Karen Murphy wins legal battle with Premier League over foreign decoders conviction

Karen Murphy

The Red, White and Blue pub in Portsmouth

First published in Business

A HAMPSHIRE pub landlady has won her legal battle to overturn her conviction for using foreign decoders to show Premier League football matches.

It was conceded in the High Court today that Karen Murphy's appeal over using a cheaper Greek decoder in her Portsmouth pub to bypass controls over match screening must be allowed.

The concession follows a European Court of Justice (ECJ) ruling that found partly in her favour on various issues of law.

But a judge made clear that many other complex issues regarding the wider legality of screening matches would have to be decided ''at a later date''.

Instead of using Sky, which has the rights to screen the Premier League in the UK, Ms Murphy used the Greek station Nova's coverage in her pub, which was cheaper than the equivalent Sky package.

She paid £800 a year for a Greek decoder, saying she ''couldn't afford'' Sky's charge of £700 a month.

She took her fight for the right to use the cheaper provider to the European Court of Justice (ECJ) which ruled in October 2011 that having an exclusive system was ''contrary to EU law''.

But the Premier League claimed a partial victory, after the ECJ said it maintained the copyright for some sections of the broadcast, such as on-screen logos and graphics.

Mrs Murphy, who runs The Red, White and Blue pub in Fawcett Road, Portsmouth, said she believed she had won ''90%'' of the battle.

The ruling was enough for all sides to concede today at London's High Court that Ms Murphy's conviction could not stand, - though many issues over screening games remain outstanding.

Mrs Murphy took her fight to the ECJ after being ordered to pay almost £8,000 in fines and costs.

The case is being seen as of importance to the way soccer TV rights are sold in the future and could have a crucial impact on the game as a whole.

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11:17am Fri 24 Feb 12

The Salv says...

Great, thats my Sky Bills going up next year. Cheers lady :(
Great, thats my Sky Bills going up next year. Cheers lady :( The Salv
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11:22am Fri 24 Feb 12

MisterGrimsdale says...

Sky's money has killed football. Well done to this lady for hitting back. I'll be in for a pint.
Sky's money has killed football. Well done to this lady for hitting back. I'll be in for a pint. MisterGrimsdale
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11:40am Fri 24 Feb 12

Shoong says...

MisterGrimsdale wrote:
Sky's money has killed football. Well done to this lady for hitting back. I'll be in for a pint.
I'm not sure about 'killed' football, English football has prospered in some respects & it's a much safer place to go now.

Yes, there are drawbacks but it's a business & business's rely on making money.

Being a Saints supporter, we've seen the bad side of it, but I don't think you'll find anyone protesting outside of St Mary's if the club are promoted to the Premier League this year.

Yes, the financial balance in football is severely out of whack, but if you take P*mpey's example, they are a poorly run business & just like any other poorly run business they are subject to the same rules & regulations.

Anyways, it could be that the locals won't have a team to support for much longer, they've got to have something to watch.
[quote][p][bold]MisterGrimsdale[/bold] wrote: Sky's money has killed football. Well done to this lady for hitting back. I'll be in for a pint.[/p][/quote]I'm not sure about 'killed' football, English football has prospered in some respects & it's a much safer place to go now. Yes, there are drawbacks but it's a business & business's rely on making money. Being a Saints supporter, we've seen the bad side of it, but I don't think you'll find anyone protesting outside of St Mary's if the club are promoted to the Premier League this year. Yes, the financial balance in football is severely out of whack, but if you take P*mpey's example, they are a poorly run business & just like any other poorly run business they are subject to the same rules & regulations. Anyways, it could be that the locals won't have a team to support for much longer, they've got to have something to watch. Shoong
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11:53am Fri 24 Feb 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

MisterGrimsdale wrote:
Sky's money has killed football. Well done to this lady for hitting back. I'll be in for a pint.
No it hasn't. It's the incompetent way in which it has been spent by clubs on ever higher wages that has killed football.
[quote][p][bold]MisterGrimsdale[/bold] wrote: Sky's money has killed football. Well done to this lady for hitting back. I'll be in for a pint.[/p][/quote]No it hasn't. It's the incompetent way in which it has been spent by clubs on ever higher wages that has killed football. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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11:58am Fri 24 Feb 12

alan.of.eastleigh says...

