facts" arrive we will be back in League 1, or worse. The circumstantial evidence is that the Board knew a long time ago that key players and a good manager wanted to leave, unless clear targets for Saints' future were set out. The new Chairman claimed that belt tightening was necessary and used the training facilities "over spend" as the prime reason for that, whilst carefully failing to acknowledge that the training facilities were a realisable fixed asset. The number of Board members was expanded as the blame could be spread. We are having several stories about coaches, and new players which I believe are there to placate the supporters. The hardest evidence of all is that we are about 6 weeks from the start of the season, and have not replaced key players. Even if we do sign good players they will not knit into place before the start of the season.
but you are ignoring the single biggest piece of evidence out there.
we are luck enough to have a multi-billionaire owner! why do you think that she waited until we had a new manager to let these players be sold, I personally don't think it was her decision as she is a non-executive member of the board. if she was just interested in taking the money out of the club the players would all have been sold at the earliest opportunity, don't say they were trying to get more money for them because I`m pretty sure a multi-billionaire isn't interested in a couple of million here or there!
you could just as easily say the board was expanded because that how KL does business, NC was a one man board who, whilst the club was still in the ML trust, was actually his own boss and answerable to no one. KL wanted a proper board and he spat the dummy and quit!
yes the board probably has known for a while that certain players wanted out, they have never said otherwise. they also said no player would be sold (some people stop there) unless its in the interest of the club and unless the manager (MP) or new manager agreed. I dont think t had anything to do with `vision` or `clear targets`, do you think that these players thought that saints could challenge the top 4/6 in the prem in 1 or 2 year? of course not, it was just that the players have become full of themselves, a world cup call up and an 8th place finish and they think they are world class and too big for the club, so e board managed to screw manure and diverpooh for every last penny. they probably knew MP was of as well, though they offered him a very good package to stay, more wages and transfer funds than he has at spuds by all accounts. MP though saw us as a stepping stone and as soon as NC left he was gone as well. nothing the board could have done would have stopped them from going, yes they could have stopped the players by holding them to their contracts but that would have done more harm than good.
have the board ever mentioned the overspend on the training ground as a huge problem? its not as if this £30mill has to be paid in one lump sum, over half of that would have been budgeted for in the first place and the overspend will just be added to that budget.
so the coaches and possible new players are there just to `placate` the fans? so what do you suggest they do instead? go with the players we have and not bring in any new ones and have no coaches o manager?
so if they don't buy anyone they are `asset stripping` but if they do they are just `placating the fans`, that's a no win position for the club and an excuse to moan and groan either way!
yes there are several weeks until the new season and players will have a least some time to gel, liellana can be replaced by gaston shaw by chambers, clyne or young matt, which leaves just rickie and we are looking at new strikers as well as other targets for the other positions, so its not as bad as you say!
[quote][p][bold]Bingo from Sholing[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bingo from Sholing[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Brown[/bold] wrote: The manner in which the board placed the season tickets on sale early and then selling three English International players is I feel a total con trick played on the supporters who purchased their tickets. I am sure Les Reed and the board knew they would be selling and raising funds to clear the debts. Do not believe the funds raised to date will be re invested in quality players. Once the club is totally debt free I feel we could see the For Sale signs go up outside St Marys offers in excess of £150 million a few players available to sell on.[/p][/quote]Well done Dave Brown. I totally agree with you, and thank you for saying it. We have been hoodwinked. The Board saw an opportunity, not an opportunity for winning trophies or finishing higher in the league, but an opportunity to cash in on behalf of he owner.[/p][/quote]Prove it with facts and I will go along with you.[/p][/quote]Conversely if we await hard "facts", it will be all too late. We have to take the evidence as it comes, albeit circumstantial evidence. When the hard "facts" arrive we will be back in League 1, or worse. The circumstantial evidence is that the Board knew a long time ago that key players and a good manager wanted to leave, unless clear targets for Saints' future were set out. The new Chairman claimed that belt tightening was necessary and used the training facilities "over spend" as the prime reason for that, whilst carefully failing to acknowledge that the training facilities were a realisable fixed asset. The number of Board members was expanded as the blame could be spread. We are having several stories about coaches, and new players which I believe are there to placate the supporters. The hardest evidence of all is that we are about 6 weeks from the start of the season, and have not replaced key players. Even if we do sign good players they will not knit into place before the start of the season.[/p][/quote]but you are ignoring the single biggest piece of evidence out there. we are luck enough to have a multi-billionaire owner! why do you think that she waited until we had a new manager to let these players be sold, I personally don't think it was her decision as she is a non-executive member of the board. if she was just interested in taking the money out of the club the players would all have been sold at the earliest opportunity, don't say they were trying to get more money for them because I`m pretty sure a multi-billionaire isn't interested in a couple of million here or there! you could just as easily say the board was expanded because that how KL does business, NC was a one man board who, whilst the club was still in the ML trust, was actually his own boss and answerable to no one. KL wanted a proper board and he spat the dummy and quit! yes the board probably has known for a while that certain players wanted out, they have never said otherwise. they also said no player would be sold (some people stop there) unless its in the interest of the club and unless the manager (MP) or new manager agreed. I dont think t had anything to do with `vision` or `clear targets`, do you think that these players thought that saints could challenge the top 4/6 in the prem in 1 or 2 year? of course not, it was just that the players have become full of themselves, a world cup call up and an 8th place finish and they think they are world class and too big for the club, so e board managed to screw manure and diverpooh for every last penny. they probably knew MP was of as well, though they offered him a very good package to stay, more wages and transfer funds than he has at spuds by all accounts. MP though saw us as a stepping stone and as soon as NC left he was gone as well. nothing the board could have done would have stopped them from going, yes they could have stopped the players by holding them to their contracts but that would have done more harm than good. have the board ever mentioned the overspend on the training ground as a huge problem? its not as if this £30mill has to be paid in one lump sum, over half of that would have been budgeted for in the first place and the overspend will just be added to that budget. so the coaches and possible new players are there just to `placate` the fans? so what do you suggest they do instead? go with the players we have and not bring in any new ones and have no coaches o manager? so if they don't buy anyone they are `asset stripping` but if they do they are just `placating the fans`, that's a no win position for the club and an excuse to moan and groan either way! yes there are several weeks until the new season and players will have a least some time to gel, liellana can be replaced by gaston shaw by chambers, clyne or young matt, which leaves just rickie and we are looking at new strikers as well as other targets for the other positions, so its not as bad as you say! de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 6

10:31am Sun 6 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Dave Brown wrote:
Yes Ospreysaint,I have supported The Saints through thick and thin for the last sixty years and I have no interest in The Skates.
Then I suggest you at least try to support them when they need you most, that means keeping your negative thoughts to yourself, posting your hopes, keeping the faith and wait for the good times to return. Ignor the WUMs they will only confuse and corrupt your thinking process. Sorry if you think I am bullying but that is how I feel right now.
Why is there always some fool on every forum telling people how to support their club . WHAT A MORON !

Its a free country , and free speech is allowed . No doubt this same fool was one of the ones spouting the same nonsense when Lowe was in charge .
"Its a free country , and free speech is allowed ." So, why do you have a problem with his comments?
Exactly Rising,so why do you keep jumping on other peoples comments and nitpicking all the time?
Because he can, just as you have done, it's called free speech, don't you just love it?
Yes I do mate! I just demand the right to come on here and spout my drivel(and I spout a lot of it)without fear of being criticised for doing so.
(That'll put the thumbs up/thumbs downers in a quandary). ;0)
But freedom of speech includes the freedom to criticise.
No,it allows you the freedom to agree or disagree with the statement someone has made,not criticise them personally for saying it.
When have I criticised people personally? Find some examples.
You've just said you've got the right to criticise freedom of speech,the very premise of freedom of speech,doesn't allow that.
Confuscious couldn't have put that better himself.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Brown[/bold] wrote: Yes Ospreysaint,I have supported The Saints through thick and thin for the last sixty years and I have no interest in The Skates.[/p][/quote]Then I suggest you at least try to support them when they need you most, that means keeping your negative thoughts to yourself, posting your hopes, keeping the faith and wait for the good times to return. Ignor the WUMs they will only confuse and corrupt your thinking process. Sorry if you think I am bullying but that is how I feel right now.[/p][/quote]Why is there always some fool on every forum telling people how to support their club . WHAT A MORON ! Its a free country , and free speech is allowed . No doubt this same fool was one of the ones spouting the same nonsense when Lowe was in charge .[/p][/quote]"Its a free country , and free speech is allowed ." So, why do you have a problem with his comments?[/p][/quote]Exactly Rising,so why do you keep jumping on other peoples comments and nitpicking all the time?[/p][/quote]Because he can, just as you have done, it's called free speech, don't you just love it?[/p][/quote]Yes I do mate! I just demand the right to come on here and spout my drivel(and I spout a lot of it)without fear of being criticised for doing so. (That'll put the thumbs up/thumbs downers in a quandary). ;0)[/p][/quote]But freedom of speech includes the freedom to criticise.[/p][/quote]No,it allows you the freedom to agree or disagree with the statement someone has made,not criticise them personally for saying it.[/p][/quote]When have I criticised people personally? Find some examples.[/p][/quote]You've just said you've got the right to criticise freedom of speech,the very premise of freedom of speech,doesn't allow that.[/p][/quote]Confuscious couldn't have put that better himself. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

10:42am Sun 6 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
There is no doubt there is no tolerance of opposing views on here. I've taken personal abuse because people don't like my concerns about this board and it's actions and in-actions since replacing Cortese. It doesn't both me, 30 years of business have provided me with a second skin, but I do know posters who don't post anymore because they didn't like the abuse. That cannot be democratic or freedom of speech, sometimes the quietest of voices are the ones most worth listening too.
A couple of times I have been offended by what was said to and about myself, I counted to ten, thought words can upset me, but they can't hurt me, so I take the flak and move on, at least you are coming back to earth and have lost the angst, but your words have plenty of currency and should be respected, no reason to be on the end of abuse, we have been through a rocky patch and have come out of the other side, as I said earlier, in Norges words we have taken a hell of beating. I am hoping that the tide has turned for the better, but there is no instant cure. Negative posting is part and parcel about what we are all about, it has to be said, but it also has to be opposed where it is unjustified.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: There is no doubt there is no tolerance of opposing views on here. I've taken personal abuse because people don't like my concerns about this board and it's actions and in-actions since replacing Cortese. It doesn't both me, 30 years of business have provided me with a second skin, but I do know posters who don't post anymore because they didn't like the abuse. That cannot be democratic or freedom of speech, sometimes the quietest of voices are the ones most worth listening too.[/p][/quote]A couple of times I have been offended by what was said to and about myself, I counted to ten, thought words can upset me, but they can't hurt me, so I take the flak and move on, at least you are coming back to earth and have lost the angst, but your words have plenty of currency and should be respected, no reason to be on the end of abuse, we have been through a rocky patch and have come out of the other side, as I said earlier, in Norges words we have taken a hell of beating. I am hoping that the tide has turned for the better, but there is no instant cure. Negative posting is part and parcel about what we are all about, it has to be said, but it also has to be opposed where it is unjustified. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

