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Saints confirm Lowe contact
Following revelations in today's Daily Echo, Saints have confirmed that Rupert Lowe has contacted the club.
The Echo today reported that former chairmen Lowe and Michael Wilde were preparing to team up to try and regain power at St Mary's in a move which would threaten the position of chairman Leon Crouch.
This afternoon the club put an official statement to the Stock Exchange which read: "Following the article which appeared in today's Southern Daily Echo regarding Rupert Lowe and Michael Wilde, the Company confirms that it has been contacted by Mr Lowe.
"The Board of Southampton has asked Mr Lowe for a detailed proposal setting out his intentions for the Company which it has not yet received. Further announcements will be made in due course as and when necessary."
In an earlier statement released to the press Saints had been rather more circumspect and made a thinly veiled attack on Lowe and Wilde over the timing of their possible plans.
The statement read: "The Club are aware of the article which appeared in the Southern Daily Echo today regarding Rupert Lowe and Michael Wilde.
"There is no intention to make any comment at this time as the board have not yet been required in writing to consider any proposal.
"All that matters at this stage of the season is the concentration of everyone (board, staff, manager, players and fans) upon the match against Coventry on Saturday and the need to succeed both then and in the following weeks.
"No true fan of the club or responsible shareholder could credibly identify themselves with such a controversial proposal at so delicate a time."
4:20pm Wednesday 19th March 2008
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CommentPosted by: EVALUTION on 4:25pm Wed 19 Mar 08
tell him to p1ss off
Posted by: Chris, soton on 4:36pm Wed 19 Mar 08
Ok, lets be realistic here. Some of the best times recently were under Lowe. New stadium, FA Cup and Wembley. Ok, we all know that failure to invest after the FA Cup and too many managerial changes cost us in the long run but you know, Redknapp was ultimately responsible for relegation (we should never have gone down with that squad) and for destabilising us afterwards. I think that we all agree that when Lowe appointed Strachan, Hoddle, Redknapp and Burley we were all very pleased at the time. It was all the other odd appointments we could never fathom (Gray, Wigley, even Sturrock).
My point is this - was life so bad under Lowe? we're not the only club to have lost Premiership status recently and it was good odds it was going to happen sometime. We were also always very financially stable and we good a great deal with Theo under the circumstances. Just think we should use our heads before we jump up and down shouting.
I now look forward to being vilified on this site!
Ok, lets be realistic here. Some of the best times recently were under Lowe. New stadium, FA Cup and Wembley. Ok, we all know that failure to invest after the FA Cup and too many managerial changes cost us in the long run but you know, Redknapp was ultimately responsible for relegation (we should never have gone down with that squad) and for destabilising us afterwards. I think that we all agree that when Lowe appointed Strachan, Hoddle, Redknapp and Burley we were all very pleased at the time. It was all the other odd appointments we could never fathom (Gray, Wigley, even Sturrock).
My point is this - was life so bad under Lowe? we're not the only club to have lost Premiership status recently and it was good odds it was going to happen sometime. We were also always very financially stable and we good a great deal with Theo under the circumstances. Just think we should use our heads before we jump up and down shouting.
I now look forward to being vilified on this site!
Posted by: Chris, Soton on 4:41pm Wed 19 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Chris[/bold] wrote:
Ok, lets be realistic here. Some of the best times recently were under Lowe. New stadium, FA Cup and Wembley. Ok, we all know that failure to invest after the FA Cup and too many managerial changes cost us in the long run but you know, Redknapp was ultimately responsible for relegation (we should never have gone down with that squad) and for destabilising us afterwards. I think that we all agree that when Lowe appointed Strachan, Hoddle, Redknapp and Burley we were all very pleased at the time. It was all the other odd appointments we could never fathom (Gray, Wigley, even Sturrock). My point is this - was life so bad under Lowe? we're not the only club to have lost Premiership status recently and it was good odds it was going to happen sometime. We were also always very financially stable and we good a great deal with Theo under the circumstances. Just think we should use our heads before we jump up and down shouting. I now look forward to being vilified on this site![/quote] p.s. just to add balance to my comments I am under no illusion that this is motivated by a fear of losing his share price.
Chris wrote:
Ok, lets be realistic here. Some of the best times recently were under Lowe. New stadium, FA Cup and Wembley. Ok, we all know that failure to invest after the FA Cup and too many managerial changes cost us in the long run but you know, Redknapp was ultimately responsible for relegation (we should never have gone down with that squad) and for destabilising us afterwards. I think that we all agree that when Lowe appointed Strachan, Hoddle, Redknapp and Burley we were all very pleased at the time. It was all the other odd appointments we could never fathom (Gray, Wigley, even Sturrock). My point is this - was life so bad under Lowe? we're not the only club to have lost Premiership status recently and it was good odds it was going to happen sometime. We were also always very financially stable and we good a great deal with Theo under the circumstances. Just think we should use our heads before we jump up and down shouting. I now look forward to being vilified on this site!
p.s. just to add balance to my comments I am under no illusion that this is motivated by a fear of losing his share price.
Posted by: Alan, Wellingborough on 4:42pm Wed 19 Mar 08
I think we need to look at any offer at this stage. We need to take the personalities out of the equation. After all, if we go down, lose our few remaining players and then go into administration, it won't be Rupert Low's fault. We must do whatever is in the best interests of our club. Otherwise we will have no club to support very soon!!
I think we need to look at any offer at this stage. We need to take the personalities out of the equation. After all, if we go down, lose our few remaining players and then go into administration, it won't be Rupert Low's fault. We must do whatever is in the best interests of our club. Otherwise we will have no club to support very soon!!
Posted by: dave, southampton on 4:42pm Wed 19 Mar 08
if lowe or wilde felt anything for this club they would not be doing this now.
we need to win on saturday and this only gets in the way of that.
the pair of clowns have shown their true colours.
they are absolute scum
if lowe or wilde felt anything for this club they would not be doing this now.
we need to win on saturday and this only gets in the way of that.
the pair of clowns have shown their true colours.
they are absolute scum
Posted by: Nick, Woolston on 4:46pm Wed 19 Mar 08
I totally agree with you Chris!
Lowe has taken ALL the flak even when the board when against HIS wishes.
IF we were still in the Prem most people would be happy, it is just easier to blame it all on him.
I totally agree with you Chris!
Lowe has taken ALL the flak even when the board when against HIS wishes.
IF we were still in the Prem most people would be happy, it is just easier to blame it all on him.
