SeaCity Museum officially opened (From Daily Echo)

A Fantastic and Momentous occasion for the City of Southampton! Excellent!

There's a woman at the helm, no wonder it hit an iceberg. She was probably doing her nails.

George4th wrote:
A Fantastic and Momentous occasion for the City of Southampton! Excellent!

here here

henry2* wrote:

George4th wrote:
A Fantastic and Momentous occasion for the City of Southampton! Excellent!

here here

...and then the children were all turned away. It would have made sense if they had at least been allowed into the museum after they had served their purpose of publicising the opening!

Also, is a sea of confetti suitable for a commemoration?

Like the Titanic's voyage, it's all down hill from here! I can't ever see this attracting the visitor numbers the council keep promising, not counting free resident visitors.

owen_thesaints wrote:

henry2* wrote:

George4th wrote:
A Fantastic and Momentous occasion for the City of Southampton! Excellent!

here here

...and then the children were all turned away. It would have made sense if they had at least been allowed into the museum after they had served their purpose of publicising the opening!

Also, is a sea of confetti suitable for a commemoration?

Like the Titanic's voyage, it's all down hill from here! I can't ever see this attracting the visitor numbers the council keep promising, not counting free resident visitors.

That many children in one go?! The children of Southampton have a free ticket to the Museum.
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Confetti - it was to celebrate the opening of The SeaCity Museum which is a Museum built to celebrate the Seafaring History of Southampton.
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The Museum will be a success. It is ideally placed and will serve to attract the friends and family of those living in and around Southampton, and the visitors from all over the UK, and all the tourists who pass through Southampton. With all the other projects in train, the City of Southampton will be a place worth visiting and should be embraced by all who live in Southampton.

George4th wrote:

owen_thesaints wrote:

henry2* wrote:

George4th wrote: A Fantastic and Momentous occasion for the City of Southampton! Excellent!

here here

...and then the children were all turned away. It would have made sense if they had at least been allowed into the museum after they had served their purpose of publicising the opening! Also, is a sea of confetti suitable for a commemoration? Like the Titanic's voyage, it's all down hill from here! I can't ever see this attracting the visitor numbers the council keep promising, not counting free resident visitors.

That many children in one go?! The children of Southampton have a free ticket to the Museum. > Confetti - it was to celebrate the opening of The SeaCity Museum which is a Museum built to celebrate the Seafaring History of Southampton. > The Museum will be a success. It is ideally placed and will serve to attract the friends and family of those living in and around Southampton, and the visitors from all over the UK, and all the tourists who pass through Southampton. With all the other projects in train, the City of Southampton will be a place worth visiting and should be embraced by all who live in Southampton.

Well said! I am getting increasingly fed up with the negativity of a small minority of this great city.

Its £8.50 per adult for entry. As I am unemployed and my wife disabled how are we able to afford such a luxury. My poor 1 year old will have to make do with the park outside. Well, the memorial is always worth a visit.

George4th wrote:

owen_thesaints wrote:

henry2* wrote:

George4th wrote:
A Fantastic and Momentous occasion for the City of Southampton! Excellent!

here here

...and then the children were all turned away. It would have made sense if they had at least been allowed into the museum after they had served their purpose of publicising the opening!

Also, is a sea of confetti suitable for a commemoration?

Like the Titanic's voyage, it's all down hill from here! I can't ever see this attracting the visitor numbers the council keep promising, not counting free resident visitors.

That many children in one go?! The children of Southampton have a free ticket to the Museum.
>
Confetti - it was to celebrate the opening of The SeaCity Museum which is a Museum built to celebrate the Seafaring History of Southampton.
>
The Museum will be a success. It is ideally placed and will serve to attract the friends and family of those living in and around Southampton, and the visitors from all over the UK, and all the tourists who pass through Southampton. With all the other projects in train, the City of Southampton will be a place worth visiting and should be embraced by all who live in Southampton.

"That many children in one go?! The children of Southampton have a free ticket to the Museum."
Surely it should accommodate most of them. And yes, the children of Soutampton have a free ticket that cannot be used in school holidays. When do you suggest they go?

owen_thesaints wrote:

George4th wrote:

owen_thesaints wrote:

henry2* wrote:

George4th wrote: A Fantastic and Momentous occasion for the City of Southampton! Excellent!

here here

...and then the children were all turned away. It would have made sense if they had at least been allowed into the museum after they had served their purpose of publicising the opening! Also, is a sea of confetti suitable for a commemoration? Like the Titanic's voyage, it's all down hill from here! I can't ever see this attracting the visitor numbers the council keep promising, not counting free resident visitors.

That many children in one go?! The children of Southampton have a free ticket to the Museum. > Confetti - it was to celebrate the opening of The SeaCity Museum which is a Museum built to celebrate the Seafaring History of Southampton. > The Museum will be a success. It is ideally placed and will serve to attract the friends and family of those living in and around Southampton, and the visitors from all over the UK, and all the tourists who pass through Southampton. With all the other projects in train, the City of Southampton will be a place worth visiting and should be embraced by all who live in Southampton.

"That many children in one go?! The children of Southampton have a free ticket to the Museum." Surely it should accommodate most of them. And yes, the children of Soutampton have a free ticket that cannot be used in school holidays. When do you suggest they go?

Weekends?

Pollocks wrote:
Its £8.50 per adult for entry. As I am unemployed and my wife disabled how are we able to afford such a luxury. My poor 1 year old will have to make do with the park outside. Well, the memorial is always worth a visit.

