Full steam ahead for Southampton's Titanic museum (From Daily Echo)
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Heritage Lottery Fund pledges £4.6m for Sea City Museum
8:24am Monday 29th March 2010 in Hampshire Heritage
The view of the new museum, looking south. More pictures in today's Echo
SOUTHAMPTON’S new Titanic museum is set to become a reality after it was today awarded a multi-million pound Lottery grant.
Construction will begin in just eight months’ time after the Heritage Lottery Fund (HLF) pledged to pump £4.6m into the tourist attraction.
The Daily Echo can today also reveal new artists’ impressions of what the museum will look like and what visitors will experience once inside.
More than 150,000 people a year are expected to visit the £15m Sea City Museum when it opens in April 2012, on the 100th anniversary of the Titanic tragedy.
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Duncan Disorderly
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9:01am Mon 29 Mar 10
Zeo wrote:That's 3000 a week, or 400+ a day. What's wrong with that?
just 150,000 P/A ??? - wow that's a lot ¬.¬"
Linesman
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9:56am Mon 29 Mar 10
Who has come up with that estimate?
If it is to be cost-effective, what will be the price of admission?
In other words, how much hay will be needed to feed this white elephant?
There was a great, international interest in Titanic when the film was made, but things have moved on since then.
Southampton 'missed the boat'!
The Wickham Man
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12:24pm Mon 29 Mar 10
Real enterprise and entreprenurial risk taking is a priceless asset, and it amazes me how every entrepreneur we have is hounded and outnumbered 100:1 by petty officials, naysayers and Nimbies.
southy
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12:59pm Mon 29 Mar 10
they might get 150.000 in the first year and that be a very big might but after that it will drop off getting smaller each year
allsaintsnocurves
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2:25pm Mon 29 Mar 10
Linesman wrote:Well southampton won't miss the boat with the Titanic centenary coming up which is what they are targetting...so if you think it was worth doing because of a hollywood movie then it must be worth doing for something a little bit more poignant - 100 years since it sunk!
150,000 people a year are Expected to visit. Who has come up with that estimate? If it is to be cost-effective, what will be the price of admission? In other words, how much hay will be needed to feed this white elephant? There was a great, international interest in Titanic when the film was made, but things have moved on since then. Southampton 'missed the boat'!
Seeing as the name Titanic is never going to go away then there should be something in southampton the city where it was boarded and left from that remembers this...after all people still visit the Mary Rose...
Linesman
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2:27pm Mon 29 Mar 10
southy wrote:That makes a hell of a lot more sense. Set in an area where the the departure of the Titanic could have been seen.
well if we can get a labour control council maybe they might stop this white elephant. and use the money to buy the royal pier and rebuild it. put a marine museum there. they might get 150.000 in the first year and that be a very big might but after that it will drop off getting smaller each year
Even so, as I said previously, Southampton have missed the boat on this one.
What memorabillia of the Titanic do the city have in store, and would it be enough to fill such a museum?
I very much doubt it.
The city already has a large collection of art, why not have an art gallery where that can be displayed?
freefinker
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2:54pm Mon 29 Mar 10
1) This is a hideous and unsympathetic extension to the Civic Centre.
2) The sinking was a tragedy for this city – over 500 of our citizens lost their lives.
3) For this reason alone I think a permanent exhibition is appropriate
4) It should concentrate on telling this story – for which large quantities of relics are not required.
5) I am sure it will succeed with the right content as the Titanic story seems to be of continuing interest.
6) Agree we should be using the Royal Pier – a maritime setting is appropriate.
geoff51
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4:51pm Mon 29 Mar 10
southy wrote:If we get a Labour controlled council there will not be any money left for any projects as it will all be spent on the usual bloated bureaucracy that comes with that political belief
well if we can get a labour control council maybe they might stop this white elephant. and use the money to buy the royal pier and rebuild it. put a marine museum there. they might get 150.000 in the first year and that be a very big might but after that it will drop off getting smaller each year
Actually I am surprised that the Civic Centre has not been turned into a shopping mall as that is all the previous Labour administration knew how to do
I do however think that the pier should be rebuilt
phil maccavity
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5:44pm Mon 29 Mar 10
Apparently a large part of the exhibition will recognise Soton's long standing maritime story which is ongoing
Actually I had a relative who lost their life on the ship and have no problems about their memory being remembered
Lots of people lost their life at Trafalgar or onboard the Mary Rose so disasters are often recognised with memorials.
Kind of agree about the siting but the Heritage Fund seems keen to provide £4.5m financial support so they must be Ok with the plans
Linesman
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5:49pm Mon 29 Mar 10
allsaintsnocurves wrote:For a start, I never said that I thought it was worth doing because of a Hollywood movie. I stated that there was great international interest in Titanic when the film was made, which is not the same.
