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5:51pm Friday 22nd February 2008
ALMOST five million southerners (15 per cent) have never visited the north at all, while 2.3 million northerners - one in ten - have never ventured south in their entire lives, a new report reveals.
Hotel chain Travelodge found that the northern city most visited by southerners is Manchester (30 per cent), however just 17 per cent of southerners have visited Newcastle, and only one in five have visited Liverpool (22 per cent).
While three-quarters of northerners have travelled to London, fewer than one in five have visited southern cities such as Southampton.
Almost two-thirds of northerners are put off visiting the south more often by the belief that southerners are snobs, while just over half believe they are arrogant, with hardly any decent pubs.
On the other hand though, southerners (13%) believe northerners are unfashionable and lacking a sense of style.
Almost two thirds are put off from venturing North because they believe it is bleak and unsophisticated and the people are narrow minded.
They also believe there is nothing worth seeing in the North that compares to what we have down South.
When it came to the people themselves, most Southerners credited their northern cousins with having a good sense of humour, and hard working ethic and a cheery outlook.
Northerners were not quite so kind.
But rather than just call southerners arrogant snobs, they did say people in the South are confident, stylish and intelligent.
Stereotypes are alive and kicking, with the north being associated with the Full Monty, mining villages and black pudding.
The South on the other hand conjured up images of Essex girls, pinstripe suits and footballers' wives.
TV soaps such as Coronation Street, Emmerdale and EastEnders are blamed most for perceptions of life and people in the north and south.
N, says...
2:32pm Fri 22 Feb 08
Southerner, The South says...
2:49pm Fri 22 Feb 08
Lord Smythe Dewalte III, sandbanks says...
2:50pm Fri 22 Feb 08
AWOL, finishing school says...
2:57pm Fri 22 Feb 08
SouthCity, Soton says...
3:06pm Fri 22 Feb 08
J, Soton says...
3:07pm Fri 22 Feb 08
AWOL wrote:It's actually spelt, pronunciation
Northerners probaly think we southerners are snobs because we speak with clarity and correct pronounciation.
The Saint, says...
3:10pm Fri 22 Feb 08
SouthCity wrote:How many Londoners would you want in your city?
To be fair how many Londoners have been to any otgher cities in the South?
Saints Chic, Work says...
3:14pm Fri 22 Feb 08
AWOL, kept in after school says...
3:16pm Fri 22 Feb 08
J wrote:J have you lost your sense of humour? it was a deliberate squelling mistake!
AWOL wrote: Northerners probaly think we southerners are snobs because we speak with clarity and correct pronounciation.It's actually spelt, pronunciation
Steve, Swaythling says...
3:18pm Fri 22 Feb 08
denzil, romsey says...
3:21pm Fri 22 Feb 08
Arthur Name, The Toon says...
3:29pm Fri 22 Feb 08
Robert, says...
3:55pm Fri 22 Feb 08
AWOLLY, Liarsville says...
3:57pm Fri 22 Feb 08
AWOL wrote:Don't intimate your spelling deficiency is deliberate - what happened to "probaly"?Dumbo.
J wrote:J have you lost your sense of humour? it was a deliberate squelling mistake!AWOL wrote: Northerners probaly think we southerners are snobs because we speak with clarity and correct pronounciation.It's actually spelt, pronunciation
George, says...
4:01pm Fri 22 Feb 08
Robert wrote:Since when has any word had chevrons either side of it?
Another gaffe by the Echo. It's >>footballers' wives<<.
Normal Person, The South says...
4:14pm Fri 22 Feb 08
Southerner wrote:That's obviously because you look like a weirdo - I hate weirdos who try & speak to me on public transport.
I don't blame people up north or even the Midlands for not venturing south. My own personal experiences have proved that people down here are far less friendly and approachable. We do our very best here to avoid eye contact and in turn conversation on public transport and other public places,thinking the other person "odd" if they attempt any form of dialogue.
