Pub blaze drama (From Daily Echo)

Glad everyone is safe.
Also glad the appliances were able to reach the pub through the narrow roads, with cars parked either side.
It's bad enough trying to get a car down there some days.

Costa Baz wrote:
Glad everyone is safe.
Also glad the appliances were able to reach the pub through the narrow roads, with cars parked either side.
It's bad enough trying to get a car down there some days.

Totally agree with the above post- saw a fire engine having to reverse up Priory Rd last week as it couldn't get through due to parked cars - makes me mad!! Glad that no one was hurt at the Junction fire.

It's amazing how many fires occur in pubs.

Brite Spark wrote:
It's amazing how many fires occur in pubs.

Well if you have a theory, as to why so many fires occur in pubs, let me know what it is and I'll ask my brother if that is what happened at his pub, Saturday evening?

Hope the Bar Billiards table is ok.

Brite Spark wrote:
It's amazing how many fires occur in pubs.

Its amazing how many stupid comments you post.

****, not another "real ale" pub out of action? Still, no doubt all will be well and there is always the Guide Dog just up the road!...... :o)

Terrible news about one of the best pubs in Hampshire. So glad nobody was hurt.

Lets hope it reopens soon so that Dawn and Martin can get back to doing what they do best. Running a real community pub.

St Denys I.T.A wrote:

Costa Baz wrote:
Glad everyone is safe.
Also glad the appliances were able to reach the pub through the narrow roads, with cars parked either side.
It's bad enough trying to get a car down there some days.

Totally agree with the above post- saw a fire engine having to reverse up Priory Rd last week as it couldn't get through due to parked cars - makes me mad!! Glad that no one was hurt at the Junction fire.

What makes me mad is that while living in Priory Road we received letters from the police telling us that we shouldn't park on the pavement at all. There would be no hope for emergency services down that road if everyone parked 'properly'

Brite Spark wrote:
It's amazing how many fires occur in pubs.

It only seems that way because Pub is short for Public house and thus makes th headlines. I very much doubt the Echo would be fighting over others to get the main news for 83 Hillside Road do you? Your name is clearly false hope

In 2010/2011 8% of fires occurred in restaurants, cafes, pubs etc. The same percentage as industrial premises.
There are 22 times more fires in houses than in pubs/cafes/restauran
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glad that no one was injured, hope they can save the pub. this pub use to be my Sunday lunchtime drinking hole back in the late 60s and 70s when Doris and hazel ran it. any one remember it then.
great pub.

electromonkey wrote:

St Denys I.T.A wrote:

Costa Baz wrote:
Glad everyone is safe.
Also glad the appliances were able to reach the pub through the narrow roads, with cars parked either side.
It's bad enough trying to get a car down there some days.

Totally agree with the above post- saw a fire engine having to reverse up Priory Rd last week as it couldn't get through due to parked cars - makes me mad!! Glad that no one was hurt at the Junction fire.

What makes me mad is that while living in Priory Road we received letters from the police telling us that we shouldn't park on the pavement at all. There would be no hope for emergency services down that road if everyone parked 'properly'

Yes there would. Highwaycode rule 243 "DO NOT stop or park opposite a traffic island or (if this would cause an obstruction) another parked vehicle" So you should not park on the pavement, or opposite a parked car in Priory road.
I sincerely hope the Junction is open soon at the community supports them when they do. Lets drink to that.

HillsidePaul wrote:
Terrible news about one of the best pubs in Hampshire. So glad nobody was hurt.

Lets hope it reopens soon so that Dawn and Martin can get back to doing what they do best. Running a real community pub.

And grassing people up to the police.

mack chinnon wrote:

HillsidePaul wrote:
Terrible news about one of the best pubs in Hampshire. So glad nobody was hurt.

Lets hope it reopens soon so that Dawn and Martin can get back to doing what they do best. Running a real community pub.

And grassing people up to the police.

strange comment, would you care to elaborate??

pod wrote:

mack chinnon wrote:

HillsidePaul wrote:
Terrible news about one of the best pubs in Hampshire. So glad nobody was hurt.

Lets hope it reopens soon so that Dawn and Martin can get back to doing what they do best. Running a real community pub.

And grassing people up to the police.

strange comment, would you care to elaborate??

