Dejan Lovren joins Liverpool from Southampton in a £20m transfer

Dejan Lovren celebrates scoring against Liverpool, at Anfield, last season

Dejan Lovren celebrates scoring against Liverpool, at Anfield, last season

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Dejan Lovren has completed his £20m transfer from Saints to Liverpool.

The defender passed a medical this weekend and has signed a "long-term" deal at Anfield.

Croatian international Lovren leaves a year after Saints paid £8.5m to sign him from French side Lyon.

The deal takes the total amount received by the club in transfer fees this summer to about £70m - with that figure set to rise.

Liverpool had already had two bids for the centre half turned down, before a fee was agreed late last week.

Lovren made his own intentions clear following the end of the season, when he handed in a transfer request.

The 25-year-old also considered not returning for pre-season in a bid to force through a move, while he conducted an interview in his home country in which he said he felt as if his head was already at Anfield.

Lovren is the third player to make the move from Saints to Liverpool this summer, following the departure of Rickie Lambert and Adam Lallana.

He is also the latest in a string of high-profile stars to leave St Mary's, with Luke Shaw having already joined Manchester United, while Calum Chambers is set to leave for Arsenal in a £16m deal.

After completing the move, Lovren told Liverpool's official website: "It's a dream come true. I'm happy and glad to be here. I'm proud and can't wait to start. I know we have millions and millions of supporters - Liverpool is more than a club.

"After I played at Anfield last season, I said to myself: 'One day I hope I'll be able to play here for Liverpool'. The fans will know from the first minute that I'm a player that will give 100 per cent on the pitch."

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10:08pm Sun 27 Jul 14

saints1998 says...

I can't help but think that relegation Is awaiting us. This is because our squad is probably the smallest in our history. We need at least 6 new players just to replace the ones that have left. Also I think that Liverpool will come in for Jay.
I can't help but think that relegation Is awaiting us. This is because our squad is probably the smallest in our history. We need at least 6 new players just to replace the ones that have left. Also I think that Liverpool will come in for Jay. saints1998
  • Score: 28

10:10pm Sun 27 Jul 14

u bunch of mugs says...

Les Reed out simple as. Why do us saints fans sit back and take this.
No passion I suppose.
Les Reed out simple as. Why do us saints fans sit back and take this. No passion I suppose. u bunch of mugs
  • Score: 17

10:11pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Little Hitler says...

Pi$$ off you money grabbing waste of space, good riddance.
Pi$$ off you money grabbing waste of space, good riddance. Little Hitler
  • Score: 88

10:14pm Sun 27 Jul 14

BumperSaint says...

Bought for 8.5 sold for 20 (potentially more), great bit of business. Just need to announce a decent CB in the next couple of days.....and I'll be more than happy. The guy would only damage team morale if he stayed, so let's get a fresh 8-10 mil (up for the cause) footballer bedded in ready for kick off...... In Ron we trust.
Bought for 8.5 sold for 20 (potentially more), great bit of business. Just need to announce a decent CB in the next couple of days.....and I'll be more than happy. The guy would only damage team morale if he stayed, so let's get a fresh 8-10 mil (up for the cause) footballer bedded in ready for kick off...... In Ron we trust. BumperSaint
  • Score: 105

10:14pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Norwegian Saint says...

Good riddance to him.
No loyalty and no respect to us Saints.
Right... who's next out the door?
Chambers? J-Rod? Morgan? Fonte? Cork? Artur? Victor? Dani?
Good riddance to him. No loyalty and no respect to us Saints. Right... who's next out the door? Chambers? J-Rod? Morgan? Fonte? Cork? Artur? Victor? Dani? Norwegian Saint
  • Score: -12

10:14pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Bazultra says...

Katerina OUT
Katerina OUT Bazultra
  • Score: -73

10:16pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Norwegian Saint says...

This season we regroup and 2015/16 we push on.
If (and it's a big IF) we are in trouble at Christmas we open the bank and spend, this season is just to settle things again. The last five years have been better and better... now let's just consolidate our premier league status and look forward!
This season we regroup and 2015/16 we push on. If (and it's a big IF) we are in trouble at Christmas we open the bank and spend, this season is just to settle things again. The last five years have been better and better... now let's just consolidate our premier league status and look forward! Norwegian Saint
  • Score: 30

10:17pm Sun 27 Jul 14

bbb001 says...

What a tosser, good riddence, lets now srart to rebuild the team with quality commited players not the sh*te that Cortese thought wre good ie Lovren, ramirez and Osvaldo. All awaste of spave.

Cant wait for Lovren to fail at Liverhampton, just remeber all those mistimed tacklres and penalties he was responsible for.
What a tosser, good riddence, lets now srart to rebuild the team with quality commited players not the sh*te that Cortese thought wre good ie Lovren, ramirez and Osvaldo. All awaste of spave. Cant wait for Lovren to fail at Liverhampton, just remeber all those mistimed tacklres and penalties he was responsible for. bbb001
  • Score: 60

10:22pm Sun 27 Jul 14

bullsbags says...

Little Hitler wrote:
Pi$$ off you money grabbing waste of space, good riddance.
Couldn't agree more
I'm afraid the premier league is a morally corrupt institution where apart from the fans perspective the overriding issue is money
Players,owners sponsors are 90% scum who don't live in the real world yet millions hero worship them week in week out like sheep UNBELIEVABLE
[quote][p][bold]Little Hitler[/bold] wrote: Pi$$ off you money grabbing waste of space, good riddance.[/p][/quote]Couldn't agree more I'm afraid the premier league is a morally corrupt institution where apart from the fans perspective the overriding issue is money Players,owners sponsors are 90% scum who don't live in the real world yet millions hero worship them week in week out like sheep UNBELIEVABLE bullsbags
  • Score: 47

10:22pm Sun 27 Jul 14

saintbobby says...

After all this not only did we know he would go, but I think most wanted him to go. LeGod told him to apologise to us and this was never going to happen.

But it is really not being negative to worry what the next news will be, as no news does seem to be bad news.

Hoping several signatures will be collected in the next few days. But SOME news please!
After all this not only did we know he would go, but I think most wanted him to go. LeGod told him to apologise to us and this was never going to happen. But it is really not being negative to worry what the next news will be, as no news does seem to be bad news. Hoping several signatures will be collected in the next few days. But SOME news please! saintbobby
  • Score: 24

10:22pm Sun 27 Jul 14

southcoast62 says...

Les reed is a football genius
Kruger use your large football knowledge to sort this out what knowledge
I hope koeman gets the money.
Please give me a return for my money I spent on season tickets
Don't mug us off let us see a new quality team on August 9th
Note to les reed football genius if a player is worth 8 m don't bid 5m and tell us you are doing all you can
I support saints not happy but hopeful
Les reed is a football genius Kruger use your large football knowledge to sort this out what knowledge I hope koeman gets the money. Please give me a return for my money I spent on season tickets Don't mug us off let us see a new quality team on August 9th Note to les reed football genius if a player is worth 8 m don't bid 5m and tell us you are doing all you can I support saints not happy but hopeful southcoast62
  • Score: 9

10:23pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Whitton says...

Simple as this: a$$hole.
Simple as this: a$$hole. Whitton
  • Score: 21

10:24pm Sun 27 Jul 14

bullsbags says...

bbb001 wrote:
What a tosser, good riddence, lets now srart to rebuild the team with quality commited players not the sh*te that Cortese thought wre good ie Lovren, ramirez and Osvaldo. All awaste of spave.

Cant wait for Lovren to fail at Liverhampton, just remeber all those mistimed tacklres and penalties he was responsible for.
I'll reserve judgement on Ramirez he might just surprise us if he can stay fit
[quote][p][bold]bbb001[/bold] wrote: What a tosser, good riddence, lets now srart to rebuild the team with quality commited players not the sh*te that Cortese thought wre good ie Lovren, ramirez and Osvaldo. All awaste of spave. Cant wait for Lovren to fail at Liverhampton, just remeber all those mistimed tacklres and penalties he was responsible for.[/p][/quote]I'll reserve judgement on Ramirez he might just surprise us if he can stay fit bullsbags
  • Score: 41

10:24pm Sun 27 Jul 14

bathsaints says...

was/is a quality player and we are really going to miss him especially if we don't replace soon...2 cb's asap but they have to be quality. His attitude stinks though, what a money-grabbing, greedy a-hole. I really hope liverpool fail this season...come on board whats going on...we have money to spend and yet while other teams of similar size are strengthening well we seem to be dithering...I hope big Ron is fully backed by the board and that he isn't beginning to wonder what he's signed up to!
was/is a quality player and we are really going to miss him especially if we don't replace soon...2 cb's asap but they have to be quality. His attitude stinks though, what a money-grabbing, greedy a-hole. I really hope liverpool fail this season...come on board whats going on...we have money to spend and yet while other teams of similar size are strengthening well we seem to be dithering...I hope big Ron is fully backed by the board and that he isn't beginning to wonder what he's signed up to! bathsaints
  • Score: 24

10:25pm Sun 27 Jul 14

red/whitearmy says...

What the hell is wrong with some fans. These players want to sod off and are no longer interested in playing for us so what are we supposed to do. Were selling them for higher profits , Pelle and Stadic are in , . So some of you would rather us keep players who no longer want to play for us. These players have **** on us and some on here want to blame the club. As far as im concerned to hell with the players who are not interested. We can have players who are interested and hungry. Not the clubs fault.
What the hell is wrong with some fans. These players want to sod off and are no longer interested in playing for us so what are we supposed to do. Were selling them for higher profits , Pelle and Stadic are in , . So some of you would rather us keep players who no longer want to play for us. These players have **** on us and some on here want to blame the club. As far as im concerned to hell with the players who are not interested. We can have players who are interested and hungry. Not the clubs fault. red/whitearmy
  • Score: 78

10:25pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Positively4thStreet says...

I bet Brendan is up there now,busily glueing Dejan's head back onto his body.
I bet Brendan is up there now,busily glueing Dejan's head back onto his body. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 39

10:26pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Saintsincethe60s says...

Let's cut out the cancer within our club, that was started by Cortese and continued by the slimy argie and move on with players that want to be here.

If there are any more then raise your head above the parapet and p!ss off, we don't want or need anybody without the right attitude at our club , we can rebuild with the over inflated fees
Let's cut out the cancer within our club, that was started by Cortese and continued by the slimy argie and move on with players that want to be here. If there are any more then raise your head above the parapet and p!ss off, we don't want or need anybody without the right attitude at our club , we can rebuild with the over inflated fees Saintsincethe60s
  • Score: 58

10:26pm Sun 27 Jul 14

nomorerumours says...

Now for the great re-build. Just watch our new signings come in during the next few days and over the next 5 weeks - then this may stop all the moaners and make some others less worried. Exciting times ahead for Saints with another top 10 finish. The board and our owner are doing a great job bringing in top monies for the wantawaysand RK will be prove to be our best ever manager for at least the next 3 years. I thought I would be the first positive post on this thread and then I can draw all the pathetic flack from the doom and gloom merchants and pave the way for a sensible balanced discussion.
Now for the great re-build. Just watch our new signings come in during the next few days and over the next 5 weeks - then this may stop all the moaners and make some others less worried. Exciting times ahead for Saints with another top 10 finish. The board and our owner are doing a great job bringing in top monies for the wantawaysand RK will be prove to be our best ever manager for at least the next 3 years. I thought I would be the first positive post on this thread and then I can draw all the pathetic flack from the doom and gloom merchants and pave the way for a sensible balanced discussion. nomorerumours
  • Score: 30

10:26pm Sun 27 Jul 14

MattiusTheGreat says...

So far the Majority of players we've sold, we have replaced, I'm sure RoKo has a plan. I'm excited to see what lies ahead! COYR! Out with the old, in with the new!
So far the Majority of players we've sold, we have replaced, I'm sure RoKo has a plan. I'm excited to see what lies ahead! COYR! Out with the old, in with the new! MattiusTheGreat
  • Score: 36

10:27pm Sun 27 Jul 14

red/whitearmy says...

saints1998 wrote:
I can't help but think that relegation Is awaiting us. This is because our squad is probably the smallest in our history. We need at least 6 new players just to replace the ones that have left. Also I think that Liverpool will come in for Jay.
What , we have a squad with two new comers plus the youngters. What i saw at cherries was a bunch of lads who are tighter as a unit. Letting these arrogant big heads go might have done us a favour.
[quote][p][bold]saints1998[/bold] wrote: I can't help but think that relegation Is awaiting us. This is because our squad is probably the smallest in our history. We need at least 6 new players just to replace the ones that have left. Also I think that Liverpool will come in for Jay.[/p][/quote]What , we have a squad with two new comers plus the youngters. What i saw at cherries was a bunch of lads who are tighter as a unit. Letting these arrogant big heads go might have done us a favour. red/whitearmy
  • Score: 22

10:27pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Saint1972 says...

u bunch of mugs wrote:
Les Reed out simple as. Why do us saints fans sit back and take this.
No passion I suppose.
No brains is the answer .
[quote][p][bold]u bunch of mugs[/bold] wrote: Les Reed out simple as. Why do us saints fans sit back and take this. No passion I suppose.[/p][/quote]No brains is the answer . Saint1972
  • Score: 13

10:28pm Sun 27 Jul 14

nomorerumours says...

Norwegian Saint wrote:
This season we regroup and 2015/16 we push on.
If (and it's a big IF) we are in trouble at Christmas we open the bank and spend, this season is just to settle things again. The last five years have been better and better... now let's just consolidate our premier league status and look forward!
100% agree. Nice to see another genuine optimist.
[quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: This season we regroup and 2015/16 we push on. If (and it's a big IF) we are in trouble at Christmas we open the bank and spend, this season is just to settle things again. The last five years have been better and better... now let's just consolidate our premier league status and look forward![/p][/quote]100% agree. Nice to see another genuine optimist. nomorerumours
  • Score: 29

10:29pm Sun 27 Jul 14

nomorerumours says...

BumperSaint wrote:
Bought for 8.5 sold for 20 (potentially more), great bit of business. Just need to announce a decent CB in the next couple of days.....and I'll be more than happy. The guy would only damage team morale if he stayed, so let's get a fresh 8-10 mil (up for the cause) footballer bedded in ready for kick off...... In Ron we trust.
100% agree. Nice to see another genuine optimist.
[quote][p][bold]BumperSaint[/bold] wrote: Bought for 8.5 sold for 20 (potentially more), great bit of business. Just need to announce a decent CB in the next couple of days.....and I'll be more than happy. The guy would only damage team morale if he stayed, so let's get a fresh 8-10 mil (up for the cause) footballer bedded in ready for kick off...... In Ron we trust.[/p][/quote]100% agree. Nice to see another genuine optimist. nomorerumours
  • Score: 11

10:29pm Sun 27 Jul 14

red/whitearmy says...

u bunch of mugs wrote:
Les Reed out simple as. Why do us saints fans sit back and take this.
No passion I suppose.
Yeah right. Lets keep these players for the sake of it when there no longer want to play for us and watch them play **** . What is Reed meant to do then. And actually it is Koeman saying that any players who dont want to be here then he want pick them. We want players who want to play for us and these players didnt.
[quote][p][bold]u bunch of mugs[/bold] wrote: Les Reed out simple as. Why do us saints fans sit back and take this. No passion I suppose.[/p][/quote]Yeah right. Lets keep these players for the sake of it when there no longer want to play for us and watch them play **** . What is Reed meant to do then. And actually it is Koeman saying that any players who dont want to be here then he want pick them. We want players who want to play for us and these players didnt. red/whitearmy
  • Score: 23

10:30pm Sun 27 Jul 14

southcoast62 says...

Les bid 2.5 m tomorrow for messi put in the Paper doing all you can to bring in new players and sip another pimms
Heart and home more like pocket an fill
We will see what tomorrow brings
Coyr
Les bid 2.5 m tomorrow for messi put in the Paper doing all you can to bring in new players and sip another pimms Heart and home more like pocket an fill We will see what tomorrow brings Coyr southcoast62
  • Score: -39

10:30pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Saintsincethe60s wrote:
Let's cut out the cancer within our club, that was started by Cortese and continued by the slimy argie and move on with players that want to be here.

If there are any more then raise your head above the parapet and p!ss off, we don't want or need anybody without the right attitude at our club , we can rebuild with the over inflated fees
It wasn't started by Cortese.He was made aware that this was going to happen,couldn't do anything about it,and got out.Once the players and manager realised the "plan" was at an end,they all got out too.
[quote][p][bold]Saintsincethe60s[/bold] wrote: Let's cut out the cancer within our club, that was started by Cortese and continued by the slimy argie and move on with players that want to be here. If there are any more then raise your head above the parapet and p!ss off, we don't want or need anybody without the right attitude at our club , we can rebuild with the over inflated fees[/p][/quote]It wasn't started by Cortese.He was made aware that this was going to happen,couldn't do anything about it,and got out.Once the players and manager realised the "plan" was at an end,they all got out too. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 5

10:30pm Sun 27 Jul 14

SaintSherman says...

A good player last season but no space at the club for players with his attitude. Also with around a £12 million profit in one season shows a great bit of business as well.
Plenty of money to replace him and others just need to get transfers in soon before the season starts.
A good player last season but no space at the club for players with his attitude. Also with around a £12 million profit in one season shows a great bit of business as well. Plenty of money to replace him and others just need to get transfers in soon before the season starts. SaintSherman
  • Score: 31

10:31pm Sun 27 Jul 14

justaSaintsfan says...

Bazultra wrote:
Katerina OUT
And Katharina IN !!!
[quote][p][bold]Bazultra[/bold] wrote: Katerina OUT[/p][/quote]And Katharina IN !!! justaSaintsfan
  • Score: 32

10:31pm Sun 27 Jul 14

red/whitearmy says...

Bazultra wrote:
Katerina OUT
Shut up. Nothing she can do about it. Were doing business and selling the ones who dont want to play for us any more, sell them off make profits and replace them. simple. Not katharinas fault.
[quote][p][bold]Bazultra[/bold] wrote: Katerina OUT[/p][/quote]Shut up. Nothing she can do about it. Were doing business and selling the ones who dont want to play for us any more, sell them off make profits and replace them. simple. Not katharinas fault. red/whitearmy
  • Score: 41

10:33pm Sun 27 Jul 14

cpnhadock says...

Lovren is a c@&£ - I hope he suffers embarrassment after embarrassment at liverhampton!
He may think the saints fans should be more grateful but as far as in concerned the lack of any thanks to our great supporters from him says it all - he is scum. Atleast we mugged liverhampton again on the fee!

My main concern isn't the players leaving - as far as I'm concerned, the team needs to be koemans in order to get them to play for him.
However, with only a few weeks left - there isn't much time for new faces to be integrated into the team and ready to play as a unit.

Les Reed isn't covering himself in glory (not Ralph Krueger) - we don't expect to know who they are trying to sign but they should have done a much more accurate job of setting our expectations correctly.
Something like 'saints are receiving many significant offers for our top players - but don't worry we will only sell at way above market value'.
Atleast then it would not be so heart breaking to see them drop off one by one.

Still excited for the season but we need to get the new signings wrapped up this week to give RK some proper time with them before the season starts!

f@£& lovren!!

Coyr&ws
Lovren is a c@&£ - I hope he suffers embarrassment after embarrassment at liverhampton! He may think the saints fans should be more grateful but as far as in concerned the lack of any thanks to our great supporters from him says it all - he is scum. Atleast we mugged liverhampton again on the fee! My main concern isn't the players leaving - as far as I'm concerned, the team needs to be koemans in order to get them to play for him. However, with only a few weeks left - there isn't much time for new faces to be integrated into the team and ready to play as a unit. Les Reed isn't covering himself in glory (not Ralph Krueger) - we don't expect to know who they are trying to sign but they should have done a much more accurate job of setting our expectations correctly. Something like 'saints are receiving many significant offers for our top players - but don't worry we will only sell at way above market value'. Atleast then it would not be so heart breaking to see them drop off one by one. Still excited for the season but we need to get the new signings wrapped up this week to give RK some proper time with them before the season starts! f@£& lovren!! Coyr&ws cpnhadock
  • Score: 18

10:33pm Sun 27 Jul 14

justaSaintsfan says...

Whitton wrote:
Simple as this: a$$hole.
Is that where Lovren's head is, or is it already at Real Madrid?
[quote][p][bold]Whitton[/bold] wrote: Simple as this: a$$hole.[/p][/quote]Is that where Lovren's head is, or is it already at Real Madrid? justaSaintsfan
  • Score: 13

10:36pm Sun 27 Jul 14

red/whitearmy says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Saintsincethe60s wrote:
Let's cut out the cancer within our club, that was started by Cortese and continued by the slimy argie and move on with players that want to be here.

If there are any more then raise your head above the parapet and p!ss off, we don't want or need anybody without the right attitude at our club , we can rebuild with the over inflated fees
It wasn't started by Cortese.He was made aware that this was going to happen,couldn't do anything about it,and got out.Once the players and manager realised the "plan" was at an end,they all got out too.
Really , NC left because he did not get on with Katharina. He wanted to run the club him self and take it forward his way but with the Libherr's cash. They clashed. simple. The players dont want to know so **** to them.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintsincethe60s[/bold] wrote: Let's cut out the cancer within our club, that was started by Cortese and continued by the slimy argie and move on with players that want to be here. If there are any more then raise your head above the parapet and p!ss off, we don't want or need anybody without the right attitude at our club , we can rebuild with the over inflated fees[/p][/quote]It wasn't started by Cortese.He was made aware that this was going to happen,couldn't do anything about it,and got out.Once the players and manager realised the "plan" was at an end,they all got out too.[/p][/quote]Really , NC left because he did not get on with Katharina. He wanted to run the club him self and take it forward his way but with the Libherr's cash. They clashed. simple. The players dont want to know so **** to them. red/whitearmy
  • Score: 7

10:36pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Dorssaints says...

Signed him on a long term contract? That is what Lyon thought, that is what we thought! My money is him going within a year to a club that Liverpool play in the Champions league!
Signed him on a long term contract? That is what Lyon thought, that is what we thought! My money is him going within a year to a club that Liverpool play in the Champions league! Dorssaints
  • Score: 21

10:37pm Sun 27 Jul 14

nomorerumours says...

bbb001 wrote:
What a tosser, good riddence, lets now srart to rebuild the team with quality commited players not the sh*te that Cortese thought wre good ie Lovren, ramirez and Osvaldo. All awaste of spave.

Cant wait for Lovren to fail at Liverhampton, just remeber all those mistimed tacklres and penalties he was responsible for.
I agree with most of your comments but I think that RK may get just get the best out of Gaston where others failed. Did you see him in the 1st half against Bournemouth? Looked a totally different player linking up in midfield, covering a lot of ground, back tackling and moving forward with pace and purpose + linking up well with Tadic and Pelle. He missed the early pre-season due to World Cup duty etc. It would be great if he can finally re-pay the club with some good performances. It is also a good sign that RK can get the team to gel so quickly.
[quote][p][bold]bbb001[/bold] wrote: What a tosser, good riddence, lets now srart to rebuild the team with quality commited players not the sh*te that Cortese thought wre good ie Lovren, ramirez and Osvaldo. All awaste of spave. Cant wait for Lovren to fail at Liverhampton, just remeber all those mistimed tacklres and penalties he was responsible for.[/p][/quote]I agree with most of your comments but I think that RK may get just get the best out of Gaston where others failed. Did you see him in the 1st half against Bournemouth? Looked a totally different player linking up in midfield, covering a lot of ground, back tackling and moving forward with pace and purpose + linking up well with Tadic and Pelle. He missed the early pre-season due to World Cup duty etc. It would be great if he can finally re-pay the club with some good performances. It is also a good sign that RK can get the team to gel so quickly. nomorerumours
  • Score: 20

10:38pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Vaurion says...

First sale this summer that I'm honestly happy about. Good riddance to the slimy, underhanded piece of garbage. (The 11.5m profit after one year doesn't hurt either.)
First sale this summer that I'm honestly happy about. Good riddance to the slimy, underhanded piece of garbage. (The 11.5m profit after one year doesn't hurt either.) Vaurion
  • Score: 32

10:39pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Positively4thStreet says...

red/whitearmy wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Saintsincethe60s wrote:
Let's cut out the cancer within our club, that was started by Cortese and continued by the slimy argie and move on with players that want to be here.

If there are any more then raise your head above the parapet and p!ss off, we don't want or need anybody without the right attitude at our club , we can rebuild with the over inflated fees
It wasn't started by Cortese.He was made aware that this was going to happen,couldn't do anything about it,and got out.Once the players and manager realised the "plan" was at an end,they all got out too.
Really , NC left because he did not get on with Katharina. He wanted to run the club him self and take it forward his way but with the Libherr's cash. They clashed. simple. The players dont want to know so **** to them.
Same thing.
[quote][p][bold]red/whitearmy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintsincethe60s[/bold] wrote: Let's cut out the cancer within our club, that was started by Cortese and continued by the slimy argie and move on with players that want to be here. If there are any more then raise your head above the parapet and p!ss off, we don't want or need anybody without the right attitude at our club , we can rebuild with the over inflated fees[/p][/quote]It wasn't started by Cortese.He was made aware that this was going to happen,couldn't do anything about it,and got out.Once the players and manager realised the "plan" was at an end,they all got out too.[/p][/quote]Really , NC left because he did not get on with Katharina. He wanted to run the club him self and take it forward his way but with the Libherr's cash. They clashed. simple. The players dont want to know so **** to them.[/p][/quote]Same thing. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 8

10:40pm Sun 27 Jul 14

berry boy says...

100 per cent on pitch 0 per cent loyal
100 per cent on pitch 0 per cent loyal berry boy
  • Score: 8

10:40pm Sun 27 Jul 14

steekeemcglue says...

fcuk off Lovren,,,, bravo Saints... Easy to get CBs for half that money... anyone who criticises Saints over this is not a real fan. You may buy the cheap sh1t that passes for a kit ( thanks Nicola for that one ) but you are not a real fan... keep your gobs shut until this all pans out and respect the people that made Premiership football a reality in the first place.... that will be the owners.
fcuk off Lovren,,,, bravo Saints... Easy to get CBs for half that money... anyone who criticises Saints over this is not a real fan. You may buy the cheap sh1t that passes for a kit ( thanks Nicola for that one ) but you are not a real fan... keep your gobs shut until this all pans out and respect the people that made Premiership football a reality in the first place.... that will be the owners. steekeemcglue
  • Score: 8

10:41pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Jesus_02 says...

Saintsincethe60s wrote:
Let's cut out the cancer within our club, that was started by Cortese and continued by the slimy argie and move on with players that want to be here.

If there are any more then raise your head above the parapet and p!ss off, we don't want or need anybody without the right attitude at our club , we can rebuild with the over inflated fees
Spot on...Cortese completly ruined our once proud league 1 team! Unbelievable!
[quote][p][bold]Saintsincethe60s[/bold] wrote: Let's cut out the cancer within our club, that was started by Cortese and continued by the slimy argie and move on with players that want to be here. If there are any more then raise your head above the parapet and p!ss off, we don't want or need anybody without the right attitude at our club , we can rebuild with the over inflated fees[/p][/quote]Spot on...Cortese completly ruined our once proud league 1 team! Unbelievable! Jesus_02
  • Score: 10

10:42pm Sun 27 Jul 14

nomorerumours says...

red/whitearmy wrote:
What the hell is wrong with some fans. These players want to sod off and are no longer interested in playing for us so what are we supposed to do. Were selling them for higher profits , Pelle and Stadic are in , . So some of you would rather us keep players who no longer want to play for us. These players have **** on us and some on here want to blame the club. As far as im concerned to hell with the players who are not interested. We can have players who are interested and hungry. Not the clubs fault.
100% agree.
[quote][p][bold]red/whitearmy[/bold] wrote: What the hell is wrong with some fans. These players want to sod off and are no longer interested in playing for us so what are we supposed to do. Were selling them for higher profits , Pelle and Stadic are in , . So some of you would rather us keep players who no longer want to play for us. These players have **** on us and some on here want to blame the club. As far as im concerned to hell with the players who are not interested. We can have players who are interested and hungry. Not the clubs fault.[/p][/quote]100% agree. nomorerumours
  • Score: 4

10:43pm Sun 27 Jul 14

exiledinyork says...

I rarely post, but often look at DE comments. Can we all just take deep breath? Lambert, absolute star who no one can begrudge a dream move to home town team. Adam "You've changed" Lallana being sold for at least £10M over market price after one good PL season. Shaw, £27M with Targett, who is a technically better LB in the wings. Chambers for £16M or around 700K a game (22 apps so far). Lovren; agitated a move from Lyon; agitated a move to Liverpool. £15M profit for a mercenary. Don't want Spider to go but pleased he's kept his trap shut .
Look on the bright side. If Kat wanted to sell she would have done two years ago. RK is a class appointment. The pipeline continues. (JWP, Targett, McQueen, Reed, Flannigan, McCarthy, Gallagher, Isgrove, Stephens, Sinclair). Two years ago who had heard of the £27M Shaw or the £16M Chambers. The point is that I absolutey feckin love this club and, despite what has happened this year, I do not ever ever ever want to go back to the days of Lowe and absolutely not the days of Branfoot, the genius who preferred "Oooh" Terry Hurlock to MLT.
The message from this Saints Til I Die of 40+ years standing is be careful what you wish for, look towards an amazing future and never ever believe what the red tops say. Word!
I rarely post, but often look at DE comments. Can we all just take deep breath? Lambert, absolute star who no one can begrudge a dream move to home town team. Adam "You've changed" Lallana being sold for at least £10M over market price after one good PL season. Shaw, £27M with Targett, who is a technically better LB in the wings. Chambers for £16M or around 700K a game (22 apps so far). Lovren; agitated a move from Lyon; agitated a move to Liverpool. £15M profit for a mercenary. Don't want Spider to go but pleased he's kept his trap shut . Look on the bright side. If Kat wanted to sell she would have done two years ago. RK is a class appointment. The pipeline continues. (JWP, Targett, McQueen, Reed, Flannigan, McCarthy, Gallagher, Isgrove, Stephens, Sinclair). Two years ago who had heard of the £27M Shaw or the £16M Chambers. The point is that I absolutey feckin love this club and, despite what has happened this year, I do not ever ever ever want to go back to the days of Lowe and absolutely not the days of Branfoot, the genius who preferred "Oooh" Terry Hurlock to MLT. The message from this Saints Til I Die of 40+ years standing is be careful what you wish for, look towards an amazing future and never ever believe what the red tops say. Word! exiledinyork
  • Score: 92

10:43pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Spanish Santo says...

I hope to god that we aren't going the same way that we did with the last board to hold the ropes. As much as it 8s painful to keep seeing players leave we do need to remember that we still have a great team left. Jack Cork should be given a lot of credit for last season and Davis. They were the engine room of the team. Clyne was a class act and I think that Ramires may surprise us all now that Lallana is going to be found to be a one trick pony at Liverhampton. We still need to keep looking forward and support the club as ever and hope to god that Katarina is as honest and trustworthy as her father. Please....if any of the influential board members ever read our comments, know that we will forever be indebted to the Leibher family and we just want to see some positive news coming through in the next few weeks...one last request...please offer huge bonuses to the team to win against the yids and Liverhampton ;)
I hope to god that we aren't going the same way that we did with the last board to hold the ropes. As much as it 8s painful to keep seeing players leave we do need to remember that we still have a great team left. Jack Cork should be given a lot of credit for last season and Davis. They were the engine room of the team. Clyne was a class act and I think that Ramires may surprise us all now that Lallana is going to be found to be a one trick pony at Liverhampton. We still need to keep looking forward and support the club as ever and hope to god that Katarina is as honest and trustworthy as her father. Please....if any of the influential board members ever read our comments, know that we will forever be indebted to the Leibher family and we just want to see some positive news coming through in the next few weeks...one last request...please offer huge bonuses to the team to win against the yids and Liverhampton ;) Spanish Santo
  • Score: 37

10:46pm Sun 27 Jul 14

nomorerumours says...

nomorerumours wrote:
Now for the great re-build. Just watch our new signings come in during the next few days and over the next 5 weeks - then this may stop all the moaners and make some others less worried. Exciting times ahead for Saints with another top 10 finish. The board and our owner are doing a great job bringing in top monies for the wantawaysand RK will be prove to be our best ever manager for at least the next 3 years. I thought I would be the first positive post on this thread and then I can draw all the pathetic flack from the doom and gloom merchants and pave the way for a sensible balanced discussion.
My plan is already working! Most thumbs down so far. Now lets have a positive and decent about all the signing we are mulling over.
[quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: Now for the great re-build. Just watch our new signings come in during the next few days and over the next 5 weeks - then this may stop all the moaners and make some others less worried. Exciting times ahead for Saints with another top 10 finish. The board and our owner are doing a great job bringing in top monies for the wantawaysand RK will be prove to be our best ever manager for at least the next 3 years. I thought I would be the first positive post on this thread and then I can draw all the pathetic flack from the doom and gloom merchants and pave the way for a sensible balanced discussion.[/p][/quote]My plan is already working! Most thumbs down so far. Now lets have a positive and decent about all the signing we are mulling over. nomorerumours
  • Score: 0

10:46pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Jesus_02 says...

steekeemcglue wrote:
fcuk off Lovren,,,, bravo Saints... Easy to get CBs for half that money... anyone who criticises Saints over this is not a real fan. You may buy the cheap sh1t that passes for a kit ( thanks Nicola for that one ) but you are not a real fan... keep your gobs shut until this all pans out and respect the people that made Premiership football a reality in the first place.... that will be the owners.
Anyone that agree's with this t1t is not a real fan. He is obviously the sort if person that backs up his opinion with "FACT". What has Cortese got to do with the kit he was forced out before we decided to "make our own" (I actually think they are ok) . They are red and white FACT
[quote][p][bold]steekeemcglue[/bold] wrote: fcuk off Lovren,,,, bravo Saints... Easy to get CBs for half that money... anyone who criticises Saints over this is not a real fan. You may buy the cheap sh1t that passes for a kit ( thanks Nicola for that one ) but you are not a real fan... keep your gobs shut until this all pans out and respect the people that made Premiership football a reality in the first place.... that will be the owners.[/p][/quote]Anyone that agree's with this t1t is not a real fan. He is obviously the sort if person that backs up his opinion with "FACT". What has Cortese got to do with the kit he was forced out before we decided to "make our own" (I actually think they are ok) . They are red and white FACT Jesus_02
  • Score: -4

10:47pm Sun 27 Jul 14

BigBugBuzzz says...

I think we are getting some great prices, to be honest. Now our success hinges on our capability to accurately evaluate and sign great new talent at good prices. I hope we have what it takes!

Fingers crossed!
I think we are getting some great prices, to be honest. Now our success hinges on our capability to accurately evaluate and sign great new talent at good prices. I hope we have what it takes! Fingers crossed! BigBugBuzzz
  • Score: 19

10:47pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Stroppy_gramps says...

welp, another nice chunk of money for the pot. I am seriously going to p1ss myself laughing if Diverpool don't win anything next season.