Mark, soton says...
4:27pm Fri 22 Feb 08
sailor sam, portsmouth says...
4:31pm Fri 22 Feb 08
Mother Shipton, says...
4:46pm Fri 22 Feb 08
sailor sam wrote:Quite. That's why Portsmouth is known as a northern city in the South.
I note that Nigel Pearson, this week's manager of SFC is a Northerner! I wonder whether he thinks that southerners are snobs! Lets face it, the old gas works site is not known for its beautiful scenary or as a desirable work place! Blimey! It must be grim up North!
dave, millbrook says...
4:51pm Fri 22 Feb 08
sailor sam wrote:It is grim - but not half as bad as that **** hole Porstmouth!
I note that Nigel Pearson, this week's manager of SFC is a Northerner! I wonder whether he thinks that southerners are snobs! Lets face it, the old gas works site is not known for its beautiful scenary or as a desirable work place! Blimey! It must be grim up North!
Ray, Elsewhere says...
6:54pm Fri 22 Feb 08
Old Git, Southampton says...
7:37pm Fri 22 Feb 08
reupert l, in hidig from those ghastly footie oiks says...
7:59pm Fri 22 Feb 08
J wrote:and prounced the same way....
AWOL wrote: Northerners probaly think we southerners are snobs because we speak with clarity and correct pronounciation.It's actually spelt, pronunciation
mr x, sunny south says...
8:07pm Fri 22 Feb 08
paddy b, says...
12:18am Sat 23 Feb 08
Tommy Spelling, says...
12:21am Sat 23 Feb 08
AWOLLY wrote:Another spelling freek nimby. Get a life and talk about the topic. We are really not interested in grammar patrollers like you you think big of yourself just because you can spot a spelling mistake.
AWOL wrote:Don't intimate your spelling deficiency is deliberate - what happened to "probaly"?Dumbo.J wrote:J have you lost your sense of humour? it was a deliberate squelling mistake!AWOL wrote: Northerners probaly think we southerners are snobs because we speak with clarity and correct pronounciation.It's actually spelt, pronunciation
paul b, says...
3:34am Sat 23 Feb 08
live local, southampton says...
3:58am Sat 23 Feb 08
A realist, says...
9:35am Sat 23 Feb 08
live local wrote:HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!
Is there any way to complain about the reporting of articles in this paper. This is discriminitory if you remove the North South Tag and use black /white, Christian/ Muslim there would be a national outcry (yes I know someone will feel I am being pedantic)but read the echos' own statment on our posts ... Please treat other people with respect. You must not post anything that is abusive, indecent, unlawful or defamatory. Why are they seeking to reinforce feelings of difference?
King Mush, Woolston says...
3:50pm Sat 23 Feb 08
live local wrote:Is there anyway to complain about numpties like this?
Is there any way to complain about the reporting of articles in this paper. This is discriminitory if you remove the North South Tag and use black /white, Christian/ Muslim there would be a national outcry (yes I know someone will feel I am being pedantic)but read the echos' own statment on our posts ... Please treat other people with respect. You must not post anything that is abusive, indecent, unlawful or defamatory. Why are they seeking to reinforce feelings of difference?
wontee, soton says...
1:45pm Sun 24 Feb 08
janek, yorkshire says...
3:47pm Sun 24 Feb 08
Tony, Scotswood, Newcastle says...
3:50pm Sun 24 Feb 08
Laura, says...
9:54pm Mon 25 Feb 08
Liam, Lancashire says...
7:44pm Tue 26 Feb 08
Andrew, Hertfordshire says...
2:24pm Mon 3 Mar 08
A British Citizen - like the rest of you!!!, Britain says...
1:14am Wed 5 Mar 08
Liam wrote:To use your words, 'you know nothing of us' either. You have no idea what southerners are like, and I have no idea what northerners are like. We are all human beings. It's all stereotypical nonsense that is encouraged by society to keep up the north/ south divide, and you're all indulging it.
