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SAINTS' financial problems came back to haunt them yesterday as they off-loaded star striker Grzegorz Rasiak and midfielder Rudi Skacel.
Czech Skacel has gone to Bundesliga side Hertha Berlin on loan for the rest of the season with a view to a permanent move.
Prolific Polish hitman Rasiak has joined Bolton on loan until the end of the season with a view to a permanent move.
Rasiak and Skacel were two of the club's top earners. Raziak was believed to be on around £12,000 a week and Skacel is also on top wages.
That saving in wages, combined with the potential fees for the two most expensive purchases in the Saints squad, proved too much for the cash-strapped club to turn down.
Saints tried to put a brave face on the deal by saying it was also a
way of easing the log-jam
of strikers' but in reality it
was another massive dent
to their promotion hopes.
Rasiak scored 21 goals
for the club last season
and eight this campaign.
Acting chief executive
Lee Hoos said: "It is a
good opportunity for
Greg to make his mark in
the Premier League and it
is a good deal for us. Greg
wanted to go so it makes
sense for both of us."
The log-jam' sited is due
to the return of Marek
Saganowski, who scored
three goals in 15 appearances
this season before his
injury, and David McGoldrick
who has returned from a
loan spell at League One
Port Vale where he scored
twice in 18 appearances.
Joint caretaker manager
John Gorman added: "We
wish Greg well but we just
move on. We have a lot of
good strikers here so we feel
we still have the firepower to
mount a promotion challenge.
"Marek Saganowski has
been working hard in training
and is desperate to get
back in the side and David
McGoldrick is champing at
the bit. He is desperate for
first-team football but could
not get close because there
was a bottle-neck of strikers."
The other strikers at the
club are Stern John, who
has scored ten times in 18
starts and six sub appearances
but hasn't netted
since his hat-trick against
Hull almost eight weeks ago
and Bradley Wright-Phillips
who has eight goals in 24
starts and six sub appearances.
Rasiak, whose total for
Saints was 33 goals in 64
starts and 19 sub appearances,
had expressed concern
earlier in the season
that his international place
with Poland at the European
Championship was in jeopardy
this summer if George
Burley left him out.
He was omitted from his
country's training group next
week and the 29-year-old
was happy to make the
move.
He said: "This is a big
chance for me to play in the
Premier League and to
improve as a player. And
Euro 2008 played a big part
in my decision.
"It is only on loan at the
moment. I still have two and
a half years on my contract
with Southampton but if I do
well and score goals then
who knows what the summer
will bring? The European
Championships are
very important to me and if I
am playing for a Premiership
team I have a bigger chance
to be part of it.
"It was not an easy decision
and I thought about it
for a long time. I have really
enjoyed my time here and it
is a good club and a nice
place to live. I have a lot of
respect for Southampton
and for the fans who stuck
by me even when I was not
playing.
"I scored 33 goals in just
under two years and that is a
good record especially considering
I had spells out of
the team.
"I really hope Southampton
go on and win promotion."
5:58am Friday 1st February 2008
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CommentPosted by: Sniper on 6:27am Fri 1 Feb 08
One minute the club is in financial crisis, the next Crouch says everything is fine, so why are we getting rid of our highest earners when they are part of the first team plans?
Just be honest with us. Stop all this posturing and spin.
You can also see why they have delayed getting in a new manager (if we ever get one?) as he would have seen players leaving the club without his permission. No manager with a backbone wants that. So the club have done it and no doubt we'll end up with a "yes man" as our next boss.
Crouch, Hoos & Lawrie, please stop lying to the fans.
One minute the club is in financial crisis, the next Crouch says everything is fine, so why are we getting rid of our highest earners when they are part of the first team plans?
Just be honest with us. Stop all this posturing and spin.
You can also see why they have delayed getting in a new manager (if we ever get one?) as he would have seen players leaving the club without his permission. No manager with a backbone wants that. So the club have done it and no doubt we'll end up with a "yes man" as our next boss.
Crouch, Hoos & Lawrie, please stop lying to the fans.
Posted by: CHEESLEY, Ringmer on 6:36am Fri 1 Feb 08
What a mess?
Posted by: Denzil, work on 6:50am Fri 1 Feb 08
Disgraceful. Crouch is loaded. I think he should pay their wages.
Disgraceful. Crouch is loaded. I think he should pay their wages.
Posted by: John B, Bitterne on 7:19am Fri 1 Feb 08
[quote][bold]CHEESLEY[/bold] wrote:
What a mess?[/quote] BURLEY'S MISMANAGEMENT LOST US ANY CHANCE OF PROMOTION.
THE BOARD ARE ONLY BEING REALISTIC REDUCING THE WAGE BILL AND HOPING TO RECEIVE SOME TRANSFER CASH
IT IS GOING TO TAKE ALONG TIME AND SOME LUCK FOR US TO RETURN TO THE PREMIERSHIP AND IF WE DO IT IS UNLIKELY WE WILL STAY FOR LONG.
LETS JUST SUPPORT THE SAINTS AS A CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM AND NOT BE ARGOGANT THINKING WE SHOULD BE AUTOMATICALLY IN THE PREMIERSHIP.
WE SHOULD NOT BE UNPLEASANT ABOUT POMPEY SOME OF THEIR SUPPORTERS WHO I KNOW ARE JUST LIKE US AND WANT THE BEST FOR THEIR TEAM.
THEY HAVE HAD A WORSE TIME THAN US OVER THE LAST 45 YEARS
CHEESLEY wrote:
What a mess?
BURLEY'S MISMANAGEMENT LOST US ANY CHANCE OF PROMOTION.
THE BOARD ARE ONLY BEING REALISTIC REDUCING THE WAGE BILL AND HOPING TO RECEIVE SOME TRANSFER CASH
IT IS GOING TO TAKE ALONG TIME AND SOME LUCK FOR US TO RETURN TO THE PREMIERSHIP AND IF WE DO IT IS UNLIKELY WE WILL STAY FOR LONG.
LETS JUST SUPPORT THE SAINTS AS A CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM AND NOT BE ARGOGANT THINKING WE SHOULD BE AUTOMATICALLY IN THE PREMIERSHIP.
WE SHOULD NOT BE UNPLEASANT ABOUT POMPEY SOME OF THEIR SUPPORTERS WHO I KNOW ARE JUST LIKE US AND WANT THE BEST FOR THEIR TEAM.
THEY HAVE HAD A WORSE TIME THAN US OVER THE LAST 45 YEARS
Posted by: Itchen Saint, At the Computer on 7:37am Fri 1 Feb 08
Bolton Supported must be pleased getting Rasiak to replace Annelka I did not realise he was that good.
Both player's want to go to Euro 2008 so they must have been pessurising Saints for a Transfer
Bolton Supported must be pleased getting Rasiak to replace Annelka I did not realise he was that good.
Both player's want to go to Euro 2008 so they must have been pessurising Saints for a Transfer
Posted by: Ed, Taunton on 7:41am Fri 1 Feb 08
Let's just hope that the FA Cup money, the Burley compensation, and the savings from the Rasiak / Skacel loans get Saints back on level terms financially. Winning at Bristol Rovers is vital and is all we have to play for realistically so come on boys don't let us down, we need the cash!
I agree that they seem to have held off from appointing the manager to make some unpopular decisions. It is quite likely that an appointment will soon be made now. Let's just hope it's the right appointment!
Let's just hope that the FA Cup money, the Burley compensation, and the savings from the Rasiak / Skacel loans get Saints back on level terms financially. Winning at Bristol Rovers is vital and is all we have to play for realistically so come on boys don't let us down, we need the cash!
I agree that they seem to have held off from appointing the manager to make some unpopular decisions. It is quite likely that an appointment will soon be made now. Let's just hope it's the right appointment!
Posted by: colin hooper, jersey on 7:53am Fri 1 Feb 08
What is happening,it looks like the club will go into recievership soon. Why cant we attract a weathy magnate,when the likes of QPR & the skates can.There must be more than meets the eye.
What is happening,it looks like the club will go into recievership soon. Why cant we attract a weathy magnate,when the likes of QPR & the skates can.There must be more than meets the eye.
Posted by: Wazza on 7:54am Fri 1 Feb 08
[quote][bold]John B[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]CHEESLEY[/bold] wrote: What a mess?[/quote] BURLEY'S MISMANAGEMENT LOST US ANY CHANCE OF PROMOTION. THE BOARD ARE ONLY BEING REALISTIC REDUCING THE WAGE BILL AND HOPING TO RECEIVE SOME TRANSFER CASH IT IS GOING TO TAKE ALONG TIME AND SOME LUCK FOR US TO RETURN TO THE PREMIERSHIP AND IF WE DO IT IS UNLIKELY WE WILL STAY FOR LONG. LETS JUST SUPPORT THE SAINTS AS A CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM AND NOT BE ARGOGANT THINKING WE SHOULD BE AUTOMATICALLY IN THE PREMIERSHIP. WE SHOULD NOT BE UNPLEASANT ABOUT POMPEY SOME OF THEIR SUPPORTERS WHO I KNOW ARE JUST LIKE US AND WANT THE BEST FOR THEIR TEAM. THEY HAVE HAD A WORSE TIME THAN US OVER THE LAST 45 YEARS [/quote] Hear hear.
Things are messy at the moment and it is largely out of the fans control (the only real influence we have is if pack the stadium every home game like Sunderland did last season.) We're here for the long haul.
We went down at the wrong time as soon after that the Premiership TV deal was re-negotiated, widening the gulf between Championship and Premier league.
We either need new investment or someone inspirational in charge next.
Strap yourslef in Saints fans.
I for one will be renewing my season ticket straight away. I urge everyone else to do the same.
John B wrote:
CHEESLEY wrote: What a mess?