MisterGrimsdale wrote:
Sky's money has killed football. Well done to this lady for hitting back. I'll be in for a pint.
You know you will have to go to Portsouth to do that don't you. You really want to do that???
[quote][p][bold]MisterGrimsdale[/bold] wrote: Sky's money has killed football. Well done to this lady for hitting back. I'll be in for a pint.[/p][/quote]You know you will have to go to Portsouth to do that don't you. You really want to do that??? alan.of.eastleigh
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1:15pm Fri 24 Feb 12

Seedhouse the Unrepentant says...

It's good of her to do this as the people of Portsmouth will only have televised football shortly.
It's good of her to do this as the people of Portsmouth will only have televised football shortly. Seedhouse the Unrepentant
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2:07pm Fri 24 Feb 12

Matt Probert says...

Sounds like a great victory for free trade, might make Sky reconsider its excessive charges.
Sounds like a great victory for free trade, might make Sky reconsider its excessive charges. Matt Probert
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2:52pm Fri 24 Feb 12

hassankeith says...

f_ _ k to sky cheers karen murphys and the pub hassan in brighton east-sussex
f_ _ k to sky cheers karen murphys and the pub hassan in brighton east-sussex hassankeith
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3:23pm Fri 24 Feb 12

costa gaz says...

The football bubble that has lasted 20 years is getting closer and closer to bursting.
Can't wait for the glorious day that football becomes a realistic game once more, when footballers become normal blokes and not A list celebrities flouting their wealth and status to all.
The football bubble that has lasted 20 years is getting closer and closer to bursting. Can't wait for the glorious day that football becomes a realistic game once more, when footballers become normal blokes and not A list celebrities flouting their wealth and status to all. costa gaz
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3:27pm Fri 24 Feb 12

southy says...

MisterGrimsdale wrote:
Sky's money has killed football. Well done to this lady for hitting back. I'll be in for a pint.
She as done a good thing, we are ment to be in an open free trade market place.
[quote][p][bold]MisterGrimsdale[/bold] wrote: Sky's money has killed football. Well done to this lady for hitting back. I'll be in for a pint.[/p][/quote]She as done a good thing, we are ment to be in an open free trade market place. southy
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5:26pm Fri 24 Feb 12

freefinker says...

southy wrote:
MisterGrimsdale wrote:
Sky's money has killed football. Well done to this lady for hitting back. I'll be in for a pint.
She as done a good thing, we are ment to be in an open free trade market place.
.. but, didn't you oppose joining the EC in the 1975 referendum?
.. and, aren't you opposed to the 'open free trade (i.e. capitalist) market place?
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MisterGrimsdale[/bold] wrote: Sky's money has killed football. Well done to this lady for hitting back. I'll be in for a pint.[/p][/quote]She as done a good thing, we are ment to be in an open free trade market place.[/p][/quote].. but, didn't you oppose joining the EC in the 1975 referendum? .. and, aren't you opposed to the 'open free trade (i.e. capitalist) market place? freefinker
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6:32pm Fri 24 Feb 12

dango says...

southy wrote:
MisterGrimsdale wrote:
Sky's money has killed football. Well done to this lady for hitting back. I'll be in for a pint.
She as done a good thing, we are ment to be in an open free trade market place.
Southy, I knew it, a closet capitalist. I'm taking a screenshot of that post, printing it and framing it!
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MisterGrimsdale[/bold] wrote: Sky's money has killed football. Well done to this lady for hitting back. I'll be in for a pint.[/p][/quote]She as done a good thing, we are ment to be in an open free trade market place.[/p][/quote]Southy, I knew it, a closet capitalist. I'm taking a screenshot of that post, printing it and framing it! dango
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6:56pm Fri 24 Feb 12

Nine Toes. says...

She's a Skate. Who cares.
She's a Skate. Who cares. Nine Toes.
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7:26pm Fri 24 Feb 12

SPIKEISLANDTRADER says...

WELL DONE The RED WHITE & BLUE , 1 over on a monopoly blood suckling leach , lets hope more stand up and fight for OUR rights , not be told what to do .
WELL DONE The RED WHITE & BLUE , 1 over on a monopoly blood suckling leach , lets hope more stand up and fight for OUR rights , not be told what to do . SPIKEISLANDTRADER
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7:30pm Fri 24 Feb 12

Bovine_Cannibal says...