Well known local story.

Some people are prepared to stand up for their local community, some just want to sell drugs to it.

good for them, I hope they re-open soon and continue to run a good pub. I notice mackchinnon has not replied. Always a cowards way out to make snippy comments behind a keyboard without being prepared to back up their comments. Tell me, mackchinnon do you know something about this fire, that could have resulted in loss of lives.
Have you been 'grassed' up to the police. Have you been a naughty boy??.
Have not been to this pub in a while, due to drink/drive laws, but will make the effort just to show support, might even walk.

fishter wrote:
In 2010/2011 8% of fires occurred in restaurants, cafes, pubs etc. The same percentage as industrial premises.
There are 22 times more fires in houses than in pubs/cafes/restauran

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.. and the ratio of pubs/cafes and restaurants to houses is?

freefinker wrote:

fishter wrote:
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.. and the ratio of pubs/cafes and restaurants to houses is?

I would love to know the ratio of 'failing' pubs to fires instead !!!

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freefinker wrote:

fishter wrote:
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.. and the ratio of pubs/cafes and restaurants to houses is?

I would love to know the ratio of 'failing' pubs to fires instead !!!

.. er, close to 100%?

I just hope that they were insured!

Heard today that the Highfield is closing down next week. No doubt that will have a mystery fire.... Then be a TESCO express.............
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Far too many pubs closing, the habit of socialising is dying.

St Denys I.T.A wrote:

Costa Baz wrote:
Glad everyone is safe.
Also glad the appliances were able to reach the pub through the narrow roads, with cars parked either side.
It's bad enough trying to get a car down there some days.

Totally agree with the above post- saw a fire engine having to reverse up Priory Rd last week as it couldn't get through due to parked cars - makes me mad!! Glad that no one was hurt at the Junction fire.

The central black and white bollard on horseshoe bridge is a flexible dummy, emergency services or anyone else can drive over it and it springs back up.

pod wrote:
good for them, I hope they re-open soon and continue to run a good pub. I notice mackchinnon has not replied. Always a cowards way out to make snippy comments behind a keyboard without being prepared to back up their comments. Tell me, mackchinnon do you know something about this fire, that could have resulted in loss of lives.
Have you been 'grassed' up to the police. Have you been a naughty boy??.
Have not been to this pub in a while, due to drink/drive laws, but will make the effort just to show support, might even walk.

Sounds to me like you have heard only one side of a story.

Nice Pub, Ale, People, Staff, Food and value.
Hope we hear some better news on this front soon, so that we can return.

mack chinnon wrote:

pod wrote:
good for them, I hope they re-open soon and continue to run a good pub. I notice mackchinnon has not replied. Always a cowards way out to make snippy comments behind a keyboard without being prepared to back up their comments. Tell me, mackchinnon do you know something about this fire, that could have resulted in loss of lives.
Have you been 'grassed' up to the police. Have you been a naughty boy??.
Have not been to this pub in a while, due to drink/drive laws, but will make the effort just to show support, might even walk.

Sounds to me like you have heard only one side of a story.

yes, just your little quote, that is why I asked you to enlighten me, do please feel free.

mack chinnon wrote:

HillsidePaul wrote:
Terrible news about one of the best pubs in Hampshire. So glad nobody was hurt.

Lets hope it reopens soon so that Dawn and Martin can get back to doing what they do best. Running a real community pub.

And grassing people up to the police.

The only people scared of grasses are scum that mess up other decent peoples lives. I have no worries about reporting scum to the police.

Good that nobody was hurt - hopefully they'll get the place up and running soon, in particular for the Jubilee celebrations weekend when their beer festival is planned.

RustyCar wrote:

electromonkey wrote:

St Denys I.T.A wrote:

Costa Baz wrote: Glad everyone is safe. Also glad the appliances were able to reach the pub through the narrow roads, with cars parked either side. It's bad enough trying to get a car down there some days.

Totally agree with the above post- saw a fire engine having to reverse up Priory Rd last week as it couldn't get through due to parked cars - makes me mad!! Glad that no one was hurt at the Junction fire.