BURLEY'S MISMANAGEMENT LOST US ANY CHANCE OF PROMOTION. THE BOARD ARE ONLY BEING REALISTIC REDUCING THE WAGE BILL AND HOPING TO RECEIVE SOME TRANSFER CASH IT IS GOING TO TAKE ALONG TIME AND SOME LUCK FOR US TO RETURN TO THE PREMIERSHIP AND IF WE DO IT IS UNLIKELY WE WILL STAY FOR LONG. LETS JUST SUPPORT THE SAINTS AS A CHAMPIONSHIP TEAM AND NOT BE ARGOGANT THINKING WE SHOULD BE AUTOMATICALLY IN THE PREMIERSHIP. WE SHOULD NOT BE UNPLEASANT ABOUT POMPEY SOME OF THEIR SUPPORTERS WHO I KNOW ARE JUST LIKE US AND WANT THE BEST FOR THEIR TEAM. THEY HAVE HAD A WORSE TIME THAN US OVER THE LAST 45 YEARS
Hear hear.
Things are messy at the moment and it is largely out of the fans control (the only real influence we have is if pack the stadium every home game like Sunderland did last season.) We're here for the long haul.
We went down at the wrong time as soon after that the Premiership TV deal was re-negotiated, widening the gulf between Championship and Premier league.
We either need new investment or someone inspirational in charge next.
Strap yourslef in Saints fans.
I for one will be renewing my season ticket straight away. I urge everyone else to do the same.
Posted by: stoned saint on 8:02am Fri 1 Feb 08
any one out there fancy taking my season ticket on loan with a view to a transfer
any one out there fancy taking my season ticket on loan with a view to a transfer
Posted by: Sniper on 8:02am Fri 1 Feb 08
Wazza wrote: "I for one will be renewing my season ticket straight away. I urge everyone else to do the same"
I won't until I feel the club has some direction and honesty about the way it is run. Why should I give my hardearned to a club that treats its fans with utter contempt?
Wazza wrote: "I for one will be renewing my season ticket straight away. I urge everyone else to do the same"
I won't until I feel the club has some direction and honesty about the way it is run. Why should I give my hardearned to a club that treats its fans with utter contempt?
Posted by: Wazza on 8:05am Fri 1 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Sniper[/bold] wrote:
Wazza wrote: "I for one will be renewing my season ticket straight away. I urge everyone else to do the same" I won't until I feel the club has some direction and honesty about the way it is run. Why should I give my hardearned to a club that treats its fans with utter contempt? [/quote] It's down to you. I'm in through thick and thin.
It's a bit like an old school marriage, no divorce, no getting out.
Even if the missus is a complete ****, which in this case she is!
Sniper wrote:
Wazza wrote: "I for one will be renewing my season ticket straight away. I urge everyone else to do the same" I won't until I feel the club has some direction and honesty about the way it is run. Why should I give my hardearned to a club that treats its fans with utter contempt?
It's down to you. I'm in through thick and thin.
It's a bit like an old school marriage, no divorce, no getting out.
Even if the missus is a complete ****, which in this case she is!
Posted by: Simon, Southampton on 8:19am Fri 1 Feb 08
Saints fans should forget all about the premier league. The club have no money and will never mount a serious challenge without the long promised new investment.
The club last night effectively sell their two best players and still harp on about a promotion challenge! I think it is high time the club come clean and let us all know what the true state of affairs is!!
Most sensible supporters will be realistic if they are told the truth instead of this constant stream of drivel and spin that everything is rosy in the garden.
Until now most fans have been positive about the clubs prospects but this latest turn of events is pointing more and more towards League 1 and financial meltdown than a return to the top flight.
Please just tell us all the truth and don't insult our intelligence with anymore with cynical stories about investment (Paul Allen etc!) aimed at covering up the facts and trying to sell more season tickets.
Saints fans should forget all about the premier league. The club have no money and will never mount a serious challenge without the long promised new investment.
The club last night effectively sell their two best players and still harp on about a promotion challenge! I think it is high time the club come clean and let us all know what the true state of affairs is!!
Most sensible supporters will be realistic if they are told the truth instead of this constant stream of drivel and spin that everything is rosy in the garden.
Until now most fans have been positive about the clubs prospects but this latest turn of events is pointing more and more towards League 1 and financial meltdown than a return to the top flight.
Please just tell us all the truth and don't insult our intelligence with anymore with cynical stories about investment (Paul Allen etc!) aimed at covering up the facts and trying to sell more season tickets.
Posted by: Saint Ash, At work on 8:21am Fri 1 Feb 08
Not great news, but let's look at it;
1)20k off the wage bill.
2)Transfer money for next season 3-4 million?
3)Rasiak is a lazy git.
4)Skacel has never lived up to his potential.
5)Get some of these young, hungry kids in from the reserves.
6)We are still the best football club on the south coast.
7)Twichy is still the ugliest manager in football.
COYR
Not great news, but let's look at it;
1)20k off the wage bill.
2)Transfer money for next season 3-4 million?
3)Rasiak is a lazy git.
4)Skacel has never lived up to his potential.
5)Get some of these young, hungry kids in from the reserves.
6)We are still the best football club on the south coast.
7)Twichy is still the ugliest manager in football.
COYR
Posted by: sailor sam, portsmouth on 8:31am Fri 1 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Saint Ash[/bold] wrote:
Not great news, but let's look at it; 1)20k off the wage bill. 2)Transfer money for next season 3-4 million? 3)Rasiak is a lazy git. 4)Skacel has never lived up to his potential. 5)Get some of these young, hungry kids in from the reserves. 6)We are still the best football club on the south coast. 7)Twichy is still the ugliest manager in football. COYR[/quote] 1) Chicken feed.
2) Delete the 0000s and you are nearer the truth.
3 and 4) Read Aesops fables - The fox and the grapes!
5) Hungry kids? Have they not been paid?
6) As a Saint, 'Thou speakest in jest'.
7) Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and behold, he manages a Premier League team!
I used to think that out neighbours were de foe, now I discover he is the South Coast's only Premier League club's new England International, multi-million pound new signing! Defoe is de man for us!
Saint Ash wrote:
Not great news, but let's look at it; 1)20k off the wage bill. 2)Transfer money for next season 3-4 million? 3)Rasiak is a lazy git. 4)Skacel has never lived up to his potential. 5)Get some of these young, hungry kids in from the reserves. 6)We are still the best football club on the south coast. 7)Twichy is still the ugliest manager in football. COYR
1) Chicken feed.
2) Delete the 0000s and you are nearer the truth.
3 and 4) Read Aesops fables - The fox and the grapes!
5) Hungry kids? Have they not been paid?
6) As a Saint, 'Thou speakest in jest'.
7) Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and behold, he manages a Premier League team!
I used to think that out neighbours were de foe, now I discover he is the South Coast's only Premier League club's new England International, multi-million pound new signing! Defoe is de man for us!
Posted by: Barry, Dorset on 8:37am Fri 1 Feb 08
Why is taking so long to get a new manager in? we are like a ship with no rudder, [bold]Dodd and[/bold] [bold]Gorman are not good enough[/bold] and with another two good players departing its only going to be mid table crap this year, and if we stay as we are next season it will only be worse on the cash front!!!
Why is taking so long to get a new manager in? we are like a ship with no rudder,
Dodd and Gorman are not good enough and with another two good players departing its only going to be mid table crap this year, and if we stay as we are next season it will only be worse on the cash front!!!
Posted by: Skatehater, Whiteley on 8:46am Fri 1 Feb 08
[quote][bold]sailor sam[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Saint Ash[/bold] wrote: Not great news, but let's look at it; 1)20k off the wage bill. 2)Transfer money for next season 3-4 million? 3)Rasiak is a lazy git. 4)Skacel has never lived up to his potential. 5)Get some of these young, hungry kids in from the reserves. 6)We are still the best football club on the south coast. 7)Twichy is still the ugliest manager in football. COYR[/quote] 1) Chicken feed. 2) Delete the 0000s and you are nearer the truth. 3 and 4) Read Aesops fables - The fox and the grapes! 5) Hungry kids? Have they not been paid? 6) As a Saint, 'Thou speakest in jest'. 7) Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and behold, he manages a Premier League team! I used to think that out neighbours were de foe, now I discover he is the South Coast's only Premier League club's new England International, multi-million pound new signing! Defoe is de man for us! [/quote] Good Morning,
bad night for us but tell me whats going to happen in Gayboydamak Daddy insists he sells now? Can you really be that lucky to get another sugar daddy who wants to play with a little broken toy for a while?
What if gay boy cannot sell in the summer and Daddy tells him to sell players to recoup the money he invested in playing with fish?
There must be a niggling worry at the back of your mind.
sailor sam wrote:
Saint Ash wrote: Not great news, but let's look at it; 1)20k off the wage bill. 2)Transfer money for next season 3-4 million? 3)Rasiak is a lazy git. 4)Skacel has never lived up to his potential. 5)Get some of these young, hungry kids in from the reserves. 6)We are still the best football club on the south coast. 7)Twichy is still the ugliest manager in football. COYR
1) Chicken feed. 2) Delete the 0000s and you are nearer the truth. 3 and 4) Read Aesops fables - The fox and the grapes! 5) Hungry kids? Have they not been paid? 6) As a Saint, 'Thou speakest in jest'. 7) Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and behold, he manages a Premier League team! I used to think that out neighbours were de foe, now I discover he is the South Coast's only Premier League club's new England International, multi-million pound new signing! Defoe is de man for us!
Good Morning,
bad night for us but tell me whats going to happen in Gayboydamak Daddy insists he sells now? Can you really be that lucky to get another sugar daddy who wants to play with a little broken toy for a while?
What if gay boy cannot sell in the summer and Daddy tells him to sell players to recoup the money he invested in playing with fish?
There must be a niggling worry at the back of your mind.
Posted by: John B, Bitterne on 8:49am Fri 1 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Sniper[/bold] wrote:
Wazza wrote: "I for one will be renewing my season ticket straight away. I urge everyone else to do the same" I won't until I feel the club has some direction and honesty about the way it is run. Why should I give my hardearned to a club that treats its fans with utter contempt? [/quote] Well we dont need fans like you
We need support when we are down go and support Man U or Chelsea.