Posted by: nut job, southamption on 4:46pm Wed 19 Mar 08
tell him to get **** hes a lowe life ****
tell him to get **** hes a lowe life ****
Posted by: Costa Baz on 4:52pm Wed 19 Mar 08
Chris, not going to vilify you as we're all entitled to an opinion. Mine is that you, me and most sensible people could have kept the club financially stable, whilst they were in the premier league, simply because Sky tv were throwing money at all the clubs. I know several people believe we shouldn't have gone down under Redknapp, and they are probably right, but if rumour is correct, most managers had to compromise on the players they actually bought, simply because Lowe would not back their judgement and pay the price. As a result a series of managers ended up buying second choice (cheaper) players, that fundamentally weakened the squad, in terms of ability and mental strength. Lowe is not solely responsible for our current position, but he was the catalyst and the question that needs to be asked is this? Can he be trusted to manage the club with little or no income, having failed it when it was at it's financial peak? I don't think he can as I think he is only interested in saving his own shares.
Chris, not going to vilify you as we're all entitled to an opinion. Mine is that you, me and most sensible people could have kept the club financially stable, whilst they were in the premier league, simply because Sky tv were throwing money at all the clubs. I know several people believe we shouldn't have gone down under Redknapp, and they are probably right, but if rumour is correct, most managers had to compromise on the players they actually bought, simply because Lowe would not back their judgement and pay the price. As a result a series of managers ended up buying second choice (cheaper) players, that fundamentally weakened the squad, in terms of ability and mental strength. Lowe is not solely responsible for our current position, but he was the catalyst and the question that needs to be asked is this? Can he be trusted to manage the club with little or no income, having failed it when it was at it's financial peak? I don't think he can as I think he is only interested in saving his own shares.
Posted by: Chris, Soton on 4:56pm Wed 19 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Costa Baz[/bold] wrote:
Chris, not going to vilify you as we're all entitled to an opinion. Mine is that you, me and most sensible people could have kept the club financially stable, whilst they were in the premier league, simply because Sky tv were throwing money at all the clubs. I know several people believe we shouldn't have gone down under Redknapp, and they are probably right, but if rumour is correct, most managers had to compromise on the players they actually bought, simply because Lowe would not back their judgement and pay the price. As a result a series of managers ended up buying second choice (cheaper) players, that fundamentally weakened the squad, in terms of ability and mental strength. Lowe is not solely responsible for our current position, but he was the catalyst and the question that needs to be asked is this? Can he be trusted to manage the club with little or no income, having failed it when it was at it's financial peak? I don't think he can as I think he is only interested in saving his own shares.[/quote] Fair comment!
Costa Baz wrote:
Chris, not going to vilify you as we're all entitled to an opinion. Mine is that you, me and most sensible people could have kept the club financially stable, whilst they were in the premier league, simply because Sky tv were throwing money at all the clubs. I know several people believe we shouldn't have gone down under Redknapp, and they are probably right, but if rumour is correct, most managers had to compromise on the players they actually bought, simply because Lowe would not back their judgement and pay the price. As a result a series of managers ended up buying second choice (cheaper) players, that fundamentally weakened the squad, in terms of ability and mental strength. Lowe is not solely responsible for our current position, but he was the catalyst and the question that needs to be asked is this? Can he be trusted to manage the club with little or no income, having failed it when it was at it's financial peak? I don't think he can as I think he is only interested in saving his own shares.
Fair comment!
Posted by: Forest Saint, Brockenhurst on 4:56pm Wed 19 Mar 08
Perspective now please guys!
Yes, Lowe has done considerable damage in the past...but think of the bigger picture.
Crouch, obviously only talks of 'investment' - note very carefully he is not looking for a takeover......why???
Wilde and Lowe have control over how many shares - 45%????
Now, being hypothetical here, if Wilde and Lowe were to join forces, receive a takeover approach, and sell up....
[bold]I reckon we would have more chance of a successful takeover.
Thoughts?[/bold]
Perspective now please guys!
Yes, Lowe has done considerable damage in the past...but think of the bigger picture.
Crouch, obviously only talks of 'investment' - note very carefully he is not looking for a takeover......why???
Wilde and Lowe have control over how many shares - 45%????
Now, being hypothetical here, if Wilde and Lowe were to join forces, receive a takeover approach, and sell up....
I reckon we would have more chance of a successful takeover.
Thoughts? Posted by: Duck Hunter, Southampton on 5:07pm Wed 19 Mar 08
Running out out of Gasoline.Please go and sniff that Gas Tank next to the ground!
Running out out of Gasoline.Please go and sniff that Gas Tank next to the ground!
Posted by: Mush Boy, soton on 5:08pm Wed 19 Mar 08
Just heard though the grape vine, the only reason they have made contact with these two muppets, is for the take over .i.e. purchasing there shares,
JUST SELL THEM U MUPPETS!!!!
Just heard though the grape vine, the only reason they have made contact with these two muppets, is for the take over .i.e. purchasing there shares,
JUST SELL THEM U MUPPETS!!!!
Posted by: Hawkeye, Bristol on 5:10pm Wed 19 Mar 08
Lowe could only come back with strings attached and certainly not as chairman. It would be madness to allow him anywhere near football decisions, who is bought and for how much, contract negotiations etc.
If the Board can guarantee Lowe would only come back with strictly limited executive powers then who knows.
Trouble is he is such a controversial character and a lot of people would get really upset if he did make any sort of return to the club.
Playing with fire if you ask me!!
Lowe could only come back with strings attached and certainly not as chairman. It would be madness to allow him anywhere near football decisions, who is bought and for how much, contract negotiations etc.
If the Board can guarantee Lowe would only come back with strictly limited executive powers then who knows.
Trouble is he is such a controversial character and a lot of people would get really upset if he did make any sort of return to the club.
Playing with fire if you ask me!!
Posted by: allsaintsnocurves, southampton on 5:11pm Wed 19 Mar 08
I don't know where the Echo got this story from but it has been blown out of the water on Saints website as complete rubbish. If it was true they would have to release the information to the stock exchange as we are a public listed company. Until such time as that the Echo should keep quiet about rubbish gossip as it will only damage morale before an important league game.
I don't know where the Echo got this story from but it has been blown out of the water on Saints website as complete rubbish. If it was true they would have to release the information to the stock exchange as we are a public listed company. Until such time as that the Echo should keep quiet about rubbish gossip as it will only damage morale before an important league game.
Posted by: Chris, soton on 5:13pm Wed 19 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Hawkeye[/bold] wrote:
Lowe could only come back with strings attached and certainly not as chairman. It would be madness to allow him anywhere near football decisions, who is bought and for how much, contract negotiations etc. If the Board can guarantee Lowe would only come back with strictly limited executive powers then who knows. Trouble is he is such a controversial character and a lot of people would get really upset if he did make any sort of return to the club. Playing with fire if you ask me!![/quote] Isn't it good to see sensible debate on thsi site for once?
Ok, agree with playing with fire bit...
.....but aren't we pretty much playing with fire at the moment anyway? We might just need to take a chance here (like we din't do with Hoddle after Strachan) to see if we can escape this mess....
Hawkeye wrote:
Lowe could only come back with strings attached and certainly not as chairman. It would be madness to allow him anywhere near football decisions, who is bought and for how much, contract negotiations etc. If the Board can guarantee Lowe would only come back with strictly limited executive powers then who knows. Trouble is he is such a controversial character and a lot of people would get really upset if he did make any sort of return to the club. Playing with fire if you ask me!!
