Europe to demand Liverpool repays cruise cash

Europe to demand Liverpool repays cruise cash

Europe to demand Liverpool repays cruise cash

Richard Willams has been lobbying Europe

South East MEP Daniel Hannan and North East MEP Martin Callanan meeting with Commissioner Almunia

First published in Business Daily Echo: Photograph of the Author by , Education Reporter

LIVERPOOL looks likely to have to pay back its full European grant before it can legally use its taxpayer-funded terminal as a start and finish point for lucrative cruises.

Southampton’s cruise business rival has already been told it must repay £8.8m of UK state aid given towards its Pier Head terminal, and a Hampshire Euro MP and the city’s council leader both said yesterday they are hopeful EU bosses will also demand its cash be returned.

Port bosses and politicians representing the south coast have argued that using public cash to tout for business against Southampton docks, which has been developed through private funding, gives Liverpool an unfair advantage.

The Merseyside city has already been accused of jumping the gun by already launching its first “turnaround” cruise, less than a week after the Government said restrictions on the city would be lifted if it paid back public cash used to build a new terminal.

Shipping minister Mike Penning said the city would no longer be limited to offering calling cruises if it makes a one-off payment, or £12.6m over 15 years, subject to the European Commission granting state aid clearance.

But Liverpool also received £8.6m of European cash for the terminal, and Tory South East MEP Daniel Hannan said yesterday he is “hopeful” that this too will have to be paid back.

Speaking after a “very positive” meeting with the Competition Commissioner alongside North East MEP Martin Callanan, who has also campaigned for a level playing field on the use of subsidies, Mr Hannan said he believes it is right all grants are handed back.

He said: “There will then be a level playing field, and Liverpool will be free to run whatever services it wants.

“I wish Liverpool every success. The cruise business is growing fast, and there ought to be plenty of custom for everyone. But subsidies are never a secure basis for a business plan.”

Southampton City Council leader Cllr Richard Williams said he had written to the European Competition Commissioner, urging him to ensure that the rules are enforced.

He said: “No one minds fair competition but the situation we find ourselves in is one that is not a level playing field, and that’s all we are asking for.

“State aid should not be used to bias the market and we are working hard to get that resolved.

“I hope (the Commission) will enforce the unfair competition rules.”

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9:28am Thu 14 Jun 12

georgetheseventh says...

YES, and I am sure everyone here hope we pay it back too..if only to shut you gang of 'whinging' B**tards up.
YES, and I am sure everyone here hope we pay it back too..if only to shut you gang of 'whinging' B**tards up. georgetheseventh
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9:31am Thu 14 Jun 12

georgetheseventh says...

PS..and in future stop sabotaging vessels in your docks that are bound for a Lpool visit..this has occurred twice recently...its not good for business !!?
PS..and in future stop sabotaging vessels in your docks that are bound for a Lpool visit..this has occurred twice recently...its not good for business !!? georgetheseventh
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9:43am Thu 14 Jun 12

daveetwo says...

What proof have you got concerning this "sabotage" youve mentioned?
Care needs to be taken making statements like that. More and more companies are taking legal actions against unfounded and potentially damaging claims made on forums.
What proof have you got concerning this "sabotage" youve mentioned? Care needs to be taken making statements like that. More and more companies are taking legal actions against unfounded and potentially damaging claims made on forums. daveetwo
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9:45am Thu 14 Jun 12

SO50 Saint says...

Touch a nerve hey George?
Touch a nerve hey George? SO50 Saint
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10:13am Thu 14 Jun 12

Proud from LIVERPOOL says...

Many thanks once again to the Southern Daily Echo for publishing a very nice photograph of a cruise liner at the cruise terminal in Liverpool.
Many thanks once again to the Southern Daily Echo for publishing a very nice photograph of a cruise liner at the cruise terminal in Liverpool. Proud from LIVERPOOL
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10:14am Thu 14 Jun 12

flatulence hero says...

daveetwo wrote:
What proof have you got concerning this "sabotage" youve mentioned?
Care needs to be taken making statements like that. More and more companies are taking legal actions against unfounded and potentially damaging claims made on forums.
I do believe the said "sabotage" being referred to was the weather.

Act of god if one was to ask me.
Try taking legal action against "him".
[quote][p][bold]daveetwo[/bold] wrote: What proof have you got concerning this "sabotage" youve mentioned? Care needs to be taken making statements like that. More and more companies are taking legal actions against unfounded and potentially damaging claims made on forums.[/p][/quote]I do believe the said "sabotage" being referred to was the weather. Act of god if one was to ask me. Try taking legal action against "him". flatulence hero
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10:46am Thu 14 Jun 12

southy says...

flatulence hero wrote:
daveetwo wrote:
What proof have you got concerning this "sabotage" youve mentioned?
Care needs to be taken making statements like that. More and more companies are taking legal actions against unfounded and potentially damaging claims made on forums.
I do believe the said "sabotage" being referred to was the weather.

Act of god if one was to ask me.
Try taking legal action against "him".
Not weather, novo virus.
[quote][p][bold]flatulence hero[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]daveetwo[/bold] wrote: What proof have you got concerning this "sabotage" youve mentioned? Care needs to be taken making statements like that. More and more companies are taking legal actions against unfounded and potentially damaging claims made on forums.[/p][/quote]I do believe the said "sabotage" being referred to was the weather. Act of god if one was to ask me. Try taking legal action against "him".[/p][/quote]Not weather, novo virus. southy
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10:54am Thu 14 Jun 12

G0Rf says...

Proud from LIVERPOOL wrote:
Many thanks once again to the Southern Daily Echo for publishing a very nice photograph of a cruise liner at the cruise terminal in Liverpool.
you call that a cruise liner?
the red funnel ferry is bigger than that!
Come down here on 3rd July.
we will have
Adonia
Azura
Oceana
Ventura
Aurora
Arcadia
Oriana
in dock at the same time!
[quote][p][bold]Proud from LIVERPOOL[/bold] wrote: Many thanks once again to the Southern Daily Echo for publishing a very nice photograph of a cruise liner at the cruise terminal in Liverpool.[/p][/quote]you call that a cruise liner? the red funnel ferry is bigger than that! Come down here on 3rd July. we will have Adonia Azura Oceana Ventura Aurora Arcadia Oriana in dock at the same time! G0Rf
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10:56am Thu 14 Jun 12

southy says...

Heres a point, This only if they use that Jetty for the Turn around, not the rest of the Docks.
Plus Liverpool only got to sit and wait it out before the terms and conditions of that EU cash runs out before submitting any plans, all they need to do at this moment is do what they are doing forming ideas and plans ect, no plans have of yet been formally submitted yet.
Plus Liverpool would do better to leave it as a call in port, you get more of the Tourist money, than you would get as a turnaround port.
Heres a point, This only if they use that Jetty for the Turn around, not the rest of the Docks. Plus Liverpool only got to sit and wait it out before the terms and conditions of that EU cash runs out before submitting any plans, all they need to do at this moment is do what they are doing forming ideas and plans ect, no plans have of yet been formally submitted yet. Plus Liverpool would do better to leave it as a call in port, you get more of the Tourist money, than you would get as a turnaround port. southy
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11:17am Thu 14 Jun 12

flatulence hero says...

Apology, l was miss informed.
Caribbean Princess was the cruise ship l had in mind and it appears to have had quote "engineering fault on the ship while she was in Southampton, she was delayed leaving port which resulted in a reshuffle of the itinerary and Liverpool could not be incorporated.”

Princess cruises say.."
According to previous passenger surveys, Princess Cruises, owner of the 136,000 gross ton Caribbean Princess, has officially stated that Liverpool is its most popular UK port of call.

The city averages a satisfaction rating by cruise passengers of around 85% as a UK destination".

Not a word about Southampton!!