10:47am Sun 6 Jul 14

long memory says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
Bingo from Sholing wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Bingo from Sholing wrote:
Dave Brown wrote:
The manner in which the board placed the season tickets on sale early and then selling three English International players is I feel a total con trick played on the supporters who purchased their tickets.
I am sure Les Reed and the board knew they would be selling and raising funds to clear the debts.
Do not believe the funds raised to date will be re invested in quality players.
Once the club is totally debt free I feel we could see the For Sale signs go up outside St Marys offers in excess of £150 million a few players available to sell on.
Well done Dave Brown. I totally agree with you, and thank you for saying it. We have been hoodwinked. The Board saw an opportunity, not an opportunity for winning trophies or finishing higher in the league, but an opportunity to cash in on behalf of he owner.
Prove it with facts and I will go along with you.
Conversely if we await hard "facts", it will be all too late. We have to take the evidence as it comes, albeit circumstantial evidence. When the hard "facts" arrive we will be back in League 1, or worse. The circumstantial evidence is that the Board knew a long time ago that key players and a good manager wanted to leave, unless clear targets for Saints' future were set out. The new Chairman claimed that belt tightening was necessary and used the training facilities "over spend" as the prime reason for that, whilst carefully failing to acknowledge that the training facilities were a realisable fixed asset. The number of Board members was expanded as the blame could be spread. We are having several stories about coaches, and new players which I believe are there to placate the supporters. The hardest evidence of all is that we are about 6 weeks from the start of the season, and have not replaced key players. Even if we do sign good players they will not knit into place before the start of the season.
but you are ignoring the single biggest piece of evidence out there.
we are luck enough to have a multi-billionaire owner! why do you think that she waited until we had a new manager to let these players be sold, I personally don't think it was her decision as she is a non-executive member of the board. if she was just interested in taking the money out of the club the players would all have been sold at the earliest opportunity, don't say they were trying to get more money for them because I`m pretty sure a multi-billionaire isn't interested in a couple of million here or there!
you could just as easily say the board was expanded because that how KL does business, NC was a one man board who, whilst the club was still in the ML trust, was actually his own boss and answerable to no one. KL wanted a proper board and he spat the dummy and quit!
yes the board probably has known for a while that certain players wanted out, they have never said otherwise. they also said no player would be sold (some people stop there) unless its in the interest of the club and unless the manager (MP) or new manager agreed. I dont think t had anything to do with `vision` or `clear targets`, do you think that these players thought that saints could challenge the top 4/6 in the prem in 1 or 2 year? of course not, it was just that the players have become full of themselves, a world cup call up and an 8th place finish and they think they are world class and too big for the club, so e board managed to screw manure and diverpooh for every last penny. they probably knew MP was of as well, though they offered him a very good package to stay, more wages and transfer funds than he has at spuds by all accounts. MP though saw us as a stepping stone and as soon as NC left he was gone as well. nothing the board could have done would have stopped them from going, yes they could have stopped the players by holding them to their contracts but that would have done more harm than good.
have the board ever mentioned the overspend on the training ground as a huge problem? its not as if this £30mill has to be paid in one lump sum, over half of that would have been budgeted for in the first place and the overspend will just be added to that budget.
so the coaches and possible new players are there just to `placate` the fans? so what do you suggest they do instead? go with the players we have and not bring in any new ones and have no coaches o manager?
so if they don't buy anyone they are `asset stripping` but if they do they are just `placating the fans`, that's a no win position for the club and an excuse to moan and groan either way!
yes there are several weeks until the new season and players will have a least some time to gel, liellana can be replaced by gaston shaw by chambers, clyne or young matt, which leaves just rickie and we are looking at new strikers as well as other targets for the other positions, so its not as bad as you say!
From my point of view,I think you are spot on.
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bingo from Sholing[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bingo from Sholing[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Brown[/bold] wrote: The manner in which the board placed the season tickets on sale early and then selling three English International players is I feel a total con trick played on the supporters who purchased their tickets. I am sure Les Reed and the board knew they would be selling and raising funds to clear the debts. Do not believe the funds raised to date will be re invested in quality players. Once the club is totally debt free I feel we could see the For Sale signs go up outside St Marys offers in excess of £150 million a few players available to sell on.[/p][/quote]Well done Dave Brown. I totally agree with you, and thank you for saying it. We have been hoodwinked. The Board saw an opportunity, not an opportunity for winning trophies or finishing higher in the league, but an opportunity to cash in on behalf of he owner.[/p][/quote]Prove it with facts and I will go along with you.[/p][/quote]Conversely if we await hard "facts", it will be all too late. We have to take the evidence as it comes, albeit circumstantial evidence. When the hard "facts" arrive we will be back in League 1, or worse. The circumstantial evidence is that the Board knew a long time ago that key players and a good manager wanted to leave, unless clear targets for Saints' future were set out. The new Chairman claimed that belt tightening was necessary and used the training facilities "over spend" as the prime reason for that, whilst carefully failing to acknowledge that the training facilities were a realisable fixed asset. The number of Board members was expanded as the blame could be spread. We are having several stories about coaches, and new players which I believe are there to placate the supporters. The hardest evidence of all is that we are about 6 weeks from the start of the season, and have not replaced key players. Even if we do sign good players they will not knit into place before the start of the season.[/p][/quote]but you are ignoring the single biggest piece of evidence out there. we are luck enough to have a multi-billionaire owner! why do you think that she waited until we had a new manager to let these players be sold, I personally don't think it was her decision as she is a non-executive member of the board. if she was just interested in taking the money out of the club the players would all have been sold at the earliest opportunity, don't say they were trying to get more money for them because I`m pretty sure a multi-billionaire isn't interested in a couple of million here or there! you could just as easily say the board was expanded because that how KL does business, NC was a one man board who, whilst the club was still in the ML trust, was actually his own boss and answerable to no one. KL wanted a proper board and he spat the dummy and quit! yes the board probably has known for a while that certain players wanted out, they have never said otherwise. they also said no player would be sold (some people stop there) unless its in the interest of the club and unless the manager (MP) or new manager agreed. I dont think t had anything to do with `vision` or `clear targets`, do you think that these players thought that saints could challenge the top 4/6 in the prem in 1 or 2 year? of course not, it was just that the players have become full of themselves, a world cup call up and an 8th place finish and they think they are world class and too big for the club, so e board managed to screw manure and diverpooh for every last penny. they probably knew MP was of as well, though they offered him a very good package to stay, more wages and transfer funds than he has at spuds by all accounts. MP though saw us as a stepping stone and as soon as NC left he was gone as well. nothing the board could have done would have stopped them from going, yes they could have stopped the players by holding them to their contracts but that would have done more harm than good. have the board ever mentioned the overspend on the training ground as a huge problem? its not as if this £30mill has to be paid in one lump sum, over half of that would have been budgeted for in the first place and the overspend will just be added to that budget. so the coaches and possible new players are there just to `placate` the fans? so what do you suggest they do instead? go with the players we have and not bring in any new ones and have no coaches o manager? so if they don't buy anyone they are `asset stripping` but if they do they are just `placating the fans`, that's a no win position for the club and an excuse to moan and groan either way! yes there are several weeks until the new season and players will have a least some time to gel, liellana can be replaced by gaston shaw by chambers, clyne or young matt, which leaves just rickie and we are looking at new strikers as well as other targets for the other positions, so its not as bad as you say![/p][/quote]From my point of view,I think you are spot on. long memory
  • Score: 0

10:51am Sun 6 Jul 14

dadofmy3sons says...

I have to admit to being a little confused.
On the OS the squad listed and Calum Chambers is in the first team squad as a midfielder.
We all know that most of last season he and Nat battled it out for rightback, and when he played for England he was in the team as centreback.
So what is his best and preferred position?
Is he another Jack Cork?
Sometimes versatility is good, other times it means a player doesn't "own" a position and that player can become a spare for whatever purpose.
We know we need a first choice left back, Targett will need to be blooded in.
Do we need an alternative right back too?
We need a centre back who is better than what we have, even if Lovren stays.
We definitely need a striker, maybe even three.
I would like to read what Koeman thinks of our current squad.
As Saints fans we all think we know our best line-up, problem is none of us actually agree.
Victor is a case to prove that, is he the best defensive midfielder, or Cork, or Spider? What position does JWP actually want to play?
How do we fit Harrison Reed in?
It is very well having loads of money to spend, we need to replace the lost players, but isn't that why we have an academy?
Do the players who remain think that they will now get the chance to shine?
I have to admit to being a little confused. On the OS the squad listed and Calum Chambers is in the first team squad as a midfielder. We all know that most of last season he and Nat battled it out for rightback, and when he played for England he was in the team as centreback. So what is his best and preferred position? Is he another Jack Cork? Sometimes versatility is good, other times it means a player doesn't "own" a position and that player can become a spare for whatever purpose. We know we need a first choice left back, Targett will need to be blooded in. Do we need an alternative right back too? We need a centre back who is better than what we have, even if Lovren stays. We definitely need a striker, maybe even three. I would like to read what Koeman thinks of our current squad. As Saints fans we all think we know our best line-up, problem is none of us actually agree. Victor is a case to prove that, is he the best defensive midfielder, or Cork, or Spider? What position does JWP actually want to play? How do we fit Harrison Reed in? It is very well having loads of money to spend, we need to replace the lost players, but isn't that why we have an academy? Do the players who remain think that they will now get the chance to shine? dadofmy3sons
  • Score: 1

10:53am Sun 6 Jul 14

NC Fan4Life says...

SodburySaint93 wrote:
Picked up a couple of snippets in the on-line press this morning.

1) Hernandez at man u did'nt want to come to Saints as he felt it too much a step down (really - one place in the league !!!) - okay man u are a bigger club but Hernandez ain't RVP is he.

2) Morgan suggests that money spent wisely from transfer kitty may keep him at the club - he probably wants to know who he will be playing with next season the same as us fans. If there is no major intent for proven players coming in, then I think he will see it as lack of ambition and be off.

Just my thoughts
This is why we should have bought a couple before selling as potential players will be put off coming to a club that is selling all its best players.

So not surprising Hernandez has been put off.

It may also be a problem with Tadic & Pelle ?

It is also Lovren opinion and Morgan has clearly expressed it very well.

We now need at least 6 TOP QUALITY players not mediocre ones to arrive quickly to replace the 3 that have gone and at least 3 to improve the squad. Otherwise why would Morgan want to stay ?
[quote][p][bold]SodburySaint93[/bold] wrote: Picked up a couple of snippets in the on-line press this morning. 1) Hernandez at man u did'nt want to come to Saints as he felt it too much a step down (really - one place in the league !!!) - okay man u are a bigger club but Hernandez ain't RVP is he. 2) Morgan suggests that money spent wisely from transfer kitty may keep him at the club - he probably wants to know who he will be playing with next season the same as us fans. If there is no major intent for proven players coming in, then I think he will see it as lack of ambition and be off. Just my thoughts[/p][/quote]This is why we should have bought a couple before selling as potential players will be put off coming to a club that is selling all its best players. So not surprising Hernandez has been put off. It may also be a problem with Tadic & Pelle ? It is also Lovren opinion and Morgan has clearly expressed it very well. We now need at least 6 TOP QUALITY players not mediocre ones to arrive quickly to replace the 3 that have gone and at least 3 to improve the squad. Otherwise why would Morgan want to stay ? NC Fan4Life
  • Score: 1

10:55am Sun 6 Jul 14

Beer Monster says...

deepheat wrote:
Littleton-Saint wrote:
deepheat wrote:
Players that are worth a look;-

Will Hughes - Derby
Danny Ings - Burnley
Ross McCormack - Leeds
Buy these players and we'll have a Championship side - we can do better.
Under Nigel Adkins we got promoted to the Premier league with a Championship side and have just sold them for millions.