Isn't it good to see sensible debate on thsi site for once?
Ok, agree with playing with fire bit...
.....but aren't we pretty much playing with fire at the moment anyway? We might just need to take a chance here (like we din't do with Hoddle after Strachan) to see if we can escape this mess....
Posted by: Captain Swing, Southampton on 5:18pm Wed 19 Mar 08
Rupert: no comment.
Wilde: no comment.
Club (David Bick?): "No true fan of the club or responsible shareholder could credibly identify themselves with such a controversial proposal at so delicate a time."
So who's leaked the story?
Or is The Leech psychic?
Whoever did leak this story - even if there is a grain of truth in it - has not got the best interests of the Saints at heart.
Rupert: no comment.
Wilde: no comment.
Club (David Bick?): "No true fan of the club or responsible shareholder could credibly identify themselves with such a controversial proposal at so delicate a time."
So who's leaked the story?
Or is The Leech psychic?
Whoever did leak this story - even if there is a grain of truth in it - has not got the best interests of the Saints at heart.
Posted by: Dan, Southampton on 5:21pm Wed 19 Mar 08
I don't care what happens, as long as we stay up and don't lose too much money.
I don't care what happens, as long as we stay up and don't lose too much money.
Posted by: Jannersaint, Plymuff on 5:22pm Wed 19 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Chris[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Chris[/bold] wrote: Ok, lets be realistic here. Some of the best times recently were under Lowe. New stadium, FA Cup and Wembley. Ok, we all know that failure to invest after the FA Cup and too many managerial changes cost us in the long run but you know, Redknapp was ultimately responsible for relegation (we should never have gone down with that squad) and for destabilising us afterwards. I think that we all agree that when Lowe appointed Strachan, Hoddle, Redknapp and Burley we were all very pleased at the time. It was all the other odd appointments we could never fathom (Gray, Wigley, even Sturrock). My point is this - was life so bad under Lowe? we're not the only club to have lost Premiership status recently and it was good odds it was going to happen sometime. We were also always very financially stable and we good a great deal with Theo under the circumstances. Just think we should use our heads before we jump up and down shouting. I now look forward to being vilified on this site![/quote] p.s. just to add balance to my comments I am under no illusion that this is motivated by a fear of losing his share price.[/quote] Agree completely. Although Sturrock was a good appointment. Currently pushing for a playoff place with a far inferior squad to ours.
I would add that I have no problem with a chairman motivated by money or share prices etc. A club making money will usually be a successful club, a win/win for the board and fans.
Chris wrote:
Chris wrote: Ok, lets be realistic here. Some of the best times recently were under Lowe. New stadium, FA Cup and Wembley. Ok, we all know that failure to invest after the FA Cup and too many managerial changes cost us in the long run but you know, Redknapp was ultimately responsible for relegation (we should never have gone down with that squad) and for destabilising us afterwards. I think that we all agree that when Lowe appointed Strachan, Hoddle, Redknapp and Burley we were all very pleased at the time. It was all the other odd appointments we could never fathom (Gray, Wigley, even Sturrock). My point is this - was life so bad under Lowe? we're not the only club to have lost Premiership status recently and it was good odds it was going to happen sometime. We were also always very financially stable and we good a great deal with Theo under the circumstances. Just think we should use our heads before we jump up and down shouting. I now look forward to being vilified on this site!
p.s. just to add balance to my comments I am under no illusion that this is motivated by a fear of losing his share price.
Agree completely. Although Sturrock was a good appointment. Currently pushing for a playoff place with a far inferior squad to ours.
I would add that I have no problem with a chairman motivated by money or share prices etc. A club making money will usually be a successful club, a win/win for the board and fans.
Posted by: ur aving a larf!!!!!!!!!!!!, MOS on 5:38pm Wed 19 Mar 08
Noooooooooooooooo!!!
!!!!! GET RID OF THIS POISON ONCE AND FOR ALL NOT INVITE HIM BACK!!
Noooooooooooooooo!!!
!!!!! GET RID OF THIS POISON ONCE AND FOR ALL NOT INVITE HIM BACK!!
Posted by: TFLS, The South Coast Riviera on 5:56pm Wed 19 Mar 08
Saints confirm Lowe contact
Fantastic news the popular ex-chairman retaking his rightful position as head of Saints PLC. Party time...
Saints confirm Lowe contact
Fantastic news the popular ex-chairman retaking his rightful position as head of Saints PLC. Party time...
Posted by: YouWhat YouWhat, Wight on 5:56pm Wed 19 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Chris[/bold] wrote:
Ok, lets be realistic here. Some of the best times recently were under Lowe. New stadium, FA Cup and Wembley. Ok, we all know that failure to invest after the FA Cup and too many managerial changes cost us in the long run but you know, Redknapp was ultimately responsible for relegation (we should never have gone down with that squad) and for destabilising us afterwards. I think that we all agree that when Lowe appointed Strachan, Hoddle, Redknapp and Burley we were all very pleased at the time. It was all the other odd appointments we could never fathom (Gray, Wigley, even Sturrock). My point is this - was life so bad under Lowe? we're not the only club to have lost Premiership status recently and it was good odds it was going to happen sometime. We were also always very financially stable and we good a great deal with Theo under the circumstances. Just think we should use our heads before we jump up and down shouting. I now look forward to being vilified on this site![/quote] Wembley?
You must have been on your own there
Chris wrote:
Ok, lets be realistic here. Some of the best times recently were under Lowe. New stadium, FA Cup and Wembley. Ok, we all know that failure to invest after the FA Cup and too many managerial changes cost us in the long run but you know, Redknapp was ultimately responsible for relegation (we should never have gone down with that squad) and for destabilising us afterwards. I think that we all agree that when Lowe appointed Strachan, Hoddle, Redknapp and Burley we were all very pleased at the time. It was all the other odd appointments we could never fathom (Gray, Wigley, even Sturrock). My point is this - was life so bad under Lowe? we're not the only club to have lost Premiership status recently and it was good odds it was going to happen sometime. We were also always very financially stable and we good a great deal with Theo under the circumstances. Just think we should use our heads before we jump up and down shouting. I now look forward to being vilified on this site!
Wembley?
You must have been on your own there
Posted by: Adrian Smith on 5:59pm Wed 19 Mar 08
[quote][bold]allsaintsnocurves[/bold] wrote:
I don't know where the Echo got this story from but it has been blown out of the water on Saints website as complete rubbish. If it was true they would have to release the information to the stock exchange as we are a public listed company. Until such time as that the Echo should keep quiet about rubbish gossip as it will only damage morale before an important league game.[/quote] Can't you read?
The club HAVE put a statement out to the Stock Exchange. Have you actually read the story?
I doubt it very much else you'd realise that.