Anyways, back to the important club - Saints.
Time for the signings to start coming in please, we've got plenty in the pot so lets make a few more signings and then keep an eye out for the next transfer window.

going to be a great season.
welp, another nice chunk of money for the pot. I am seriously going to p1ss myself laughing if Diverpool don't win anything next season. Anyways, back to the important club - Saints. Time for the signings to start coming in please, we've got plenty in the pot so lets make a few more signings and then keep an eye out for the next transfer window. going to be a great season. Stroppy_gramps
  • Score: 19

10:48pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Stroppy_gramps says...

and just another point - the length of the statement from the club speaks volumes.
and just another point - the length of the statement from the club speaks volumes. Stroppy_gramps
  • Score: 18

10:48pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Columbo's Glass Eye says...

Let's all just pause for one second and remember how brilliant life was with Adkins at the helm. He built the quality team we still have the remnants of today. Thanks Nigel. All your hard work is going down the pan. Anyway, moving on. Koemans basically got a very small amount of time lo get the supporters excited again. I think he'll do it. The players lost are a shame but better now than giving any less than 100% on the pitch. My worry is that we may be narrow minded and only be looking for players he knows personally or dutch players. There are millions of good players out there so come on Les lets sign 2-3 and have a great season.
Let's all just pause for one second and remember how brilliant life was with Adkins at the helm. He built the quality team we still have the remnants of today. Thanks Nigel. All your hard work is going down the pan. Anyway, moving on. Koemans basically got a very small amount of time lo get the supporters excited again. I think he'll do it. The players lost are a shame but better now than giving any less than 100% on the pitch. My worry is that we may be narrow minded and only be looking for players he knows personally or dutch players. There are millions of good players out there so come on Les lets sign 2-3 and have a great season. Columbo's Glass Eye
  • Score: 14

10:50pm Sun 27 Jul 14

bullsbags says...

It's all very well going on about 10 mill proffit but that means nothing to me,I don't get a cut. It only means anything if it's reinvested in the squad
Personally I don't think half of what comes in will be reinvested,I hope I'm wrong
It's all very well going on about 10 mill proffit but that means nothing to me,I don't get a cut. It only means anything if it's reinvested in the squad Personally I don't think half of what comes in will be reinvested,I hope I'm wrong bullsbags
  • Score: 16

10:50pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Jan28th1984 says...

Selling players who don't want to be here for a profit on what we paid for them is good business.

Not replacing them is not good business.

At the moment it seems the club is hovering between the two.
This close season has been a bit disappointing in terms of player departures, but the two lads we have got in look class.

Even after all this negativity and perturbation I have still got this feeling that Ron Koeman has got it all under control and we will see some new signings soon.
We'd better had - we need them quick - now we need TWO CBs......
Selling players who don't want to be here for a profit on what we paid for them is good business. Not replacing them is not good business. At the moment it seems the club is hovering between the two. This close season has been a bit disappointing in terms of player departures, but the two lads we have got in look class. Even after all this negativity and perturbation I have still got this feeling that Ron Koeman has got it all under control and we will see some new signings soon. We'd better had - we need them quick - now we need TWO CBs...... Jan28th1984
  • Score: 23

10:51pm Sun 27 Jul 14

nomorerumours says...

red/whitearmy wrote:
saints1998 wrote:
I can't help but think that relegation Is awaiting us. This is because our squad is probably the smallest in our history. We need at least 6 new players just to replace the ones that have left. Also I think that Liverpool will come in for Jay.
What , we have a squad with two new comers plus the youngters. What i saw at cherries was a bunch of lads who are tighter as a unit. Letting these arrogant big heads go might have done us a favour.
Great post red/whitearmy. I was very impressed the team, especially the 1st half display
[quote][p][bold]red/whitearmy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saints1998[/bold] wrote: I can't help but think that relegation Is awaiting us. This is because our squad is probably the smallest in our history. We need at least 6 new players just to replace the ones that have left. Also I think that Liverpool will come in for Jay.[/p][/quote]What , we have a squad with two new comers plus the youngters. What i saw at cherries was a bunch of lads who are tighter as a unit. Letting these arrogant big heads go might have done us a favour.[/p][/quote]Great post red/whitearmy. I was very impressed the team, especially the 1st half display nomorerumours
  • Score: 0

10:52pm Sun 27 Jul 14

nomorerumours says...

MattiusTheGreat wrote:
So far the Majority of players we've sold, we have replaced, I'm sure RoKo has a plan. I'm excited to see what lies ahead! COYR! Out with the old, in with the new!
100% agree. Nice to see another genuine optimist.
[quote][p][bold]MattiusTheGreat[/bold] wrote: So far the Majority of players we've sold, we have replaced, I'm sure RoKo has a plan. I'm excited to see what lies ahead! COYR! Out with the old, in with the new![/p][/quote]100% agree. Nice to see another genuine optimist. nomorerumours
  • Score: 1

10:53pm Sun 27 Jul 14

BigBugBuzzz says...

Looking back to last season's start, how many remember how excited we were at our amazing new ability to spend 12 million pounds on one player?

Well, ever player we are selling is going for almost double that! I seriously think these players are being sold at above fair value!

If we are intelligent investors, we might actually replace these players and have tens of millions left over!

Our future could be secured, not ruined, by the events of summer 2014!

C'mon Board, don't let us down. I for one will try to relax until the end of the window, and hope to see a clear path to something great!
Looking back to last season's start, how many remember how excited we were at our amazing new ability to spend 12 million pounds on one player? Well, ever player we are selling is going for almost double that! I seriously think these players are being sold at above fair value! If we are intelligent investors, we might actually replace these players and have tens of millions left over! Our future could be secured, not ruined, by the events of summer 2014! C'mon Board, don't let us down. I for one will try to relax until the end of the window, and hope to see a clear path to something great! BigBugBuzzz
  • Score: 18

10:54pm Sun 27 Jul 14

jls217 says...

u bunch of mugs wrote:
Les Reed out simple as. Why do us saints fans sit back and take this.
No passion I suppose.
Because most of us have common sense. So swim off down the sewer to your end of the M27 and beat yourself up at how our team is going to spend all that money.
I can understand the rivalry and even to some extent the level of hatred. What I really don't understand is why someone would go to such lengths to try to get another bloke the sack.
I guess it's the measure of the man really isn't it, and you're not much of a man really are you?
[quote][p][bold]u bunch of mugs[/bold] wrote: Les Reed out simple as. Why do us saints fans sit back and take this. No passion I suppose.[/p][/quote]Because most of us have common sense. So swim off down the sewer to your end of the M27 and beat yourself up at how our team is going to spend all that money. I can understand the rivalry and even to some extent the level of hatred. What I really don't understand is why someone would go to such lengths to try to get another bloke the sack. I guess it's the measure of the man really isn't it, and you're not much of a man really are you? jls217
  • Score: 15

10:54pm Sun 27 Jul 14

saint-callum says...

Glad these players have gone the only one anybody should have respect for is ricky.les reed out and the ice hockey tw@t aswell. Need to start spending and bringing in players that have got experiance and who are proven match winners.if this doesn't happen soon we are in serious trouble.yes the youth that are coming through the academy are good players but we can not compete with inexperiance.I think katerina is selling up at christmas!!! Hopefully get some good news this week and hopefully some idea with what is happening at are club and forget about the money grabbing *****rs that have left.COYR
Glad these players have gone the only one anybody should have respect for is ricky.les reed out and the ice hockey tw@t aswell. Need to start spending and bringing in players that have got experiance and who are proven match winners.if this doesn't happen soon we are in serious trouble.yes the youth that are coming through the academy are good players but we can not compete with inexperiance.I think katerina is selling up at christmas!!! Hopefully get some good news this week and hopefully some idea with what is happening at are club and forget about the money grabbing *****rs that have left.COYR saint-callum
  • Score: -20

10:56pm Sun 27 Jul 14

jls217 says...

saints1998 wrote:
I can't help but think that relegation Is awaiting us. This is because our squad is probably the smallest in our history. We need at least 6 new players just to replace the ones that have left. Also I think that Liverpool will come in for Jay.
We're not going to be relegated but I suspect if JRod is offered the same sort of money the others are making his agent will make sure his head is turned and he'll be off. Hope I'm wrong but if that's what he wants so be it - nothing any of us can do about it.
[quote][p][bold]saints1998[/bold] wrote: I can't help but think that relegation Is awaiting us. This is because our squad is probably the smallest in our history. We need at least 6 new players just to replace the ones that have left. Also I think that Liverpool will come in for Jay.[/p][/quote]We're not going to be relegated but I suspect if JRod is offered the same sort of money the others are making his agent will make sure his head is turned and he'll be off. Hope I'm wrong but if that's what he wants so be it - nothing any of us can do about it. jls217
  • Score: -4

10:57pm Sun 27 Jul 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

oh dear the wums thought that the fans would be angry at the club about this move, total fail!
if the fans are angry it is with dejerk, a money grabbing big headed a hole. 1 season and not long into it his heads disappeared, was found by Brenda at anyplayerfield after he scored the winner for us. well as far as I`m concerned that win will from now on be as the result of an own goal!
cant wait until we play them and pelle constantly puts him on his ar$e!

this move hasn't come fast enough for me should have told him not to bother turning up for training! we didn't need him at training telling the others all about his lovely move and how much money hes going to get.

breaking news,
dejerk lovehimself has put in a transfer request at liverhampton after saying the club has lost its ambition due to selling its best player, hes quoted as saying his heads been at the camp nou after having a tour on his summer holiday, I`ve always dreamed of playing at a club capable of winning the champions league he is reported to have said!
oh dear the wums thought that the fans would be angry at the club about this move, total fail! if the fans are angry it is with dejerk, a money grabbing big headed a hole. 1 season and not long into it his heads disappeared, was found by Brenda at anyplayerfield after he scored the winner for us. well as far as I`m concerned that win will from now on be as the result of an own goal! cant wait until we play them and pelle constantly puts him on his ar$e! this move hasn't come fast enough for me should have told him not to bother turning up for training! we didn't need him at training telling the others all about his lovely move and how much money hes going to get. breaking news, dejerk lovehimself has put in a transfer request at liverhampton after saying the club has lost its ambition due to selling its best player, hes quoted as saying his heads been at the camp nou after having a tour on his summer holiday, I`ve always dreamed of playing at a club capable of winning the champions league he is reported to have said! de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 17

10:58pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Jesus_02 says...

The club has promised transparency and open communications. They have delivered lies and undesclosed transfer fees. Either other teams are tapping players up or we are just not being told that fees have been agreed. I understand that you don't want to let teams you are buying from now how much money we have but it's pretty obvious its a lot. The exceptionaly short note on the website saying he left for a significant fee is simply not enough.
The club has promised transparency and open communications. They have delivered lies and undesclosed transfer fees. Either other teams are tapping players up or we are just not being told that fees have been agreed. I understand that you don't want to let teams you are buying from now how much money we have but it's pretty obvious its a lot. The exceptionaly short note on the website saying he left for a significant fee is simply not enough. Jesus_02
  • Score: -14

10:58pm Sun 27 Jul 14

nomorerumours says...

SaintSherman wrote:
A good player last season but no space at the club for players with his attitude. Also with around a £12 million profit in one season shows a great bit of business as well.
Plenty of money to replace him and others just need to get transfers in soon before the season starts.
100% agree and we will have a competitive team for the coming season.
[quote][p][bold]SaintSherman[/bold] wrote: A good player last season but no space at the club for players with his attitude. Also with around a £12 million profit in one season shows a great bit of business as well. Plenty of money to replace him and others just need to get transfers in soon before the season starts.[/p][/quote]100% agree and we will have a competitive team for the coming season. nomorerumours
  • Score: 1

10:59pm Sun 27 Jul 14

jls217 says...

BumperSaint wrote:
Bought for 8.5 sold for 20 (potentially more), great bit of business. Just need to announce a decent CB in the next couple of days.....and I'll be more than happy. The guy would only damage team morale if he stayed, so let's get a fresh 8-10 mil (up for the cause) footballer bedded in ready for kick off...... In Ron we trust.
Agree but I think we now need two CB's.
[quote][p][bold]BumperSaint[/bold] wrote: Bought for 8.5 sold for 20 (potentially more), great bit of business. Just need to announce a decent CB in the next couple of days.....and I'll be more than happy. The guy would only damage team morale if he stayed, so let's get a fresh 8-10 mil (up for the cause) footballer bedded in ready for kick off...... In Ron we trust.[/p][/quote]Agree but I think we now need two CB's. jls217
  • Score: 3

11:00pm Sun 27 Jul 14

BigBugBuzzz says...

Stroppy_gramps wrote:
and just another point - the length of the statement from the club speaks volumes.
I noticed too, very short. But what did come across was the idea that Liverpool paid too much according to out number crunchers. I hope ours are better than theirs!
[quote][p][bold]Stroppy_gramps[/bold] wrote: and just another point - the length of the statement from the club speaks volumes.[/p][/quote]I noticed too, very short. But what did come across was the idea that Liverpool paid too much according to out number crunchers. I hope ours are better than theirs! BigBugBuzzz
  • Score: 13

11:00pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Gormzzz says...

Great statement for the fans on the official site! I've wrote ten times longer on here.
Great statement for the fans on the official site! I've wrote ten times longer on here. Gormzzz
  • Score: -3

11:00pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Block 42 says...

red/whitearmy wrote:
What the hell is wrong with some fans. These players want to sod off and are no longer interested in playing for us so what are we supposed to do. Were selling them for higher profits , Pelle and Stadic are in , . So some of you would rather us keep players who no longer want to play for us. These players have **** on us and some on here want to blame the club. As far as im concerned to hell with the players who are not interested. We can have players who are interested and hungry. Not the clubs fault.
Great tadic and pelle...whilst ripping apart the entire spine and showing no ambition to keep poch...bet they will not spend the 100 plus million we aquire for these players.its a massive fail from a board who know nothing about football/soccer.I couldn't imagine man city chelsea man u psg napoli real mad barca or any other club who runs a tight business to carry on this way..its unprofessional and shows a massive middle finger to the fans.
[quote][p][bold]red/whitearmy[/bold] wrote: What the hell is wrong with some fans. These players want to sod off and are no longer interested in playing for us so what are we supposed to do. Were selling them for higher profits , Pelle and Stadic are in , . So some of you would rather us keep players who no longer want to play for us. These players have **** on us and some on here want to blame the club. As far as im concerned to hell with the players who are not interested. We can have players who are interested and hungry. Not the clubs fault.[/p][/quote]Great tadic and pelle...whilst ripping apart the entire spine and showing no ambition to keep poch...bet they will not spend the 100 plus million we aquire for these players.its a massive fail from a board who know nothing about football/soccer.I couldn't imagine man city chelsea man u psg napoli real mad barca or any other club who runs a tight business to carry on this way..its unprofessional and shows a massive middle finger to the fans. Block 42
  • Score: -15

11:02pm Sun 27 Jul 14

jls217 says...

Bazultra wrote:
Katerina OUT
Stupid boy.
[quote][p][bold]Bazultra[/bold] wrote: Katerina OUT[/p][/quote]Stupid boy. jls217
  • Score: 6

11:04pm Sun 27 Jul 14

steekeemcglue says...

Jesus_02 wrote:
steekeemcglue wrote:
fcuk off Lovren,,,, bravo Saints... Easy to get CBs for half that money... anyone who criticises Saints over this is not a real fan. You may buy the cheap sh1t that passes for a kit ( thanks Nicola for that one ) but you are not a real fan... keep your gobs shut until this all pans out and respect the people that made Premiership football a reality in the first place.... that will be the owners.
Anyone that agree's with this t1t is not a real fan. He is obviously the sort if person that backs up his opinion with "FACT". What has Cortese got to do with the kit he was forced out before we decided to "make our own" (I actually think they are ok) . They are red and white FACT
you are a stupid tawt.... get your facts right on at least the very basic level... I know football fans get stereotyped as being thick as sh1t but there is no need for you to prove it....
[quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]steekeemcglue[/bold] wrote: fcuk off Lovren,,,, bravo Saints... Easy to get CBs for half that money... anyone who criticises Saints over this is not a real fan. You may buy the cheap sh1t that passes for a kit ( thanks Nicola for that one ) but you are not a real fan... keep your gobs shut until this all pans out and respect the people that made Premiership football a reality in the first place.... that will be the owners.[/p][/quote]Anyone that agree's with this t1t is not a real fan. He is obviously the sort if person that backs up his opinion with "FACT". What has Cortese got to do with the kit he was forced out before we decided to "make our own" (I actually think they are ok) . They are red and white FACT[/p][/quote]you are a stupid tawt.... get your facts right on at least the very basic level... I know football fans get stereotyped as being thick as sh1t but there is no need for you to prove it.... steekeemcglue
  • Score: -22

11:04pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Saint1972 says...

jls217 wrote:
Bazultra wrote:
Katerina OUT
Stupid boy.
Moron
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Bazultra[/bold] wrote: Katerina OUT[/p][/quote]Stupid boy.[/p][/quote]Moron Saint1972
  • Score: 30

11:06pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Gormzzz says...

Will be a fun season to manage the Saints on FM thats the only positive I can find. Tons of youngsters for the first team, and they'll probably let us spend MOST of the money we've received on transfers. All the people saying these we're just rumours and we shouldn't say anything negative on the subject until it's fact, can we be pessimistic now or do we still have to feel good. Lovren's a £20 mil bargain if we shell out £8 for Pelle and £9 for Forster. I'd love to see De Vrij and Classie signed tomorrow, maybe Depay if J Rod goes, would be nice if at all realistic.
Will be a fun season to manage the Saints on FM thats the only positive I can find. Tons of youngsters for the first team, and they'll probably let us spend MOST of the money we've received on transfers. All the people saying these we're just rumours and we shouldn't say anything negative on the subject until it's fact, can we be pessimistic now or do we still have to feel good. Lovren's a £20 mil bargain if we shell out £8 for Pelle and £9 for Forster. I'd love to see De Vrij and Classie signed tomorrow, maybe Depay if J Rod goes, would be nice if at all realistic. Gormzzz
  • Score: 10

11:06pm Sun 27 Jul 14

jls217 says...

bathsaints wrote:
was/is a quality player and we are really going to miss him especially if we don't replace soon...2 cb's asap but they have to be quality. His attitude stinks though, what a money-grabbing, greedy a-hole. I really hope liverpool fail this season...come on board whats going on...we have money to spend and yet while other teams of similar size are strengthening well we seem to be dithering...I hope big Ron is fully backed by the board and that he isn't beginning to wonder what he's signed up to!
Logic dictates there are players who will be in place before tranfers deadline.
[quote][p][bold]bathsaints[/bold] wrote: was/is a quality player and we are really going to miss him especially if we don't replace soon...2 cb's asap but they have to be quality. His attitude stinks though, what a money-grabbing, greedy a-hole. I really hope liverpool fail this season...come on board whats going on...we have money to spend and yet while other teams of similar size are strengthening well we seem to be dithering...I hope big Ron is fully backed by the board and that he isn't beginning to wonder what he's signed up to![/p][/quote]Logic dictates there are players who will be in place before tranfers deadline. jls217
  • Score: -9

11:07pm Sun 27 Jul 14

nomorerumours says...

exiledinyork wrote:
I rarely post, but often look at DE comments. Can we all just take deep breath? Lambert, absolute star who no one can begrudge a dream move to home town team. Adam "You've changed" Lallana being sold for at least £10M over market price after one good PL season. Shaw, £27M with Targett, who is a technically better LB in the wings. Chambers for £16M or around 700K a game (22 apps so far). Lovren; agitated a move from Lyon; agitated a move to Liverpool. £15M profit for a mercenary. Don't want Spider to go but pleased he's kept his trap shut .
Look on the bright side. If Kat wanted to sell she would have done two years ago. RK is a class appointment. The pipeline continues. (JWP, Targett, McQueen, Reed, Flannigan, McCarthy, Gallagher, Isgrove, Stephens, Sinclair). Two years ago who had heard of the £27M Shaw or the £16M Chambers. The point is that I absolutey feckin love this club and, despite what has happened this year, I do not ever ever ever want to go back to the days of Lowe and absolutely not the days of Branfoot, the genius who preferred "Oooh" Terry Hurlock to MLT.
The message from this Saints Til I Die of 40+ years standing is be careful what you wish for, look towards an amazing future and never ever believe what the red tops say. Word!
100% agree.
[quote][p][bold]exiledinyork[/bold] wrote: I rarely post, but often look at DE comments. Can we all just take deep breath? Lambert, absolute star who no one can begrudge a dream move to home town team. Adam "You've changed" Lallana being sold for at least £10M over market price after one good PL season. Shaw, £27M with Targett, who is a technically better LB in the wings. Chambers for £16M or around 700K a game (22 apps so far). Lovren; agitated a move from Lyon; agitated a move to Liverpool. £15M profit for a mercenary. Don't want Spider to go but pleased he's kept his trap shut . Look on the bright side. If Kat wanted to sell she would have done two years ago. RK is a class appointment. The pipeline continues. (JWP, Targett, McQueen, Reed, Flannigan, McCarthy, Gallagher, Isgrove, Stephens, Sinclair). Two years ago who had heard of the £27M Shaw or the £16M Chambers. The point is that I absolutey feckin love this club and, despite what has happened this year, I do not ever ever ever want to go back to the days of Lowe and absolutely not the days of Branfoot, the genius who preferred "Oooh" Terry Hurlock to MLT. The message from this Saints Til I Die of 40+ years standing is be careful what you wish for, look towards an amazing future and never ever believe what the red tops say. Word![/p][/quote]100% agree. nomorerumours
  • Score: -5

11:08pm Sun 27 Jul 14

jls217 says...

red/whitearmy wrote:
What the hell is wrong with some fans. These players want to sod off and are no longer interested in playing for us so what are we supposed to do. Were selling them for higher profits , Pelle and Stadic are in , . So some of you would rather us keep players who no longer want to play for us. These players have **** on us and some on here want to blame the club. As far as im concerned to hell with the players who are not interested. We can have players who are interested and hungry. Not the clubs fault.
Red - I love it when you get angry especially when you are spot on the money.
[quote][p][bold]red/whitearmy[/bold] wrote: What the hell is wrong with some fans. These players want to sod off and are no longer interested in playing for us so what are we supposed to do. Were selling them for higher profits , Pelle and Stadic are in , . So some of you would rather us keep players who no longer want to play for us. These players have **** on us and some on here want to blame the club. As far as im concerned to hell with the players who are not interested. We can have players who are interested and hungry. Not the clubs fault.[/p][/quote]Red - I love it when you get angry especially when you are spot on the money. jls217
  • Score: 4

11:08pm Sun 27 Jul 14

BigBugBuzzz says...

exiledinyork wrote:
I rarely post, but often look at DE comments. Can we all just take deep breath? Lambert, absolute star who no one can begrudge a dream move to home town team. Adam "You've changed" Lallana being sold for at least £10M over market price after one good PL season. Shaw, £27M with Targett, who is a technically better LB in the wings. Chambers for £16M or around 700K a game (22 apps so far). Lovren; agitated a move from Lyon; agitated a move to Liverpool. £15M profit for a mercenary. Don't want Spider to go but pleased he's kept his trap shut .
Look on the bright side. If Kat wanted to sell she would have done two years ago. RK is a class appointment. The pipeline continues. (JWP, Targett, McQueen, Reed, Flannigan, McCarthy, Gallagher, Isgrove, Stephens, Sinclair). Two years ago who had heard of the £27M Shaw or the £16M Chambers. The point is that I absolutey feckin love this club and, despite what has happened this year, I do not ever ever ever want to go back to the days of Lowe and absolutely not the days of Branfoot, the genius who preferred "Oooh" Terry Hurlock to MLT.
The message from this Saints Til I Die of 40+ years standing is be careful what you wish for, look towards an amazing future and never ever believe what the red tops say. Word!
I agree! I **** love our club too, and the capabilities we have at raising such a wonderful stream of class footballers! May we never lose that, which is the heart of our club!

I am strange positive tonight, compared to my gloomy mood just the other day.

I think it's because I feel we have some great signings to be revealed soon, and because genuinely feel that despite the raids, we still have great, great talent... I think Liverpool missed the Targett to be honest, excuse the pun!
[quote][p][bold]exiledinyork[/bold] wrote: I rarely post, but often look at DE comments. Can we all just take deep breath? Lambert, absolute star who no one can begrudge a dream move to home town team. Adam "You've changed" Lallana being sold for at least £10M over market price after one good PL season. Shaw, £27M with Targett, who is a technically better LB in the wings. Chambers for £16M or around 700K a game (22 apps so far). Lovren; agitated a move from Lyon; agitated a move to Liverpool. £15M profit for a mercenary. Don't want Spider to go but pleased he's kept his trap shut . Look on the bright side. If Kat wanted to sell she would have done two years ago. RK is a class appointment. The pipeline continues. (JWP, Targett, McQueen, Reed, Flannigan, McCarthy, Gallagher, Isgrove, Stephens, Sinclair). Two years ago who had heard of the £27M Shaw or the £16M Chambers. The point is that I absolutey feckin love this club and, despite what has happened this year, I do not ever ever ever want to go back to the days of Lowe and absolutely not the days of Branfoot, the genius who preferred "Oooh" Terry Hurlock to MLT. The message from this Saints Til I Die of 40+ years standing is be careful what you wish for, look towards an amazing future and never ever believe what the red tops say. Word![/p][/quote]I agree! I **** love our club too, and the capabilities we have at raising such a wonderful stream of class footballers! May we never lose that, which is the heart of our club! I am strange positive tonight, compared to my gloomy mood just the other day. I think it's because I feel we have some great signings to be revealed soon, and because genuinely feel that despite the raids, we still have great, great talent... I think Liverpool missed the Targett to be honest, excuse the pun! BigBugBuzzz
  • Score: 8

11:09pm Sun 27 Jul 14

saints_alive says...

NC what the f++k did you and KL talk about in that meeting????
Oh wait...let me guess:
NC: I have everything in place to take this club to Europe, but I need a little more investment.
KL: My father gave you everything you needed; your demands are futile.
NC: Look Kat, to be part of the future of football we need a bigger stadium. Our players demand bigger wages.
KL: Bigger wages for a bigger stadium? That is not my conviction. And I have tried to watch your game but it bores the hell out of me.
NC: Your father loved Southampton FC why can not you uphold his legacy to see it to through to its resolution?
KL: I have. The Premier League. Now can I sell everything and get our money back?
NC: No. This is the start. He wanted Champions League. He was a real visionary you know. Everything is in place. You just have to sign the agreement.
KL: Thanks for the advice. You are fired and I am going to employ a hockey coach.
NC what the f++k did you and KL talk about in that meeting???? Oh wait...let me guess: NC: I have everything in place to take this club to Europe, but I need a little more investment. KL: My father gave you everything you needed; your demands are futile. NC: Look Kat, to be part of the future of football we need a bigger stadium. Our players demand bigger wages. KL: Bigger wages for a bigger stadium? That is not my conviction. And I have tried to watch your game but it bores the hell out of me. NC: Your father loved Southampton FC why can not you uphold his legacy to see it to through to its resolution? KL: I have. The Premier League. Now can I sell everything and get our money back? NC: No. This is the start. He wanted Champions League. He was a real visionary you know. Everything is in place. You just have to sign the agreement. KL: Thanks for the advice. You are fired and I am going to employ a hockey coach. saints_alive
  • Score: -20

11:10pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Jesus_02 says...

steekeemcglue wrote:
Jesus_02 wrote:
steekeemcglue wrote:
fcuk off Lovren,,,, bravo Saints... Easy to get CBs for half that money... anyone who criticises Saints over this is not a real fan. You may buy the cheap sh1t that passes for a kit ( thanks Nicola for that one ) but you are not a real fan... keep your gobs shut until this all pans out and respect the people that made Premiership football a reality in the first place.... that will be the owners.
Anyone that agree's with this t1t is not a real fan. He is obviously the sort if person that backs up his opinion with "FACT". What has Cortese got to do with the kit he was forced out before we decided to "make our own" (I actually think they are ok) . They are red and white FACT
you are a stupid tawt.... get your facts right on at least the very basic level... I know football fans get stereotyped as being thick as sh1t but there is no need for you to prove it....
T1T...FACT
[quote][p][bold]steekeemcglue[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]steekeemcglue[/bold] wrote: fcuk off Lovren,,,, bravo Saints... Easy to get CBs for half that money... anyone who criticises Saints over this is not a real fan. You may buy the cheap sh1t that passes for a kit ( thanks Nicola for that one ) but you are not a real fan... keep your gobs shut until this all pans out and respect the people that made Premiership football a reality in the first place.... that will be the owners.[/p][/quote]Anyone that agree's with this t1t is not a real fan. He is obviously the sort if person that backs up his opinion with "FACT". What has Cortese got to do with the kit he was forced out before we decided to "make our own" (I actually think they are ok) . They are red and white FACT[/p][/quote]you are a stupid tawt.... get your facts right on at least the very basic level... I know football fans get stereotyped as being thick as sh1t but there is no need for you to prove it....[/p][/quote]T1T...FACT Jesus_02
  • Score: 10

11:10pm Sun 27 Jul 14

jls217 says...

southcoast62 wrote:
Les bid 2.5 m tomorrow for messi put in the Paper doing all you can to bring in new players and sip another pimms
Heart and home more like pocket an fill
We will see what tomorrow brings
Coyr
If Les can't get Messi here for 2.5m nobody can.
[quote][p][bold]southcoast62[/bold] wrote: Les bid 2.5 m tomorrow for messi put in the Paper doing all you can to bring in new players and sip another pimms Heart and home more like pocket an fill We will see what tomorrow brings Coyr[/p][/quote]If Les can't get Messi here for 2.5m nobody can. jls217
  • Score: -10

11:11pm Sun 27 Jul 14

jls217 says...

u bunch of mugs wrote:
Les Reed out simple as. Why do us saints fans sit back and take this.
No passion I suppose.
The last bus to Pompey is in ten minutes mug.
[quote][p][bold]u bunch of mugs[/bold] wrote: Les Reed out simple as. Why do us saints fans sit back and take this. No passion I suppose.[/p][/quote]The last bus to Pompey is in ten minutes mug. jls217
  • Score: -17

11:14pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Gormzzz says...

jls217 wrote:
red/whitearmy wrote:
What the hell is wrong with some fans. These players want to sod off and are no longer interested in playing for us so what are we supposed to do. Were selling them for higher profits , Pelle and Stadic are in , . So some of you would rather us keep players who no longer want to play for us. These players have **** on us and some on here want to blame the club. As far as im concerned to hell with the players who are not interested. We can have players who are interested and hungry. Not the clubs fault.
Red - I love it when you get angry especially when you are spot on the money.
I think it's more about the reasoning behind their decisions. I definitely don't want anybody there that doesn't want to play, but I would love to know just what has driven all of our star players, management and key board members to take off. it's the board, these players have a great future in front of them and they have to protect that, they can't afford to sit around at mid table for a few seasons why the club establishes the direction it's taking (something that has already been made evident, it's not the way the fans or players wanted to go). The board are completely to blame, I wouldn't have minded if they had said we haven't got much to spend on transfers, I don't think the players would have minded to much wither, it's the fact that they are so desperate to cash in NOW. Just incase value decreases, we're in no need to sell. Yes FFP **** us, but we didn't need to spend big, we just needed to not sell.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]red/whitearmy[/bold] wrote: What the hell is wrong with some fans. These players want to sod off and are no longer interested in playing for us so what are we supposed to do. Were selling them for higher profits , Pelle and Stadic are in , . So some of you would rather us keep players who no longer want to play for us. These players have **** on us and some on here want to blame the club. As far as im concerned to hell with the players who are not interested. We can have players who are interested and hungry. Not the clubs fault.[/p][/quote]Red - I love it when you get angry especially when you are spot on the money.[/p][/quote]I think it's more about the reasoning behind their decisions. I definitely don't want anybody there that doesn't want to play, but I would love to know just what has driven all of our star players, management and key board members to take off. it's the board, these players have a great future in front of them and they have to protect that, they can't afford to sit around at mid table for a few seasons why the club establishes the direction it's taking (something that has already been made evident, it's not the way the fans or players wanted to go). The board are completely to blame, I wouldn't have minded if they had said we haven't got much to spend on transfers, I don't think the players would have minded to much wither, it's the fact that they are so desperate to cash in NOW. Just incase value decreases, we're in no need to sell. Yes FFP **** us, but we didn't need to spend big, we just needed to not sell. Gormzzz
  • Score: 1

11:16pm Sun 27 Jul 14

InCortesewetrust says...

Come back!! save us again Cortese, yes markus money but Cortese was the architect! His vision his dream, he done nothing wrong the whole time, building a strong foundation and excellent team spirit 5 year's, it takes 5 month's for krugger and les to F it all up,,
Come back!! save us again Cortese, yes markus money but Cortese was the architect! His vision his dream, he done nothing wrong the whole time, building a strong foundation and excellent team spirit 5 year's, it takes 5 month's for krugger and les to F it all up,, InCortesewetrust
  • Score: -9

11:17pm Sun 27 Jul 14

southcoast62 says...

exiledinyork wrote:
I rarely post, but often look at DE comments. Can we all just take deep breath? Lambert, absolute star who no one can begrudge a dream move to home town team. Adam "You've changed" Lallana being sold for at least £10M over market price after one good PL season. Shaw, £27M with Targett, who is a technically better LB in the wings. Chambers for £16M or around 700K a game (22 apps so far). Lovren; agitated a move from Lyon; agitated a move to Liverpool. £15M profit for a mercenary. Don't want Spider to go but pleased he's kept his trap shut .
Look on the bright side. If Kat wanted to sell she would have done two years ago. RK is a class appointment. The pipeline continues. (JWP, Targett, McQueen, Reed, Flannigan, McCarthy, Gallagher, Isgrove, Stephens, Sinclair). Two years ago who had heard of the £27M Shaw or the £16M Chambers. The point is that I absolutey feckin love this club and, despite what has happened this year, I do not ever ever ever want to go back to the days of Lowe and absolutely not the days of Branfoot, the genius who preferred "Oooh" Terry Hurlock to MLT.
The message from this Saints Til I Die of 40+ years standing is be careful what you wish for, look towards an amazing future and never ever believe what the red tops say. Word!
Ok let's see and you know I hope your rig
[quote][p][bold]exiledinyork[/bold] wrote: I rarely post, but often look at DE comments. Can we all just take deep breath? Lambert, absolute star who no one can begrudge a dream move to home town team. Adam "You've changed" Lallana being sold for at least £10M over market price after one good PL season. Shaw, £27M with Targett, who is a technically better LB in the wings. Chambers for £16M or around 700K a game (22 apps so far). Lovren; agitated a move from Lyon; agitated a move to Liverpool. £15M profit for a mercenary. Don't want Spider to go but pleased he's kept his trap shut . Look on the bright side. If Kat wanted to sell she would have done two years ago. RK is a class appointment. The pipeline continues. (JWP, Targett, McQueen, Reed, Flannigan, McCarthy, Gallagher, Isgrove, Stephens, Sinclair). Two years ago who had heard of the £27M Shaw or the £16M Chambers. The point is that I absolutey feckin love this club and, despite what has happened this year, I do not ever ever ever want to go back to the days of Lowe and absolutely not the days of Branfoot, the genius who preferred "Oooh" Terry Hurlock to MLT. The message from this Saints Til I Die of 40+ years standing is be careful what you wish for, look towards an amazing future and never ever believe what the red tops say. Word![/p][/quote]Ok let's see and you know I hope your rig southcoast62
  • Score: 3

11:19pm Sun 27 Jul 14

nomorerumours says...

