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PM joins campaign for Spitfire memorial

6:03am Thursday 5th June 2008

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THE Daily Echo's campaign for a grand landmark monument to the Spitfire will reach Number 10 Downing Street today.

The Prime Minister will host a reception for a delegation of Southampton heritage champions at Britain's most famous address.

Gordon Brown supports our campaign to create a striking memorial at a major gateway to Southampton.

Mr Brown will officially launch the international fundraising drive to turn the £1.5m vision into a reality.

The event will raise tens of thousands of pounds and take our campaign to recognise the Spitfire - and the men and women who built and flew it - to the world stage. About 40 sponsors and supporters were invited by Mr Brown to spend the evening at Number 10.

Councillor John Hannides, Southampton City Council's Cabinet member for leisure, culture and heritage, will be leading the delegation to meet Mr Brown.

He said: "The Spitfire was an iconic global symbol of innovation and courage, so where better to mark its place in aviation history than the city where it was born. We intend to create a tribute on a scale not seen anywhere else in the world.


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"We have received the backing of the Prime Minister and now we hope the people of Southampton and the whole of Britain will get behind us."

John Denham, MP for Southampton Itchen, said: "I am a keen supporter of the project to commemorate the Spitfire in Southampton and was very pleased to be able to arrange this reception with the Prime Minister at Number 10. I am looking forward to attending and hope that the reception will help the fundraising campaign get off to a good start."

The plans will see a striking installation rising 100ft above a major city gateway to commemorate the birth place of the historic plane, which helped secure victory in the Battle of Britain during the Second World War.

The Spitfire Tribute Foundation, led by Cllr Hannides, is made up of representatives from the Echo, Southampton Airport and Solent Sky Museum. It is also supported by prominent local businessmen Peter Harding, Robert Sperring and Patrick Trant. The foundation has raised £30,000 from Southampton-based sponsors and the council has committed a further £70,000. The target is £1.5m within 18 months.

Plans to fill the memorial coffers include amajor fundraising dinner, applications to national and international funding bodies, public subscriptions and donation companies worldwide.

An initial concept to have the Spitfire standing on its tail has received mixed reactions from Echo readers.

Designers commissioned by the council are drawing up the final plans, which are expected to be unveiled later in the summer.

The Give us a Spitfire campaign was launched after the Southampton Partnership, an unelected group of community leaders, rejected a funding bid to create a replica bronze Spitfire.


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R J Mitchell, Staffordshire says...
8:43am Thu 5 Jun 08

Nice that Southampton should want to commemorate one of staffordshires finest minds, R J Mitchell in this way. Indeed the spitfire monument at the Castle Bromwich Jaguar factory, near Birmingham, where all but a few of these fantastic fighters were made could do with companion down south. I wonder if there will be any acknowledgement to the fact.
"Spitfire, designed in Southampton by a midlander, built in Birmingham by midlanders."

Woolston Boy, says...
9:06am Thu 5 Jun 08

Monument should be positioned just as it is in the pictuure above, not on its tail.

Pukeko, Dunedin, NZ says...
9:23am Thu 5 Jun 08

Woolston Boy wrote:
Monument should be positioned just as it is in the pictuure above, not on its tail.
Hear hear, what an absurd idea it was (hopefully it remains past tense!) to stand a Spit up like that.

hmm, says...
9:55am Thu 5 Jun 08

It needs to be multicutual

gorf, soton says...
10:13am Thu 5 Jun 08

i am all for it but..........


A sculpture of the prototype Spitfire, K5054, stands on the roundabout at the entrance to Southampton International Airport, which, as Eastleigh Aerodrome, saw the first flight of the aircraft in March 1936

There is also a Spitfire on display on the Thornaby Road roundabout near the school named after Douglas Bader who flew a Spitfire in the Second World War. This memorial is in memory of the old RAF base in Thornaby which is now a residential estate.

One of the few remaining Spitfire in its original paint is displayed in the Australian War Memorial in Canberra; it has not been repainted since the Second World War.

