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7:20am Thursday 8th January 2009 in QE2
By Keith Hamilton, Shipping & Heritage Reporter
Southampton’s former liner Queen Elizabeth 2 is set to be sliced in two as part of her conversion into a floating hotel in Dubai it can be revealed.
Plans are now being drawn up which would see QE2 cut in half and a 100ft-long extension, providing extra accommodation and entertainment facilities, inserted to lengthen the vessel.
In Southampton there was a furious reaction to leaked reports from the Middle East about QE2’s future with one former passenger describing the plan as “horrifying’’. Another said they would rather see the ship scrapped.
Demands are also growing for the names Queen Elizabeth 2 and Southampton to be removed from the liner following the conversion as their continued use would be an “insult’’ to the Queen and the city, which was the ship’s home for nearly 40 years.
Watch QE2's send off from Southampton.
QE2 Enterprises, the company set up to operate the ship as a tourist attraction in the oil rich emirate, is coy when it comes to confirming or denying details of the conversion work, which is expected to take at least two years.
Although a dramatic procedure, the lengthening of vessels by cutting them in half and then adding an extra mid-section, has become increasingly common in the world’s shipyards.
If the plan to lengthen QE2 is given the go-ahead it is likely the ship will return to Europe where much of the work will be undertaken at the Lloyd Werf yard in Bremerhaven, Germany.
Hampshire author and maritime historian, Mick Lindsay, a former traveller on QE2 said: “I’m just speechless – although I’ve always had serious misgivings about what might happen to her once she was in Dubai.
“The new owners said how proud they were to own QE2 but this just shows their complete and utter disrespect for the liner that was once the most famous in the world. My concern for the ship becomes deeper and deeper the more I hear.’’ Terry Yarwood, who was part of a consortium of local businessmen who wanted to buy QE2 and keep her in Southampton, and a regular passenger on QE2 when the liner was part of the Cunard fleet said: “It would be absolutely appalling if this was to happen. I wanted to keep her in Southampton as part of our heritage but if they did cut the ship in half I think I would rather have seen her go for scrap.
“The liner will be unrecognisable if all these changes take place so the name, Queen Elizabeth 2 and that of Southampton should be removed from her hull. I think if these names were kept it would be an insult to the Queen and Southampton.’’ QE2’s final departure from Southampton, in November last year, was one of the city’s most memorable events. Hundreds of yachts, boats and pleasure craft followed the liner into the Solent and thousands of sightseers crammed vantage points along the coastline.
QE2 Enterprises has confirmed that once the ship was been transformed into a hotel it will have a private members’ club, shops selling British products, West End and Broadway-style shows and its exclusive dining room, the Queen’s Grill. On board there will be more than 200 hotel rooms, a museum, spa and health club, and a choice of restaurants.
Comments(37)
SFC Ed
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7:46am Thu 8 Jan 09
joenice
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8:39am Thu 8 Jan 09
10 Minute Man
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8:48am Thu 8 Jan 09
Old Man of the Sea
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10:08am Thu 8 Jan 09
10 Minute Man wrote:Well said
Well they own it, they can do what they want.
goard
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10:56am Thu 8 Jan 09
merchant seaman
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11:14am Thu 8 Jan 09
blonde1995
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11:17am Thu 8 Jan 09
Paramjit Bahia
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11:41am Thu 8 Jan 09
Northamboy
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12:25pm Thu 8 Jan 09
Boris Remmington
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12:52pm Thu 8 Jan 09
Georgebush
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1:02pm Thu 8 Jan 09
jason bourne
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1:09pm Thu 8 Jan 09
Alf
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1:14pm Thu 8 Jan 09
Northamboy wrote:More than your prediction I was one of many that served on her before they started employing cheap foreign labour.
Its a ship that no longer belongs to us not that it ever did. How many Southampton people set foot on her over the years? Less than 1% is my bet. She has now been sold so whats all the fuss about? Its only a lump of metal and they can do what they like to her as far as I am concerned.
goard
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1:20pm Thu 8 Jan 09
Miles Sway
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1:44pm Thu 8 Jan 09
S!mon
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1:47pm Thu 8 Jan 09
Northamboy
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2:06pm Thu 8 Jan 09
Alf wrote:Alf
Northamboy wrote:More than your prediction I was one of many that served on her before they started employing cheap foreign labour.
Its a ship that no longer belongs to us not that it ever did. How many Southampton people set foot on her over the years? Less than 1% is my bet. She has now been sold so whats all the fuss about? Its only a lump of metal and they can do what they like to her as far as I am concerned.