Who would you spend those millions on?
Where's Alices Dad when you need him?
[quote][p][bold]deepheat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]deepheat[/bold] wrote: Players that are worth a look;- Will Hughes - Derby Danny Ings - Burnley Ross McCormack - Leeds[/p][/quote]Buy these players and we'll have a Championship side - we can do better.[/p][/quote]Under Nigel Adkins we got promoted to the Premier league with a Championship side and have just sold them for millions. Who would you spend those millions on?[/p][/quote]Where's Alices Dad when you need him? Beer Monster
  • Score: 0

10:58am Sun 6 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Bingo from Sholing wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Bingo from Sholing wrote:
Dave Brown wrote:
The manner in which the board placed the season tickets on sale early and then selling three English International players is I feel a total con trick played on the supporters who purchased their tickets.
I am sure Les Reed and the board knew they would be selling and raising funds to clear the debts.
Do not believe the funds raised to date will be re invested in quality players.
Once the club is totally debt free I feel we could see the For Sale signs go up outside St Marys offers in excess of £150 million a few players available to sell on.
Well done Dave Brown. I totally agree with you, and thank you for saying it. We have been hoodwinked. The Board saw an opportunity, not an opportunity for winning trophies or finishing higher in the league, but an opportunity to cash in on behalf of he owner.
Prove it with facts and I will go along with you.
Conversely if we await hard "facts", it will be all too late. We have to take the evidence as it comes, albeit circumstantial evidence. When the hard "facts" arrive we will be back in League 1, or worse. The circumstantial evidence is that the Board knew a long time ago that key players and a good manager wanted to leave, unless clear targets for Saints' future were set out. The new Chairman claimed that belt tightening was necessary and used the training facilities "over spend" as the prime reason for that, whilst carefully failing to acknowledge that the training facilities were a realisable fixed asset. The number of Board members was expanded as the blame could be spread. We are having several stories about coaches, and new players which I believe are there to placate the supporters. The hardest evidence of all is that we are about 6 weeks from the start of the season, and have not replaced key players. Even if we do sign good players they will not knit into place before the start of the season.
That's not much help, as you say circumstantial evidence, not hard fact in any of the speculation. The new Chairman came in said it as he saw it, I suspect the Club were a bit naive about the Players wanting out, there was never any doubt that Poch was going, he should have gone when NC left. There was very little they could do about it, short of some acrimonious litigation which would have done more harm than good, the situation says more about the rot in the Premier League rather than the shortcomings of a new Board. I am putting my trust and support into the Board, (as I have no other choice), to bring in enough quality to shore things up, before consolidating the way to the Champions League that we strive for. I am a happy clapper and not ashamed to say so.
[quote][p][bold]Bingo from Sholing[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bingo from Sholing[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Brown[/bold] wrote: The manner in which the board placed the season tickets on sale early and then selling three English International players is I feel a total con trick played on the supporters who purchased their tickets. I am sure Les Reed and the board knew they would be selling and raising funds to clear the debts. Do not believe the funds raised to date will be re invested in quality players. Once the club is totally debt free I feel we could see the For Sale signs go up outside St Marys offers in excess of £150 million a few players available to sell on.[/p][/quote]Well done Dave Brown. I totally agree with you, and thank you for saying it. We have been hoodwinked. The Board saw an opportunity, not an opportunity for winning trophies or finishing higher in the league, but an opportunity to cash in on behalf of he owner.[/p][/quote]Prove it with facts and I will go along with you.[/p][/quote]Conversely if we await hard "facts", it will be all too late. We have to take the evidence as it comes, albeit circumstantial evidence. When the hard "facts" arrive we will be back in League 1, or worse. The circumstantial evidence is that the Board knew a long time ago that key players and a good manager wanted to leave, unless clear targets for Saints' future were set out. The new Chairman claimed that belt tightening was necessary and used the training facilities "over spend" as the prime reason for that, whilst carefully failing to acknowledge that the training facilities were a realisable fixed asset. The number of Board members was expanded as the blame could be spread. We are having several stories about coaches, and new players which I believe are there to placate the supporters. The hardest evidence of all is that we are about 6 weeks from the start of the season, and have not replaced key players. Even if we do sign good players they will not knit into place before the start of the season.[/p][/quote]That's not much help, as you say circumstantial evidence, not hard fact in any of the speculation. The new Chairman came in said it as he saw it, I suspect the Club were a bit naive about the Players wanting out, there was never any doubt that Poch was going, he should have gone when NC left. There was very little they could do about it, short of some acrimonious litigation which would have done more harm than good, the situation says more about the rot in the Premier League rather than the shortcomings of a new Board. I am putting my trust and support into the Board, (as I have no other choice), to bring in enough quality to shore things up, before consolidating the way to the Champions League that we strive for. I am a happy clapper and not ashamed to say so. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 1

11:00am Sun 6 Jul 14

Rising_Son says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Dave Brown wrote:
Yes Ospreysaint,I have supported The Saints through thick and thin for the last sixty years and I have no interest in The Skates.
Then I suggest you at least try to support them when they need you most, that means keeping your negative thoughts to yourself, posting your hopes, keeping the faith and wait for the good times to return. Ignor the WUMs they will only confuse and corrupt your thinking process. Sorry if you think I am bullying but that is how I feel right now.
Why is there always some fool on every forum telling people how to support their club . WHAT A MORON !

Its a free country , and free speech is allowed . No doubt this same fool was one of the ones spouting the same nonsense when Lowe was in charge .
"Its a free country , and free speech is allowed ." So, why do you have a problem with his comments?
Exactly Rising,so why do you keep jumping on other peoples comments and nitpicking all the time?
Because he can, just as you have done, it's called free speech, don't you just love it?
Yes I do mate! I just demand the right to come on here and spout my drivel(and I spout a lot of it)without fear of being criticised for doing so.
(That'll put the thumbs up/thumbs downers in a quandary). ;0)
But freedom of speech includes the freedom to criticise.
No,it allows you the freedom to agree or disagree with the statement someone has made,not criticise them personally for saying it.
When have I criticised people personally? Find some examples.
You've just said you've got the right to criticise freedom of speech,the very premise of freedom of speech,doesn't allow that.
Doesn't it? That'll be news to people who believe in free speech?

I notice you haven't presented evidence of me criticising people personally. Why is that?
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Brown[/bold] wrote: Yes Ospreysaint,I have supported The Saints through thick and thin for the last sixty years and I have no interest in The Skates.[/p][/quote]Then I suggest you at least try to support them when they need you most, that means keeping your negative thoughts to yourself, posting your hopes, keeping the faith and wait for the good times to return. Ignor the WUMs they will only confuse and corrupt your thinking process. Sorry if you think I am bullying but that is how I feel right now.[/p][/quote]Why is there always some fool on every forum telling people how to support their club . WHAT A MORON ! Its a free country , and free speech is allowed . No doubt this same fool was one of the ones spouting the same nonsense when Lowe was in charge .[/p][/quote]"Its a free country , and free speech is allowed ." So, why do you have a problem with his comments?[/p][/quote]Exactly Rising,so why do you keep jumping on other peoples comments and nitpicking all the time?[/p][/quote]Because he can, just as you have done, it's called free speech, don't you just love it?[/p][/quote]Yes I do mate! I just demand the right to come on here and spout my drivel(and I spout a lot of it)without fear of being criticised for doing so. (That'll put the thumbs up/thumbs downers in a quandary). ;0)[/p][/quote]But freedom of speech includes the freedom to criticise.[/p][/quote]No,it allows you the freedom to agree or disagree with the statement someone has made,not criticise them personally for saying it.[/p][/quote]When have I criticised people personally? Find some examples.[/p][/quote]You've just said you've got the right to criticise freedom of speech,the very premise of freedom of speech,doesn't allow that.[/p][/quote]Doesn't it? That'll be news to people who believe in free speech? I notice you haven't presented evidence of me criticising people personally. Why is that? Rising_Son
  • Score: -2

11:01am Sun 6 Jul 14

damoose says...

Full Lovren interview ....

Liverpool sent the offer and the club haven’t informed m. Not even about the subsequent Liverpool bids. That wasn’t right. I found out about the bid from other people which disappointed me and I realised I’ve got no business staying at Southampton.
Liverpool sent a 20 million offer and they paid nine million for me, so they would’ve earned twice the amount.
At this point, I don’t know what I’ll do and I don’t like it. It was unbelievable that a few days ago I had an offer of 20 million pounds. It was in the morning and by the afternoon the club had said I was not for sale. Frankly, my head is already at Liverpool.
Honestly, I don’t know who the main man at the club is anymore. They are now looking for 25 million pounds, but I don’t think they’ll get it.
Liverpool is one of the biggest clubs in the world. Only Real Madrid have as many fans around the world. The last time I played at Anfield, I got chills when I heard ‘You’ll Never Walk Alone.’ I would like to listen to it all the time.
Look, I’d gladly stay in Southampton if the club had any ambitions, if they kept the key players. not even the Liverpool bid would have dissuaded me.
When I decided to go to Southampton, many people were surprised, but I went because the people at the club had great ambition. They gave me assurances about the project — the former chairman, Nicola Cortese, and the former coach, Mauricio Pochettino, convinced me. They gave me incredible confidence.
When I began training there, I realised they had a very good team. They promised to buy two more players — they bought Osvaldo and Wanyama. They are great players. The aim was to qualify for Europe, to get into the Europa League at least.
No one knew who would take over the club. Suspicions were raised. I asked Mauricio what was happening and he couldn’t say whether or not he would stay on or make promises for the next five or six years about investment in the club, challenging for the Champions League, making new signings or keeping key players.
It was because of that I’d agreed to sign for Southampton. When the chairman left, and Pochettino was going too as early as April, I realised things had fallen apart.
Full Lovren interview .... Liverpool sent the offer and the club haven’t informed m. Not even about the subsequent Liverpool bids. That wasn’t right. I found out about the bid from other people which disappointed me and I realised I’ve got no business staying at Southampton. Liverpool sent a 20 million offer and they [Southampton] paid nine million for me, so they would’ve earned twice the amount. At this point, I don’t know what I’ll do and I don’t like it. It was unbelievable that a few days ago I had an offer of 20 million pounds. It was in the morning and by the afternoon the club had said I was not for sale. Frankly, my head is already at Liverpool. Honestly, I don’t know who the main man at the club is anymore. They are now looking for 25 million pounds, but I don’t think they’ll get it. Liverpool is one of the biggest clubs in the world. Only Real Madrid have as many fans around the world. The last time I played at Anfield, I got chills when I heard ‘You’ll Never Walk Alone.’ I would like to listen to it all the time. Look, I’d gladly stay in Southampton if the club had any ambitions, if they kept the key players. [If that had happened] not even the Liverpool bid would have dissuaded me. When I decided to go to Southampton, many people were surprised, but I went because the people at the club had great ambition. They gave me assurances about the project — the former chairman, Nicola Cortese, and the former coach, Mauricio Pochettino, convinced me. They gave me incredible confidence. When I began training there, I realised they had a very good team. They promised to buy two more players — they bought [Pablo Daniel] Osvaldo and [Victor] Wanyama. They are great players. The aim was to qualify for Europe, to get into the Europa League at least. No one knew who would take over the club. Suspicions were raised. I asked Mauricio what was happening and he couldn’t say whether or not he would stay on or make promises for the next five or six years about investment in the club, challenging for the Champions League, making new signings or keeping key players. It was because of that I’d agreed to sign for Southampton. When the chairman left, and Pochettino was going too as early as April, I realised things had fallen apart. damoose
  • Score: 0

11:02am Sun 6 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

NC Fan4Life wrote:
SodburySaint93 wrote:
Picked up a couple of snippets in the on-line press this morning.

1) Hernandez at man u did'nt want to come to Saints as he felt it too much a step down (really - one place in the league !!!) - okay man u are a bigger club but Hernandez ain't RVP is he.

2) Morgan suggests that money spent wisely from transfer kitty may keep him at the club - he probably wants to know who he will be playing with next season the same as us fans. If there is no major intent for proven players coming in, then I think he will see it as lack of ambition and be off.

Just my thoughts
This is why we should have bought a couple before selling as potential players will be put off coming to a club that is selling all its best players.

So not surprising Hernandez has been put off.

It may also be a problem with Tadic & Pelle ?

It is also Lovren opinion and Morgan has clearly expressed it very well.

We now need at least 6 TOP QUALITY players not mediocre ones to arrive quickly to replace the 3 that have gone and at least 3 to improve the squad. Otherwise why would Morgan want to stay ?
True, easier said than done, our situation is undoubtedly perilous, there appear to be evil entities out there that are fouling our patch, what is the cure, I have no idea.
[quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SodburySaint93[/bold] wrote: Picked up a couple of snippets in the on-line press this morning. 1) Hernandez at man u did'nt want to come to Saints as he felt it too much a step down (really - one place in the league !!!) - okay man u are a bigger club but Hernandez ain't RVP is he. 2) Morgan suggests that money spent wisely from transfer kitty may keep him at the club - he probably wants to know who he will be playing with next season the same as us fans. If there is no major intent for proven players coming in, then I think he will see it as lack of ambition and be off. Just my thoughts[/p][/quote]This is why we should have bought a couple before selling as potential players will be put off coming to a club that is selling all its best players. So not surprising Hernandez has been put off. It may also be a problem with Tadic & Pelle ? It is also Lovren opinion and Morgan has clearly expressed it very well. We now need at least 6 TOP QUALITY players not mediocre ones to arrive quickly to replace the 3 that have gone and at least 3 to improve the squad. Otherwise why would Morgan want to stay ?[/p][/quote]True, easier said than done, our situation is undoubtedly perilous, there appear to be evil entities out there that are fouling our patch, what is the cure, I have no idea. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

11:07am Sun 6 Jul 14

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

damoose wrote:
Full Lovren interview ....