A kick up the Solent me thinks!!
Apology, l was miss informed. Caribbean Princess was the cruise ship l had in mind and it appears to have had quote "engineering fault on the ship while she was in Southampton, she was delayed leaving port which resulted in a reshuffle of the itinerary and Liverpool could not be incorporated.” Princess cruises say.." According to previous passenger surveys, Princess Cruises, owner of the 136,000 gross ton Caribbean Princess, has officially stated that Liverpool is its most popular UK port of call. The city averages a satisfaction rating by cruise passengers of around 85% as a UK destination". Not a word about Southampton!! A kick up the Solent me thinks!! flatulence hero
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11:28am Thu 14 Jun 12

southy says...

flatulence hero you get that in any call in port, call in ports is when the passengers really do spend there money and go for a walk abouts, they want to get of the ship and stretch their legs, where as a turnaround port passengers just want to get on the ship or just want to get home as quickly as posable
flatulence hero you get that in any call in port, call in ports is when the passengers really do spend there money and go for a walk abouts, they want to get of the ship and stretch their legs, where as a turnaround port passengers just want to get on the ship or just want to get home as quickly as posable southy
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11:37am Thu 14 Jun 12

Lone Ranger. says...

flatulence hero wrote:
Apology, l was miss informed.
Caribbean Princess was the cruise ship l had in mind and it appears to have had quote "engineering fault on the ship while she was in Southampton, she was delayed leaving port which resulted in a reshuffle of the itinerary and Liverpool could not be incorporated.”

Princess cruises say.."
According to previous passenger surveys, Princess Cruises, owner of the 136,000 gross ton Caribbean Princess, has officially stated that Liverpool is its most popular UK port of call.

The city averages a satisfaction rating by cruise passengers of around 85% as a UK destination".

Not a word about Southampton!!

A kick up the Solent me thinks!!
So mis-informed ....... Or not yet on Wiki ?
.
Seems strange that apart from one or two of your brothers there is nothing about this in todays Liverpool Echo or Liverpool Daily Post.
.
Does this mean that you are not actiually in Liverpool ........ But have a lovely residence in Southampton !
.
How odd that your council/papers have not yet informed their residents that they have to pay about £20m back before they start using the facility for start and finish
.
[quote][p][bold]flatulence hero[/bold] wrote: Apology, l was miss informed. Caribbean Princess was the cruise ship l had in mind and it appears to have had quote "engineering fault on the ship while she was in Southampton, she was delayed leaving port which resulted in a reshuffle of the itinerary and Liverpool could not be incorporated.” Princess cruises say.." According to previous passenger surveys, Princess Cruises, owner of the 136,000 gross ton Caribbean Princess, has officially stated that Liverpool is its most popular UK port of call. The city averages a satisfaction rating by cruise passengers of around 85% as a UK destination". Not a word about Southampton!! A kick up the Solent me thinks!![/p][/quote]So mis-informed ....... Or not yet on Wiki ? . Seems strange that apart from one or two of your brothers there is nothing about this in todays Liverpool Echo or Liverpool Daily Post. . Does this mean that you are not actiually in Liverpool ........ But have a lovely residence in Southampton ! . How odd that your council/papers have not yet informed their residents that they have to pay about £20m back before they start using the facility for start and finish . Lone Ranger.
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11:42am Thu 14 Jun 12

Proud from LIVERPOOL says...

flatulence hero wrote:
Apology, l was miss informed.
Caribbean Princess was the cruise ship l had in mind and it appears to have had quote "engineering fault on the ship while she was in Southampton, she was delayed leaving port which resulted in a reshuffle of the itinerary and Liverpool could not be incorporated.”

Princess cruises say.."
According to previous passenger surveys, Princess Cruises, owner of the 136,000 gross ton Caribbean Princess, has officially stated that Liverpool is its most popular UK port of call.

The city averages a satisfaction rating by cruise passengers of around 85% as a UK destination".

Not a word about Southampton!!

A kick up the Solent me thinks!!
flatulence hero wrote:-


....................
....................
........... Princess cruises say.." According to previous passenger surveys, Princess Cruises, owner of the 136,000 gross ton Caribbean Princess, has officially stated that Liverpool is its most popular UK port of call. The city averages a satisfaction rating by cruise passengers of around 85% as a UK destination". Not a word about Southampton!! A kick up the Solent me thinks!!

************

More proof that passengers and cruise companies all know that Liverpool is the favourite choice of port, to embark / disembark or visit as a port of call.
I am very confident that passengers starting / ending their cruise at Liverpool will probably spend at least 1 night in a hotel in our city as there is so much to see and do.
Most cruise ports are simply maritime bus stations for embarking / disembarking on a cruise, people never look around those places.
Liverpool however is a destination / tourist haven in its own right, not simply a place
to arrive at to pick up the cruise ship.
[quote][p][bold]flatulence hero[/bold] wrote: Apology, l was miss informed. Caribbean Princess was the cruise ship l had in mind and it appears to have had quote "engineering fault on the ship while she was in Southampton, she was delayed leaving port which resulted in a reshuffle of the itinerary and Liverpool could not be incorporated.” Princess cruises say.." According to previous passenger surveys, Princess Cruises, owner of the 136,000 gross ton Caribbean Princess, has officially stated that Liverpool is its most popular UK port of call. The city averages a satisfaction rating by cruise passengers of around 85% as a UK destination". Not a word about Southampton!! A kick up the Solent me thinks!![/p][/quote]flatulence hero wrote:- .................... .................... ........... Princess cruises say.." According to previous passenger surveys, Princess Cruises, owner of the 136,000 gross ton Caribbean Princess, has officially stated that Liverpool is its most popular UK port of call. The city averages a satisfaction rating by cruise passengers of around 85% as a UK destination". Not a word about Southampton!! A kick up the Solent me thinks!! ************ More proof that passengers and cruise companies all know that Liverpool is the favourite choice of port, to embark / disembark or visit as a port of call. I am very confident that passengers starting / ending their cruise at Liverpool will probably spend at least 1 night in a hotel in our city as there is so much to see and do. Most cruise ports are simply maritime bus stations for embarking / disembarking on a cruise, people never look around those places. Liverpool however is a destination / tourist haven in its own right, not simply a place to arrive at to pick up the cruise ship. Proud from LIVERPOOL
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11:56am Thu 14 Jun 12

flatulence hero says...

Lone Ranger. says... So mis-informed ....... Or not yet on Wiki ?
.
Seems strange that apart from one or two of your brothers there is nothing about this in todays Liverpool Echo or Liverpool Daily Post.
.
Does this mean that you are not actiually in Liverpool ........ But have a lovely residence in Southampton !

Sorry Lone Ranger l must have dreamed about this article.

http://www.liverpool
echo.co.uk/liverpool
-news/local-news/201
2/06/12/caribbean-pr
incess-missed-trip-t
o-liverpool-because-
of-technical-fault-1
00252-31162538/

It does say 14 June 2012.
mis-informed?
Lone Ranger. says... So mis-informed ....... Or not yet on Wiki ? . Seems strange that apart from one or two of your brothers there is nothing about this in todays Liverpool Echo or Liverpool Daily Post. . Does this mean that you are not actiually in Liverpool ........ But have a lovely residence in Southampton ! Sorry Lone Ranger l must have dreamed about this article. http://www.liverpool echo.co.uk/liverpool -news/local-news/201 2/06/12/caribbean-pr incess-missed-trip-t o-liverpool-because- of-technical-fault-1 00252-31162538/ It does say 14 June 2012. mis-informed? flatulence hero
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12:27pm Thu 14 Jun 12

loosehead says...

Proud from LIVERPOOL wrote:
flatulence hero wrote:
Apology, l was miss informed.
Caribbean Princess was the cruise ship l had in mind and it appears to have had quote "engineering fault on the ship while she was in Southampton, she was delayed leaving port which resulted in a reshuffle of the itinerary and Liverpool could not be incorporated.”

Princess cruises say.."
According to previous passenger surveys, Princess Cruises, owner of the 136,000 gross ton Caribbean Princess, has officially stated that Liverpool is its most popular UK port of call.