Complete numpty.
allsaintsnocurves wrote:
I don't know where the Echo got this story from but it has been blown out of the water on Saints website as complete rubbish. If it was true they would have to release the information to the stock exchange as we are a public listed company. Until such time as that the Echo should keep quiet about rubbish gossip as it will only damage morale before an important league game.
Can't you read?
The club HAVE put a statement out to the Stock Exchange. Have you actually read the story?
I doubt it very much else you'd realise that.
Complete numpty.
Posted by: George on 6:01pm Wed 19 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Captain Swing[/bold] wrote:
Rupert: no comment. Wilde: no comment. Club (David Bick?): "No true fan of the club or responsible shareholder could credibly identify themselves with such a controversial proposal at so delicate a time." So who's leaked the story? Or is The Leech psychic? Whoever did leak this story - even if there is a grain of truth in it - has not got the best interests of the Saints at heart. [/quote] You sound a bit naive to me.
Just because they're gone on the record as "No Comment" doesn't one of them didn't say it off the record.
Captain Swing wrote:
Rupert: no comment. Wilde: no comment. Club (David Bick?): "No true fan of the club or responsible shareholder could credibly identify themselves with such a controversial proposal at so delicate a time." So who's leaked the story? Or is The Leech psychic? Whoever did leak this story - even if there is a grain of truth in it - has not got the best interests of the Saints at heart.
You sound a bit naive to me.
Just because they're gone on the record as "No Comment" doesn't one of them didn't say it off the record.
Posted by: rational, c/ford on 6:03pm Wed 19 Mar 08
[quote][bold]dave[/bold] wrote:
if lowe or wilde felt anything for this club they would not be doing this now. we need to win on saturday and this only gets in the way of that. the pair of clowns have shown their true colours. they are absolute scum[/quote] No. If they felt anything for the club (and were obeying LSE rules) they would not be playing it out in the press. They would quietly approach the board etc.
Why is thos in the press?
Who leaked it?
Maybe someone who is siding up with the lunatic fringe (75 of them) knowing they will shout and scream.
Who would I trust to do things properly - Lowe or Crouch?
Get over the relegation! The team was not performing and it was a good enough squad at the time. The manager then was not interested and pretty much admitted it later on. He was too busy briefing his mates in the press about the silly things Sir Clive wanted to bring in (things being done at ALL the top clubs in Europe.
And stop going on about Lowe not 'investing'. He was an employee of the club, not an outright owner.
Investment, by definition, is puttging in money with a view to getting more back, such as buying existing shares and hoping they rise in value.
What many fans are asking for when they say 'investment' is for a mega-rich idiot to come along and throw excess cash at the club, as happenned at Chelsea. How many daft billionaires are out there?
We need sensible management. I believe Lowe provided that for many years, helping us punch well above our weight. The disasterous management since shows just how hard it is and the amateurs have failed.
Unfortunately, the lunatic fringe, and the idiots that listen to them will probably scupper this, but I hope not.
dave wrote:
if lowe or wilde felt anything for this club they would not be doing this now. we need to win on saturday and this only gets in the way of that. the pair of clowns have shown their true colours. they are absolute scum
No. If they felt anything for the club (and were obeying LSE rules) they would not be playing it out in the press. They would quietly approach the board etc.
Why is thos in the press?
Who leaked it?
Maybe someone who is siding up with the lunatic fringe (75 of them) knowing they will shout and scream.
Who would I trust to do things properly - Lowe or Crouch?
Get over the relegation! The team was not performing and it was a good enough squad at the time. The manager then was not interested and pretty much admitted it later on. He was too busy briefing his mates in the press about the silly things Sir Clive wanted to bring in (things being done at ALL the top clubs in Europe.
And stop going on about Lowe not 'investing'. He was an employee of the club, not an outright owner.
Investment, by definition, is puttging in money with a view to getting more back, such as buying existing shares and hoping they rise in value.
What many fans are asking for when they say 'investment' is for a mega-rich idiot to come along and throw excess cash at the club, as happenned at Chelsea. How many daft billionaires are out there?
We need sensible management. I believe Lowe provided that for many years, helping us punch well above our weight. The disasterous management since shows just how hard it is and the amateurs have failed.
Unfortunately, the lunatic fringe, and the idiots that listen to them will probably scupper this, but I hope not.
Posted by: stocky on 6:19pm Wed 19 Mar 08
Lowe and Saints is all about.......Lowe.
Mind you.. give him it if we go down which is 50/50 in my view. Then he could inherit the mess that has stemmed from his actions in the close season 2003.
Lowe and Saints is all about.......Lowe.
Mind you.. give him it if we go down which is 50/50 in my view. Then he could inherit the mess that has stemmed from his actions in the close season 2003.
Posted by: Peter Godwin, Ingatestone on 6:19pm Wed 19 Mar 08
It seems to me that Rupert Lowe's only real failure was in his man management relationships. He generally appointed quality managers (there was the odd exception!)and then seemed to upset them - whether through interefering in their work, or just perhaps his sometimes pompous attitude I don't know. What I do know is that he was a competent business man, and if he could just get his human relationships under control, his return would be desirable.
It seems to me that Rupert Lowe's only real failure was in his man management relationships. He generally appointed quality managers (there was the odd exception!)and then seemed to upset them - whether through interefering in their work, or just perhaps his sometimes pompous attitude I don't know. What I do know is that he was a competent business man, and if he could just get his human relationships under control, his return would be desirable.
Posted by: KEEP THE TWATS OUT OF OUR CLUB on 6:39pm Wed 19 Mar 08
LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT
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LOWE OUT
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LOWE OUT
LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT
LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT
LOWE OUT
I REPEAT
LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT
LOWE OUT
Posted by: rational, c/ford on 6:42pm Wed 19 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Peter Godwin[/bold] wrote:
It seems to me that Rupert Lowe's only real failure was in his man management relationships. He generally appointed quality managers (there was the odd exception!)and then seemed to upset them - whether through interefering in their work, or just perhaps his sometimes pompous attitude I don't know. What I do know is that he was a competent business man, and if he could just get his human relationships under control, his return would be desirable.[/quote] Who did he upset?
Maybe Gray and Wigley, who didn't make the grade.
Dave Jones - maybe - because sponsors wanted to pull out, a no-win situation for the club. But he never had any other issues with Lowe.
Hoddle left for his beloved Spurs.
Redkrapp was never really interested here.
And don't believe what some spout about Strachan. He has been very clear in all he has said about why he left. He wanted a year off, which we could not accept. This was to spend time with his family, which he did.
GS clearly said it was nothing to do with lack of funds, so to suggest otherwise is calling Strachan a liar.
He's also remained in touch with Lowe and, when Burley asked him about Lowe, he said he was good to work with.
Peter Godwin wrote:
It seems to me that Rupert Lowe's only real failure was in his man management relationships. He generally appointed quality managers (there was the odd exception!)and then seemed to upset them - whether through interefering in their work, or just perhaps his sometimes pompous attitude I don't know. What I do know is that he was a competent business man, and if he could just get his human relationships under control, his return would be desirable.