Liverpool sent the offer and the club haven’t informed m. Not even about the subsequent Liverpool bids. That wasn’t right. I found out about the bid from other people which disappointed me and I realised I’ve got no business staying at Southampton.
Liverpool sent a 20 million offer and they paid nine million for me, so they would’ve earned twice the amount.
At this point, I don’t know what I’ll do and I don’t like it. It was unbelievable that a few days ago I had an offer of 20 million pounds. It was in the morning and by the afternoon the club had said I was not for sale. Frankly, my head is already at Liverpool.
Honestly, I don’t know who the main man at the club is anymore. They are now looking for 25 million pounds, but I don’t think they’ll get it.
Liverpool is one of the biggest clubs in the world. Only Real Madrid have as many fans around the world. The last time I played at Anfield, I got chills when I heard ‘You’ll Never Walk Alone.’ I would like to listen to it all the time.
Look, I’d gladly stay in Southampton if the club had any ambitions, if they kept the key players. not even the Liverpool bid would have dissuaded me.
When I decided to go to Southampton, many people were surprised, but I went because the people at the club had great ambition. They gave me assurances about the project — the former chairman, Nicola Cortese, and the former coach, Mauricio Pochettino, convinced me. They gave me incredible confidence.
When I began training there, I realised they had a very good team. They promised to buy two more players — they bought Osvaldo and Wanyama. They are great players. The aim was to qualify for Europe, to get into the Europa League at least.
No one knew who would take over the club. Suspicions were raised. I asked Mauricio what was happening and he couldn’t say whether or not he would stay on or make promises for the next five or six years about investment in the club, challenging for the Champions League, making new signings or keeping key players.
It was because of that I’d agreed to sign for Southampton. When the chairman left, and Pochettino was going too as early as April, I realised things had fallen apart.
If this is genuine it is EXACTLY what I have been saying.
[quote][p][bold]damoose[/bold] wrote: Full Lovren interview .... Liverpool sent the offer and the club haven’t informed m. Not even about the subsequent Liverpool bids. That wasn’t right. I found out about the bid from other people which disappointed me and I realised I’ve got no business staying at Southampton. Liverpool sent a 20 million offer and they [Southampton] paid nine million for me, so they would’ve earned twice the amount. At this point, I don’t know what I’ll do and I don’t like it. It was unbelievable that a few days ago I had an offer of 20 million pounds. It was in the morning and by the afternoon the club had said I was not for sale. Frankly, my head is already at Liverpool. Honestly, I don’t know who the main man at the club is anymore. They are now looking for 25 million pounds, but I don’t think they’ll get it. Liverpool is one of the biggest clubs in the world. Only Real Madrid have as many fans around the world. The last time I played at Anfield, I got chills when I heard ‘You’ll Never Walk Alone.’ I would like to listen to it all the time. Look, I’d gladly stay in Southampton if the club had any ambitions, if they kept the key players. [If that had happened] not even the Liverpool bid would have dissuaded me. When I decided to go to Southampton, many people were surprised, but I went because the people at the club had great ambition. They gave me assurances about the project — the former chairman, Nicola Cortese, and the former coach, Mauricio Pochettino, convinced me. They gave me incredible confidence. When I began training there, I realised they had a very good team. They promised to buy two more players — they bought [Pablo Daniel] Osvaldo and [Victor] Wanyama. They are great players. The aim was to qualify for Europe, to get into the Europa League at least. No one knew who would take over the club. Suspicions were raised. I asked Mauricio what was happening and he couldn’t say whether or not he would stay on or make promises for the next five or six years about investment in the club, challenging for the Champions League, making new signings or keeping key players. It was because of that I’d agreed to sign for Southampton. When the chairman left, and Pochettino was going too as early as April, I realised things had fallen apart.[/p][/quote]If this is genuine it is EXACTLY what I have been saying. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
  • Score: 4

11:09am Sun 6 Jul 14

The Rise of The Foot Soldier. says...

NC Fan4Life wrote:
SodburySaint93 wrote: Picked up a couple of snippets in the on-line press this morning. 1) Hernandez at man u did'nt want to come to Saints as he felt it too much a step down (really - one place in the league !!!) - okay man u are a bigger club but Hernandez ain't RVP is he. 2) Morgan suggests that money spent wisely from transfer kitty may keep him at the club - he probably wants to know who he will be playing with next season the same as us fans. If there is no major intent for proven players coming in, then I think he will see it as lack of ambition and be off. Just my thoughts
This is why we should have bought a couple before selling as potential players will be put off coming to a club that is selling all its best players. So not surprising Hernandez has been put off. It may also be a problem with Tadic & Pelle ? It is also Lovren opinion and Morgan has clearly expressed it very well. We now need at least 6 TOP QUALITY players not mediocre ones to arrive quickly to replace the 3 that have gone and at least 3 to improve the squad. Otherwise why would Morgan want to stay ?
DEFENCE is one of the BIG ISSUES.

Solution: BUY TOP KEEPER + KEEP LOV + CB (like Caulker)

KEEP Spiderman (£20 Million) + Lovren (£30 Million)

everton are known for not having a lot of flair - but are HARD TO BEAT.

Last Season we dominated possession - but because JUDAS (MP) did not and would not invest in Striker and Keeper - we under achieved in the potential League Points Total and FA Cup ....... and engineered to finish below Spuds .....

SFC HALL OF SHAME + BOOTED OUT OF SOUTHAMPTON.

lambert + shaw + bighead lala
[quote][p][bold]NC Fan4Life[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SodburySaint93[/bold] wrote: Picked up a couple of snippets in the on-line press this morning. 1) Hernandez at man u did'nt want to come to Saints as he felt it too much a step down (really - one place in the league !!!) - okay man u are a bigger club but Hernandez ain't RVP is he. 2) Morgan suggests that money spent wisely from transfer kitty may keep him at the club - he probably wants to know who he will be playing with next season the same as us fans. If there is no major intent for proven players coming in, then I think he will see it as lack of ambition and be off. Just my thoughts[/p][/quote]This is why we should have bought a couple before selling as potential players will be put off coming to a club that is selling all its best players. So not surprising Hernandez has been put off. It may also be a problem with Tadic & Pelle ? It is also Lovren opinion and Morgan has clearly expressed it very well. We now need at least 6 TOP QUALITY players not mediocre ones to arrive quickly to replace the 3 that have gone and at least 3 to improve the squad. Otherwise why would Morgan want to stay ?[/p][/quote]DEFENCE is one of the BIG ISSUES. Solution: BUY TOP KEEPER + KEEP LOV + CB (like Caulker) KEEP Spiderman (£20 Million) + Lovren (£30 Million) everton are known for not having a lot of flair - but are HARD TO BEAT. Last Season we dominated possession - but because JUDAS (MP) did not and would not invest in Striker and Keeper - we under achieved in the potential League Points Total and FA Cup ....... and engineered to finish below Spuds ..... SFC HALL OF SHAME + BOOTED OUT OF SOUTHAMPTON. lambert + shaw + bighead lala The Rise of The Foot Soldier.
  • Score: -1

11:12am Sun 6 Jul 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
There is no doubt there is no tolerance of opposing views on here. I've taken personal abuse because people don't like my concerns about this board and it's actions and in-actions since replacing Cortese. It doesn't both me, 30 years of business have provided me with a second skin, but I do know posters who don't post anymore because they didn't like the abuse. That cannot be democratic or freedom of speech, sometimes the quietest of voices are the ones most worth listening too.
seed as you know I wholeheartedly disagree with you opinions regarding this `vision` excuse and even about the new sponsor. I do hope though that I have been able to debate these differences with you in an adult fashion. I understand some of your concerns and I think we are all a bit concerned with what has transpired over the summer. i am of course very annoyed that the players that have been sold are gone, i though believe that this is down to the players and not the board. its quite clear that MP was going to leave no matter what the board offered him, don't forget he had said that without NC he couldn't see a future for him here. i honestly now believe that his heart wasn't in it after NC left. whenever questioned about his future he only ever said that he had a contract to honour, we all thought that meant he would stay for another year. i think he was only ever commenting about the `fine` he would have to pay if he quit, he didn't want to pay that himself so waited for a club to come in and pay it for him, spuds were his unlucky victims. i know what jesus told you but as others have said he knows you are a fan and might just be trying to make it look better for himself and MP, i did read somewhere that some of MP`s staff were unhappy at him for quitting but decided to leave because they might not keep their jobs here when a new boss came in.
as i said we differ on these points but i hope that i have debated with you in a proper manner. as for others i will treat them with the respect or contempt they deserve individually.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: There is no doubt there is no tolerance of opposing views on here. I've taken personal abuse because people don't like my concerns about this board and it's actions and in-actions since replacing Cortese. It doesn't both me, 30 years of business have provided me with a second skin, but I do know posters who don't post anymore because they didn't like the abuse. That cannot be democratic or freedom of speech, sometimes the quietest of voices are the ones most worth listening too.[/p][/quote]seed as you know I wholeheartedly disagree with you opinions regarding this `vision` excuse and even about the new sponsor. I do hope though that I have been able to debate these differences with you in an adult fashion. I understand some of your concerns and I think we are all a bit concerned with what has transpired over the summer. i am of course very annoyed that the players that have been sold are gone, i though believe that this is down to the players and not the board. its quite clear that MP was going to leave no matter what the board offered him, don't forget he had said that without NC he couldn't see a future for him here. i honestly now believe that his heart wasn't in it after NC left. whenever questioned about his future he only ever said that he had a contract to honour, we all thought that meant he would stay for another year. i think he was only ever commenting about the `fine` he would have to pay if he quit, he didn't want to pay that himself so waited for a club to come in and pay it for him, spuds were his unlucky victims. i know what jesus told you but as others have said he knows you are a fan and might just be trying to make it look better for himself and MP, i did read somewhere that some of MP`s staff were unhappy at him for quitting but decided to leave because they might not keep their jobs here when a new boss came in. as i said we differ on these points but i hope that i have debated with you in a proper manner. as for others i will treat them with the respect or contempt they deserve individually. de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 3

11:17am Sun 6 Jul 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Beer Monster wrote:
deepheat wrote:
Littleton-Saint wrote:
deepheat wrote:
Players that are worth a look;-

Will Hughes - Derby
Danny Ings - Burnley
Ross McCormack - Leeds
Buy these players and we'll have a Championship side - we can do better.
Under Nigel Adkins we got promoted to the Premier league with a Championship side and have just sold them for millions.

Who would you spend those millions on?
Where's Alices Dad when you need him?
He's walking Alicescat's dog. They really are a strange bunch in Alicescatsdogsdad's house :-)
[quote][p][bold]Beer Monster[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]deepheat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Littleton-Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]deepheat[/bold] wrote: Players that are worth a look;- Will Hughes - Derby Danny Ings - Burnley Ross McCormack - Leeds[/p][/quote]Buy these players and we'll have a Championship side - we can do better.[/p][/quote]Under Nigel Adkins we got promoted to the Premier league with a Championship side and have just sold them for millions. Who would you spend those millions on?[/p][/quote]Where's Alices Dad when you need him?[/p][/quote]He's walking Alicescat's dog. They really are a strange bunch in Alicescatsdogsdad's house :-) Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 1

11:23am Sun 6 Jul 14

damoose says...

@Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

If this is genuine it is EXACTLY what I have been saying.

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@Seedhouse the Unrepentant says... If this is genuine it is EXACTLY what I have been saying. -------------------- http://m.101greatgoa ls.com/blog/dejan-lo vren-public-slates-s outhampton-confirms- liverpool-had-a-20m- offer-rejected-sport ske-novosti/ damoose
  • Score: 2

11:25am Sun 6 Jul 14

dadofmy3sons says...

Lovren statement.

"It was because of that I’d agreed to sign for Southampton. When the chairman left, and Pochettino was going too as early as April, I realised things had fallen apart."