The city averages a satisfaction rating by cruise passengers of around 85% as a UK destination".

Not a word about Southampton!!

A kick up the Solent me thinks!!
flatulence hero wrote:-


....................

....................

........... Princess cruises say.." According to previous passenger surveys, Princess Cruises, owner of the 136,000 gross ton Caribbean Princess, has officially stated that Liverpool is its most popular UK port of call. The city averages a satisfaction rating by cruise passengers of around 85% as a UK destination". Not a word about Southampton!! A kick up the Solent me thinks!!

************

More proof that passengers and cruise companies all know that Liverpool is the favourite choice of port, to embark / disembark or visit as a port of call.
I am very confident that passengers starting / ending their cruise at Liverpool will probably spend at least 1 night in a hotel in our city as there is so much to see and do.
Most cruise ports are simply maritime bus stations for embarking / disembarking on a cruise, people never look around those places.
Liverpool however is a destination / tourist haven in its own right, not simply a place
to arrive at to pick up the cruise ship.
Are you actually reading it?
it says call in doesn't it?
doesn't that mean visiting ships which is supposedly what that pontoon/terminal was built for wasn't it?
In no way did the article say Turnaround Ports but call in means visiting so maybe you should stick with the agreed reason for this facility?
Southampton isn't a call in port so would/could not be judged by this article.,
When will you tell your residents they have to pay the EU grant back as well before using the facility?
[quote][p][bold]Proud from LIVERPOOL[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]flatulence hero[/bold] wrote: Apology, l was miss informed. Caribbean Princess was the cruise ship l had in mind and it appears to have had quote "engineering fault on the ship while she was in Southampton, she was delayed leaving port which resulted in a reshuffle of the itinerary and Liverpool could not be incorporated.” Princess cruises say.." According to previous passenger surveys, Princess Cruises, owner of the 136,000 gross ton Caribbean Princess, has officially stated that Liverpool is its most popular UK port of call. The city averages a satisfaction rating by cruise passengers of around 85% as a UK destination". Not a word about Southampton!! A kick up the Solent me thinks!![/p][/quote]flatulence hero wrote:- .................... .................... ........... Princess cruises say.." According to previous passenger surveys, Princess Cruises, owner of the 136,000 gross ton Caribbean Princess, has officially stated that Liverpool is its most popular UK port of call. The city averages a satisfaction rating by cruise passengers of around 85% as a UK destination". Not a word about Southampton!! A kick up the Solent me thinks!! ************ More proof that passengers and cruise companies all know that Liverpool is the favourite choice of port, to embark / disembark or visit as a port of call. I am very confident that passengers starting / ending their cruise at Liverpool will probably spend at least 1 night in a hotel in our city as there is so much to see and do. Most cruise ports are simply maritime bus stations for embarking / disembarking on a cruise, people never look around those places. Liverpool however is a destination / tourist haven in its own right, not simply a place to arrive at to pick up the cruise ship.[/p][/quote]Are you actually reading it? it says call in doesn't it? doesn't that mean visiting ships which is supposedly what that pontoon/terminal was built for wasn't it? In no way did the article say Turnaround Ports but call in means visiting so maybe you should stick with the agreed reason for this facility? Southampton isn't a call in port so would/could not be judged by this article., When will you tell your residents they have to pay the EU grant back as well before using the facility? loosehead
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12:32pm Thu 14 Jun 12

loosehead says...

flatulence hero wrote:
Apology, l was miss informed.
Caribbean Princess was the cruise ship l had in mind and it appears to have had quote "engineering fault on the ship while she was in Southampton, she was delayed leaving port which resulted in a reshuffle of the itinerary and Liverpool could not be incorporated.”

Princess cruises say.."
According to previous passenger surveys, Princess Cruises, owner of the 136,000 gross ton Caribbean Princess, has officially stated that Liverpool is its most popular UK port of call.

The city averages a satisfaction rating by cruise passengers of around 85% as a UK destination".

Not a word about Southampton!!

A kick up the Solent me thinks!!
Port of call? turnaround port? visiting port?
As we've been informed Langton is not up to being used where would these ships turnaround?
So unless you've broken the Law & used this facility then these were visiting ships/day calls only weren't they?
so exactly hows this a blow for the Solent?
Can't remember us being a call in port?
Maybe your thinking of Portsmouth?
[quote][p][bold]flatulence hero[/bold] wrote: Apology, l was miss informed. Caribbean Princess was the cruise ship l had in mind and it appears to have had quote "engineering fault on the ship while she was in Southampton, she was delayed leaving port which resulted in a reshuffle of the itinerary and Liverpool could not be incorporated.” Princess cruises say.." According to previous passenger surveys, Princess Cruises, owner of the 136,000 gross ton Caribbean Princess, has officially stated that Liverpool is its most popular UK port of call. The city averages a satisfaction rating by cruise passengers of around 85% as a UK destination". Not a word about Southampton!! A kick up the Solent me thinks!![/p][/quote]Port of call? turnaround port? visiting port? As we've been informed Langton is not up to being used where would these ships turnaround? So unless you've broken the Law & used this facility then these were visiting ships/day calls only weren't they? so exactly hows this a blow for the Solent? Can't remember us being a call in port? Maybe your thinking of Portsmouth? loosehead
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12:40pm Thu 14 Jun 12

ohec says...

So now that the s**t has hit the fan Liverpudlians are resorting to slander/insults and generally throwing their toys out of the pram in a very juvenile fashion. Southampton is not the only port objecting to the underhand tactics employed by Liverpool and i don't think people would have objected so much had it not been so blatantly obvious that it was always planned. That said lets hope Liverpool can repay all of the money and become fair competition to all British ports including Southampton.
So now that the s**t has hit the fan Liverpudlians are resorting to slander/insults and generally throwing their toys out of the pram in a very juvenile fashion. Southampton is not the only port objecting to the underhand tactics employed by Liverpool and i don't think people would have objected so much had it not been so blatantly obvious that it was always planned. That said lets hope Liverpool can repay all of the money and become fair competition to all British ports including Southampton. ohec
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12:43pm Thu 14 Jun 12

loosehead says...

ohec wrote:
So now that the s**t has hit the fan Liverpudlians are resorting to slander/insults and generally throwing their toys out of the pram in a very juvenile fashion. Southampton is not the only port objecting to the underhand tactics employed by Liverpool and i don't think people would have objected so much had it not been so blatantly obvious that it was always planned. That said lets hope Liverpool can repay all of the money and become fair competition to all British ports including Southampton.
Expect to be slated but your only saying the truth & for once I agree with you
[quote][p][bold]ohec[/bold] wrote: So now that the s**t has hit the fan Liverpudlians are resorting to slander/insults and generally throwing their toys out of the pram in a very juvenile fashion. Southampton is not the only port objecting to the underhand tactics employed by Liverpool and i don't think people would have objected so much had it not been so blatantly obvious that it was always planned. That said lets hope Liverpool can repay all of the money and become fair competition to all British ports including Southampton.[/p][/quote]Expect to be slated but your only saying the truth & for once I agree with you loosehead
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12:50pm Thu 14 Jun 12

Proud from LIVERPOOL says...

loosehead wrote:


............When will you tell your residents they have to pay the EU grant back as well before using the facility?

*******************

The answer is quite simple.


THE EU HAS NOT AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME MADE SUCH A CLAIM AGAINST LIVERPOOL. AS USUAL YOU JUMP THE GUN AND ASSUME THINGS THAT HAVEN'T HAPPENED YET.
WE WILL DEAL WITH THAT IF AND WHEN IT HAPPENS.
loosehead wrote: ............When will you tell your residents they have to pay the EU grant back as well before using the facility? ******************* The answer is quite simple. THE EU HAS NOT AT THIS MOMENT IN TIME MADE SUCH A CLAIM AGAINST LIVERPOOL. AS USUAL YOU JUMP THE GUN AND ASSUME THINGS THAT HAVEN'T HAPPENED YET. WE WILL DEAL WITH THAT IF AND WHEN IT HAPPENS. Proud from LIVERPOOL
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1:00pm Thu 14 Jun 12

apreston says...