Columbo's Glass Eye wrote:
Let's all just pause for one second and remember how brilliant life was with Adkins at the helm. He built the quality team we still have the remnants of today. Thanks Nigel. All your hard work is going down the pan. Anyway, moving on. Koemans basically got a very small amount of time lo get the supporters excited again. I think he'll do it. The players lost are a shame but better now than giving any less than 100% on the pitch. My worry is that we may be narrow minded and only be looking for players he knows personally or dutch players. There are millions of good players out there so come on Les lets sign 2-3 and have a great season.
I broadly agree. I think you'll find that RK has widespread connections and although the majority of new signings will be Dutch, or non-Dutch but once played under RK, there will be others too. He can sign the whole Dutch national team as far as I'm concerned! Seriously, I'm expecting almost all the sale monies to be re-invested and there will be one really high profile player to surprise us all and the media. We have the board to thank for securing RK. Great times ahead.
[quote][p][bold]Columbo's Glass Eye[/bold] wrote: Let's all just pause for one second and remember how brilliant life was with Adkins at the helm. He built the quality team we still have the remnants of today. Thanks Nigel. All your hard work is going down the pan. Anyway, moving on. Koemans basically got a very small amount of time lo get the supporters excited again. I think he'll do it. The players lost are a shame but better now than giving any less than 100% on the pitch. My worry is that we may be narrow minded and only be looking for players he knows personally or dutch players. There are millions of good players out there so come on Les lets sign 2-3 and have a great season.[/p][/quote]I broadly agree. I think you'll find that RK has widespread connections and although the majority of new signings will be Dutch, or non-Dutch but once played under RK, there will be others too. He can sign the whole Dutch national team as far as I'm concerned! Seriously, I'm expecting almost all the sale monies to be re-invested and there will be one really high profile player to surprise us all and the media. We have the board to thank for securing RK. Great times ahead. nomorerumours
  • Score: -4

11:19pm Sun 27 Jul 14

jls217 says...

Saintsincethe60s wrote:
Let's cut out the cancer within our club, that was started by Cortese and continued by the slimy argie and move on with players that want to be here.

If there are any more then raise your head above the parapet and p!ss off, we don't want or need anybody without the right attitude at our club , we can rebuild with the over inflated fees
With you on everything but one point mate.

He, for sure, is a slimy ex manager but his nationality has nothing to do with any wrongdoing here. He is just a nasty slimy little two faced manager. The only thing worse than hatred is irrational hatred and there are those who might argue that all hatred is irrational (I'm yet to make my mind up on that one)
[quote][p][bold]Saintsincethe60s[/bold] wrote: Let's cut out the cancer within our club, that was started by Cortese and continued by the slimy argie and move on with players that want to be here. If there are any more then raise your head above the parapet and p!ss off, we don't want or need anybody without the right attitude at our club , we can rebuild with the over inflated fees[/p][/quote]With you on everything but one point mate. He, for sure, is a slimy ex manager but his nationality has nothing to do with any wrongdoing here. He is just a nasty slimy little two faced manager. The only thing worse than hatred is irrational hatred and there are those who might argue that all hatred is irrational (I'm yet to make my mind up on that one) jls217
  • Score: -13

11:20pm Sun 27 Jul 14

BumperSaint says...

jls217 wrote:
BumperSaint wrote:
Bought for 8.5 sold for 20 (potentially more), great bit of business. Just need to announce a decent CB in the next couple of days.....and I'll be more than happy. The guy would only damage team morale if he stayed, so let's get a fresh 8-10 mil (up for the cause) footballer bedded in ready for kick off...... In Ron we trust.
Agree but I think we now need two CB's.
Absolutely. We needed a new cb before we knew he was leaving, so now we do need to replace him and get another to compete with fonte..... Jos and yosh simply not good enough.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BumperSaint[/bold] wrote: Bought for 8.5 sold for 20 (potentially more), great bit of business. Just need to announce a decent CB in the next couple of days.....and I'll be more than happy. The guy would only damage team morale if he stayed, so let's get a fresh 8-10 mil (up for the cause) footballer bedded in ready for kick off...... In Ron we trust.[/p][/quote]Agree but I think we now need two CB's.[/p][/quote]Absolutely. We needed a new cb before we knew he was leaving, so now we do need to replace him and get another to compete with fonte..... Jos and yosh simply not good enough. BumperSaint
  • Score: 8

11:21pm Sun 27 Jul 14

oldsaintsfan says...

Irrespective of how supporters feel about player loyalty to the club it seems clear that significant net talent has left the club since the end of the last campaign (that’s why the club has a stack of cash). The question is what will the club decide to do with it and knows how many more key players from last season will leave in the next few weeks?
The PL season is long and unremitting and there is no substitute for quality and experience. The board needs to start demonstrating their intent with regard to quality signings – otherwise we will clearly have become the Blackpool of the PL with all the likely consequences. My heart hopes for the best and wishes to believe – my head tells me we are on the down roller-coaster. Hopefully after 10 games my head will have been proved wrong……..
Irrespective of how supporters feel about player loyalty to the club it seems clear that significant net talent has left the club since the end of the last campaign (that’s why the club has a stack of cash). The question is what will the club decide to do with it and knows how many more key players from last season will leave in the next few weeks? The PL season is long and unremitting and there is no substitute for quality and experience. The board needs to start demonstrating their intent with regard to quality signings – otherwise we will clearly have become the Blackpool of the PL with all the likely consequences. My heart hopes for the best and wishes to believe – my head tells me we are on the down roller-coaster. Hopefully after 10 games my head will have been proved wrong…….. oldsaintsfan
  • Score: 19

11:21pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Positively4thStreet says...

InCortesewetrust wrote:
Come back!! save us again Cortese, yes markus money but Cortese was the architect! His vision his dream, he done nothing wrong the whole time, building a strong foundation and excellent team spirit 5 year's, it takes 5 month's for krugger and les to F it all up,,
Bang on the money! A dream needlessly destroyed.
[quote][p][bold]InCortesewetrust[/bold] wrote: Come back!! save us again Cortese, yes markus money but Cortese was the architect! His vision his dream, he done nothing wrong the whole time, building a strong foundation and excellent team spirit 5 year's, it takes 5 month's for krugger and les to F it all up,,[/p][/quote]Bang on the money! A dream needlessly destroyed. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: -16

11:23pm Sun 27 Jul 14

jls217 says...

justaSaintsfan wrote:
Whitton wrote:
Simple as this: a$$hole.
Is that where Lovren's head is, or is it already at Real Madrid?
Love it - worth watching this space for that one.
[quote][p][bold]justaSaintsfan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Whitton[/bold] wrote: Simple as this: a$$hole.[/p][/quote]Is that where Lovren's head is, or is it already at Real Madrid?[/p][/quote]Love it - worth watching this space for that one. jls217
  • Score: -10

11:24pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Gormzzz says...

Gotta give J Rod and Scheniderlin props for keeping their mouth shut, Scheiderlin made a statement but said he'd see what the clubs plans are first. If they both do decide they want to leave now too, which they probably will then good luck to them, you can't blame them and at least they showed a little loyalty. J Rod hasn't signed that contract yet and I can't see Scheiderlin at a mid table side with the talent he has. Who cares if RK buys 10 players, it's too late, we'll be like QPR 2 seasons back, that's just how 10 new players play when they don't know each other.
Gotta give J Rod and Scheniderlin props for keeping their mouth shut, Scheiderlin made a statement but said he'd see what the clubs plans are first. If they both do decide they want to leave now too, which they probably will then good luck to them, you can't blame them and at least they showed a little loyalty. J Rod hasn't signed that contract yet and I can't see Scheiderlin at a mid table side with the talent he has. Who cares if RK buys 10 players, it's too late, we'll be like QPR 2 seasons back, that's just how 10 new players play when they don't know each other. Gormzzz
  • Score: -3

11:27pm Sun 27 Jul 14

hedge end bob says...

SAINTS ALIVE, was you not asked your expert advice whilst your meeting was in progress??. I'm surprised with all this information that you hav'nt sold it to the daily's with all that is happening at ST MARY'S.
WELL DONE FOR KEEPING QUIET.
SAINTS ALIVE, was you not asked your expert advice whilst your meeting was in progress??. I'm surprised with all this information that you hav'nt sold it to the daily's with all that is happening at ST MARY'S. WELL DONE FOR KEEPING QUIET. hedge end bob
  • Score: 2

11:29pm Sun 27 Jul 14

jls217 says...

MattiusTheGreat wrote:
So far the Majority of players we've sold, we have replaced, I'm sure RoKo has a plan. I'm excited to see what lies ahead! COYR! Out with the old, in with the new!
As Rambo said, "Players come and players go"
[quote][p][bold]MattiusTheGreat[/bold] wrote: So far the Majority of players we've sold, we have replaced, I'm sure RoKo has a plan. I'm excited to see what lies ahead! COYR! Out with the old, in with the new![/p][/quote]As Rambo said, "Players come and players go" jls217
  • Score: -7

11:30pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Gormzzz says...

Heard J Rod and Schneiderlin don't really want to leave the club but can't stay now we've sold everybody, so have opted for a suicide pact instead.
Heard J Rod and Schneiderlin don't really want to leave the club but can't stay now we've sold everybody, so have opted for a suicide pact instead. Gormzzz
  • Score: 2

11:30pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Positively4thStreet says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
oh dear the wums thought that the fans would be angry at the club about this move, total fail!
if the fans are angry it is with dejerk, a money grabbing big headed a hole. 1 season and not long into it his heads disappeared, was found by Brenda at anyplayerfield after he scored the winner for us. well as far as I`m concerned that win will from now on be as the result of an own goal!
cant wait until we play them and pelle constantly puts him on his ar$e!

this move hasn't come fast enough for me should have told him not to bother turning up for training! we didn't need him at training telling the others all about his lovely move and how much money hes going to get.

breaking news,
dejerk lovehimself has put in a transfer request at liverhampton after saying the club has lost its ambition due to selling its best player, hes quoted as saying his heads been at the camp nou after having a tour on his summer holiday, I`ve always dreamed of playing at a club capable of winning the champions league he is reported to have said!
I like that 101. :0)
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: oh dear the wums thought that the fans would be angry at the club about this move, total fail! if the fans are angry it is with dejerk, a money grabbing big headed a hole. 1 season and not long into it his heads disappeared, was found by Brenda at anyplayerfield after he scored the winner for us. well as far as I`m concerned that win will from now on be as the result of an own goal! cant wait until we play them and pelle constantly puts him on his ar$e! this move hasn't come fast enough for me should have told him not to bother turning up for training! we didn't need him at training telling the others all about his lovely move and how much money hes going to get. breaking news, dejerk lovehimself has put in a transfer request at liverhampton after saying the club has lost its ambition due to selling its best player, hes quoted as saying his heads been at the camp nou after having a tour on his summer holiday, I`ve always dreamed of playing at a club capable of winning the champions league he is reported to have said![/p][/quote]I like that 101. :0) Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 6

11:33pm Sun 27 Jul 14

jls217 says...

red/whitearmy wrote:
saints1998 wrote:
I can't help but think that relegation Is awaiting us. This is because our squad is probably the smallest in our history. We need at least 6 new players just to replace the ones that have left. Also I think that Liverpool will come in for Jay.
What , we have a squad with two new comers plus the youngters. What i saw at cherries was a bunch of lads who are tighter as a unit. Letting these arrogant big heads go might have done us a favour.
Especially for the over inflated prices we managed to squeeze for.
[quote][p][bold]red/whitearmy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]saints1998[/bold] wrote: I can't help but think that relegation Is awaiting us. This is because our squad is probably the smallest in our history. We need at least 6 new players just to replace the ones that have left. Also I think that Liverpool will come in for Jay.[/p][/quote]What , we have a squad with two new comers plus the youngters. What i saw at cherries was a bunch of lads who are tighter as a unit. Letting these arrogant big heads go might have done us a favour.[/p][/quote]Especially for the over inflated prices we managed to squeeze for. jls217
  • Score: -6

11:36pm Sun 27 Jul 14

jls217 says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Saintsincethe60s wrote:
Let's cut out the cancer within our club, that was started by Cortese and continued by the slimy argie and move on with players that want to be here.

If there are any more then raise your head above the parapet and p!ss off, we don't want or need anybody without the right attitude at our club , we can rebuild with the over inflated fees
It wasn't started by Cortese.He was made aware that this was going to happen,couldn't do anything about it,and got out.Once the players and manager realised the "plan" was at an end,they all got out too.
Interesting idea.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintsincethe60s[/bold] wrote: Let's cut out the cancer within our club, that was started by Cortese and continued by the slimy argie and move on with players that want to be here. If there are any more then raise your head above the parapet and p!ss off, we don't want or need anybody without the right attitude at our club , we can rebuild with the over inflated fees[/p][/quote]It wasn't started by Cortese.He was made aware that this was going to happen,couldn't do anything about it,and got out.Once the players and manager realised the "plan" was at an end,they all got out too.[/p][/quote]Interesting idea. jls217
  • Score: -5

11:40pm Sun 27 Jul 14

jls217 says...

nomorerumours wrote:
Now for the great re-build. Just watch our new signings come in during the next few days and over the next 5 weeks - then this may stop all the moaners and make some others less worried. Exciting times ahead for Saints with another top 10 finish. The board and our owner are doing a great job bringing in top monies for the wantawaysand RK will be prove to be our best ever manager for at least the next 3 years. I thought I would be the first positive post on this thread and then I can draw all the pathetic flack from the doom and gloom merchants and pave the way for a sensible balanced discussion.
You may have done this a bit tongue in cheek but apart from the top 10 finish most of us are with you. The top 10 finish comes in Rambos second season - you really should have paid more attention when you saw the script :-)
[quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: Now for the great re-build. Just watch our new signings come in during the next few days and over the next 5 weeks - then this may stop all the moaners and make some others less worried. Exciting times ahead for Saints with another top 10 finish. The board and our owner are doing a great job bringing in top monies for the wantawaysand RK will be prove to be our best ever manager for at least the next 3 years. I thought I would be the first positive post on this thread and then I can draw all the pathetic flack from the doom and gloom merchants and pave the way for a sensible balanced discussion.[/p][/quote]You may have done this a bit tongue in cheek but apart from the top 10 finish most of us are with you. The top 10 finish comes in Rambos second season - you really should have paid more attention when you saw the script :-) jls217
  • Score: -6

11:42pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Scum0703 says...

Been a saints fan for 30 years and always will be to the day i die. But the way things are at the moment its a f'in joke sell sell sell. Am the only one thinking she is cashing in and do one?
Been a saints fan for 30 years and always will be to the day i die. But the way things are at the moment its a f'in joke sell sell sell. Am the only one thinking she is cashing in and do one? Scum0703
  • Score: -15

11:42pm Sun 27 Jul 14

one in the crowd says...

BigBugBuzzz wrote:
Looking back to last season's start, how many remember how excited we were at our amazing new ability to spend 12 million pounds on one player?

Well, ever player we are selling is going for almost double that! I seriously think these players are being sold at above fair value!

If we are intelligent investors, we might actually replace these players and have tens of millions left over!

Our future could be secured, not ruined, by the events of summer 2014!

C'mon Board, don't let us down. I for one will try to relax until the end of the window, and hope to see a clear path to something great!
To bring a little bit of reality to the situation that now exists.

Since the club is owned by one person and not a group of shareholders any pot of money , belongs to the owner and won't necessarily be spent by the club in order to strengthen the squad ( a little will have to be spent in order to replace those that have left ). So long as the club ticks over and stays out of trouble, the owner knows that the club will receive a good income from TV rights as long as it remains in the Premier League. If it starts to slide down the owner can use the January trandfer window and spend a little bit of cash to reinforce the team.

The whole of the football world knows that the owner of the club has a lot of cash, so any club that has a player Saint's are interested in, will automatically hold out for the largest transfer figure. Therefore Saint's will also be paying out over the odds to fill the voids in the squad.

Don't be surprised if Saint's owner doesn't spend much money and even sells the club within the next year ( after all, she has now got more than what was originally invested in Saint's ).
[quote][p][bold]BigBugBuzzz[/bold] wrote: Looking back to last season's start, how many remember how excited we were at our amazing new ability to spend 12 million pounds on one player? Well, ever player we are selling is going for almost double that! I seriously think these players are being sold at above fair value! If we are intelligent investors, we might actually replace these players and have tens of millions left over! Our future could be secured, not ruined, by the events of summer 2014! C'mon Board, don't let us down. I for one will try to relax until the end of the window, and hope to see a clear path to something great![/p][/quote]To bring a little bit of reality to the situation that now exists. Since the club is owned by one person and not a group of shareholders any pot of money , belongs to the owner and won't necessarily be spent by the club in order to strengthen the squad ( a little will have to be spent in order to replace those that have left ). So long as the club ticks over and stays out of trouble, the owner knows that the club will receive a good income from TV rights as long as it remains in the Premier League. If it starts to slide down the owner can use the January trandfer window and spend a little bit of cash to reinforce the team. The whole of the football world knows that the owner of the club has a lot of cash, so any club that has a player Saint's are interested in, will automatically hold out for the largest transfer figure. Therefore Saint's will also be paying out over the odds to fill the voids in the squad. Don't be surprised if Saint's owner doesn't spend much money and even sells the club within the next year ( after all, she has now got more than what was originally invested in Saint's ). one in the crowd
  • Score: 1

11:44pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Positively4thStreet says...

jls217 wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Saintsincethe60s wrote:
Let's cut out the cancer within our club, that was started by Cortese and continued by the slimy argie and move on with players that want to be here.

If there are any more then raise your head above the parapet and p!ss off, we don't want or need anybody without the right attitude at our club , we can rebuild with the over inflated fees
It wasn't started by Cortese.He was made aware that this was going to happen,couldn't do anything about it,and got out.Once the players and manager realised the "plan" was at an end,they all got out too.
Interesting idea.
Just my opinion jls, I know you have mixed views of NC,but all the time he was there my confidence that big things were just over the horizon for us,just got greater and greater.
I still have a lot of confidence in our Ron though,and I don't think things are necessarily going to turn out as bad as some people are fearing.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintsincethe60s[/bold] wrote: Let's cut out the cancer within our club, that was started by Cortese and continued by the slimy argie and move on with players that want to be here. If there are any more then raise your head above the parapet and p!ss off, we don't want or need anybody without the right attitude at our club , we can rebuild with the over inflated fees[/p][/quote]It wasn't started by Cortese.He was made aware that this was going to happen,couldn't do anything about it,and got out.Once the players and manager realised the "plan" was at an end,they all got out too.[/p][/quote]Interesting idea.[/p][/quote]Just my opinion jls, I know you have mixed views of NC,but all the time he was there my confidence that big things were just over the horizon for us,just got greater and greater. I still have a lot of confidence in our Ron though,and I don't think things are necessarily going to turn out as bad as some people are fearing. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 12

11:45pm Sun 27 Jul 14

03alpe01 says...

Don't worry guys, we're not a selling club. Imagine how bad it would be if we were actually a selling club...
Don't worry guys, we're not a selling club. Imagine how bad it would be if we were actually a selling club... 03alpe01
  • Score: 1

11:52pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Positively4thStreet says...

one in the crowd wrote:
BigBugBuzzz wrote:
Looking back to last season's start, how many remember how excited we were at our amazing new ability to spend 12 million pounds on one player?

Well, ever player we are selling is going for almost double that! I seriously think these players are being sold at above fair value!

If we are intelligent investors, we might actually replace these players and have tens of millions left over!

Our future could be secured, not ruined, by the events of summer 2014!

C'mon Board, don't let us down. I for one will try to relax until the end of the window, and hope to see a clear path to something great!
To bring a little bit of reality to the situation that now exists.

Since the club is owned by one person and not a group of shareholders any pot of money , belongs to the owner and won't necessarily be spent by the club in order to strengthen the squad ( a little will have to be spent in order to replace those that have left ). So long as the club ticks over and stays out of trouble, the owner knows that the club will receive a good income from TV rights as long as it remains in the Premier League. If it starts to slide down the owner can use the January trandfer window and spend a little bit of cash to reinforce the team.

The whole of the football world knows that the owner of the club has a lot of cash, so any club that has a player Saint's are interested in, will automatically hold out for the largest transfer figure. Therefore Saint's will also be paying out over the odds to fill the voids in the squad.

Don't be surprised if Saint's owner doesn't spend much money and even sells the club within the next year ( after all, she has now got more than what was originally invested in Saint's ).
Thinking of making an offer then Search?
[quote][p][bold]one in the crowd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BigBugBuzzz[/bold] wrote: Looking back to last season's start, how many remember how excited we were at our amazing new ability to spend 12 million pounds on one player? Well, ever player we are selling is going for almost double that! I seriously think these players are being sold at above fair value! If we are intelligent investors, we might actually replace these players and have tens of millions left over! Our future could be secured, not ruined, by the events of summer 2014! C'mon Board, don't let us down. I for one will try to relax until the end of the window, and hope to see a clear path to something great![/p][/quote]To bring a little bit of reality to the situation that now exists. Since the club is owned by one person and not a group of shareholders any pot of money , belongs to the owner and won't necessarily be spent by the club in order to strengthen the squad ( a little will have to be spent in order to replace those that have left ). So long as the club ticks over and stays out of trouble, the owner knows that the club will receive a good income from TV rights as long as it remains in the Premier League. If it starts to slide down the owner can use the January trandfer window and spend a little bit of cash to reinforce the team. The whole of the football world knows that the owner of the club has a lot of cash, so any club that has a player Saint's are interested in, will automatically hold out for the largest transfer figure. Therefore Saint's will also be paying out over the odds to fill the voids in the squad. Don't be surprised if Saint's owner doesn't spend much money and even sells the club within the next year ( after all, she has now got more than what was originally invested in Saint's ).[/p][/quote]Thinking of making an offer then Search? Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 3

11:54pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Gormzzz says...

Katharina Liebherr has confirmed that she intends to spend the £90 million received on transfers this season on a life time supply of Big Mac's and Bratwurst.
Katharina Liebherr has confirmed that she intends to spend the £90 million received on transfers this season on a life time supply of Big Mac's and Bratwurst. Gormzzz
  • Score: -33

11:54pm Sun 27 Jul 14

jls217 says...

Stroppy_gramps wrote:
welp, another nice chunk of money for the pot. I am seriously going to p1ss myself laughing if Diverpool don't win anything next season.

Anyways, back to the important club - Saints.
Time for the signings to start coming in please, we've got plenty in the pot so lets make a few more signings and then keep an eye out for the next transfer window.

going to be a great season.
Yes it is Stroppy and still the thumbs down multi log ins don't seem to get it.
[quote][p][bold]Stroppy_gramps[/bold] wrote: welp, another nice chunk of money for the pot. I am seriously going to p1ss myself laughing if Diverpool don't win anything next season. Anyways, back to the important club - Saints. Time for the signings to start coming in please, we've got plenty in the pot so lets make a few more signings and then keep an eye out for the next transfer window. going to be a great season.[/p][/quote]Yes it is Stroppy and still the thumbs down multi log ins don't seem to get it. jls217
  • Score: 5

11:55pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Scum0703 says...

Scum0703 wrote:
Been a saints fan for 30 years and always will be to the day i die. But the way things are at the moment its a f'in joke sell sell sell. Am the only one thinking she is cashing in and do one?
http://www.dailymail
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says it all its all about the ££££££££££
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[quote][p][bold]Scum0703[/bold] wrote: Been a saints fan for 30 years and always will be to the day i die. But the way things are at the moment its a f'in joke sell sell sell. Am the only one thinking she is cashing in and do one?[/p][/quote]http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2540218/Li ebherr-dream-wrecker -How-3bn-heiress-who s-never-shown-footba ll-ousted-man-Saints -fans-believe-again. html says it all its all about the ££££££££££ ££££££££££ £££££ Scum0703
  • Score: -1

11:58pm Sun 27 Jul 14

will2ksaints says...

I heard he only signed last year because he saw the kit and thought it was Liverpool's. Oh well he's gone now, good riddance I say, no one needs big headed arrogant tw@ts like that. Remember Saldado making him look stupid in that game! And he didn't exactly set the league alight! Come on Ronald bring in some quality and let's get back to progressing our great club and overtake Brendon 'new teeth' Rogders team of nearly men! Hope he has many slips of the Stevie G mold!
I heard he only signed last year because he saw the kit and thought it was Liverpool's. Oh well he's gone now, good riddance I say, no one needs big headed arrogant tw@ts like that. Remember Saldado making him look stupid in that game! And he didn't exactly set the league alight! Come on Ronald bring in some quality and let's get back to progressing our great club and overtake Brendon 'new teeth' Rogders team of nearly men! Hope he has many slips of the Stevie G mold! will2ksaints
  • Score: 5

11:58pm Sun 27 Jul 14

Jon haswollop says...

I would love our board to answer these questions!

A: Is our youth policy designed to give southampton fc a chance of success by DEVELOPING good players to be able to compete at the highest standard, due to not being able to compete in the transfer market against bigger clubs,

Or......

B: Is it designed to keep us financially afloat?


If the answer to this question is B, then premiership football needs to be declassified from the term SPORT.

If saints fans are left with no hope or dreams of ever being able to win the premiership because of the structure of English football. Then fans will start to disappear from the game in general. You will have a few diehard fans that will be happy to watch southampton never being ALLOWED to aspire to anything. However, the majority of people will move on from the sport as they are not mugs. People wouldn't pay a fortune to watch a champion boxer fight an opponent with 500/1 odds of winning. Eventually the same will be for football.

The FA/FIFA/UEAF need to stop being greedy and turn this beautiful game into a sport again. If youth players were legally forced to see out their contracts until the age of 25. Without any clubs being allowed to approach or purchase them unless they have been put on the transfer market by their respective club. Then at least clubs like southampton would be able to enjoy the fruits of their labour for a few years (Callum chambers, theo Walcott, Luke shaw, k.dyer, Gareth bale, w.bridge etc,etc,etc) England's football team would benefit from it also.
I would love our board to answer these questions! A: Is our youth policy designed to give southampton fc a chance of success by DEVELOPING good players to be able to compete at the highest standard, due to not being able to compete in the transfer market against bigger clubs, Or...... B: Is it designed to keep us financially afloat? If the answer to this question is B, then premiership football needs to be declassified from the term SPORT. If saints fans are left with no hope or dreams of ever being able to win the premiership because of the structure of English football. Then fans will start to disappear from the game in general. You will have a few diehard fans that will be happy to watch southampton never being ALLOWED to aspire to anything. However, the majority of people will move on from the sport as they are not mugs. People wouldn't pay a fortune to watch a champion boxer fight an opponent with 500/1 odds of winning. Eventually the same will be for football. The FA/FIFA/UEAF need to stop being greedy and turn this beautiful game into a sport again. If youth players were legally forced to see out their contracts until the age of 25. Without any clubs being allowed to approach or purchase them unless they have been put on the transfer market by their respective club. Then at least clubs like southampton would be able to enjoy the fruits of their labour for a few years (Callum chambers, theo Walcott, Luke shaw, k.dyer, Gareth bale, w.bridge etc,etc,etc) England's football team would benefit from it also. Jon haswollop
  • Score: 12

12:02am Mon 28 Jul 14

jls217 says...

Gormzzz wrote:
Great statement for the fans on the official site! I've wrote ten times longer on here.
So what exactly would you want the club to say to keep you happy. What do any of us really want to hear about Lovren any more. He's gone - good money. Most are happy - no big deal.
[quote][p][bold]Gormzzz[/bold] wrote: Great statement for the fans on the official site! I've wrote ten times longer on here.[/p][/quote]So what exactly would you want the club to say to keep you happy. What do any of us really want to hear about Lovren any more. He's gone - good money. Most are happy - no big deal. jls217
  • Score: -7

12:03am Mon 28 Jul 14

andysaints007 says...

red/whitearmy wrote:
What the hell is wrong with some fans. These players want to sod off and are no longer interested in playing for us so what are we supposed to do. Were selling them for higher profits , Pelle and Stadic are in , . So some of you would rather us keep players who no longer want to play for us. These players have **** on us and some on here want to blame the club. As far as im concerned to hell with the players who are not interested. We can have players who are interested and hungry. Not the clubs fault.
Well said
[quote][p][bold]red/whitearmy[/bold] wrote: What the hell is wrong with some fans. These players want to sod off and are no longer interested in playing for us so what are we supposed to do. Were selling them for higher profits , Pelle and Stadic are in , . So some of you would rather us keep players who no longer want to play for us. These players have **** on us and some on here want to blame the club. As far as im concerned to hell with the players who are not interested. We can have players who are interested and hungry. Not the clubs fault.[/p][/quote]Well said andysaints007
  • Score: -2

12:10am Mon 28 Jul 14

jls217 says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
oh dear the wums thought that the fans would be angry at the club about this move, total fail!
if the fans are angry it is with dejerk, a money grabbing big headed a hole. 1 season and not long into it his heads disappeared, was found by Brenda at anyplayerfield after he scored the winner for us. well as far as I`m concerned that win will from now on be as the result of an own goal!
cant wait until we play them and pelle constantly puts him on his ar$e!

this move hasn't come fast enough for me should have told him not to bother turning up for training! we didn't need him at training telling the others all about his lovely move and how much money hes going to get.

breaking news,
dejerk lovehimself has put in a transfer request at liverhampton after saying the club has lost its ambition due to selling its best player, hes quoted as saying his heads been at the camp nou after having a tour on his summer holiday, I`ve always dreamed of playing at a club capable of winning the champions league he is reported to have said!
The wums must be heart- broken.
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: oh dear the wums thought that the fans would be angry at the club about this move, total fail! if the fans are angry it is with dejerk, a money grabbing big headed a hole. 1 season and not long into it his heads disappeared, was found by Brenda at anyplayerfield after he scored the winner for us. well as far as I`m concerned that win will from now on be as the result of an own goal! cant wait until we play them and pelle constantly puts him on his ar$e! this move hasn't come fast enough for me should have told him not to bother turning up for training! we didn't need him at training telling the others all about his lovely move and how much money hes going to get. breaking news, dejerk lovehimself has put in a transfer request at liverhampton after saying the club has lost its ambition due to selling its best player, hes quoted as saying his heads been at the camp nou after having a tour on his summer holiday, I`ve always dreamed of playing at a club capable of winning the champions league he is reported to have said![/p][/quote]The wums must be heart- broken. jls217
  • Score: -3

12:12am Mon 28 Jul 14

Saint in Pennsylvania says...

There is one simple question I want answered. Why are we selling so many players BEFORE we find replacements. It is not as if we do not have the money. We are putting our club in an unnecessarily destabilizing position. I thought RK was promised a war chest of 50m plus transfer sales. At this rate we will be lucky if we spend all that we have recouped in transfers. This is not investment. We need to spend VERY quickly now, to have any sort of squad before the window closes. Come on board, GET ON WITH IT!
There is one simple question I want answered. Why are we selling so many players BEFORE we find replacements. It is not as if we do not have the money. We are putting our club in an unnecessarily destabilizing position. I thought RK was promised a war chest of 50m plus transfer sales. At this rate we will be lucky if we spend all that we have recouped in transfers. This is not investment. We need to spend VERY quickly now, to have any sort of squad before the window closes. Come on board, GET ON WITH IT! Saint in Pennsylvania
  • Score: 13

12:12am Mon 28 Jul 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Jon haswollop wrote:
I would love our board to answer these questions!

A: Is our youth policy designed to give southampton fc a chance of success by DEVELOPING good players to be able to compete at the highest standard, due to not being able to compete in the transfer market against bigger clubs,

Or......

B: Is it designed to keep us financially afloat?


If the answer to this question is B, then premiership football needs to be declassified from the term SPORT.

If saints fans are left with no hope or dreams of ever being able to win the premiership because of the structure of English football. Then fans will start to disappear from the game in general. You will have a few diehard fans that will be happy to watch southampton never being ALLOWED to aspire to anything. However, the majority of people will move on from the sport as they are not mugs. People wouldn't pay a fortune to watch a champion boxer fight an opponent with 500/1 odds of winning. Eventually the same will be for football.

The FA/FIFA/UEAF need to stop being greedy and turn this beautiful game into a sport again. If youth players were legally forced to see out their contracts until the age of 25. Without any clubs being allowed to approach or purchase them unless they have been put on the transfer market by their respective club. Then at least clubs like southampton would be able to enjoy the fruits of their labour for a few years (Callum chambers, theo Walcott, Luke shaw, k.dyer, Gareth bale, w.bridge etc,etc,etc) England's football team would benefit from it also.
Like the suggestion in the last paragraph.It does make you wonder what difference a policy like that,would have made to Saints over the years.Big clubs would put the kaibosch on it no doubt.
[quote][p][bold]Jon haswollop[/bold] wrote: I would love our board to answer these questions! A: Is our youth policy designed to give southampton fc a chance of success by DEVELOPING good players to be able to compete at the highest standard, due to not being able to compete in the transfer market against bigger clubs, Or...... B: Is it designed to keep us financially afloat? If the answer to this question is B, then premiership football needs to be declassified from the term SPORT. If saints fans are left with no hope or dreams of ever being able to win the premiership because of the structure of English football. Then fans will start to disappear from the game in general. You will have a few diehard fans that will be happy to watch southampton never being ALLOWED to aspire to anything. However, the majority of people will move on from the sport as they are not mugs. People wouldn't pay a fortune to watch a champion boxer fight an opponent with 500/1 odds of winning. Eventually the same will be for football. The FA/FIFA/UEAF need to stop being greedy and turn this beautiful game into a sport again. If youth players were legally forced to see out their contracts until the age of 25. Without any clubs being allowed to approach or purchase them unless they have been put on the transfer market by their respective club. Then at least clubs like southampton would be able to enjoy the fruits of their labour for a few years (Callum chambers, theo Walcott, Luke shaw, k.dyer, Gareth bale, w.bridge etc,etc,etc) England's football team would benefit from it also.[/p][/quote]Like the suggestion in the last paragraph.It does make you wonder what difference a policy like that,would have made to Saints over the years.Big clubs would put the kaibosch on it no doubt. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 3

12:15am Mon 28 Jul 14

cotswoldsaint says...

Last season would have been really hacked off to lose Lovren but now, after his disgraceful antics, glad he's finally gone. Just hope we can replace him with some real quality.
On another point, who is responsible for Saints' PR because IMO, whoever it is, doesn't appear to be doing a very good job at the moment. I only hope that means that plans are afoot for a deluge of positive stories from the club about great new signings and no more unwanted departures!
Last season would have been really hacked off to lose Lovren but now, after his disgraceful antics, glad he's finally gone. Just hope we can replace him with some real quality. On another point, who is responsible for Saints' PR because IMO, whoever it is, doesn't appear to be doing a very good job at the moment. I only hope that means that plans are afoot for a deluge of positive stories from the club about great new signings and no more unwanted departures! cotswoldsaint
  • Score: 10

12:16am Mon 28 Jul 14

jls217 says...