To say that she is only a piece of metal is an insult to many of the crew members that served on her Qe2 was and still is respected around the world.
goard
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3:15pm Thu 8 Jan 09
fatboy
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3:46pm Thu 8 Jan 09
blonde1995 wrote:You're right, it'll sink if you do???
no !! u cant slice it in half
sausage monkey
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5:35pm Thu 8 Jan 09
Propercynic
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6:03pm Thu 8 Jan 09
Nikki Goff
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6:26pm Thu 8 Jan 09
Miles Sway
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6:48pm Thu 8 Jan 09
Nikki Goff wrote:Sadly, if you go to Dubai you'll realise how little they care about their own culture, let alone ours, when it comes to making money.
If the people who purchased this ship have any personal honour,(don't they belong to a culture where honour is everything?) they will treat it with respect.
Yes it might be 'just a lump of metal' to some but it has been in it's day a historic British icon of huge significance.
I'm pig sick of seeing our maritime heritage being treated with such disrespect
southy
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8:11pm Thu 8 Jan 09
Miles Sway wrote:what made the qe2 name was the ship before her qe1, any way with luck the old queen msry might be back in the uk before 2012, things are starting to go well over in cali for her return back to our shores.
Nikki Goff wrote:Sadly, if you go to Dubai you'll realise how little they care about their own culture, let alone ours, when it comes to making money.
If the people who purchased this ship have any personal honour,(don't they belong to a culture where honour is everything?) they will treat it with respect.
Yes it might be 'just a lump of metal' to some but it has been in it's day a historic British icon of huge significance.
I'm pig sick of seeing our maritime heritage being treated with such disrespect
It would have been wonderful for QE2 to stay in the UK, put her on the Thames for 2012 etc, but money talks and the Arabs have got a lot of it right now.
fuzzyfelt
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8:31pm Thu 8 Jan 09
Miles Sway
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8:50pm Thu 8 Jan 09
southy wrote:I can't see it happening Southy but the cost would be lost considering the overall budget for the Olympics, and what a showpiece it'd make.
Miles Sway wrote:what made the qe2 name was the ship before her qe1, any way with luck the old queen msry might be back in the uk before 2012, things are starting to go well over in cali for her return back to our shores.
Nikki Goff wrote:Sadly, if you go to Dubai you'll realise how little they care about their own culture, let alone ours, when it comes to making money.
If the people who purchased this ship have any personal honour,(don't they belong to a culture where honour is everything?) they will treat it with respect.
Yes it might be 'just a lump of metal' to some but it has been in it's day a historic British icon of huge significance.
I'm pig sick of seeing our maritime heritage being treated with such disrespect
It would have been wonderful for QE2 to stay in the UK, put her on the Thames for 2012 etc, but money talks and the Arabs have got a lot of it right now.
10 Minute Man
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9:36pm Thu 8 Jan 09
timster
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9:49pm Thu 8 Jan 09
IanRRR
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11:50pm Thu 8 Jan 09
Nikki Goff
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9:51am Fri 9 Jan 09
southy
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11:54am Fri 9 Jan 09
Miles Sway wrote:like i said miles, there is a very good chance of the old mary (QM1), coming back,so far to date a price has been agreed, and the money has been raised all ready.only problem thats stopping it happening at the moment is, the company that owns the QM1 owes money over the car park and other bits of land around the ship, and is a matter for the usa courts, and this is all that is slowing it down, cant do any thing till the usa court decision
southy wrote:I can't see it happening Southy but the cost would be lost considering the overall budget for the Olympics, and what a showpiece it'd make.
Miles Sway wrote:what made the qe2 name was the ship before her qe1, any way with luck the old queen msry might be back in the uk before 2012, things are starting to go well over in cali for her return back to our shores.
Nikki Goff wrote:Sadly, if you go to Dubai you'll realise how little they care about their own culture, let alone ours, when it comes to making money.
If the people who purchased this ship have any personal honour,(don't they belong to a culture where honour is everything?) they will treat it with respect.
Yes it might be 'just a lump of metal' to some but it has been in it's day a historic British icon of huge significance.
I'm pig sick of seeing our maritime heritage being treated with such disrespect
It would have been wonderful for QE2 to stay in the UK, put her on the Thames for 2012 etc, but money talks and the Arabs have got a lot of it right now.
The UK's been letting the family silver go overseas for too long; it's time we kept some here or well end up with nothing we can proudly call British
10 Minute Man
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1:02pm Fri 9 Jan 09
Nikki Goff wrote:
One of the projects I'm involved in, is that I'm a fundraiser and researcher for the SS Nomadic project, and we have just instituted a proper conservation management plan assessment for the ship.With my thumb very much on my nose ;]
I suggest that the management of the QE2 do the same.
Southampton Cruiser
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1:41pm Fri 9 Jan 09
southy
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9:44pm Fri 9 Jan 09
Ross Burnside
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12:50pm Sat 10 Jan 09
southy
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1:48pm Sat 10 Jan 09
mollie
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8:56pm Wed 28 Jan 09
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