What makes me mad is that while living in Priory Road we received letters from the police telling us that we shouldn't park on the pavement at all. There would be no hope for emergency services down that road if everyone parked 'properly'

Yes there would. Highwaycode rule 243 "DO NOT stop or park opposite a traffic island or (if this would cause an obstruction) another parked vehicle" So you should not park on the pavement, or opposite a parked car in Priory road. I sincerely hope the Junction is open soon at the community supports them when they do. Lets drink to that.

I hope that the pub did not get damaged too badly and that Dawn, Martin and their family are all well.

Ref. parking (this will be a rant), I used to live on Priory Rd and never parked on the pavement, it's not necessary, it is illegal & also very inconsiderate. If there is no space outside your house, just park down the road a little and walk back to your house, it's not a right to park outside your door.
The same is true for idiots who insist on parking on drives that are smaller than their car - leaving them sticking out over the pavement.
Pavements are for people, who often have young children pushchairs or wheelchairs.
There is no excuse for this behavoir and I wish the police would be more strict with it.
Do car drivers really want pedestrians to walk in the road? That would slow people down even more...
The simple fact is that there are too many cars on roads.
I drive sometimes myself but cycle more often as it is faster and more convenient.
We ALL need to drive less...

Inform Al wrote:

mack chinnon wrote:

HillsidePaul wrote:
Terrible news about one of the best pubs in Hampshire. So glad nobody was hurt.

Lets hope it reopens soon so that Dawn and Martin can get back to doing what they do best. Running a real community pub.

And grassing people up to the police.

The only people scared of grasses are scum that mess up other decent peoples lives. I have no worries about reporting scum to the police.

me neither, but I have come to the conclusion that mackchinnon just wants to play the childs game of 'I know something you don't' nananana, and quite frankly it is pathetic.
I really hope the licencees don't let this put them off. I have just returned from somerset and spent a lovely evening in a pub where the landlord told us that when he took over, he barred 17 people in one night. It takes guts to make a stand against scum.

bigfella777 wrote:

St Denys I.T.A wrote:

Costa Baz wrote:
Glad everyone is safe.
Also glad the appliances were able to reach the pub through the narrow roads, with cars parked either side.
It's bad enough trying to get a car down there some days.

Totally agree with the above post- saw a fire engine having to reverse up Priory Rd last week as it couldn't get through due to parked cars - makes me mad!! Glad that no one was hurt at the Junction fire.

The central black and white bollard on horseshoe bridge is a flexible dummy, emergency services or anyone else can drive over it and it springs back up.

The first fire engine came down Priory Road, not over the bridge. Since they have put those ridiculous "seats" that look like railway sleepers cobbled together on the corner opposite the Junction I am surprised anything can get through there, let alone a fire engine.

The car parking situation has been in this stupid state for many years, as many a lost wing mirror can testify to! Some cars and bikes still think this end of Priory Road is a good racetrack. So, the council in their wisdom decide to put utterly unnecessary speed bumps on the other end of Priory Road, where it's impossible to drive fast anyway!

I have been told on occasion by police in the area that they will only book someone for parking on the pavement if it completely blocked by it. Just as well as they would be here full time handing out tickets!

If we ever, God forbid, have a major incident in this area then goodness knows how the emergency services would cope with access.

Davepriory wrote:

bigfella777 wrote:

St Denys I.T.A wrote:

Costa Baz wrote:
Glad everyone is safe.
Also glad the appliances were able to reach the pub through the narrow roads, with cars parked either side.
It's bad enough trying to get a car down there some days.

Totally agree with the above post- saw a fire engine having to reverse up Priory Rd last week as it couldn't get through due to parked cars - makes me mad!! Glad that no one was hurt at the Junction fire.

The central black and white bollard on horseshoe bridge is a flexible dummy, emergency services or anyone else can drive over it and it springs back up.

The first fire engine came down Priory Road, not over the bridge. Since they have put those ridiculous "seats" that look like railway sleepers cobbled together on the corner opposite the Junction I am surprised anything can get through there, let alone a fire engine.

The car parking situation has been in this stupid state for many years, as many a lost wing mirror can testify to! Some cars and bikes still think this end of Priory Road is a good racetrack. So, the council in their wisdom decide to put utterly unnecessary speed bumps on the other end of Priory Road, where it's impossible to drive fast anyway!