R.J. Mitchell, Born 20 May 1895
Butt Lane, Newcastle-under-Lyme
, United Kingdom



If most of these things were built up north whats the link with southampton? sorry bit rubbish on history

C. Church, Bishopstoke says...
10:15am Thu 5 Jun 08

I'm afraid that Gordon will back anything at this time in history !

clair, Woolston says...
10:27am Thu 5 Jun 08

My dad would be so moved by this recognition - he was in the tool dept. outside his office were guards. He was on his way to another destination to take over a factory when he was killed - hit by an Army lorry. Needless to say there was no compensation then - my mum lived on 18s a week widow pension.
May I say the Spitfire outside Southampton Airport is a very poorly constructed affair and just looks as if it is supported by scaffolding. Sadly the intended model standing on it's tail is quite sad because if one could have seen it taking off then it was almost a feeling of pride at it's arrow-like swiftness into the sky ducking and diving gave the people of Southampton such relief that our Spitfires were protecting us.

clair
Please make it, as suggested in the previous letter, flying across the sky.

hmm, says...
10:35am Thu 5 Jun 08

Maybe it could shoot out jets of flouride for the kids from its guns?

local, says...
11:52am Thu 5 Jun 08

If the PM wants to help he could fund the memorial from central government

allsaintsnocurves, southampton says...
12:16pm Thu 5 Jun 08

R J Mitchell wrote:
Nice that Southampton should want to commemorate one of staffordshires finest minds, R J Mitchell in this way. Indeed the spitfire monument at the Castle Bromwich Jaguar factory, near Birmingham, where all but a few of these fantastic fighters were made could do with companion down south. I wonder if there will be any acknowledgement to the fact. "Spitfire, designed in Southampton by a midlander, built in Birmingham by midlanders."
You should get your facts right before commenting. The Spitfire was made by Supermarine aircraft manufactures who were based in Woolston in Southampton! not in Birmingham!

allsaintsnocurves, southampton says...
12:17pm Thu 5 Jun 08

R J Mitchell wrote:
Nice that Southampton should want to commemorate one of staffordshires finest minds, R J Mitchell in this way. Indeed the spitfire monument at the Castle Bromwich Jaguar factory, near Birmingham, where all but a few of these fantastic fighters were made could do with companion down south. I wonder if there will be any acknowledgement to the fact. \"Spitfire, designed in Southampton by a midlander, built in Birmingham by midlanders.\"
You should get your facts right before commenting. The Spitfire was made by Supermarine aircraft manufactures who were based in Woolston in Southampton! not in Birmingham!

Anlage, Southampton says...
1:16pm Thu 5 Jun 08

How ironic!

The Spitfire served to defend these shores and uphold the freedom and values of the British people during WW2. Gordon Brown's open border policy has put us under a new wave of invasion and he also wants to curtail our freedom with a 42 day "internment without trial" piece of legislation.

What an absolute hypocrite he is!

Julian Le Good, Hedge End says...
1:18pm Thu 5 Jun 08

allsaintsnocurves and "RJ Mitchell" (ho ho) are both correct, the Spitfire was built in Castle Bromwich and Woolston. It may well have been built elsewhere too. During the war many factories turned from manufacturing consumer goods to weapons. However whether a big model Spitfire stuck on a pylon somewhere, to gently decay and disappear under a film of pigeon poo is a good investment for public and donated money is a good question. It certainly isn't a "Wow Factor"

Sean, Southampton says...
1:22pm Thu 5 Jun 08

How ironic!

The Spitfire served to defend our shores and uphold the freedom and values of the British people during WW2. Gordon Brown's open door immigration policy has put us under a fresh wave of invasion, and he wants to curtail our freedom with a 42-day "lock 'em up without trial" piece of internment legislation.

What a hypocrite!

southy, redbridge says...
1:36pm Thu 5 Jun 08

how about renaming southampton airport to R.J.Michell and put a model of the spitfire there

southy, redbridge says...
1:42pm Thu 5 Jun 08

R J Mitchell wrote:
Nice that Southampton should want to commemorate one of staffordshires finest minds, R J Mitchell in this way. Indeed the spitfire monument at the Castle Bromwich Jaguar factory, near Birmingham, where all but a few of these fantastic fighters were made could do with companion down south. I wonder if there will be any acknowledgement to the fact.
"Spitfire, designed in Southampton by a midlander, built in Birmingham by midlanders."
ummm he was only born there he work and lived in the south and the first spitfires where build in southampton,but when the war started they where build all over the uk,plus there was never that many made when you compear with how many hurricanes was made the true winner off the battle of britian

gorf, says...
4:00pm Thu 5 Jun 08

wasnt he born in newcastle under lyme?

southy, redbridge says...
4:09pm Thu 5 Jun 08

gorf wrote:
wasnt he born in newcastle under lyme?
could off been not sure where he was born only knows he spent his working life in the south

Stuart Carrs, says...
4:33pm Thu 5 Jun 08

My Great Grandfather flew Junkers Ju 87s during the war. why do we not have a monument to this aircraft?

S Melly, says...
4:45pm Thu 5 Jun 08

Whats the point?

