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Southerners are 'snobs' according to northerners

5:51pm Friday 22nd February 2008

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ALMOST five million southerners (15 per cent) have never visited the north at all, while 2.3 million northerners - one in ten - have never ventured south in their entire lives, a new report reveals.

Hotel chain Travelodge found that the northern city most visited by southerners is Manchester (30 per cent), however just 17 per cent of southerners have visited Newcastle, and only one in five have visited Liverpool (22 per cent).

While three-quarters of northerners have travelled to London, fewer than one in five have visited southern cities such as Southampton.

Almost two-thirds of northerners are put off visiting the south more often by the belief that southerners are snobs, while just over half believe they are arrogant, with hardly any decent pubs.

On the other hand though, southerners (13%) believe northerners are unfashionable and lacking a sense of style.

Almost two thirds are put off from venturing North because they believe it is bleak and unsophisticated and the people are narrow minded.

They also believe there is nothing worth seeing in the North that compares to what we have down South.

When it came to the people themselves, most Southerners credited their northern cousins with having a good sense of humour, and hard working ethic and a cheery outlook.

Northerners were not quite so kind.

But rather than just call southerners arrogant snobs, they did say people in the South are confident, stylish and intelligent.

Stereotypes are alive and kicking, with the north being associated with the Full Monty, mining villages and black pudding.

The South on the other hand conjured up images of Essex girls, pinstripe suits and footballers' wives.

TV soaps such as Coronation Street, Emmerdale and EastEnders are blamed most for perceptions of life and people in the north and south.


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dave, millbrook says...
2:30pm Fri 22 Feb 08

Don't know what they're on about.I was in Newbury last week!

N, says...
2:32pm Fri 22 Feb 08

Just wait til we get our pyramid!

How many Easterners have visited the West Country, I need to know.

Southerner, The South says...
2:49pm Fri 22 Feb 08

I don't blame people up north or even the Midlands for not venturing south.
My own personal experiences have proved that people down here are far less friendly and approachable. We do our very best here to avoid eye contact and in turn conversation on public transport and other public places,thinking the other person "odd" if they attempt any form of dialogue.

Lord Smythe Dewalte III, sandbanks says...
2:50pm Fri 22 Feb 08

Snobs? How very quant.

We prefer to be called "olde money".

Oh, and be a dear and pass the fois gras.

AWOL, finishing school says...
2:57pm Fri 22 Feb 08

Northerners probaly think we southerners are snobs because we speak with clarity and correct pronounciation.

SouthCity, Soton says...
3:06pm Fri 22 Feb 08

To be fair how many Londoners have been to any otgher cities in the South?

J, Soton says...
3:07pm Fri 22 Feb 08

AWOL wrote:
Northerners probaly think we southerners are snobs because we speak with clarity and correct pronounciation.
It's actually spelt, pronunciation

The Saint, says...
3:10pm Fri 22 Feb 08

SouthCity wrote:
To be fair how many Londoners have been to any otgher cities in the South?
How many Londoners would you want in your city?

Saints Chic, Work says...
3:14pm Fri 22 Feb 08

Been to a few cities north of London but only if I could get tickets for the football!!!!!!

AWOL, kept in after school says...
3:16pm Fri 22 Feb 08

J wrote:
AWOL wrote: Northerners probaly think we southerners are snobs because we speak with clarity and correct pronounciation.
It's actually spelt, pronunciation
J have you lost your sense of humour? it was a deliberate squelling mistake!

Steve, Swaythling says...
3:18pm Fri 22 Feb 08

I'm getting bus t' pub.

Northern Divvies can't even speak properly.

I'd rather be a snob anyday. Don't encourage them down here, it might be contagious.

denzil, romsey says...
3:21pm Fri 22 Feb 08

in your northern slums you look through the bins for something to eat you find a dead rat and think its a treat

Arthur Name, The Toon says...
3:29pm Fri 22 Feb 08

As a 3 year resident of the fair city of Newcastle I can totally recommend it as a place to live, work, eat, drink & be merry. Still enjoy my trips home tho (apart from when Saints are playing anyway). Can understand tho that we're seen as cold and unfriendly by comparison.