Good work Mrs Murphy. I'll pop in for a pint next time in the area.
Good work Mrs Murphy. I'll pop in for a pint next time in the area. Bovine_Cannibal
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7:37pm Fri 24 Feb 12

Fatty x Ford Worker says...

Do i really want to know that its in Skateland!
Do i really want to know that its in Skateland! Fatty x Ford Worker
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7:40pm Fri 24 Feb 12

andysaints007 says...

Seedhouse the Unrepentant wrote:
MisterGrimsdale wrote:
Sky's money has killed football. Well done to this lady for hitting back. I'll be in for a pint.
No it hasn't. It's the incompetent way in which it has been spent by clubs on ever higher wages that has killed football.
Yes it has!! Or more to the point it has 'killed football' as we knew it !!! Now its about money not football unfortunately - but thats the way of the world now!!
[quote][p][bold]Seedhouse the Unrepentant[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MisterGrimsdale[/bold] wrote: Sky's money has killed football. Well done to this lady for hitting back. I'll be in for a pint.[/p][/quote]No it hasn't. It's the incompetent way in which it has been spent by clubs on ever higher wages that has killed football.[/p][/quote]Yes it has!! Or more to the point it has 'killed football' as we knew it !!! Now its about money not football unfortunately - but thats the way of the world now!! andysaints007
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7:58pm Fri 24 Feb 12

The Salv says...

Matt Probert wrote:
Sounds like a great victory for free trade, might make Sky reconsider its excessive charges.
Commercially maybe but they will hit the normal home customers with the higher charges instead. Far as I am concerned she has opened up a can of worms and all so she could make more profit nothing to do with not being able to afford it. When your Sky bills go up you know who to thank.
[quote][p][bold]Matt Probert[/bold] wrote: Sounds like a great victory for free trade, might make Sky reconsider its excessive charges.[/p][/quote]Commercially maybe but they will hit the normal home customers with the higher charges instead. Far as I am concerned she has opened up a can of worms and all so she could make more profit nothing to do with not being able to afford it. When your Sky bills go up you know who to thank. The Salv
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8:17pm Fri 24 Feb 12

forest hump says...

The Salv wrote:
Matt Probert wrote:
Sounds like a great victory for free trade, might make Sky reconsider its excessive charges.
Commercially maybe but they will hit the normal home customers with the higher charges instead. Far as I am concerned she has opened up a can of worms and all so she could make more profit nothing to do with not being able to afford it. When your Sky bills go up you know who to thank.
Easy, dump SKY, use Greek! Not hard is it?
[quote][p][bold]The Salv[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Matt Probert[/bold] wrote: Sounds like a great victory for free trade, might make Sky reconsider its excessive charges.[/p][/quote]Commercially maybe but they will hit the normal home customers with the higher charges instead. Far as I am concerned she has opened up a can of worms and all so she could make more profit nothing to do with not being able to afford it. When your Sky bills go up you know who to thank.[/p][/quote]Easy, dump SKY, use Greek! Not hard is it? forest hump
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8:22pm Fri 24 Feb 12

bazzeroz says...

Some of you p.ricks on here claiming to be football fans. You should be ashamed of the way you are behaving just because someone from 'Portsmouth' won a legal battle concerning football! Grow up you aerosoles! And I'm from Southampton. Who cares where I'm from? The answer should be 'no one'.
Some of you p.ricks on here claiming to be football fans. You should be ashamed of the way you are behaving just because someone from 'Portsmouth' won a legal battle concerning football! Grow up you aerosoles! And I'm from Southampton. Who cares where I'm from? The answer should be 'no one'. bazzeroz
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8:47pm Fri 24 Feb 12

The Salv says...

forest hump wrote:
The Salv wrote:
Matt Probert wrote: Sounds like a great victory for free trade, might make Sky reconsider its excessive charges.
Commercially maybe but they will hit the normal home customers with the higher charges instead. Far as I am concerned she has opened up a can of worms and all so she could make more profit nothing to do with not being able to afford it. When your Sky bills go up you know who to thank.
Easy, dump SKY, use Greek! Not hard is it?
Dont think it is quite as simple as that.
[quote][p][bold]forest hump[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Salv[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Matt Probert[/bold] wrote: Sounds like a great victory for free trade, might make Sky reconsider its excessive charges.[/p][/quote]Commercially maybe but they will hit the normal home customers with the higher charges instead. Far as I am concerned she has opened up a can of worms and all so she could make more profit nothing to do with not being able to afford it. When your Sky bills go up you know who to thank.[/p][/quote]Easy, dump SKY, use Greek! Not hard is it?[/p][/quote]Dont think it is quite as simple as that. The Salv
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9:24pm Fri 24 Feb 12

Reality-man says...