The club has little or no money and is doing the best it can
Realistically we are a mid table side and will be for some time
Sniper wrote:
Wazza wrote: "I for one will be renewing my season ticket straight away. I urge everyone else to do the same" I won't until I feel the club has some direction and honesty about the way it is run. Why should I give my hardearned to a club that treats its fans with utter contempt?
Well we dont need fans like you
We need support when we are down go and support Man U or Chelsea.
The club has little or no money and is doing the best it can
Realistically we are a mid table side and will be for some time
Posted by: a saint, dfa on 8:49am Fri 1 Feb 08
[quote][bold]sailor sam[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Saint Ash[/bold] wrote: Not great news, but let's look at it; 1)20k off the wage bill. 2)Transfer money for next season 3-4 million? 3)Rasiak is a lazy git. 4)Skacel has never lived up to his potential. 5)Get some of these young, hungry kids in from the reserves. 6)We are still the best football club on the south coast. 7)Twichy is still the ugliest manager in football. COYR[/quote] 1) Chicken feed. 2) Delete the 0000s and you are nearer the truth. 3 and 4) Read Aesops fables - The fox and the grapes! 5) Hungry kids? Have they not been paid? 6) As a Saint, 'Thou speakest in jest'. 7) Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and behold, he manages a Premier League team! I used to think that out neighbours were de foe, now I discover he is the South Coast's only Premier League club's new England International, multi-million pound new signing! Defoe is de man for us! [/quote] sam is probably right :(
sailor sam wrote:
Saint Ash wrote: Not great news, but let's look at it; 1)20k off the wage bill. 2)Transfer money for next season 3-4 million? 3)Rasiak is a lazy git. 4)Skacel has never lived up to his potential. 5)Get some of these young, hungry kids in from the reserves. 6)We are still the best football club on the south coast. 7)Twichy is still the ugliest manager in football. COYR
1) Chicken feed. 2) Delete the 0000s and you are nearer the truth. 3 and 4) Read Aesops fables - The fox and the grapes! 5) Hungry kids? Have they not been paid? 6) As a Saint, 'Thou speakest in jest'. 7) Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, and behold, he manages a Premier League team! I used to think that out neighbours were de foe, now I discover he is the South Coast's only Premier League club's new England International, multi-million pound new signing! Defoe is de man for us!
sam is probably right :(
Posted by: Kate, Andover on 8:52am Fri 1 Feb 08
Firstly, Rasiak and Skacel WANTED to go, to further their international careers. Can't blame them, they're not getting any younger!!
Secondly, they weren't really part of the first team anymore so I don't think it's a huge loss.
Don't get me wrong, I would rather they'd have stayed but that's their decision. I'm just glad we kept hold of the others!
I don't think we need money to survive on a day to day basis but we are a club that has no more parachute payments and not much else to cover it so it all helps. So when Crouch says we're fine, we probably are. But a little bit of extra cash won't hurt.
I'll be at Palace tomorrow and will be looking forward to the way the team plays. I reckon if they go with pretty much the same team/formation as Tuesday, we could do well.
COYR!!
Firstly, Rasiak and Skacel WANTED to go, to further their international careers. Can't blame them, they're not getting any younger!!
Secondly, they weren't really part of the first team anymore so I don't think it's a huge loss.
Don't get me wrong, I would rather they'd have stayed but that's their decision. I'm just glad we kept hold of the others!
I don't think we need money to survive on a day to day basis but we are a club that has no more parachute payments and not much else to cover it so it all helps. So when Crouch says we're fine, we probably are. But a little bit of extra cash won't hurt.
I'll be at Palace tomorrow and will be looking forward to the way the team plays. I reckon if they go with pretty much the same team/formation as Tuesday, we could do well.
COYR!!
Posted by: Andy Welsh, Sudbury on 8:55am Fri 1 Feb 08
As I have said before, fans need to be realistic about the club's predicament. This is designed to get us through until the summer when presumably we have the choice of new investment and another rebuilding job with a new manager (probably Adams who has undeniably done well in the past with no money), or wholesale sales starting with Rasiak and Skacel, followed by Dyer, Surman etc and the introduction of some more journeymen on lower wages. I still think that a combination of our young talent and judicious purchases from the lower leagues could produce a team capable of promotion. That's what Ipswich and Bristol City have done, but obviously we have to hope the new manager has the ability do make that work. Tough times ahead probably, but that will make the success all the sweeter when it comes.
As I have said before, fans need to be realistic about the club's predicament. This is designed to get us through until the summer when presumably we have the choice of new investment and another rebuilding job with a new manager (probably Adams who has undeniably done well in the past with no money), or wholesale sales starting with Rasiak and Skacel, followed by Dyer, Surman etc and the introduction of some more journeymen on lower wages. I still think that a combination of our young talent and judicious purchases from the lower leagues could produce a team capable of promotion. That's what Ipswich and Bristol City have done, but obviously we have to hope the new manager has the ability do make that work. Tough times ahead probably, but that will make the success all the sweeter when it comes.
Posted by: Kate, Andover on 8:56am Fri 1 Feb 08
Wazza, I'm with you. I'll be renewing my season ticket too - now where's my cheque book????
How can we ask the team to do their bit if we're not prepared to do our bit?
Wazza, I'm with you. I'll be renewing my season ticket too - now where's my cheque book????
How can we ask the team to do their bit if we're not prepared to do our bit?
Posted by: John B, Bitterne on 8:56am Fri 1 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Kate[/bold] wrote:
Firstly, Rasiak and Skacel WANTED to go, to further their international careers. Can't blame them, they're not getting any younger!! Secondly, they weren't really part of the first team anymore so I don't think it's a huge loss. Don't get me wrong, I would rather they'd have stayed but that's their decision. I'm just glad we kept hold of the others! I don't think we need money to survive on a day to day basis but we are a club that has no more parachute payments and not much else to cover it so it all helps. So when Crouch says we're fine, we probably are. But a little bit of extra cash won't hurt. I'll be at Palace tomorrow and will be looking forward to the way the team plays. I reckon if they go with pretty much the same team/formation as Tuesday, we could do well. COYR!![/quote] Well said Kate
I dont think the Club's money situation is good but I dont think it is bad either,
I dont think we need a new manager yet as long as Gorman keep us in the Cup and we win a few games
Kate wrote:
Firstly, Rasiak and Skacel WANTED to go, to further their international careers. Can't blame them, they're not getting any younger!! Secondly, they weren't really part of the first team anymore so I don't think it's a huge loss. Don't get me wrong, I would rather they'd have stayed but that's their decision. I'm just glad we kept hold of the others! I don't think we need money to survive on a day to day basis but we are a club that has no more parachute payments and not much else to cover it so it all helps. So when Crouch says we're fine, we probably are. But a little bit of extra cash won't hurt. I'll be at Palace tomorrow and will be looking forward to the way the team plays. I reckon if they go with pretty much the same team/formation as Tuesday, we could do well. COYR!!
Well said Kate
I dont think the Club's money situation is good but I dont think it is bad either,
I dont think we need a new manager yet as long as Gorman keep us in the Cup and we win a few games
Posted by: gay jim, leigh park on 8:59am Fri 1 Feb 08
sam
its me jim from last sat at the havant game. did you not see the message i left for you? how come you havent phoned me like you promised you very naughty boy. not to worry tho now we are in contact i wont let you slip from my tight (!!!!) grip again. fancy taking me "up the pompey" at the weekend? you can take me too see that mate of yours john who you said was really good at ringing a (your) bell. message back sweetie xxx
sam
its me jim from last sat at the havant game. did you not see the message i left for you? how come you havent phoned me like you promised you very naughty boy. not to worry tho now we are in contact i wont let you slip from my tight (!!!!) grip again. fancy taking me "up the pompey" at the weekend? you can take me too see that mate of yours john who you said was really good at ringing a (your) bell. message back sweetie xxx
Posted by: Deano Bolton, Bolton on 9:00am Fri 1 Feb 08
How's it goin guys, I'm a fan of the Mighty Whites Premiership blunderers !
What are your views on Grzegorz Rasiak ??
Have we signed another dummy or does he have some potential ?
Cheers
How's it goin guys, I'm a fan of the Mighty Whites Premiership blunderers !
What are your views on Grzegorz Rasiak ??
Have we signed another dummy or does he have some potential ?
Cheers
Posted by: mullingar on 9:00am Fri 1 Feb 08
Yesterday just proves that we are definately in the cr*p!
We need every penny we can find and I have a feeling that we will not be appointing a new manager this season - it looks like Gorman and Dodd will be in charge until the end of the season and who knows, maybe next season as well!
The compen for Burley from the SFA will have been banked, never to be touched!
Time for some realism - the dark days are not going away and we are in it for some time to come.
Positive note to finish - if we play the rest of season like we played on Tuesday night against Norwich, then Gorman will do for me in these worrying times.
COYRs!!
Yesterday just proves that we are definately in the cr*p!
We need every penny we can find and I have a feeling that we will not be appointing a new manager this season - it looks like Gorman and Dodd will be in charge until the end of the season and who knows, maybe next season as well!
The compen for Burley from the SFA will have been banked, never to be touched!
Time for some realism - the dark days are not going away and we are in it for some time to come.
Positive note to finish - if we play the rest of season like we played on Tuesday night against Norwich, then Gorman will do for me in these worrying times.
COYRs!!
Posted by: exeter saint on 9:05am Fri 1 Feb 08
we still got viafara though who was the player i was really worried about loosing. Now maybe play him and safri in cm with hammill on the right and surman on the left.
we still got viafara though who was the player i was really worried about loosing. Now maybe play him and safri in cm with hammill on the right and surman on the left.