Trust Southampton will now repay the money used to upgrade the rail link from the docks to Basingstoke to facilitate high cube containers so STC can gain more trade from other ports, then there will be a level playing field.
Trust Southampton will now repay the money used to upgrade the rail link from the docks to Basingstoke to facilitate high cube containers so STC can gain more trade from other ports, then there will be a level playing field. apreston
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1:13pm Thu 14 Jun 12

Proud from LIVERPOOL says...

Message to Loosehead

I have a son who is 32, he was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes 18months ago and thankfully he lives in Liverpool which is one of the best places in the country for ensuring treatment for this condition.

Instead of continually ranting on about Liverpool and the Cruise Terminal, why don't you launch a campaign to get better facilities for sufferers of diabetes in Southampton.

From todays Southern Daily Echo...........

Southampton is one of the worst places in the country for providing essential checks for diabetics, a report reveals.

Health bosses have come under fire after it was found that less than half of diabetics in the city are getting all of the nine recommended checks – the lowest rate among primary care trusts.

The latest figures from the National Diabetes Audit report on Care Processes and Treatment Targets 2010-2011 show that only 42 per cent of people in Southampton are receiving the vital checks which can prevent serious complications such as kidney failure and even amputation.

The checks are recommended by the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence to be given to Type 1 and Type 2 diabetics to pick up problems early and allow swift action.

More than 10,000 people have been diagnosed with diabetes in Southampton, with a further 2,700 believed to have undiagnosed Type 2 diabetes.

******************

If and when the EU demand anything from Liverpool, it will be dealt with at that time and not before.
Message to Loosehead I have a son who is 32, he was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes 18months ago and thankfully he lives in Liverpool which is one of the best places in the country for ensuring treatment for this condition. Instead of continually ranting on about Liverpool and the Cruise Terminal, why don't you launch a campaign to get better facilities for sufferers of diabetes in Southampton. From todays Southern Daily Echo........... Southampton is one of the worst places in the country for providing essential checks for diabetics, a report reveals. Health bosses have come under fire after it was found that less than half of diabetics in the city are getting all of the nine recommended checks – the lowest rate among primary care trusts. The latest figures from the National Diabetes Audit report on Care Processes and Treatment Targets 2010-2011 show that only 42 per cent of people in Southampton are receiving the vital checks which can prevent serious complications such as kidney failure and even amputation. The checks are recommended by the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence to be given to Type 1 and Type 2 diabetics to pick up problems early and allow swift action. More than 10,000 people have been diagnosed with diabetes in Southampton, with a further 2,700 believed to have undiagnosed Type 2 diabetes. ****************** If and when the EU demand anything from Liverpool, it will be dealt with at that time and not before. Proud from LIVERPOOL
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2:23pm Thu 14 Jun 12

Shoong says...

Proud from LIVERPOOL wrote:
Message to Loosehead

I have a son who is 32, he was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes 18months ago and thankfully he lives in Liverpool which is one of the best places in the country for ensuring treatment for this condition.

Instead of continually ranting on about Liverpool and the Cruise Terminal, why don't you launch a campaign to get better facilities for sufferers of diabetes in Southampton.

From todays Southern Daily Echo...........

Southampton is one of the worst places in the country for providing essential checks for diabetics, a report reveals.

Health bosses have come under fire after it was found that less than half of diabetics in the city are getting all of the nine recommended checks – the lowest rate among primary care trusts.

The latest figures from the National Diabetes Audit report on Care Processes and Treatment Targets 2010-2011 show that only 42 per cent of people in Southampton are receiving the vital checks which can prevent serious complications such as kidney failure and even amputation.

The checks are recommended by the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence to be given to Type 1 and Type 2 diabetics to pick up problems early and allow swift action.

More than 10,000 people have been diagnosed with diabetes in Southampton, with a further 2,700 believed to have undiagnosed Type 2 diabetes.

******************

If and when the EU demand anything from Liverpool, it will be dealt with at that time and not before.
Well done.

You've just confirmed for that 99% of all Scousers are nasty, thick little spiteful to55ers.

Go and get a job.
[quote][p][bold]Proud from LIVERPOOL[/bold] wrote: Message to Loosehead I have a son who is 32, he was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes 18months ago and thankfully he lives in Liverpool which is one of the best places in the country for ensuring treatment for this condition. Instead of continually ranting on about Liverpool and the Cruise Terminal, why don't you launch a campaign to get better facilities for sufferers of diabetes in Southampton. From todays Southern Daily Echo........... Southampton is one of the worst places in the country for providing essential checks for diabetics, a report reveals. Health bosses have come under fire after it was found that less than half of diabetics in the city are getting all of the nine recommended checks – the lowest rate among primary care trusts. The latest figures from the National Diabetes Audit report on Care Processes and Treatment Targets 2010-2011 show that only 42 per cent of people in Southampton are receiving the vital checks which can prevent serious complications such as kidney failure and even amputation. The checks are recommended by the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence to be given to Type 1 and Type 2 diabetics to pick up problems early and allow swift action. More than 10,000 people have been diagnosed with diabetes in Southampton, with a further 2,700 believed to have undiagnosed Type 2 diabetes. ****************** If and when the EU demand anything from Liverpool, it will be dealt with at that time and not before.[/p][/quote]Well done. You've just confirmed for that 99% of all Scousers are nasty, thick little spiteful to55ers. Go and get a job. Shoong
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2:37pm Thu 14 Jun 12

SO50 Saint says...

And the 1% is Rickie Lambert and his family :)
And the 1% is Rickie Lambert and his family :) SO50 Saint
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3:22pm Thu 14 Jun 12

Proud from LIVERPOOL says...

Shoong wrote:
Proud from LIVERPOOL wrote:
Message to Loosehead

I have a son who is 32, he was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes 18months ago and thankfully he lives in Liverpool which is one of the best places in the country for ensuring treatment for this condition.

Instead of continually ranting on about Liverpool and the Cruise Terminal, why don't you launch a campaign to get better facilities for sufferers of diabetes in Southampton.

From todays Southern Daily Echo...........

Southampton is one of the worst places in the country for providing essential checks for diabetics, a report reveals.

Health bosses have come under fire after it was found that less than half of diabetics in the city are getting all of the nine recommended checks – the lowest rate among primary care trusts.

The latest figures from the National Diabetes Audit report on Care Processes and Treatment Targets 2010-2011 show that only 42 per cent of people in Southampton are receiving the vital checks which can prevent serious complications such as kidney failure and even amputation.

The checks are recommended by the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence to be given to Type 1 and Type 2 diabetics to pick up problems early and allow swift action.

More than 10,000 people have been diagnosed with diabetes in Southampton, with a further 2,700 believed to have undiagnosed Type 2 diabetes.

******************

If and when the EU demand anything from Liverpool, it will be dealt with at that time and not before.
Well done.

You've just confirmed for that 99% of all Scousers are nasty, thick little spiteful to55ers.

Go and get a job.
Shoong wrote:
....................
....................
....................
.........Well done. You've just confirmed for that 99% of all Scousers are nasty, thick little spiteful to55ers. Go and get a job.

*************

There is no need to talk like that, to me or anybody else.

**************

I am not spiteful, I don't assume anything until it is official.
All I have confirmed is that I think there are far more important matters for Loosehead and others to argue about in this world.

Until the EU decides to claim or not claim back money from Liverpool, a decision which I tried to explain, has not officially been made yet. It is nonsense to pre-empt the
outcome.