Not sure he should have said that, he may just have opened up a can of worms that the club didn't want to be known.
Perhaps we are getting closer to the truth of how the club is being ripped apart.
My opinion is that Cortese has systematically orchestrated the unrest.
He was in charge of everything and had total control of the club. He did well but if I was an owner I would not want someone like him spending my money without being able to have an input. Obviously we will never know why and how the split happened, but it is very clear that his leaving was the catalyst for all the subsequent departures.
We now need someone to take the helm and make the kind of statement that will convince all of us that our club is back on track.
Perhaps Lovren should feel pleased that his club values him that highly.
Lovren statement. "It was because of that I’d agreed to sign for Southampton. When the chairman left, and Pochettino was going too as early as April, I realised things had fallen apart." Not sure he should have said that, he may just have opened up a can of worms that the club didn't want to be known. Perhaps we are getting closer to the truth of how the club is being ripped apart. My opinion is that Cortese has systematically orchestrated the unrest. He was in charge of everything and had total control of the club. He did well but if I was an owner I would not want someone like him spending my money without being able to have an input. Obviously we will never know why and how the split happened, but it is very clear that his leaving was the catalyst for all the subsequent departures. We now need someone to take the helm and make the kind of statement that will convince all of us that our club is back on track. Perhaps Lovren should feel pleased that his club values him that highly. dadofmy3sons
  • Score: 3

11:26am Sun 6 Jul 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
Apparently Morgan has said he is prepared to listen to what Ron and the club have to say before deciding his future. The outcome will tell us all we need to know, if he stays it's because we're pushing on.
Hopefully he was bluffing to get himself a better deal, hopefully we will give him an offer he cannot refuse. He is a player that we can build the rest of the team around. Fingers crossed.
I don't think the exodus was just about money, it was also ambition and he is prepared to listen to the new regime which the others weren't. If they fail to persuade him to stay then we should worry.
My reading of Morgan is a bit different. I hope I am wrong but, alas, I think he will leave and, as you say, it'll be about his career not the money. He's served us well and deserves our respect and thanks. However, there's little doubt in my mind that Didier Dechamps has told him that to be part of the next 2-year French project to win the Euros on home turf, he will have to be playing in Europe for a club he has bothered to take notice of during his career. He can't be sure of that with us. Least we forget, Dechamps developed at a decent FC Nantes but jumped ship for Marseille, then Juva and then Chelsea.

As I said, I so hope I'm wrong and he stays but that's how it is. For me, the big difference is that he has a shedload more honour than Lallana. I say this as proud Englishman who has some problem with French/Alsacian attitudes at times. If Morgan does leave, I believe he will do it whilst doing all he can to show respect to the club and city that has become his home. Shaw and Lallana could learn something here but, whatever happens, I doubt the Board or Ron will play a decisive part in the ultimate outcome.
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: Apparently Morgan has said he is prepared to listen to what Ron and the club have to say before deciding his future. The outcome will tell us all we need to know, if he stays it's because we're pushing on.[/p][/quote]Hopefully he was bluffing to get himself a better deal, hopefully we will give him an offer he cannot refuse. He is a player that we can build the rest of the team around. Fingers crossed.[/p][/quote]I don't think the exodus was just about money, it was also ambition and he is prepared to listen to the new regime which the others weren't. If they fail to persuade him to stay then we should worry.[/p][/quote]My reading of Morgan is a bit different. I hope I am wrong but, alas, I think he will leave and, as you say, it'll be about his career not the money. He's served us well and deserves our respect and thanks. However, there's little doubt in my mind that Didier Dechamps has told him that to be part of the next 2-year French project to win the Euros on home turf, he will have to be playing in Europe for a club he has bothered to take notice of during his career. He can't be sure of that with us. Least we forget, Dechamps developed at a decent FC Nantes but jumped ship for Marseille, then Juva and then Chelsea. As I said, I so hope I'm wrong and he stays but that's how it is. For me, the big difference is that he has a shedload more honour than Lallana. I say this as proud Englishman who has some problem with French/Alsacian attitudes at times. If Morgan does leave, I believe he will do it whilst doing all he can to show respect to the club and city that has become his home. Shaw and Lallana could learn something here but, whatever happens, I doubt the Board or Ron will play a decisive part in the ultimate outcome. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: -1

11:28am Sun 6 Jul 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

saintjon127 wrote:
Fact: I am a saints supporter
Fact: I have been supporting Saints for almost 40 years
Fact: I will l be a Saints supporter for the rest of my life
Fact: Whatever happens in the coming weeks I will still support the Saints
Question: Will you?
SAINTS TILL I DIE WHATEVER!!
Answer: Yes.

Next question.
[quote][p][bold]saintjon127[/bold] wrote: Fact: I am a saints supporter Fact: I have been supporting Saints for almost 40 years Fact: I will l be a Saints supporter for the rest of my life Fact: Whatever happens in the coming weeks I will still support the Saints Question: Will you? SAINTS TILL I DIE WHATEVER!![/p][/quote]Answer: Yes. Next question. Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 2

11:34am Sun 6 Jul 14

dadofmy3sons says...

Strasbourg Saint wrote:
saintjon127 wrote:
Fact: I am a saints supporter
Fact: I have been supporting Saints for almost 40 years
Fact: I will l be a Saints supporter for the rest of my life
Fact: Whatever happens in the coming weeks I will still support the Saints
Question: Will you?
SAINTS TILL I DIE WHATEVER!!
Answer: Yes.

Next question.
Support the Saints
you know it makes sense.
[quote][p][bold]Strasbourg Saint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saintjon127[/bold] wrote: Fact: I am a saints supporter Fact: I have been supporting Saints for almost 40 years Fact: I will l be a Saints supporter for the rest of my life Fact: Whatever happens in the coming weeks I will still support the Saints Question: Will you? SAINTS TILL I DIE WHATEVER!![/p][/quote]Answer: Yes. Next question.[/p][/quote]Support the Saints you know it makes sense. dadofmy3sons
  • Score: 0

11:42am Sun 6 Jul 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
damoose wrote:
Full Lovren interview ....

Liverpool sent the offer and the club haven’t informed m. Not even about the subsequent Liverpool bids. That wasn’t right. I found out about the bid from other people which disappointed me and I realised I’ve got no business staying at Southampton.
Liverpool sent a 20 million offer and they paid nine million for me, so they would’ve earned twice the amount.
At this point, I don’t know what I’ll do and I don’t like it. It was unbelievable that a few days ago I had an offer of 20 million pounds. It was in the morning and by the afternoon the club had said I was not for sale. Frankly, my head is already at Liverpool.
Honestly, I don’t know who the main man at the club is anymore. They are now looking for 25 million pounds, but I don’t think they’ll get it.
Liverpool is one of the biggest clubs in the world. Only Real Madrid have as many fans around the world. The last time I played at Anfield, I got chills when I heard ‘You’ll Never Walk Alone.’ I would like to listen to it all the time.
Look, I’d gladly stay in Southampton if the club had any ambitions, if they kept the key players. not even the Liverpool bid would have dissuaded me.
When I decided to go to Southampton, many people were surprised, but I went because the people at the club had great ambition. They gave me assurances about the project — the former chairman, Nicola Cortese, and the former coach, Mauricio Pochettino, convinced me. They gave me incredible confidence.
When I began training there, I realised they had a very good team. They promised to buy two more players — they bought Osvaldo and Wanyama. They are great players. The aim was to qualify for Europe, to get into the Europa League at least.
No one knew who would take over the club. Suspicions were raised. I asked Mauricio what was happening and he couldn’t say whether or not he would stay on or make promises for the next five or six years about investment in the club, challenging for the Champions League, making new signings or keeping key players.
It was because of that I’d agreed to sign for Southampton. When the chairman left, and Pochettino was going too as early as April, I realised things had fallen apart.
If this is genuine it is EXACTLY what I have been saying.
I've not said a lot about Lovren on these threads. Here's one thought. A couple of years' ago, he did well at Lyon. Barca wanted him but Lyon wouldn't sell him. Lyon would have bagged a lot of cash but wouldn't let him break his contract. I think he may have told Lyon, 'Okay, I'll stay but don't expect much from me next year, my heart isn't in it.' The next season, he was pants, got sent off and gifted penalties and soft goals. We bought him on the cheap but Lyon fans thought we had been mugged.

If he stays, expect the same and one year from now we'll sall for under £10m.

But I think he'll leave because he will already have told the Board to remember what happened at Lyon. What he chooses to say now can be taken with a pinch of salt. He wants out and wants to convince us that it's not his fault. We gave him a route up to a club closer in size to Barca. If he goes to Liverpool and does well next year, expect the Barca deal to be back on.

So, in short, sell him for £20m+ and move on.

I'd love to stay and chat more, but must now go .....
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]damoose[/bold] wrote: Full Lovren interview .... Liverpool sent the offer and the club haven’t informed m. Not even about the subsequent Liverpool bids. That wasn’t right. I found out about the bid from other people which disappointed me and I realised I’ve got no business staying at Southampton. Liverpool sent a 20 million offer and they [Southampton] paid nine million for me, so they would’ve earned twice the amount. At this point, I don’t know what I’ll do and I don’t like it. It was unbelievable that a few days ago I had an offer of 20 million pounds. It was in the morning and by the afternoon the club had said I was not for sale. Frankly, my head is already at Liverpool. Honestly, I don’t know who the main man at the club is anymore. They are now looking for 25 million pounds, but I don’t think they’ll get it. Liverpool is one of the biggest clubs in the world. Only Real Madrid have as many fans around the world. The last time I played at Anfield, I got chills when I heard ‘You’ll Never Walk Alone.’ I would like to listen to it all the time. Look, I’d gladly stay in Southampton if the club had any ambitions, if they kept the key players. [If that had happened] not even the Liverpool bid would have dissuaded me. When I decided to go to Southampton, many people were surprised, but I went because the people at the club had great ambition. They gave me assurances about the project — the former chairman, Nicola Cortese, and the former coach, Mauricio Pochettino, convinced me. They gave me incredible confidence. When I began training there, I realised they had a very good team. They promised to buy two more players — they bought [Pablo Daniel] Osvaldo and [Victor] Wanyama. They are great players. The aim was to qualify for Europe, to get into the Europa League at least. No one knew who would take over the club. Suspicions were raised. I asked Mauricio what was happening and he couldn’t say whether or not he would stay on or make promises for the next five or six years about investment in the club, challenging for the Champions League, making new signings or keeping key players. It was because of that I’d agreed to sign for Southampton. When the chairman left, and Pochettino was going too as early as April, I realised things had fallen apart.[/p][/quote]If this is genuine it is EXACTLY what I have been saying.[/p][/quote]I've not said a lot about Lovren on these threads. Here's one thought. A couple of years' ago, he did well at Lyon. Barca wanted him but Lyon wouldn't sell him. Lyon would have bagged a lot of cash but wouldn't let him break his contract. I think he may have told Lyon, 'Okay, I'll stay but don't expect much from me next year, my heart isn't in it.' The next season, he was pants, got sent off and gifted penalties and soft goals. We bought him on the cheap but Lyon fans thought we had been mugged. If he stays, expect the same and one year from now we'll sall for under £10m. But I think he'll leave because he will already have told the Board to remember what happened at Lyon. What he chooses to say now can be taken with a pinch of salt. He wants out and wants to convince us that it's not his fault. We gave him a route up to a club closer in size to Barca. If he goes to Liverpool and does well next year, expect the Barca deal to be back on. So, in short, sell him for £20m+ and move on. I'd love to stay and chat more, but must now go ..... Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 1

11:49am Sun 6 Jul 14

THE12THMAN says...

damoose wrote:
Full Lovren interview ....