I have been told on occasion by police in the area that they will only book someone for parking on the pavement if it completely blocked by it. Just as well as they would be here full time handing out tickets!

If we ever, God forbid, have a major incident in this area then goodness knows how the emergency services would cope with access.

Totally agree with this post. Simply trying to walk on the pavement is a total 'mare - gawd forbid if you are a wheelchair user! And as for the speed bumps on the other end of Priory Road - what WERE they thinking?

Urbane Forager wrote:

RustyCar wrote:

electromonkey wrote:

St Denys I.T.A wrote:

Costa Baz wrote: Glad everyone is safe. Also glad the appliances were able to reach the pub through the narrow roads, with cars parked either side. It's bad enough trying to get a car down there some days.

Totally agree with the above post- saw a fire engine having to reverse up Priory Rd last week as it couldn't get through due to parked cars - makes me mad!! Glad that no one was hurt at the Junction fire.

What makes me mad is that while living in Priory Road we received letters from the police telling us that we shouldn't park on the pavement at all. There would be no hope for emergency services down that road if everyone parked 'properly'

Yes there would. Highwaycode rule 243 "DO NOT stop or park opposite a traffic island or (if this would cause an obstruction) another parked vehicle" So you should not park on the pavement, or opposite a parked car in Priory road. I sincerely hope the Junction is open soon at the community supports them when they do. Lets drink to that.

I hope that the pub did not get damaged too badly and that Dawn, Martin and their family are all well.

Ref. parking (this will be a rant), I used to live on Priory Rd and never parked on the pavement, it's not necessary, it is illegal & also very inconsiderate. If there is no space outside your house, just park down the road a little and walk back to your house, it's not a right to park outside your door.
The same is true for idiots who insist on parking on drives that are smaller than their car - leaving them sticking out over the pavement.
Pavements are for people, who often have young children pushchairs or wheelchairs.
There is no excuse for this behavoir and I wish the police would be more strict with it.
Do car drivers really want pedestrians to walk in the road? That would slow people down even more...
The simple fact is that there are too many cars on roads.
I drive sometimes myself but cycle more often as it is faster and more convenient.
We ALL need to drive less...

See my comment above, it would be very nice to be able to park in the road, and to do so without risking serious damage to your car thanks to the reckless idiots who race down this end of Priory.

That apart, there have been numerous cats and birds injured or killed by such speeding in all the years I have lived here. I guess the council will only do something about the situation if God forbid a child was involved.

The police have told me in person that parking right on the edge of the pavement to allow maximum access to pedestrians is acceptable.

I suggest that Adelaide and Ivy roads are far worse for access and potential for collisions. I once had my car badly damaged driving down Adelaide by someone parked who opened their door without looking to see what was coming.

St Denys I.T.A wrote:

Davepriory wrote:

bigfella777 wrote:

St Denys I.T.A wrote:

Costa Baz wrote:
Glad everyone is safe.
Also glad the appliances were able to reach the pub through the narrow roads, with cars parked either side.
It's bad enough trying to get a car down there some days.

Totally agree with the above post- saw a fire engine having to reverse up Priory Rd last week as it couldn't get through due to parked cars - makes me mad!! Glad that no one was hurt at the Junction fire.

The central black and white bollard on horseshoe bridge is a flexible dummy, emergency services or anyone else can drive over it and it springs back up.

The first fire engine came down Priory Road, not over the bridge. Since they have put those ridiculous "seats" that look like railway sleepers cobbled together on the corner opposite the Junction I am surprised anything can get through there, let alone a fire engine.

The car parking situation has been in this stupid state for many years, as many a lost wing mirror can testify to! Some cars and bikes still think this end of Priory Road is a good racetrack. So, the council in their wisdom decide to put utterly unnecessary speed bumps on the other end of Priory Road, where it's impossible to drive fast anyway!

I have been told on occasion by police in the area that they will only book someone for parking on the pavement if it completely blocked by it. Just as well as they would be here full time handing out tickets!

If we ever, God forbid, have a major incident in this area then goodness knows how the emergency services would cope with access.

Totally agree with this post. Simply trying to walk on the pavement is a total 'mare - gawd forbid if you are a wheelchair user! And as for the speed bumps on the other end of Priory Road - what WERE they thinking?