Incidentally I do have a job , I'm self employed and I work very hard, do you ?
[quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Proud from LIVERPOOL[/bold] wrote: Message to Loosehead I have a son who is 32, he was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes 18months ago and thankfully he lives in Liverpool which is one of the best places in the country for ensuring treatment for this condition. Instead of continually ranting on about Liverpool and the Cruise Terminal, why don't you launch a campaign to get better facilities for sufferers of diabetes in Southampton. From todays Southern Daily Echo........... Southampton is one of the worst places in the country for providing essential checks for diabetics, a report reveals. Health bosses have come under fire after it was found that less than half of diabetics in the city are getting all of the nine recommended checks – the lowest rate among primary care trusts. The latest figures from the National Diabetes Audit report on Care Processes and Treatment Targets 2010-2011 show that only 42 per cent of people in Southampton are receiving the vital checks which can prevent serious complications such as kidney failure and even amputation. The checks are recommended by the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence to be given to Type 1 and Type 2 diabetics to pick up problems early and allow swift action. More than 10,000 people have been diagnosed with diabetes in Southampton, with a further 2,700 believed to have undiagnosed Type 2 diabetes. ****************** If and when the EU demand anything from Liverpool, it will be dealt with at that time and not before.[/p][/quote]Well done. You've just confirmed for that 99% of all Scousers are nasty, thick little spiteful to55ers. Go and get a job.[/p][/quote]Shoong wrote: .................... .................... .................... .........Well done. You've just confirmed for that 99% of all Scousers are nasty, thick little spiteful to55ers. Go and get a job. ************* There is no need to talk like that, to me or anybody else. ************** I am not spiteful, I don't assume anything until it is official. All I have confirmed is that I think there are far more important matters for Loosehead and others to argue about in this world. Until the EU decides to claim or not claim back money from Liverpool, a decision which I tried to explain, has not officially been made yet. It is nonsense to pre-empt the outcome. Incidentally I do have a job , I'm self employed and I work very hard, do you ? Proud from LIVERPOOL
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3:28pm Thu 14 Jun 12

arizonan says...

European funding not subject to restriction to trade.
This was a UK restriction.
European funding not subject to restriction to trade. This was a UK restriction. arizonan
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3:36pm Thu 14 Jun 12

loosehead says...

Proud from LIVERPOOL wrote:
Message to Loosehead

I have a son who is 32, he was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes 18months ago and thankfully he lives in Liverpool which is one of the best places in the country for ensuring treatment for this condition.

Instead of continually ranting on about Liverpool and the Cruise Terminal, why don't you launch a campaign to get better facilities for sufferers of diabetes in Southampton.

From todays Southern Daily Echo...........

Southampton is one of the worst places in the country for providing essential checks for diabetics, a report reveals.

Health bosses have come under fire after it was found that less than half of diabetics in the city are getting all of the nine recommended checks – the lowest rate among primary care trusts.

The latest figures from the National Diabetes Audit report on Care Processes and Treatment Targets 2010-2011 show that only 42 per cent of people in Southampton are receiving the vital checks which can prevent serious complications such as kidney failure and even amputation.

The checks are recommended by the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence to be given to Type 1 and Type 2 diabetics to pick up problems early and allow swift action.

More than 10,000 people have been diagnosed with diabetes in Southampton, with a further 2,700 believed to have undiagnosed Type 2 diabetes.

******************

If and when the EU demand anything from Liverpool, it will be dealt with at that time and not before.
Exactly what the hell has this to do with your lies to get those grants?
[quote][p][bold]Proud from LIVERPOOL[/bold] wrote: Message to Loosehead I have a son who is 32, he was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes 18months ago and thankfully he lives in Liverpool which is one of the best places in the country for ensuring treatment for this condition. Instead of continually ranting on about Liverpool and the Cruise Terminal, why don't you launch a campaign to get better facilities for sufferers of diabetes in Southampton. From todays Southern Daily Echo........... Southampton is one of the worst places in the country for providing essential checks for diabetics, a report reveals. Health bosses have come under fire after it was found that less than half of diabetics in the city are getting all of the nine recommended checks – the lowest rate among primary care trusts. The latest figures from the National Diabetes Audit report on Care Processes and Treatment Targets 2010-2011 show that only 42 per cent of people in Southampton are receiving the vital checks which can prevent serious complications such as kidney failure and even amputation. The checks are recommended by the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence to be given to Type 1 and Type 2 diabetics to pick up problems early and allow swift action. More than 10,000 people have been diagnosed with diabetes in Southampton, with a further 2,700 believed to have undiagnosed Type 2 diabetes. ****************** If and when the EU demand anything from Liverpool, it will be dealt with at that time and not before.[/p][/quote]Exactly what the hell has this to do with your lies to get those grants? loosehead
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4:03pm Thu 14 Jun 12

Shoong says...

Proud from LIVERPOOL wrote:
Shoong wrote:
Proud from LIVERPOOL wrote:
Message to Loosehead

I have a son who is 32, he was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes 18months ago and thankfully he lives in Liverpool which is one of the best places in the country for ensuring treatment for this condition.

Instead of continually ranting on about Liverpool and the Cruise Terminal, why don't you launch a campaign to get better facilities for sufferers of diabetes in Southampton.

From todays Southern Daily Echo...........

Southampton is one of the worst places in the country for providing essential checks for diabetics, a report reveals.

Health bosses have come under fire after it was found that less than half of diabetics in the city are getting all of the nine recommended checks – the lowest rate among primary care trusts.

The latest figures from the National Diabetes Audit report on Care Processes and Treatment Targets 2010-2011 show that only 42 per cent of people in Southampton are receiving the vital checks which can prevent serious complications such as kidney failure and even amputation.

The checks are recommended by the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence to be given to Type 1 and Type 2 diabetics to pick up problems early and allow swift action.

More than 10,000 people have been diagnosed with diabetes in Southampton, with a further 2,700 believed to have undiagnosed Type 2 diabetes.

******************

If and when the EU demand anything from Liverpool, it will be dealt with at that time and not before.
Well done.

You've just confirmed for that 99% of all Scousers are nasty, thick little spiteful to55ers.

Go and get a job.
Shoong wrote:
....................

....................

....................

.........Well done. You've just confirmed for that 99% of all Scousers are nasty, thick little spiteful to55ers. Go and get a job.

*************

There is no need to talk like that, to me or anybody else.

**************

I am not spiteful, I don't assume anything until it is official.
All I have confirmed is that I think there are far more important matters for Loosehead and others to argue about in this world.

Until the EU decides to claim or not claim back money from Liverpool, a decision which I tried to explain, has not officially been made yet. It is nonsense to pre-empt the
outcome.

Incidentally I do have a job , I'm self employed and I work very hard, do you ?
Don't believe you.

Do one.

'sign on, sign on, with a pen in your hand, and you'll never get-a-job.

You'll never-get-a-job'

(repeat)
[quote][p][bold]Proud from LIVERPOOL[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Proud from LIVERPOOL[/bold] wrote: Message to Loosehead I have a son who is 32, he was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes 18months ago and thankfully he lives in Liverpool which is one of the best places in the country for ensuring treatment for this condition. Instead of continually ranting on about Liverpool and the Cruise Terminal, why don't you launch a campaign to get better facilities for sufferers of diabetes in Southampton. From todays Southern Daily Echo........... Southampton is one of the worst places in the country for providing essential checks for diabetics, a report reveals. Health bosses have come under fire after it was found that less than half of diabetics in the city are getting all of the nine recommended checks – the lowest rate among primary care trusts. The latest figures from the National Diabetes Audit report on Care Processes and Treatment Targets 2010-2011 show that only 42 per cent of people in Southampton are receiving the vital checks which can prevent serious complications such as kidney failure and even amputation. The checks are recommended by the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence to be given to Type 1 and Type 2 diabetics to pick up problems early and allow swift action. More than 10,000 people have been diagnosed with diabetes in Southampton, with a further 2,700 believed to have undiagnosed Type 2 diabetes. ****************** If and when the EU demand anything from Liverpool, it will be dealt with at that time and not before.[/p][/quote]Well done. You've just confirmed for that 99% of all Scousers are nasty, thick little spiteful to55ers. Go and get a job.[/p][/quote]Shoong wrote: .................... .................... .................... .........Well done. You've just confirmed for that 99% of all Scousers are nasty, thick little spiteful to55ers. Go and get a job. ************* There is no need to talk like that, to me or anybody else. ************** I am not spiteful, I don't assume anything until it is official. All I have confirmed is that I think there are far more important matters for Loosehead and others to argue about in this world. Until the EU decides to claim or not claim back money from Liverpool, a decision which I tried to explain, has not officially been made yet. It is nonsense to pre-empt the outcome. Incidentally I do have a job , I'm self employed and I work very hard, do you ?[/p][/quote]Don't believe you. Do one. 'sign on, sign on, with a pen in your hand, and you'll never get-a-job. You'll never-get-a-job' (repeat) Shoong
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4:35pm Thu 14 Jun 12

Proud from LIVERPOOL says...