Posted by: Automan, Southampton on 9:06am Fri 1 Feb 08
As John Major would have said it's time to go back to basics. We've tried the big name foreign players and quite frankly it's not worked. If the youngsters are good then give them a chance. Lallana was good against Sheff W and was never seen again. Lancashire was courted by Liverpool- surely he's better than Powell. Maybe Gillet should be given a last chance too?
As John Major would have said it's time to go back to basics. We've tried the big name foreign players and quite frankly it's not worked. If the youngsters are good then give them a chance. Lallana was good against Sheff W and was never seen again. Lancashire was courted by Liverpool- surely he's better than Powell. Maybe Gillet should be given a last chance too?
Posted by: Wazza on 9:12am Fri 1 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Deano Bolton[/bold] wrote:
How's it goin guys, I'm a fan of the Mighty Whites Premiership blunderers ! What are your views on Grzegorz Rasiak ?? Have we signed another dummy or does he have some potential ? Cheers[/quote] I would prefer Nicholas Anelka!!!
He hasn't really had a fair go at Premiership level so I guess it's a gamble. Certainly in this league I believe if he starts 40 games he will get you 20+ goals, not pretty goals, but goals all the same.
Whethere that translates in the premier league, it will be intersting to find out.
Deano Bolton wrote:
How's it goin guys, I'm a fan of the Mighty Whites Premiership blunderers ! What are your views on Grzegorz Rasiak ?? Have we signed another dummy or does he have some potential ? Cheers
I would prefer Nicholas Anelka!!!
He hasn't really had a fair go at Premiership level so I guess it's a gamble. Certainly in this league I believe if he starts 40 games he will get you 20+ goals, not pretty goals, but goals all the same.
Whethere that translates in the premier league, it will be intersting to find out.
Posted by: Alan, Eastleigh on 9:13am Fri 1 Feb 08
Lets honestly look at the facts. I am a saints fan and i really dont know how people can come on here and say that we are better than pompey?? There is no way in the world we are, they can attract players like Defoe, Nugent, Glen Johnson, Utaka and we cant even get Daily or infact anyone. I think we all know what would happen if we played each other tomorrow wudnt we and it wouldnt be pretty for us!!!!!!! I think we just need to accept that we are now a second rate Championship club and unless we get a vast amount of Investment thats what we will always be!!!!!!!
Lets honestly look at the facts. I am a saints fan and i really dont know how people can come on here and say that we are better than pompey?? There is no way in the world we are, they can attract players like Defoe, Nugent, Glen Johnson, Utaka and we cant even get Daily or infact anyone. I think we all know what would happen if we played each other tomorrow wudnt we and it wouldnt be pretty for us!!!!!!! I think we just need to accept that we are now a second rate Championship club and unless we get a vast amount of Investment thats what we will always be!!!!!!!
Posted by: saint adam, sholing on 9:19am Fri 1 Feb 08
after hearing the news about rasiak and skacel last nite and reading headlines this morning i was very worried about the state of the club but after reading sdome posts i must admit things are starting to look up.
1. we have big earners of wage bill (but why we didnt sell is beyond me)
2. they never played week in week out did they? and when they they never set the world alight.
3. nows the chance to use our world famous acadamey again. i know its not the best to play kids, but if they are good enouhh they are old enough.
lallana was good last season, mcgoldrick just wants to play, oli lancashire seems good in the reserves, dyer will be back soon. so i dont think its all doom and gloom.
i am still worried but not as much as last nite, lets get behind the team and im sure we will pull thru.
one team in hampshire
after hearing the news about rasiak and skacel last nite and reading headlines this morning i was very worried about the state of the club but after reading sdome posts i must admit things are starting to look up.
1. we have big earners of wage bill (but why we didnt sell is beyond me)
2. they never played week in week out did they? and when they they never set the world alight.
3. nows the chance to use our world famous acadamey again. i know its not the best to play kids, but if they are good enouhh they are old enough.
lallana was good last season, mcgoldrick just wants to play, oli lancashire seems good in the reserves, dyer will be back soon. so i dont think its all doom and gloom.
i am still worried but not as much as last nite, lets get behind the team and im sure we will pull thru.
one team in hampshire
Posted by: Deano Bolton, Bolton on 9:23am Fri 1 Feb 08
[quote]I would prefer Nicholas Anelka!!![/quote]
I would prefer Anelka too ! I can't believe we sold him but that greedy b4strd chairmen for you isn't it !!
You think he's worth a punt though ? was he getting in your first team ??
I would prefer Nicholas Anelka!!!
I would prefer Anelka too ! I can't believe we sold him but that greedy b4strd chairmen for you isn't it !!
You think he's worth a punt though ? was he getting in your first team ??
Posted by: toxteth o'grady on 9:25am Fri 1 Feb 08
[quote][bold]exeter saint[/bold] wrote:
we still got viafara though who was the player i was really worried about loosing. Now maybe play him and safri in cm with hammill on the right and surman on the left.[/quote] We will still lose him...the loan window is still open !
Would the last person out of St Mary's please turn off the light.
exeter saint wrote:
we still got viafara though who was the player i was really worried about loosing. Now maybe play him and safri in cm with hammill on the right and surman on the left.
We will still lose him...the loan window is still open !
Would the last person out of St Mary's please turn off the light.
Posted by: Dave, Planet Earth on 9:29am Fri 1 Feb 08
Not too fussed by Rasiak's departure really. He's had enough of us that's for sure - and I can't blame him. Top scorer last season by a country mile and finds himself on the bench this time! He must be totally fed up, particularly with a Euro Championships on the horizon....We've got plenty of cover up front - maybe Euell could play there at some stage. He was originally a forward of some repute, if I recall. Certainly get him away from midfield in any case. Perhaps what is concerning me most here, is that although Skacel is essentially a left midfielder, he has been slotting in at fullback most of the times he's played this season. So, less than a week after Greg Vignal breaks his arm and is sidelined for a month, we let Skacel leave. All we have now at left back is the kid from Villa, who let's face it didn't look upto much anyway - and is only with us for a month anyway! What if Villa take him back without allowing us to extend? Makin, who could play at LB if necessary is still a month or so away and Wright, well say no more! All this just to save circa £150K!! A bit short sighted if you ask me. I just hope we don't live to regret it.
Not too fussed by Rasiak's departure really. He's had enough of us that's for sure - and I can't blame him. Top scorer last season by a country mile and finds himself on the bench this time! He must be totally fed up, particularly with a Euro Championships on the horizon....We've got plenty of cover up front - maybe Euell could play there at some stage. He was originally a forward of some repute, if I recall. Certainly get him away from midfield in any case. Perhaps what is concerning me most here, is that although Skacel is essentially a left midfielder, he has been slotting in at fullback most of the times he's played this season. So, less than a week after Greg Vignal breaks his arm and is sidelined for a month, we let Skacel leave. All we have now at left back is the kid from Villa, who let's face it didn't look upto much anyway - and is only with us for a month anyway! What if Villa take him back without allowing us to extend? Makin, who could play at LB if necessary is still a month or so away and Wright, well say no more! All this just to save circa £150K!! A bit short sighted if you ask me. I just hope we don't live to regret it.
Posted by: jannersaint, Plymuff on 9:31am Fri 1 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Automan[/bold] wrote:
As John Major would have said it's time to go back to basics. We've tried the big name foreign players and quite frankly it's not worked. If the youngsters are good then give them a chance. Lallana was good against Sheff W and was never seen again. Lancashire was courted by Liverpool- surely he's better than Powell. Maybe Gillet should be given a last chance too?[/quote] Glad I'm not the only one who thinks this. Add McGoldrick to the list and we're on the same wavelength. I would rather we played these lads and finished mid table. At least we would be achieving something in giving them first team experience. Who knows how good they might be next year and it would save us a fortune in the summer when we end up buying a load of has been journeymen.
Can't believe an earlier post about how long it's taking to appoint a new manager.....it must be at least a whole week since Burley went! Play the lads and get the right manager in.
Automan wrote:
As John Major would have said it's time to go back to basics. We've tried the big name foreign players and quite frankly it's not worked. If the youngsters are good then give them a chance. Lallana was good against Sheff W and was never seen again. Lancashire was courted by Liverpool- surely he's better than Powell. Maybe Gillet should be given a last chance too?
Glad I'm not the only one who thinks this. Add McGoldrick to the list and we're on the same wavelength. I would rather we played these lads and finished mid table. At least we would be achieving something in giving them first team experience. Who knows how good they might be next year and it would save us a fortune in the summer when we end up buying a load of has been journeymen.
Can't believe an earlier post about how long it's taking to appoint a new manager.....it must be at least a whole week since Burley went! Play the lads and get the right manager in.
Posted by: Moose on 9:52am Fri 1 Feb 08
I like most was horrified when i found out that we had got rid of Rasiak and Skacel, especially as we hadn't got anyone else in.
However after digesting the info i think this may not be as bad as it seems.
The board may have let them go so that they could get into euro2008? But it may also be so that if we do get a new manager soon he will have some wages to play with to enable him to get in some loans in the up and coming loan window?
Also, as has been mentioned previously, we all rave about our youth acadamy, it's time we used it! Lancashire, McGoldrick, Llalana, Baseya etc. do well in the reservers, give them their chance. After all they can't be any worse than Jermaine Sh1te!!
I like most was horrified when i found out that we had got rid of Rasiak and Skacel, especially as we hadn't got anyone else in.
However after digesting the info i think this may not be as bad as it seems.
The board may have let them go so that they could get into euro2008? But it may also be so that if we do get a new manager soon he will have some wages to play with to enable him to get in some loans in the up and coming loan window?
Also, as has been mentioned previously, we all rave about our youth acadamy, it's time we used it! Lancashire, McGoldrick, Llalana, Baseya etc. do well in the reservers, give them their chance. After all they can't be any worse than Jermaine Sh1te!!
Posted by: dave, millbrook on 9:54am Fri 1 Feb 08
LET'S NOT FORGET THE MAN WHO PUT US IN THIS NIGHTMARE POSITION IN THE FIRST PLACE - THAT R SOLE RUPERT LOWE.