I bet you still have a nice car, comfortbale house, nice TV, DVD player, nice clothes and a take a way twice a week? Maybe cut back on a couple of things for a week and save some money like the rest of us? If you really want to go then I'm sure you can find a way...

As a member of the Nuffield Youth Theatre, it was great be in costume and apart of the opening and something that really defines the City. Brilliant!

What a waste of taxpayers money. {Luckily I am on benefits so it does not effect me}.Why not build a Mosque that we can all use? well apart from you Infidel.

I for one cant wait for Sharia law to come in next year, so we can bulldoze it and close all the city centre pubs down.

Osama Bedlinen.

moulefanggoule wrote:

Pollocks wrote:
Its £8.50 per adult for entry. As I am unemployed and my wife disabled how are we able to afford such a luxury. My poor 1 year old will have to make do with the park outside. Well, the memorial is always worth a visit.

I bet you still have a nice car, comfortbale house, nice TV, DVD player, nice clothes and a take a way twice a week? Maybe cut back on a couple of things for a week and save some money like the rest of us? If you really want to go then I'm sure you can find a way...

Actually, I go without most of those things you mention. Lucky for me though I have a loving wife and a beautiful child which makes up for the shortfall, but i can't be on my own and I bet there are lots of people that would like to take there kids to the museum if only they could afford it.

Pollocks wrote:

moulefanggoule wrote:

Pollocks wrote:
Its £8.50 per adult for entry. As I am unemployed and my wife disabled how are we able to afford such a luxury. My poor 1 year old will have to make do with the park outside. Well, the memorial is always worth a visit.

I bet you still have a nice car, comfortbale house, nice TV, DVD player, nice clothes and a take a way twice a week? Maybe cut back on a couple of things for a week and save some money like the rest of us? If you really want to go then I'm sure you can find a way...

Actually, I go without most of those things you mention. Lucky for me though I have a loving wife and a beautiful child which makes up for the shortfall, but i can't be on my own and I bet there are lots of people that would like to take there kids to the museum if only they could afford it.

Surely like most things if your on benefits you can get a reduced rate or go in for free?
Why not contact the museum & see what they say?

shambolic waste of public money. 15m could have been the ice rink we have been craving for years, improvements to parks, cleaning up, providing facilities for youngsters (im sorry no kid will go to a museum unless dragged by a parent or on a school trip)

And as for the so called free tickets, lots of us havn't ever recieved these and what happens when you phone up?

you get told that they are not reissuing them!

why not have something which everybody can use or relate to?

My council tax has been wasted on yet another elitist pursuit, arts quarters and museums are a joke. instead of trying to attract people to the city centre how about we offer improvements to those people who have paid thousands in tax over the years in their own neighbourhoods.

How many residents would have preferred better improvements to local facilities?

maybe a swimming pool, youth centres, ice rinks, improvements to the municipal golf course, improvements to the sports centre, repairing the derilict areas of the city.

It was nice to see a picture of my great grandad Walter Hurst on oneof the placards carried by children today. It would've been even nicer if that placard could've been carried by one of his direct descendants (of which there are plenty including several children still in the Southampton area) rather than a random individual.

drfunbags wrote:
shambolic waste of public money. 15m could have been the ice rink we have been craving for years, improvements to parks, cleaning up, providing facilities for youngsters (im sorry no kid will go to a museum unless dragged by a parent or on a school trip)

And as for the so called free tickets, lots of us havn't ever recieved these and what happens when you phone up?

you get told that they are not reissuing them!

why not have something which everybody can use or relate to?

My council tax has been wasted on yet another elitist pursuit, arts quarters and museums are a joke. instead of trying to attract people to the city centre how about we offer improvements to those people who have paid thousands in tax over the years in their own neighbourhoods.

How many residents would have preferred better improvements to local facilities?

maybe a swimming pool, youth centres, ice rinks, improvements to the municipal golf course, improvements to the sports centre, repairing the derilict areas of the city.

Yesv we've all been crying for a bl==dy Ice rink haven't we?
Try reading these pages there are as many if not more against an Ice Rink as opposed to the museum.
I saw it on the Telly & unlike you I felt proud in my city.
Why don't you join your anti elitist mate & get in amongst the oars ( pity he wasn't injured by them) & end up in knick .people like you make me sick I'm proud of my cities history & this museum.
Also I went to the Ice Rink every weekend three nights ( Fri,Sat & Sunday) it was never full & some days virtually dead so why do people like you bang on about it?

loosehead wrote:

drfunbags wrote: shambolic waste of public money. 15m could have been the ice rink we have been craving for years, improvements to parks, cleaning up, providing facilities for youngsters (im sorry no kid will go to a museum unless dragged by a parent or on a school trip) And as for the so called free tickets, lots of us havn't ever recieved these and what happens when you phone up? you get told that they are not reissuing them! why not have something which everybody can use or relate to? My council tax has been wasted on yet another elitist pursuit, arts quarters and museums are a joke. instead of trying to attract people to the city centre how about we offer improvements to those people who have paid thousands in tax over the years in their own neighbourhoods. How many residents would have preferred better improvements to local facilities? maybe a swimming pool, youth centres, ice rinks, improvements to the municipal golf course, improvements to the sports centre, repairing the derilict areas of the city.