Shoong wrote:
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.........Well done. You've just confirmed for that 99% of all Scousers are nasty, thick little spiteful to55ers. Go and get a job.

*****************

Incidentally I do have a job , I'm self employed and I work very hard, do you ?

*****************

Shoong wrote:
....................

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Don't believe you.

Do one.

'sign on, sign on, with a pen in your hand, and you'll never get-a-job.

You'll never-get-a-job'

(repeat)

***************


You are probably the nastiest individual I have ever encountered on this site.

I am confident that the decent people of Southampton would want to dis-associate themselves from the likes of you.

Coming out with the remarks that you do, only highlights how childish and purile you truly are.

I bet your really proud of yourself aren't you.
Do your parents know you've
got out of the nursery yet.
Shoong wrote: .................... .................... .................... .........Well done. You've just confirmed for that 99% of all Scousers are nasty, thick little spiteful to55ers. Go and get a job. ***************** Incidentally I do have a job , I'm self employed and I work very hard, do you ? ***************** Shoong wrote: .................... .................... .................... Don't believe you. Do one. 'sign on, sign on, with a pen in your hand, and you'll never get-a-job. You'll never-get-a-job' (repeat) *************** You are probably the nastiest individual I have ever encountered on this site. I am confident that the decent people of Southampton would want to dis-associate themselves from the likes of you. Coming out with the remarks that you do, only highlights how childish and purile you truly are. I bet your really proud of yourself aren't you. Do your parents know you've got out of the nursery yet. Proud from LIVERPOOL
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5:36pm Thu 14 Jun 12

arizonan says...

Just thought what an odd couple Hannan and Callahan must appear to EU officials.
Here they are, with UKplc having a net input to the EU, arguing for the repayment of an EU grant made to a UK port, Liverpool.
Can you imagine two French MEP's haranging the EU for the repayment of a grant made to say, Le Havre?.
No you can't, because it would not happen in France, or any of the other EU members, bar one.
Just thought what an odd couple Hannan and Callahan must appear to EU officials. Here they are, with UKplc having a net input to the EU, arguing for the repayment of an EU grant made to a UK port, Liverpool. Can you imagine two French MEP's haranging the EU for the repayment of a grant made to say, Le Havre?. No you can't, because it would not happen in France, or any of the other EU members, bar one. arizonan
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5:50pm Thu 14 Jun 12

ronn12 says...

Shoong wrote:
Proud from LIVERPOOL wrote:
Shoong wrote:
Proud from LIVERPOOL wrote:
Message to Loosehead

I have a son who is 32, he was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes 18months ago and thankfully he lives in Liverpool which is one of the best places in the country for ensuring treatment for this condition.

Instead of continually ranting on about Liverpool and the Cruise Terminal, why don't you launch a campaign to get better facilities for sufferers of diabetes in Southampton.

From todays Southern Daily Echo...........

Southampton is one of the worst places in the country for providing essential checks for diabetics, a report reveals.

Health bosses have come under fire after it was found that less than half of diabetics in the city are getting all of the nine recommended checks – the lowest rate among primary care trusts.

The latest figures from the National Diabetes Audit report on Care Processes and Treatment Targets 2010-2011 show that only 42 per cent of people in Southampton are receiving the vital checks which can prevent serious complications such as kidney failure and even amputation.

The checks are recommended by the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence to be given to Type 1 and Type 2 diabetics to pick up problems early and allow swift action.

More than 10,000 people have been diagnosed with diabetes in Southampton, with a further 2,700 believed to have undiagnosed Type 2 diabetes.

******************

If and when the EU demand anything from Liverpool, it will be dealt with at that time and not before.
Well done.

You've just confirmed for that 99% of all Scousers are nasty, thick little spiteful to55ers.

Go and get a job.
Shoong wrote:
....................


....................


....................


.........Well done. You've just confirmed for that 99% of all Scousers are nasty, thick little spiteful to55ers. Go and get a job.

*************

There is no need to talk like that, to me or anybody else.

**************

I am not spiteful, I don't assume anything until it is official.
All I have confirmed is that I think there are far more important matters for Loosehead and others to argue about in this world.

Until the EU decides to claim or not claim back money from Liverpool, a decision which I tried to explain, has not officially been made yet. It is nonsense to pre-empt the
outcome.

Incidentally I do have a job , I'm self employed and I work very hard, do you ?
Don't believe you.

Do one.

'sign on, sign on, with a pen in your hand, and you'll never get-a-job.

You'll never-get-a-job'

(repeat)
You are one sad person do you know that !!!!! You have the IQ of a peanut ... Lol I live in Liverpool and work , did you watch the news tonight ,and again Liverpool is on it ,more jobs created . Businesses see liverpool a place to invest and that's what's happening here , land rover . Astra . Cammil lairds , the new largest trade centre in Europe to be built , Liverpool and Wirral waters . Harvey Nichols , Liverpool one , central village , more hotels one one street than in the whole if Southampton , cruise terminal plan to be the best facility in uk. I could go on the list is endless and who works in these businesses the local people . That's why we get Investerment ?? Private ...
[quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Proud from LIVERPOOL[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Proud from LIVERPOOL[/bold] wrote: Message to Loosehead I have a son who is 32, he was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes 18months ago and thankfully he lives in Liverpool which is one of the best places in the country for ensuring treatment for this condition. Instead of continually ranting on about Liverpool and the Cruise Terminal, why don't you launch a campaign to get better facilities for sufferers of diabetes in Southampton. From todays Southern Daily Echo........... Southampton is one of the worst places in the country for providing essential checks for diabetics, a report reveals. Health bosses have come under fire after it was found that less than half of diabetics in the city are getting all of the nine recommended checks – the lowest rate among primary care trusts. The latest figures from the National Diabetes Audit report on Care Processes and Treatment Targets 2010-2011 show that only 42 per cent of people in Southampton are receiving the vital checks which can prevent serious complications such as kidney failure and even amputation. The checks are recommended by the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence to be given to Type 1 and Type 2 diabetics to pick up problems early and allow swift action. More than 10,000 people have been diagnosed with diabetes in Southampton, with a further 2,700 believed to have undiagnosed Type 2 diabetes. ****************** If and when the EU demand anything from Liverpool, it will be dealt with at that time and not before.[/p][/quote]Well done. You've just confirmed for that 99% of all Scousers are nasty, thick little spiteful to55ers. Go and get a job.[/p][/quote]Shoong wrote: .................... .................... .................... .........Well done. You've just confirmed for that 99% of all Scousers are nasty, thick little spiteful to55ers. Go and get a job. ************* There is no need to talk like that, to me or anybody else. ************** I am not spiteful, I don't assume anything until it is official. All I have confirmed is that I think there are far more important matters for Loosehead and others to argue about in this world. Until the EU decides to claim or not claim back money from Liverpool, a decision which I tried to explain, has not officially been made yet. It is nonsense to pre-empt the outcome. Incidentally I do have a job , I'm self employed and I work very hard, do you ?[/p][/quote]Don't believe you. Do one. 'sign on, sign on, with a pen in your hand, and you'll never get-a-job. You'll never-get-a-job' (repeat)[/p][/quote]You are one sad person do you know that !!!!! You have the IQ of a peanut ... Lol I live in Liverpool and work , did you watch the news tonight ,and again Liverpool is on it ,more jobs created . Businesses see liverpool a place to invest and that's what's happening here , land rover . Astra . Cammil lairds , the new largest trade centre in Europe to be built , Liverpool and Wirral waters . Harvey Nichols , Liverpool one , central village , more hotels one one street than in the whole if Southampton , cruise terminal plan to be the best facility in uk. I could go on the list is endless and who works in these businesses the local people . That's why we get Investerment ?? Private ... ronn12
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5:56pm Thu 14 Jun 12

ronn12 says...