GUILTY OF TURNING SFC INTO A SKINT, AVERAGE CHAMPIONSHIP SIDE!!!
LET'S NOT FORGET THE MAN WHO PUT US IN THIS NIGHTMARE POSITION IN THE FIRST PLACE - THAT R SOLE RUPERT LOWE.
GUILTY OF TURNING SFC INTO A SKINT, AVERAGE CHAMPIONSHIP SIDE!!!
Posted by: Fred, Southampton on 9:59am Fri 1 Feb 08
Agree with you Dave. I thought Rupert was a good chairman at one time, but that seems light years away now.
Unfortunately his influence appears to be almost as strong now.
Last one out please turn off the lights. We can save the planet even if the Saints are beyond hope.
Agree with you Dave. I thought Rupert was a good chairman at one time, but that seems light years away now.
Unfortunately his influence appears to be almost as strong now.
Last one out please turn off the lights. We can save the planet even if the Saints are beyond hope.
Posted by: John B, Bitterne on 10:01am Fri 1 Feb 08
[quote][bold]dave[/bold] wrote:
LET'S NOT FORGET THE MAN WHO PUT US IN THIS NIGHTMARE POSITION IN THE FIRST PLACE - THAT R SOLE RUPERT LOWE. GUILTY OF TURNING SFC INTO A SKINT, AVERAGE CHAMPIONSHIP SIDE!!![/quote] Nothing to do with the players or managers then
dave wrote:
LET'S NOT FORGET THE MAN WHO PUT US IN THIS NIGHTMARE POSITION IN THE FIRST PLACE - THAT R SOLE RUPERT LOWE. GUILTY OF TURNING SFC INTO A SKINT, AVERAGE CHAMPIONSHIP SIDE!!!
Nothing to do with the players or managers then
Posted by: Martin Orford on 10:03am Fri 1 Feb 08
Skacel won't be missed - he was a massive under-achiever. But despite what the critics say Rasiak was the only class player left in the side. Just watch him score hatfuls of goals for Bolton - they don't bother with all that patient build-up nonsense like we do and he'll thrive in a more direct team.
Should have cashed in on Surman instead - he's far too lightweight for the Championship.
By letting Rasiak go the board have conceded that we won't be going anywhere in the league or the cup this season - what decent manager will want to work for that bunch of losers?
Skacel won't be missed - he was a massive under-achiever. But despite what the critics say Rasiak was the only class player left in the side. Just watch him score hatfuls of goals for Bolton - they don't bother with all that patient build-up nonsense like we do and he'll thrive in a more direct team.
Should have cashed in on Surman instead - he's far too lightweight for the Championship.
By letting Rasiak go the board have conceded that we won't be going anywhere in the league or the cup this season - what decent manager will want to work for that bunch of losers?
Posted by: batista on 10:08am Fri 1 Feb 08
who's their replacements?
who's their replacements?
Posted by: mullingar on 10:13am Fri 1 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Martin Orford[/bold] wrote:
Skacel won't be missed - he was a massive under-achiever. But despite what the critics say Rasiak was the only class player left in the side. Just watch him score hatfuls of goals for Bolton - they don't bother with all that patient build-up nonsense like we do and he'll thrive in a more direct team. Should have cashed in on Surman instead - he's far too lightweight for the Championship. By letting Rasiak go the board have conceded that we won't be going anywhere in the league or the cup this season - what decent manager will want to work for that bunch of losers?[/quote] Gorman will be in charge until the end of the season!
Martin Orford wrote:
Skacel won't be missed - he was a massive under-achiever. But despite what the critics say Rasiak was the only class player left in the side. Just watch him score hatfuls of goals for Bolton - they don't bother with all that patient build-up nonsense like we do and he'll thrive in a more direct team. Should have cashed in on Surman instead - he's far too lightweight for the Championship. By letting Rasiak go the board have conceded that we won't be going anywhere in the league or the cup this season - what decent manager will want to work for that bunch of losers?
Gorman will be in charge until the end of the season!
Posted by: John, Pinner on 10:34am Fri 1 Feb 08
Glad to see the back of these two underachievers. They should have done more for this club and help us mount a challenge this year. Skacel was the biggest disappointment, coming to us with a big reputation he has never delivered and adds to the list of failed number 7's (
Kanchelskis!) since we decided not to retire the shirt after Le God. As for Rasiak, good goal ratio but never contributed as much as say Beattie used to. He will struggle in the Prem. The one I am concerned about keeping is Dyer, injured now, but contract up in the summer. It's time to start again and promoted some of the kids we hear so much about.
Glad to see the back of these two underachievers. They should have done more for this club and help us mount a challenge this year. Skacel was the biggest disappointment, coming to us with a big reputation he has never delivered and adds to the list of failed number 7's (
Kanchelskis!) since we decided not to retire the shirt after Le God. As for Rasiak, good goal ratio but never contributed as much as say Beattie used to. He will struggle in the Prem. The one I am concerned about keeping is Dyer, injured now, but contract up in the summer. It's time to start again and promoted some of the kids we hear so much about.
Posted by: Ted Stripes, Southampton on 10:35am Fri 1 Feb 08
Sale and Fire come to mind.
Look on the bright side -
All is not as it would seem at Farton Park. Having to borrow 24M, will Spuds get the money for German Deafo? Gaydaleks 40M has been spent.
Arry mate will always be ugly. FACT
Sale and Fire come to mind.
Look on the bright side -
All is not as it would seem at Farton Park. Having to borrow 24M, will Spuds get the money for German Deafo? Gaydaleks 40M has been spent.
Arry mate will always be ugly. FACT
Posted by: parky on 10:35am Fri 1 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Deano Bolton[/bold] wrote:
[quote]I would prefer Nicholas Anelka!!![/quote] I would prefer Anelka too ! I can't believe we sold him but that greedy b4strd chairmen for you isn't it !! You think he's worth a punt though ? was he getting in your first team ??[/quote] Rasiak is a half decent Championship player and thats all. He played for my team Derby a few seasons ago and did enough for Tottenham to sign him up for a couple of million but never really did anything for them,and then joined saints who were already in the Championship. He will score goals at this second level but not in the Prem as the standard now is even greater than when he was there a few seasons ago.
Question for Saints fans. If you had beat us and got into te Prem last season how do you think you would have fared. We have had an almighty struggle as you are aware but I feel it would have been a similar fate had any of the other 3 in the play offs been promoted. Its all about investment which we didnt follow up once promoted and here we are rock botom.
your thoughts.
Deano Bolton wrote:
I would prefer Nicholas Anelka!!!
I would prefer Anelka too ! I can't believe we sold him but that greedy b4strd chairmen for you isn't it !! You think he's worth a punt though ? was he getting in your first team ??
Rasiak is a half decent Championship player and thats all. He played for my team Derby a few seasons ago and did enough for Tottenham to sign him up for a couple of million but never really did anything for them,and then joined saints who were already in the Championship. He will score goals at this second level but not in the Prem as the standard now is even greater than when he was there a few seasons ago.
Question for Saints fans. If you had beat us and got into te Prem last season how do you think you would have fared. We have had an almighty struggle as you are aware but I feel it would have been a similar fate had any of the other 3 in the play offs been promoted. Its all about investment which we didnt follow up once promoted and here we are rock botom.
your thoughts.
Posted by: sailor sam, portsmouth on 10:42am Fri 1 Feb 08
CAN YOU LEARN FROM THE EXPERIENCE OF OTHERS?
When Pompey were facing relegation, they did not sit around in front of computer screens, bellyaching to one another, saying what a wicket world it was, the got off their rear-ends and contributed to a fund to buy the club.
A prospective owner was attracted to a club that had fans that would do something other than whinge about the Chairman, the manager, the ex-managers, the players and the tea lady. He knew that, with fans that were prepared to be POSITIVE rather than NEGATIVE, he could rebuild the club.
Between us, we went from old First Division strugglers, to top-half of the Premier League.
Liverpool! Their fans are not happy with their owners, so they are starting a find for a £500,000,000 yes FIVE HUNDRED MILLION POUND buy out. Not whinging to a site like this, but taking positive action.
Your City once claimed to be 'The gateway to the Empire'. Thousands, if not millions must have left these shores from your docks. Their last sight of England.
If you got off your backsides and did something other than moan about the board, moan about the managers, past and present, and moan about the players, past and present, maybe, just maybe your future would be brighter.
Instead of bleating about the board not spending money - set them a good example,
PUT YOUR HANDS IN YOUR POCKETS AND START A BUY-OUT FUND.
If you are not prepared to do that yourselves, how in heavens name can you criticise anyone else for being tight with money.
Just imagine, if you all spent the equivalent of 'the minimum wage' for every hour spent on this and other sites, you would be off to a good start!
THINK ABOUT IT!
CAN YOU LEARN FROM THE EXPERIENCE OF OTHERS?
When Pompey were facing relegation, they did not sit around in front of computer screens, bellyaching to one another, saying what a wicket world it was, the got off their rear-ends and contributed to a fund to buy the club.
A prospective owner was attracted to a club that had fans that would do something other than whinge about the Chairman, the manager, the ex-managers, the players and the tea lady. He knew that, with fans that were prepared to be POSITIVE rather than NEGATIVE, he could rebuild the club.
Between us, we went from old First Division strugglers, to top-half of the Premier League.
Liverpool! Their fans are not happy with their owners, so they are starting a find for a £500,000,000 yes FIVE HUNDRED MILLION POUND buy out. Not whinging to a site like this, but taking positive action.
Your City once claimed to be 'The gateway to the Empire'. Thousands, if not millions must have left these shores from your docks. Their last sight of England.
If you got off your backsides and did something other than moan about the board, moan about the managers, past and present, and moan about the players, past and present, maybe, just maybe your future would be brighter.
Instead of bleating about the board not spending money - set them a good example,
PUT YOUR HANDS IN YOUR POCKETS AND START A BUY-OUT FUND.