Yesv we've all been crying for a bl==dy Ice rink haven't we? Try reading these pages there are as many if not more against an Ice Rink as opposed to the museum. I saw it on the Telly & unlike you I felt proud in my city. Why don't you join your anti elitist mate & get in amongst the oars ( pity he wasn't injured by them) & end up in knick .people like you make me sick I'm proud of my cities history & this museum. Also I went to the Ice Rink every weekend three nights ( Fri,Sat & Sunday) it was never full & some days virtually dead so why do people like you bang on about it?

dont talk to me about being "proud of my city" you mug. How am I not proud simply because I refuse to swallow the rubbish which is force fed us on a daily basis?

I am massively proud of southampton, the multiculturalism, the variety in people and places, my football team, my local area where i gre up, the people I know, my family and freinds, but that doesnt mean i cant see things which are far more important to the residents of the city than a musuem which nobody that I know asked for.

"Why don't you join your anti elitist mate & get in amongst the oars ( pity he wasn't injured by them)"

To wish pain on somebody simply becuase they have ideas or opinions which differ from you clearly show you up for the moron you are.

when you can construct a decent arguement nipper Ill be waiting...

Pollocks wrote:

moulefanggoule wrote:

Pollocks wrote: Its £8.50 per adult for entry. As I am unemployed and my wife disabled how are we able to afford such a luxury. My poor 1 year old will have to make do with the park outside. Well, the memorial is always worth a visit.

I bet you still have a nice car, comfortbale house, nice TV, DVD player, nice clothes and a take a way twice a week? Maybe cut back on a couple of things for a week and save some money like the rest of us? If you really want to go then I'm sure you can find a way...

Actually, I go without most of those things you mention. Lucky for me though I have a loving wife and a beautiful child which makes up for the shortfall, but i can't be on my own and I bet there are lots of people that would like to take there kids to the museum if only they could afford it.

Its like saying i cant afford to go to Disney World. Its a shame but not everything can be free and affordable.
I sympathise with your situation but hopefully it is motivation to find work and acheive and income that means you can enjoy things other have to work to pay for.
Cant just feel sorry for yourself and moan that your missing out and its a level playing field for everyone...

drfunbags wrote:
shambolic waste of public money. 15m could have been the ice rink we have been craving for years, improvements to parks, cleaning up, providing facilities for youngsters (im sorry no kid will go to a museum unless dragged by a parent or on a school trip) And as for the so called free tickets, lots of us havn't ever recieved these and what happens when you phone up? you get told that they are not reissuing them! why not have something which everybody can use or relate to? My council tax has been wasted on yet another elitist pursuit, arts quarters and museums are a joke. instead of trying to attract people to the city centre how about we offer improvements to those people who have paid thousands in tax over the years in their own neighbourhoods. How many residents would have preferred better improvements to local facilities? maybe a swimming pool, youth centres, ice rinks, improvements to the municipal golf course, improvements to the sports centre, repairing the derilict areas of the city.

What are you banging on about. No-one wants an ice rink! We had one at Christmas a couple of years ago (a time of year you'd expect it to be popular) and it lost £1,000's!

This is an attraction that celebrates one of the things our city is most famous for - its maritime heratige. It also commemorates a tradegy that (whether you like it or not) is a multi billion pound legacy. People will come from far and wide to the visit a Titanic exhibition, in what is considered the home of Titanic (regardless of it being built in belfast and named in Liverpool)

..by the way, have you been to london where the Natural History museum and Science Museum are jam packed 364 days a year!...

This will generate many thousands of pounds for our city that might then be spent on the city projects you mentioned.

who knows - you might one day get an ice rink so you can visit it with the other 4 people who want it...

What a great project for our City as it continues to renovate.
This great City has much to be proud of and we are streets ahead of the Cities around us in terms of facilities.

I'm glad we are creating facilities to celebrate something we are famed for and should be proud of. I cant wait to visit.

benkirk78 wrote:

Pollocks wrote:

moulefanggoule wrote:

Pollocks wrote: Its £8.50 per adult for entry. As I am unemployed and my wife disabled how are we able to afford such a luxury. My poor 1 year old will have to make do with the park outside. Well, the memorial is always worth a visit.

I bet you still have a nice car, comfortbale house, nice TV, DVD player, nice clothes and a take a way twice a week? Maybe cut back on a couple of things for a week and save some money like the rest of us? If you really want to go then I'm sure you can find a way...

Actually, I go without most of those things you mention. Lucky for me though I have a loving wife and a beautiful child which makes up for the shortfall, but i can't be on my own and I bet there are lots of people that would like to take there kids to the museum if only they could afford it.

Its like saying i cant afford to go to Disney World. Its a shame but not everything can be free and affordable. I sympathise with your situation but hopefully it is motivation to find work and acheive and income that means you can enjoy things other have to work to pay for. Cant just feel sorry for yourself and moan that your missing out and its a level playing field for everyone...

You're a bit out of touch - "motivation to find work and achieve" is no guarantee of a job these days.

drfunbags wrote:
shambolic waste of public money. 15m could have been the ice rink we have been craving for years, improvements to parks, cleaning up, providing facilities for youngsters (im sorry no kid will go to a museum unless dragged by a parent or on a school trip)

And as for the so called free tickets, lots of us havn't ever recieved these and what happens when you phone up?

you get told that they are not reissuing them!

why not have something which everybody can use or relate to?