Block 42 wrote:
red/whitearmy wrote:
What the hell is wrong with some fans. These players want to sod off and are no longer interested in playing for us so what are we supposed to do. Were selling them for higher profits , Pelle and Stadic are in , . So some of you would rather us keep players who no longer want to play for us. These players have **** on us and some on here want to blame the club. As far as im concerned to hell with the players who are not interested. We can have players who are interested and hungry. Not the clubs fault.
Great tadic and pelle...whilst ripping apart the entire spine and showing no ambition to keep poch...bet they will not spend the 100 plus million we aquire for these players.its a massive fail from a board who know nothing about football/soccer.I couldn't imagine man city chelsea man u psg napoli real mad barca or any other club who runs a tight business to carry on this way..its unprofessional and shows a massive middle finger to the fans.
They've already spent approx 20m of the money. You think Real Madrid run a tight business LOL.
[quote][p][bold]Block 42[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]red/whitearmy[/bold] wrote: What the hell is wrong with some fans. These players want to sod off and are no longer interested in playing for us so what are we supposed to do. Were selling them for higher profits , Pelle and Stadic are in , . So some of you would rather us keep players who no longer want to play for us. These players have **** on us and some on here want to blame the club. As far as im concerned to hell with the players who are not interested. We can have players who are interested and hungry. Not the clubs fault.[/p][/quote]Great tadic and pelle...whilst ripping apart the entire spine and showing no ambition to keep poch...bet they will not spend the 100 plus million we aquire for these players.its a massive fail from a board who know nothing about football/soccer.I couldn't imagine man city chelsea man u psg napoli real mad barca or any other club who runs a tight business to carry on this way..its unprofessional and shows a massive middle finger to the fans.[/p][/quote]They've already spent approx 20m of the money. You think Real Madrid run a tight business LOL. jls217
  • Score: -6

12:16am Mon 28 Jul 14

Scum0703 says...

http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=SMyOMDhfo
8c

Les Reed you talk sh1t mush!
http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=SMyOMDhfo 8c Les Reed you talk sh1t mush! Scum0703
  • Score: 10

12:20am Mon 28 Jul 14

Saint1972 says...

Gormzzz wrote:
Katharina Liebherr has confirmed that she intends to spend the £90 million received on transfers this season on a life time supply of Big Mac's and Bratwurst.
I think KL is getting an easy ride . Its reverse sexism , or sexism in reverse .

Too many fools on here have a hard on for fat birds and its clouding their already poor judgement .

If KL was a man , she would have has serious abuse for her disgraceful tenure.
[quote][p][bold]Gormzzz[/bold] wrote: Katharina Liebherr has confirmed that she intends to spend the £90 million received on transfers this season on a life time supply of Big Mac's and Bratwurst.[/p][/quote]I think KL is getting an easy ride . Its reverse sexism , or sexism in reverse . Too many fools on here have a hard on for fat birds and its clouding their already poor judgement . If KL was a man , she would have has serious abuse for her disgraceful tenure. Saint1972
  • Score: 8

12:23am Mon 28 Jul 14

Mister E says...

But everyone knew he wanted out, and so everyone was posting we should get shot of him. And for quite a profit!
The test will come when we see the quality (or lack of it!) of the replacement(s)!
As for some of the insults directed at Markus's daughter, well giving the insulters the benefit of the doubt, ignorant a puerile! RK saw/heard enough to convince him to come here - give them a chance.
But everyone knew he wanted out, and so everyone was posting we should get shot of him. And for quite a profit! The test will come when we see the quality (or lack of it!) of the replacement(s)! As for some of the insults directed at Markus's daughter, well giving the insulters the benefit of the doubt, ignorant a puerile! RK saw/heard enough to convince him to come here - give them a chance. Mister E
  • Score: 3

12:24am Mon 28 Jul 14

jls217 says...

one in the crowd wrote:
BigBugBuzzz wrote:
Looking back to last season's start, how many remember how excited we were at our amazing new ability to spend 12 million pounds on one player?

Well, ever player we are selling is going for almost double that! I seriously think these players are being sold at above fair value!

If we are intelligent investors, we might actually replace these players and have tens of millions left over!

Our future could be secured, not ruined, by the events of summer 2014!

C'mon Board, don't let us down. I for one will try to relax until the end of the window, and hope to see a clear path to something great!
To bring a little bit of reality to the situation that now exists.

Since the club is owned by one person and not a group of shareholders any pot of money , belongs to the owner and won't necessarily be spent by the club in order to strengthen the squad ( a little will have to be spent in order to replace those that have left ). So long as the club ticks over and stays out of trouble, the owner knows that the club will receive a good income from TV rights as long as it remains in the Premier League. If it starts to slide down the owner can use the January trandfer window and spend a little bit of cash to reinforce the team.

The whole of the football world knows that the owner of the club has a lot of cash, so any club that has a player Saint's are interested in, will automatically hold out for the largest transfer figure. Therefore Saint's will also be paying out over the odds to fill the voids in the squad.

Don't be surprised if Saint's owner doesn't spend much money and even sells the club within the next year ( after all, she has now got more than what was originally invested in Saint's ).
Absolutely right - her money - her business - her whim - her decision - her profit and if she's going to sell the end of this season would be the time to do it. Trouble is buyers are a bit thin on the ground right now.
The fact that Saints can provide her with a nice little earner for many years to come may persuade her to hold on to it. No crystal ball this end so who knows.
[quote][p][bold]one in the crowd[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BigBugBuzzz[/bold] wrote: Looking back to last season's start, how many remember how excited we were at our amazing new ability to spend 12 million pounds on one player? Well, ever player we are selling is going for almost double that! I seriously think these players are being sold at above fair value! If we are intelligent investors, we might actually replace these players and have tens of millions left over! Our future could be secured, not ruined, by the events of summer 2014! C'mon Board, don't let us down. I for one will try to relax until the end of the window, and hope to see a clear path to something great![/p][/quote]To bring a little bit of reality to the situation that now exists. Since the club is owned by one person and not a group of shareholders any pot of money , belongs to the owner and won't necessarily be spent by the club in order to strengthen the squad ( a little will have to be spent in order to replace those that have left ). So long as the club ticks over and stays out of trouble, the owner knows that the club will receive a good income from TV rights as long as it remains in the Premier League. If it starts to slide down the owner can use the January trandfer window and spend a little bit of cash to reinforce the team. The whole of the football world knows that the owner of the club has a lot of cash, so any club that has a player Saint's are interested in, will automatically hold out for the largest transfer figure. Therefore Saint's will also be paying out over the odds to fill the voids in the squad. Don't be surprised if Saint's owner doesn't spend much money and even sells the club within the next year ( after all, she has now got more than what was originally invested in Saint's ).[/p][/quote]Absolutely right - her money - her business - her whim - her decision - her profit and if she's going to sell the end of this season would be the time to do it. Trouble is buyers are a bit thin on the ground right now. The fact that Saints can provide her with a nice little earner for many years to come may persuade her to hold on to it. No crystal ball this end so who knows. jls217
  • Score: -7

12:29am Mon 28 Jul 14

kingkong 1 says...

Bazultra wrote:
Katerina OUT
jack ****
[quote][p][bold]Bazultra[/bold] wrote: Katerina OUT[/p][/quote]jack **** kingkong 1
  • Score: -2

12:32am Mon 28 Jul 14

Saint1972 says...

Scum0703 wrote:
Scum0703 wrote:
Been a saints fan for 30 years and always will be to the day i die. But the way things are at the moment its a f'in joke sell sell sell. Am the only one thinking she is cashing in and do one?
http://www.dailymail

.co.uk/sport/footbal

l/article-2540218/Li

ebherr-dream-wrecker

-How-3bn-heiress-who

s-never-shown-footba

ll-ousted-man-Saints

-fans-believe-again.

html

says it all its all about the ££££££££££

££££££££££

£££££
That is the perfect article , it sums everything up exactly .
[quote][p][bold]Scum0703[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scum0703[/bold] wrote: Been a saints fan for 30 years and always will be to the day i die. But the way things are at the moment its a f'in joke sell sell sell. Am the only one thinking she is cashing in and do one?[/p][/quote]http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2540218/Li ebherr-dream-wrecker -How-3bn-heiress-who s-never-shown-footba ll-ousted-man-Saints -fans-believe-again. html says it all its all about the ££££££££££ ££££££££££ £££££[/p][/quote]That is the perfect article , it sums everything up exactly . Saint1972
  • Score: 3

12:35am Mon 28 Jul 14

IanRC5 says...

Scum0703 wrote:
Scum0703 wrote:
Been a saints fan for 30 years and always will be to the day i die. But the way things are at the moment its a f'in joke sell sell sell. Am the only one thinking she is cashing in and do one?
http://www.dailymail

.co.uk/sport/footbal

l/article-2540218/Li

ebherr-dream-wrecker

-How-3bn-heiress-who

s-never-shown-footba

ll-ousted-man-Saints

-fans-believe-again.

html

says it all its all about the ££££££££££

££££££££££

£££££
Please this is the daily mail a paper that's reporting is so biased it should be sued.
[quote][p][bold]Scum0703[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scum0703[/bold] wrote: Been a saints fan for 30 years and always will be to the day i die. But the way things are at the moment its a f'in joke sell sell sell. Am the only one thinking she is cashing in and do one?[/p][/quote]http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2540218/Li ebherr-dream-wrecker -How-3bn-heiress-who s-never-shown-footba ll-ousted-man-Saints -fans-believe-again. html says it all its all about the ££££££££££ ££££££££££ £££££[/p][/quote]Please this is the daily mail a paper that's reporting is so biased it should be sued. IanRC5
  • Score: 3

12:36am Mon 28 Jul 14

jls217 says...

Scum0703 wrote:
Scum0703 wrote:
Been a saints fan for 30 years and always will be to the day i die. But the way things are at the moment its a f'in joke sell sell sell. Am the only one thinking she is cashing in and do one?
http://www.dailymail

.co.uk/sport/footbal

l/article-2540218/Li

ebherr-dream-wrecker

-How-3bn-heiress-who

s-never-shown-footba

ll-ousted-man-Saints

-fans-believe-again.

html

says it all its all about the ££££££££££

££££££££££

£££££
It always was and always will be mate.

Not sure anyone should be making decisions based upon anything the Daily Mail writes. Now if it was in the Sun it would be different!
[quote][p][bold]Scum0703[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scum0703[/bold] wrote: Been a saints fan for 30 years and always will be to the day i die. But the way things are at the moment its a f'in joke sell sell sell. Am the only one thinking she is cashing in and do one?[/p][/quote]http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2540218/Li ebherr-dream-wrecker -How-3bn-heiress-who s-never-shown-footba ll-ousted-man-Saints -fans-believe-again. html says it all its all about the ££££££££££ ££££££££££ £££££[/p][/quote]It always was and always will be mate. Not sure anyone should be making decisions based upon anything the Daily Mail writes. Now if it was in the Sun it would be different! jls217
  • Score: -3

12:37am Mon 28 Jul 14

kingkong 1 says...

Bazultra wrote:
Katerina OUT
I suppose I should have said Jack Donkey for it to pass the sensor
[quote][p][bold]Bazultra[/bold] wrote: Katerina OUT[/p][/quote]I suppose I should have said Jack Donkey for it to pass the sensor kingkong 1
  • Score: -2

12:37am Mon 28 Jul 14

Scum0703 says...

Saint1972 wrote:
Scum0703 wrote:
Scum0703 wrote:
Been a saints fan for 30 years and always will be to the day i die. But the way things are at the moment its a f'in joke sell sell sell. Am the only one thinking she is cashing in and do one?
http://www.dailymail


.co.uk/sport/footbal


l/article-2540218/Li


ebherr-dream-wrecker


-How-3bn-heiress-who


s-never-shown-footba


ll-ousted-man-Saints


-fans-believe-again.


html

says it all its all about the ££££££££££


££££££££££


£££££
That is the perfect article , it sums everything up exactly .
To right it does im fuming with it all.
[quote][p][bold]Saint1972[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scum0703[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scum0703[/bold] wrote: Been a saints fan for 30 years and always will be to the day i die. But the way things are at the moment its a f'in joke sell sell sell. Am the only one thinking she is cashing in and do one?[/p][/quote]http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2540218/Li ebherr-dream-wrecker -How-3bn-heiress-who s-never-shown-footba ll-ousted-man-Saints -fans-believe-again. html says it all its all about the ££££££££££ ££££££££££ £££££[/p][/quote]That is the perfect article , it sums everything up exactly .[/p][/quote]To right it does im fuming with it all. Scum0703
  • Score: 4

12:40am Mon 28 Jul 14

IanRC5 says...

Jon haswollop wrote:
I would love our board to answer these questions!

A: Is our youth policy designed to give southampton fc a chance of success by DEVELOPING good players to be able to compete at the highest standard, due to not being able to compete in the transfer market against bigger clubs,

Or......

B: Is it designed to keep us financially afloat?


If the answer to this question is B, then premiership football needs to be declassified from the term SPORT.

If saints fans are left with no hope or dreams of ever being able to win the premiership because of the structure of English football. Then fans will start to disappear from the game in general. You will have a few diehard fans that will be happy to watch southampton never being ALLOWED to aspire to anything. However, the majority of people will move on from the sport as they are not mugs. People wouldn't pay a fortune to watch a champion boxer fight an opponent with 500/1 odds of winning. Eventually the same will be for football.

The FA/FIFA/UEAF need to stop being greedy and turn this beautiful game into a sport again. If youth players were legally forced to see out their contracts until the age of 25. Without any clubs being allowed to approach or purchase them unless they have been put on the transfer market by their respective club. Then at least clubs like southampton would be able to enjoy the fruits of their labour for a few years (Callum chambers, theo Walcott, Luke shaw, k.dyer, Gareth bale, w.bridge etc,etc,etc) England's football team would benefit from it also.
Absolutely, unfortunately football is deeply corrupt rigged by the 'big clubs' with the aid of those who are supposed to ensure a level playing field and supported by the media hacks.
[quote][p][bold]Jon haswollop[/bold] wrote: I would love our board to answer these questions! A: Is our youth policy designed to give southampton fc a chance of success by DEVELOPING good players to be able to compete at the highest standard, due to not being able to compete in the transfer market against bigger clubs, Or...... B: Is it designed to keep us financially afloat? If the answer to this question is B, then premiership football needs to be declassified from the term SPORT. If saints fans are left with no hope or dreams of ever being able to win the premiership because of the structure of English football. Then fans will start to disappear from the game in general. You will have a few diehard fans that will be happy to watch southampton never being ALLOWED to aspire to anything. However, the majority of people will move on from the sport as they are not mugs. People wouldn't pay a fortune to watch a champion boxer fight an opponent with 500/1 odds of winning. Eventually the same will be for football. The FA/FIFA/UEAF need to stop being greedy and turn this beautiful game into a sport again. If youth players were legally forced to see out their contracts until the age of 25. Without any clubs being allowed to approach or purchase them unless they have been put on the transfer market by their respective club. Then at least clubs like southampton would be able to enjoy the fruits of their labour for a few years (Callum chambers, theo Walcott, Luke shaw, k.dyer, Gareth bale, w.bridge etc,etc,etc) England's football team would benefit from it also.[/p][/quote]Absolutely, unfortunately football is deeply corrupt rigged by the 'big clubs' with the aid of those who are supposed to ensure a level playing field and supported by the media hacks. IanRC5
  • Score: 3

12:40am Mon 28 Jul 14

Spanish Santo says...

Jon haswollop wrote:
I would love our board to answer these questions!

A: Is our youth policy designed to give southampton fc a chance of success by DEVELOPING good players to be able to compete at the highest standard, due to not being able to compete in the transfer market against bigger clubs,

Or......

B: Is it designed to keep us financially afloat?


If the answer to this question is B, then premiership football needs to be declassified from the term SPORT.

If saints fans are left with no hope or dreams of ever being able to win the premiership because of the structure of English football. Then fans will start to disappear from the game in general. You will have a few diehard fans that will be happy to watch southampton never being ALLOWED to aspire to anything. However, the majority of people will move on from the sport as they are not mugs. People wouldn't pay a fortune to watch a champion boxer fight an opponent with 500/1 odds of winning. Eventually the same will be for football.

The FA/FIFA/UEAF need to stop being greedy and turn this beautiful game into a sport again. If youth players were legally forced to see out their contracts until the age of 25. Without any clubs being allowed to approach or purchase them unless they have been put on the transfer market by their respective club. Then at least clubs like southampton would be able to enjoy the fruits of their labour for a few years (Callum chambers, theo Walcott, Luke shaw, k.dyer, Gareth bale, w.bridge etc,etc,etc) England's football team would benefit from it also.
Unfortunately Jon...the beautiful game has turned into a money making monster. You are right, there are a few legislation changes that would benefit the national team, but unfortunately we the fans have created this monster. The same question needs to be asked abouth the number one sport in the world still not allowing refs the ability to overturn a poor decision via a replay. Every sport in the world uses this technology apart from football. You need to ask yourself why. FIFA are obviously corrupt but the FA should not and do not need to adhere to the crazy ramblings of Blat the t#@t. The reason I was so happy that saints had done so well over the past 5 seasons was (to quote Frank) they did it their own way. The Southampton way. This has proved such a revelation that now there are clubs up and down the country re-evaluating the importance of a good youth system...maybe the Southampton way will be responsable for changing a generations view of the importance of looking to produce homegrown talent above buying in foreign mercenaries. I for one am proud to call myself a saints fan, and indeed very proud of what we have achieved in a relatively short period. Lets see what the next five years bring. One thing for Shaw is that is never dull on the South coast.( Pun intended!).
[quote][p][bold]Jon haswollop[/bold] wrote: I would love our board to answer these questions! A: Is our youth policy designed to give southampton fc a chance of success by DEVELOPING good players to be able to compete at the highest standard, due to not being able to compete in the transfer market against bigger clubs, Or...... B: Is it designed to keep us financially afloat? If the answer to this question is B, then premiership football needs to be declassified from the term SPORT. If saints fans are left with no hope or dreams of ever being able to win the premiership because of the structure of English football. Then fans will start to disappear from the game in general. You will have a few diehard fans that will be happy to watch southampton never being ALLOWED to aspire to anything. However, the majority of people will move on from the sport as they are not mugs. People wouldn't pay a fortune to watch a champion boxer fight an opponent with 500/1 odds of winning. Eventually the same will be for football. The FA/FIFA/UEAF need to stop being greedy and turn this beautiful game into a sport again. If youth players were legally forced to see out their contracts until the age of 25. Without any clubs being allowed to approach or purchase them unless they have been put on the transfer market by their respective club. Then at least clubs like southampton would be able to enjoy the fruits of their labour for a few years (Callum chambers, theo Walcott, Luke shaw, k.dyer, Gareth bale, w.bridge etc,etc,etc) England's football team would benefit from it also.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately Jon...the beautiful game has turned into a money making monster. You are right, there are a few legislation changes that would benefit the national team, but unfortunately we the fans have created this monster. The same question needs to be asked abouth the number one sport in the world still not allowing refs the ability to overturn a poor decision via a replay. Every sport in the world uses this technology apart from football. You need to ask yourself why. FIFA are obviously corrupt but the FA should not and do not need to adhere to the crazy ramblings of Blat the t#@t. The reason I was so happy that saints had done so well over the past 5 seasons was (to quote Frank) they did it their own way. The Southampton way. This has proved such a revelation that now there are clubs up and down the country re-evaluating the importance of a good youth system...maybe the Southampton way will be responsable for changing a generations view of the importance of looking to produce homegrown talent above buying in foreign mercenaries. I for one am proud to call myself a saints fan, and indeed very proud of what we have achieved in a relatively short period. Lets see what the next five years bring. One thing for Shaw is that is never dull on the South coast.( Pun intended!). Spanish Santo
  • Score: 7

12:43am Mon 28 Jul 14

Scum0703 says...

http://www.youtube.c

om/watch?v=SMyOMDhfo

8c

We all need to wake up and do something about this. We as saints fans have been lied to. Football is a Business to make £ thats is that. A player can sign a contract for 5 years does not make jack sh1t
http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=SMyOMDhfo 8c We all need to wake up and do something about this. We as saints fans have been lied to. Football is a Business to make £ thats is that. A player can sign a contract for 5 years does not make jack sh1t Scum0703
  • Score: 4

12:46am Mon 28 Jul 14

Scum0703 says...

Scum0703 wrote:
http://www.youtube.c


om/watch?v=SMyOMDhfo


8c

We all need to wake up and do something about this. We as saints fans have been lied to. Football is a Business to make £ thats is that. A player can sign a contract for 5 years does not make jack sh1t
Les talking sh1t again zzzzzzzzzzzzzz
[quote][p][bold]Scum0703[/bold] wrote: http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=SMyOMDhfo 8c We all need to wake up and do something about this. We as saints fans have been lied to. Football is a Business to make £ thats is that. A player can sign a contract for 5 years does not make jack sh1t[/p][/quote]Les talking sh1t again zzzzzzzzzzzzzz Scum0703
  • Score: 0

12:51am Mon 28 Jul 14

Scum0703 says...

jls217 wrote:
Scum0703 wrote:
Scum0703 wrote:
Been a saints fan for 30 years and always will be to the day i die. But the way things are at the moment its a f'in joke sell sell sell. Am the only one thinking she is cashing in and do one?
http://www.dailymail


.co.uk/sport/footbal


l/article-2540218/Li


ebherr-dream-wrecker


-How-3bn-heiress-who


s-never-shown-footba


ll-ousted-man-Saints


-fans-believe-again.


html

says it all its all about the ££££££££££


££££££££££


£££££
It always was and always will be mate.

Not sure anyone should be making decisions based upon anything the Daily Mail writes. Now if it was in the Sun it would be different!
Daily Fail are up there with Les Reed mush.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scum0703[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scum0703[/bold] wrote: Been a saints fan for 30 years and always will be to the day i die. But the way things are at the moment its a f'in joke sell sell sell. Am the only one thinking she is cashing in and do one?[/p][/quote]http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2540218/Li ebherr-dream-wrecker -How-3bn-heiress-who s-never-shown-footba ll-ousted-man-Saints -fans-believe-again. html says it all its all about the ££££££££££ ££££££££££ £££££[/p][/quote]It always was and always will be mate. Not sure anyone should be making decisions based upon anything the Daily Mail writes. Now if it was in the Sun it would be different![/p][/quote]Daily Fail are up there with Les Reed mush. Scum0703
  • Score: -1

12:55am Mon 28 Jul 14

Block 42 says...

jls217 wrote:
Block 42 wrote:
red/whitearmy wrote:
What the hell is wrong with some fans. These players want to sod off and are no longer interested in playing for us so what are we supposed to do. Were selling them for higher profits , Pelle and Stadic are in , . So some of you would rather us keep players who no longer want to play for us. These players have **** on us and some on here want to blame the club. As far as im concerned to hell with the players who are not interested. We can have players who are interested and hungry. Not the clubs fault.
Great tadic and pelle...whilst ripping apart the entire spine and showing no ambition to keep poch...bet they will not spend the 100 plus million we aquire for these players.its a massive fail from a board who know nothing about football/soccer.I couldn't imagine man city chelsea man u psg napoli real mad barca or any other club who runs a tight business to carry on this way..its unprofessional and shows a massive middle finger to the fans.
They've already spent approx 20m of the money. You think Real Madrid run a tight business LOL.
So you honestly believe they will spend another 80 plus million????????I dint think so...and If they dont the fans should go mad..after all les reed did say all transfers fund raised will be spent.but having said all that..what kind of business rips apart the whole spine of the team..its so stupid.if feel like im taking crazy pills.do you actually see the sense?
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Block 42[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]red/whitearmy[/bold] wrote: What the hell is wrong with some fans. These players want to sod off and are no longer interested in playing for us so what are we supposed to do. Were selling them for higher profits , Pelle and Stadic are in , . So some of you would rather us keep players who no longer want to play for us. These players have **** on us and some on here want to blame the club. As far as im concerned to hell with the players who are not interested. We can have players who are interested and hungry. Not the clubs fault.[/p][/quote]Great tadic and pelle...whilst ripping apart the entire spine and showing no ambition to keep poch...bet they will not spend the 100 plus million we aquire for these players.its a massive fail from a board who know nothing about football/soccer.I couldn't imagine man city chelsea man u psg napoli real mad barca or any other club who runs a tight business to carry on this way..its unprofessional and shows a massive middle finger to the fans.[/p][/quote]They've already spent approx 20m of the money. You think Real Madrid run a tight business LOL.[/p][/quote]So you honestly believe they will spend another 80 plus million????????I dint think so...and If they dont the fans should go mad..after all les reed did say all transfers fund raised will be spent.but having said all that..what kind of business rips apart the whole spine of the team..its so stupid.if feel like im taking crazy pills.do you actually see the sense? Block 42
  • Score: 1

12:56am Mon 28 Jul 14

Saint1972 says...

Scum0703 wrote:
Scum0703 wrote:
Been a saints fan for 30 years and always will be to the day i die. But the way things are at the moment its a f'in joke sell sell sell. Am the only one thinking she is cashing in and do one?
http://www.dailymail

.co.uk/sport/footbal

l/article-2540218/Li

ebherr-dream-wrecker

-How-3bn-heiress-who

s-never-shown-footba

ll-ousted-man-Saints

-fans-believe-again.

html

says it all its all about the ££££££££££

££££££££££

£££££
I would advise every saints fan to read this article , not only is it the TRUTH , but it is prophetic , it was written 6 months ago

everything it said would probably happen HAS happened , losing our manager , mass exodus , the club in ruins etc

Read it.
[quote][p][bold]Scum0703[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Scum0703[/bold] wrote: Been a saints fan for 30 years and always will be to the day i die. But the way things are at the moment its a f'in joke sell sell sell. Am the only one thinking she is cashing in and do one?[/p][/quote]http://www.dailymail .co.uk/sport/footbal l/article-2540218/Li ebherr-dream-wrecker -How-3bn-heiress-who s-never-shown-footba ll-ousted-man-Saints -fans-believe-again. html says it all its all about the ££££££££££ ££££££££££ £££££[/p][/quote]I would advise every saints fan to read this article , not only is it the TRUTH , but it is prophetic , it was written 6 months ago everything it said would probably happen HAS happened , losing our manager , mass exodus , the club in ruins etc Read it. Saint1972
  • Score: 2

1:04am Mon 28 Jul 14

Rupert Lowe's Backside says...

exiledinyork wrote:
I rarely post, but often look at DE comments. Can we all just take deep breath? Lambert, absolute star who no one can begrudge a dream move to home town team. Adam "You've changed" Lallana being sold for at least £10M over market price after one good PL season. Shaw, £27M with Targett, who is a technically better LB in the wings. Chambers for £16M or around 700K a game (22 apps so far). Lovren; agitated a move from Lyon; agitated a move to Liverpool. £15M profit for a mercenary. Don't want Spider to go but pleased he's kept his trap shut .
Look on the bright side. If Kat wanted to sell she would have done two years ago. RK is a class appointment. The pipeline continues. (JWP, Targett, McQueen, Reed, Flannigan, McCarthy, Gallagher, Isgrove, Stephens, Sinclair). Two years ago who had heard of the £27M Shaw or the £16M Chambers. The point is that I absolutey feckin love this club and, despite what has happened this year, I do not ever ever ever want to go back to the days of Lowe and absolutely not the days of Branfoot, the genius who preferred "Oooh" Terry Hurlock to MLT.
The message from this Saints Til I Die of 40+ years standing is be careful what you wish for, look towards an amazing future and never ever believe what the red tops say. Word!
Great post...its just business! Thats it at the end of the day, and yes we now have to rebuild under RoKo -- but we have got some good coin!!

The only concern I have always had is that being a WC year, was RoKo going to have the time to get the players he needed, and get them working together as a 'team'...a champion team will always beat a team of champions (less here Brendon Rogers!!)
[quote][p][bold]exiledinyork[/bold] wrote: I rarely post, but often look at DE comments. Can we all just take deep breath? Lambert, absolute star who no one can begrudge a dream move to home town team. Adam "You've changed" Lallana being sold for at least £10M over market price after one good PL season. Shaw, £27M with Targett, who is a technically better LB in the wings. Chambers for £16M or around 700K a game (22 apps so far). Lovren; agitated a move from Lyon; agitated a move to Liverpool. £15M profit for a mercenary. Don't want Spider to go but pleased he's kept his trap shut . Look on the bright side. If Kat wanted to sell she would have done two years ago. RK is a class appointment. The pipeline continues. (JWP, Targett, McQueen, Reed, Flannigan, McCarthy, Gallagher, Isgrove, Stephens, Sinclair). Two years ago who had heard of the £27M Shaw or the £16M Chambers. The point is that I absolutey feckin love this club and, despite what has happened this year, I do not ever ever ever want to go back to the days of Lowe and absolutely not the days of Branfoot, the genius who preferred "Oooh" Terry Hurlock to MLT. The message from this Saints Til I Die of 40+ years standing is be careful what you wish for, look towards an amazing future and never ever believe what the red tops say. Word![/p][/quote]Great post...its just business! Thats it at the end of the day, and yes we now have to rebuild under RoKo -- but we have got some good coin!! The only concern I have always had is that being a WC year, was RoKo going to have the time to get the players he needed, and get them working together as a 'team'...a champion team will always beat a team of champions (less here Brendon Rogers!!) Rupert Lowe's Backside
  • Score: 1

1:25am Mon 28 Jul 14

Scum0703 says...

We offer 3 million for Fraser Forster. Says it all we got sh1t loads of cash in the bank and we do that. Embarrassing you are Les fu*k c*nt!
We offer 3 million for Fraser Forster. Says it all we got sh1t loads of cash in the bank and we do that. Embarrassing you are Les fu*k c*nt! Scum0703
  • Score: -2

2:02am Mon 28 Jul 14

Redslo says...

Gormzzz wrote:
Will be a fun season to manage the Saints on FM thats the only positive I can find. Tons of youngsters for the first team, and they'll probably let us spend MOST of the money we've received on transfers. All the people saying these we're just rumours and we shouldn't say anything negative on the subject until it's fact, can we be pessimistic now or do we still have to feel good. Lovren's a £20 mil bargain if we shell out £8 for Pelle and £9 for Forster. I'd love to see De Vrij and Classie signed tomorrow, maybe Depay if J Rod goes, would be nice if at all realistic.
Finally someone with the right priorities. FM 2015 should be very interesting.
[quote][p][bold]Gormzzz[/bold] wrote: Will be a fun season to manage the Saints on FM thats the only positive I can find. Tons of youngsters for the first team, and they'll probably let us spend MOST of the money we've received on transfers. All the people saying these we're just rumours and we shouldn't say anything negative on the subject until it's fact, can we be pessimistic now or do we still have to feel good. Lovren's a £20 mil bargain if we shell out £8 for Pelle and £9 for Forster. I'd love to see De Vrij and Classie signed tomorrow, maybe Depay if J Rod goes, would be nice if at all realistic.[/p][/quote]Finally someone with the right priorities. FM 2015 should be very interesting. Redslo
  • Score: 0

2:02am Mon 28 Jul 14

Redslo says...

Gormzzz wrote:
Will be a fun season to manage the Saints on FM thats the only positive I can find. Tons of youngsters for the first team, and they'll probably let us spend MOST of the money we've received on transfers. All the people saying these we're just rumours and we shouldn't say anything negative on the subject until it's fact, can we be pessimistic now or do we still have to feel good. Lovren's a £20 mil bargain if we shell out £8 for Pelle and £9 for Forster. I'd love to see De Vrij and Classie signed tomorrow, maybe Depay if J Rod goes, would be nice if at all realistic.
Finally someone with the right priorities. FM 2015 should be very interesting.
[quote][p][bold]Gormzzz[/bold] wrote: Will be a fun season to manage the Saints on FM thats the only positive I can find. Tons of youngsters for the first team, and they'll probably let us spend MOST of the money we've received on transfers. All the people saying these we're just rumours and we shouldn't say anything negative on the subject until it's fact, can we be pessimistic now or do we still have to feel good. Lovren's a £20 mil bargain if we shell out £8 for Pelle and £9 for Forster. I'd love to see De Vrij and Classie signed tomorrow, maybe Depay if J Rod goes, would be nice if at all realistic.[/p][/quote]Finally someone with the right priorities. FM 2015 should be very interesting. Redslo
  • Score: 0

2:32am Mon 28 Jul 14

Saint Jamie says...

No word of a thank you to the saints then Dejan?? Selfish money grabbing ******
No word of a thank you to the saints then Dejan?? Selfish money grabbing ****** Saint Jamie
  • Score: 2

5:57am Mon 28 Jul 14

BigBugBuzzz says...

A free and liberal labour market goes against team spirit.
A free and liberal labour market goes against team spirit. BigBugBuzzz
  • Score: 1

5:59am Mon 28 Jul 14

milton road says...

Remember as I have said before in the last 28 games of the first season with Fonte and Yoshida at the back ther was no difference in the second season last 28 games with Fonte and Lovren at the back. Whilst Yosh did not play most of the the first 10 games of a very hard start to the first season. Lovren played the first 10 of an exceptional start to the second when we let hardly any goals in, then Buroc got injured against Chelsea and Wanyama against Villa. Then we lost our way a bit and started to let in goals.
If you look at things Boruc never got a look in really until Poch took over in that first season we chopped and changed with Davis and Gazz, Yet after the first ten games the team only conceded 32 goals in 28 games. Compared to 39 goals in the second season in the last 28.
We had an easy start last season and it was that start that saw us in the top four and we did enough in the eleven games to be comfortable for the rest of the season. The last 28 games of both seasons yielded 37 points. So is Lovren really better than Yosh, yes they have different players and Lovren is more cultured but I am wondering if he is actually anymore effective. remember Yosh was in the defence which beat Chelsea Man City and Liverpool when Poch first came in, we were hardly as impressive against the big clubs last season, he was there for the draw away to Chelsea, the home draws to Everton and Arsenal. The goals against dried up when both Wanyama and Boruc were fit. Which seems to have been a factor more than Lovren in our fortunes. note the first eleven games and the last four when Wanyama was back and fit.
Remember as I have said before in the last 28 games of the first season with Fonte and Yoshida at the back ther was no difference in the second season last 28 games with Fonte and Lovren at the back. Whilst Yosh did not play most of the the first 10 games of a very hard start to the first season. Lovren played the first 10 of an exceptional start to the second when we let hardly any goals in, then Buroc got injured against Chelsea and Wanyama against Villa. Then we lost our way a bit and started to let in goals. If you look at things Boruc never got a look in really until Poch took over in that first season we chopped and changed with Davis and Gazz, Yet after the first ten games the team only conceded 32 goals in 28 games. Compared to 39 goals in the second season in the last 28. We had an easy start last season and it was that start that saw us in the top four and we did enough in the eleven games to be comfortable for the rest of the season. The last 28 games of both seasons yielded 37 points. So is Lovren really better than Yosh, yes they have different players and Lovren is more cultured but I am wondering if he is actually anymore effective. remember Yosh was in the defence which beat Chelsea Man City and Liverpool when Poch first came in, we were hardly as impressive against the big clubs last season, he was there for the draw away to Chelsea, the home draws to Everton and Arsenal. The goals against dried up when both Wanyama and Boruc were fit. Which seems to have been a factor more than Lovren in our fortunes. note the first eleven games and the last four when Wanyama was back and fit. milton road
  • Score: 10

6:08am Mon 28 Jul 14

BigBugBuzzz says...