Liverpool sent the offer and the club haven’t informed m. Not even about the subsequent Liverpool bids. That wasn’t right. I found out about the bid from other people which disappointed me and I realised I’ve got no business staying at Southampton.
Liverpool sent a 20 million offer and they paid nine million for me, so they would’ve earned twice the amount.
At this point, I don’t know what I’ll do and I don’t like it. It was unbelievable that a few days ago I had an offer of 20 million pounds. It was in the morning and by the afternoon the club had said I was not for sale. Frankly, my head is already at Liverpool.
Honestly, I don’t know who the main man at the club is anymore. They are now looking for 25 million pounds, but I don’t think they’ll get it.
Liverpool is one of the biggest clubs in the world. Only Real Madrid have as many fans around the world. The last time I played at Anfield, I got chills when I heard ‘You’ll Never Walk Alone.’ I would like to listen to it all the time.
Look, I’d gladly stay in Southampton if the club had any ambitions, if they kept the key players. not even the Liverpool bid would have dissuaded me.
When I decided to go to Southampton, many people were surprised, but I went because the people at the club had great ambition. They gave me assurances about the project — the former chairman, Nicola Cortese, and the former coach, Mauricio Pochettino, convinced me. They gave me incredible confidence.
When I began training there, I realised they had a very good team. They promised to buy two more players — they bought Osvaldo and Wanyama. They are great players. The aim was to qualify for Europe, to get into the Europa League at least.
No one knew who would take over the club. Suspicions were raised. I asked Mauricio what was happening and he couldn’t say whether or not he would stay on or make promises for the next five or six years about investment in the club, challenging for the Champions League, making new signings or keeping key players.
It was because of that I’d agreed to sign for Southampton. When the chairman left, and Pochettino was going too as early as April, I realised things had fallen apart.
I don't understand how someone who earns more in a week than most people earn in a year can moan so much. Life is full of disappointments Lovren, saints fans don't want to hear you moan, they just want to see you playing for saints.
[quote][p][bold]damoose[/bold] wrote: Full Lovren interview .... Liverpool sent the offer and the club haven’t informed m. Not even about the subsequent Liverpool bids. That wasn’t right. I found out about the bid from other people which disappointed me and I realised I’ve got no business staying at Southampton. Liverpool sent a 20 million offer and they [Southampton] paid nine million for me, so they would’ve earned twice the amount. At this point, I don’t know what I’ll do and I don’t like it. It was unbelievable that a few days ago I had an offer of 20 million pounds. It was in the morning and by the afternoon the club had said I was not for sale. Frankly, my head is already at Liverpool. Honestly, I don’t know who the main man at the club is anymore. They are now looking for 25 million pounds, but I don’t think they’ll get it. Liverpool is one of the biggest clubs in the world. Only Real Madrid have as many fans around the world. The last time I played at Anfield, I got chills when I heard ‘You’ll Never Walk Alone.’ I would like to listen to it all the time. Look, I’d gladly stay in Southampton if the club had any ambitions, if they kept the key players. [If that had happened] not even the Liverpool bid would have dissuaded me. When I decided to go to Southampton, many people were surprised, but I went because the people at the club had great ambition. They gave me assurances about the project — the former chairman, Nicola Cortese, and the former coach, Mauricio Pochettino, convinced me. They gave me incredible confidence. When I began training there, I realised they had a very good team. They promised to buy two more players — they bought [Pablo Daniel] Osvaldo and [Victor] Wanyama. They are great players. The aim was to qualify for Europe, to get into the Europa League at least. No one knew who would take over the club. Suspicions were raised. I asked Mauricio what was happening and he couldn’t say whether or not he would stay on or make promises for the next five or six years about investment in the club, challenging for the Champions League, making new signings or keeping key players. It was because of that I’d agreed to sign for Southampton. When the chairman left, and Pochettino was going too as early as April, I realised things had fallen apart.[/p][/quote]I don't understand how someone who earns more in a week than most people earn in a year can moan so much. Life is full of disappointments Lovren, saints fans don't want to hear you moan, they just want to see you playing for saints. THE12THMAN
  • Score: 4

11:52am Sun 6 Jul 14

Chipmonk1 says...

"I don't know who the main man is anymore. .." Well come the feck back talk to them and if you don't like the answer by all means force a move.
"I don't know who the main man is anymore. .." Well come the feck back talk to them and if you don't like the answer by all means force a move. Chipmonk1
  • Score: 3

11:58am Sun 6 Jul 14

Baddesley Bill says...

IMO, season's start cannot come soon enough. We (as fans) can put all this uncertainty behind us and get on with doing what we do best.

Support the Saints!!!! COYR
IMO, season's start cannot come soon enough. We (as fans) can put all this uncertainty behind us and get on with doing what we do best. Support the Saints!!!! COYR Baddesley Bill
  • Score: 1

12:01pm Sun 6 Jul 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Rising_Son wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
jasons odd wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Dave Brown wrote:
Yes Ospreysaint,I have supported The Saints through thick and thin for the last sixty years and I have no interest in The Skates.
Then I suggest you at least try to support them when they need you most, that means keeping your negative thoughts to yourself, posting your hopes, keeping the faith and wait for the good times to return. Ignor the WUMs they will only confuse and corrupt your thinking process. Sorry if you think I am bullying but that is how I feel right now.
Why is there always some fool on every forum telling people how to support their club . WHAT A MORON !

Its a free country , and free speech is allowed . No doubt this same fool was one of the ones spouting the same nonsense when Lowe was in charge .
"Its a free country , and free speech is allowed ." So, why do you have a problem with his comments?
Exactly Rising,so why do you keep jumping on other peoples comments and nitpicking all the time?
Because he can, just as you have done, it's called free speech, don't you just love it?
Yes I do mate! I just demand the right to come on here and spout my drivel(and I spout a lot of it)without fear of being criticised for doing so.
(That'll put the thumbs up/thumbs downers in a quandary). ;0)
But freedom of speech includes the freedom to criticise.
No,it allows you the freedom to agree or disagree with the statement someone has made,not criticise them personally for saying it.
When have I criticised people personally? Find some examples.
You've just said you've got the right to criticise freedom of speech,the very premise of freedom of speech,doesn't allow that.
Doesn't it? That'll be news to people who believe in free speech?

I notice you haven't presented evidence of me criticising people personally. Why is that?
Stop nit picking an go out for a cycle ride or something.
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jasons odd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Brown[/bold] wrote: Yes Ospreysaint,I have supported The Saints through thick and thin for the last sixty years and I have no interest in The Skates.[/p][/quote]Then I suggest you at least try to support them when they need you most, that means keeping your negative thoughts to yourself, posting your hopes, keeping the faith and wait for the good times to return. Ignor the WUMs they will only confuse and corrupt your thinking process. Sorry if you think I am bullying but that is how I feel right now.[/p][/quote]Why is there always some fool on every forum telling people how to support their club . WHAT A MORON ! Its a free country , and free speech is allowed . No doubt this same fool was one of the ones spouting the same nonsense when Lowe was in charge .[/p][/quote]"Its a free country , and free speech is allowed ." So, why do you have a problem with his comments?[/p][/quote]Exactly Rising,so why do you keep jumping on other peoples comments and nitpicking all the time?[/p][/quote]Because he can, just as you have done, it's called free speech, don't you just love it?[/p][/quote]Yes I do mate! I just demand the right to come on here and spout my drivel(and I spout a lot of it)without fear of being criticised for doing so. (That'll put the thumbs up/thumbs downers in a quandary). ;0)[/p][/quote]But freedom of speech includes the freedom to criticise.[/p][/quote]No,it allows you the freedom to agree or disagree with the statement someone has made,not criticise them personally for saying it.[/p][/quote]When have I criticised people personally? Find some examples.[/p][/quote]You've just said you've got the right to criticise freedom of speech,the very premise of freedom of speech,doesn't allow that.[/p][/quote]Doesn't it? That'll be news to people who believe in free speech? I notice you haven't presented evidence of me criticising people personally. Why is that?[/p][/quote]Stop nit picking an go out for a cycle ride or something. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 0

12:05pm Sun 6 Jul 14

Littleton-Saint says...

dadofmy3sons wrote:
Lovren statement.

"It was because of that I’d agreed to sign for Southampton. When the chairman left, and Pochettino was going too as early as April, I realised things had fallen apart."

Not sure he should have said that, he may just have opened up a can of worms that the club didn't want to be known.
Perhaps we are getting closer to the truth of how the club is being ripped apart.
My opinion is that Cortese has systematically orchestrated the unrest.
He was in charge of everything and had total control of the club. He did well but if I was an owner I would not want someone like him spending my money without being able to have an input. Obviously we will never know why and how the split happened, but it is very clear that his leaving was the catalyst for all the subsequent departures.
We now need someone to take the helm and make the kind of statement that will convince all of us that our club is back on track.
Perhaps Lovren should feel pleased that his club values him that highly.
I think that the appointment of RK demonstrates
KL's commitment to Saints. She could have appointed someone
less decorated on a far lower salary if she were
not serious about Saints' future.
I agree that Cortese stirred things up to the point where we've lost
a manager and a few players, but this was inevitable.
We've received good cash for the players sold and if we can
replace traitors Lallana, Shaw and Lambert with better players at lower cost, then we're on for a great season ahead. The £27m for Shaw is particularly good business as he's easily replaceable. Tadic is a better player than Lallana and at half the cost.

By the time the new season starts we'll have better players and a better manager than one-trick MoPo.
[quote][p][bold]dadofmy3sons[/bold] wrote: Lovren statement. "It was because of that I’d agreed to sign for Southampton. When the chairman left, and Pochettino was going too as early as April, I realised things had fallen apart." Not sure he should have said that, he may just have opened up a can of worms that the club didn't want to be known. Perhaps we are getting closer to the truth of how the club is being ripped apart. My opinion is that Cortese has systematically orchestrated the unrest. He was in charge of everything and had total control of the club. He did well but if I was an owner I would not want someone like him spending my money without being able to have an input. Obviously we will never know why and how the split happened, but it is very clear that his leaving was the catalyst for all the subsequent departures. We now need someone to take the helm and make the kind of statement that will convince all of us that our club is back on track. Perhaps Lovren should feel pleased that his club values him that highly.[/p][/quote]I think that the appointment of RK demonstrates KL's commitment to Saints. She could have appointed someone less decorated on a far lower salary if she were not serious about Saints' future. I agree that Cortese stirred things up to the point where we've lost a manager and a few players, but this was inevitable. We've received good cash for the players sold and if we can replace traitors Lallana, Shaw and Lambert with better players at lower cost, then we're on for a great season ahead. The £27m for Shaw is particularly good business as he's easily replaceable. Tadic is a better player than Lallana and at half the cost. By the time the new season starts we'll have better players and a better manager than one-trick MoPo. Littleton-Saint
  • Score: 3

12:05pm Sun 6 Jul 14

saintjon127 says...

Dave Brown wrote:
The manner in which the board placed the season tickets on sale early and then selling three English International players is I feel a total con trick played on the supporters who purchased their tickets.
I am sure Les Reed and the board knew they would be selling and raising funds to clear the debts.
Do not believe the funds raised to date will be re invested in quality players.
Once the club is totally debt free I feel we could see the For Sale signs go up outside St Marys offers in excess of £150 million a few players available to sell on.
I have renewed my season ticket (before anyone was sold) and it makes absolutely no difference to me either way. I support Saints through thick & thin, I always have (since 1975) I don't earn loads of money, I budget weekly so that I can renew my seat year after year. Of course I would like to see world class players coming to play for us and of course I would like to see us competing at the highest level, but I would (and did) go and watch Saints play no matter what league we are in. As for the "For Sale" signs going up who feckin cares, anyone that could stump up £150 million, would surely want to help the club progress! The worst thing (in my opinion) that has happened to our club in recent history was the untimely death of Marcus Liebher, I truly think he would have gone on to have a passion for Saints like the fans.
Fans should not wait to see who is being released/bought before committing to watching otherwise they are only glory hunters. If thats what you want then go and get a season ticket elsewhere
[quote][p][bold]Dave Brown[/bold] wrote: The manner in which the board placed the season tickets on sale early and then selling three English International players is I feel a total con trick played on the supporters who purchased their tickets. I am sure Les Reed and the board knew they would be selling and raising funds to clear the debts. Do not believe the funds raised to date will be re invested in quality players. Once the club is totally debt free I feel we could see the For Sale signs go up outside St Marys offers in excess of £150 million a few players available to sell on.[/p][/quote]I have renewed my season ticket (before anyone was sold) and it makes absolutely no difference to me either way. I support Saints through thick & thin, I always have (since 1975) I don't earn loads of money, I budget weekly so that I can renew my seat year after year. Of course I would like to see world class players coming to play for us and of course I would like to see us competing at the highest level, but I would (and did) go and watch Saints play no matter what league we are in. As for the "For Sale" signs going up who feckin cares, anyone that could stump up £150 million, would surely want to help the club progress! The worst thing (in my opinion) that has happened to our club in recent history was the untimely death of Marcus Liebher, I truly think he would have gone on to have a passion for Saints like the fans. Fans should not wait to see who is being released/bought before committing to watching otherwise they are only glory hunters. If thats what you want then go and get a season ticket elsewhere saintjon127
  • Score: 3

12:19pm Sun 6 Jul 14

Rising_Son says...