My council tax has been wasted on yet another elitist pursuit, arts quarters and museums are a joke. instead of trying to attract people to the city centre how about we offer improvements to those people who have paid thousands in tax over the years in their own neighbourhoods.

How many residents would have preferred better improvements to local facilities?

maybe a swimming pool, youth centres, ice rinks, improvements to the municipal golf course, improvements to the sports centre, repairing the derilict areas of the city.

"shambolic waste of public money" No! The shambolic waste of public money occurred in the preceding 25years of this current council! - No Investment, No Planning, No Idea!!!
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The SeaCity Museum is the best thing that has happened in the City of Southampton for many years - you should be celebrating it rather than dissing it.
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And there are many more plans for the future - look at the SCC website - amazing projects!

People who moan about not having an ice rink GET OVER IT. Will you ever use it? I work in a local school who took part in the parade today and was very proud to be a part of history.

What some Tory posters will try to do is convince us that the only party that did anything in this city was the Tories.
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WRONG
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Many of the plans, visions and projects that are coming together now have been in the planning, cost evaluation stages for some years .... since 2004 when they were part of the City's 20/20 vision.
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The ideas have just been carried through meeting their fruition under this Tory council.
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Creativity is not the Tory strong point ....... Employment distruction is

Pollocks wrote:

moulefanggoule wrote:

Pollocks wrote:
Its £8.50 per adult for entry. As I am unemployed and my wife disabled how are we able to afford such a luxury. My poor 1 year old will have to make do with the park outside. Well, the memorial is always worth a visit.

I bet you still have a nice car, comfortbale house, nice TV, DVD player, nice clothes and a take a way twice a week? Maybe cut back on a couple of things for a week and save some money like the rest of us? If you really want to go then I'm sure you can find a way...

Actually, I go without most of those things you mention. Lucky for me though I have a loving wife and a beautiful child which makes up for the shortfall, but i can't be on my own and I bet there are lots of people that would like to take there kids to the museum if only they could afford it.

If you live in southampton you will get a free ticket, children under 5 go free anyway. Hopefully by the time your 1yr old is able to appreciate the significance of the museum you will have found a job.

Josley94 wrote:
As a member of the Nuffield Youth Theatre, it was great be in costume and apart of the opening and something that really defines the City. Brilliant!

I would like to thank you and all the other members for making it such a momentous occasion, you all looked wonderful.

Hamwic wrote:
It was nice to see a picture of my great grandad Walter Hurst on oneof the placards carried by children today. It would've been even nicer if that placard could've been carried by one of his direct descendants (of which there are plenty including several children still in the Southampton area) rather than a random individual.

how very nice to hear you refer to one of Southamptons children who have researched your descendant and then gave up a day of their school holidays as a 'random individual'.
You could of course have contacted the council to ask them if one of your several young relations with a direct connection could have carried the placard, where any of them there??

George4th wrote:

drfunbags wrote:
shambolic waste of public money. 15m could have been the ice rink we have been craving for years, improvements to parks, cleaning up, providing facilities for youngsters (im sorry no kid will go to a museum unless dragged by a parent or on a school trip)

And as for the so called free tickets, lots of us havn't ever recieved these and what happens when you phone up?

you get told that they are not reissuing them!

why not have something which everybody can use or relate to?

My council tax has been wasted on yet another elitist pursuit, arts quarters and museums are a joke. instead of trying to attract people to the city centre how about we offer improvements to those people who have paid thousands in tax over the years in their own neighbourhoods.

How many residents would have preferred better improvements to local facilities?

maybe a swimming pool, youth centres, ice rinks, improvements to the municipal golf course, improvements to the sports centre, repairing the derilict areas of the city.

"shambolic waste of public money" No! The shambolic waste of public money occurred in the preceding 25years of this current council! - No Investment, No Planning, No Idea!!!
>
The SeaCity Museum is the best thing that has happened in the City of Southampton for many years - you should be celebrating it rather than dissing it.
>
And there are many more plans for the future - look at the SCC website - amazing projects!

Try another line George, you use this one on nearly every post. Deja vu on deja vu!!

Holy cow,

If some of you could see what you write......ya'll really need to get out more, :))))

benkirk78 wrote:

drfunbags wrote:
shambolic waste of public money. 15m could have been the ice rink we have been craving for years, improvements to parks, cleaning up, providing facilities for youngsters (im sorry no kid will go to a museum unless dragged by a parent or on a school trip) And as for the so called free tickets, lots of us havn't ever recieved these and what happens when you phone up? you get told that they are not reissuing them! why not have something which everybody can use or relate to? My council tax has been wasted on yet another elitist pursuit, arts quarters and museums are a joke. instead of trying to attract people to the city centre how about we offer improvements to those people who have paid thousands in tax over the years in their own neighbourhoods. How many residents would have preferred better improvements to local facilities? maybe a swimming pool, youth centres, ice rinks, improvements to the municipal golf course, improvements to the sports centre, repairing the derilict areas of the city.

What are you banging on about. No-one wants an ice rink! We had one at Christmas a couple of years ago (a time of year you'd expect it to be popular) and it lost £1,000's!

This is an attraction that celebrates one of the things our city is most famous for - its maritime heratige. It also commemorates a tradegy that (whether you like it or not) is a multi billion pound legacy. People will come from far and wide to the visit a Titanic exhibition, in what is considered the home of Titanic (regardless of it being built in belfast and named in Liverpool)

..by the way, have you been to london where the Natural History museum and Science Museum are jam packed 364 days a year!...