Robert, says...
3:55pm Fri 22 Feb 08

Another gaffe by the Echo.

It's >>footballers' wives<<.

AWOLLY, Liarsville says...
3:57pm Fri 22 Feb 08

AWOL wrote:
J wrote:
AWOL wrote: Northerners probaly think we southerners are snobs because we speak with clarity and correct pronounciation.
It's actually spelt, pronunciation
J have you lost your sense of humour? it was a deliberate squelling mistake!
Don't intimate your spelling deficiency is deliberate - what happened to "probaly"?Dumbo.

George, says...
4:01pm Fri 22 Feb 08

Robert wrote:
Another gaffe by the Echo. It's >>footballers' wives<<.
Since when has any word had chevrons either side of it?

Besides, you might want to check your eyesight...

Normal Person, The South says...
4:14pm Fri 22 Feb 08

Southerner wrote:
I don't blame people up north or even the Midlands for not venturing south. My own personal experiences have proved that people down here are far less friendly and approachable. We do our very best here to avoid eye contact and in turn conversation on public transport and other public places,thinking the other person "odd" if they attempt any form of dialogue.
That's obviously because you look like a weirdo - I hate weirdos who try & speak to me on public transport.

Mark, soton says...
4:27pm Fri 22 Feb 08

Imagine a south, where people looked like Wayne Rooney! aarrggghhh

Keep them up there.

sailor sam, portsmouth says...
4:31pm Fri 22 Feb 08

I note that Nigel Pearson, this week's manager of SFC is a Northerner!
I wonder whether he thinks that southerners are snobs! Lets face it, the old gas works site is not known for its beautiful scenary or as a desirable work place!
Blimey! It must be grim up North!


Mother Shipton, says...
4:46pm Fri 22 Feb 08

sailor sam wrote:
I note that Nigel Pearson, this week's manager of SFC is a Northerner! I wonder whether he thinks that southerners are snobs! Lets face it, the old gas works site is not known for its beautiful scenary or as a desirable work place! Blimey! It must be grim up North!
Quite. That's why Portsmouth is known as a northern city in the South.

dave, millbrook says...
4:51pm Fri 22 Feb 08

sailor sam wrote:
I note that Nigel Pearson, this week's manager of SFC is a Northerner! I wonder whether he thinks that southerners are snobs! Lets face it, the old gas works site is not known for its beautiful scenary or as a desirable work place! Blimey! It must be grim up North!
It is grim - but not half as bad as that **** hole Porstmouth!

Ray, Elsewhere says...
6:54pm Fri 22 Feb 08

I have spent a considerable amount of time "up north" & my eldest brother married a geordie girl & has lived in Nirthumberland for more that 40 years, but the northeners are the ones stuck with the stereotype views, they are happy to call all southeners snobs but their problem is they are locked into Newcastle Brown Ale, Pie & mash, clogs, whippets & blind following of their football teams which are going nowhere

Old Git, Southampton says...
7:37pm Fri 22 Feb 08

Northerners are slobs according to this Southerner!

reupert l, in hidig from those ghastly footie oiks says...
7:59pm Fri 22 Feb 08

J wrote:
AWOL wrote: Northerners probaly think we southerners are snobs because we speak with clarity and correct pronounciation.
It's actually spelt, pronunciation
and prounced the same way....

mr x, sunny south says...
8:07pm Fri 22 Feb 08

good to see the north south divide still exists. and with current fuel prices it's hardly likely to change.

paddy b, says...
12:18am Sat 23 Feb 08

I don't really care what they think of us. It doesn't effect me in anyway so why would I care.