If drivers stick to the edge of the pavement for parking (which not enough do), then there's enough room, notwithstanding shrubs and bushes from peoples' front gardens overhanging the pavement! And wheelie-bins left there because some people are too lazy to move them.

I often see people driving disabled buggies IN the road along here, weaving in and out of the parked cars. Now THAT is dangerous! No-one would have much sympathy for any driver who collided with one of those!

pod wrote:

Inform Al wrote:

mack chinnon wrote:

HillsidePaul wrote:
Terrible news about one of the best pubs in Hampshire. So glad nobody was hurt.

Lets hope it reopens soon so that Dawn and Martin can get back to doing what they do best. Running a real community pub.

And grassing people up to the police.

The only people scared of grasses are scum that mess up other decent peoples lives. I have no worries about reporting scum to the police.

me neither, but I have come to the conclusion that mackchinnon just wants to play the childs game of 'I know something you don't' nananana, and quite frankly it is pathetic.
I really hope the licencees don't let this put them off. I have just returned from somerset and spent a lovely evening in a pub where the landlord told us that when he took over, he barred 17 people in one night. It takes guts to make a stand against scum.

I do know something you dont know.
Also, for your information, I have not been banned I just chose not to go in the Junction along with a sizeable amount of the St Denys community who I am sure would take exception to being called scum.
Nanananana

Hope your're back open soon Martin and Dawn. Not a regular but you run a good pub! All the best to you and your family.

mack chinnon wrote:

pod wrote:

Inform Al wrote:

mack chinnon wrote:

HillsidePaul wrote:
Terrible news about one of the best pubs in Hampshire. So glad nobody was hurt.

Lets hope it reopens soon so that Dawn and Martin can get back to doing what they do best. Running a real community pub.

And grassing people up to the police.

The only people scared of grasses are scum that mess up other decent peoples lives. I have no worries about reporting scum to the police.

me neither, but I have come to the conclusion that mackchinnon just wants to play the childs game of 'I know something you don't' nananana, and quite frankly it is pathetic.
I really hope the licencees don't let this put them off. I have just returned from somerset and spent a lovely evening in a pub where the landlord told us that when he took over, he barred 17 people in one night. It takes guts to make a stand against scum.

I do know something you dont know.
Also, for your information, I have not been banned I just chose not to go in the Junction along with a sizeable amount of the St Denys community who I am sure would take exception to being called scum.
Nanananana

schools over, does your mummy know you are still playing on the computer.I
never said that you had been banned, you need to spend more time on reading lessons and less playing silly games.
pathetic sad little person, don't bother to reply, I, for one, am bored with you now.
Best wishes to the landlord and his partner and all the decent people living in the area.

mack chinnon wrote:

pod wrote:

Inform Al wrote:

mack chinnon wrote:

HillsidePaul wrote:
Terrible news about one of the best pubs in Hampshire. So glad nobody was hurt.

Lets hope it reopens soon so that Dawn and Martin can get back to doing what they do best. Running a real community pub.

And grassing people up to the police.

The only people scared of grasses are scum that mess up other decent peoples lives. I have no worries about reporting scum to the police.

me neither, but I have come to the conclusion that mackchinnon just wants to play the childs game of 'I know something you don't' nananana, and quite frankly it is pathetic.
I really hope the licencees don't let this put them off. I have just returned from somerset and spent a lovely evening in a pub where the landlord told us that when he took over, he barred 17 people in one night. It takes guts to make a stand against scum.

I do know something you dont know.
Also, for your information, I have not been banned I just chose not to go in the Junction along with a sizeable amount of the St Denys community who I am sure would take exception to being called scum.
Nanananana

As I only called those with a reason to be scared of grasses as scum, I would hope, and suspect, that most of the St Denys community do not come into this catergorie.

The Junction Inn has always been the best pub in Southampton, it was in Mike and Jocelyn's day, it is still with Dawn and Martin, who have put their hearts and souls into the place, in the toughest of times. They've just celebrated their first 10 years & I for one am looking forward to the next. It's awful to lose your home / have all your possessions smoke-damaged/ stinking. BTW The humps at the top end of Priory Rd were put in to calm all the rat-runners who cut through there to avoid the lights on Thomas Lewis Way. Doesn't stop them...