Another night of sleep, another shift in sentiment. God I hate it, you would think I was bipolar! Yeah these are great prices and therefore good business IF we can close the loop and reinvest intelligently and timely.

BUT!

For the love of our club and the respect of us fans. Board, please COMMUNICATE! If your intentions are good, please share! If you are having a hard time, please share!

Most of us will be understanding, if your intentions are good, and you battle for us the best you can, but the stream of signals can quite simply be interpreted so negatively, so frighteningly, that you must simply say something to instill confidence in the hypothesis of good intentions!
Another night of sleep, another shift in sentiment. God I hate it, you would think I was bipolar! Yeah these are great prices and therefore good business IF we can close the loop and reinvest intelligently and timely. BUT! For the love of our club and the respect of us fans. Board, please COMMUNICATE! If your intentions are good, please share! If you are having a hard time, please share! Most of us will be understanding, if your intentions are good, and you battle for us the best you can, but the stream of signals can quite simply be interpreted so negatively, so frighteningly, that you must simply say something to instill confidence in the hypothesis of good intentions! BigBugBuzzz
  • Score: 5

6:08am Mon 28 Jul 14

Knackers says...

jls217 wrote:
Gormzzz wrote:
Great statement for the fans on the official site! I've wrote ten times longer on here.
So what exactly would you want the club to say to keep you happy. What do any of us really want to hear about Lovren any more. He's gone - good money. Most are happy - no big deal.
You have apologised for the boards incompetence throughout this whole thread.most are happy? No big deal. Most true fans are not happy and yes it is a big deal.you seem rather happy with the situation at st Mary's.
You think lovren is the last? Have the club tied up fonte and cork or jrod to new deals? No they haven't because the players have no belief in this board. Your like the small kid whistling in the dark to keep his spirits up.
Do you actually believe the things you right or are you taking lessons from Ralph on motivational speaking.
Where is our chairman by the way? That's right he's in the usa(conveniently close to his home) setting up a feeder uni. Yeah good work ,nothing like priorities and leading the club through stormy waters.
Speak for yourself in future not the real fans.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Gormzzz[/bold] wrote: Great statement for the fans on the official site! I've wrote ten times longer on here.[/p][/quote]So what exactly would you want the club to say to keep you happy. What do any of us really want to hear about Lovren any more. He's gone - good money. Most are happy - no big deal.[/p][/quote]You have apologised for the boards incompetence throughout this whole thread.most are happy? No big deal. Most true fans are not happy and yes it is a big deal.you seem rather happy with the situation at st Mary's. You think lovren is the last? Have the club tied up fonte and cork or jrod to new deals? No they haven't because the players have no belief in this board. Your like the small kid whistling in the dark to keep his spirits up. Do you actually believe the things you right or are you taking lessons from Ralph on motivational speaking. Where is our chairman by the way? That's right he's in the usa(conveniently close to his home) setting up a feeder uni. Yeah good work ,nothing like priorities and leading the club through stormy waters. Speak for yourself in future not the real fans. Knackers
  • Score: 22

6:47am Mon 28 Jul 14

Saint Jinx says...

There really should be FA legislation preventing a PL club from selling more than 1 player to any other single club and also I think that there should be a cap on the number of regular first team players that can be sold by a club in any one year. Supposedly the aim of a competition (PL) is to win it - not use it purely as a showcase to make money.
There really should be FA legislation preventing a PL club from selling more than 1 player to any other single club and also I think that there should be a cap on the number of regular first team players that can be sold by a club in any one year. Supposedly the aim of a competition (PL) is to win it - not use it purely as a showcase to make money. Saint Jinx
  • Score: 6

7:21am Mon 28 Jul 14

Saintsayer II says...

BumperSaint wrote:
Bought for 8.5 sold for 20 (potentially more), great bit of business. Just need to announce a decent CB in the next couple of days.....and I'll be more than happy. The guy would only damage team morale if he stayed, so let's get a fresh 8-10 mil (up for the cause) footballer bedded in ready for kick off...... In Ron we trust.
Do you really believe that we will spend all that income Les Reed said we would but it was probably just another lie Next thing we hear will be we are trying very hard to bring players in etc

It may be possible to replace a couple of players and retain the quality but not with 8/9 in one window
[quote][p][bold]BumperSaint[/bold] wrote: Bought for 8.5 sold for 20 (potentially more), great bit of business. Just need to announce a decent CB in the next couple of days.....and I'll be more than happy. The guy would only damage team morale if he stayed, so let's get a fresh 8-10 mil (up for the cause) footballer bedded in ready for kick off...... In Ron we trust.[/p][/quote]Do you really believe that we will spend all that income Les Reed said we would but it was probably just another lie Next thing we hear will be we are trying very hard to bring players in etc It may be possible to replace a couple of players and retain the quality but not with 8/9 in one window Saintsayer II
  • Score: 8

7:27am Mon 28 Jul 14

Bazultra says...

Lol makes me laugh how my post at the beginning of this thread Katerina out gets over 42 thumbs downs yet the post 4 before mine that says Les Reed out has 20 something thumbs up. This has all started from the top and the buck stops with her. Katerina get out of Southampton and take your cronies with you .I.
Lol makes me laugh how my post at the beginning of this thread Katerina out gets over 42 thumbs downs yet the post 4 before mine that says Les Reed out has 20 something thumbs up. This has all started from the top and the buck stops with her. Katerina get out of Southampton and take your cronies with you .I. Bazultra
  • Score: -1

7:32am Mon 28 Jul 14

saintbobby says...

exiledinyork wrote:
I rarely post, but often look at DE comments. Can we all just take deep breath? Lambert, absolute star who no one can begrudge a dream move to home town team. Adam "You've changed" Lallana being sold for at least £10M over market price after one good PL season. Shaw, £27M with Targett, who is a technically better LB in the wings. Chambers for £16M or around 700K a game (22 apps so far). Lovren; agitated a move from Lyon; agitated a move to Liverpool. £15M profit for a mercenary. Don't want Spider to go but pleased he's kept his trap shut .
Look on the bright side. If Kat wanted to sell she would have done two years ago. RK is a class appointment. The pipeline continues. (JWP, Targett, McQueen, Reed, Flannigan, McCarthy, Gallagher, Isgrove, Stephens, Sinclair). Two years ago who had heard of the £27M Shaw or the £16M Chambers. The point is that I absolutey feckin love this club and, despite what has happened this year, I do not ever ever ever want to go back to the days of Lowe and absolutely not the days of Branfoot, the genius who preferred "Oooh" Terry Hurlock to MLT.
The message from this Saints Til I Die of 40+ years standing is be careful what you wish for, look towards an amazing future and never ever believe what the red tops say. Word!
Well, mate as you are obviously one of the elders (!) may I ask you to post more often.

With Lovren gone, as expected, and then reading your post, I really feel top of the world! Also, I am sure there will be some new faces announced very soon, and that will improve our mood very much.

If you did not know, I have supported the Saints since 1959, and there are just 2 things I absolutely HATE.

I hate it when the Saints lose and actually I hate even more players who upset us by being disloyal and want away. Like most here, they are not Saints and will not get much of a welcome on their return - except Rickie!

COYR&WS!!
[quote][p][bold]exiledinyork[/bold] wrote: I rarely post, but often look at DE comments. Can we all just take deep breath? Lambert, absolute star who no one can begrudge a dream move to home town team. Adam "You've changed" Lallana being sold for at least £10M over market price after one good PL season. Shaw, £27M with Targett, who is a technically better LB in the wings. Chambers for £16M or around 700K a game (22 apps so far). Lovren; agitated a move from Lyon; agitated a move to Liverpool. £15M profit for a mercenary. Don't want Spider to go but pleased he's kept his trap shut . Look on the bright side. If Kat wanted to sell she would have done two years ago. RK is a class appointment. The pipeline continues. (JWP, Targett, McQueen, Reed, Flannigan, McCarthy, Gallagher, Isgrove, Stephens, Sinclair). Two years ago who had heard of the £27M Shaw or the £16M Chambers. The point is that I absolutey feckin love this club and, despite what has happened this year, I do not ever ever ever want to go back to the days of Lowe and absolutely not the days of Branfoot, the genius who preferred "Oooh" Terry Hurlock to MLT. The message from this Saints Til I Die of 40+ years standing is be careful what you wish for, look towards an amazing future and never ever believe what the red tops say. Word![/p][/quote]Well, mate as you are obviously one of the elders (!) may I ask you to post more often. With Lovren gone, as expected, and then reading your post, I really feel top of the world! Also, I am sure there will be some new faces announced very soon, and that will improve our mood very much. If you did not know, I have supported the Saints since 1959, and there are just 2 things I absolutely HATE. I hate it when the Saints lose and actually I hate even more players who upset us by being disloyal and want away. Like most here, they are not Saints and will not get much of a welcome on their return - except Rickie! COYR&WS!! saintbobby
  • Score: 6

7:48am Mon 28 Jul 14

warrens 76 says...

saintbobby wrote:
exiledinyork wrote:
I rarely post, but often look at DE comments. Can we all just take deep breath? Lambert, absolute star who no one can begrudge a dream move to home town team. Adam "You've changed" Lallana being sold for at least £10M over market price after one good PL season. Shaw, £27M with Targett, who is a technically better LB in the wings. Chambers for £16M or around 700K a game (22 apps so far). Lovren; agitated a move from Lyon; agitated a move to Liverpool. £15M profit for a mercenary. Don't want Spider to go but pleased he's kept his trap shut .
Look on the bright side. If Kat wanted to sell she would have done two years ago. RK is a class appointment. The pipeline continues. (JWP, Targett, McQueen, Reed, Flannigan, McCarthy, Gallagher, Isgrove, Stephens, Sinclair). Two years ago who had heard of the £27M Shaw or the £16M Chambers. The point is that I absolutey feckin love this club and, despite what has happened this year, I do not ever ever ever want to go back to the days of Lowe and absolutely not the days of Branfoot, the genius who preferred "Oooh" Terry Hurlock to MLT.
The message from this Saints Til I Die of 40+ years standing is be careful what you wish for, look towards an amazing future and never ever believe what the red tops say. Word!
Well, mate as you are obviously one of the elders (!) may I ask you to post more often.

With Lovren gone, as expected, and then reading your post, I really feel top of the world! Also, I am sure there will be some new faces announced very soon, and that will improve our mood very much.

If you did not know, I have supported the Saints since 1959, and there are just 2 things I absolutely HATE.

I hate it when the Saints lose and actually I hate even more players who upset us by being disloyal and want away. Like most here, they are not Saints and will not get much of a welcome on their return - except Rickie!

COYR&WS!!
The daily mail article printed some 6 months ago has inch perfect stated what was happening to our club…for a newspaper to get it So accurate which is hardly their forte suggests to me now that KL is liquidating her positions as this is much easier than a club sale in this day and age….sge knows and her advisors know that FFP rules prevent an Oligarch from landing, she would not leave Cortese in charge when he clearly knew what he was doing so go figure.

For those who think Cortese placed us in debt just getting LS to sign a long term contract paid off the entire Stapelwood contract! AL made a huge profit and covered Osvalo Lovren clear profit..and what were 2 promotions and staying in the prem worth..

I lay this at KL's door her father trusted NC and his vision why could'nt she.
[quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]exiledinyork[/bold] wrote: I rarely post, but often look at DE comments. Can we all just take deep breath? Lambert, absolute star who no one can begrudge a dream move to home town team. Adam "You've changed" Lallana being sold for at least £10M over market price after one good PL season. Shaw, £27M with Targett, who is a technically better LB in the wings. Chambers for £16M or around 700K a game (22 apps so far). Lovren; agitated a move from Lyon; agitated a move to Liverpool. £15M profit for a mercenary. Don't want Spider to go but pleased he's kept his trap shut . Look on the bright side. If Kat wanted to sell she would have done two years ago. RK is a class appointment. The pipeline continues. (JWP, Targett, McQueen, Reed, Flannigan, McCarthy, Gallagher, Isgrove, Stephens, Sinclair). Two years ago who had heard of the £27M Shaw or the £16M Chambers. The point is that I absolutey feckin love this club and, despite what has happened this year, I do not ever ever ever want to go back to the days of Lowe and absolutely not the days of Branfoot, the genius who preferred "Oooh" Terry Hurlock to MLT. The message from this Saints Til I Die of 40+ years standing is be careful what you wish for, look towards an amazing future and never ever believe what the red tops say. Word![/p][/quote]Well, mate as you are obviously one of the elders (!) may I ask you to post more often. With Lovren gone, as expected, and then reading your post, I really feel top of the world! Also, I am sure there will be some new faces announced very soon, and that will improve our mood very much. If you did not know, I have supported the Saints since 1959, and there are just 2 things I absolutely HATE. I hate it when the Saints lose and actually I hate even more players who upset us by being disloyal and want away. Like most here, they are not Saints and will not get much of a welcome on their return - except Rickie! COYR&WS!![/p][/quote]The daily mail article printed some 6 months ago has inch perfect stated what was happening to our club…for a newspaper to get it So accurate which is hardly their forte suggests to me now that KL is liquidating her positions as this is much easier than a club sale in this day and age….sge knows and her advisors know that FFP rules prevent an Oligarch from landing, she would not leave Cortese in charge when he clearly knew what he was doing so go figure. For those who think Cortese placed us in debt just getting LS to sign a long term contract paid off the entire Stapelwood contract! AL made a huge profit and covered Osvalo Lovren clear profit..and what were 2 promotions and staying in the prem worth.. I lay this at KL's door her father trusted NC and his vision why could'nt she. warrens 76
  • Score: -3

7:50am Mon 28 Jul 14

Linesman says...

An article in The People yesterday showed how much Premier League clubs charge for a season ticket and how much they have increased their price over last season's.

I find it strange that Liverpool, who have paid out £millions in transfer fees, have not upped their price, but Saints who have sold most of their team, have increased theirs.
An article in The People yesterday showed how much Premier League clubs charge for a season ticket and how much they have increased their price over last season's. I find it strange that Liverpool, who have paid out £millions in transfer fees, have not upped their price, but Saints who have sold most of their team, have increased theirs. Linesman
  • Score: 3

7:53am Mon 28 Jul 14

kingsaint76 says...

saintbobby wrote:
exiledinyork wrote:
I rarely post, but often look at DE comments. Can we all just take deep breath? Lambert, absolute star who no one can begrudge a dream move to home town team. Adam "You've changed" Lallana being sold for at least £10M over market price after one good PL season. Shaw, £27M with Targett, who is a technically better LB in the wings. Chambers for £16M or around 700K a game (22 apps so far). Lovren; agitated a move from Lyon; agitated a move to Liverpool. £15M profit for a mercenary. Don't want Spider to go but pleased he's kept his trap shut .
Look on the bright side. If Kat wanted to sell she would have done two years ago. RK is a class appointment. The pipeline continues. (JWP, Targett, McQueen, Reed, Flannigan, McCarthy, Gallagher, Isgrove, Stephens, Sinclair). Two years ago who had heard of the £27M Shaw or the £16M Chambers. The point is that I absolutey feckin love this club and, despite what has happened this year, I do not ever ever ever want to go back to the days of Lowe and absolutely not the days of Branfoot, the genius who preferred "Oooh" Terry Hurlock to MLT.
The message from this Saints Til I Die of 40+ years standing is be careful what you wish for, look towards an amazing future and never ever believe what the red tops say. Word!
Well, mate as you are obviously one of the elders (!) may I ask you to post more often.

With Lovren gone, as expected, and then reading your post, I really feel top of the world! Also, I am sure there will be some new faces announced very soon, and that will improve our mood very much.

If you did not know, I have supported the Saints since 1959, and there are just 2 things I absolutely HATE.

I hate it when the Saints lose and actually I hate even more players who upset us by being disloyal and want away. Like most here, they are not Saints and will not get much of a welcome on their return - except Rickie!

COYR&WS!!
Totally agree, I looked at the team sheet against Bournemouth and couldn't help but smile as all players leaving can be replaced from within, I agree some quality additions will be exciting and necessary to bolster the squad but no other prem team can lose so many top players make so much cash and still look to the next crop!
[quote][p][bold]saintbobby[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]exiledinyork[/bold] wrote: I rarely post, but often look at DE comments. Can we all just take deep breath? Lambert, absolute star who no one can begrudge a dream move to home town team. Adam "You've changed" Lallana being sold for at least £10M over market price after one good PL season. Shaw, £27M with Targett, who is a technically better LB in the wings. Chambers for £16M or around 700K a game (22 apps so far). Lovren; agitated a move from Lyon; agitated a move to Liverpool. £15M profit for a mercenary. Don't want Spider to go but pleased he's kept his trap shut . Look on the bright side. If Kat wanted to sell she would have done two years ago. RK is a class appointment. The pipeline continues. (JWP, Targett, McQueen, Reed, Flannigan, McCarthy, Gallagher, Isgrove, Stephens, Sinclair). Two years ago who had heard of the £27M Shaw or the £16M Chambers. The point is that I absolutey feckin love this club and, despite what has happened this year, I do not ever ever ever want to go back to the days of Lowe and absolutely not the days of Branfoot, the genius who preferred "Oooh" Terry Hurlock to MLT. The message from this Saints Til I Die of 40+ years standing is be careful what you wish for, look towards an amazing future and never ever believe what the red tops say. Word![/p][/quote]Well, mate as you are obviously one of the elders (!) may I ask you to post more often. With Lovren gone, as expected, and then reading your post, I really feel top of the world! Also, I am sure there will be some new faces announced very soon, and that will improve our mood very much. If you did not know, I have supported the Saints since 1959, and there are just 2 things I absolutely HATE. I hate it when the Saints lose and actually I hate even more players who upset us by being disloyal and want away. Like most here, they are not Saints and will not get much of a welcome on their return - except Rickie! COYR&WS!![/p][/quote]Totally agree, I looked at the team sheet against Bournemouth and couldn't help but smile as all players leaving can be replaced from within, I agree some quality additions will be exciting and necessary to bolster the squad but no other prem team can lose so many top players make so much cash and still look to the next crop! kingsaint76
  • Score: 5

7:54am Mon 28 Jul 14

andy newbury says...

what has happened is now gone and will not be altered, I am not happy with what is going on but for the sake of our club all we can do now is trust in RK to get the team to play together as a unit doing the best they can and we may even be amazed at the results, so come all you saints supporters lets get behind the team and cheer them on big time at our first games (home and away). the management know by now the extent of displeasure of us supporters, lets see how they react to it.we have always supported the team but not always the management but it,s to close to the start of the season to upset the morale of the team and if it is to be made up of some new youngsters then they need our support more than the more seasoned players. up the SAINTS
what has happened is now gone and will not be altered, I am not happy with what is going on but for the sake of our club all we can do now is trust in RK to get the team to play together as a unit doing the best they can and we may even be amazed at the results, so come all you saints supporters lets get behind the team and cheer them on big time at our first games (home and away). the management know by now the extent of displeasure of us supporters, lets see how they react to it.we have always supported the team but not always the management but it,s to close to the start of the season to upset the morale of the team and if it is to be made up of some new youngsters then they need our support more than the more seasoned players. up the SAINTS andy newbury
  • Score: 4

8:04am Mon 28 Jul 14

ctsaint says...

Jesus_02 wrote:
steekeemcglue wrote:
fcuk off Lovren,,,, bravo Saints... Easy to get CBs for half that money... anyone who criticises Saints over this is not a real fan. You may buy the cheap sh1t that passes for a kit ( thanks Nicola for that one ) but you are not a real fan... keep your gobs shut until this all pans out and respect the people that made Premiership football a reality in the first place.... that will be the owners.
Anyone that agree's with this t1t is not a real fan. He is obviously the sort if person that backs up his opinion with "FACT". What has Cortese got to do with the kit he was forced out before we decided to "make our own" (I actually think they are ok) . They are red and white FACT
Cortese messed up our deal with Adidas and they refused to help out when he left and we went back to them cap in hand.
[quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]steekeemcglue[/bold] wrote: fcuk off Lovren,,,, bravo Saints... Easy to get CBs for half that money... anyone who criticises Saints over this is not a real fan. You may buy the cheap sh1t that passes for a kit ( thanks Nicola for that one ) but you are not a real fan... keep your gobs shut until this all pans out and respect the people that made Premiership football a reality in the first place.... that will be the owners.[/p][/quote]Anyone that agree's with this t1t is not a real fan. He is obviously the sort if person that backs up his opinion with "FACT". What has Cortese got to do with the kit he was forced out before we decided to "make our own" (I actually think they are ok) . They are red and white FACT[/p][/quote]Cortese messed up our deal with Adidas and they refused to help out when he left and we went back to them cap in hand. ctsaint
  • Score: 0

8:07am Mon 28 Jul 14

Golden_Salamander says...

I've been a Saints fan for 50+ years and a ST holder for 25 years (bar 1 when RL came back).

However this is the WORST Board I have know running this Football Club in that time, where the "Football side" of the Company is being run down and SOLD by the back door.

When Nicola first left he said that Kat was trying to sell the club.
(I did hear a rumour that it was to pay Death Duties on her father's estate).
However selling a football is not easy at the moment e.g. Villa have been for sale for over a year without any takers. She has additional problems that Nicola was such a good businessman by turning a £15m Company into a Club worth at least TEN Times in 5 years and the CAPITAL GAINS TAX payable on that sale would be vast. It is easier to SELL the ASSETS first in that no tax is payable and then sell the remains of the Company at a later date for a reduced price.

It is interesting that the Mail says that CLUELESS Ralph has not been at the Club for the last 6 weeks. has be already gone ?
I've been a Saints fan for 50+ years and a ST holder for 25 years (bar 1 when RL came back). However this is the WORST Board I have know running this Football Club in that time, where the "Football side" of the Company is being run down and SOLD by the back door. When Nicola first left he said that Kat was trying to sell the club. (I did hear a rumour that it was to pay Death Duties on her father's estate). However selling a football is not easy at the moment e.g. Villa have been for sale for over a year without any takers. She has additional problems that Nicola was such a good businessman by turning a £15m Company into a Club worth at least TEN Times in 5 years and the CAPITAL GAINS TAX payable on that sale would be vast. It is easier to SELL the ASSETS first in that no tax is payable and then sell the remains of the Company at a later date for a reduced price. It is interesting that the Mail says that CLUELESS Ralph has not been at the Club for the last 6 weeks. has be already gone ? Golden_Salamander
  • Score: 3

8:14am Mon 28 Jul 14

Crossley Place Saint says...

" The fans will know from the first minute that I'm a player that will give 100 per cent on the pitch."

That is, for 8 or 9 months until Liverpool fail to qualify for the 2015/16 Champions League, and his agent gets an even bigger club to offer him even more money. Then it will be "After I played at last season, I said to myself: 'One day I hope I'll be able to play here....'.
" The fans will know from the first minute that I'm a player that will give 100 per cent on the pitch." That is, for 8 or 9 months until Liverpool fail to qualify for the 2015/16 Champions League, and his agent gets an even bigger club to offer him even more money. Then it will be "After I played at [Juventus / PSG / Madrid / Munich etc] last season, I said to myself: 'One day I hope I'll be able to play here....'. Crossley Place Saint
  • Score: 3

8:17am Mon 28 Jul 14

BarnetSaint says...

The best possible outcome from all of this is that with the club on secure financial footing, excellent infrastructure, facilities and potential large fan base, is for Liebher to sell up and move on.
She does not have the desire, inclination or willingness to move the club forward.
New owners would certainly despatch with the services of the ice hockey bloke and his side kick reed.
They have shown themselves to be totally inept.
Onwards and upwards.
Ps. Lovren, good riddance you complete and utter, sulking waste of space.
The best possible outcome from all of this is that with the club on secure financial footing, excellent infrastructure, facilities and potential large fan base, is for Liebher to sell up and move on. She does not have the desire, inclination or willingness to move the club forward. New owners would certainly despatch with the services of the ice hockey bloke and his side kick reed. They have shown themselves to be totally inept. Onwards and upwards. Ps. Lovren, good riddance you complete and utter, sulking waste of space. BarnetSaint
  • Score: 0

8:27am Mon 28 Jul 14

Stnana says...

southcoast62 wrote:
exiledinyork wrote:
I rarely post, but often look at DE comments. Can we all just take deep breath? Lambert, absolute star who no one can begrudge a dream move to home town team. Adam "You've changed" Lallana being sold for at least £10M over market price after one good PL season. Shaw, £27M with Targett, who is a technically better LB in the wings. Chambers for £16M or around 700K a game (22 apps so far). Lovren; agitated a move from Lyon; agitated a move to Liverpool. £15M profit for a mercenary. Don't want Spider to go but pleased he's kept his trap shut .
Look on the bright side. If Kat wanted to sell she would have done two years ago. RK is a class appointment. The pipeline continues. (JWP, Targett, McQueen, Reed, Flannigan, McCarthy, Gallagher, Isgrove, Stephens, Sinclair). Two years ago who had heard of the £27M Shaw or the £16M Chambers. The point is that I absolutey feckin love this club and, despite what has happened this year, I do not ever ever ever want to go back to the days of Lowe and absolutely not the days of Branfoot, the genius who preferred "Oooh" Terry Hurlock to MLT.
The message from this Saints Til I Die of 40+ years standing is be careful what you wish for, look towards an amazing future and never ever believe what the red tops say. Word!
Ok let's see and you know I hope your rig
Spider's kept his trap shut ? He's been on Twitter congratulating Lovren on his move ! Shaw has been getting a load of abuse for doing the same thing . Both of them could of course have sent a private text message but have chosen to make a public statement. I know it's of no consequence to us what Shaw does but what does this tell us about Spider ? Is he on his way too or is he just as dopey as Shaw is supposed to be ?
[quote][p][bold]southcoast62[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]exiledinyork[/bold] wrote: I rarely post, but often look at DE comments. Can we all just take deep breath? Lambert, absolute star who no one can begrudge a dream move to home town team. Adam "You've changed" Lallana being sold for at least £10M over market price after one good PL season. Shaw, £27M with Targett, who is a technically better LB in the wings. Chambers for £16M or around 700K a game (22 apps so far). Lovren; agitated a move from Lyon; agitated a move to Liverpool. £15M profit for a mercenary. Don't want Spider to go but pleased he's kept his trap shut . Look on the bright side. If Kat wanted to sell she would have done two years ago. RK is a class appointment. The pipeline continues. (JWP, Targett, McQueen, Reed, Flannigan, McCarthy, Gallagher, Isgrove, Stephens, Sinclair). Two years ago who had heard of the £27M Shaw or the £16M Chambers. The point is that I absolutey feckin love this club and, despite what has happened this year, I do not ever ever ever want to go back to the days of Lowe and absolutely not the days of Branfoot, the genius who preferred "Oooh" Terry Hurlock to MLT. The message from this Saints Til I Die of 40+ years standing is be careful what you wish for, look towards an amazing future and never ever believe what the red tops say. Word![/p][/quote]Ok let's see and you know I hope your rig[/p][/quote]Spider's kept his trap shut ? He's been on Twitter congratulating Lovren on his move ! Shaw has been getting a load of abuse for doing the same thing . Both of them could of course have sent a private text message but have chosen to make a public statement. I know it's of no consequence to us what Shaw does but what does this tell us about Spider ? Is he on his way too or is he just as dopey as Shaw is supposed to be ? Stnana
  • Score: 4

8:29am Mon 28 Jul 14

Crossley Place Saint says...

The Telegraph is reporting this morning that the Chambers move to Arsenal is a done deal, Calum has even had his medical. I am beginning to wonder if Ralph actually thinks that the Premier League has a draft system like the American ice hockey league... where the club with the weakest team at the start of the season gets first pick to sign newly available players?
The Telegraph is reporting this morning that the Chambers move to Arsenal is a done deal, Calum has even had his medical. I am beginning to wonder if Ralph actually thinks that the Premier League has a draft system like the American ice hockey league... where the club with the weakest team at the start of the season gets first pick to sign newly available players? Crossley Place Saint
  • Score: 1

8:35am Mon 28 Jul 14

NiftyNorthy says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
InCortesewetrust wrote:
Come back!! save us again Cortese, yes markus money but Cortese was the architect! His vision his dream, he done nothing wrong the whole time, building a strong foundation and excellent team spirit 5 year's, it takes 5 month's for krugger and les to F it all up,,
Bang on the money! A dream needlessly destroyed.
Absolute nonsense . NC was running up massive debts without putting one cent of his own money in . He was paying himself a fortune with someone else's money and refused proper governance ie a board to hold him to account.
That is like you giving me your business to run and me refusing to let you have a say while I run up huge debts.
NC had a vision but it was a fantasy. Left to his own we would eventually have gone broke .
Any one who bought into his fantasy world is a complete dreamer . Dreams are fine but must be realistic and sustainable if we are going to survive long term in the premiership . Look at Leeds they followed a fantasy. Get real .
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InCortesewetrust[/bold] wrote: Come back!! save us again Cortese, yes markus money but Cortese was the architect! His vision his dream, he done nothing wrong the whole time, building a strong foundation and excellent team spirit 5 year's, it takes 5 month's for krugger and les to F it all up,,[/p][/quote]Bang on the money! A dream needlessly destroyed.[/p][/quote]Absolute nonsense . NC was running up massive debts without putting one cent of his own money in . He was paying himself a fortune with someone else's money and refused proper governance ie a board to hold him to account. That is like you giving me your business to run and me refusing to let you have a say while I run up huge debts. NC had a vision but it was a fantasy. Left to his own we would eventually have gone broke . Any one who bought into his fantasy world is a complete dreamer . Dreams are fine but must be realistic and sustainable if we are going to survive long term in the premiership . Look at Leeds they followed a fantasy. Get real . NiftyNorthy
  • Score: 3

8:43am Mon 28 Jul 14

Positively4thStreet says...

NiftyNorthy wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
InCortesewetrust wrote:
Come back!! save us again Cortese, yes markus money but Cortese was the architect! His vision his dream, he done nothing wrong the whole time, building a strong foundation and excellent team spirit 5 year's, it takes 5 month's for krugger and les to F it all up,,
Bang on the money! A dream needlessly destroyed.
Absolute nonsense . NC was running up massive debts without putting one cent of his own money in . He was paying himself a fortune with someone else's money and refused proper governance ie a board to hold him to account.
That is like you giving me your business to run and me refusing to let you have a say while I run up huge debts.
NC had a vision but it was a fantasy. Left to his own we would eventually have gone broke .
Any one who bought into his fantasy world is a complete dreamer . Dreams are fine but must be realistic and sustainable if we are going to survive long term in the premiership . Look at Leeds they followed a fantasy. Get real .
Well,we'll never know now,will we?
All I know is that Cortese had us about 30 ft from the top of Everest, and with a little bit of luck,we could have summited this coming season.For some reason,the Sherpas decided we couldn't make that last push for the summit,and decided to come back down again.But,as any mountaineer will tell you,it can be just as dangerous,coming back down again.
[quote][p][bold]NiftyNorthy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InCortesewetrust[/bold] wrote: Come back!! save us again Cortese, yes markus money but Cortese was the architect! His vision his dream, he done nothing wrong the whole time, building a strong foundation and excellent team spirit 5 year's, it takes 5 month's for krugger and les to F it all up,,[/p][/quote]Bang on the money! A dream needlessly destroyed.[/p][/quote]Absolute nonsense . NC was running up massive debts without putting one cent of his own money in . He was paying himself a fortune with someone else's money and refused proper governance ie a board to hold him to account. That is like you giving me your business to run and me refusing to let you have a say while I run up huge debts. NC had a vision but it was a fantasy. Left to his own we would eventually have gone broke . Any one who bought into his fantasy world is a complete dreamer . Dreams are fine but must be realistic and sustainable if we are going to survive long term in the premiership . Look at Leeds they followed a fantasy. Get real .[/p][/quote]Well,we'll never know now,will we? All I know is that Cortese had us about 30 ft from the top of Everest, and with a little bit of luck,we could have summited this coming season.For some reason,the Sherpas decided we couldn't make that last push for the summit,and decided to come back down again.But,as any mountaineer will tell you,it can be just as dangerous,coming back down again. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 1

8:44am Mon 28 Jul 14

killared says...

Lovren had ONE good season in the EPL and now he's gone to LOSERPOOL for 20 million ! hahahaha way to go SAINTS that's business ! Lyon Chairman laugh at us when we bought him saying he's average which he is and I'm not saying that because I'm bitter but he didn't cut it in the Champions League and now we are 20 million up !
Lovren had ONE good season in the EPL and now he's gone to LOSERPOOL for 20 million ! hahahaha way to go SAINTS that's business ! Lyon Chairman laugh at us when we bought him saying he's average which he is and I'm not saying that because I'm bitter but he didn't cut it in the Champions League and now we are 20 million up ! killared
  • Score: 4

8:52am Mon 28 Jul 14

Wembley76 says...

Linesman wrote:
An article in The People yesterday showed how much Premier League clubs charge for a season ticket and how much they have increased their price over last season's.

I find it strange that Liverpool, who have paid out £millions in transfer fees, have not upped their price, but Saints who have sold most of their team, have increased theirs.
Maybe finishing 2nd, being in the Champions Lge, and selling Suarez for over £75 has something to do with it? Btw, how do the Liverpool fans feel about these acquisitions....seem
s a little strange they are spending so much on players who achieved 8th position last year....I suspect they may be a little confused by Brenda's transfer policy.....Mark Wright has come out today saying Lovren is over-priced, and whilst he is a good player, is he really worth so much....I remember some big mistakes in some crucial games...Lallana has only had one 'good' season in the Premiership, and Lambert's clock is running fast...I suspect there may be some 'red faces' at the end of the season....and finally 16m for an ok right back is 'crazy money'...good prospect but only a handful of games under his belt...all this has been 'good business'....be patient Saints fans...exciting season ahead
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: An article in The People yesterday showed how much Premier League clubs charge for a season ticket and how much they have increased their price over last season's. I find it strange that Liverpool, who have paid out £millions in transfer fees, have not upped their price, but Saints who have sold most of their team, have increased theirs.[/p][/quote]Maybe finishing 2nd, being in the Champions Lge, and selling Suarez for over £75 has something to do with it? Btw, how do the Liverpool fans feel about these acquisitions....seem s a little strange they are spending so much on players who achieved 8th position last year....I suspect they may be a little confused by Brenda's transfer policy.....Mark Wright has come out today saying Lovren is over-priced, and whilst he is a good player, is he really worth so much....I remember some big mistakes in some crucial games...Lallana has only had one 'good' season in the Premiership, and Lambert's clock is running fast...I suspect there may be some 'red faces' at the end of the season....and finally 16m for an ok right back is 'crazy money'...good prospect but only a handful of games under his belt...all this has been 'good business'....be patient Saints fans...exciting season ahead Wembley76
  • Score: 3

8:56am Mon 28 Jul 14

InsideOutCat says...

jls217 wrote:
Saintsincethe60s wrote:
Let's cut out the cancer within our club, that was started by Cortese and continued by the slimy argie and move on with players that want to be here.

