Southampton's historic dock gates saved from demolition (From Daily Echo)

Great,jumps up and down with joy.

Let's hope that the decision to protect the gates will persuade ABP to repair the one near the Royal Pier. Last time I looked it read "Associated r ish orts'' and the hands were missing on the clock. It gives anyone entering the port a very poor impression.

Operational needs take precedence over sentiment. Appeal !

'Gateway to the world' is that correct? I have always thought it was 'gateway to the empire'

Which is correct?

At last something is being done to preserve our CITY..
Shame things like this didn't happen years back, when the Council agreed to allow large areas of the walls around the Bargate to be knocked down too...
There is too little left now.
This was once a great city, with lots of heritage places, but they almost have been let to fall down or been pulled down.
Hats off to those who managed to saves these important GATES...

Northamboy wrote:
'Gateway to the world' is that correct? I have always thought it was 'gateway to the empire'

Which is correct?

Southampton was referred to as 'The gateway to the Empire' but history revisionists like to play it down.

Torchie1 wrote:

Northamboy wrote:
'Gateway to the world' is that correct? I have always thought it was 'gateway to the empire'

Which is correct?

Southampton was referred to as 'The gateway to the Empire' but history revisionists like to play it down.

Thanks for that Torchie1 I thought I was correct!

As you say historians do tend to pc everything nowadays don't they.

Northamboy wrote:

Torchie1 wrote:

Northamboy wrote:
'Gateway to the world' is that correct? I have always thought it was 'gateway to the empire'

Which is correct?

Southampton was referred to as 'The gateway to the Empire' but history revisionists like to play it down.

Thanks for that Torchie1 I thought I was correct!

As you say historians do tend to pc everything nowadays don't they.

Both, I think, are correct.
Empire had to be dropped for obvious reasons that have everything to do with post war political realities and nothing to do with political correctness, but I think that both claims ran in tandem for a short while after World War II -- with "Gateway to England" on the other side of the signs. I stand to be corrected.
At present the sign greeting tourists leaving Dock Gate 4 is "Welcome to Southampton", which is somewhat underwhelming. We really should give it a bit of welly.
Southampton still is THE gateway to the world and England – all Britain if it comes to it – and I see no reason why we should play the fact down.

What an excellent decision.

I am sure that tourists from around the world will now be flocking to Southampton so that they gaze upon the magnificence of this gateway.

I wonder who will have to foot the bill for its maintenance.

Linesman wrote:
What an excellent decision.

I am sure that tourists from around the world will now be flocking to Southampton so that they gaze upon the magnificence of this gateway.

I wonder who will have to foot the bill for its maintenance.

The same people who pay for all the pretty flowers to be be planted and watered daily. You don't see people flocking here from all over the world to see the flowers?

Linesman wrote:
What an excellent decision.

I am sure that tourists from around the world will now be flocking to Southampton so that they gaze upon the magnificence of this gateway.

I wonder who will have to foot the bill for its maintenance.

Well hopefully the Citizens of Southampton will pay for the preservation of their Heritage, before, like so much more, it is lost for ever.

IronLady2010 wrote:

Linesman wrote:
What an excellent decision.

I am sure that tourists from around the world will now be flocking to Southampton so that they gaze upon the magnificence of this gateway.

I wonder who will have to foot the bill for its maintenance.

The same people who pay for all the pretty flowers to be be planted and watered daily. You don't see people flocking here from all over the world to see the flowers?

You are correct, but the locals who are paying their council tax to pay for the pretty flowers do enjoy them.

The flowers are planted in areas freqented by people, and the flowers are replaced when they finish flowering, they are not preserved beyond their useful life, at great cost.

The flowers have a beneficial effect on those that see them. Something to enjoy. A splash of colour. A thing of beauty.

Flowers provide nectar for bees, often at a time when there are not many wild flowers in bloom. This helps ensure the survival of the bees, who by pollinating many crops, help us with the food-chain.

I wonder how many times you have sat in one of the city's parks and enjoyed the flowers.

My betting is that it is a damned sight more times than you have been down to the dock gate to admire the architecture.

IronLady2010 wrote:

Linesman wrote:
What an excellent decision.

I am sure that tourists from around the world will now be flocking to Southampton so that they gaze upon the magnificence of this gateway.

I wonder who will have to foot the bill for its maintenance.

The same people who pay for all the pretty flowers to be be planted and watered daily. You don't see people flocking here from all over the world to see the flowers?

You are correct, but the locals who are paying their council tax to pay for the pretty flowers do enjoy them.

The flowers are planted in areas freqented by people, and the flowers are replaced when they finish flowering, they are not preserved beyond their useful life, at great cost.

The flowers have a beneficial effect on those that see them. Something to enjoy. A splash of colour. A thing of beauty.

Flowers provide nectar for bees, often at a time when there are not many wild flowers in bloom. This helps ensure the survival of the bees, who by pollinating many crops, help us with the food-chain.

I wonder how many times you have sat in one of the city's parks and enjoyed the flowers.

My betting is that it is a damned sight more times than you have been down to the dock gate to admire the architecture.