Who did he upset?
Maybe Gray and Wigley, who didn't make the grade.
Dave Jones - maybe - because sponsors wanted to pull out, a no-win situation for the club. But he never had any other issues with Lowe.
Hoddle left for his beloved Spurs.
Redkrapp was never really interested here.
And don't believe what some spout about Strachan. He has been very clear in all he has said about why he left. He wanted a year off, which we could not accept. This was to spend time with his family, which he did.
GS clearly said it was nothing to do with lack of funds, so to suggest otherwise is calling Strachan a liar.
He's also remained in touch with Lowe and, when Burley asked him about Lowe, he said he was good to work with.
Posted by: adam, CHAPEL STAND on 6:43pm Wed 19 Mar 08
tell the **** 2 **** off he aint welcome at the club the **** **** go jump off the **** itchen bridge u **** lowe life ****[bold]bold[/bold]
tell the **** 2 **** off he aint welcome at the club the **** **** go jump off the **** itchen bridge u **** lowe life ****
Posted by: dave townsend, Cornwall on 6:54pm Wed 19 Mar 08
your forgeting they ran us into the ground made a fast buck and quit , and you think that they will be good for us . i know lets all go throw ourselves i the solent .because there is no way on this planet i want those two back . very short memories how many of u were screaming for lowes head are now saying come back ruppie baby .as a true fan i would prefer it for him to jump in the solent sadly this wont happen he just senses a fast buck
your forgeting they ran us into the ground made a fast buck and quit , and you think that they will be good for us . i know lets all go throw ourselves i the solent .because there is no way on this planet i want those two back . very short memories how many of u were screaming for lowes head are now saying come back ruppie baby .as a true fan i would prefer it for him to jump in the solent sadly this wont happen he just senses a fast buck
Posted by: Matt on 7:01pm Wed 19 Mar 08
Lowe budgeted for us to go down.
At which point he got kicked out.
Which was, coincidentally, the time when we needed that type of financial manager at the top.
The irony of it all...
I just don't know anymore....
Lowe budgeted for us to go down.
At which point he got kicked out.
Which was, coincidentally, the time when we needed that type of financial manager at the top.
The irony of it all...
I just don't know anymore....
Posted by: Chris, soton on 7:02pm Wed 19 Mar 08
[quote][bold]YouWhat YouWhat[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Chris[/bold] wrote: Ok, lets be realistic here. Some of the best times recently were under Lowe. New stadium, FA Cup and Wembley. Ok, we all know that failure to invest after the FA Cup and too many managerial changes cost us in the long run but you know, Redknapp was ultimately responsible for relegation (we should never have gone down with that squad) and for destabilising us afterwards. I think that we all agree that when Lowe appointed Strachan, Hoddle, Redknapp and Burley we were all very pleased at the time. It was all the other odd appointments we could never fathom (Gray, Wigley, even Sturrock). My point is this - was life so bad under Lowe? we're not the only club to have lost Premiership status recently and it was good odds it was going to happen sometime. We were also always very financially stable and we good a great deal with Theo under the circumstances. Just think we should use our heads before we jump up and down shouting. I now look forward to being vilified on this site![/quote] Wembley? You must have been on your own there[/quote] Oops!! Imagine how annoyed i was to turn up only to find it had been knocked down....
:o)
YouWhat YouWhat wrote:
Chris wrote: Ok, lets be realistic here. Some of the best times recently were under Lowe. New stadium, FA Cup and Wembley. Ok, we all know that failure to invest after the FA Cup and too many managerial changes cost us in the long run but you know, Redknapp was ultimately responsible for relegation (we should never have gone down with that squad) and for destabilising us afterwards. I think that we all agree that when Lowe appointed Strachan, Hoddle, Redknapp and Burley we were all very pleased at the time. It was all the other odd appointments we could never fathom (Gray, Wigley, even Sturrock). My point is this - was life so bad under Lowe? we're not the only club to have lost Premiership status recently and it was good odds it was going to happen sometime. We were also always very financially stable and we good a great deal with Theo under the circumstances. Just think we should use our heads before we jump up and down shouting. I now look forward to being vilified on this site!
Wembley? You must have been on your own there
Oops!! Imagine how annoyed i was to turn up only to find it had been knocked down....
:o)
Posted by: jo, Southampton on 7:09pm Wed 19 Mar 08
[quote][bold]KEEP THE TWATS OUT OF OUR CLUB[/bold] wrote:
LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT I REPEAT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT [/quote] Sadly it was this misguided and ill informed chanting which resulted in Rupert and Co. departing. The resulting management has been a disaster.People may not have liked Ruperts style but the management team that he led were true and successful business people. I have no doubt that had his team been allowed to
continue the club would not be in the sorry financial state it is now.
The club needs good business skills to turn it around and Rupert and his management team were highly respected by the FA, Premiership and League owners and managers. As far as I can see they are the only people with the skills,experience and access to the capital to do the job.If they also have a large financial stake in ensuring that the club is successful then that is a powerful incentive to turn it round.
Chanting dogma like 'Lowe Out' is not going to solve the clubs problem.It is symptomatic of the former 'sheep like' behaviour which has resulted in the current situation. Can we finally have some rational and sensible debate which focuses on solutions.
KEEP THE TWATS OUT OF OUR CLUB wrote:
LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT I REPEAT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT
Sadly it was this misguided and ill informed chanting which resulted in Rupert and Co. departing. The resulting management has been a disaster.People may not have liked Ruperts style but the management team that he led were true and successful business people. I have no doubt that had his team been allowed to
continue the club would not be in the sorry financial state it is now.
The club needs good business skills to turn it around and Rupert and his management team were highly respected by the FA, Premiership and League owners and managers. As far as I can see they are the only people with the skills,experience and access to the capital to do the job.If they also have a large financial stake in ensuring that the club is successful then that is a powerful incentive to turn it round.
Chanting dogma like 'Lowe Out' is not going to solve the clubs problem.It is symptomatic of the former 'sheep like' behaviour which has resulted in the current situation. Can we finally have some rational and sensible debate which focuses on solutions.
Posted by: Wazza on 7:21pm Wed 19 Mar 08
[quote][bold]jo[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]KEEP THE TWATS OUT OF OUR CLUB[/bold] wrote: LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT I REPEAT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT [/quote] Sadly it was this misguided and ill informed chanting which resulted in Rupert and Co. departing. The resulting management has been a disaster.People may not have liked Ruperts style but the management team that he led were true and successful business people. I have no doubt that had his team been allowed to continue the club would not be in the sorry financial state it is now. The club needs good business skills to turn it around and Rupert and his management team were highly respected by the FA, Premiership and League owners and managers. As far as I can see they are the only people with the skills,experience and access to the capital to do the job.If they also have a large financial stake in ensuring that the club is successful then that is a powerful incentive to turn it round. Chanting dogma like 'Lowe Out' is not going to solve the clubs problem.It is symptomatic of the former 'sheep like' behaviour which has resulted in the current situation. Can we finally have some rational and sensible debate which focuses on solutions. [/quote] It's obvious, to me, that Lowe had to go. We didn't have the hindsight then to know that the alternative was no better (in fact infintely worse). It was reasonable to asume or hope, for fans like me who wanted Lowe out, that the alternative would be better.