This will generate many thousands of pounds for our city that might then be spent on the city projects you mentioned.

who knows - you might one day get an ice rink so you can visit it with the other 4 people who want it...

I appreciate not every body would want an ice rink but if you read on you would see it wasn't the only suggestion I put forward.

My point is that the money could of been spent on something inclusive for all (which a museum isnt) which would have benefited the community. The fact is simply becuase the titanic visited us once is this a justifiable way to spend public money? The whole planning of the museum was to coincide with the anniversary but what then? A few pictures of some dock cranes and a couple of merchant ships? People bang on about the maritime heritage but when it comes down to it we cannot touch Portsmouth for history in that field. So why try to compete?

I accept that museums generate footfall (although im sure that the NHM and NSM are free to enter which would go a long way to keeping attendances up) unlike some of the cretins posting above I am not a fool, but what benefit is footfall away from the major commercial areas? What benefit is there to the people of southampton other than another museum that will barely be used? We have art galleries which are never used by the vast majority of southamptonites (i have just asked three people if they even knew there was a gallery in the bargate and they looked at me like i was mad!!)

I do not disagree that history is important, but is it appropriate in this day and age to build a £15m museum while kids roll around in dogs mess becuase we cant afford to keep our parks and recreation grounds clean? Is it appropriate to spend £15m on a new museum when we could easily make improvements to the sport centre which benefit thousands of users on weekly basis? Is it appropriate to spend £15m on a museum when this council is cutting help for the elderly, sick and disabled?

My belief is that it is not.

Sorry if that conflicts with yours.

owen_thesaints wrote:

henry2* wrote:

George4th wrote: A Fantastic and Momentous occasion for the City of Southampton! Excellent!

here here

...and then the children were all turned away. It would have made sense if they had at least been allowed into the museum after they had served their purpose of publicising the opening! Also, is a sea of confetti suitable for a commemoration? Like the Titanic's voyage, it's all down hill from here! I can't ever see this attracting the visitor numbers the council keep promising, not counting free resident visitors.

usual negativity from southampton people

Maine Lobster wrote:

George4th wrote:

drfunbags wrote:
shambolic waste of public money. 15m could have been the ice rink we have been craving for years, improvements to parks, cleaning up, providing facilities for youngsters (im sorry no kid will go to a museum unless dragged by a parent or on a school trip)

And as for the so called free tickets, lots of us havn't ever recieved these and what happens when you phone up?

you get told that they are not reissuing them!

why not have something which everybody can use or relate to?

My council tax has been wasted on yet another elitist pursuit, arts quarters and museums are a joke. instead of trying to attract people to the city centre how about we offer improvements to those people who have paid thousands in tax over the years in their own neighbourhoods.

How many residents would have preferred better improvements to local facilities?

maybe a swimming pool, youth centres, ice rinks, improvements to the municipal golf course, improvements to the sports centre, repairing the derilict areas of the city.

"shambolic waste of public money" No! The shambolic waste of public money occurred in the preceding 25years of this current council! - No Investment, No Planning, No Idea!!!
>
The SeaCity Museum is the best thing that has happened in the City of Southampton for many years - you should be celebrating it rather than dissing it.
>
And there are many more plans for the future - look at the SCC website - amazing projects!

Try another line George, you use this one on nearly every post. Deja vu on deja vu!!

Fancy a pint then?? Lol

drfunbags wrote:

loosehead wrote:

drfunbags wrote: shambolic waste of public money. 15m could have been the ice rink we have been craving for years, improvements to parks, cleaning up, providing facilities for youngsters (im sorry no kid will go to a museum unless dragged by a parent or on a school trip) And as for the so called free tickets, lots of us havn't ever recieved these and what happens when you phone up? you get told that they are not reissuing them! why not have something which everybody can use or relate to? My council tax has been wasted on yet another elitist pursuit, arts quarters and museums are a joke. instead of trying to attract people to the city centre how about we offer improvements to those people who have paid thousands in tax over the years in their own neighbourhoods. How many residents would have preferred better improvements to local facilities? maybe a swimming pool, youth centres, ice rinks, improvements to the municipal golf course, improvements to the sports centre, repairing the derilict areas of the city.

Yesv we've all been crying for a bl==dy Ice rink haven't we? Try reading these pages there are as many if not more against an Ice Rink as opposed to the museum. I saw it on the Telly & unlike you I felt proud in my city. Why don't you join your anti elitist mate & get in amongst the oars ( pity he wasn't injured by them) & end up in knick .people like you make me sick I'm proud of my cities history & this museum. Also I went to the Ice Rink every weekend three nights ( Fri,Sat & Sunday) it was never full & some days virtually dead so why do people like you bang on about it?

dont talk to me about being "proud of my city" you mug. How am I not proud simply because I refuse to swallow the rubbish which is force fed us on a daily basis?

I am massively proud of southampton, the multiculturalism, the variety in people and places, my football team, my local area where i gre up, the people I know, my family and freinds, but that doesnt mean i cant see things which are far more important to the residents of the city than a musuem which nobody that I know asked for.

"Why don't you join your anti elitist mate & get in amongst the oars ( pity he wasn't injured by them)"

To wish pain on somebody simply becuase they have ideas or opinions which differ from you clearly show you up for the moron you are.

when you can construct a decent arguement nipper Ill be waiting...