Tommy Spelling, says...
12:21am Sat 23 Feb 08

AWOLLY wrote:
AWOL wrote:
J wrote:
AWOL wrote: Northerners probaly think we southerners are snobs because we speak with clarity and correct pronounciation.
It's actually spelt, pronunciation
J have you lost your sense of humour? it was a deliberate squelling mistake!
Don't intimate your spelling deficiency is deliberate - what happened to "probaly"?Dumbo.
Another spelling freek nimby. Get a life and talk about the topic. We are really not interested in grammar patrollers like you you think big of yourself just because you can spot a spelling mistake.

Go und put ur 'ead dun a toilett to refresh the one brain cell you ave left.

paul b, says...
3:34am Sat 23 Feb 08

i think that we should be seen as snobbier than the northeners. We have decent accents, and live nearer the equator hence better weather.

i lived up north for a bit. and i chilled my little man off! i liked the shipping villages though with the big pontons where the ducks were. southererns rule. plus we are nearer to france and not norway

live local, southampton says...
3:58am Sat 23 Feb 08

Is there any way to complain about the reporting of articles in this paper.

This is discriminitory if you remove the North South Tag and use black /white, Christian/ Muslim there would be a national outcry (yes I know someone will feel I am being pedantic)but read the echos' own statment on our posts ...

Please treat other people with respect. You must not post anything that is abusive, indecent, unlawful or defamatory.

Why are they seeking to reinforce feelings of difference?

A realist, says...
9:35am Sat 23 Feb 08

live local wrote:
Is there any way to complain about the reporting of articles in this paper. This is discriminitory if you remove the North South Tag and use black /white, Christian/ Muslim there would be a national outcry (yes I know someone will feel I am being pedantic)but read the echos' own statment on our posts ... Please treat other people with respect. You must not post anything that is abusive, indecent, unlawful or defamatory. Why are they seeking to reinforce feelings of difference?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

What a tool!

King Mush, Woolston says...
3:50pm Sat 23 Feb 08

live local wrote:
Is there any way to complain about the reporting of articles in this paper. This is discriminitory if you remove the North South Tag and use black /white, Christian/ Muslim there would be a national outcry (yes I know someone will feel I am being pedantic)but read the echos' own statment on our posts ... Please treat other people with respect. You must not post anything that is abusive, indecent, unlawful or defamatory. Why are they seeking to reinforce feelings of difference?
Is there anyway to complain about numpties like this?

'Remove the North?South tag'? Change it to black/white/Christia
n/Muslim blah blah blah?

You dont 'live local' pal - youre on another planet!


PS All Northerners are thick clog-wearing miserable unfriendly layabouts.

They live in back to slum terraces, and enjoy pigeons, whippets, leek shows, black puddings,fat slags, shell suits and talk out of their noses.

OK? Sorted

wontee, soton says...
1:45pm Sun 24 Feb 08

What a bunch of anchors.
No wonder real folk don't like southerners.

janek, yorkshire says...
3:47pm Sun 24 Feb 08

Myra Hindley was northern and she is a National Treasure.

Tony, Scotswood, Newcastle says...
3:50pm Sun 24 Feb 08

I second that opinion Janek, don't forget Mary Bell as well . She was an inspiration to us all up North. Only a Northerner could have such impecable scissor skills.

Laura, says...
9:54pm Mon 25 Feb 08

Southerners do not speak 'correctly'

Linguists state that England is made up of different dialects and accents and there is no 'correct' way of speaking. People in London have a dialect the same as someone from Yorkshire does. Therefore we are all on the same level.- Southern 'barrth' and 'Mum' instead of 'mam' and 'bath' is not standard english...it is not right and i am sick of people assuming so.


I am sick of ignorant southerners that think they are right about everything...

Liam, Lancashire says...
7:44pm Tue 26 Feb 08

Well well, the comments I read here are certainly doing a lot to disprove the stereotype that southern folk are arrogant and snobs. Well done chaps, pip pip.

The north is bleak? Ha. You all just keep telling yourselves that. We have the Lake District, Peak District, Yorkshire Dales, need I go on? The south has...?