You say Lowe has good business skills. But ultimately his cost cutting, not willing to shell out premiership wages on premiership players lead us to Relegation. That team was not good enough. The appointments of Wigley and Gray were not good enough. The non-appointment of Hoddle (Lowe wasn't strong enough to go against the rest of the board NOT the "Anti-Lowe Brigade"). The sacking of Sturrock and the poor treatment of Dave Jones, were embarrasing and disapointing. 9 Managers in 9 years!!!!!
jo wrote:
KEEP THE TWATS OUT OF OUR CLUB wrote: LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT I REPEAT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT
Sadly it was this misguided and ill informed chanting which resulted in Rupert and Co. departing. The resulting management has been a disaster.People may not have liked Ruperts style but the management team that he led were true and successful business people. I have no doubt that had his team been allowed to continue the club would not be in the sorry financial state it is now. The club needs good business skills to turn it around and Rupert and his management team were highly respected by the FA, Premiership and League owners and managers. As far as I can see they are the only people with the skills,experience and access to the capital to do the job.If they also have a large financial stake in ensuring that the club is successful then that is a powerful incentive to turn it round. Chanting dogma like 'Lowe Out' is not going to solve the clubs problem.It is symptomatic of the former 'sheep like' behaviour which has resulted in the current situation. Can we finally have some rational and sensible debate which focuses on solutions.
It's obvious, to me, that Lowe had to go. We didn't have the hindsight then to know that the alternative was no better (in fact infintely worse). It was reasonable to asume or hope, for fans like me who wanted Lowe out, that the alternative would be better.
You say Lowe has good business skills. But ultimately his cost cutting, not willing to shell out premiership wages on premiership players lead us to Relegation. That team was not good enough. The appointments of Wigley and Gray were not good enough. The non-appointment of Hoddle (Lowe wasn't strong enough to go against the rest of the board NOT the "Anti-Lowe Brigade"). The sacking of Sturrock and the poor treatment of Dave Jones, were embarrasing and disapointing. 9 Managers in 9 years!!!!!
Posted by: pete, exiled southampton on 7:24pm Wed 19 Mar 08
Some good comments (and some stupid ones lol)
Remember this is a public limited company, the shareholders elect the board and the chairman. All this "buying" shares etc is NOT going to put money into the club. Similarly a "takeover" requires existing shareholders to agree a dilution of their own share value and the club to issue NEW shares. This is the only way the club is going to get extra money from an "investment".
Think about - who in their right mind is going to do a full purchase with the club so close to relegation and administration.
Lowe is respected in the city. It is the bankers that need to have faith in the company right now (i say company as we all know its not a club). If there are no new investors (and that seems likely) then we need a strong board to convince the bankers that we are worth backing
I dont think the introduction of Lowe back has anything to do with the football - more to do with the way the business is being run.
Some good comments (and some stupid ones lol)
Remember this is a public limited company, the shareholders elect the board and the chairman. All this "buying" shares etc is NOT going to put money into the club. Similarly a "takeover" requires existing shareholders to agree a dilution of their own share value and the club to issue NEW shares. This is the only way the club is going to get extra money from an "investment".
Think about - who in their right mind is going to do a full purchase with the club so close to relegation and administration.
Lowe is respected in the city. It is the bankers that need to have faith in the company right now (i say company as we all know its not a club). If there are no new investors (and that seems likely) then we need a strong board to convince the bankers that we are worth backing
I dont think the introduction of Lowe back has anything to do with the football - more to do with the way the business is being run.
Posted by: Saint Red And White on 7:27pm Wed 19 Mar 08
Richard Wright has arrived in Southampton and will sign a loan deal
Richard Wright has arrived in Southampton and will sign a loan deal
Posted by: Chris, soton on 7:34pm Wed 19 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Wazza[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]jo[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]KEEP THE TWATS OUT OF OUR CLUB[/bold] wrote: LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT I REPEAT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT [/quote] Sadly it was this misguided and ill informed chanting which resulted in Rupert and Co. departing. The resulting management has been a disaster.People may not have liked Ruperts style but the management team that he led were true and successful business people. I have no doubt that had his team been allowed to continue the club would not be in the sorry financial state it is now. The club needs good business skills to turn it around and Rupert and his management team were highly respected by the FA, Premiership and League owners and managers. As far as I can see they are the only people with the skills,experience and access to the capital to do the job.If they also have a large financial stake in ensuring that the club is successful then that is a powerful incentive to turn it round. Chanting dogma like 'Lowe Out' is not going to solve the clubs problem.It is symptomatic of the former 'sheep like' behaviour which has resulted in the current situation. Can we finally have some rational and sensible debate which focuses on solutions. [/quote] It's obvious, to me, that Lowe had to go. We didn't have the hindsight then to know that the alternative was no better (in fact infintely worse). It was reasonable to asume or hope, for fans like me who wanted Lowe out, that the alternative would be better. You say Lowe has good business skills. But ultimately his cost cutting, not willing to shell out premiership wages on premiership players lead us to Relegation. That team was not good enough. The appointments of Wigley and Gray were not good enough. The non-appointment of Hoddle (Lowe wasn't strong enough to go against the rest of the board NOT the "Anti-Lowe Brigade"). The sacking of Sturrock and the poor treatment of Dave Jones, were embarrasing and disapointing. 9 Managers in 9 years!!!!![/quote] This is fun!! I agree with being positive about Lowe but I cant disagree with any of the considered points Wazza makes! What should be clear to everyone is that every week there is some new rumour about Saints and i am sad to say that the whole country is probably laughing at our once proud club and would love it if we went down.
Come on Mr Branson, get your wallet out - we are already sponsored by an airline AND play in red and white!!
Wazza wrote:
jo wrote: KEEP THE TWATS OUT OF OUR CLUB wrote: LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT I REPEAT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT
Sadly it was this misguided and ill informed chanting which resulted in Rupert and Co. departing. The resulting management has been a disaster.People may not have liked Ruperts style but the management team that he led were true and successful business people. I have no doubt that had his team been allowed to continue the club would not be in the sorry financial state it is now. The club needs good business skills to turn it around and Rupert and his management team were highly respected by the FA, Premiership and League owners and managers. As far as I can see they are the only people with the skills,experience and access to the capital to do the job.If they also have a large financial stake in ensuring that the club is successful then that is a powerful incentive to turn it round. Chanting dogma like 'Lowe Out' is not going to solve the clubs problem.It is symptomatic of the former 'sheep like' behaviour which has resulted in the current situation. Can we finally have some rational and sensible debate which focuses on solutions.