arizonan wrote:
Just thought what an odd couple Hannan and Callahan must appear to EU officials.
Here they are, with UKplc having a net input to the EU, arguing for the repayment of an EU grant made to a UK port, Liverpool.
Can you imagine two French MEP's haranging the EU for the repayment of a grant made to say, Le Havre?.
No you can't, because it would not happen in France, or any of the other EU members, bar one.
I totally agree , it's one sad joke they must look pathetic, I hope they get told to stand in the corner facing the wall.
Act like children , get treated like children... Lol
[quote][p][bold]arizonan[/bold] wrote: Just thought what an odd couple Hannan and Callahan must appear to EU officials. Here they are, with UKplc having a net input to the EU, arguing for the repayment of an EU grant made to a UK port, Liverpool. Can you imagine two French MEP's haranging the EU for the repayment of a grant made to say, Le Havre?. No you can't, because it would not happen in France, or any of the other EU members, bar one.[/p][/quote]I totally agree , it's one sad joke they must look pathetic, I hope they get told to stand in the corner facing the wall. Act like children , get treated like children... Lol ronn12
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7:58pm Thu 14 Jun 12

Fatty x Ford Worker says...

Shoong wrote:
Proud from LIVERPOOL wrote:
Message to Loosehead

I have a son who is 32, he was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes 18months ago and thankfully he lives in Liverpool which is one of the best places in the country for ensuring treatment for this condition.

Instead of continually ranting on about Liverpool and the Cruise Terminal, why don't you launch a campaign to get better facilities for sufferers of diabetes in Southampton.

From todays Southern Daily Echo...........

Southampton is one of the worst places in the country for providing essential checks for diabetics, a report reveals.

Health bosses have come under fire after it was found that less than half of diabetics in the city are getting all of the nine recommended checks – the lowest rate among primary care trusts.

The latest figures from the National Diabetes Audit report on Care Processes and Treatment Targets 2010-2011 show that only 42 per cent of people in Southampton are receiving the vital checks which can prevent serious complications such as kidney failure and even amputation.

The checks are recommended by the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence to be given to Type 1 and Type 2 diabetics to pick up problems early and allow swift action.

More than 10,000 people have been diagnosed with diabetes in Southampton, with a further 2,700 believed to have undiagnosed Type 2 diabetes.

******************

If and when the EU demand anything from Liverpool, it will be dealt with at that time and not before.
Well done.

You've just confirmed for that 99% of all Scousers are nasty, thick little spiteful to55ers.

Go and get a job.
Giive us a job I can do that!
[quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Proud from LIVERPOOL[/bold] wrote: Message to Loosehead I have a son who is 32, he was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes 18months ago and thankfully he lives in Liverpool which is one of the best places in the country for ensuring treatment for this condition. Instead of continually ranting on about Liverpool and the Cruise Terminal, why don't you launch a campaign to get better facilities for sufferers of diabetes in Southampton. From todays Southern Daily Echo........... Southampton is one of the worst places in the country for providing essential checks for diabetics, a report reveals. Health bosses have come under fire after it was found that less than half of diabetics in the city are getting all of the nine recommended checks – the lowest rate among primary care trusts. The latest figures from the National Diabetes Audit report on Care Processes and Treatment Targets 2010-2011 show that only 42 per cent of people in Southampton are receiving the vital checks which can prevent serious complications such as kidney failure and even amputation. The checks are recommended by the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence to be given to Type 1 and Type 2 diabetics to pick up problems early and allow swift action. More than 10,000 people have been diagnosed with diabetes in Southampton, with a further 2,700 believed to have undiagnosed Type 2 diabetes. ****************** If and when the EU demand anything from Liverpool, it will be dealt with at that time and not before.[/p][/quote]Well done. You've just confirmed for that 99% of all Scousers are nasty, thick little spiteful to55ers. Go and get a job.[/p][/quote]Giive us a job I can do that! Fatty x Ford Worker
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9:17pm Thu 14 Jun 12

loosehead says...

ronn12 wrote:
arizonan wrote:
Just thought what an odd couple Hannan and Callahan must appear to EU officials.
Here they are, with UKplc having a net input to the EU, arguing for the repayment of an EU grant made to a UK port, Liverpool.
Can you imagine two French MEP's haranging the EU for the repayment of a grant made to say, Le Havre?.
No you can't, because it would not happen in France, or any of the other EU members, bar one.
I totally agree , it's one sad joke they must look pathetic, I hope they get told to stand in the corner facing the wall.
Act like children , get treated like children... Lol
So 500 jobs lost around the country with the bulk in Wales but Liverpools okay they're taking on 150 so were alright mate who cares about the rest of the UK?
The other news we saw was for Meridian TV being refused an interview with Jo Anderson ( your council leader?) & having to track him down to talk about the EU wanting it's money back.
He said very little & looked like a trapped Rabbit.
[quote][p][bold]ronn12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]arizonan[/bold] wrote: Just thought what an odd couple Hannan and Callahan must appear to EU officials. Here they are, with UKplc having a net input to the EU, arguing for the repayment of an EU grant made to a UK port, Liverpool. Can you imagine two French MEP's haranging the EU for the repayment of a grant made to say, Le Havre?. No you can't, because it would not happen in France, or any of the other EU members, bar one.[/p][/quote]I totally agree , it's one sad joke they must look pathetic, I hope they get told to stand in the corner facing the wall. Act like children , get treated like children... Lol[/p][/quote]So 500 jobs lost around the country with the bulk in Wales but Liverpools okay they're taking on 150 so were alright mate who cares about the rest of the UK? The other news we saw was for Meridian TV being refused an interview with Jo Anderson ( your council leader?) & having to track him down to talk about the EU wanting it's money back. He said very little & looked like a trapped Rabbit. loosehead
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10:29pm Thu 14 Jun 12

arizonan says...

loosehead, Liverpool has lost hundreds of jobs in the past to other parts of the country, especially in the South, so this is different to the normal turn of events.
When did the EU announce that Liverpool had to re-pay the EU Grant?Did I miss something?
Meridian TV must have plenty of dosh to send a TV crew to Liverpool on a fishing trip.
I thought ITV was skint.
loosehead, Liverpool has lost hundreds of jobs in the past to other parts of the country, especially in the South, so this is different to the normal turn of events. When did the EU announce that Liverpool had to re-pay the EU Grant?Did I miss something? Meridian TV must have plenty of dosh to send a TV crew to Liverpool on a fishing trip. I thought ITV was skint. arizonan
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11:05pm Thu 14 Jun 12

Proud from LIVERPOOL says...

loosehead wrote:
ronn12 wrote:
arizonan wrote:
Just thought what an odd couple Hannan and Callahan must appear to EU officials.
Here they are, with UKplc having a net input to the EU, arguing for the repayment of an EU grant made to a UK port, Liverpool.
Can you imagine two French MEP's haranging the EU for the repayment of a grant made to say, Le Havre?.
No you can't, because it would not happen in France, or any of the other EU members, bar one.
I totally agree , it's one sad joke they must look pathetic, I hope they get told to stand in the corner facing the wall.
Act like children , get treated like children... Lol
So 500 jobs lost around the country with the bulk in Wales but Liverpools okay they're taking on 150 so were alright mate who cares about the rest of the UK?
The other news we saw was for Meridian TV being refused an interview with Jo Anderson ( your council leader?) & having to track him down to talk about the EU wanting it's money back.
He said very little & looked like a trapped Rabbit.
For the benefit of Loosehead and other whingers.