Agreed. They guy is a c ock

benkirk78 says...
"and its a level playing field for everyone..." mmm guaranteed to get some backs up.. like .."we're all in this together".

People's circumstances are SO different and reward is almost as random as luck.

But I'm glad the museum is seen in a positive light by many people. It's important to have things that make us proud. It's also important to have places that are accessible to all. I hope this Council will now give the same high profile to free-to-access facilities like libraries and the art gallery.

loosehead wrote:

Pollocks wrote:

moulefanggoule wrote:

Pollocks wrote:
Its £8.50 per adult for entry. As I am unemployed and my wife disabled how are we able to afford such a luxury. My poor 1 year old will have to make do with the park outside. Well, the memorial is always worth a visit.

I bet you still have a nice car, comfortbale house, nice TV, DVD player, nice clothes and a take a way twice a week? Maybe cut back on a couple of things for a week and save some money like the rest of us? If you really want to go then I'm sure you can find a way...

Actually, I go without most of those things you mention. Lucky for me though I have a loving wife and a beautiful child which makes up for the shortfall, but i can't be on my own and I bet there are lots of people that would like to take there kids to the museum if only they could afford it.

Surely like most things if your on benefits you can get a reduced rate or go in for free?
Why not contact the museum & see what they say?

Actually I did. That's the reason for my little outburst here. All I got in response was a very dry "Adults are £8.50 and children under 5 go free." For most working couples, this might seem a fair fee but for people like us it's totally out of the question.

My point is that a museum should be made accessible for all.

Nice to see a bit of ambition in the city but the ambitious 150,000 per annum visitors figures are dwarfed by similar museums. Liverpools Maritime Museum had over 1000,000 actual visitors

elvisimo wrote:

drfunbags wrote:

loosehead wrote:

drfunbags wrote: shambolic waste of public money. 15m could have been the ice rink we have been craving for years, improvements to parks, cleaning up, providing facilities for youngsters (im sorry no kid will go to a museum unless dragged by a parent or on a school trip) And as for the so called free tickets, lots of us havn't ever recieved these and what happens when you phone up? you get told that they are not reissuing them! why not have something which everybody can use or relate to? My council tax has been wasted on yet another elitist pursuit, arts quarters and museums are a joke. instead of trying to attract people to the city centre how about we offer improvements to those people who have paid thousands in tax over the years in their own neighbourhoods. How many residents would have preferred better improvements to local facilities? maybe a swimming pool, youth centres, ice rinks, improvements to the municipal golf course, improvements to the sports centre, repairing the derilict areas of the city.

Yesv we've all been crying for a bl==dy Ice rink haven't we? Try reading these pages there are as many if not more against an Ice Rink as opposed to the museum. I saw it on the Telly & unlike you I felt proud in my city. Why don't you join your anti elitist mate & get in amongst the oars ( pity he wasn't injured by them) & end up in knick .people like you make me sick I'm proud of my cities history & this museum. Also I went to the Ice Rink every weekend three nights ( Fri,Sat & Sunday) it was never full & some days virtually dead so why do people like you bang on about it?

dont talk to me about being "proud of my city" you mug. How am I not proud simply because I refuse to swallow the rubbish which is force fed us on a daily basis?

I am massively proud of southampton, the multiculturalism, the variety in people and places, my football team, my local area where i gre up, the people I know, my family and freinds, but that doesnt mean i cant see things which are far more important to the residents of the city than a musuem which nobody that I know asked for.

"Why don't you join your anti elitist mate & get in amongst the oars ( pity he wasn't injured by them)"

To wish pain on somebody simply becuase they have ideas or opinions which differ from you clearly show you up for the moron you are.

when you can construct a decent arguement nipper Ill be waiting...

Agreed. They guy is a c ock

I'm a c=ck am I? do you know me?
drfunbags This museum isn't just about the Titanic it's about our sea faring history.
I use to go to the Ice Rink.I've heard about the speedway that was before the cricket ground & the Top Rank complex.
These are gone & will not return.
They were all private companies & as you've seen the so called bringer of an Ice rink to St Mary's isn't he wants to build flats.
this council are actively trying to get a Snow Dome built on the council land Town Depot with which they're seeing if there's a possibility of a small Ice Rink.
they are actively trying to bring more to attract visitors & for residents to do.
I have read Unionists & Labour supporters saying the funding for the museum came from council workers wages which they know it didn't.
they say spend it on the parks but they also know that would be a one off.
This money was grant,selling off of an industrial estate that would have cost this city millions to update & fund raising
I never go to the art museum so what we should sell it all & close it?
I'm not a Football fan so did I agree with Labour spending millions finding a private company the land to build a stadium?
You bought up elitism.I personally feel people like that who go out of their way to destroy other peoples happiness & enjoyment are sc=m so if you don't like my reply tough.
ELVISIMO is your life so boring all you can do is call people c=ck? to say that to someone you've never met shows exactly what a low life you are

Did somebody say Southampton Speedway ? Ah wonderful ! The roar of the bikes, THAT smell, Duane Eddy pumping through the PA, Bjorn Knutsson, Barry Briggs, Bert Croucher, Ronnie Moore (Bellevue ?), Ove Fundin. Tuesday nights, I think. My dad used to take me - I was nine. The little orange star-shaped badges - I had one of Ronnie Moore.