It's obvious, to me, that Lowe had to go. We didn't have the hindsight then to know that the alternative was no better (in fact infintely worse). It was reasonable to asume or hope, for fans like me who wanted Lowe out, that the alternative would be better. You say Lowe has good business skills. But ultimately his cost cutting, not willing to shell out premiership wages on premiership players lead us to Relegation. That team was not good enough. The appointments of Wigley and Gray were not good enough. The non-appointment of Hoddle (Lowe wasn't strong enough to go against the rest of the board NOT the "Anti-Lowe Brigade"). The sacking of Sturrock and the poor treatment of Dave Jones, were embarrasing and disapointing. 9 Managers in 9 years!!!!!
This is fun!! I agree with being positive about Lowe but I cant disagree with any of the considered points Wazza makes! What should be clear to everyone is that every week there is some new rumour about Saints and i am sad to say that the whole country is probably laughing at our once proud club and would love it if we went down.
Come on Mr Branson, get your wallet out - we are already sponsored by an airline AND play in red and white!!
Posted by: rational, c/ford on 7:41pm Wed 19 Mar 08
[quote][bold]pete[/bold] wrote:
Some good comments (and some stupid ones lol) Remember this is a public limited company, the shareholders elect the board and the chairman. All this "buying" shares etc is NOT going to put money into the club. Similarly a "takeover" requires existing shareholders to agree a dilution of their own share value and the club to issue NEW shares. This is the only way the club is going to get extra money from an "investment". Think about - who in their right mind is going to do a full purchase with the club so close to relegation and administration. Lowe is respected in the city. It is the bankers that need to have faith in the company right now (i say company as we all know its not a club). If there are no new investors (and that seems likely) then we need a strong board to convince the bankers that we are worth backing I dont think the introduction of Lowe back has anything to do with the football - more to do with the way the business is being run.[/quote] I say yours is one of the 'good' comments.
We need to accept that the idea of the billionaire, who is happy to throw away cash, is pie in the sky.
Of course we would love it if we could pay top wages, but it has to come from somewhere. Either from sale of players, match day revenue, merchandising or other investment income. Lowe, and all subsequent management, can't just say "ok, we'll pay more"
Yes we had Sky money, but so did every other club.
We also had a loan for the stadium, so had to cut cloth appropriately.
As you say, some good debate here. Best I've read for a while.
pete wrote:
Some good comments (and some stupid ones lol) Remember this is a public limited company, the shareholders elect the board and the chairman. All this "buying" shares etc is NOT going to put money into the club. Similarly a "takeover" requires existing shareholders to agree a dilution of their own share value and the club to issue NEW shares. This is the only way the club is going to get extra money from an "investment". Think about - who in their right mind is going to do a full purchase with the club so close to relegation and administration. Lowe is respected in the city. It is the bankers that need to have faith in the company right now (i say company as we all know its not a club). If there are no new investors (and that seems likely) then we need a strong board to convince the bankers that we are worth backing I dont think the introduction of Lowe back has anything to do with the football - more to do with the way the business is being run.
I say yours is one of the 'good' comments.
We need to accept that the idea of the billionaire, who is happy to throw away cash, is pie in the sky.
Of course we would love it if we could pay top wages, but it has to come from somewhere. Either from sale of players, match day revenue, merchandising or other investment income. Lowe, and all subsequent management, can't just say "ok, we'll pay more"
Yes we had Sky money, but so did every other club.
We also had a loan for the stadium, so had to cut cloth appropriately.
As you say, some good debate here. Best I've read for a while.
Posted by: Redbeard, Time-warp on 7:50pm Wed 19 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Chris[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Wazza[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]jo[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]KEEP THE TWATS OUT OF OUR CLUB[/bold] wrote: LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT I REPEAT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT [/quote] Sadly it was this misguided and ill informed chanting which resulted in Rupert and Co. departing. The resulting management has been a disaster.People may not have liked Ruperts style but the management team that he led were true and successful business people. I have no doubt that had his team been allowed to continue the club would not be in the sorry financial state it is now. The club needs good business skills to turn it around and Rupert and his management team were highly respected by the FA, Premiership and League owners and managers. As far as I can see they are the only people with the skills,experience and access to the capital to do the job.If they also have a large financial stake in ensuring that the club is successful then that is a powerful incentive to turn it round. Chanting dogma like 'Lowe Out' is not going to solve the clubs problem.It is symptomatic of the former 'sheep like' behaviour which has resulted in the current situation. Can we finally have some rational and sensible debate which focuses on solutions. [/quote] It's obvious, to me, that Lowe had to go. We didn't have the hindsight then to know that the alternative was no better (in fact infintely worse). It was reasonable to asume or hope, for fans like me who wanted Lowe out, that the alternative would be better. You say Lowe has good business skills. But ultimately his cost cutting, not willing to shell out premiership wages on premiership players lead us to Relegation. That team was not good enough. The appointments of Wigley and Gray were not good enough. The non-appointment of Hoddle (Lowe wasn't strong enough to go against the rest of the board NOT the "Anti-Lowe Brigade"). The sacking of Sturrock and the poor treatment of Dave Jones, were embarrasing and disapointing. 9 Managers in 9 years!!!!![/quote] This is fun!! I agree with being positive about Lowe but I cant disagree with any of the considered points Wazza makes! What should be clear to everyone is that every week there is some new rumour about Saints and i am sad to say that the whole country is probably laughing at our once proud club and would love it if we went down. Come on Mr Branson, get your wallet out - we are already sponsored by an airline AND play in red and white!! [/quote] With his perchant for self-publicity and shonking dealing if Branson did get involved, as soon as anything went wrong, he'd be off in his hot air balloon before you could say Tubular Bells
Chris wrote:
Wazza wrote: jo wrote: KEEP THE TWATS OUT OF OUR CLUB wrote: LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT I REPEAT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT LOWE OUT
Sadly it was this misguided and ill informed chanting which resulted in Rupert and Co. departing. The resulting management has been a disaster.People may not have liked Ruperts style but the management team that he led were true and successful business people. I have no doubt that had his team been allowed to continue the club would not be in the sorry financial state it is now. The club needs good business skills to turn it around and Rupert and his management team were highly respected by the FA, Premiership and League owners and managers. As far as I can see they are the only people with the skills,experience and access to the capital to do the job.If they also have a large financial stake in ensuring that the club is successful then that is a powerful incentive to turn it round. Chanting dogma like 'Lowe Out' is not going to solve the clubs problem.It is symptomatic of the former 'sheep like' behaviour which has resulted in the current situation. Can we finally have some rational and sensible debate which focuses on solutions.