Southerners have better accents? Ya jast keep tellin' yersewfs that me ole bleedin' **** sparrahs.."oh its a jolly 'oliday wiv Marree" lol.

The north is full of desolate mining villages and the like is it? Lets see now..Manchester, Liverpool, Birmingham, Newcastle. The south has London and...?

"Blimey"..Southerner
s are clever than us normal folk are you? These comments prove it with the painfully outdated and toe curlingly embarresing way in which you view us. Britain is a teeny, tiny island and you guys act like you're a world apart from us in sophistication and yet you know nothing of us. How frightfully quaint.

Legends...In your own minds. ;-)

Andrew, Hertfordshire says...
2:24pm Mon 3 Mar 08

The way I see it from a southerners point of view who's visited the north plenty of times, northerners are friendler and honest, whereas southerners are snobby, arrogant gits who generally care about one thing: money.

Why do people always look at you really oddly in the south? It's almost as if you're not meant to speak or express yourself in any shape or form. At least northerners actually try to have fun.

Plus the fact that a night out up north is so much more fun than in the south.

So yeah, the north wins without a doubt.

A British Citizen - like the rest of you!!!, Britain says...
1:14am Wed 5 Mar 08

Liam wrote:
Well well, the comments I read here are certainly doing a lot to disprove the stereotype that southern folk are arrogant and snobs. Well done chaps, pip pip. The north is bleak? Ha. You all just keep telling yourselves that. We have the Lake District, Peak District, Yorkshire Dales, need I go on? The south has...? Southerners have better accents? Ya jast keep tellin' yersewfs that me ole bleedin' **** sparrahs.."oh its a jolly 'oliday wiv Marree" lol. The north is full of desolate mining villages and the like is it? Lets see now..Manchester, Liverpool, Birmingham, Newcastle. The south has London and...? "Blimey"..Southerner s are clever than us normal folk are you? These comments prove it with the painfully outdated and toe curlingly embarresing way in which you view us. Britain is a teeny, tiny island and you guys act like you're a world apart from us in sophistication and yet you know nothing of us. How frightfully quaint. Legends...In your own minds. ;-)
To use your words, 'you know nothing of us' either. You have no idea what southerners are like, and I have no idea what northerners are like. We are all human beings. It's all stereotypical nonsense that is encouraged by society to keep up the north/ south divide, and you're all indulging it.

Dave, London says...
10:00am Mon 10 Mar 08

I love the fact that people from London whine about everything in the City but as soon as the issue switches to the north/south divide, their view of London suddenly changes. My question is: If London is so great, why are all Londoners so miserable? Northerners have have more drive as they want to get away from the poor quality of life they have. They logically go to the capital in search of better things but most realise that London is not all it's cracked up to be. They then set their sights higher and many emigrate to countries with better weather, leisure outlook, schools, food etc...The North has the best music (bands), best sense of humour but also has the most driven people.

bettie bickerstaff, Birmingham says...
1:40pm Sun 16 Mar 08

Long live the Yorkshire Ripper, makes your Jack look like a right Gent. The North is famous for its serial killers, and you soft southerners cannot compare.

Maddy, Hampshire says...
1:27pm Sat 22 Mar 08

I have a personal dislike for northerners because everyone I have met have done nothing but whinge on, boy can they talk, if it is so alful down here please please just stay oop there where you belong oohhh how fantastic would that be !!!!

Gillian Tolson, Surrey says...
1:29pm Sun 13 Apr 08

Northerners eat their first born. They deep fry it in batter and serve it with chips and garlic sauce. Then they feed the remains to their pet dogs and start on making another child. They also live 4 families to 1 small room and sleep in their own excrement.

Enraged!, says...
8:53pm Sat 3 May 08

Terrence wrote:
The south is full of baby rapists!
Because the north is full of saints is it?! You live in a part of the country where manners have been replaced by spitting and you scrounge of the southerners who work for their money and end up having to give it to you to support the kids you don't look after!