Stuff the museum and the ice rink ! Bring back the speedway !

did anybody notice that Wikipedias entry regarding Godwin's law has now been updated? It now reads; As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Ice Rinks in Southampton, Nazis or Hitler approaches

Pollocks wrote:
Its £8.50 per adult for entry. As I am unemployed and my wife disabled how are we able to afford such a luxury. My poor 1 year old will have to make do with the park outside. Well, the memorial is always worth a visit.

Most people I know who are unemployed with children could easily afford 8.50...disabilty allowance you say too?!? Hmmm, sounds like another moaner to me. Ffs, this museum IS what this city needs, and those harping on about it being for non city residents...wake up will you. Its great we can hav an attraction like this

George4th wrote:

owen_thesaints wrote:

henry2* wrote:

George4th wrote:
A Fantastic and Momentous occasion for the City of Southampton! Excellent!

here here

...and then the children were all turned away. It would have made sense if they had at least been allowed into the museum after they had served their purpose of publicising the opening!

Also, is a sea of confetti suitable for a commemoration?

Like the Titanic's voyage, it's all down hill from here! I can't ever see this attracting the visitor numbers the council keep promising, not counting free resident visitors.

That many children in one go?! The children of Southampton have a free ticket to the Museum.
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Confetti - it was to celebrate the opening of The SeaCity Museum which is a Museum built to celebrate the Seafaring History of Southampton.
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The Museum will be a success. It is ideally placed and will serve to attract the friends and family of those living in and around Southampton, and the visitors from all over the UK, and all the tourists who pass through Southampton. With all the other projects in train, the City of Southampton will be a place worth visiting and should be embraced by all who live in Southampton.

im from southampton but live in staffordshire so when i visit my family i will take my daughter there so she can learn our history!!!!!!

i will be taking my daughter there to visit so she can see some of out history and for an 11 year old she loves history and always wants to walk round the bargate and walls and asks questions to learn our southern history which is good as she was born in nottinghamshire so im sure sshe will enjoy the new museium !!!!!

drfunbags wrote:
shambolic waste of public money. 15m could have been the ice rink we have been craving for years, improvements to parks, cleaning up, providing facilities for youngsters (im sorry no kid will go to a museum unless dragged by a parent or on a school trip)

And as for the so called free tickets, lots of us havn't ever recieved these and what happens when you phone up?

you get told that they are not reissuing them!

why not have something which everybody can use or relate to?

My council tax has been wasted on yet another elitist pursuit, arts quarters and museums are a joke. instead of trying to attract people to the city centre how about we offer improvements to those people who have paid thousands in tax over the years in their own neighbourhoods.

How many residents would have preferred better improvements to local facilities?

maybe a swimming pool, youth centres, ice rinks, improvements to the municipal golf course, improvements to the sports centre, repairing the derilict areas of the city.

How many casinos did you say there are in Southampton?

So, the city supports some high rollers eh?

But...........as quoted

"How many residents would have preferred better improvements to local facilities? maybe a swimming pool, youth centres, ice rinks, improvements to the municipal golf course, improvements to the sports centre, repairing the derilict areas of the city."

You are absolutely spot on- Southampton supports the start of grandiose projects, but ignores the rest- like the shabby looking aviation museum-
Shipping and aviation are a magnificent legacy that is dismissed at a stroke!

vickyashley27 wrote:
i will be taking my daughter there to visit so she can see some of out history and for an 11 year old she loves history and always wants to walk round the bargate and walls and asks questions to learn our southern history which is good as she was born in nottinghamshire so im sure sshe will enjoy the new museium !!!!!

vicky, have you taken her to the renovated tudor house museum yet, she will love it, and you can get a combined ticket to visit both.I am sure you and your daughter have already read some of the 'my story' childrens history books. There is one about the titanic, my grandchildren loved it.
Enjoy your visit.

work-on wrote:
benkirk78 says... "and its a level playing field for everyone..." mmm guaranteed to get some backs up.. like .."we're all in this together". People's circumstances are SO different and reward is almost as random as luck. But I'm glad the museum is seen in a positive light by many people. It's important to have things that make us proud. It's also important to have places that are accessible to all. I hope this Council will now give the same high profile to free-to-access facilities like libraries and the art gallery.

I had a child at 17yrs old, never went to college or uni and worked long days for £3.50 an hour when i was starting out.
I couldve sat at home on a playstation collecting benefits but chose not to.

I know earn over £45k in a large well known organisation because i chose to work hard. My wife did the same and now at 32 & 33 we make a very comforatble living.

Its nothing like "we're all in this together" i'm just frustrated to see people moaning becuase they cant afford to go and do things that cost money. Well, I'm sorry, thats the way of the World so if you want to be able to do things that cost money make a start at earning a living.

The job centres have 1,000's of jobs listed - there are many people who cant work that simply choose not to because they dont want the jobs on offer.

Reward is not as random as luck (stupid statement by the way). Reward is for people that work hard to acheive it.

BillyTheKid wrote:
Did somebody say Southampton Speedway ? Ah wonderful ! The roar of the bikes, THAT smell, Duane Eddy pumping through the PA, Bjorn Knutsson, Barry Briggs, Bert Croucher, Ronnie Moore (Bellevue ?), Ove Fundin. Tuesday nights, I think. My dad used to take me - I was nine. The little orange star-shaped badges - I had one of Ronnie Moore.

Stuff the museum and the ice rink ! Bring back the speedway !