Whilst the money is being spend on that... people won't be able to get into Southampton to see it because of the BAD STATE OF THE ROADS!!!!!!

Fix the roads... and then see what "spare" cash there is for this silly monument.

justathought, southampton says...
5:04pm Thu 5 Jun 08

Woolston Boy wrote:
Monument should be positioned just as it is in the pictuure above, not on its tail.
Yes I 'hear! hear!' that too. The vertical structure looked rediculous.
However I really think something with a marine connection would be much more appropriate for this city. It's laudable to acknowledge past achievements, but we need to look forward not back so how is it appropriate now?

Numpty Basher, says...
5:26pm Thu 5 Jun 08

S Melly wrote:
Whats the point? Whilst the money is being spend on that... people won't be able to get into Southampton to see it because of the BAD STATE OF THE ROADS!!!!!! Fix the roads... and then see what "spare" cash there is for this silly monument.
Erm, read the article, will you?

Now, your starter for one point:

"Where does it say the money for the monument is coming from?"

southy, redbridge says...
5:37pm Thu 5 Jun 08

ah but justathought you said some thing with marine connection, but the spitfire do the first few was a sea planes and took part in the s/trophy whitch it won and lady docker paid for the first fighter version of the spitfire she allso gave money to the jet engine project whitch w.churchill with draw goverment support

Idiots, says...
5:39pm Thu 5 Jun 08

southy wrote:
how about renaming southampton airport to R.J.Michell and put a model of the spitfire there
Help mE!!!, there is already a model of a spitfire there on the roundabout.

Designed by a germen, ironic.

southy, redbridge says...
5:53pm Thu 5 Jun 08

yea but thats on the roundabout i thinking more like on top off entrance building sort off over hanging the doors
but what do you think of renaming southampton airport to R.J.MICHELL

wontee, Soton says...
7:37pm Thu 5 Jun 08

How about Michelle airport

Veteran, Woolston says...
7:54pm Thu 5 Jun 08

There's only one location for the Spitfire and that is in a victory roll pose above the Bargate Monument. It can't be beyond modern day engineering techniques to do this and it would look absolutely awesome. Imagine Southampton's two most iconic images together - that would be WOW. Also a lot more people, especially Southampton citizens, will be able to view it in the city centre than anywhere else.

Wills, Soton says...
7:58pm Thu 5 Jun 08

Castle Bromwich factory built about half of the total production of Spitfires of all marks'

Total: Castle Bromwich - 11964
There were many shadow factories.
Components built by sub contractors all over the country and brought together for assembly.
The designer who is mostly unknown who took the spitfire from the Mark 1 through to mark 24
was Joe Smith of Supermarine.

Wills, Soton says...
7:58pm Thu 5 Jun 08

Castle Bromwich factory built about half of the total production of Spitfires of all marks'

Total: Castle Bromwich - 11964
There were many shadow factories.
Components built by sub contractors all over the country and brought together for assembly.
The designer who is mostly unknown who took the spitfire from the Mark 1 through to mark 24
was Joe Smith of Supermarine.

Anybody, says...
9:21pm Thu 5 Jun 08

My Great Grandfather flew Junkers Ju 87s during the war. why do we not have a monument to this aircraft?


Yeah, we could get Anthony Gormley to construct a memorial with one crashed nose first into a field and riddled with bullet holes, and with a Spitfire performing a victory roll above it.

I hope that would satisfy you.

Anon, Southampton says...
10:21pm Thu 5 Jun 08

S Melly wrote:
Whats the point?

Whilst the money is being spend on that... people won't be able to get into Southampton to see it because of the BAD STATE OF THE ROADS!!!!!!

Fix the roads... and then see what "spare" cash there is for this silly monument.
Hardly a silly monument! Why don't you pay a bit of respect to those who helped build the spitfire and the pilots who flew it. It's because of them that Britain is a free country today and the Nazi annexation of Europe was stopped in it's tracks.