A Premier league victory in Pompey? Can't see that happening again
A Premier league victory in Pompey? Can't see that happening again Reality-man
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9:49pm Fri 24 Feb 12

southy says...

dango wrote:
southy wrote:
MisterGrimsdale wrote:
Sky's money has killed football. Well done to this lady for hitting back. I'll be in for a pint.
She as done a good thing, we are ment to be in an open free trade market place.
Southy, I knew it, a closet capitalist. I'm taking a screenshot of that post, printing it and framing it!
LOL dango, read between my lines. and what I have said in the pass.
There is such thing as an open free Trade market, because the Corporation control it, and they will not allow a Nationalise Industry, They don't like the ordinary person on the street to be able to take there business, to any where they like a round the world to do there trade.
To the Corporations you can do business with who ever you like as long its with them.
[quote][p][bold]dango[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MisterGrimsdale[/bold] wrote: Sky's money has killed football. Well done to this lady for hitting back. I'll be in for a pint.[/p][/quote]She as done a good thing, we are ment to be in an open free trade market place.[/p][/quote]Southy, I knew it, a closet capitalist. I'm taking a screenshot of that post, printing it and framing it![/p][/quote]LOL dango, read between my lines. and what I have said in the pass. There is such thing as an open free Trade market, because the Corporation control it, and they will not allow a Nationalise Industry, They don't like the ordinary person on the street to be able to take there business, to any where they like a round the world to do there trade. To the Corporations you can do business with who ever you like as long its with them. southy
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10:00pm Fri 24 Feb 12

opera phantom says...

While I don't follow football, I am
just glad to see one of our High Court
Judges over rule the European
Court. It's about time the EU
were put in their place.
Just a bunch of parasites, on the
fiddle and wanting to control us.
So Stuff them
While I don't follow football, I am just glad to see one of our High Court Judges over rule the European Court. It's about time the EU were put in their place. Just a bunch of parasites, on the fiddle and wanting to control us. So Stuff them opera phantom
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10:01pm Fri 24 Feb 12

southy says...

freefinker wrote:
southy wrote:
MisterGrimsdale wrote:
Sky's money has killed football. Well done to this lady for hitting back. I'll be in for a pint.
She as done a good thing, we are ment to be in an open free trade market place.
.. but, didn't you oppose joining the EC in the 1975 referendum?
.. and, aren't you opposed to the 'open free trade (i.e. capitalist) market place?
I was oppose to the EC, but sadly like all other seamen that was away at the time, was not allowed to vote in the referedum.
The open world free trade market was an Socialist idea (Karl Marx), it was never meant to be controlled by the few the Capitalist, what you got is not an open market place, but a Monoploies controlled market place.
A true open market will allow all types of run Industrys including a Nationalised Industry and a State owned Co-op Industry, you be allowed to do your banking with who ever you like and not as it is now set up so there is a min limit to be able to, and people would have the freedom of choice who they trade with and where they trade with.
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MisterGrimsdale[/bold] wrote: Sky's money has killed football. Well done to this lady for hitting back. I'll be in for a pint.[/p][/quote]She as done a good thing, we are ment to be in an open free trade market place.[/p][/quote].. but, didn't you oppose joining the EC in the 1975 referendum? .. and, aren't you opposed to the 'open free trade (i.e. capitalist) market place?[/p][/quote]I was oppose to the EC, but sadly like all other seamen that was away at the time, was not allowed to vote in the referedum. The open world free trade market was an Socialist idea (Karl Marx), it was never meant to be controlled by the few the Capitalist, what you got is not an open market place, but a Monoploies controlled market place. A true open market will allow all types of run Industrys including a Nationalised Industry and a State owned Co-op Industry, you be allowed to do your banking with who ever you like and not as it is now set up so there is a min limit to be able to, and people would have the freedom of choice who they trade with and where they trade with. southy
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10:03pm Fri 24 Feb 12

southy says...