Linesman wrote: 150,000 people a year are Expected to visit. Who has come up with that estimate? If it is to be cost-effective, what will be the price of admission? In other words, how much hay will be needed to feed this white elephant? There was a great, international interest in Titanic when the film was made, but things have moved on since then. Southampton 'missed the boat'!Well southampton won't miss the boat with the Titanic centenary coming up which is what they are targetting...so if you think it was worth doing because of a hollywood movie then it must be worth doing for something a little bit more poignant - 100 years since it sunk! Seeing as the name Titanic is never going to go away then there should be something in southampton the city where it was boarded and left from that remembers this...after all people still visit the Mary Rose...
You say that the name Titanic is never going to go away, but the word titanic was in use before the liner was even thought of and is still in use, meaning 'having or requiring colossal strength', which is a trifle ironic when you think of what happened to the liner of that name!
You then mention the Mary Rose!
Parts of that ship and many of the artifacts are on display in that museum but, to the best of my knowledge, virtually nothing remains of the Titanic other than photographs and paintings!
If you know of any parts that were salvaged, I would be most interested to be informed.
eurogordi
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6:40pm Mon 29 Mar 10
warness
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7:00pm Mon 29 Mar 10
The town that built the Sinclair C5 have stayed pretty quiet about that one.
Brite Spark
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7:24pm Mon 29 Mar 10
warness
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7:31pm Mon 29 Mar 10
Brite Spark wrote:And bunnies with fluffy white tails?
It's in the wrong place, it should be near the Ocean Terminal, public access allowed to that area of the docks, put a bar there too, and let people fish in the docks again and take their kids to see the ships.
southy
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8:46pm Mon 29 Mar 10
geoff51 wrote:i dont trust labour to, but they are the lesser of the evils. at lest the labour control council will place money in the right things, and if any one would turn the civic centre into a shopping mall it be your torys that will do it, they would sale there own grandmothers if they though they could put money in there back pockets.
southy wrote:If we get a Labour controlled council there will not be any money left for any projects as it will all be spent on the usual bloated bureaucracy that comes with that political belief
well if we can get a labour control council maybe they might stop this white elephant. and use the money to buy the royal pier and rebuild it. put a marine museum there. they might get 150.000 in the first year and that be a very big might but after that it will drop off getting smaller each year
Actually I am surprised that the Civic Centre has not been turned into a shopping mall as that is all the previous Labour administration knew how to do
I do however think that the pier should be rebuilt
warness
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8:55pm Mon 29 Mar 10
southy wrote:Eh?
geoff51 wrote:i dont trust labour to, but they are the lesser of the evils. at lest the labour control council will place money in the right things, and if any one would turn the civic centre into a shopping mall it be your torys that will do it, they would sale there own grandmothers if they though they could put money in there back pockets.southy wrote: well if we can get a labour control council maybe they might stop this white elephant. and use the money to buy the royal pier and rebuild it. put a marine museum there. they might get 150.000 in the first year and that be a very big might but after that it will drop off getting smaller each yearIf we get a Labour controlled council there will not be any money left for any projects as it will all be spent on the usual bloated bureaucracy that comes with that political belief Actually I am surprised that the Civic Centre has not been turned into a shopping mall as that is all the previous Labour administration knew how to do I do however think that the pier should be rebuilt
Lord Ikea
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9:17pm Mon 29 Mar 10
News Fanatic
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7:53am Tue 30 Mar 10
My guess is that as soon as it is built there will be a campaign to rid the city of this monstrosity. Can architects no longer design something that's attractive?
Remember what has happened with Bournemouth's IMAX cinema? It proved a disaster and an eyesore. The council has now bought it and is considering its options.
Back to the drawing board, Southampton!
Condor Man
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8:01am Tue 30 Mar 10
King Mush
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6:23pm Tue 30 Mar 10
How daft can they get? This project needs to be sited on the waterfront area instead of of the grid-locked city centre area. They might as well stick in the middle of the New Forest.
Time and time again our 'leaders' have overlooked the heritage and history of our city whilst other parts of the UK have managed to incorporate their own background into sensible locations. Liverpool a prime example with the riverside and the Beatles stuff etc.
We all know that it was a tragedy and so many lives lost - including many local crew etc. However- we are some 100 years on and I fail to see why some still criticise this whole aspect due to 'bad taste' or 'feelings' for long lost distant relatives- a few generations past.
There is more to the story- just take a look at the background
100%soton
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9:57pm Sat 3 Apr 10
The current Tory administration do have plans to improve the Pier. Building a museum or any authority driven economic development is hardly a typical Tory ideal and is actually more keynsian in its approach.
Labour have not actually committed to anything, part of their problem is that they feed off of public opinion instead of making any decisions.
What surprises me is why any party would bother if the city is full ungrateful, negative citizens such as yourself.
Zeo says...
8:27am Mon 29 Mar 10