Rubbish, we aren't snobs!, says...
9:05pm Sat 3 May 08

Agreed, spitting should become currency in the north, as you see it more than money that has actually been earned instead of nicked from us southerners!

NorthdownSouth, City says...
10:25pm Wed 7 May 08

Spitting in the North? don't think thats a fact, unlike knife crime in the south combined with kids killing each other.

Southerner, Landan-innit.. says...
10:30pm Wed 7 May 08

King Mush wrote:
live local wrote:
Is there any way to complain about the reporting of articles in this paper. This is discriminitory if you remove the North South Tag and use black /white, Christian/ Muslim there would be a national outcry (yes I know someone will feel I am being pedantic)but read the echos\' own statment on our posts ... Please treat other people with respect. You must not post anything that is abusive, indecent, unlawful or defamatory. Why are they seeking to reinforce feelings of difference?
Is there anyway to complain about numpties like this?

\'Remove the North?South tag\'? Change it to black/white/Christia
n/Muslim blah blah blah?

You dont \'live local\' pal - youre on another planet!


PS All Northerners are thick clog-wearing miserable unfriendly layabouts.

They live in back to slum terraces, and enjoy pigeons, whippets, leek shows, black puddings,fat slags, shell suits and talk out of their noses.

OK? Sorted
Look up Xenophobe in the OED and it says 'Southerners.'

Alan Mcmanus, Manchester says...
2:55pm Sun 18 May 08

I've been to London once. It was ****.

Terrence, Glasgow says...
2:59pm Sun 18 May 08

I'd rather spit than rape a baby. Sicko. You seem to agree that the South is full of rapists, and your argument that spitting is worse is ridiculous.

Ethel Watson, Sussex says...
1:58pm Sat 31 May 08

I am utterly appalled at the apparent lack of respect you appear to be showing to each other.

It is clear that all northerners are indeed stupid, but southerners are not showing themselves in a bright light either for allowing themselves to be dragged into such a dispicable debate.

Ethel Watson, Sussex says...
1:58pm Sat 31 May 08

I am utterly appalled at the apparent lack of respect you appear to be showing to each other.

It is clear that all northerners are indeed stupid, but southerners are not showing themselves in a bright light either for allowing themselves to be dragged into such a dispicable debate.

Ethel Watson, Sussex says...
1:58pm Sat 31 May 08

I am utterly appalled at the apparent lack of respect you appear to be showing to each other.

It is clear that all northerners are indeed stupid, but southerners are not showing themselves in a bright light either for allowing themselves to be dragged into such a dispicable debate.

Roxy, Manchester says...
12:31pm Sun 1 Jun 08

I dnt care bout north vs south, whoever has the most money nd biggest c-ock is fine by me. north people r better laffs tho, big time. more blacks in south as well.

William Charles Smithe, Suffolk says...
2:37pm Sun 1 Jun 08

Since Fox Hunting was banned I propose a new sport, Northerner Hunting. The sight of my hounds ripping a geordie apart would fill my heart with glee. Who seconds this proposal?

Perhaps I will suggest this to my local MP, it surely seems a novel way to reduce congestion in our already crowded prisons.

The Nazi Party had the right idea, but aimed at the wrong group of people. Lets gas the North and save the South. Let the Revolution begin! Rise up in arms Southerners!

Alan Hansell, Liverpool says...
12:58pm Sun 22 Jun 08

Southern C-unts

David M, The lovely north says...
9:13am Fri 8 Aug 08

Steve wrote:
I\\\\\\\'m getting bus t\\\\\\\' pub. Northern Divvies can\\\\\\\'t even speak properly. I\\\\\\\'d rather be a snob anyday. Don\\\\\\\'t encourage them down here, it might be contagious.
Really? I was down south a few weeks back and the "caw bloimey gav'nah!" accents were equally grating.

Susie, Reading says...
11:18am Sat 9 Aug 08

rape

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