If you are not prepared to do that yourselves, how in heavens name can you criticise anyone else for being tight with money.
Just imagine, if you all spent the equivalent of 'the minimum wage' for every hour spent on this and other sites, you would be off to a good start!
THINK ABOUT IT!
Posted by: Kate, Andover on 10:48am Fri 1 Feb 08
[quote][bold]parky[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Deano Bolton[/bold] wrote: [quote]I would prefer Nicholas Anelka!!![/quote] I would prefer Anelka too ! I can't believe we sold him but that greedy b4strd chairmen for you isn't it !! You think he's worth a punt though ? was he getting in your first team ??[/quote] Rasiak is a half decent Championship player and thats all. He played for my team Derby a few seasons ago and did enough for Tottenham to sign him up for a couple of million but never really did anything for them,and then joined saints who were already in the Championship. He will score goals at this second level but not in the Prem as the standard now is even greater than when he was there a few seasons ago. Question for Saints fans. If you had beat us and got into te Prem last season how do you think you would have fared. We have had an almighty struggle as you are aware but I feel it would have been a similar fate had any of the other 3 in the play offs been promoted. Its all about investment which we didnt follow up once promoted and here we are rock botom. your thoughts.[/quote] Hate to say it Parky, but I think you're right, we would have struggled in the Prem this season. The gap between Championship and Premiership football is getting so much bigger that every year the it's more likely that even if you've blitzed the Championship, you'll struggle in the Prem.
Knowing SFC, they might not have attracted any decent investment and even then, being a club coming up through the play-offs, you don't always attract decent players to keep you in the Premiership.
From one football fan to another, I feel bad for you but I'm kinda glad it's not us. All you can do is build on it for next year to try again.
That's if we don't get there first..... ;-)
parky wrote:
Deano Bolton wrote: I would prefer Nicholas Anelka!!!
I would prefer Anelka too ! I can't believe we sold him but that greedy b4strd chairmen for you isn't it !! You think he's worth a punt though ? was he getting in your first team ??
Rasiak is a half decent Championship player and thats all. He played for my team Derby a few seasons ago and did enough for Tottenham to sign him up for a couple of million but never really did anything for them,and then joined saints who were already in the Championship. He will score goals at this second level but not in the Prem as the standard now is even greater than when he was there a few seasons ago. Question for Saints fans. If you had beat us and got into te Prem last season how do you think you would have fared. We have had an almighty struggle as you are aware but I feel it would have been a similar fate had any of the other 3 in the play offs been promoted. Its all about investment which we didnt follow up once promoted and here we are rock botom. your thoughts.
Hate to say it Parky, but I think you're right, we would have struggled in the Prem this season. The gap between Championship and Premiership football is getting so much bigger that every year the it's more likely that even if you've blitzed the Championship, you'll struggle in the Prem.
Knowing SFC, they might not have attracted any decent investment and even then, being a club coming up through the play-offs, you don't always attract decent players to keep you in the Premiership.
From one football fan to another, I feel bad for you but I'm kinda glad it's not us. All you can do is build on it for next year to try again.
That's if we don't get there first..... ;-)
Posted by: gay jim, leigh park on 10:55am Fri 1 Feb 08
sam are you not talking 2 me hunny? why are you playing hard to get? is your partner watching the site? you told me that you n him had split up.
please please get back too me before i hurt myself like i did when i heard footballers wifes had finished and when kylie wed jason in neighbours, b£$ch
sam are you not talking 2 me hunny? why are you playing hard to get? is your partner watching the site? you told me that you n him had split up.
please please get back too me before i hurt myself like i did when i heard footballers wifes had finished and when kylie wed jason in neighbours, b£$ch
Posted by: Southampton on 11:00am Fri 1 Feb 08
[quote]Posted by: sailor sam, portsmouth on 10:42am today
CAN YOU LEARN FROM THE EXPERIENCE OF OTHERS? When Pompey were facing relegation, they did not sit around in front of computer screens, bellyaching to one another, saying what a wicket world it was, the got off their rear-ends and contributed to a fund to buy the club. A prospective owner was attracted to a club that had fans that would do something other than whinge about the Chairman, the manager, the ex-managers, the players and the tea lady. He knew that, with fans that were prepared to be POSITIVE rather than NEGATIVE, he could rebuild the club. Between us, we went from old First Division strugglers, to top-half of the Premier League. Liverpool! Their fans are not happy with their owners, so they are starting a find for a £500,000,000 yes FIVE HUNDRED MILLION POUND buy out. Not whinging to a site like this, but taking positive action. Your City once claimed to be 'The gateway to the Empire'. Thousands, if not millions must have left these shores from your docks. Their last sight of England. If you got off your backsides and did something other than moan about the board, moan about the managers, past and present, and moan about the players, past and present, maybe, just maybe your future would be brighter. Instead of bleating about the board not spending money - set them a good example, PUT YOUR HANDS IN YOUR POCKETS AND START A BUY-OUT FUND. If you are not prepared to do that yourselves, how in heavens name can you criticise anyone else for being tight with money. Just imagine, if you all spent the equivalent of 'the minimum wage' for every hour spent on this and other sites, you would be off to a good start! THINK ABOUT IT!
CAN YOU LEARN FROM THE EXPERIENCE OF OTHERS?
When Pompey were facing relegation, they did not sit around in front of computer screens, bellyaching to one another, saying what a wicket world it was, the got off their rear-ends and contributed to a fund to buy the club.
A prospective owner was attracted to a club that had fans that would do something other than whinge about the Chairman, the manager, the ex-managers, the players and the tea lady. He knew that, with fans that were prepared to be POSITIVE rather than NEGATIVE, he could rebuild the club.
Between us, we went from old First Division strugglers, to top-half of the Premier League.
Liverpool! Their fans are not happy with their owners, so they are starting a find for a £500,000,000 yes FIVE HUNDRED MILLION POUND buy out. Not whinging to a site like this, but taking positive action.
Your City once claimed to be 'The gateway to the Empire'. Thousands, if not millions must have left these shores from your docks. Their last sight of England.
If you got off your backsides and did something other than moan about the board, moan about the managers, past and present, and moan about the players, past and present, maybe, just maybe your future would be brighter.
Instead of bleating about the board not spending money - set them a good example,
PUT YOUR HANDS IN YOUR POCKETS AND START A BUY-OUT FUND.
If you are not prepared to do that yourselves, how in heavens name can you criticise anyone else for being tight with money.
Just imagine, if you all spent the equivalent of 'the minimum wage' for every hour spent on this and other sites, you would be off to a good start!
THINK ABOUT IT![/quote]
Listen filth! Look at your filthy money being used to buy a team, with the filthy back hander excuse of a manager, using and laundering filthy money from filthy deals done by a filthy benefactor, in the filthiest city in Britain and Europe, with your filthy yobs in their filthy houses. The next time filth like you need a lesson in anything from how to run a family club to washing your filthy selves, look at beautiful Southampton with it's beautiful parks, beautiful people beautiful family club and beatiful family values.
filthmouth filth!
Posted by: sailor sam, portsmouth on 10:42am today
CAN YOU LEARN FROM THE EXPERIENCE OF OTHERS? When Pompey were facing relegation, they did not sit around in front of computer screens, bellyaching to one another, saying what a wicket world it was, the got off their rear-ends and contributed to a fund to buy the club. A prospective owner was attracted to a club that had fans that would do something other than whinge about the Chairman, the manager, the ex-managers, the players and the tea lady. He knew that, with fans that were prepared to be POSITIVE rather than NEGATIVE, he could rebuild the club. Between us, we went from old First Division strugglers, to top-half of the Premier League. Liverpool! Their fans are not happy with their owners, so they are starting a find for a £500,000,000 yes FIVE HUNDRED MILLION POUND buy out. Not whinging to a site like this, but taking positive action. Your City once claimed to be 'The gateway to the Empire'. Thousands, if not millions must have left these shores from your docks. Their last sight of England. If you got off your backsides and did something other than moan about the board, moan about the managers, past and present, and moan about the players, past and present, maybe, just maybe your future would be brighter. Instead of bleating about the board not spending money - set them a good example, PUT YOUR HANDS IN YOUR POCKETS AND START A BUY-OUT FUND. If you are not prepared to do that yourselves, how in heavens name can you criticise anyone else for being tight with money. Just imagine, if you all spent the equivalent of 'the minimum wage' for every hour spent on this and other sites, you would be off to a good start! THINK ABOUT IT!
CAN YOU LEARN FROM THE EXPERIENCE OF OTHERS?
When Pompey were facing relegation, they did not sit around in front of computer screens, bellyaching to one another, saying what a wicket world it was, the got off their rear-ends and contributed to a fund to buy the club.
A prospective owner was attracted to a club that had fans that would do something other than whinge about the Chairman, the manager, the ex-managers, the players and the tea lady. He knew that, with fans that were prepared to be POSITIVE rather than NEGATIVE, he could rebuild the club.
Between us, we went from old First Division strugglers, to top-half of the Premier League.
Liverpool! Their fans are not happy with their owners, so they are starting a find for a £500,000,000 yes FIVE HUNDRED MILLION POUND buy out. Not whinging to a site like this, but taking positive action.
Your City once claimed to be 'The gateway to the Empire'. Thousands, if not millions must have left these shores from your docks. Their last sight of England.
If you got off your backsides and did something other than moan about the board, moan about the managers, past and present, and moan about the players, past and present, maybe, just maybe your future would be brighter.
Instead of bleating about the board not spending money - set them a good example,
PUT YOUR HANDS IN YOUR POCKETS AND START A BUY-OUT FUND.
If you are not prepared to do that yourselves, how in heavens name can you criticise anyone else for being tight with money.
Just imagine, if you all spent the equivalent of 'the minimum wage' for every hour spent on this and other sites, you would be off to a good start!
THINK ABOUT IT!