Anybody, UK says...
11:55pm Thu 5 Jun 08

Sorry to be political, but the Nazi annexation of Europe was not stopped in its tracks, it just went into stealth mode after they lost the military battle, and continued through the post-war establishment of the European Movement which has ultimately succeeded in creating the European Union, plans for which were drawn up by the Nazis when they knew they would lose the war.

credit care, anywhere says...
2:06am Fri 6 Jun 08

The sppifire should be displayed near where it was born, woolston. a huge spitfire on top of the surley paid for by now itchen Bridge, could even be placed on top of the bridge mounted on bearings so it turns in the wind acting like a giant weather Vane.


southy, redbridge says...
5:23pm Fri 6 Jun 08

Wills wrote:
Castle Bromwich factory built about half of the total production of Spitfires of all marks\'

Total: Castle Bromwich - 11964
There were many shadow factories.
Components built by sub contractors all over the country and brought together for assembly.
The designer who is mostly unknown who took the spitfire from the Mark 1 through to mark 24
was Joe Smith of Supermarine.
joe smith took over from r.j.michell after his short illness and death(cancer) in june 1937,the very first prototype spitfire k5054 first took off at southampton airport in march 1936

southy, redbridge says...
7:46pm Fri 6 Jun 08

ps wills. castle bromwich never made a single stitfire till june 1940,but stop making them in the 1950's

wontee, soton says...
10:03pm Sat 7 Jun 08

Big piccy of Gordon in the Echo.
Does he know that he's world famous in Southampton, thanks to his support for a local rag campaign. Or is the support reported by the Echo fictitious. God help the country if he's concerned about a model plane rather than the state of the economy.

Steve (my nan made Spitfires) Bartlett, New Forest says...
8:17am Sun 8 Jun 08

Eureka! Hidden in the chit-chat above, someone's just hit the nail on the head - well almost... Why not sling a lifesize Spitfire UNDER the Itchen Bridge? ...
<p><p>
Ooohh my blood's just run cold - like when 13 of the beauties flew over Weston shore for the Sea Wings airshow. <p><p>

Well that's that one sorted out... now for World peace... no Gordon - we can sort this one ourselves - thanks.

Help, Soton says...
2:06pm Sun 8 Jun 08

John Deadman will support anything that gets him into print. Too late matey your a gonner and that other Nulab oldLab I'll support anything mate of yours is going for the big heave ho too !

southy, redbridge says...
3:35pm Sun 8 Jun 08

i see some likes to knock the labour party, wonder how many of you was able to vote or remember what happen when the last tory goverment was in,what is realy needed is a true labour party not a tory party thats calls its self labour

Alex, Soton says...
7:14pm Sun 8 Jun 08

Ans some of us remember a socialist government (Harold Wilson) The country was bust could not even borrow money from the International money fund! Bins not emptied bodies not buried, The country was at a stand still. Nationalised industries losing millions on a daily basis - Old Labour old ideas !

southy, redbridge says...
8:00pm Sun 8 Jun 08

that was not harold wilson but was ted heath tory goverment 1970-73 alex and has you might remember we had one hell off a bill from the wwii to be paid to the usa,nationalise kept unemployment low and it was allso paying the money that we owed the usa whitch is why we dont owe the usa any money from the wwii any longer

Alex, Soton says...
6:46am Mon 9 Jun 08

Oh and there was me thinking it was Harold I saw on my telly cutting a pound note in half and telling us that devaluation of the pound would not affect us, So it was Ted all along, well I never !

southy, redbridge says...
2:05pm Mon 9 Jun 08

no that was harold wilson that done that and if you remember why he done it,it was has he said to cut the us dollar to the pound from 3 dollar to 1 dollar to the pound cutting what we owed the usa by 1/3 clever when you think about it,has with the torys they wanted it back up to 4 dollars to the pound so they could use the what we owed them has leverage if there was another war,and if you been watching the money market in the last few years you see the dollar losing ground,thats because we only owe usa less than 1 1/2 million usd insted of billions usd,

Jules, Southampton says...
4:36pm Mon 9 Jun 08

allsaintsnocurves wrote:
R J Mitchell wrote: Nice that Southampton should want to commemorate one of staffordshires finest minds, R J Mitchell in this way. Indeed the spitfire monument at the Castle Bromwich Jaguar factory, near Birmingham, where all but a few of these fantastic fighters were made could do with companion down south. I wonder if there will be any acknowledgement to the fact. "Spitfire, designed in Southampton by a midlander, built in Birmingham by midlanders."
You should get your facts right before commenting. The Spitfire was made by Supermarine aircraft manufactures who were based in Woolston in Southampton! not in Birmingham!
I think Spitfires were also manufactured at what is now the Jaguar car factory at Castle Bromwich in Birmingham. That's what I was told when i went on a visit there once.

southy, redbridge says...
7:52pm Mon 9 Jun 08

yes they where jules they made there first 10 in june to dec 1940

Ken, Stubbington says...
12:39am Tue 10 Jun 08

My grandfather was a spitfire pilot and he reckons he shot down a couple of Fokke's over The English Channel in 1940. At least, that's what I think he said. . . . .

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