If there are any more then raise your head above the parapet and p!ss off, we don't want or need anybody without the right attitude at our club , we can rebuild with the over inflated fees
With you on everything but one point mate.

He, for sure, is a slimy ex manager but his nationality has nothing to do with any wrongdoing here. He is just a nasty slimy little two faced manager. The only thing worse than hatred is irrational hatred and there are those who might argue that all hatred is irrational (I'm yet to make my mind up on that one)
He's nasty and slimy AND an argie, but not necessarily BECAUSE of it. Better?
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintsincethe60s[/bold] wrote: Let's cut out the cancer within our club, that was started by Cortese and continued by the slimy argie and move on with players that want to be here. If there are any more then raise your head above the parapet and p!ss off, we don't want or need anybody without the right attitude at our club , we can rebuild with the over inflated fees[/p][/quote]With you on everything but one point mate. He, for sure, is a slimy ex manager but his nationality has nothing to do with any wrongdoing here. He is just a nasty slimy little two faced manager. The only thing worse than hatred is irrational hatred and there are those who might argue that all hatred is irrational (I'm yet to make my mind up on that one)[/p][/quote]He's nasty and slimy AND an argie, but not necessarily BECAUSE of it. Better? InsideOutCat
  • Score: 1

9:03am Mon 28 Jul 14

Wembley76 says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
NiftyNorthy wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
InCortesewetrust wrote:
Come back!! save us again Cortese, yes markus money but Cortese was the architect! His vision his dream, he done nothing wrong the whole time, building a strong foundation and excellent team spirit 5 year's, it takes 5 month's for krugger and les to F it all up,,
Bang on the money! A dream needlessly destroyed.
Absolute nonsense . NC was running up massive debts without putting one cent of his own money in . He was paying himself a fortune with someone else's money and refused proper governance ie a board to hold him to account.
That is like you giving me your business to run and me refusing to let you have a say while I run up huge debts.
NC had a vision but it was a fantasy. Left to his own we would eventually have gone broke .
Any one who bought into his fantasy world is a complete dreamer . Dreams are fine but must be realistic and sustainable if we are going to survive long term in the premiership . Look at Leeds they followed a fantasy. Get real .
Well,we'll never know now,will we?
All I know is that Cortese had us about 30 ft from the top of Everest, and with a little bit of luck,we could have summited this coming season.For some reason,the Sherpas decided we couldn't make that last push for the summit,and decided to come back down again.But,as any mountaineer will tell you,it can be just as dangerous,coming back down again.
When will we acknowledge that it is virtually impossible to break into the top four in the absence of investing £100's of millions....Man City and Chelsea have done it, but only through massive spending from billionaire owners....we are lucky to have the owners we have...they got us out of trouble when we were desperate with few options on the table and have helped us to become established as a top 10 team. by investing millions step by step in a reasonable and pragmatic way...pretty good work i.m.o...so let's stop 'slagging' them off, acting like spoilt kids, and for goodness sake let's stop imagining Corstese was some kind of 'Saint' ..we should be congratulating and showing gratitude to the owners....otherwise they may just get fed up and decide to sell....(VIlla / Leeds / Portsmouth etc)
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NiftyNorthy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InCortesewetrust[/bold] wrote: Come back!! save us again Cortese, yes markus money but Cortese was the architect! His vision his dream, he done nothing wrong the whole time, building a strong foundation and excellent team spirit 5 year's, it takes 5 month's for krugger and les to F it all up,,[/p][/quote]Bang on the money! A dream needlessly destroyed.[/p][/quote]Absolute nonsense . NC was running up massive debts without putting one cent of his own money in . He was paying himself a fortune with someone else's money and refused proper governance ie a board to hold him to account. That is like you giving me your business to run and me refusing to let you have a say while I run up huge debts. NC had a vision but it was a fantasy. Left to his own we would eventually have gone broke . Any one who bought into his fantasy world is a complete dreamer . Dreams are fine but must be realistic and sustainable if we are going to survive long term in the premiership . Look at Leeds they followed a fantasy. Get real .[/p][/quote]Well,we'll never know now,will we? All I know is that Cortese had us about 30 ft from the top of Everest, and with a little bit of luck,we could have summited this coming season.For some reason,the Sherpas decided we couldn't make that last push for the summit,and decided to come back down again.But,as any mountaineer will tell you,it can be just as dangerous,coming back down again.[/p][/quote]When will we acknowledge that it is virtually impossible to break into the top four in the absence of investing £100's of millions....Man City and Chelsea have done it, but only through massive spending from billionaire owners....we are lucky to have the owners we have...they got us out of trouble when we were desperate with few options on the table and have helped us to become established as a top 10 team. by investing millions step by step in a reasonable and pragmatic way...pretty good work i.m.o...so let's stop 'slagging' them off, acting like spoilt kids, and for goodness sake let's stop imagining Corstese was some kind of 'Saint' ..we should be congratulating and showing gratitude to the owners....otherwise they may just get fed up and decide to sell....(VIlla / Leeds / Portsmouth etc) Wembley76
  • Score: 2

9:04am Mon 28 Jul 14

Positively4thStreet says...

InsideOutCat wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Saintsincethe60s wrote:
Let's cut out the cancer within our club, that was started by Cortese and continued by the slimy argie and move on with players that want to be here.

If there are any more then raise your head above the parapet and p!ss off, we don't want or need anybody without the right attitude at our club , we can rebuild with the over inflated fees
With you on everything but one point mate.

He, for sure, is a slimy ex manager but his nationality has nothing to do with any wrongdoing here. He is just a nasty slimy little two faced manager. The only thing worse than hatred is irrational hatred and there are those who might argue that all hatred is irrational (I'm yet to make my mind up on that one)
He's nasty and slimy AND an argie, but not necessarily BECAUSE of it. Better?
Might be after a Snickers.
[quote][p][bold]InsideOutCat[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintsincethe60s[/bold] wrote: Let's cut out the cancer within our club, that was started by Cortese and continued by the slimy argie and move on with players that want to be here. If there are any more then raise your head above the parapet and p!ss off, we don't want or need anybody without the right attitude at our club , we can rebuild with the over inflated fees[/p][/quote]With you on everything but one point mate. He, for sure, is a slimy ex manager but his nationality has nothing to do with any wrongdoing here. He is just a nasty slimy little two faced manager. The only thing worse than hatred is irrational hatred and there are those who might argue that all hatred is irrational (I'm yet to make my mind up on that one)[/p][/quote]He's nasty and slimy AND an argie, but not necessarily BECAUSE of it. Better?[/p][/quote]Might be after a Snickers. Positively4thStreet
  • Score: 0

9:08am Mon 28 Jul 14

Positively4thStreet says...

Wembley76 wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
NiftyNorthy wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
InCortesewetrust wrote:
Come back!! save us again Cortese, yes markus money but Cortese was the architect! His vision his dream, he done nothing wrong the whole time, building a strong foundation and excellent team spirit 5 year's, it takes 5 month's for krugger and les to F it all up,,
Bang on the money! A dream needlessly destroyed.
Absolute nonsense . NC was running up massive debts without putting one cent of his own money in . He was paying himself a fortune with someone else's money and refused proper governance ie a board to hold him to account.
That is like you giving me your business to run and me refusing to let you have a say while I run up huge debts.
NC had a vision but it was a fantasy. Left to his own we would eventually have gone broke .
Any one who bought into his fantasy world is a complete dreamer . Dreams are fine but must be realistic and sustainable if we are going to survive long term in the premiership . Look at Leeds they followed a fantasy. Get real .
Well,we'll never know now,will we?
All I know is that Cortese had us about 30 ft from the top of Everest, and with a little bit of luck,we could have summited this coming season.For some reason,the Sherpas decided we couldn't make that last push for the summit,and decided to come back down again.But,as any mountaineer will tell you,it can be just as dangerous,coming back down again.
When will we acknowledge that it is virtually impossible to break into the top four in the absence of investing £100's of millions....Man City and Chelsea have done it, but only through massive spending from billionaire owners....we are lucky to have the owners we have...they got us out of trouble when we were desperate with few options on the table and have helped us to become established as a top 10 team. by investing millions step by step in a reasonable and pragmatic way...pretty good work i.m.o...so let's stop 'slagging' them off, acting like spoilt kids, and for goodness sake let's stop imagining Corstese was some kind of 'Saint' ..we should be congratulating and showing gratitude to the owners....otherwise they may just get fed up and decide to sell....(VIlla / Leeds / Portsmouth etc)
Yes,but we all know in our case,all we had to do was keep the team together, and buy three more decent players.If it didn't work out after that,fair enough,but someone didn't want it,did they?
[quote][p][bold]Wembley76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NiftyNorthy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InCortesewetrust[/bold] wrote: Come back!! save us again Cortese, yes markus money but Cortese was the architect! His vision his dream, he done nothing wrong the whole time, building a strong foundation and excellent team spirit 5 year's, it takes 5 month's for krugger and les to F it all up,,[/p][/quote]Bang on the money! A dream needlessly destroyed.[/p][/quote]Absolute nonsense . NC was running up massive debts without putting one cent of his own money in . He was paying himself a fortune with someone else's money and refused proper governance ie a board to hold him to account. That is like you giving me your business to run and me refusing to let you have a say while I run up huge debts. NC had a vision but it was a fantasy. Left to his own we would eventually have gone broke . Any one who bought into his fantasy world is a complete dreamer . Dreams are fine but must be realistic and sustainable if we are going to survive long term in the premiership . Look at Leeds they followed a fantasy. Get real .[/p][/quote]Well,we'll never know now,will we? All I know is that Cortese had us about 30 ft from the top of Everest, and with a little bit of luck,we could have summited this coming season.For some reason,the Sherpas decided we couldn't make that last push for the summit,and decided to come back down again.But,as any mountaineer will tell you,it can be just as dangerous,coming back down again.[/p][/quote]When will we acknowledge that it is virtually impossible to break into the top four in the absence of investing £100's of millions....Man City and Chelsea have done it, but only through massive spending from billionaire owners....we are lucky to have the owners we have...they got us out of trouble when we were desperate with few options on the table and have helped us to become established as a top 10 team. by investing millions step by step in a reasonable and pragmatic way...pretty good work i.m.o...so let's stop 'slagging' them off, acting like spoilt kids, and for goodness sake let's stop imagining Corstese was some kind of 'Saint' ..we should be congratulating and showing gratitude to the owners....otherwise they may just get fed up and decide to sell....(VIlla / Leeds / Portsmouth etc)[/p][/quote]Yes,but we all know in our case,all we had to do was keep the team together, and buy three more decent players.If it didn't work out after that,fair enough,but someone didn't want it,did they? Positively4thStreet
  • Score: -2

9:38am Mon 28 Jul 14

Blue means Success says...

Wembley76 wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
NiftyNorthy wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
InCortesewetrust wrote:
Come back!! save us again Cortese, yes markus money but Cortese was the architect! His vision his dream, he done nothing wrong the whole time, building a strong foundation and excellent team spirit 5 year's, it takes 5 month's for krugger and les to F it all up,,
Bang on the money! A dream needlessly destroyed.
Absolute nonsense . NC was running up massive debts without putting one cent of his own money in . He was paying himself a fortune with someone else's money and refused proper governance ie a board to hold him to account.
That is like you giving me your business to run and me refusing to let you have a say while I run up huge debts.
NC had a vision but it was a fantasy. Left to his own we would eventually have gone broke .
Any one who bought into his fantasy world is a complete dreamer . Dreams are fine but must be realistic and sustainable if we are going to survive long term in the premiership . Look at Leeds they followed a fantasy. Get real .
Well,we'll never know now,will we?
All I know is that Cortese had us about 30 ft from the top of Everest, and with a little bit of luck,we could have summited this coming season.For some reason,the Sherpas decided we couldn't make that last push for the summit,and decided to come back down again.But,as any mountaineer will tell you,it can be just as dangerous,coming back down again.
When will we acknowledge that it is virtually impossible to break into the top four in the absence of investing £100's of millions....Man City and Chelsea have done it, but only through massive spending from billionaire owners....we are lucky to have the owners we have...they got us out of trouble when we were desperate with few options on the table and have helped us to become established as a top 10 team. by investing millions step by step in a reasonable and pragmatic way...pretty good work i.m.o...so let's stop 'slagging' them off, acting like spoilt kids, and for goodness sake let's stop imagining Corstese was some kind of 'Saint' ..we should be congratulating and showing gratitude to the owners....otherwise they may just get fed up and decide to sell....(VIlla / Leeds / Portsmouth etc)
I cant remember the last time I saw a club get as close to the top without ploughing loads of money in. Ipswich and Forest in the 80's? Times have changed since then - as players are now very greedy.

You'll probably never get another chance of breaking in to the top 4. Maybe on reflexion you could have rewarded the layers with a pay rise - and started a stadium expansion in the close season. The sale of Shaw and Lambert alone would have paid for it. All the money received will mean nothing without continual improvement of the team. How easy will it be to get back to the PL if you have a really bad season
[quote][p][bold]Wembley76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NiftyNorthy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InCortesewetrust[/bold] wrote: Come back!! save us again Cortese, yes markus money but Cortese was the architect! His vision his dream, he done nothing wrong the whole time, building a strong foundation and excellent team spirit 5 year's, it takes 5 month's for krugger and les to F it all up,,[/p][/quote]Bang on the money! A dream needlessly destroyed.[/p][/quote]Absolute nonsense . NC was running up massive debts without putting one cent of his own money in . He was paying himself a fortune with someone else's money and refused proper governance ie a board to hold him to account. That is like you giving me your business to run and me refusing to let you have a say while I run up huge debts. NC had a vision but it was a fantasy. Left to his own we would eventually have gone broke . Any one who bought into his fantasy world is a complete dreamer . Dreams are fine but must be realistic and sustainable if we are going to survive long term in the premiership . Look at Leeds they followed a fantasy. Get real .[/p][/quote]Well,we'll never know now,will we? All I know is that Cortese had us about 30 ft from the top of Everest, and with a little bit of luck,we could have summited this coming season.For some reason,the Sherpas decided we couldn't make that last push for the summit,and decided to come back down again.But,as any mountaineer will tell you,it can be just as dangerous,coming back down again.[/p][/quote]When will we acknowledge that it is virtually impossible to break into the top four in the absence of investing £100's of millions....Man City and Chelsea have done it, but only through massive spending from billionaire owners....we are lucky to have the owners we have...they got us out of trouble when we were desperate with few options on the table and have helped us to become established as a top 10 team. by investing millions step by step in a reasonable and pragmatic way...pretty good work i.m.o...so let's stop 'slagging' them off, acting like spoilt kids, and for goodness sake let's stop imagining Corstese was some kind of 'Saint' ..we should be congratulating and showing gratitude to the owners....otherwise they may just get fed up and decide to sell....(VIlla / Leeds / Portsmouth etc)[/p][/quote]I cant remember the last time I saw a club get as close to the top without ploughing loads of money in. Ipswich and Forest in the 80's? Times have changed since then - as players are now very greedy. You'll probably never get another chance of breaking in to the top 4. Maybe on reflexion you could have rewarded the layers with a pay rise - and started a stadium expansion in the close season. The sale of Shaw and Lambert alone would have paid for it. All the money received will mean nothing without continual improvement of the team. How easy will it be to get back to the PL if you have a really bad season Blue means Success
  • Score: 0

9:39am Mon 28 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

ctsaint wrote:
Jesus_02 wrote:
steekeemcglue wrote:
fcuk off Lovren,,,, bravo Saints... Easy to get CBs for half that money... anyone who criticises Saints over this is not a real fan. You may buy the cheap sh1t that passes for a kit ( thanks Nicola for that one ) but you are not a real fan... keep your gobs shut until this all pans out and respect the people that made Premiership football a reality in the first place.... that will be the owners.
Anyone that agree's with this t1t is not a real fan. He is obviously the sort if person that backs up his opinion with "FACT". What has Cortese got to do with the kit he was forced out before we decided to "make our own" (I actually think they are ok) . They are red and white FACT
Cortese messed up our deal with Adidas and they refused to help out when he left and we went back to them cap in hand.
There seems to be a lot of confusion about what happened with Adidas and the kits, I had the impression that the fault lay with Adidas in the first place when they fouled up on Corteses demands and he threw the contract out, with the new kit we I believe approached other kit makers who couldn't come up with the goods, so we trod our own path, we at least got what the fans wanted, but mucked things up with the sizes it seems, we seem to have rather more beer bellied fans than svelte sporty types, so they were aimed at the wrong audience. Good try but no cigar. Of course being in house meant no money for brand name advertising so they were always going to be more expensive.
[quote][p][bold]ctsaint[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]steekeemcglue[/bold] wrote: fcuk off Lovren,,,, bravo Saints... Easy to get CBs for half that money... anyone who criticises Saints over this is not a real fan. You may buy the cheap sh1t that passes for a kit ( thanks Nicola for that one ) but you are not a real fan... keep your gobs shut until this all pans out and respect the people that made Premiership football a reality in the first place.... that will be the owners.[/p][/quote]Anyone that agree's with this t1t is not a real fan. He is obviously the sort if person that backs up his opinion with "FACT". What has Cortese got to do with the kit he was forced out before we decided to "make our own" (I actually think they are ok) . They are red and white FACT[/p][/quote]Cortese messed up our deal with Adidas and they refused to help out when he left and we went back to them cap in hand.[/p][/quote]There seems to be a lot of confusion about what happened with Adidas and the kits, I had the impression that the fault lay with Adidas in the first place when they fouled up on Corteses demands and he threw the contract out, with the new kit we I believe approached other kit makers who couldn't come up with the goods, so we trod our own path, we at least got what the fans wanted, but mucked things up with the sizes it seems, we seem to have rather more beer bellied fans than svelte sporty types, so they were aimed at the wrong audience. Good try but no cigar. Of course being in house meant no money for brand name advertising so they were always going to be more expensive. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: -2

9:43am Mon 28 Jul 14

OSPREYSAINT says...

Blue means Success wrote:
Wembley76 wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
NiftyNorthy wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
InCortesewetrust wrote:
Come back!! save us again Cortese, yes markus money but Cortese was the architect! His vision his dream, he done nothing wrong the whole time, building a strong foundation and excellent team spirit 5 year's, it takes 5 month's for krugger and les to F it all up,,
Bang on the money! A dream needlessly destroyed.
Absolute nonsense . NC was running up massive debts without putting one cent of his own money in . He was paying himself a fortune with someone else's money and refused proper governance ie a board to hold him to account.
That is like you giving me your business to run and me refusing to let you have a say while I run up huge debts.
NC had a vision but it was a fantasy. Left to his own we would eventually have gone broke .
Any one who bought into his fantasy world is a complete dreamer . Dreams are fine but must be realistic and sustainable if we are going to survive long term in the premiership . Look at Leeds they followed a fantasy. Get real .
Well,we'll never know now,will we?
All I know is that Cortese had us about 30 ft from the top of Everest, and with a little bit of luck,we could have summited this coming season.For some reason,the Sherpas decided we couldn't make that last push for the summit,and decided to come back down again.But,as any mountaineer will tell you,it can be just as dangerous,coming back down again.
When will we acknowledge that it is virtually impossible to break into the top four in the absence of investing £100's of millions....Man City and Chelsea have done it, but only through massive spending from billionaire owners....we are lucky to have the owners we have...they got us out of trouble when we were desperate with few options on the table and have helped us to become established as a top 10 team. by investing millions step by step in a reasonable and pragmatic way...pretty good work i.m.o...so let's stop 'slagging' them off, acting like spoilt kids, and for goodness sake let's stop imagining Corstese was some kind of 'Saint' ..we should be congratulating and showing gratitude to the owners....otherwise they may just get fed up and decide to sell....(VIlla / Leeds / Portsmouth etc)
I cant remember the last time I saw a club get as close to the top without ploughing loads of money in. Ipswich and Forest in the 80's? Times have changed since then - as players are now very greedy.

You'll probably never get another chance of breaking in to the top 4. Maybe on reflexion you could have rewarded the layers with a pay rise - and started a stadium expansion in the close season. The sale of Shaw and Lambert alone would have paid for it. All the money received will mean nothing without continual improvement of the team. How easy will it be to get back to the PL if you have a really bad season
Making more sense than our own neggies, if we did it once, no reason why we couldn't do it again with the right players, they don't have to be mega buck earning prima donnas, just skilful and dedicated would do the trick, the mega bucks would then come to them later.
[quote][p][bold]Blue means Success[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wembley76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NiftyNorthy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InCortesewetrust[/bold] wrote: Come back!! save us again Cortese, yes markus money but Cortese was the architect! His vision his dream, he done nothing wrong the whole time, building a strong foundation and excellent team spirit 5 year's, it takes 5 month's for krugger and les to F it all up,,[/p][/quote]Bang on the money! A dream needlessly destroyed.[/p][/quote]Absolute nonsense . NC was running up massive debts without putting one cent of his own money in . He was paying himself a fortune with someone else's money and refused proper governance ie a board to hold him to account. That is like you giving me your business to run and me refusing to let you have a say while I run up huge debts. NC had a vision but it was a fantasy. Left to his own we would eventually have gone broke . Any one who bought into his fantasy world is a complete dreamer . Dreams are fine but must be realistic and sustainable if we are going to survive long term in the premiership . Look at Leeds they followed a fantasy. Get real .[/p][/quote]Well,we'll never know now,will we? All I know is that Cortese had us about 30 ft from the top of Everest, and with a little bit of luck,we could have summited this coming season.For some reason,the Sherpas decided we couldn't make that last push for the summit,and decided to come back down again.But,as any mountaineer will tell you,it can be just as dangerous,coming back down again.[/p][/quote]When will we acknowledge that it is virtually impossible to break into the top four in the absence of investing £100's of millions....Man City and Chelsea have done it, but only through massive spending from billionaire owners....we are lucky to have the owners we have...they got us out of trouble when we were desperate with few options on the table and have helped us to become established as a top 10 team. by investing millions step by step in a reasonable and pragmatic way...pretty good work i.m.o...so let's stop 'slagging' them off, acting like spoilt kids, and for goodness sake let's stop imagining Corstese was some kind of 'Saint' ..we should be congratulating and showing gratitude to the owners....otherwise they may just get fed up and decide to sell....(VIlla / Leeds / Portsmouth etc)[/p][/quote]I cant remember the last time I saw a club get as close to the top without ploughing loads of money in. Ipswich and Forest in the 80's? Times have changed since then - as players are now very greedy. You'll probably never get another chance of breaking in to the top 4. Maybe on reflexion you could have rewarded the layers with a pay rise - and started a stadium expansion in the close season. The sale of Shaw and Lambert alone would have paid for it. All the money received will mean nothing without continual improvement of the team. How easy will it be to get back to the PL if you have a really bad season[/p][/quote]Making more sense than our own neggies, if we did it once, no reason why we couldn't do it again with the right players, they don't have to be mega buck earning prima donnas, just skilful and dedicated would do the trick, the mega bucks would then come to them later. OSPREYSAINT
  • Score: 2

9:44am Mon 28 Jul 14

Andygrads7 says...

After being a saints fan and season ticket holder for over twenty years I have mixed emotions with the goings on at st Mary's. During the dell days I watched as saints struggled to stay up every year with a mixture of cheap foreigners and grafting English players with the additional youth product playing a few games before being sold. Finally last year we had a squad capable of really competing in the PL. But if these players are more interested in benchwarming champions league games away to shaky had Donetsk then more fool them. At a club like sfc players that play with heart and flair are adored by the great fans. I agree we need some more info in the board but we still have a resonable squad and good youngsters coming through. If we can create a good spirit under RK with a few signings who are keen to wear the saints shirt then we will have a good season. New signings look great and we are back in the stripes coyr and ws!
After being a saints fan and season ticket holder for over twenty years I have mixed emotions with the goings on at st Mary's. During the dell days I watched as saints struggled to stay up every year with a mixture of cheap foreigners and grafting English players with the additional youth product playing a few games before being sold. Finally last year we had a squad capable of really competing in the PL. But if these players are more interested in benchwarming champions league games away to shaky had Donetsk then more fool them. At a club like sfc players that play with heart and flair are adored by the great fans. I agree we need some more info in the board but we still have a resonable squad and good youngsters coming through. If we can create a good spirit under RK with a few signings who are keen to wear the saints shirt then we will have a good season. New signings look great and we are back in the stripes coyr and ws! Andygrads7
  • Score: 4

9:47am Mon 28 Jul 14

Jesus_02 says...

NiftyNorthy wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
InCortesewetrust wrote:
Come back!! save us again Cortese, yes markus money but Cortese was the architect! His vision his dream, he done nothing wrong the whole time, building a strong foundation and excellent team spirit 5 year's, it takes 5 month's for krugger and les to F it all up,,
Bang on the money! A dream needlessly destroyed.
Absolute nonsense . NC was running up massive debts without putting one cent of his own money in . He was paying himself a fortune with someone else's money and refused proper governance ie a board to hold him to account.
That is like you giving me your business to run and me refusing to let you have a say while I run up huge debts.
NC had a vision but it was a fantasy. Left to his own we would eventually have gone broke .
Any one who bought into his fantasy world is a complete dreamer . Dreams are fine but must be realistic and sustainable if we are going to survive long term in the premiership . Look at Leeds they followed a fantasy. Get real .
The premier leagues lowest wages, and our highest finish. Last season we spent 42m in wages and will received 80m in TV money alone. Where are the massive debts?

Yes he got paid a lot. But that "governance" that you talk about doesn’t come cheap either. How big is the board in comparison now? My money would be on the fact that we pay more now for non playing staff than we did under Cortese.

I hope that KL has a plan and I obviously wish her all the success in the world. However to paint Cortese as a pantomime villain after dragging the club from League 1 to 8th in the Premier League is pretty daft.
[quote][p][bold]NiftyNorthy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InCortesewetrust[/bold] wrote: Come back!! save us again Cortese, yes markus money but Cortese was the architect! His vision his dream, he done nothing wrong the whole time, building a strong foundation and excellent team spirit 5 year's, it takes 5 month's for krugger and les to F it all up,,[/p][/quote]Bang on the money! A dream needlessly destroyed.[/p][/quote]Absolute nonsense . NC was running up massive debts without putting one cent of his own money in . He was paying himself a fortune with someone else's money and refused proper governance ie a board to hold him to account. That is like you giving me your business to run and me refusing to let you have a say while I run up huge debts. NC had a vision but it was a fantasy. Left to his own we would eventually have gone broke . Any one who bought into his fantasy world is a complete dreamer . Dreams are fine but must be realistic and sustainable if we are going to survive long term in the premiership . Look at Leeds they followed a fantasy. Get real .[/p][/quote]The premier leagues lowest wages, and our highest finish. Last season we spent 42m in wages and will received 80m in TV money alone. Where are the massive debts? Yes he got paid a lot. But that "governance" that you talk about doesn’t come cheap either. How big is the board in comparison now? My money would be on the fact that we pay more now for non playing staff than we did under Cortese. I hope that KL has a plan and I obviously wish her all the success in the world. However to paint Cortese as a pantomime villain after dragging the club from League 1 to 8th in the Premier League is pretty daft. Jesus_02
  • Score: 2

10:07am Mon 28 Jul 14

jls217 says...

OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Blue means Success wrote:
Wembley76 wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
NiftyNorthy wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
InCortesewetrust wrote:
Come back!! save us again Cortese, yes markus money but Cortese was the architect! His vision his dream, he done nothing wrong the whole time, building a strong foundation and excellent team spirit 5 year's, it takes 5 month's for krugger and les to F it all up,,
Bang on the money! A dream needlessly destroyed.
Absolute nonsense . NC was running up massive debts without putting one cent of his own money in . He was paying himself a fortune with someone else's money and refused proper governance ie a board to hold him to account.
That is like you giving me your business to run and me refusing to let you have a say while I run up huge debts.
NC had a vision but it was a fantasy. Left to his own we would eventually have gone broke .
Any one who bought into his fantasy world is a complete dreamer . Dreams are fine but must be realistic and sustainable if we are going to survive long term in the premiership . Look at Leeds they followed a fantasy. Get real .
Well,we'll never know now,will we?
All I know is that Cortese had us about 30 ft from the top of Everest, and with a little bit of luck,we could have summited this coming season.For some reason,the Sherpas decided we couldn't make that last push for the summit,and decided to come back down again.But,as any mountaineer will tell you,it can be just as dangerous,coming back down again.
When will we acknowledge that it is virtually impossible to break into the top four in the absence of investing £100's of millions....Man City and Chelsea have done it, but only through massive spending from billionaire owners....we are lucky to have the owners we have...they got us out of trouble when we were desperate with few options on the table and have helped us to become established as a top 10 team. by investing millions step by step in a reasonable and pragmatic way...pretty good work i.m.o...so let's stop 'slagging' them off, acting like spoilt kids, and for goodness sake let's stop imagining Corstese was some kind of 'Saint' ..we should be congratulating and showing gratitude to the owners....otherwise they may just get fed up and decide to sell....(VIlla / Leeds / Portsmouth etc)
I cant remember the last time I saw a club get as close to the top without ploughing loads of money in. Ipswich and Forest in the 80's? Times have changed since then - as players are now very greedy.

You'll probably never get another chance of breaking in to the top 4. Maybe on reflexion you could have rewarded the layers with a pay rise - and started a stadium expansion in the close season. The sale of Shaw and Lambert alone would have paid for it. All the money received will mean nothing without continual improvement of the team. How easy will it be to get back to the PL if you have a really bad season
Making more sense than our own neggies, if we did it once, no reason why we couldn't do it again with the right players, they don't have to be mega buck earning prima donnas, just skilful and dedicated would do the trick, the mega bucks would then come to them later.
Interesting but we can never escape the simple fact that as things stand we could build the largest, most awe-inspiring, attractive, futuristic stadium the world has ever seen and we would still struggle to beat 32k bums on seats.
There are ways we could increase that number but current business practices will not be prepared to drop the price of a ticket to a tenner to get those bums into those seats. No doubt the money people have a reason why that would not be viable. Unfortunately those reasons escape my rather simple mind.
Cortese, in an almost megalomaniac way, sold us the dream we were ready to go to war with the giants in the industry - we were not. We had a chance of embarrassing a few of them for a short while but it would have only been temporary as our starlets would have been seduced - we go up to 50k in wages they would offer 75k - we could not and cannot compete. It took Mankeyschitti more money than we can dream about they made many very expensive mistakes and it still took years to claw themselves into the big time and now seem a permanent fixture there.
I loved Cortese at the time - he could do no wrong in my eyes. I see him rather differently now and in a less favourable light.
Fortunately Katharina by listening to the advice of others or maybe through her own nous concluded she wasn't going to have Cortese's machiavellian ways any longer and slapped him back into his box as an employee rather than some sort of Svengali like figure who was as likely to take us to the brink of disaster as he was to the brink of greatness, easy for him as is investment ran at about nil as did his level of risk - he was going to win either way.
We are still feeling the after shocks of that particular eruption - and the painful thing is none of us know for sure what and why and by whose hand all of this just unravelled in such a spectacular fashion. One or two players going might have been inevitable (all clubs will have a couple at the end of the season who will want to go for whatever reasons) But the non stop barrage of incoming from the media, the agents smelling the blood and the players smelling the money and of course, a manager walking out (sorry, severing his contract by mutual agreement or whatever blx they wished to dress it up as) and therefore not being able to steady the players etc etc etc it all became a recipe for a total mess and looking back I doubt there was any way of stopping it given the conditions it all happened under. Keep trying to fool myself it's water under the bridge but from time to time I fall foul of the gremlins too. The neggies don't help the situation but that is not their aim anyway. Calm and in good spirit is not in their MO.
Next season is going to be great.
[quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Blue means Success[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wembley76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NiftyNorthy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InCortesewetrust[/bold] wrote: Come back!! save us again Cortese, yes markus money but Cortese was the architect! His vision his dream, he done nothing wrong the whole time, building a strong foundation and excellent team spirit 5 year's, it takes 5 month's for krugger and les to F it all up,,[/p][/quote]Bang on the money! A dream needlessly destroyed.[/p][/quote]Absolute nonsense . NC was running up massive debts without putting one cent of his own money in . He was paying himself a fortune with someone else's money and refused proper governance ie a board to hold him to account. That is like you giving me your business to run and me refusing to let you have a say while I run up huge debts. NC had a vision but it was a fantasy. Left to his own we would eventually have gone broke . Any one who bought into his fantasy world is a complete dreamer . Dreams are fine but must be realistic and sustainable if we are going to survive long term in the premiership . Look at Leeds they followed a fantasy. Get real .[/p][/quote]Well,we'll never know now,will we? All I know is that Cortese had us about 30 ft from the top of Everest, and with a little bit of luck,we could have summited this coming season.For some reason,the Sherpas decided we couldn't make that last push for the summit,and decided to come back down again.But,as any mountaineer will tell you,it can be just as dangerous,coming back down again.[/p][/quote]When will we acknowledge that it is virtually impossible to break into the top four in the absence of investing £100's of millions....Man City and Chelsea have done it, but only through massive spending from billionaire owners....we are lucky to have the owners we have...they got us out of trouble when we were desperate with few options on the table and have helped us to become established as a top 10 team. by investing millions step by step in a reasonable and pragmatic way...pretty good work i.m.o...so let's stop 'slagging' them off, acting like spoilt kids, and for goodness sake let's stop imagining Corstese was some kind of 'Saint' ..we should be congratulating and showing gratitude to the owners....otherwise they may just get fed up and decide to sell....(VIlla / Leeds / Portsmouth etc)[/p][/quote]I cant remember the last time I saw a club get as close to the top without ploughing loads of money in. Ipswich and Forest in the 80's? Times have changed since then - as players are now very greedy. You'll probably never get another chance of breaking in to the top 4. Maybe on reflexion you could have rewarded the layers with a pay rise - and started a stadium expansion in the close season. The sale of Shaw and Lambert alone would have paid for it. All the money received will mean nothing without continual improvement of the team. How easy will it be to get back to the PL if you have a really bad season[/p][/quote]Making more sense than our own neggies, if we did it once, no reason why we couldn't do it again with the right players, they don't have to be mega buck earning prima donnas, just skilful and dedicated would do the trick, the mega bucks would then come to them later.[/p][/quote]Interesting but we can never escape the simple fact that as things stand we could build the largest, most awe-inspiring, attractive, futuristic stadium the world has ever seen and we would still struggle to beat 32k bums on seats. There are ways we could increase that number but current business practices will not be prepared to drop the price of a ticket to a tenner to get those bums into those seats. No doubt the money people have a reason why that would not be viable. Unfortunately those reasons escape my rather simple mind. Cortese, in an almost megalomaniac way, sold us the dream we were ready to go to war with the giants in the industry - we were not. We had a chance of embarrassing a few of them for a short while but it would have only been temporary as our starlets would have been seduced - we go up to 50k in wages they would offer 75k - we could not and cannot compete. It took Mankeyschitti more money than we can dream about they made many very expensive mistakes and it still took years to claw themselves into the big time and now seem a permanent fixture there. I loved Cortese at the time - he could do no wrong in my eyes. I see him rather differently now and in a less favourable light. Fortunately Katharina by listening to the advice of others or maybe through her own nous concluded she wasn't going to have Cortese's machiavellian ways any longer and slapped him back into his box as an employee rather than some sort of Svengali like figure who was as likely to take us to the brink of disaster as he was to the brink of greatness, easy for him as is investment ran at about nil as did his level of risk - he was going to win either way. We are still feeling the after shocks of that particular eruption - and the painful thing is none of us know for sure what and why and by whose hand all of this just unravelled in such a spectacular fashion. One or two players going might have been inevitable (all clubs will have a couple at the end of the season who will want to go for whatever reasons) But the non stop barrage of incoming from the media, the agents smelling the blood and the players smelling the money and of course, a manager walking out (sorry, severing his contract by mutual agreement or whatever blx they wished to dress it up as) and therefore not being able to steady the players etc etc etc it all became a recipe for a total mess and looking back I doubt there was any way of stopping it given the conditions it all happened under. Keep trying to fool myself it's water under the bridge but from time to time I fall foul of the gremlins too. The neggies don't help the situation but that is not their aim anyway. Calm and in good spirit is not in their MO. Next season is going to be great. jls217
  • Score: 2

10:07am Mon 28 Jul 14

costa gaz says...