Listen filth! Look at your filthy money being used to buy a team, with the filthy back hander excuse of a manager, using and laundering filthy money from filthy deals done by a filthy benefactor, in the filthiest city in Britain and Europe, with your filthy yobs in their filthy houses. The next time filth like you need a lesson in anything from how to run a family club to washing your filthy selves, look at beautiful Southampton with it's beautiful parks, beautiful people beautiful family club and beatiful family values.
filthmouth filth!
Posted by: BARRY THE KNUCKLE, HERE, THERE EVERYWHERE on 11:07am Fri 1 Feb 08
WHO KEEPS REMOVING MY POSTS?
IT MAKES ME MAD, YOU WONT LIKE ME WHEN IM MAD.
BET ITS SAILOR SAM'S EX BOYFREIND WHO MONITORS IT
WHO KEEPS REMOVING MY POSTS?
IT MAKES ME MAD, YOU WONT LIKE ME WHEN IM MAD.
BET ITS SAILOR SAM'S EX BOYFREIND WHO MONITORS IT
Posted by: Matt le Tiss love child, Southampton on 11:14am Fri 1 Feb 08
Sailor Sam, we dont need your advice, neither do we need you bleeting on about buying out our beloved Saints. You must be pretty bored reading it all, so best leave it and go back to bed with your sister.
Saints need a new manager asap, Coleman is the man - he needs to get the team fit, doesnt have to be pretty football in the championship, grind out results through hard work. I hate to say it, but Warnock got it right, when he went in at Palace and threw in the youngsters, they wanted to impress. Has-beens like Jermaine Wright....and esp Powell (what an absolute joke) will have to up their game or face playing in the reserves.
Sailor Sam, we dont need your advice, neither do we need you bleeting on about buying out our beloved Saints. You must be pretty bored reading it all, so best leave it and go back to bed with your sister.
Saints need a new manager asap, Coleman is the man - he needs to get the team fit, doesnt have to be pretty football in the championship, grind out results through hard work. I hate to say it, but Warnock got it right, when he went in at Palace and threw in the youngsters, they wanted to impress. Has-beens like Jermaine Wright....and esp Powell (what an absolute joke) will have to up their game or face playing in the reserves.
Posted by: EMJ, FARNBORO on 11:20am Fri 1 Feb 08
LOOK on the brightside we still have Euell, Idiakez,Powell and BWP!!! not to mention half a dozen other sick injured or useless and skiving- just how long does it take to get back from Morocco? Ah and no manager- the future is bright!!! These 2 departures have made me lose all faith overnight that this club has any ambition or any idea.
LOOK on the brightside we still have Euell, Idiakez,Powell and BWP!!! not to mention half a dozen other sick injured or useless and skiving- just how long does it take to get back from Morocco? Ah and no manager- the future is bright!!! These 2 departures have made me lose all faith overnight that this club has any ambition or any idea.
Posted by: Jason, Salisbury on 11:21am Fri 1 Feb 08
[quote][bold]BARRY THE KNUCKLE[/bold] wrote:
WHO KEEPS REMOVING MY POSTS?
IT MAKES ME MAD, YOU WONT LIKE ME WHEN IM MAD.
BET ITS SAILOR SAM'S EX BOYFREIND WHO MONITORS IT[/quote] DEAR BARRY, DAVE AND JOHN B, CAN YOU HELP? MY CAPS LOCK KEY IS JAMMED ON AND IT'S REALLY ANNOYING. YOU SEEM TO BE EXPERIENCING A SIMILAR PROBLEM.
BARRY THE KNUCKLE wrote:
WHO KEEPS REMOVING MY POSTS?
IT MAKES ME MAD, YOU WONT LIKE ME WHEN IM MAD.
BET ITS SAILOR SAM'S EX BOYFREIND WHO MONITORS IT
DEAR BARRY, DAVE AND JOHN B, CAN YOU HELP? MY CAPS LOCK KEY IS JAMMED ON AND IT'S REALLY ANNOYING. YOU SEEM TO BE EXPERIENCING A SIMILAR PROBLEM.
Posted by: robin nottinghamsaint, nottingham on 11:28am Fri 1 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Alan[/bold] wrote:
Lets honestly look at the facts. I am a saints fan and i really dont know how people can come on here and say that we are better than pompey?? There is no way in the world we are, they can attract players like Defoe, Nugent, Glen Johnson, Utaka and we cant even get Daily or infact anyone. I think we all know what would happen if we played each other tomorrow wudnt we and it wouldnt be pretty for us!!!!!!! I think we just need to accept that we are now a second rate Championship club and unless we get a vast amount of Investment thats what we will always be!!!!!!![/quote] Spot on, also we cannot attract a manager. Saints site very quiet on all things as usual.
Alan wrote:
Lets honestly look at the facts. I am a saints fan and i really dont know how people can come on here and say that we are better than pompey?? There is no way in the world we are, they can attract players like Defoe, Nugent, Glen Johnson, Utaka and we cant even get Daily or infact anyone. I think we all know what would happen if we played each other tomorrow wudnt we and it wouldnt be pretty for us!!!!!!! I think we just need to accept that we are now a second rate Championship club and unless we get a vast amount of Investment thats what we will always be!!!!!!!
Spot on, also we cannot attract a manager. Saints site very quiet on all things as usual.
Posted by: kentishstain, ashford on 11:30am Fri 1 Feb 08
Coleman has said he doesn't want the job, who does with the club on the brink of administration. Forced to let the best players go out on loan, desperate for loan fees and to reduce the wage bill. No point in appointing a new manager as Saints can't afford
his wages. Might as well wait until after administration and relegation so the new manager can start from scratch.
Coleman has said he doesn't want the job, who does with the club on the brink of administration. Forced to let the best players go out on loan, desperate for loan fees and to reduce the wage bill. No point in appointing a new manager as Saints can't afford
his wages. Might as well wait until after administration and relegation so the new manager can start from scratch.
Posted by: steve on 11:31am Fri 1 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Kate[/bold] wrote:
Firstly, Rasiak and Skacel WANTED to go, to further their international careers. Can't blame them, they're not getting any younger!! Secondly, they weren't really part of the first team anymore so I don't think it's a huge loss. Don't get me wrong, I would rather they'd have stayed but that's their decision. I'm just glad we kept hold of the others! I don't think we need money to survive on a day to day basis but we are a club that has no more parachute payments and not much else to cover it so it all helps. So when Crouch says we're fine, we probably are. But a little bit of extra cash won't hurt. I'll be at Palace tomorrow and will be looking forward to the way the team plays. I reckon if they go with pretty much the same team/formation as Tuesday, we could do well. COYR!![/quote] Couldn't agree more!!!!!!!
Rudi has never been the "force" every one said he would be (rather Neil MCcan was he not?).Rasiak looked like he was a 20 a day man.
We have very little change of going up this year, so all the new guy has to do is keep us up (should be easy in theory) and plan for next year.
Staying away, no matter how bad we feel, is not helping.
Oh and can we stop playing Euell?
Please!!!!
Kate wrote:
Firstly, Rasiak and Skacel WANTED to go, to further their international careers. Can't blame them, they're not getting any younger!! Secondly, they weren't really part of the first team anymore so I don't think it's a huge loss. Don't get me wrong, I would rather they'd have stayed but that's their decision. I'm just glad we kept hold of the others! I don't think we need money to survive on a day to day basis but we are a club that has no more parachute payments and not much else to cover it so it all helps. So when Crouch says we're fine, we probably are. But a little bit of extra cash won't hurt. I'll be at Palace tomorrow and will be looking forward to the way the team plays. I reckon if they go with pretty much the same team/formation as Tuesday, we could do well. COYR!!
Couldn't agree more!!!!!!!
Rudi has never been the "force" every one said he would be (rather Neil MCcan was he not?).Rasiak looked like he was a 20 a day man.
We have very little change of going up this year, so all the new guy has to do is keep us up (should be easy in theory) and plan for next year.
Staying away, no matter how bad we feel, is not helping.
Oh and can we stop playing Euell?
Please!!!!
Posted by: Jason, Salisbury on 11:42am Fri 1 Feb 08
I think last night and this morning is the time when reality has really set in for many Saints fans, including me.
We really are desperate cash wise. Watching our friends down the road sign Defoe and keep their other £8 million man while we off-load two of our best players without an immediate fee, just to cut the wage bill.
It's also a sad explanation for the sudden motivation of Rasiak and Skacel in midweek.
I agree that we probably can't afford to bring in a new manager on this evidence and I doubt we would attract a decent candidate anyway.
Coleman was on TV talking about the importance of having a good relationship with the chairman, so that pretty much rules him out.
What last night did do was to give us all a taste of how Burley must have felt every transfer window.
We've got no manager to blame now, so it becomes even more obvious where the root of the problem lies.
In this environment, how could we expect the fans manager and players to be confident and motivated.
It's becoming increasingly difficult to fight, but that's exactly the spirit a new manager will need to bring.
I think we're all just sitting around waiting for a miracle to happen, but I only hope the board is taking a proactive approach to doing just that before any attraction the club could have to potential investors is lost.
I think last night and this morning is the time when reality has really set in for many Saints fans, including me.
We really are desperate cash wise. Watching our friends down the road sign Defoe and keep their other £8 million man while we off-load two of our best players without an immediate fee, just to cut the wage bill.
It's also a sad explanation for the sudden motivation of Rasiak and Skacel in midweek.
I agree that we probably can't afford to bring in a new manager on this evidence and I doubt we would attract a decent candidate anyway.
Coleman was on TV talking about the importance of having a good relationship with the chairman, so that pretty much rules him out.
What last night did do was to give us all a taste of how Burley must have felt every transfer window.
We've got no manager to blame now, so it becomes even more obvious where the root of the problem lies.
In this environment, how could we expect the fans manager and players to be confident and motivated.
It's becoming increasingly difficult to fight, but that's exactly the spirit a new manager will need to bring.
I think we're all just sitting around waiting for a miracle to happen, but I only hope the board is taking a proactive approach to doing just that before any attraction the club could have to potential investors is lost.