IronLady2010 wrote:

Linesman wrote:
What an excellent decision.

I am sure that tourists from around the world will now be flocking to Southampton so that they gaze upon the magnificence of this gateway.

I wonder who will have to foot the bill for its maintenance.

The same people who pay for all the pretty flowers to be be planted and watered daily. You don't see people flocking here from all over the world to see the flowers?

You are correct, but the locals who are paying their council tax to pay for the pretty flowers do enjoy them.

The flowers are planted in areas freqented by people, and the flowers are replaced when they finish flowering, they are not preserved beyond their useful life, at great cost.

The flowers have a beneficial effect on those that see them. Something to enjoy. A splash of colour. A thing of beauty.

Flowers provide nectar for bees, often at a time when there are not many wild flowers in bloom. This helps ensure the survival of the bees, who by pollinating many crops, help us with the food-chain.

I wonder how many times you have sat in one of the city's parks and enjoyed the flowers.

My betting is that it is a damned sight more times than you have been down to the dock gate to admire the architecture.

IronLady2010 wrote:

Linesman wrote:
What an excellent decision.

I am sure that tourists from around the world will now be flocking to Southampton so that they gaze upon the magnificence of this gateway.

I wonder who will have to foot the bill for its maintenance.

The same people who pay for all the pretty flowers to be be planted and watered daily. You don't see people flocking here from all over the world to see the flowers?

You are correct, but the locals who are paying their council tax to pay for the pretty flowers do enjoy them.

The flowers are planted in areas freqented by people, and the flowers are replaced when they finish flowering, they are not preserved beyond their useful life, at great cost.

The flowers have a beneficial effect on those that see them. Something to enjoy. A splash of colour. A thing of beauty.

Flowers provide nectar for bees, often at a time when there are not many wild flowers in bloom. This helps ensure the survival of the bees, who by pollinating many crops, help us with the food-chain.

I wonder how many times you have sat in one of the city's parks and enjoyed the flowers.

My betting is that it is a damned sight more times than you have been down to the dock gate to admire the architecture.

IronLady2010 wrote:

Linesman wrote:
What an excellent decision.

I am sure that tourists from around the world will now be flocking to Southampton so that they gaze upon the magnificence of this gateway.

I wonder who will have to foot the bill for its maintenance.

The same people who pay for all the pretty flowers to be be planted and watered daily. You don't see people flocking here from all over the world to see the flowers?

You are correct, but the locals who are paying their council tax to pay for the pretty flowers do enjoy them.

The flowers are planted in areas freqented by people, and the flowers are replaced when they finish flowering, they are not preserved beyond their useful life, at great cost.

The flowers have a beneficial effect on those that see them. Something to enjoy. A splash of colour. A thing of beauty.

Flowers provide nectar for bees, often at a time when there are not many wild flowers in bloom. This helps ensure the survival of the bees, who by pollinating many crops, help us with the food-chain.

I wonder how many times you have sat in one of the city's parks and enjoyed the flowers.

My betting is that it is a damned sight more times than you have been down to the dock gate to admire the architecture.

IronLady2010 wrote:

Linesman wrote:
What an excellent decision.

I am sure that tourists from around the world will now be flocking to Southampton so that they gaze upon the magnificence of this gateway.

I wonder who will have to foot the bill for its maintenance.

The same people who pay for all the pretty flowers to be be planted and watered daily. You don't see people flocking here from all over the world to see the flowers?

You are correct, but the locals who are paying their council tax to pay for the pretty flowers do enjoy them.

The flowers are planted in areas freqented by people, and the flowers are replaced when they finish flowering, they are not preserved beyond their useful life, at great cost.

The flowers have a beneficial effect on those that see them. Something to enjoy. A splash of colour. A thing of beauty.

Flowers provide nectar for bees, often at a time when there are not many wild flowers in bloom. This helps ensure the survival of the bees, who by pollinating many crops, help us with the food-chain.

I wonder how many times you have sat in one of the city's parks and enjoyed the flowers.

My betting is that it is a damned sight more times than you have been down to the dock gate to admire the architecture.

IronLady2010 wrote:

Linesman wrote:
What an excellent decision.

I am sure that tourists from around the world will now be flocking to Southampton so that they gaze upon the magnificence of this gateway.

I wonder who will have to foot the bill for its maintenance.

The same people who pay for all the pretty flowers to be be planted and watered daily. You don't see people flocking here from all over the world to see the flowers?

The pretty flowers are a thing of beauty. They have a life-span, and are not preserved, at a great cost, beyond their useful life.

The pretty flowers also provide nectar for bees, that also pollinate the flowers on many of our food sources.

The pretty flowers are also usually planted in areas that the general public use frequently, or in parks where they relax.

For those reasons, I think that the cost involved is well worth spending.

How many times do you think that you will be visiting the dock gates?

I wonder

IronLady2010 wrote:

Linesman wrote:
What an excellent decision.

I am sure that tourists from around the world will now be flocking to Southampton so that they gaze upon the magnificence of this gateway.

I wonder who will have to foot the bill for its maintenance.