Liverpool has lost a lot of jobs in the past. Part of the site which is currently being re-developed as the International Trade Centre was occupied by Mobil Oils specialist blending plant which had been in Birkenhead over 50 years. This plant closed down and a large number of local people lost their jobs, not because they were no good at their jobs as you would like to believe ( because we live up north ) but for the following simple reason. Exxon took over Mobil Oil and because Exxon already had a similar plant down south , they rationalised and closed Mobil Birkenhead down about 8 - 10 years ago.
They just walked away leaving the mini refinery and storage tanks to rot ( typical of multi-national companies ) , leaving a desolate wasteland.

I believe that they lease the site on a 99year lease, with the condition that when they left they had to clear the site as it was when they first took it. It must have been quite a shock for them when they found out, but the site is now being cleaned up.

I would never joke about anybody losing their job ( I'm a little bit more adult than that ). I feel sorry for those people affected by Unilevers plans but it happens everywhere, no one is safe, especially if they are employed by a multi-national company that can divert production to the other side of the world without a bye or leave.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ronn12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]arizonan[/bold] wrote: Just thought what an odd couple Hannan and Callahan must appear to EU officials. Here they are, with UKplc having a net input to the EU, arguing for the repayment of an EU grant made to a UK port, Liverpool. Can you imagine two French MEP's haranging the EU for the repayment of a grant made to say, Le Havre?. No you can't, because it would not happen in France, or any of the other EU members, bar one.[/p][/quote]I totally agree , it's one sad joke they must look pathetic, I hope they get told to stand in the corner facing the wall. Act like children , get treated like children... Lol[/p][/quote]So 500 jobs lost around the country with the bulk in Wales but Liverpools okay they're taking on 150 so were alright mate who cares about the rest of the UK? The other news we saw was for Meridian TV being refused an interview with Jo Anderson ( your council leader?) & having to track him down to talk about the EU wanting it's money back. He said very little & looked like a trapped Rabbit.[/p][/quote]For the benefit of Loosehead and other whingers. Liverpool has lost a lot of jobs in the past. Part of the site which is currently being re-developed as the International Trade Centre was occupied by Mobil Oils specialist blending plant which had been in Birkenhead over 50 years. This plant closed down and a large number of local people lost their jobs, not because they were no good at their jobs as you would like to believe ( because we live up north ) but for the following simple reason. Exxon took over Mobil Oil and because Exxon already had a similar plant down south , they rationalised and closed Mobil Birkenhead down about 8 - 10 years ago. They just walked away leaving the mini refinery and storage tanks to rot ( typical of multi-national companies ) , leaving a desolate wasteland. I believe that they lease the site on a 99year lease, with the condition that when they left they had to clear the site as it was when they first took it. It must have been quite a shock for them when they found out, but the site is now being cleaned up. I would never joke about anybody losing their job ( I'm a little bit more adult than that ). I feel sorry for those people affected by Unilevers plans but it happens everywhere, no one is safe, especially if they are employed by a multi-national company that can divert production to the other side of the world without a bye or leave. Proud from LIVERPOOL
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1:47am Fri 15 Jun 12

Poppy22 says...

Great news. Hard to believe, though, as I didn't think the European court knew what common sense is, yet alone how to apply it!
Another option would be to just pay Southampton the same amount that Liverpool's received ....
Great news. Hard to believe, though, as I didn't think the European court knew what common sense is, yet alone how to apply it! Another option would be to just pay Southampton the same amount that Liverpool's received .... Poppy22
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9:24am Fri 15 Jun 12

loosehead says...

Proud from LIVERPOOL wrote:
loosehead wrote:
ronn12 wrote:
arizonan wrote:
Just thought what an odd couple Hannan and Callahan must appear to EU officials.
Here they are, with UKplc having a net input to the EU, arguing for the repayment of an EU grant made to a UK port, Liverpool.
Can you imagine two French MEP's haranging the EU for the repayment of a grant made to say, Le Havre?.
No you can't, because it would not happen in France, or any of the other EU members, bar one.
I totally agree , it's one sad joke they must look pathetic, I hope they get told to stand in the corner facing the wall.
Act like children , get treated like children... Lol
So 500 jobs lost around the country with the bulk in Wales but Liverpools okay they're taking on 150 so were alright mate who cares about the rest of the UK?
The other news we saw was for Meridian TV being refused an interview with Jo Anderson ( your council leader?) & having to track him down to talk about the EU wanting it's money back.
He said very little & looked like a trapped Rabbit.
For the benefit of Loosehead and other whingers.

Liverpool has lost a lot of jobs in the past. Part of the site which is currently being re-developed as the International Trade Centre was occupied by Mobil Oils specialist blending plant which had been in Birkenhead over 50 years. This plant closed down and a large number of local people lost their jobs, not because they were no good at their jobs as you would like to believe ( because we live up north ) but for the following simple reason. Exxon took over Mobil Oil and because Exxon already had a similar plant down south , they rationalised and closed Mobil Birkenhead down about 8 - 10 years ago.
They just walked away leaving the mini refinery and storage tanks to rot ( typical of multi-national companies ) , leaving a desolate wasteland.

I believe that they lease the site on a 99year lease, with the condition that when they left they had to clear the site as it was when they first took it. It must have been quite a shock for them when they found out, but the site is now being cleaned up.

I would never joke about anybody losing their job ( I'm a little bit more adult than that ). I feel sorry for those people affected by Unilevers plans but it happens everywhere, no one is safe, especially if they are employed by a multi-national company that can divert production to the other side of the world without a bye or leave.
So I come on here putting my point of view & your only reply is name calling?
How are you any better than those who call you names?
[quote][p][bold]Proud from LIVERPOOL[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ronn12[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]arizonan[/bold] wrote: Just thought what an odd couple Hannan and Callahan must appear to EU officials. Here they are, with UKplc having a net input to the EU, arguing for the repayment of an EU grant made to a UK port, Liverpool. Can you imagine two French MEP's haranging the EU for the repayment of a grant made to say, Le Havre?. No you can't, because it would not happen in France, or any of the other EU members, bar one.[/p][/quote]I totally agree , it's one sad joke they must look pathetic, I hope they get told to stand in the corner facing the wall. Act like children , get treated like children... Lol[/p][/quote]So 500 jobs lost around the country with the bulk in Wales but Liverpools okay they're taking on 150 so were alright mate who cares about the rest of the UK? The other news we saw was for Meridian TV being refused an interview with Jo Anderson ( your council leader?) & having to track him down to talk about the EU wanting it's money back. He said very little & looked like a trapped Rabbit.[/p][/quote]For the benefit of Loosehead and other whingers. Liverpool has lost a lot of jobs in the past. Part of the site which is currently being re-developed as the International Trade Centre was occupied by Mobil Oils specialist blending plant which had been in Birkenhead over 50 years. This plant closed down and a large number of local people lost their jobs, not because they were no good at their jobs as you would like to believe ( because we live up north ) but for the following simple reason. Exxon took over Mobil Oil and because Exxon already had a similar plant down south , they rationalised and closed Mobil Birkenhead down about 8 - 10 years ago. They just walked away leaving the mini refinery and storage tanks to rot ( typical of multi-national companies ) , leaving a desolate wasteland. I believe that they lease the site on a 99year lease, with the condition that when they left they had to clear the site as it was when they first took it. It must have been quite a shock for them when they found out, but the site is now being cleaned up. I would never joke about anybody losing their job ( I'm a little bit more adult than that ). I feel sorry for those people affected by Unilevers plans but it happens everywhere, no one is safe, especially if they are employed by a multi-national company that can divert production to the other side of the world without a bye or leave.[/p][/quote]So I come on here putting my point of view & your only reply is name calling? How are you any better than those who call you names? loosehead
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