Posted by: simon, romsey on 11:43am Fri 1 Feb 08
[quote][bold]Itchen Saint[/bold] wrote:
Bolton Supported must be pleased getting Rasiak to replace Annelka I did not realise he was that good. Both player\\\'s want to go to Euro 2008 so they must have been pessurising Saints for a Transfer[/quote] After sleeping on it, I think its good business sense, both reportly on around 10-12k per week, Saves us half a million in wages for rest of this season, plus get prob £2m each in the summer cos they both had 2.1/2 years left on contract, it’s a shame but end of the day, skacel didn’t tear the place up as expected, and rasiak is mostly on the bench, says it all really that he played best game ive seen him play on tues, prob playing for a move! Big chance for saganowski now and mcgoldrick to step up to the plate. We still have decent strikers (providing saga can rediscover his form from last season and early this season).
Viafara and safri now back aswell so its not all bad.
Itchen Saint wrote:
Bolton Supported must be pleased getting Rasiak to replace Annelka I did not realise he was that good. Both player's want to go to Euro 2008 so they must have been pessurising Saints for a Transfer
After sleeping on it, I think its good business sense, both reportly on around 10-12k per week, Saves us half a million in wages for rest of this season, plus get prob £2m each in the summer cos they both had 2.1/2 years left on contract, it’s a shame but end of the day, skacel didn’t tear the place up as expected, and rasiak is mostly on the bench, says it all really that he played best game ive seen him play on tues, prob playing for a move! Big chance for saganowski now and mcgoldrick to step up to the plate. We still have decent strikers (providing saga can rediscover his form from last season and early this season).
Viafara and safri now back aswell so its not all bad.
Posted by: melbournesaint, Australia on 11:46am Fri 1 Feb 08
The stadium must be insured someone throw a match on it, just ask some pompey idot they'd do it. We can play the remaining games at stoneham!!!
The stadium must be insured someone throw a match on it, just ask some pompey idot they'd do it. We can play the remaining games at stoneham!!!
Posted by: Ron Durrant, Carshalton Boys Sports College on 11:55am Fri 1 Feb 08
Is anyone really surprised at the players going out on loan? Until we get a 'Sugar Daddy' then drastic action by the board has got to be taken.
Relegation from the Premier league and failure to get back up within two years is the reason for our plight. Yes, there are reasons behind our demise, but until someone or a consortium arrives on our doorstep, we will continue on this rocky road. It is a fact of life now that MONEY is driving football. Yes, we all want success, a new manager, but until our financial plight is solved, we will remain in the doldrums.
Nothing would please us all to see the Saints rising out of the storm we are stuck in, but come on Saints fans, all we can do is support the club by turning up every week and paying our money. Three times over the last four weeks i have completed a round trip of 160 miles. A trip costs me about £50.00 a time.
One idea.... DROP PRICES a little and fill the ground. WE ARE THE TWELVE MAN WHO CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. The money will balance and what a fantastic atmosphere.
Is anyone really surprised at the players going out on loan? Until we get a 'Sugar Daddy' then drastic action by the board has got to be taken.
Relegation from the Premier league and failure to get back up within two years is the reason for our plight. Yes, there are reasons behind our demise, but until someone or a consortium arrives on our doorstep, we will continue on this rocky road. It is a fact of life now that MONEY is driving football. Yes, we all want success, a new manager, but until our financial plight is solved, we will remain in the doldrums.
Nothing would please us all to see the Saints rising out of the storm we are stuck in, but come on Saints fans, all we can do is support the club by turning up every week and paying our money. Three times over the last four weeks i have completed a round trip of 160 miles. A trip costs me about £50.00 a time.
One idea.... DROP PRICES a little and fill the ground. WE ARE THE TWELVE MAN WHO CAN MAKE A DIFFERENCE. The money will balance and what a fantastic atmosphere.
Posted by: Barcelona Saint, Barcelona on 11:56am Fri 1 Feb 08
[bold]bold[/bold] Who gives a toss if he's concerned about getting in the Poland team. Poland are hardly a class act. If he's scoring goals for us, he'll get in the team.
Club before country! That's who pays your wages!
Adios
Who gives a toss if he's concerned about getting in the Poland team. Poland are hardly a class act. If he's scoring goals for us, he'll get in the team.
Club before country! That's who pays your wages!
Adios
Posted by: Moaners are you happy, heading for league 1 on 11:58am Fri 1 Feb 08
Just typical of new wave saints fans. They don't know whats good for the club. Last season on Rasiak's back even though he was nearing the top scorer in the league and they moan he only scores goals. Where would we have been without the goals - about 14th or lower? The moaners wanted someone more athletic saying they would score the goals easily if played instead of Rasiak - well look whats happened this year 8 goals from BWP who doesn't know what the offside rule is. I prefer the [italic]"lazy"[/italic] guy who scored about 20 by this time last year. At least Rasiak knew how to get into a good position without wasting good build up play by not watching the defensive line.
No wonder he's gone - what more could you ask for when you pay 2m.
Also Skacel not living up to his potential - again last season on the wing he was one of the highest ranked left wingers in the league. More assists than any other player in the team. Doesn't get enough football this year and played in defence and he is now branded a failure. Quite frankly he will be missed because we have already missed a good winger with dangerous crosses this season.
The reason they both left is because they weren't getting first team football week in week out. Can somebody honestly tell me who has been better on the left wing and up front.
All those calling for the kids to play - don't worry next year the team will all be kids. By the time they hit form we will have about 9000 through the gates each week in League 1.
I don't agree we would have struggled like Derby in the prem - maybe struggled but at least we were playing good football as opposed to long ball physical play which is why they've been so poor this season.
I expect silence from the moaners when we get beat tommorrow as they've got what they want in terms of team selection.
Just typical of new wave saints fans. They don't know whats good for the club. Last season on Rasiak's back even though he was nearing the top scorer in the league and they moan he only scores goals. Where would we have been without the goals - about 14th or lower? The moaners wanted someone more athletic saying they would score the goals easily if played instead of Rasiak - well look whats happened this year 8 goals from BWP who doesn't know what the offside rule is. I prefer the
"lazy" guy who scored about 20 by this time last year. At least Rasiak knew how to get into a good position without wasting good build up play by not watching the defensive line.
No wonder he's gone - what more could you ask for when you pay 2m.
Also Skacel not living up to his potential - again last season on the wing he was one of the highest ranked left wingers in the league. More assists than any other player in the team. Doesn't get enough football this year and played in defence and he is now branded a failure. Quite frankly he will be missed because we have already missed a good winger with dangerous crosses this season.
The reason they both left is because they weren't getting first team football week in week out. Can somebody honestly tell me who has been better on the left wing and up front.
All those calling for the kids to play - don't worry next year the team will all be kids. By the time they hit form we will have about 9000 through the gates each week in League 1.
I don't agree we would have struggled like Derby in the prem - maybe struggled but at least we were playing good football as opposed to long ball physical play which is why they've been so poor this season.
I expect silence from the moaners when we get beat tommorrow as they've got what they want in terms of team selection.
Posted by: AT, Soton, on 11:59am Fri 1 Feb 08
How much further can Crouch and Wilde drag this club? Since the day they took over things have gone from bad to worse and now even the players want out.
If Crouch is so bothered about new investment then he should ask his great mate Trant about his phoney promises to money into the club. As witnessed by many Saints fans in the Northam Club, June 2006.
Chancers the lot of them, who are more worried about their own egoes than this club.
How much further can Crouch and Wilde drag this club? Since the day they took over things have gone from bad to worse and now even the players want out.
If Crouch is so bothered about new investment then he should ask his great mate Trant about his phoney promises to money into the club. As witnessed by many Saints fans in the Northam Club, June 2006.
Chancers the lot of them, who are more worried about their own egoes than this club.
Posted by: Jason, Salisbury on 11:59am Fri 1 Feb 08
On a positive note, it's good to see Dodd and Gorman seem to have a better understanding of our strongest team.
It was fairly obvious that, without Dyer available, we need BWP's pace, but he's not worth a striking place.
They recognised that and went for the three, with one tucking into midfield when needed, so fair play. Just depends whether Saga can now step up and convince us he's actually worth a place in that formation, but I'd like to think he'd be worth a decent run, which is more than he's had all season.
That gives me faith that Viafara and Safri will form our central partnership when fit, with Surman or Hammill slotting in on the wing and BWP on the other side.
Then there's Dyer to come back and McGoldrick to come in.
So actually, things don't look that bad as long as we don't have too many injuries at the back.
A new keeper would help though.
On a positive note, it's good to see Dodd and Gorman seem to have a better understanding of our strongest team.
It was fairly obvious that, without Dyer available, we need BWP's pace, but he's not worth a striking place.
They recognised that and went for the three, with one tucking into midfield when needed, so fair play. Just depends whether Saga can now step up and convince us he's actually worth a place in that formation, but I'd like to think he'd be worth a decent run, which is more than he's had all season.
That gives me faith that Viafara and Safri will form our central partnership when fit, with Surman or Hammill slotting in on the wing and BWP on the other side.
Then there's Dyer to come back and McGoldrick to come in.
So actually, things don't look that bad as long as we don't have too many injuries at the back.
A new keeper would help though.
Posted by: Mark Lampard, southampton on 12:07pm Fri 1 Feb 08
hi all
ok i have been reading the comments from the fans on here and it has made me think of what has been mentioned about Liverpool and their management structure. Until we are more stable we have to concede defeat to pompey of being the best team in the south but if we are not happy with the way OUR club is being run thats lets run the club ourseleves. y dont a consurtuim of fans all group together and oust the idiots that we have at the moment AND LET US TAKE CHARGE OF OUR CLUB. bring it on. however we have to be realistic it aint going to happe n over nite
hi all
ok i have been reading the comments from the fans on here and it has made me think of what has been mentioned about Liverpool and their management structure.