oh PS freefinker A true open free trade market do not need a like the EU to be able to opperate.
Think about it
oh PS freefinker A true open free trade market do not need a like the EU to be able to opperate. Think about it southy
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10:28pm Fri 24 Feb 12

forest hump says...

opera phantom wrote:
While I don't follow football, I am
just glad to see one of our High Court
Judges over rule the European
Court. It's about time the EU
were put in their place.
Just a bunch of parasites, on the
fiddle and wanting to control us.
So Stuff them
Agree absolutely. Europeans should keep their greedy snouts out.
[quote][p][bold]opera phantom[/bold] wrote: While I don't follow football, I am just glad to see one of our High Court Judges over rule the European Court. It's about time the EU were put in their place. Just a bunch of parasites, on the fiddle and wanting to control us. So Stuff them[/p][/quote]Agree absolutely. Europeans should keep their greedy snouts out. forest hump
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11:02pm Fri 24 Feb 12

southy says...

forest hump wrote:
opera phantom wrote:
While I don't follow football, I am
just glad to see one of our High Court
Judges over rule the European
Court. It's about time the EU
were put in their place.
Just a bunch of parasites, on the
fiddle and wanting to control us.
So Stuff them
Agree absolutely. Europeans should keep their greedy snouts out.
The concession follows a European Court of Justice (ECJ) ruling that found partly in her favour on various issues of law
[quote][p][bold]forest hump[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]opera phantom[/bold] wrote: While I don't follow football, I am just glad to see one of our High Court Judges over rule the European Court. It's about time the EU were put in their place. Just a bunch of parasites, on the fiddle and wanting to control us. So Stuff them[/p][/quote]Agree absolutely. Europeans should keep their greedy snouts out.[/p][/quote]The concession follows a European Court of Justice (ECJ) ruling that found partly in her favour on various issues of law southy
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11:04pm Fri 24 Feb 12

southy says...

southy wrote:
forest hump wrote:
opera phantom wrote:
While I don't follow football, I am
just glad to see one of our High Court
Judges over rule the European
Court. It's about time the EU
were put in their place.
Just a bunch of parasites, on the
fiddle and wanting to control us.
So Stuff them
Agree absolutely. Europeans should keep their greedy snouts out.
The concession follows a European Court of Justice (ECJ) ruling that found partly in her favour on various issues of law
It only took place in our High Court the Judges where European Court Judges
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]forest hump[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]opera phantom[/bold] wrote: While I don't follow football, I am just glad to see one of our High Court Judges over rule the European Court. It's about time the EU were put in their place. Just a bunch of parasites, on the fiddle and wanting to control us. So Stuff them[/p][/quote]Agree absolutely. Europeans should keep their greedy snouts out.[/p][/quote]The concession follows a European Court of Justice (ECJ) ruling that found partly in her favour on various issues of law[/p][/quote]It only took place in our High Court the Judges where European Court Judges southy
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2:28am Sat 25 Feb 12

andysaints007 says...

forest hump wrote:
opera phantom wrote:
While I don't follow football, I am
just glad to see one of our High Court
Judges over rule the European
Court. It's about time the EU
were put in their place.
Just a bunch of parasites, on the
fiddle and wanting to control us.
So Stuff them
Agree absolutely. Europeans should keep their greedy snouts out.
It was the European court that found in her favour !! DOH
[quote][p][bold]forest hump[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]opera phantom[/bold] wrote: While I don't follow football, I am just glad to see one of our High Court Judges over rule the European Court. It's about time the EU were put in their place. Just a bunch of parasites, on the fiddle and wanting to control us. So Stuff them[/p][/quote]Agree absolutely. Europeans should keep their greedy snouts out.[/p][/quote]It was the European court that found in her favour !! DOH andysaints007
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8:05am Sat 25 Feb 12

SPIKEISLANDTRADER says...

D2 mac decoders and a array of OTHER ! ways to access FREE FILMS / SPORT etc have been around for years. LEGAL and easy to buy . subscribe to basic SKY package and buy a add on to access the premium price channels , with NO excess monthly costs to view . There is a world of choice to save money and not feed the SKY LEACHES
D2 mac decoders and a array of OTHER ! ways to access FREE FILMS / SPORT etc have been around for years. LEGAL and easy to buy . subscribe to basic SKY package and buy a add on to access the premium price channels , with NO excess monthly costs to view . There is a world of choice to save money and not feed the SKY LEACHES SPIKEISLANDTRADER
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