Happy clappers 3 - 5 Merchants of doom.

After looking like a comeback was on the cards, the HC's let another one in.
Still around 5 weeks until the window closes, so there is still hope.

Trying to work out who will get the goal when Osvaldo goes.
Happy clappers 3 - 5 Merchants of doom. After looking like a comeback was on the cards, the HC's let another one in. Still around 5 weeks until the window closes, so there is still hope. Trying to work out who will get the goal when Osvaldo goes. costa gaz
  • Score: 1

10:15am Mon 28 Jul 14

jls217 says...

Andygrads7 wrote:
After being a saints fan and season ticket holder for over twenty years I have mixed emotions with the goings on at st Mary's. During the dell days I watched as saints struggled to stay up every year with a mixture of cheap foreigners and grafting English players with the additional youth product playing a few games before being sold. Finally last year we had a squad capable of really competing in the PL. But if these players are more interested in benchwarming champions league games away to shaky had Donetsk then more fool them. At a club like sfc players that play with heart and flair are adored by the great fans. I agree we need some more info in the board but we still have a resonable squad and good youngsters coming through. If we can create a good spirit under RK with a few signings who are keen to wear the saints shirt then we will have a good season. New signings look great and we are back in the stripes coyr and ws!
Thanks Andy needed your post this AM. Just having a little attack of the Gremlins and you have put me back on track. You're right of course - you have to be right or we're going to need to call in the **** Creek Paddle Company.
Can't wait to see who comes in this week.
[quote][p][bold]Andygrads7[/bold] wrote: After being a saints fan and season ticket holder for over twenty years I have mixed emotions with the goings on at st Mary's. During the dell days I watched as saints struggled to stay up every year with a mixture of cheap foreigners and grafting English players with the additional youth product playing a few games before being sold. Finally last year we had a squad capable of really competing in the PL. But if these players are more interested in benchwarming champions league games away to shaky had Donetsk then more fool them. At a club like sfc players that play with heart and flair are adored by the great fans. I agree we need some more info in the board but we still have a resonable squad and good youngsters coming through. If we can create a good spirit under RK with a few signings who are keen to wear the saints shirt then we will have a good season. New signings look great and we are back in the stripes coyr and ws![/p][/quote]Thanks Andy needed your post this AM. Just having a little attack of the Gremlins and you have put me back on track. You're right of course - you have to be right or we're going to need to call in the **** Creek Paddle Company. Can't wait to see who comes in this week. jls217
  • Score: 0

10:18am Mon 28 Jul 14

Rising_Son says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
Wembley76 wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
NiftyNorthy wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
InCortesewetrust wrote:
Come back!! save us again Cortese, yes markus money but Cortese was the architect! His vision his dream, he done nothing wrong the whole time, building a strong foundation and excellent team spirit 5 year's, it takes 5 month's for krugger and les to F it all up,,
Bang on the money! A dream needlessly destroyed.
Absolute nonsense . NC was running up massive debts without putting one cent of his own money in . He was paying himself a fortune with someone else's money and refused proper governance ie a board to hold him to account.
That is like you giving me your business to run and me refusing to let you have a say while I run up huge debts.
NC had a vision but it was a fantasy. Left to his own we would eventually have gone broke .
Any one who bought into his fantasy world is a complete dreamer . Dreams are fine but must be realistic and sustainable if we are going to survive long term in the premiership . Look at Leeds they followed a fantasy. Get real .
Well,we'll never know now,will we?
All I know is that Cortese had us about 30 ft from the top of Everest, and with a little bit of luck,we could have summited this coming season.For some reason,the Sherpas decided we couldn't make that last push for the summit,and decided to come back down again.But,as any mountaineer will tell you,it can be just as dangerous,coming back down again.
When will we acknowledge that it is virtually impossible to break into the top four in the absence of investing £100's of millions....Man City and Chelsea have done it, but only through massive spending from billionaire owners....we are lucky to have the owners we have...they got us out of trouble when we were desperate with few options on the table and have helped us to become established as a top 10 team. by investing millions step by step in a reasonable and pragmatic way...pretty good work i.m.o...so let's stop 'slagging' them off, acting like spoilt kids, and for goodness sake let's stop imagining Corstese was some kind of 'Saint' ..we should be congratulating and showing gratitude to the owners....otherwise they may just get fed up and decide to sell....(VIlla / Leeds / Portsmouth etc)
Yes,but we all know in our case,all we had to do was keep the team together, and buy three more decent players.If it didn't work out after that,fair enough,but someone didn't want it,did they?
It was a matter of keeping the team together and signing three or more, but how much would it have cost us to do that? Looking at the speculation about the wages Lallana, Shaw, etc. are getting, it wouldn't have come cheap. Of course, if we had finished next season in the top four and qualified for the CL, it would have been paid back handsomely. If we didn't get in the top four, we would probably be either facing an exodus, like we are now, or, worse still, a bunch of players on wages we couldn't afford who 'honour' their contracts right until the last day. That was the gamble.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wembley76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NiftyNorthy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InCortesewetrust[/bold] wrote: Come back!! save us again Cortese, yes markus money but Cortese was the architect! His vision his dream, he done nothing wrong the whole time, building a strong foundation and excellent team spirit 5 year's, it takes 5 month's for krugger and les to F it all up,,[/p][/quote]Bang on the money! A dream needlessly destroyed.[/p][/quote]Absolute nonsense . NC was running up massive debts without putting one cent of his own money in . He was paying himself a fortune with someone else's money and refused proper governance ie a board to hold him to account. That is like you giving me your business to run and me refusing to let you have a say while I run up huge debts. NC had a vision but it was a fantasy. Left to his own we would eventually have gone broke . Any one who bought into his fantasy world is a complete dreamer . Dreams are fine but must be realistic and sustainable if we are going to survive long term in the premiership . Look at Leeds they followed a fantasy. Get real .[/p][/quote]Well,we'll never know now,will we? All I know is that Cortese had us about 30 ft from the top of Everest, and with a little bit of luck,we could have summited this coming season.For some reason,the Sherpas decided we couldn't make that last push for the summit,and decided to come back down again.But,as any mountaineer will tell you,it can be just as dangerous,coming back down again.[/p][/quote]When will we acknowledge that it is virtually impossible to break into the top four in the absence of investing £100's of millions....Man City and Chelsea have done it, but only through massive spending from billionaire owners....we are lucky to have the owners we have...they got us out of trouble when we were desperate with few options on the table and have helped us to become established as a top 10 team. by investing millions step by step in a reasonable and pragmatic way...pretty good work i.m.o...so let's stop 'slagging' them off, acting like spoilt kids, and for goodness sake let's stop imagining Corstese was some kind of 'Saint' ..we should be congratulating and showing gratitude to the owners....otherwise they may just get fed up and decide to sell....(VIlla / Leeds / Portsmouth etc)[/p][/quote]Yes,but we all know in our case,all we had to do was keep the team together, and buy three more decent players.If it didn't work out after that,fair enough,but someone didn't want it,did they?[/p][/quote]It was a matter of keeping the team together and signing three or more, but how much would it have cost us to do that? Looking at the speculation about the wages Lallana, Shaw, etc. are getting, it wouldn't have come cheap. Of course, if we had finished next season in the top four and qualified for the CL, it would have been paid back handsomely. If we didn't get in the top four, we would probably be either facing an exodus, like we are now, or, worse still, a bunch of players on wages we couldn't afford who 'honour' their contracts right until the last day. That was the gamble. Rising_Son
  • Score: 4

10:22am Mon 28 Jul 14

jls217 says...

Spanish Santo wrote:
Jon haswollop wrote:
I would love our board to answer these questions!

A: Is our youth policy designed to give southampton fc a chance of success by DEVELOPING good players to be able to compete at the highest standard, due to not being able to compete in the transfer market against bigger clubs,

Or......

B: Is it designed to keep us financially afloat?


If the answer to this question is B, then premiership football needs to be declassified from the term SPORT.

If saints fans are left with no hope or dreams of ever being able to win the premiership because of the structure of English football. Then fans will start to disappear from the game in general. You will have a few diehard fans that will be happy to watch southampton never being ALLOWED to aspire to anything. However, the majority of people will move on from the sport as they are not mugs. People wouldn't pay a fortune to watch a champion boxer fight an opponent with 500/1 odds of winning. Eventually the same will be for football.

The FA/FIFA/UEAF need to stop being greedy and turn this beautiful game into a sport again. If youth players were legally forced to see out their contracts until the age of 25. Without any clubs being allowed to approach or purchase them unless they have been put on the transfer market by their respective club. Then at least clubs like southampton would be able to enjoy the fruits of their labour for a few years (Callum chambers, theo Walcott, Luke shaw, k.dyer, Gareth bale, w.bridge etc,etc,etc) England's football team would benefit from it also.
Unfortunately Jon...the beautiful game has turned into a money making monster. You are right, there are a few legislation changes that would benefit the national team, but unfortunately we the fans have created this monster. The same question needs to be asked abouth the number one sport in the world still not allowing refs the ability to overturn a poor decision via a replay. Every sport in the world uses this technology apart from football. You need to ask yourself why. FIFA are obviously corrupt but the FA should not and do not need to adhere to the crazy ramblings of Blat the t#@t. The reason I was so happy that saints had done so well over the past 5 seasons was (to quote Frank) they did it their own way. The Southampton way. This has proved such a revelation that now there are clubs up and down the country re-evaluating the importance of a good youth system...maybe the Southampton way will be responsable for changing a generations view of the importance of looking to produce homegrown talent above buying in foreign mercenaries. I for one am proud to call myself a saints fan, and indeed very proud of what we have achieved in a relatively short period. Lets see what the next five years bring. One thing for Shaw is that is never dull on the South coast.( Pun intended!).
I guess it has to be seen as a bit of both Jon. It's been working quite well for a while now but it all takes a different hue when we seemed to come so close to giving the big boys indigestion and all they did was respond by coming back and gobbling up our brightest and best. It might happen again next season too. FA, UEFA and FIFA probably could come up with a better solution than fair play if they put their minds to it but there seems to be a constant power struggle and personality clashes which seem to stop them wanting to work together for the good of all. The big boys don't want a Southampton coming along and perhaps upsetting their little gravy train and it's not difficult to rig it so it gets ever more difficult for that to happen.
[quote][p][bold]Spanish Santo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jon haswollop[/bold] wrote: I would love our board to answer these questions! A: Is our youth policy designed to give southampton fc a chance of success by DEVELOPING good players to be able to compete at the highest standard, due to not being able to compete in the transfer market against bigger clubs, Or...... B: Is it designed to keep us financially afloat? If the answer to this question is B, then premiership football needs to be declassified from the term SPORT. If saints fans are left with no hope or dreams of ever being able to win the premiership because of the structure of English football. Then fans will start to disappear from the game in general. You will have a few diehard fans that will be happy to watch southampton never being ALLOWED to aspire to anything. However, the majority of people will move on from the sport as they are not mugs. People wouldn't pay a fortune to watch a champion boxer fight an opponent with 500/1 odds of winning. Eventually the same will be for football. The FA/FIFA/UEAF need to stop being greedy and turn this beautiful game into a sport again. If youth players were legally forced to see out their contracts until the age of 25. Without any clubs being allowed to approach or purchase them unless they have been put on the transfer market by their respective club. Then at least clubs like southampton would be able to enjoy the fruits of their labour for a few years (Callum chambers, theo Walcott, Luke shaw, k.dyer, Gareth bale, w.bridge etc,etc,etc) England's football team would benefit from it also.[/p][/quote]Unfortunately Jon...the beautiful game has turned into a money making monster. You are right, there are a few legislation changes that would benefit the national team, but unfortunately we the fans have created this monster. The same question needs to be asked abouth the number one sport in the world still not allowing refs the ability to overturn a poor decision via a replay. Every sport in the world uses this technology apart from football. You need to ask yourself why. FIFA are obviously corrupt but the FA should not and do not need to adhere to the crazy ramblings of Blat the t#@t. The reason I was so happy that saints had done so well over the past 5 seasons was (to quote Frank) they did it their own way. The Southampton way. This has proved such a revelation that now there are clubs up and down the country re-evaluating the importance of a good youth system...maybe the Southampton way will be responsable for changing a generations view of the importance of looking to produce homegrown talent above buying in foreign mercenaries. I for one am proud to call myself a saints fan, and indeed very proud of what we have achieved in a relatively short period. Lets see what the next five years bring. One thing for Shaw is that is never dull on the South coast.( Pun intended!).[/p][/quote]I guess it has to be seen as a bit of both Jon. It's been working quite well for a while now but it all takes a different hue when we seemed to come so close to giving the big boys indigestion and all they did was respond by coming back and gobbling up our brightest and best. It might happen again next season too. FA, UEFA and FIFA probably could come up with a better solution than fair play if they put their minds to it but there seems to be a constant power struggle and personality clashes which seem to stop them wanting to work together for the good of all. The big boys don't want a Southampton coming along and perhaps upsetting their little gravy train and it's not difficult to rig it so it gets ever more difficult for that to happen. jls217
  • Score: 0

10:24am Mon 28 Jul 14

costa gaz says...

Once again the player is vilified for moving and the board gets praised for some astute business deal.

Are all these players bad people, or could it be that our boards lack of ambition has something to do with it. No attempt to improve any of departed players contracts tell me they are not prepared to invest.

To get a return one must invest, but all this board did was dig their heals in for more money making the players look very bad in the process.
The players are not bad people they are showing ambition buy moving away from a stagnating club.

I do understand that we cannot compete with the big clubs and players will leave... but so many in such a short space of time tells me the club has a problem.
Once again the player is vilified for moving and the board gets praised for some astute business deal. Are all these players bad people, or could it be that our boards lack of ambition has something to do with it. No attempt to improve any of departed players contracts tell me they are not prepared to invest. To get a return one must invest, but all this board did was dig their heals in for more money making the players look very bad in the process. The players are not bad people they are showing ambition buy moving away from a stagnating club. I do understand that we cannot compete with the big clubs and players will leave... but so many in such a short space of time tells me the club has a problem. costa gaz
  • Score: -4

10:38am Mon 28 Jul 14

Enrico Palazzo says...

nomorerumours wrote:
Norwegian Saint wrote:
This season we regroup and 2015/16 we push on.
If (and it's a big IF) we are in trouble at Christmas we open the bank and spend, this season is just to settle things again. The last five years have been better and better... now let's just consolidate our premier league status and look forward!
100% agree. Nice to see another genuine optimist.
Totally right. We have to accept that this will be a period of consolidation after which we will push on, more importantly with all of our debts paid off, become a viable Premiership club for years to come.
[quote][p][bold]nomorerumours[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Norwegian Saint[/bold] wrote: This season we regroup and 2015/16 we push on. If (and it's a big IF) we are in trouble at Christmas we open the bank and spend, this season is just to settle things again. The last five years have been better and better... now let's just consolidate our premier league status and look forward![/p][/quote]100% agree. Nice to see another genuine optimist.[/p][/quote]Totally right. We have to accept that this will be a period of consolidation after which we will push on, more importantly with all of our debts paid off, become a viable Premiership club for years to come. Enrico Palazzo
  • Score: 0

10:42am Mon 28 Jul 14

Enrico Palazzo says...

costa gaz wrote:
Once again the player is vilified for moving and the board gets praised for some astute business deal.

Are all these players bad people, or could it be that our boards lack of ambition has something to do with it. No attempt to improve any of departed players contracts tell me they are not prepared to invest.

To get a return one must invest, but all this board did was dig their heals in for more money making the players look very bad in the process.
The players are not bad people they are showing ambition buy moving away from a stagnating club.

I do understand that we cannot compete with the big clubs and players will leave... but so many in such a short space of time tells me the club has a problem.
While I get where you're coming from I think it is totally impossible these days to keep a player whose head has been turned. He would never have shown the same commitment to us again - what matters now is that we do invest again and move forward. I think it's right Lovren is vilified by the Saints fans - no improved contract offer from the Saints would have changed his mind - he was off before the season ended! he simply sees Liverpool as a bigger club! Good riddance.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Once again the player is vilified for moving and the board gets praised for some astute business deal. Are all these players bad people, or could it be that our boards lack of ambition has something to do with it. No attempt to improve any of departed players contracts tell me they are not prepared to invest. To get a return one must invest, but all this board did was dig their heals in for more money making the players look very bad in the process. The players are not bad people they are showing ambition buy moving away from a stagnating club. I do understand that we cannot compete with the big clubs and players will leave... but so many in such a short space of time tells me the club has a problem.[/p][/quote]While I get where you're coming from I think it is totally impossible these days to keep a player whose head has been turned. He would never have shown the same commitment to us again - what matters now is that we do invest again and move forward. I think it's right Lovren is vilified by the Saints fans - no improved contract offer from the Saints would have changed his mind - he was off before the season ended! he simply sees Liverpool as a bigger club! Good riddance. Enrico Palazzo
  • Score: 1

10:49am Mon 28 Jul 14

Blue means Success says...

jls217 wrote:
OSPREYSAINT wrote:
Blue means Success wrote:
Wembley76 wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
NiftyNorthy wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
InCortesewetrust wrote:
Come back!! save us again Cortese, yes markus money but Cortese was the architect! His vision his dream, he done nothing wrong the whole time, building a strong foundation and excellent team spirit 5 year's, it takes 5 month's for krugger and les to F it all up,,
Bang on the money! A dream needlessly destroyed.
Absolute nonsense . NC was running up massive debts without putting one cent of his own money in . He was paying himself a fortune with someone else's money and refused proper governance ie a board to hold him to account.
That is like you giving me your business to run and me refusing to let you have a say while I run up huge debts.
NC had a vision but it was a fantasy. Left to his own we would eventually have gone broke .
Any one who bought into his fantasy world is a complete dreamer . Dreams are fine but must be realistic and sustainable if we are going to survive long term in the premiership . Look at Leeds they followed a fantasy. Get real .
Well,we'll never know now,will we?
All I know is that Cortese had us about 30 ft from the top of Everest, and with a little bit of luck,we could have summited this coming season.For some reason,the Sherpas decided we couldn't make that last push for the summit,and decided to come back down again.But,as any mountaineer will tell you,it can be just as dangerous,coming back down again.
When will we acknowledge that it is virtually impossible to break into the top four in the absence of investing £100's of millions....Man City and Chelsea have done it, but only through massive spending from billionaire owners....we are lucky to have the owners we have...they got us out of trouble when we were desperate with few options on the table and have helped us to become established as a top 10 team. by investing millions step by step in a reasonable and pragmatic way...pretty good work i.m.o...so let's stop 'slagging' them off, acting like spoilt kids, and for goodness sake let's stop imagining Corstese was some kind of 'Saint' ..we should be congratulating and showing gratitude to the owners....otherwise they may just get fed up and decide to sell....(VIlla / Leeds / Portsmouth etc)
I cant remember the last time I saw a club get as close to the top without ploughing loads of money in. Ipswich and Forest in the 80's? Times have changed since then - as players are now very greedy.

You'll probably never get another chance of breaking in to the top 4. Maybe on reflexion you could have rewarded the layers with a pay rise - and started a stadium expansion in the close season. The sale of Shaw and Lambert alone would have paid for it. All the money received will mean nothing without continual improvement of the team. How easy will it be to get back to the PL if you have a really bad season
Making more sense than our own neggies, if we did it once, no reason why we couldn't do it again with the right players, they don't have to be mega buck earning prima donnas, just skilful and dedicated would do the trick, the mega bucks would then come to them later.
Interesting but we can never escape the simple fact that as things stand we could build the largest, most awe-inspiring, attractive, futuristic stadium the world has ever seen and we would still struggle to beat 32k bums on seats.
There are ways we could increase that number but current business practices will not be prepared to drop the price of a ticket to a tenner to get those bums into those seats. No doubt the money people have a reason why that would not be viable. Unfortunately those reasons escape my rather simple mind.
Cortese, in an almost megalomaniac way, sold us the dream we were ready to go to war with the giants in the industry - we were not. We had a chance of embarrassing a few of them for a short while but it would have only been temporary as our starlets would have been seduced - we go up to 50k in wages they would offer 75k - we could not and cannot compete. It took Mankeyschitti more money than we can dream about they made many very expensive mistakes and it still took years to claw themselves into the big time and now seem a permanent fixture there.
I loved Cortese at the time - he could do no wrong in my eyes. I see him rather differently now and in a less favourable light.
Fortunately Katharina by listening to the advice of others or maybe through her own nous concluded she wasn't going to have Cortese's machiavellian ways any longer and slapped him back into his box as an employee rather than some sort of Svengali like figure who was as likely to take us to the brink of disaster as he was to the brink of greatness, easy for him as is investment ran at about nil as did his level of risk - he was going to win either way.
We are still feeling the after shocks of that particular eruption - and the painful thing is none of us know for sure what and why and by whose hand all of this just unravelled in such a spectacular fashion. One or two players going might have been inevitable (all clubs will have a couple at the end of the season who will want to go for whatever reasons) But the non stop barrage of incoming from the media, the agents smelling the blood and the players smelling the money and of course, a manager walking out (sorry, severing his contract by mutual agreement or whatever blx they wished to dress it up as) and therefore not being able to steady the players etc etc etc it all became a recipe for a total mess and looking back I doubt there was any way of stopping it given the conditions it all happened under. Keep trying to fool myself it's water under the bridge but from time to time I fall foul of the gremlins too. The neggies don't help the situation but that is not their aim anyway. Calm and in good spirit is not in their MO.
Next season is going to be great.
And yet you moved from a 15k stadium that wasn't always sold out to stadium just over twice the size and sold out your first few seasons. To move up to the next level involves planning and consideration of the next generation of fans.
[quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OSPREYSAINT[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Blue means Success[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wembley76[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NiftyNorthy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InCortesewetrust[/bold] wrote: Come back!! save us again Cortese, yes markus money but Cortese was the architect! His vision his dream, he done nothing wrong the whole time, building a strong foundation and excellent team spirit 5 year's, it takes 5 month's for krugger and les to F it all up,,[/p][/quote]Bang on the money! A dream needlessly destroyed.[/p][/quote]Absolute nonsense . NC was running up massive debts without putting one cent of his own money in . He was paying himself a fortune with someone else's money and refused proper governance ie a board to hold him to account. That is like you giving me your business to run and me refusing to let you have a say while I run up huge debts. NC had a vision but it was a fantasy. Left to his own we would eventually have gone broke . Any one who bought into his fantasy world is a complete dreamer . Dreams are fine but must be realistic and sustainable if we are going to survive long term in the premiership . Look at Leeds they followed a fantasy. Get real .[/p][/quote]Well,we'll never know now,will we? All I know is that Cortese had us about 30 ft from the top of Everest, and with a little bit of luck,we could have summited this coming season.For some reason,the Sherpas decided we couldn't make that last push for the summit,and decided to come back down again.But,as any mountaineer will tell you,it can be just as dangerous,coming back down again.[/p][/quote]When will we acknowledge that it is virtually impossible to break into the top four in the absence of investing £100's of millions....Man City and Chelsea have done it, but only through massive spending from billionaire owners....we are lucky to have the owners we have...they got us out of trouble when we were desperate with few options on the table and have helped us to become established as a top 10 team. by investing millions step by step in a reasonable and pragmatic way...pretty good work i.m.o...so let's stop 'slagging' them off, acting like spoilt kids, and for goodness sake let's stop imagining Corstese was some kind of 'Saint' ..we should be congratulating and showing gratitude to the owners....otherwise they may just get fed up and decide to sell....(VIlla / Leeds / Portsmouth etc)[/p][/quote]I cant remember the last time I saw a club get as close to the top without ploughing loads of money in. Ipswich and Forest in the 80's? Times have changed since then - as players are now very greedy. You'll probably never get another chance of breaking in to the top 4. Maybe on reflexion you could have rewarded the layers with a pay rise - and started a stadium expansion in the close season. The sale of Shaw and Lambert alone would have paid for it. All the money received will mean nothing without continual improvement of the team. How easy will it be to get back to the PL if you have a really bad season[/p][/quote]Making more sense than our own neggies, if we did it once, no reason why we couldn't do it again with the right players, they don't have to be mega buck earning prima donnas, just skilful and dedicated would do the trick, the mega bucks would then come to them later.[/p][/quote]Interesting but we can never escape the simple fact that as things stand we could build the largest, most awe-inspiring, attractive, futuristic stadium the world has ever seen and we would still struggle to beat 32k bums on seats. There are ways we could increase that number but current business practices will not be prepared to drop the price of a ticket to a tenner to get those bums into those seats. No doubt the money people have a reason why that would not be viable. Unfortunately those reasons escape my rather simple mind. Cortese, in an almost megalomaniac way, sold us the dream we were ready to go to war with the giants in the industry - we were not. We had a chance of embarrassing a few of them for a short while but it would have only been temporary as our starlets would have been seduced - we go up to 50k in wages they would offer 75k - we could not and cannot compete. It took Mankeyschitti more money than we can dream about they made many very expensive mistakes and it still took years to claw themselves into the big time and now seem a permanent fixture there. I loved Cortese at the time - he could do no wrong in my eyes. I see him rather differently now and in a less favourable light. Fortunately Katharina by listening to the advice of others or maybe through her own nous concluded she wasn't going to have Cortese's machiavellian ways any longer and slapped him back into his box as an employee rather than some sort of Svengali like figure who was as likely to take us to the brink of disaster as he was to the brink of greatness, easy for him as is investment ran at about nil as did his level of risk - he was going to win either way. We are still feeling the after shocks of that particular eruption - and the painful thing is none of us know for sure what and why and by whose hand all of this just unravelled in such a spectacular fashion. One or two players going might have been inevitable (all clubs will have a couple at the end of the season who will want to go for whatever reasons) But the non stop barrage of incoming from the media, the agents smelling the blood and the players smelling the money and of course, a manager walking out (sorry, severing his contract by mutual agreement or whatever blx they wished to dress it up as) and therefore not being able to steady the players etc etc etc it all became a recipe for a total mess and looking back I doubt there was any way of stopping it given the conditions it all happened under. Keep trying to fool myself it's water under the bridge but from time to time I fall foul of the gremlins too. The neggies don't help the situation but that is not their aim anyway. Calm and in good spirit is not in their MO. Next season is going to be great.[/p][/quote]And yet you moved from a 15k stadium that wasn't always sold out to stadium just over twice the size and sold out your first few seasons. To move up to the next level involves planning and consideration of the next generation of fans. Blue means Success
  • Score: 0

10:50am Mon 28 Jul 14

Confucious says...

Fact is we are much better off with £20 million in the bank than with this total @rse in the squad.
Fact is we are much better off with £20 million in the bank than with this total @rse in the squad. Confucious
  • Score: 0

11:02am Mon 28 Jul 14

jls217 says...

costa gaz wrote:
Once again the player is vilified for moving and the board gets praised for some astute business deal.

Are all these players bad people, or could it be that our boards lack of ambition has something to do with it. No attempt to improve any of departed players contracts tell me they are not prepared to invest.

To get a return one must invest, but all this board did was dig their heals in for more money making the players look very bad in the process.
The players are not bad people they are showing ambition buy moving away from a stagnating club.

I do understand that we cannot compete with the big clubs and players will leave... but so many in such a short space of time tells me the club has a problem.
I can't blame the players for wanting success, prestige and more money - it's what makes the world go around. I don't have to like it though.

The manner in which two of them in particular conducted their business will leave a long and negative memory in the minds of many Saints fans. We might not be any happier about losing the others but based on what little we know they seem to have, at least, gone about the process in a more dignified, less offensive (to the fans) way. Don't know for sure of course but I was led to believe a couple were offered improved contracts and a couple of them had only just signed new and improved contracts and said they were delighted to be doing so and I seem to remember one of them saying he would be happy to never leave Saints (can't remember the exact words as I was stupid enough to just hear good words and that was all that mattered - how wrong was I?)
It could be argued that Katharina had invested and she was now taking her returns.
If those controlling the negotiations had not dug their heels in for more money (which is their job) what would Saints fans be saying about them now?
You're clearly right that the club has a problem one which is hypothesised to death and we're still no closer to knowing the full truth about - just what happened around Xmas time and the other problem is that we had the temerity to go and run rings around the big money squads from time to time last season and our sleepy little, supposed to be forever stagnating club had their various searchlights shining on us. They liked what they saw and they plundered us. You rightly say we cannot compete and the players and their agents took the bait. Nothing new there.
Be fair costa whoever was involved in those negotiations have done some hardball negotiations over these deals and made the best of a bad position. If it's inevitable a player is going the only thing left is to make his going work for your club and the amount they squeezed is pretty impressive by any standards - doesn't mean we or the board have to like the attacks we seemed to come under from all sides but they've made the best out of a bad situation.
Maybe there is noone to blame here the world of football is what it has become ever since Jimmy Hill started this ball rolling all those years ago - I doubt he would've wanted what he would witness today any more than you or I but the world has turned upside down and the player and more importantly his agent are now absolutely in control. It may yet ruin this fantastic game and our club with it, if it hasn't already done so.
The measure of the board is what happens next. Rambo and his bro are not stupid men, if they didn't think there was a future to be crafted with what the academy and the income can provide they might as well just have stayed where they were. Several big names applied for their job and all of them saw something to be grown from the unfolding mess. From where I stand I might shake my head and struggle to see what from time to time but they took it on and I reckon they will turn it round by the time their second season comes round. Just hope I'm right.
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Once again the player is vilified for moving and the board gets praised for some astute business deal. Are all these players bad people, or could it be that our boards lack of ambition has something to do with it. No attempt to improve any of departed players contracts tell me they are not prepared to invest. To get a return one must invest, but all this board did was dig their heals in for more money making the players look very bad in the process. The players are not bad people they are showing ambition buy moving away from a stagnating club. I do understand that we cannot compete with the big clubs and players will leave... but so many in such a short space of time tells me the club has a problem.[/p][/quote]I can't blame the players for wanting success, prestige and more money - it's what makes the world go around. I don't have to like it though. The manner in which two of them in particular conducted their business will leave a long and negative memory in the minds of many Saints fans. We might not be any happier about losing the others but based on what little we know they seem to have, at least, gone about the process in a more dignified, less offensive (to the fans) way. Don't know for sure of course but I was led to believe a couple were offered improved contracts and a couple of them had only just signed new and improved contracts and said they were delighted to be doing so and I seem to remember one of them saying he would be happy to never leave Saints (can't remember the exact words as I was stupid enough to just hear good words and that was all that mattered - how wrong was I?) It could be argued that Katharina had invested and she was now taking her returns. If those controlling the negotiations had not dug their heels in for more money (which is their job) what would Saints fans be saying about them now? You're clearly right that the club has a problem one which is hypothesised to death and we're still no closer to knowing the full truth about - just what happened around Xmas time and the other problem is that we had the temerity to go and run rings around the big money squads from time to time last season and our sleepy little, supposed to be forever stagnating club had their various searchlights shining on us. They liked what they saw and they plundered us. You rightly say we cannot compete and the players and their agents took the bait. Nothing new there. Be fair costa whoever was involved in those negotiations have done some hardball negotiations over these deals and made the best of a bad position. If it's inevitable a player is going the only thing left is to make his going work for your club and the amount they squeezed is pretty impressive by any standards - doesn't mean we or the board have to like the attacks we seemed to come under from all sides but they've made the best out of a bad situation. Maybe there is noone to blame here the world of football is what it has become ever since Jimmy Hill started this ball rolling all those years ago - I doubt he would've wanted what he would witness today any more than you or I but the world has turned upside down and the player and more importantly his agent are now absolutely in control. It may yet ruin this fantastic game and our club with it, if it hasn't already done so. The measure of the board is what happens next. Rambo and his bro are not stupid men, if they didn't think there was a future to be crafted with what the academy and the income can provide they might as well just have stayed where they were. Several big names applied for their job and all of them saw something to be grown from the unfolding mess. From where I stand I might shake my head and struggle to see what from time to time but they took it on and I reckon they will turn it round by the time their second season comes round. Just hope I'm right. jls217
  • Score: 3

11:11am Mon 28 Jul 14

jls217 says...

Positively4thStreet wrote:
jls217 wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
Saintsincethe60s wrote:
Let's cut out the cancer within our club, that was started by Cortese and continued by the slimy argie and move on with players that want to be here.

If there are any more then raise your head above the parapet and p!ss off, we don't want or need anybody without the right attitude at our club , we can rebuild with the over inflated fees
It wasn't started by Cortese.He was made aware that this was going to happen,couldn't do anything about it,and got out.Once the players and manager realised the "plan" was at an end,they all got out too.
Interesting idea.
Just my opinion jls, I know you have mixed views of NC,but all the time he was there my confidence that big things were just over the horizon for us,just got greater and greater.
I still have a lot of confidence in our Ron though,and I don't think things are necessarily going to turn out as bad as some people are fearing.
Can't argue against that mate I bought the dream too and he seemed to exude efficiency and confidence (a copper mate of mine who I sometimes go to the pub and the games with shot me down with. "All good conmen do they have to or they're not good") His words not mine.

I think better times are ahead once the dust as settled on what has just happened to us too.
[quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jls217[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Saintsincethe60s[/bold] wrote: Let's cut out the cancer within our club, that was started by Cortese and continued by the slimy argie and move on with players that want to be here. If there are any more then raise your head above the parapet and p!ss off, we don't want or need anybody without the right attitude at our club , we can rebuild with the over inflated fees[/p][/quote]It wasn't started by Cortese.He was made aware that this was going to happen,couldn't do anything about it,and got out.Once the players and manager realised the "plan" was at an end,they all got out too.[/p][/quote]Interesting idea.[/p][/quote]Just my opinion jls, I know you have mixed views of NC,but all the time he was there my confidence that big things were just over the horizon for us,just got greater and greater. I still have a lot of confidence in our Ron though,and I don't think things are necessarily going to turn out as bad as some people are fearing.[/p][/quote]Can't argue against that mate I bought the dream too and he seemed to exude efficiency and confidence (a copper mate of mine who I sometimes go to the pub and the games with shot me down with. "All good conmen do they have to or they're not good") His words not mine. I think better times are ahead once the dust as settled on what has just happened to us too. jls217
  • Score: 0

11:25am Mon 28 Jul 14

BitterneP@rk says...