4thstreet, If you don't like people commenting negatively on your posts, don't comment negatively their posts.
4thstreet, If you don't like people commenting negatively on your posts, don't comment negatively their posts. Rising_Son
  • Score: 0

12:23pm Sun 6 Jul 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Rising_Son wrote:
4thstreet, If you don't like people commenting negatively on your posts, don't comment negatively their posts.
Yes alright Rising,you're right an' I'm wrong...happy now?
[quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: 4thstreet, If you don't like people commenting negatively on your posts, don't comment negatively their posts.[/p][/quote]Yes alright Rising,you're right an' I'm wrong...happy now? Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 1

12:42pm Sun 6 Jul 14

deepheat says...

FFS.

Everton linked with Tadic swoop

Everton manager Roberto Martinez is reportedly trying to hijack Southampton's attempt to sign FC Twente's Dusan Tadic this summer.

New Saints boss Ronald Koeman has been linked with a swoop for the highly-rated Serbian midfielder and it was thought that he would make a bid sooner rather than later.

Unconfirmed reports claimed that Southampton had already agreed an £8.7million for the former FC Groningen ace, who has scored 28 goals in 64 appearances for the Eredivisie side.

But that deal may now be put on hold as the Toffees show their interest in the talented schemer, with Martinez said to be a big fan of the Backa Topola-born ace.

Liverpool have also been linked and so there could be a double threat from Merseyside for Koeman to deal with if he wants to land his man.

http://www.eatsleeps
port.com/eredivisie/
everton-linked-with-
tadic-swoop-1777437.
html
FFS. Everton linked with Tadic swoop Everton manager Roberto Martinez is reportedly trying to hijack Southampton's attempt to sign FC Twente's Dusan Tadic this summer. New Saints boss Ronald Koeman has been linked with a swoop for the highly-rated Serbian midfielder and it was thought that he would make a bid sooner rather than later. Unconfirmed reports claimed that Southampton had already agreed an £8.7million for the former FC Groningen ace, who has scored 28 goals in 64 appearances for the Eredivisie side. But that deal may now be put on hold as the Toffees show their interest in the talented schemer, with Martinez said to be a big fan of the Backa Topola-born ace. Liverpool have also been linked and so there could be a double threat from Merseyside for Koeman to deal with if he wants to land his man. http://www.eatsleeps port.com/eredivisie/ everton-linked-with- tadic-swoop-1777437. html deepheat
  • Score: 1

1:20pm Sun 6 Jul 14

montecristosaint says...

deepheat wrote:
FFS.

Everton linked with Tadic swoop

Everton manager Roberto Martinez is reportedly trying to hijack Southampton's attempt to sign FC Twente's Dusan Tadic this summer.

New Saints boss Ronald Koeman has been linked with a swoop for the highly-rated Serbian midfielder and it was thought that he would make a bid sooner rather than later.

Unconfirmed reports claimed that Southampton had already agreed an £8.7million for the former FC Groningen ace, who has scored 28 goals in 64 appearances for the Eredivisie side.

But that deal may now be put on hold as the Toffees show their interest in the talented schemer, with Martinez said to be a big fan of the Backa Topola-born ace.

Liverpool have also been linked and so there could be a double threat from Merseyside for Koeman to deal with if he wants to land his man.

http://www.eatsleeps

port.com/eredivisie/

everton-linked-with-

tadic-swoop-1777437.

html
this is what happens when you dont close your deals out Les Reed. You get gazumped and muscled out by bigger clubs. What makes anybody think in view of the dreadful shenanigans at Saints this summer that top players will be willing to join the club anyway.
The Tadic deal is as good as dead in my opinion if it was going to happen it would have done so last week.
[quote][p][bold]deepheat[/bold] wrote: FFS. Everton linked with Tadic swoop Everton manager Roberto Martinez is reportedly trying to hijack Southampton's attempt to sign FC Twente's Dusan Tadic this summer. New Saints boss Ronald Koeman has been linked with a swoop for the highly-rated Serbian midfielder and it was thought that he would make a bid sooner rather than later. Unconfirmed reports claimed that Southampton had already agreed an £8.7million for the former FC Groningen ace, who has scored 28 goals in 64 appearances for the Eredivisie side. But that deal may now be put on hold as the Toffees show their interest in the talented schemer, with Martinez said to be a big fan of the Backa Topola-born ace. Liverpool have also been linked and so there could be a double threat from Merseyside for Koeman to deal with if he wants to land his man. http://www.eatsleeps port.com/eredivisie/ everton-linked-with- tadic-swoop-1777437. html[/p][/quote]this is what happens when you dont close your deals out Les Reed. You get gazumped and muscled out by bigger clubs. What makes anybody think in view of the dreadful shenanigans at Saints this summer that top players will be willing to join the club anyway. The Tadic deal is as good as dead in my opinion if it was going to happen it would have done so last week. montecristosaint
  • Score: -1

1:20pm Sun 6 Jul 14

montecristosaint says...

deepheat wrote:
FFS.

Everton linked with Tadic swoop

Everton manager Roberto Martinez is reportedly trying to hijack Southampton's attempt to sign FC Twente's Dusan Tadic this summer.

New Saints boss Ronald Koeman has been linked with a swoop for the highly-rated Serbian midfielder and it was thought that he would make a bid sooner rather than later.

Unconfirmed reports claimed that Southampton had already agreed an £8.7million for the former FC Groningen ace, who has scored 28 goals in 64 appearances for the Eredivisie side.

But that deal may now be put on hold as the Toffees show their interest in the talented schemer, with Martinez said to be a big fan of the Backa Topola-born ace.

Liverpool have also been linked and so there could be a double threat from Merseyside for Koeman to deal with if he wants to land his man.

http://www.eatsleeps

port.com/eredivisie/

everton-linked-with-

tadic-swoop-1777437.

html
this is what happens when you dont close your deals out Les Reed. You get gazumped and muscled out by bigger clubs. What makes anybody think in view of the dreadful shenanigans at Saints this summer that top players will be willing to join the club anyway.
The Tadic deal is as good as dead in my opinion if it was going to happen it would have done so last week.
[quote][p][bold]deepheat[/bold] wrote: FFS. Everton linked with Tadic swoop Everton manager Roberto Martinez is reportedly trying to hijack Southampton's attempt to sign FC Twente's Dusan Tadic this summer. New Saints boss Ronald Koeman has been linked with a swoop for the highly-rated Serbian midfielder and it was thought that he would make a bid sooner rather than later. Unconfirmed reports claimed that Southampton had already agreed an £8.7million for the former FC Groningen ace, who has scored 28 goals in 64 appearances for the Eredivisie side. But that deal may now be put on hold as the Toffees show their interest in the talented schemer, with Martinez said to be a big fan of the Backa Topola-born ace. Liverpool have also been linked and so there could be a double threat from Merseyside for Koeman to deal with if he wants to land his man. http://www.eatsleeps port.com/eredivisie/ everton-linked-with- tadic-swoop-1777437. html[/p][/quote]this is what happens when you dont close your deals out Les Reed. You get gazumped and muscled out by bigger clubs. What makes anybody think in view of the dreadful shenanigans at Saints this summer that top players will be willing to join the club anyway. The Tadic deal is as good as dead in my opinion if it was going to happen it would have done so last week. montecristosaint
  • Score: -1

1:57pm Sun 6 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

montecristosaint wrote:
deepheat wrote:
FFS.

Everton linked with Tadic swoop

Everton manager Roberto Martinez is reportedly trying to hijack Southampton's attempt to sign FC Twente's Dusan Tadic this summer.

New Saints boss Ronald Koeman has been linked with a swoop for the highly-rated Serbian midfielder and it was thought that he would make a bid sooner rather than later.

Unconfirmed reports claimed that Southampton had already agreed an £8.7million for the former FC Groningen ace, who has scored 28 goals in 64 appearances for the Eredivisie side.

But that deal may now be put on hold as the Toffees show their interest in the talented schemer, with Martinez said to be a big fan of the Backa Topola-born ace.

Liverpool have also been linked and so there could be a double threat from Merseyside for Koeman to deal with if he wants to land his man.

http://www.eatsleeps


port.com/eredivisie/


everton-linked-with-


tadic-swoop-1777437.


html
this is what happens when you dont close your deals out Les Reed. You get gazumped and muscled out by bigger clubs. What makes anybody think in view of the dreadful shenanigans at Saints this summer that top players will be willing to join the club anyway.
The Tadic deal is as good as dead in my opinion if it was going to happen it would have done so last week.
Looks like we may have been gazumped yet again, shall we declare open war on Merseyside?
[quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]deepheat[/bold] wrote: FFS. Everton linked with Tadic swoop Everton manager Roberto Martinez is reportedly trying to hijack Southampton's attempt to sign FC Twente's Dusan Tadic this summer. New Saints boss Ronald Koeman has been linked with a swoop for the highly-rated Serbian midfielder and it was thought that he would make a bid sooner rather than later. Unconfirmed reports claimed that Southampton had already agreed an £8.7million for the former FC Groningen ace, who has scored 28 goals in 64 appearances for the Eredivisie side. But that deal may now be put on hold as the Toffees show their interest in the talented schemer, with Martinez said to be a big fan of the Backa Topola-born ace. Liverpool have also been linked and so there could be a double threat from Merseyside for Koeman to deal with if he wants to land his man. http://www.eatsleeps port.com/eredivisie/ everton-linked-with- tadic-swoop-1777437. html[/p][/quote]this is what happens when you dont close your deals out Les Reed. You get gazumped and muscled out by bigger clubs. What makes anybody think in view of the dreadful shenanigans at Saints this summer that top players will be willing to join the club anyway. The Tadic deal is as good as dead in my opinion if it was going to happen it would have done so last week.[/p][/quote]Looks like we may have been gazumped yet again, shall we declare open war on Merseyside? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

1:59pm Sun 6 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

damoose wrote:
@Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

If this is genuine it is EXACTLY what I have been saying.

--------------------


http://m.101greatgoa

ls.com/blog/dejan-lo

vren-public-slates-s

outhampton-confirms-

liverpool-had-a-20m-

offer-rejected-sport

ske-novosti/
If?
[quote][p][bold]damoose[/bold] wrote: @Seedhouse the Unrepentant says... If this is genuine it is EXACTLY what I have been saying. -------------------- http://m.101greatgoa ls.com/blog/dejan-lo vren-public-slates-s outhampton-confirms- liverpool-had-a-20m- offer-rejected-sport ske-novosti/[/p][/quote]If? OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -2

2:03pm Sun 6 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Rising_Son wrote:
4thstreet, If you don't like people commenting negatively on your posts, don't comment negatively their posts.
Yes alright Rising,you're right an' I'm wrong...happy now?
No chance of being happy today, too much bad news to think about being cheerful.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rising_Son[/bold] wrote: 4thstreet, If you don't like people commenting negatively on your posts, don't comment negatively their posts.[/p][/quote]Yes alright Rising,you're right an' I'm wrong...happy now?[/p][/quote]No chance of being happy today, too much bad news to think about being cheerful. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -1

4:09pm Sun 6 Jul 14

Smuggins2 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
montecristosaint wrote:
deepheat wrote:
FFS.

Everton linked with Tadic swoop

Everton manager Roberto Martinez is reportedly trying to hijack Southampton's attempt to sign FC Twente's Dusan Tadic this summer.

New Saints boss Ronald Koeman has been linked with a swoop for the highly-rated Serbian midfielder and it was thought that he would make a bid sooner rather than later.

Unconfirmed reports claimed that Southampton had already agreed an £8.7million for the former FC Groningen ace, who has scored 28 goals in 64 appearances for the Eredivisie side.