Well well, the comments I read here are certainly doing a lot to disprove the stereotype that southern folk are arrogant and snobs. Well done chaps, pip pip. The north is bleak? Ha. You all just keep telling yourselves that. We have the Lake District, Peak District, Yorkshire Dales, need I go on? The south has...? Southerners have better accents? Ya jast keep tellin' yersewfs that me ole bleedin' **** sparrahs.."oh its a jolly 'oliday wiv Marree" lol. The north is full of desolate mining villages and the like is it? Lets see now..Manchester, Liverpool, Birmingham, Newcastle. The south has London and...? "Blimey"..Southerner s are clever than us normal folk are you? These comments prove it with the painfully outdated and toe curlingly embarresing way in which you view us. Britain is a teeny, tiny island and you guys act like you're a world apart from us in sophistication and yet you know nothing of us. How frightfully quaint. Legends...In your own minds. ;-)
Dave, London says...
10:00am Mon 10 Mar 08
bettie bickerstaff, Birmingham says...
1:40pm Sun 16 Mar 08
Maddy, Hampshire says...
1:27pm Sat 22 Mar 08
Gillian Tolson, Surrey says...
1:29pm Sun 13 Apr 08
Enraged!, says...
8:53pm Sat 3 May 08
Terrence wrote:Because the north is full of saints is it?! You live in a part of the country where manners have been replaced by spitting and you scrounge of the southerners who work for their money and end up having to give it to you to support the kids you don't look after!
The south is full of baby rapists!
Rubbish, we aren't snobs!, says...
9:05pm Sat 3 May 08
NorthdownSouth, City says...
10:25pm Wed 7 May 08
Southerner, Landan-innit.. says...
10:30pm Wed 7 May 08
King Mush wrote:Look up Xenophobe in the OED and it says 'Southerners.'
live local wrote:Is there anyway to complain about numpties like this?
Is there any way to complain about the reporting of articles in this paper. This is discriminitory if you remove the North South Tag and use black /white, Christian/ Muslim there would be a national outcry (yes I know someone will feel I am being pedantic)but read the echos\' own statment on our posts ... Please treat other people with respect. You must not post anything that is abusive, indecent, unlawful or defamatory. Why are they seeking to reinforce feelings of difference?
\'Remove the North?South tag\'? Change it to black/white/Christia
n/Muslim blah blah blah?
You dont \'live local\' pal - youre on another planet!
PS All Northerners are thick clog-wearing miserable unfriendly layabouts.
They live in back to slum terraces, and enjoy pigeons, whippets, leek shows, black puddings,fat slags, shell suits and talk out of their noses.
OK? Sorted
Alan Mcmanus, Manchester says...
2:55pm Sun 18 May 08
Terrence, Glasgow says...
2:59pm Sun 18 May 08
Ethel Watson, Sussex says...
1:58pm Sat 31 May 08
Ethel Watson, Sussex says...
1:58pm Sat 31 May 08
Ethel Watson, Sussex says...
1:58pm Sat 31 May 08
Roxy, Manchester says...
12:31pm Sun 1 Jun 08
William Charles Smithe, Suffolk says...
2:37pm Sun 1 Jun 08
Alan Hansell, Liverpool says...
12:58pm Sun 22 Jun 08
David M, The lovely north says...
9:13am Fri 8 Aug 08
Steve wrote:Really? I was down south a few weeks back and the "caw bloimey gav'nah!" accents were equally grating.
I\\\\\\\'m getting bus t\\\\\\\' pub. Northern Divvies can\\\\\\\'t even speak properly. I\\\\\\\'d rather be a snob anyday. Don\\\\\\\'t encourage them down here, it might be contagious.
Susie, Reading says...
11:18am Sat 9 Aug 08
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dave, millbrook says...
2:30pm Fri 22 Feb 08