Not a £20m player. In fact, Lambert, Lallana and Shaw were all ridiculously overpriced. Lallana is the only one with a scrap of natural talent and flair, and you can find a midfielder like that for a couple of euro in any Spanish club. Drop down to the Championship and pick any number 9 to replace Lambert.

These are players that clearly thrived under Pochettino and while clearly talented under Adkins, were nowhere near the established stars they are now. Poch has gone, no guarantee the new manager will get 400% out of these players and their head has been turned by the one-season-wonders (seventh again next year). In fact, I'd love to know the odds on Saints finishing above Liverpool next season.

So we are talking what, £90m of transfers out for REPLACEABLE players work less than half that? And your new boss hasn't even got his dealings done. So far, it looks like he is going Dutch - talent that he knows, and also a league that generally transfers well to the Premier League. He's got rid of the mutineers quickly too, and once Schneiderlin works out what he wants to do it will be all positive from Saints, every player in through the new door bringing momentum. My only worry is them bringing in too many signings too soon like Liverpool (as Spurs struggled with last year) but not all the Saints signings will be high profile.

Superb business from the Saints this summer.
Not a £20m player. In fact, Lambert, Lallana and Shaw were all ridiculously overpriced. Lallana is the only one with a scrap of natural talent and flair, and you can find a midfielder like that for a couple of euro in any Spanish club. Drop down to the Championship and pick any number 9 to replace Lambert. These are players that clearly thrived under Pochettino and while clearly talented under Adkins, were nowhere near the established stars they are now. Poch has gone, no guarantee the new manager will get 400% out of these players and their head has been turned by the one-season-wonders (seventh again next year). In fact, I'd love to know the odds on Saints finishing above Liverpool next season. So we are talking what, £90m of transfers out for REPLACEABLE players work less than half that? And your new boss hasn't even got his dealings done. So far, it looks like he is going Dutch - talent that he knows, and also a league that generally transfers well to the Premier League. He's got rid of the mutineers quickly too, and once Schneiderlin works out what he wants to do it will be all positive from Saints, every player in through the new door bringing momentum. My only worry is them bringing in too many signings too soon like Liverpool (as Spurs struggled with last year) but not all the Saints signings will be high profile. Superb business from the Saints this summer. BitterneP@rk
  • Score: 1

1:09pm Mon 28 Jul 14

PTID1898 says...

What you lot fail to realise is that the money in the bank does not belong to your club it belongs to your owner, she is asset stripping to make money for the main business of the family she does not want your club because she realises that its a dead investment, she will convert the 32m of shares back to her and she will be gone up the m3 quicker than you can get a team out. Still it is so funny though.
What you lot fail to realise is that the money in the bank does not belong to your club it belongs to your owner, she is asset stripping to make money for the main business of the family she does not want your club because she realises that its a dead investment, she will convert the 32m of shares back to her and she will be gone up the m3 quicker than you can get a team out. Still it is so funny though. PTID1898
  • Score: 0

1:26pm Mon 28 Jul 14

Rising_Son says...

Jesus_02 wrote:
NiftyNorthy wrote:
Positively4thStreet wrote:
InCortesewetrust wrote:
Come back!! save us again Cortese, yes markus money but Cortese was the architect! His vision his dream, he done nothing wrong the whole time, building a strong foundation and excellent team spirit 5 year's, it takes 5 month's for krugger and les to F it all up,,
Bang on the money! A dream needlessly destroyed.
Absolute nonsense . NC was running up massive debts without putting one cent of his own money in . He was paying himself a fortune with someone else's money and refused proper governance ie a board to hold him to account.
That is like you giving me your business to run and me refusing to let you have a say while I run up huge debts.
NC had a vision but it was a fantasy. Left to his own we would eventually have gone broke .
Any one who bought into his fantasy world is a complete dreamer . Dreams are fine but must be realistic and sustainable if we are going to survive long term in the premiership . Look at Leeds they followed a fantasy. Get real .
The premier leagues lowest wages, and our highest finish. Last season we spent 42m in wages and will received 80m in TV money alone. Where are the massive debts?

Yes he got paid a lot. But that "governance" that you talk about doesn’t come cheap either. How big is the board in comparison now? My money would be on the fact that we pay more now for non playing staff than we did under Cortese.

I hope that KL has a plan and I obviously wish her all the success in the world. However to paint Cortese as a pantomime villain after dragging the club from League 1 to 8th in the Premier League is pretty daft.
And what would the wage bill be if we pay our players what others are rumoured to be paying them?
[quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]NiftyNorthy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Positively4thStreet[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]InCortesewetrust[/bold] wrote: Come back!! save us again Cortese, yes markus money but Cortese was the architect! His vision his dream, he done nothing wrong the whole time, building a strong foundation and excellent team spirit 5 year's, it takes 5 month's for krugger and les to F it all up,,[/p][/quote]Bang on the money! A dream needlessly destroyed.[/p][/quote]Absolute nonsense . NC was running up massive debts without putting one cent of his own money in . He was paying himself a fortune with someone else's money and refused proper governance ie a board to hold him to account. That is like you giving me your business to run and me refusing to let you have a say while I run up huge debts. NC had a vision but it was a fantasy. Left to his own we would eventually have gone broke . Any one who bought into his fantasy world is a complete dreamer . Dreams are fine but must be realistic and sustainable if we are going to survive long term in the premiership . Look at Leeds they followed a fantasy. Get real .[/p][/quote]The premier leagues lowest wages, and our highest finish. Last season we spent 42m in wages and will received 80m in TV money alone. Where are the massive debts? Yes he got paid a lot. But that "governance" that you talk about doesn’t come cheap either. How big is the board in comparison now? My money would be on the fact that we pay more now for non playing staff than we did under Cortese. I hope that KL has a plan and I obviously wish her all the success in the world. However to paint Cortese as a pantomime villain after dragging the club from League 1 to 8th in the Premier League is pretty daft.[/p][/quote]And what would the wage bill be if we pay our players what others are rumoured to be paying them? Rising_Son
  • Score: 2

1:29pm Mon 28 Jul 14

Alicesdad says...

You know what? Bitternep@rk makes a good point. It may prove to be the best most profitable business we ever do. It's a seldom stated opinion but the more you think about it he could be right.

The problem could be that so many players have left at once though, they are all replaceable, everyone is... but can we get that team spirit and playing style back within a reasonable time. Ron could be just the man to make it happen.

Aaaaah thats better, the Happy Clappiness is oozing back into my bloodstream... all I needed was a quick fix ...
You know what? Bitternep@rk makes a good point. It may prove to be the best most profitable business we ever do. It's a seldom stated opinion but the more you think about it he could be right. The problem could be that so many players have left at once though, they are all replaceable, everyone is... but can we get that team spirit and playing style back within a reasonable time. Ron could be just the man to make it happen. Aaaaah thats better, the Happy Clappiness is oozing back into my bloodstream... all I needed was a quick fix ... Alicesdad
  • Score: 2

1:33pm Mon 28 Jul 14

sledgerite says...

lets see how good lovren is without shaw to his left and two shielding midfielders like morgan and victor in front of him.Think he will notice the difference with henderson and crock gerrard in front of him both abject failures for england and no suirez goals to bail them
lets see how good lovren is without shaw to his left and two shielding midfielders like morgan and victor in front of him.Think he will notice the difference with henderson and crock gerrard in front of him both abject failures for england and no suirez goals to bail them sledgerite
  • Score: 3

1:43pm Mon 28 Jul 14

BigBugBuzzz says...

Fellow fans,

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Fellow fans, In the interest of discovering our general sentiment, would you please take the following one-question poll that I have created: http://vote.pollcode .com/49543424#sthash .OhmGuQ7b.dpuf Thank you. BigBugBuzzz
  • Score: -1

1:46pm Mon 28 Jul 14

s1nner says...

Bumper....in Ronald you trust?
Ronald's cv
Ajax................
...........sacked

Valencia............
........Sacked

AZ..................
............sacked

Feyenoord...........
....Abandoned

Southampton.........
.pending.
Bumper....in Ronald you trust? Ronald's cv Ajax................ ...........sacked Valencia............ ........Sacked AZ.................. ............sacked Feyenoord........... ....Abandoned Southampton......... .pending. s1nner
  • Score: 1

2:40pm Mon 28 Jul 14

de Heiligen paard 101 says...

costa gaz wrote:
Once again the player is vilified for moving and the board gets praised for some astute business deal.

Are all these players bad people, or could it be that our boards lack of ambition has something to do with it. No attempt to improve any of departed players contracts tell me they are not prepared to invest.

To get a return one must invest, but all this board did was dig their heals in for more money making the players look very bad in the process.
The players are not bad people they are showing ambition buy moving away from a stagnating club.

I do understand that we cannot compete with the big clubs and players will leave... but so many in such a short space of time tells me the club has a problem.
yet again gaz all you do is sneer and snipe at saints who want the club to succeed!
I have yet to hear you say what you would have done in the same position!
new contracts were offered to lielanna and luke last summer, dejerk signed his deal last year. should the club have to offer new contracts every year? how long will that last? new contracts have been offered to some players. perhaps the board knew these players were going to go no matter what! the players haven't gone because the club lacks ambition, if that was all that mattered why have they all insisted on huge pay rises at their new clubs? if dejerk wanted to hear that song every week and play in the champs league, and that was all that was important to him, why didn't he want to go to celtic instead? they have more home games than liverhampton so he could have heard it a lot more. simple answer WAGES!
dejerk moaned that the club was selling its best players, haven't liverhampton just done the same with their one world class player?
luke signed a 5yr deal last summer and was told by NC, the holly one, that he could go next summer, was lelanna offered the same deal? is that why the toys went flying? dejerk moans about player sales but was he not told that luke/lielanna had deals to go this year? why did he have an agreement with NC the magnificent saying he could go for a £20mill offer?
you criticise the board but they have only been in place for a few months and have had to deal with the contracts and deals that NC the wonderful did. les reed was here under NC but its clear he wasn't involved in the deals NC the great and powerful did. would the players have left if NC the wise and knowing was still here? some think he had magical powers to help keep the players, but he told luke he could go, he probably did the same with lielanna, he told dejerk he could go for £20mill, he tried to sell rickie to hoof! so its probable these players would still have gone, and they couldn't have blamed ambition then. it would have been the same reason as now MONEY!
anyone who thinks we could offer the same wages to the players as they are getting now is very sadly mistaken! we cant compete with the big clubs, that may change with shrewd long term investment and planning, but it was never going to happen in a year or two.
do you think the board were wrong to dig their heals in and try to get as much as they could for the players? should they have just sold them for the first offer, like the one we got for lielanna? remember? it was around £12-£15mill mostly made up of add ons. should we have taken that just to make lielanna look better? we were offered less than £20mill for luke, should we have taken that?
players are being slated because of their actions, and passionate fans feel the pain of them going and the way they did it! if your happy with lielanna for telling the club he would never play again and for saying he was dreaming of playing for another club for most of last season while he was supposed to be the captain of our club. are you happy with dejerk for the way he spoke about the club and saying his head was in liverhampton for the vast majority of last season.
we might have had a far better season if these players actually wanted to be here! luke didn't care too much as he knew he was off, lielanna was in dreamland and dejerks head stayed at liverhampton most of the year. these players felt like this long before NC the all seeing left so how, please tell me HOW is it the fault of the current board? I know you wont as it doesn't fit in with your neggie views but that's the truth and the reality of our situation!
[quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Once again the player is vilified for moving and the board gets praised for some astute business deal. Are all these players bad people, or could it be that our boards lack of ambition has something to do with it. No attempt to improve any of departed players contracts tell me they are not prepared to invest. To get a return one must invest, but all this board did was dig their heals in for more money making the players look very bad in the process. The players are not bad people they are showing ambition buy moving away from a stagnating club. I do understand that we cannot compete with the big clubs and players will leave... but so many in such a short space of time tells me the club has a problem.[/p][/quote]yet again gaz all you do is sneer and snipe at saints who want the club to succeed! I have yet to hear you say what you would have done in the same position! new contracts were offered to lielanna and luke last summer, dejerk signed his deal last year. should the club have to offer new contracts every year? how long will that last? new contracts have been offered to some players. perhaps the board knew these players were going to go no matter what! the players haven't gone because the club lacks ambition, if that was all that mattered why have they all insisted on huge pay rises at their new clubs? if dejerk wanted to hear that song every week and play in the champs league, and that was all that was important to him, why didn't he want to go to celtic instead? they have more home games than liverhampton so he could have heard it a lot more. simple answer WAGES! dejerk moaned that the club was selling its best players, haven't liverhampton just done the same with their one world class player? luke signed a 5yr deal last summer and was told by NC, the holly one, that he could go next summer, was lelanna offered the same deal? is that why the toys went flying? dejerk moans about player sales but was he not told that luke/lielanna had deals to go this year? why did he have an agreement with NC the magnificent saying he could go for a £20mill offer? you criticise the board but they have only been in place for a few months and have had to deal with the contracts and deals that NC the wonderful did. les reed was here under NC but its clear he wasn't involved in the deals NC the great and powerful did. would the players have left if NC the wise and knowing was still here? some think he had magical powers to help keep the players, but he told luke he could go, he probably did the same with lielanna, he told dejerk he could go for £20mill, he tried to sell rickie to hoof! so its probable these players would still have gone, and they couldn't have blamed ambition then. it would have been the same reason as now MONEY! anyone who thinks we could offer the same wages to the players as they are getting now is very sadly mistaken! we cant compete with the big clubs, that may change with shrewd long term investment and planning, but it was never going to happen in a year or two. do you think the board were wrong to dig their heals in and try to get as much as they could for the players? should they have just sold them for the first offer, like the one we got for lielanna? remember? it was around £12-£15mill mostly made up of add ons. should we have taken that just to make lielanna look better? we were offered less than £20mill for luke, should we have taken that? players are being slated because of their actions, and passionate fans feel the pain of them going and the way they did it! if your happy with lielanna for telling the club he would never play again and for saying he was dreaming of playing for another club for most of last season while he was supposed to be the captain of our club. are you happy with dejerk for the way he spoke about the club and saying his head was in liverhampton for the vast majority of last season. we might have had a far better season if these players actually wanted to be here! luke didn't care too much as he knew he was off, lielanna was in dreamland and dejerks head stayed at liverhampton most of the year. these players felt like this long before NC the all seeing left so how, please tell me HOW is it the fault of the current board? I know you wont as it doesn't fit in with your neggie views but that's the truth and the reality of our situation! de Heiligen paard 101
  • Score: 2

3:33pm Mon 28 Jul 14

windygale says...

exiledinyork wrote:
I rarely post, but often look at DE comments. Can we all just take deep breath? Lambert, absolute star who no one can begrudge a dream move to home town team. Adam "You've changed" Lallana being sold for at least £10M over market price after one good PL season. Shaw, £27M with Targett, who is a technically better LB in the wings. Chambers for £16M or around 700K a game (22 apps so far). Lovren; agitated a move from Lyon; agitated a move to Liverpool. £15M profit for a mercenary. Don't want Spider to go but pleased he's kept his trap shut .
Look on the bright side. If Kat wanted to sell she would have done two years ago. RK is a class appointment. The pipeline continues. (JWP, Targett, McQueen, Reed, Flannigan, McCarthy, Gallagher, Isgrove, Stephens, Sinclair). Two years ago who had heard of the £27M Shaw or the £16M Chambers. The point is that I absolutey feckin love this club and, despite what has happened this year, I do not ever ever ever want to go back to the days of Lowe and absolutely not the days of Branfoot, the genius who preferred "Oooh" Terry Hurlock to MLT.
The message from this Saints Til I Die of 40+ years standing is be careful what you wish for, look towards an amazing future and never ever believe what the red tops say. Word!
Well said Sir
[quote][p][bold]exiledinyork[/bold] wrote: I rarely post, but often look at DE comments. Can we all just take deep breath? Lambert, absolute star who no one can begrudge a dream move to home town team. Adam "You've changed" Lallana being sold for at least £10M over market price after one good PL season. Shaw, £27M with Targett, who is a technically better LB in the wings. Chambers for £16M or around 700K a game (22 apps so far). Lovren; agitated a move from Lyon; agitated a move to Liverpool. £15M profit for a mercenary. Don't want Spider to go but pleased he's kept his trap shut . Look on the bright side. If Kat wanted to sell she would have done two years ago. RK is a class appointment. The pipeline continues. (JWP, Targett, McQueen, Reed, Flannigan, McCarthy, Gallagher, Isgrove, Stephens, Sinclair). Two years ago who had heard of the £27M Shaw or the £16M Chambers. The point is that I absolutey feckin love this club and, despite what has happened this year, I do not ever ever ever want to go back to the days of Lowe and absolutely not the days of Branfoot, the genius who preferred "Oooh" Terry Hurlock to MLT. The message from this Saints Til I Die of 40+ years standing is be careful what you wish for, look towards an amazing future and never ever believe what the red tops say. Word![/p][/quote]Well said Sir windygale
  • Score: 1

4:49pm Mon 28 Jul 14

sledgerite says...

i dont hold with all this lambert back slapping,he was recently qoutes as saying he wanted to retire at saints,onlyto return to the club who rejected him at the start of his career saints saved his career if it wasnt for this club hed still be trundling around the lower leagues,i shant be clapping him
i dont hold with all this lambert back slapping,he was recently qoutes as saying he wanted to retire at saints,onlyto return to the club who rejected him at the start of his career saints saved his career if it wasnt for this club hed still be trundling around the lower leagues,i shant be clapping him sledgerite
  • Score: 0

5:57pm Mon 28 Jul 14

RedPastramy says...

Rupert Lowe's Backside wrote:
exiledinyork wrote:
I rarely post, but often look at DE comments. Can we all just take deep breath? Lambert, absolute star who no one can begrudge a dream move to home town team. Adam "You've changed" Lallana being sold for at least £10M over market price after one good PL season. Shaw, £27M with Targett, who is a technically better LB in the wings. Chambers for £16M or around 700K a game (22 apps so far). Lovren; agitated a move from Lyon; agitated a move to Liverpool. £15M profit for a mercenary. Don't want Spider to go but pleased he's kept his trap shut .
Look on the bright side. If Kat wanted to sell she would have done two years ago. RK is a class appointment. The pipeline continues. (JWP, Targett, McQueen, Reed, Flannigan, McCarthy, Gallagher, Isgrove, Stephens, Sinclair). Two years ago who had heard of the £27M Shaw or the £16M Chambers. The point is that I absolutey feckin love this club and, despite what has happened this year, I do not ever ever ever want to go back to the days of Lowe and absolutely not the days of Branfoot, the genius who preferred "Oooh" Terry Hurlock to MLT.
The message from this Saints Til I Die of 40+ years standing is be careful what you wish for, look towards an amazing future and never ever believe what the red tops say. Word!
Great post...its just business! Thats it at the end of the day, and yes we now have to rebuild under RoKo -- but we have got some good coin!!

The only concern I have always had is that being a WC year, was RoKo going to have the time to get the players he needed, and get them working together as a 'team'...a champion team will always beat a team of champions (less here Brendon Rogers!!)
I struggle to undestand how you can get excited by the pipeline continues for the big clubs?
We saw last year.. as soon as a bit of brightness appears at the club. The lights get dimmed. I have supported Saints since 1972 lots of ups and downs. But trying to get yourself excited at this moment in time is going to get very difficult. We get told that we have made two great purchases so far. I wonder how... if they are really that good. how the hell did we get them in the first place? we will be importing a lot more foreign players into our club mediocre ones at best. At least we will be prepared for opposition fans chants next year of "where have your players gone..."Does anyone else feel a new song coming on for the Saints ? How about Stripped Army?
[quote][p][bold]Rupert Lowe's Backside[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]exiledinyork[/bold] wrote: I rarely post, but often look at DE comments. Can we all just take deep breath? Lambert, absolute star who no one can begrudge a dream move to home town team. Adam "You've changed" Lallana being sold for at least £10M over market price after one good PL season. Shaw, £27M with Targett, who is a technically better LB in the wings. Chambers for £16M or around 700K a game (22 apps so far). Lovren; agitated a move from Lyon; agitated a move to Liverpool. £15M profit for a mercenary. Don't want Spider to go but pleased he's kept his trap shut . Look on the bright side. If Kat wanted to sell she would have done two years ago. RK is a class appointment. The pipeline continues. (JWP, Targett, McQueen, Reed, Flannigan, McCarthy, Gallagher, Isgrove, Stephens, Sinclair). Two years ago who had heard of the £27M Shaw or the £16M Chambers. The point is that I absolutey feckin love this club and, despite what has happened this year, I do not ever ever ever want to go back to the days of Lowe and absolutely not the days of Branfoot, the genius who preferred "Oooh" Terry Hurlock to MLT. The message from this Saints Til I Die of 40+ years standing is be careful what you wish for, look towards an amazing future and never ever believe what the red tops say. Word![/p][/quote]Great post...its just business! Thats it at the end of the day, and yes we now have to rebuild under RoKo -- but we have got some good coin!! The only concern I have always had is that being a WC year, was RoKo going to have the time to get the players he needed, and get them working together as a 'team'...a champion team will always beat a team of champions (less here Brendon Rogers!!)[/p][/quote]I struggle to undestand how you can get excited by the pipeline continues for the big clubs? We saw last year.. as soon as a bit of brightness appears at the club. The lights get dimmed. I have supported Saints since 1972 lots of ups and downs. But trying to get yourself excited at this moment in time is going to get very difficult. We get told that we have made two great purchases so far. I wonder how... if they are really that good. how the hell did we get them in the first place? we will be importing a lot more foreign players into our club mediocre ones at best. At least we will be prepared for opposition fans chants next year of "where have your players gone..."Does anyone else feel a new song coming on for the Saints ? How about Stripped Army? RedPastramy
  • Score: 0

8:26pm Mon 28 Jul 14

sharpee says...

RedPastramy wrote:
Rupert Lowe's Backside wrote:
exiledinyork wrote:
I rarely post, but often look at DE comments. Can we all just take deep breath? Lambert, absolute star who no one can begrudge a dream move to home town team. Adam "You've changed" Lallana being sold for at least £10M over market price after one good PL season. Shaw, £27M with Targett, who is a technically better LB in the wings. Chambers for £16M or around 700K a game (22 apps so far). Lovren; agitated a move from Lyon; agitated a move to Liverpool. £15M profit for a mercenary. Don't want Spider to go but pleased he's kept his trap shut .
Look on the bright side. If Kat wanted to sell she would have done two years ago. RK is a class appointment. The pipeline continues. (JWP, Targett, McQueen, Reed, Flannigan, McCarthy, Gallagher, Isgrove, Stephens, Sinclair). Two years ago who had heard of the £27M Shaw or the £16M Chambers. The point is that I absolutey feckin love this club and, despite what has happened this year, I do not ever ever ever want to go back to the days of Lowe and absolutely not the days of Branfoot, the genius who preferred "Oooh" Terry Hurlock to MLT.
The message from this Saints Til I Die of 40+ years standing is be careful what you wish for, look towards an amazing future and never ever believe what the red tops say. Word!
Great post...its just business! Thats it at the end of the day, and yes we now have to rebuild under RoKo -- but we have got some good coin!!

The only concern I have always had is that being a WC year, was RoKo going to have the time to get the players he needed, and get them working together as a 'team'...a champion team will always beat a team of champions (less here Brendon Rogers!!)
I struggle to undestand how you can get excited by the pipeline continues for the big clubs?
We saw last year.. as soon as a bit of brightness appears at the club. The lights get dimmed. I have supported Saints since 1972 lots of ups and downs. But trying to get yourself excited at this moment in time is going to get very difficult. We get told that we have made two great purchases so far. I wonder how... if they are really that good. how the hell did we get them in the first place? we will be importing a lot more foreign players into our club mediocre ones at best. At least we will be prepared for opposition fans chants next year of "where have your players gone..."Does anyone else feel a new song coming on for the Saints ? How about Stripped Army?
Can't see what all this doom is about. First manager poch was going when stated that Europa league was not for him and we peetered out, so he was off to a team that potentially may come 4th one season soon.
Lambert thanks for great service great goals and god luck. Adam well good player if a bit one paced still not sure on England regularity. Chambers and Shaw too young and greedy. Chambers not proven and bench warming I feel, Shaw well best left back who is English, says a lot really. Lovren good sale and bugger off, to risky can't tackle near box hope you get tonne of heckles if you play against Saints. If Morgan goes not actually a fire starter is he half a dozen goals in hundred plus games. Jay rod once a crock always a crock hope he gets fit soon but me thinks he won't be same player. So we have sold 4 so far bought 2 we have a some very good players left. Move on see what happens like all Saints fans have done since.,.,
[quote][p][bold]RedPastramy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Rupert Lowe's Backside[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]exiledinyork[/bold] wrote: I rarely post, but often look at DE comments. Can we all just take deep breath? Lambert, absolute star who no one can begrudge a dream move to home town team. Adam "You've changed" Lallana being sold for at least £10M over market price after one good PL season. Shaw, £27M with Targett, who is a technically better LB in the wings. Chambers for £16M or around 700K a game (22 apps so far). Lovren; agitated a move from Lyon; agitated a move to Liverpool. £15M profit for a mercenary. Don't want Spider to go but pleased he's kept his trap shut . Look on the bright side. If Kat wanted to sell she would have done two years ago. RK is a class appointment. The pipeline continues. (JWP, Targett, McQueen, Reed, Flannigan, McCarthy, Gallagher, Isgrove, Stephens, Sinclair). Two years ago who had heard of the £27M Shaw or the £16M Chambers. The point is that I absolutey feckin love this club and, despite what has happened this year, I do not ever ever ever want to go back to the days of Lowe and absolutely not the days of Branfoot, the genius who preferred "Oooh" Terry Hurlock to MLT. The message from this Saints Til I Die of 40+ years standing is be careful what you wish for, look towards an amazing future and never ever believe what the red tops say. Word![/p][/quote]Great post...its just business! Thats it at the end of the day, and yes we now have to rebuild under RoKo -- but we have got some good coin!! The only concern I have always had is that being a WC year, was RoKo going to have the time to get the players he needed, and get them working together as a 'team'...a champion team will always beat a team of champions (less here Brendon Rogers!!)[/p][/quote]I struggle to undestand how you can get excited by the pipeline continues for the big clubs? We saw last year.. as soon as a bit of brightness appears at the club. The lights get dimmed. I have supported Saints since 1972 lots of ups and downs. But trying to get yourself excited at this moment in time is going to get very difficult. We get told that we have made two great purchases so far. I wonder how... if they are really that good. how the hell did we get them in the first place? we will be importing a lot more foreign players into our club mediocre ones at best. At least we will be prepared for opposition fans chants next year of "where have your players gone..."Does anyone else feel a new song coming on for the Saints ? How about Stripped Army?[/p][/quote]Can't see what all this doom is about. First manager poch was going when stated that Europa league was not for him and we peetered out, so he was off to a team that potentially may come 4th one season soon. Lambert thanks for great service great goals and god luck. Adam well good player if a bit one paced still not sure on England regularity. Chambers and Shaw too young and greedy. Chambers not proven and bench warming I feel, Shaw well best left back who is English, says a lot really. Lovren good sale and bugger off, to risky can't tackle near box hope you get tonne of heckles if you play against Saints. If Morgan goes not actually a fire starter is he half a dozen goals in hundred plus games. Jay rod once a crock always a crock hope he gets fit soon but me thinks he won't be same player. So we have sold 4 so far bought 2 we have a some very good players left. Move on see what happens like all Saints fans have done since.,., sharpee
  • Score: 0

12:45am Tue 29 Jul 14

KiwiSaint74 says...

de Heiligen paard 101 wrote:
costa gaz wrote:
Once again the player is vilified for moving and the board gets praised for some astute business deal.

Are all these players bad people, or could it be that our boards lack of ambition has something to do with it. No attempt to improve any of departed players contracts tell me they are not prepared to invest.

To get a return one must invest, but all this board did was dig their heals in for more money making the players look very bad in the process.
The players are not bad people they are showing ambition buy moving away from a stagnating club.

I do understand that we cannot compete with the big clubs and players will leave... but so many in such a short space of time tells me the club has a problem.
yet again gaz all you do is sneer and snipe at saints who want the club to succeed!
I have yet to hear you say what you would have done in the same position!
new contracts were offered to lielanna and luke last summer, dejerk signed his deal last year. should the club have to offer new contracts every year? how long will that last? new contracts have been offered to some players. perhaps the board knew these players were going to go no matter what! the players haven't gone because the club lacks ambition, if that was all that mattered why have they all insisted on huge pay rises at their new clubs? if dejerk wanted to hear that song every week and play in the champs league, and that was all that was important to him, why didn't he want to go to celtic instead? they have more home games than liverhampton so he could have heard it a lot more. simple answer WAGES!
dejerk moaned that the club was selling its best players, haven't liverhampton just done the same with their one world class player?
luke signed a 5yr deal last summer and was told by NC, the holly one, that he could go next summer, was lelanna offered the same deal? is that why the toys went flying? dejerk moans about player sales but was he not told that luke/lielanna had deals to go this year? why did he have an agreement with NC the magnificent saying he could go for a £20mill offer?
you criticise the board but they have only been in place for a few months and have had to deal with the contracts and deals that NC the wonderful did. les reed was here under NC but its clear he wasn't involved in the deals NC the great and powerful did. would the players have left if NC the wise and knowing was still here? some think he had magical powers to help keep the players, but he told luke he could go, he probably did the same with lielanna, he told dejerk he could go for £20mill, he tried to sell rickie to hoof! so its probable these players would still have gone, and they couldn't have blamed ambition then. it would have been the same reason as now MONEY!
anyone who thinks we could offer the same wages to the players as they are getting now is very sadly mistaken! we cant compete with the big clubs, that may change with shrewd long term investment and planning, but it was never going to happen in a year or two.
do you think the board were wrong to dig their heals in and try to get as much as they could for the players? should they have just sold them for the first offer, like the one we got for lielanna? remember? it was around £12-£15mill mostly made up of add ons. should we have taken that just to make lielanna look better? we were offered less than £20mill for luke, should we have taken that?
players are being slated because of their actions, and passionate fans feel the pain of them going and the way they did it! if your happy with lielanna for telling the club he would never play again and for saying he was dreaming of playing for another club for most of last season while he was supposed to be the captain of our club. are you happy with dejerk for the way he spoke about the club and saying his head was in liverhampton for the vast majority of last season.
we might have had a far better season if these players actually wanted to be here! luke didn't care too much as he knew he was off, lielanna was in dreamland and dejerks head stayed at liverhampton most of the year. these players felt like this long before NC the all seeing left so how, please tell me HOW is it the fault of the current board? I know you wont as it doesn't fit in with your neggie views but that's the truth and the reality of our situation!
Yup, too right.
[quote][p][bold]de Heiligen paard 101[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]costa gaz[/bold] wrote: Once again the player is vilified for moving and the board gets praised for some astute business deal. Are all these players bad people, or could it be that our boards lack of ambition has something to do with it. No attempt to improve any of departed players contracts tell me they are not prepared to invest. To get a return one must invest, but all this board did was dig their heals in for more money making the players look very bad in the process. The players are not bad people they are showing ambition buy moving away from a stagnating club. I do understand that we cannot compete with the big clubs and players will leave... but so many in such a short space of time tells me the club has a problem.[/p][/quote]yet again gaz all you do is sneer and snipe at saints who want the club to succeed! I have yet to hear you say what you would have done in the same position! new contracts were offered to lielanna and luke last summer, dejerk signed his deal last year. should the club have to offer new contracts every year? how long will that last? new contracts have been offered to some players. perhaps the board knew these players were going to go no matter what! the players haven't gone because the club lacks ambition, if that was all that mattered why have they all insisted on huge pay rises at their new clubs? if dejerk wanted to hear that song every week and play in the champs league, and that was all that was important to him, why didn't he want to go to celtic instead? they have more home games than liverhampton so he could have heard it a lot more. simple answer WAGES! dejerk moaned that the club was selling its best players, haven't liverhampton just done the same with their one world class player? luke signed a 5yr deal last summer and was told by NC, the holly one, that he could go next summer, was lelanna offered the same deal? is that why the toys went flying? dejerk moans about player sales but was he not told that luke/lielanna had deals to go this year? why did he have an agreement with NC the magnificent saying he could go for a £20mill offer? you criticise the board but they have only been in place for a few months and have had to deal with the contracts and deals that NC the wonderful did. les reed was here under NC but its clear he wasn't involved in the deals NC the great and powerful did. would the players have left if NC the wise and knowing was still here? some think he had magical powers to help keep the players, but he told luke he could go, he probably did the same with lielanna, he told dejerk he could go for £20mill, he tried to sell rickie to hoof! so its probable these players would still have gone, and they couldn't have blamed ambition then. it would have been the same reason as now MONEY! anyone who thinks we could offer the same wages to the players as they are getting now is very sadly mistaken! we cant compete with the big clubs, that may change with shrewd long term investment and planning, but it was never going to happen in a year or two. do you think the board were wrong to dig their heals in and try to get as much as they could for the players? should they have just sold them for the first offer, like the one we got for lielanna? remember? it was around £12-£15mill mostly made up of add ons. should we have taken that just to make lielanna look better? we were offered less than £20mill for luke, should we have taken that? players are being slated because of their actions, and passionate fans feel the pain of them going and the way they did it! if your happy with lielanna for telling the club he would never play again and for saying he was dreaming of playing for another club for most of last season while he was supposed to be the captain of our club. are you happy with dejerk for the way he spoke about the club and saying his head was in liverhampton for the vast majority of last season. we might have had a far better season if these players actually wanted to be here! luke didn't care too much as he knew he was off, lielanna was in dreamland and dejerks head stayed at liverhampton most of the year. these players felt like this long before NC the all seeing left so how, please tell me HOW is it the fault of the current board? I know you wont as it doesn't fit in with your neggie views but that's the truth and the reality of our situation![/p][/quote]Yup, too right. KiwiSaint74
  • Score: 0

3:19pm Tue 29 Jul 14

Beer Monster says...

Columbo's Glass Eye wrote:
Let's all just pause for one second and remember how brilliant life was with Adkins at the helm. He built the quality team we still have the remnants of today. Thanks Nigel. All your hard work is going down the pan. Anyway, moving on. Koemans basically got a very small amount of time lo get the supporters excited again. I think he'll do it. The players lost are a shame but better now than giving any less than 100% on the pitch. My worry is that we may be narrow minded and only be looking for players he knows personally or dutch players. There are millions of good players out there so come on Les lets sign 2-3 and have a great season.
This. Lots.
[quote][p][bold]Columbo's Glass Eye[/bold] wrote: Let's all just pause for one second and remember how brilliant life was with Adkins at the helm. He built the quality team we still have the remnants of today. Thanks Nigel. All your hard work is going down the pan. Anyway, moving on. Koemans basically got a very small amount of time lo get the supporters excited again. I think he'll do it. The players lost are a shame but better now than giving any less than 100% on the pitch. My worry is that we may be narrow minded and only be looking for players he knows personally or dutch players. There are millions of good players out there so come on Les lets sign 2-3 and have a great season.[/p][/quote]This. Lots. Beer Monster
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