But that deal may now be put on hold as the Toffees show their interest in the talented schemer, with Martinez said to be a big fan of the Backa Topola-born ace.

Liverpool have also been linked and so there could be a double threat from Merseyside for Koeman to deal with if he wants to land his man.

http://www.eatsleeps



port.com/eredivisie/



everton-linked-with-



tadic-swoop-1777437.



html
this is what happens when you dont close your deals out Les Reed. You get gazumped and muscled out by bigger clubs. What makes anybody think in view of the dreadful shenanigans at Saints this summer that top players will be willing to join the club anyway.
The Tadic deal is as good as dead in my opinion if it was going to happen it would have done so last week.
Looks like we may have been gazumped yet again, shall we declare open war on Merseyside?
Twente coach confirmed today that Tadic will sign for Saints this week. He was left out of their friendly match today to avoid injury ahead of his medical. Doom mongers p o.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]deepheat[/bold] wrote: FFS. Everton linked with Tadic swoop Everton manager Roberto Martinez is reportedly trying to hijack Southampton's attempt to sign FC Twente's Dusan Tadic this summer. New Saints boss Ronald Koeman has been linked with a swoop for the highly-rated Serbian midfielder and it was thought that he would make a bid sooner rather than later. Unconfirmed reports claimed that Southampton had already agreed an £8.7million for the former FC Groningen ace, who has scored 28 goals in 64 appearances for the Eredivisie side. But that deal may now be put on hold as the Toffees show their interest in the talented schemer, with Martinez said to be a big fan of the Backa Topola-born ace. Liverpool have also been linked and so there could be a double threat from Merseyside for Koeman to deal with if he wants to land his man. http://www.eatsleeps port.com/eredivisie/ everton-linked-with- tadic-swoop-1777437. html[/p][/quote]this is what happens when you dont close your deals out Les Reed. You get gazumped and muscled out by bigger clubs. What makes anybody think in view of the dreadful shenanigans at Saints this summer that top players will be willing to join the club anyway. The Tadic deal is as good as dead in my opinion if it was going to happen it would have done so last week.[/p][/quote]Looks like we may have been gazumped yet again, shall we declare open war on Merseyside?[/p][/quote]Twente coach confirmed today that Tadic will sign for Saints this week. He was left out of their friendly match today to avoid injury ahead of his medical. Doom mongers p o. Smuggins2
  • Score: 0

7:01pm Sun 6 Jul 14

Strasbourg Saint says...

saintjon127 wrote:
Dave Brown wrote:
The manner in which the board placed the season tickets on sale early and then selling three English International players is I feel a total con trick played on the supporters who purchased their tickets.
I am sure Les Reed and the board knew they would be selling and raising funds to clear the debts.
Do not believe the funds raised to date will be re invested in quality players.
Once the club is totally debt free I feel we could see the For Sale signs go up outside St Marys offers in excess of £150 million a few players available to sell on.
I have renewed my season ticket (before anyone was sold) and it makes absolutely no difference to me either way. I support Saints through thick & thin, I always have (since 1975) I don't earn loads of money, I budget weekly so that I can renew my seat year after year. Of course I would like to see world class players coming to play for us and of course I would like to see us competing at the highest level, but I would (and did) go and watch Saints play no matter what league we are in. As for the "For Sale" signs going up who feckin cares, anyone that could stump up £150 million, would surely want to help the club progress! The worst thing (in my opinion) that has happened to our club in recent history was the untimely death of Marcus Liebher, I truly think he would have gone on to have a passion for Saints like the fans.
Fans should not wait to see who is being released/bought before committing to watching otherwise they are only glory hunters. If thats what you want then go and get a season ticket elsewhere
Spot on!

If Carlsberg made Saints fans .....
[quote][p][bold]saintjon127[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dave Brown[/bold] wrote: The manner in which the board placed the season tickets on sale early and then selling three English International players is I feel a total con trick played on the supporters who purchased their tickets. I am sure Les Reed and the board knew they would be selling and raising funds to clear the debts. Do not believe the funds raised to date will be re invested in quality players. Once the club is totally debt free I feel we could see the For Sale signs go up outside St Marys offers in excess of £150 million a few players available to sell on.[/p][/quote]I have renewed my season ticket (before anyone was sold) and it makes absolutely no difference to me either way. I support Saints through thick & thin, I always have (since 1975) I don't earn loads of money, I budget weekly so that I can renew my seat year after year. Of course I would like to see world class players coming to play for us and of course I would like to see us competing at the highest level, but I would (and did) go and watch Saints play no matter what league we are in. As for the "For Sale" signs going up who feckin cares, anyone that could stump up £150 million, would surely want to help the club progress! The worst thing (in my opinion) that has happened to our club in recent history was the untimely death of Marcus Liebher, I truly think he would have gone on to have a passion for Saints like the fans. Fans should not wait to see who is being released/bought before committing to watching otherwise they are only glory hunters. If thats what you want then go and get a season ticket elsewhere[/p][/quote]Spot on! If Carlsberg made Saints fans ..... Strasbourg Saint
  • Score: 1

7:33pm Sun 6 Jul 14

jls217 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
damoose wrote:
@Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

If this is genuine it is EXACTLY what I have been saying.

--------------------



http://m.101greatgoa


ls.com/blog/dejan-lo


vren-public-slates-s


outhampton-confirms-


liverpool-had-a-20m-


offer-rejected-sport


ske-novosti/
If?
This is quite revealing. More concerned with his perceptions of what happened between NC/Poch/club and who spread this poison through the club and how it benefited them. There seems to have been an inordinate amount of stirring the mud. Why and who?
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]damoose[/bold] wrote: @Seedhouse the Unrepentant says... If this is genuine it is EXACTLY what I have been saying. -------------------- http://m.101greatgoa ls.com/blog/dejan-lo vren-public-slates-s outhampton-confirms- liverpool-had-a-20m- offer-rejected-sport ske-novosti/[/p][/quote]If?[/p][/quote]This is quite revealing. More concerned with his perceptions of what happened between NC/Poch/club and who spread this poison through the club and how it benefited them. There seems to have been an inordinate amount of stirring the mud. Why and who? jls217
  • Score: 2

7:37pm Sun 6 Jul 14

jls217 says...

montecristosaint wrote:
deepheat wrote:
FFS.

Everton linked with Tadic swoop

Everton manager Roberto Martinez is reportedly trying to hijack Southampton's attempt to sign FC Twente's Dusan Tadic this summer.

New Saints boss Ronald Koeman has been linked with a swoop for the highly-rated Serbian midfielder and it was thought that he would make a bid sooner rather than later.

Unconfirmed reports claimed that Southampton had already agreed an £8.7million for the former FC Groningen ace, who has scored 28 goals in 64 appearances for the Eredivisie side.

But that deal may now be put on hold as the Toffees show their interest in the talented schemer, with Martinez said to be a big fan of the Backa Topola-born ace.

Liverpool have also been linked and so there could be a double threat from Merseyside for Koeman to deal with if he wants to land his man.

http://www.eatsleeps


port.com/eredivisie/


everton-linked-with-


tadic-swoop-1777437.


html
this is what happens when you dont close your deals out Les Reed. You get gazumped and muscled out by bigger clubs. What makes anybody think in view of the dreadful shenanigans at Saints this summer that top players will be willing to join the club anyway.
The Tadic deal is as good as dead in my opinion if it was going to happen it would have done so last week.
Can somebody phone Guly and ask him to come back please. I wouldn't put it past Skiverpool to deliberately scupper the deal just because we won't cave in over Dejan!
[quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]deepheat[/bold] wrote: FFS. Everton linked with Tadic swoop Everton manager Roberto Martinez is reportedly trying to hijack Southampton's attempt to sign FC Twente's Dusan Tadic this summer. New Saints boss Ronald Koeman has been linked with a swoop for the highly-rated Serbian midfielder and it was thought that he would make a bid sooner rather than later. Unconfirmed reports claimed that Southampton had already agreed an £8.7million for the former FC Groningen ace, who has scored 28 goals in 64 appearances for the Eredivisie side. But that deal may now be put on hold as the Toffees show their interest in the talented schemer, with Martinez said to be a big fan of the Backa Topola-born ace. Liverpool have also been linked and so there could be a double threat from Merseyside for Koeman to deal with if he wants to land his man. http://www.eatsleeps port.com/eredivisie/ everton-linked-with- tadic-swoop-1777437. html[/p][/quote]this is what happens when you dont close your deals out Les Reed. You get gazumped and muscled out by bigger clubs. What makes anybody think in view of the dreadful shenanigans at Saints this summer that top players will be willing to join the club anyway. The Tadic deal is as good as dead in my opinion if it was going to happen it would have done so last week.[/p][/quote]Can somebody phone Guly and ask him to come back please. I wouldn't put it past Skiverpool to deliberately scupper the deal just because we won't cave in over Dejan! jls217
  • Score: 2

10:27pm Sun 6 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

montecristosaint wrote:
deepheat wrote:
FFS.

Everton linked with Tadic swoop

Everton manager Roberto Martinez is reportedly trying to hijack Southampton's attempt to sign FC Twente's Dusan Tadic this summer.

New Saints boss Ronald Koeman has been linked with a swoop for the highly-rated Serbian midfielder and it was thought that he would make a bid sooner rather than later.

Unconfirmed reports claimed that Southampton had already agreed an £8.7million for the former FC Groningen ace, who has scored 28 goals in 64 appearances for the Eredivisie side.

But that deal may now be put on hold as the Toffees show their interest in the talented schemer, with Martinez said to be a big fan of the Backa Topola-born ace.

Liverpool have also been linked and so there could be a double threat from Merseyside for Koeman to deal with if he wants to land his man.

http://www.eatsleeps


port.com/eredivisie/


everton-linked-with-


tadic-swoop-1777437.


html
this is what happens when you dont close your deals out Les Reed. You get gazumped and muscled out by bigger clubs. What makes anybody think in view of the dreadful shenanigans at Saints this summer that top players will be willing to join the club anyway.
The Tadic deal is as good as dead in my opinion if it was going to happen it would have done so last week.
Looks like you called this one wrong, it apparently isn't dead yet, that's the problem with listening to rumour and hearsay.
[quote][p][bold]montecristosaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]deepheat[/bold] wrote: FFS. Everton linked with Tadic swoop Everton manager Roberto Martinez is reportedly trying to hijack Southampton's attempt to sign FC Twente's Dusan Tadic this summer. New Saints boss Ronald Koeman has been linked with a swoop for the highly-rated Serbian midfielder and it was thought that he would make a bid sooner rather than later. Unconfirmed reports claimed that Southampton had already agreed an £8.7million for the former FC Groningen ace, who has scored 28 goals in 64 appearances for the Eredivisie side. But that deal may now be put on hold as the Toffees show their interest in the talented schemer, with Martinez said to be a big fan of the Backa Topola-born ace. Liverpool have also been linked and so there could be a double threat from Merseyside for Koeman to deal with if he wants to land his man. http://www.eatsleeps port.com/eredivisie/ everton-linked-with- tadic-swoop-1777437. html[/p][/quote]this is what happens when you dont close your deals out Les Reed. You get gazumped and muscled out by bigger clubs. What makes anybody think in view of the dreadful shenanigans at Saints this summer that top players will be willing to join the club anyway. The Tadic deal is as good as dead in my opinion if it was going to happen it would have done so last week.[/p][/quote]Looks like you called this one wrong, it apparently isn't dead yet, that's the problem with listening to rumour and hearsay. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 0

5:49am Tue 8 Jul 14

Tirau Dan says...

Hope these guys turn out to be the new Paine and Davies..
Loved Adam and Rickie to bits but they never produced a combination that would put us in the top 6.
I'm enjoying the rumours but will be very happy to get some ink on paper and see the pre-season squad working together in earnest.
Get em in Les and Ron COYR.. we have every faith in you
Hope these guys turn out to be the new Paine and Davies.. Loved Adam and Rickie to bits but they never produced a combination that would put us in the top 6. I'm enjoying the rumours but will be very happy to get some ink on paper and see the pre-season squad working together in earnest. Get em in Les and Ron COYR.. we have every faith in you Tirau Dan
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