The same people who pay for all the pretty flowers to be be planted and watered daily. You don't see people flocking here from all over the world to see the flowers?

You are correct, but the locals who are paying their council tax to pay for the pretty flowers do enjoy them.

The flowers are planted in areas freqented by people, and the flowers are replaced when they finish flowering, they are not preserved beyond their useful life, at great cost.

The flowers have a beneficial effect on those that see them. Something to enjoy. A splash of colour. A thing of beauty.

Flowers provide nectar for bees, often at a time when there are not many wild flowers in bloom. This helps ensure the survival of the bees, who by pollinating many crops, help us with the food-chain.

I wonder how many times you have sat in one of the city's parks and enjoyed the flowers.

My betting is that it is a damned sight more times than you have been down to the dock gate to admire the architecture.

IronLady2010 wrote:

Linesman wrote:
What an excellent decision.

I am sure that tourists from around the world will now be flocking to Southampton so that they gaze upon the magnificence of this gateway.

I wonder who will have to foot the bill for its maintenance.

The same people who pay for all the pretty flowers to be be planted and watered daily. You don't see people flocking here from all over the world to see the flowers?

You are correct, but the locals who are paying their council tax to pay for the pretty flowers do enjoy them.

The flowers are planted in areas freqented by people, and the flowers are replaced when they finish flowering, they are not preserved beyond their useful life, at great cost.

The flowers have a beneficial effect on those that see them. Something to enjoy. A splash of colour. A thing of beauty.

Flowers provide nectar for bees, often at a time when there are not many wild flowers in bloom. This helps ensure the survival of the bees, who by pollinating many crops, help us with the food-chain.

I wonder how many times you have sat in one of the city's parks and enjoyed the flowers.

My betting is that it is a damned sight more times than you have been down to the dock gate to admire the architecture.

IronLady2010 wrote:

Linesman wrote:
What an excellent decision.

I am sure that tourists from around the world will now be flocking to Southampton so that they gaze upon the magnificence of this gateway.

I wonder who will have to foot the bill for its maintenance.

The same people who pay for all the pretty flowers to be be planted and watered daily. You don't see people flocking here from all over the world to see the flowers?

You are correct, but the locals who are paying their council tax to pay for the pretty flowers do enjoy them.

The flowers are planted in areas freqented by people, and the flowers are replaced when they finish flowering, they are not preserved beyond their useful life, at great cost.

The flowers have a beneficial effect on those that see them. Something to enjoy. A splash of colour. A thing of beauty.

Flowers provide nectar for bees, often at a time when there are not many wild flowers in bloom. This helps ensure the survival of the bees, who by pollinating many crops, help us with the food-chain.

I wonder how many times you have sat in one of the city's parks and enjoyed the flowers.

My betting is that it is a damned sight more times than you have been down to the dock gate to admire the architecture.

IronLady2010 wrote:

Linesman wrote:
What an excellent decision.

I am sure that tourists from around the world will now be flocking to Southampton so that they gaze upon the magnificence of this gateway.

I wonder who will have to foot the bill for its maintenance.

The same people who pay for all the pretty flowers to be be planted and watered daily. You don't see people flocking here from all over the world to see the flowers?

You are correct, but the locals who are paying their council tax to pay for the pretty flowers do enjoy them.

The flowers are planted in areas freqented by people, and the flowers are replaced when they finish flowering, they are not preserved beyond their useful life, at great cost.

The flowers have a beneficial effect on those that see them. Something to enjoy. A splash of colour. A thing of beauty.

Flowers provide nectar for bees, often at a time when there are not many wild flowers in bloom. This helps ensure the survival of the bees, who by pollinating many crops, help us with the food-chain.

I wonder how many times you have sat in one of the city's parks and enjoyed the flowers.

My betting is that it is a damned sight more times than you have been down to the dock gate to admire the architecture.

Linesman wrote:
What an excellent decision.

I am sure that tourists from around the world will now be flocking to Southampton so that they gaze upon the magnificence of this gateway.

I wonder who will have to foot the bill for its maintenance.

It's a burden now for ABP as they are the owners, I should have thought.

Having been taken through these gates as a kid by my father to see the QE2, Canberra, Oriana etc dockside and in the dry dock (and also to be introduced to dunking buttered toast into tea at the dockers cafe situated near the dry dock), I for one am gladdened that the gates shall remain.
Too much of our heritage was taken away by Hitler and his cohorts, the city planners of yesteryear and no matter that these are simply a pair of brick gates, they remain part of our collective history.
Long may they remain.

I apologise for the number of times my posts appeared.

I was NOT trying to emphasise my view, it was a case that, for some reason, I had no indication that my post had been accepted. I was clicking on 'submit', but there appeared to be no response.

Once again.

I apologise.

Happens to the best of us Linesman - the Echo website isn't the most user friendly piece of web interfacing I've ever come across

Beer Monster wrote:
Happens to the best of us Linesman - the Echo website isn't the most user friendly piece of web interfacing I've ever come across

Thanks for the vote of confidence.

I was on the verge of pleading insanitary.