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  • "I was referring to the pool of tourists as a whole being potential customers of the cruise lines operating from Liverpool in the future.

    Because of our rich musical heritage and I am not just referring to the Beatles etc. and our twinning arrangements with Shanghai we get a great deal more tourists from China than Southampton and Dover combined.
    For your information since you appear to be a dunce regarding these things, There is a very highly treasured building in Shanghai which is almost an exact copy of the Royal Liver Building in Liverpool.

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    LOOSEHEAD you asked me earlier on another posting in this paper.

    " Exactly how long ago was Liverpool Englands second city? what happened to all the people living there? "

    You asked the question here is the answer courtesy of Wikipedia.

    " For periods during the 19th century the wealth of Liverpool exceeded that of London itself, and Liverpool's Custom House was the single largest contributor to the British Exchequer. Liverpool's status can be judged from the fact that it was the only British city ever to have its own Whitehall office.
    The first United States consul anywhere in the world, James Maury, was appointed to Liverpool in 1790, and remained in office for 39 years.

    As early as 1851 the city was described as "the New York of Europe" and its buildings, constructed on a heroic, even megalomaniacal scale stand witness to the supreme confidence and ambition of the city at the turn of the 20th century.
    Liverpool was also the site of the UK's first provincial airport, operating from 1930.

    Elgar's Pomp and Circumstance March No.1, often seen as Britain's Imperial anthem, was dedicated by the composer to the Liverpool Orchestral Society and had its premiere in the city in October 1901.

    During the Second World War, the critical strategic importance of Liverpool was recognised by both Hitler and Churchill, with the city suffering a blitz second only to London's, and the pivotal Battle of the Atlantic being planned, fought and won from Liverpool.

    During the Second World War Liverpool was the worst bombed city after London and in post war years a large portion of the population was re-housed by the government of the day in new towns ie:- Runcorn New Town, Winsford, Skelmersdale etc

    Ferries, railways, transatlantic steamships, municipal trams, electric trains and the helicopter were all pioneered in Liverpool as modes of mass transit. In 1829 and 1836 the first underground railway tunnels in the world were constructed under Liverpool.

    The first School for the Blind, Mechanics' Institute, High School for Girls, council house and Juvenile Court were all founded in Liverpool. The RSPCA, NSPCC, Age Concern, Relate, Citizen's Advice Bureau and Legal Aid all evolved from work in the city.

    In the field of public health, the first lifeboat station, public baths and wash-houses, sanitary act, medical officer for health, district nurse, slum clearance, purpose-built ambulance, X-ray medical diagnosis, school of tropical medicine, motorised municipal fire-engine, free school milk and school meals, cancer research centre, and zoonosis research centre all originated in Liverpool. The first British Nobel Prize was awarded in 1902 to Ronald Ross, professor at the School of Tropical Medicine, the first school of its kind in the world. Orthopaedic surgery was pioneered in Liverpool by Hugh Owen Thomas, and modern medical anaesthetics by Thomas Cecil Gray.
    Oriel Chambers, the first 'modern' building in the world.

    In finance, Liverpool founded the UK's first Underwriters' Association and the first Institute of Accountants. The Western world's first financial derivatives (cotton futures) were traded on the Liverpool Cotton Exchange in the late 1700s.

    In the arts, Liverpool was home to the first lending library, athenaeum society, arts centre and public art conservation centre. Liverpool is also home to the UK's oldest surviving classical orchestra, the Royal Liverpool Philharmonic Orchestra.

    In 1864, Peter Ellis built the world's first iron-framed, curtain-walled office building, Oriel Chambers, the prototype of the skyscraper. The UK's first purpose-built department store was Compton House, completed in 1867 for the retailer J.R. Jeffrey, to replace a previous building which had burned down in 1865. It was the largest store in the world at the time.

    Between 1862 and 1867, Liverpool held an annual Grand Olympic Festival. Devised by John Hulley and Charles Melly, these games were the first to be wholly amateur in nature and international in outlook. The programme of the first modern Olympiad in Athens in 1896 was almost identical to that of the Liverpool Olympics. In 1865 Hulley co-founded the National Olympian Association in Liverpool, a forerunner of the British Olympic Association. Its articles of foundation provided the framework for the International Olympic Charter.

    I have reasons a plenty to be proud of my home City, before you criticise anything about a person or a city or a people, I suggest you think before you open your mouth. Humility is a wonderful thing.

    All information listed can be found on wikipedia."
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Southampton Itchen MP John Denham accuses Liverpool

Southampton Itchen MP John Denham Southampton Itchen MP John Denham

Southampton’S cruise business rival has been accused of breaking the law after launching its first turnaround voyage last night.

City MP John Denham accused Liverpool of jumping the gun by starting a cruise less than a week after the Government said restrictions on the city would be lifted if it paid back public cash used to build a new terminal.

Shipping minister Mike Penning said the city would no longer be limited to offering calling cruises if it makes a one-off payment of £8.8m, or £12.6m over 15 years.

Despite him adding that the removal of the restriction by the Government would depend on the European Commission granting state aid clearance, as £8.6m of European cash was used to build it, last night the 740- passenger Ocean Countess left the terminal.

Labour Southampton Itchen MP Mr Denham said he believes Liverpool should have waited for the official green light before launching turnaround cruises.

He said: “Not until Liverpool has repaid the money and Brussels agreed to it will the restrictions be lifted. Liverpool is certainly going against the restrictions. The rules are there to protect fair competition for everybody.

“Brussels needs to decide if this is legal. If they are breaking the law the Government needs to stop them.”

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