Billy they all bang on about an Ice Rink but forget that the speedway went to be replaced by a dance hall(disco) & an Ice Rink plus a cricket ground how many people went mad about that?
They also forget the Lido,Go Kart track & more.
they say dilapidated areas well if they take pride in their city maybe these areas wouldn't be dilapidated?
as for the Aviation museum I didn't even know it was there & maybe a few volunteers could help spruce it up?

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vickyashley27 wrote:
i will be taking my daughter there to visit so she can see some of out history and for an 11 year old she loves history and always wants to walk round the bargate and walls and asks questions to learn our southern history which is good as she was born in nottinghamshire so im sure sshe will enjoy the new museium !!!!!

Excellent. Jolly good. But...er...how can I put this ? Do help your daughter with her history, but um.......leave writing, spelling, puntuation, grammar - all that sort of thing -to someone else, eh ? Not your thing, is it ?

Gawd ! It's infectious ! Actually, "puntuation" sounds like it could be a very useful new word ! But I meant "punkchewayshun", didn't I ? Oi fink......

billy,

do you need to borrow a cloth to wipe that egg of your face mate? lol

Benkirk78 fanned the flames with ... "Reward is not as random as luck (stupid statement by the way)."

So you are happy with bankers' bonuses then?

Reward is not fair. It varies according to political will and public values. In Britain we now have greater unfairness of reward than we have seen for decades and far greater polarity of pay than many other nations.

I too have a strong work ethic. However a long life has shown me that there are certain attributes rewarded above others. Some of these are the least pleasant traits, like conceit and self assertion, rather than the qualities we really need for a harmonious society.


"stupid" is a very personal and offensive response from you and might confirm my opinion.

benkirk78 wrote:

work-on wrote:
benkirk78 says... "and its a level playing field for everyone..." mmm guaranteed to get some backs up.. like .."we're all in this together". People's circumstances are SO different and reward is almost as random as luck. But I'm glad the museum is seen in a positive light by many people. It's important to have things that make us proud. It's also important to have places that are accessible to all. I hope this Council will now give the same high profile to free-to-access facilities like libraries and the art gallery.

I had a child at 17yrs old, never went to college or uni and worked long days for £3.50 an hour when i was starting out.
I couldve sat at home on a playstation collecting benefits but chose not to.

I know earn over £45k in a large well known organisation because i chose to work hard. My wife did the same and now at 32 & 33 we make a very comforatble living.

Its nothing like "we're all in this together" i'm just frustrated to see people moaning becuase they cant afford to go and do things that cost money. Well, I'm sorry, thats the way of the World so if you want to be able to do things that cost money make a start at earning a living.

The job centres have 1,000's of jobs listed - there are many people who cant work that simply choose not to because they dont want the jobs on offer.

Reward is not as random as luck (stupid statement by the way). Reward is for people that work hard to acheive it.

Ah , so you wash cars at Tesco/ have a team to do it for you?

You have a window cleaning contract then, or a line in scrap metal.

Very good for you to be comfortable perhaps on the black economy?

drfunbags wrote:
billy,

do you need to borrow a cloth to wipe that egg of your face mate? lol

have you tried to find out about the snowdome?
have a look into the plans for the future document which outlines this councils plans for this city I think you'll be surprised

pod wrote:

vickyashley27 wrote:
i will be taking my daughter there to visit so she can see some of out history and for an 11 year old she loves history and always wants to walk round the bargate and walls and asks questions to learn our southern history which is good as she was born in nottinghamshire so im sure sshe will enjoy the new museium !!!!!

vicky, have you taken her to the renovated tudor house museum yet, she will love it, and you can get a combined ticket to visit both.I am sure you and your daughter have already read some of the 'my story' childrens history books. There is one about the titanic, my grandchildren loved it.
Enjoy your visit.

no not yet as i live in staffordshire and only get down once a year but thanks for that information i will look into it

vickyashley27 wrote:

pod wrote:

vickyashley27 wrote:
i will be taking my daughter there to visit so she can see some of out history and for an 11 year old she loves history and always wants to walk round the bargate and walls and asks questions to learn our southern history which is good as she was born in nottinghamshire so im sure sshe will enjoy the new museium !!!!!

vicky, have you taken her to the renovated tudor house museum yet, she will love it, and you can get a combined ticket to visit both.I am sure you and your daughter have already read some of the 'my story' childrens history books. There is one about the titanic, my grandchildren loved it.
Enjoy your visit.

no not yet as i live in staffordshire and only get down once a year but thanks for that information i will look into it

I know it's a pub but the landlord is more than willing to show people around it.
the Red Lion at the bottom of town is a place where Henry the XIII stayed & is a very old building.
just an idea for your visit!

Hamwic wrote:
It was nice to see a picture of my great grandad Walter Hurst on oneof the placards carried by children today. It would've been even nicer if that placard could've been carried by one of his direct descendants (of which there are plenty including several children still in the Southampton area) rather than a random individual.

..as it was, the picture WAS carried by a direct decendant - Wally's great, great grandson. William Mintram's g.g.g granddaughters carried his memorial. Three generations of decendants where there on Tuesday. And all credit to the children of Southampton for turning up in their holidays to remember what happened many years back, to people some have no connection with.

How nice, days after the opening ceremony, to see all the aforementioned 'confetti' (which looks like plastic by the way) still blowing about all over the flowerbeds surrounding the museum! It really adds to the appearance of the expensive building. Whose brilliant idea was that? Then again, littering seems to be a hugely popular pastime in this city, so I expect I'm the only person who has noticed it.