It's obvious, to me, that Lowe had to go. We didn't have the hindsight then to know that the alternative was no better (in fact infintely worse). It was reasonable to asume or hope, for fans like me who wanted Lowe out, that the alternative would be better. You say Lowe has good business skills. But ultimately his cost cutting, not willing to shell out premiership wages on premiership players lead us to Relegation. That team was not good enough. The appointments of Wigley and Gray were not good enough. The non-appointment of Hoddle (Lowe wasn't strong enough to go against the rest of the board NOT the "Anti-Lowe Brigade"). The sacking of Sturrock and the poor treatment of Dave Jones, were embarrasing and disapointing. 9 Managers in 9 years!!!!!
This is fun!! I agree with being positive about Lowe but I cant disagree with any of the considered points Wazza makes! What should be clear to everyone is that every week there is some new rumour about Saints and i am sad to say that the whole country is probably laughing at our once proud club and would love it if we went down. Come on Mr Branson, get your wallet out - we are already sponsored by an airline AND play in red and white!!
With his perchant for self-publicity and shonking dealing if Branson did get involved, as soon as anything went wrong, he'd be off in his hot air balloon before you could say Tubular Bells
Posted by: Beaster Boy, Bassett on 7:53pm Wed 19 Mar 08
A year or so ago [bold]nobody[/bold] had a good word to say about Rupert Lowe, suddenly he's become misunderstood and the new saviour!
What a bunch of Judas's you lot are, the man was and still is an Arsehole of the highest order who was single-handedly responsible for the position we now find ourselves, it was the way he set up the PLC that has stopped interested parties from becoming involved and now you want him back. B*ll*cks to you all, If he comes back in any capacity whatsoever, I for one will not set foot in St Mary's again and I expect many thousands of others will not either.
I would rather support the club in the 3rd division than have him back!
A year or so ago
nobody had a good word to say about Rupert Lowe, suddenly he's become misunderstood and the new saviour!
What a bunch of Judas's you lot are, the man was and still is an Arsehole of the highest order who was single-handedly responsible for the position we now find ourselves, it was the way he set up the PLC that has stopped interested parties from becoming involved and now you want him back. B*ll*cks to you all, If he comes back in any capacity whatsoever, I for one will not set foot in St Mary's again and I expect many thousands of others will not either.
I would rather support the club in the 3rd division than have him back!
Posted by: rational, c/ford on 8:04pm Wed 19 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Beaster Boy[/bold] wrote:
A year or so ago [bold]nobody[/bold] had a good word to say about Rupert Lowe, suddenly he's become misunderstood and the new saviour! What a bunch of Judas's you lot are, the man was and still is an Arsehole of the highest order who was single-handedly responsible for the position we now find ourselves, it was the way he set up the PLC that has stopped interested parties from becoming involved and now you want him back. B*ll*cks to you all, If he comes back in any capacity whatsoever, I for one will not set foot in St Mary's again and I expect many thousands of others will not either. I would rather support the club in the 3rd division than have him back![/quote] Not true.
I have always said that the proposal by Wilde and Crouch and the 'Manifesto' was trash. As has been proven by the fact that it was never followed once Lowe was ousted.
I also felt that Lowe would never have let things get this bad.
Many other have consistently posted on various forums along the same lines.
I have to admit, I am surprised he is contemplating this because of the closed minds and lunatic fringe. having said that, if I won a huge Euro lottery and had the cash to buy, I would not hesitate asking Lowe to bring his skills and experience in.
As many posters above have said, Lowe was not single handedly responsible for all of it. Many poor management decisions have come since relegation, baloon payments and transfer fees squandered.
Beaster Boy wrote:
A year or so ago nobody had a good word to say about Rupert Lowe, suddenly he's become misunderstood and the new saviour! What a bunch of Judas's you lot are, the man was and still is an Arsehole of the highest order who was single-handedly responsible for the position we now find ourselves, it was the way he set up the PLC that has stopped interested parties from becoming involved and now you want him back. B*ll*cks to you all, If he comes back in any capacity whatsoever, I for one will not set foot in St Mary's again and I expect many thousands of others will not either. I would rather support the club in the 3rd division than have him back!
Not true.
I have always said that the proposal by Wilde and Crouch and the 'Manifesto' was trash. As has been proven by the fact that it was never followed once Lowe was ousted.
I also felt that Lowe would never have let things get this bad.
Many other have consistently posted on various forums along the same lines.
I have to admit, I am surprised he is contemplating this because of the closed minds and lunatic fringe. having said that, if I won a huge Euro lottery and had the cash to buy, I would not hesitate asking Lowe to bring his skills and experience in.
As many posters above have said, Lowe was not single handedly responsible for all of it. Many poor management decisions have come since relegation, baloon payments and transfer fees squandered.
Posted by: sherbie26, england on 8:09pm Wed 19 Mar 08
7 games left (if we dont make the playoffs) .Lets finish the season a championship side .Then talk takeover this is all just crap to the true saints fan.
COME ON YOU SAINTS..SHERBIE26
7 games left (if we dont make the playoffs) .Lets finish the season a championship side .Then talk takeover this is all just crap to the true saints fan.
COME ON YOU SAINTS..SHERBIE26
Posted by: TrueFan 71, Warsash on 8:19pm Wed 19 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Beaster Boy[/bold] wrote:
A year or so ago [bold]nobody[/bold] had a good word to say about Rupert Lowe, suddenly he's become misunderstood and the new saviour! What a bunch of Judas's you lot are, the man was and still is an Arsehole of the highest order who was single-handedly responsible for the position we now find ourselves, it was the way he set up the PLC that has stopped interested parties from becoming involved and now you want him back. B*ll*cks to you all, If he comes back in any capacity whatsoever, I for one will not set foot in St Mary's again and I expect many thousands of others will not either. I would rather support the club in the 3rd division than have him back![/quote] Good, off you go to Bournemouth or Brighton. I'd be happy to buy another season ticket if it meant the biggoted, vociferous, class hating minority were relegated and true, sensible supporters were allowed to once again enjoy football at St Mary's.
Beaster Boy wrote:
A year or so ago nobody had a good word to say about Rupert Lowe, suddenly he's become misunderstood and the new saviour! What a bunch of Judas's you lot are, the man was and still is an Arsehole of the highest order who was single-handedly responsible for the position we now find ourselves, it was the way he set up the PLC that has stopped interested parties from becoming involved and now you want him back. B*ll*cks to you all, If he comes back in any capacity whatsoever, I for one will not set foot in St Mary's again and I expect many thousands of others will not either. I would rather support the club in the 3rd division than have him back!
Good, off you go to Bournemouth or Brighton. I'd be happy to buy another season ticket if it meant the biggoted, vociferous, class hating minority were relegated and true, sensible supporters were allowed to once again enjoy football at St Mary's.
Posted by: David Crook, Yorkshire on 8:20pm Wed 19 Mar 08
If saints supporters had used there heads a few years ago,and let Rupert Lowe bring Glenn Hoddle back second time aroud we would not be in this mess.
Now the same thing is happening again,a chance to bring lowe back to sought this mess out so we can stay in this league,get stable for next season and push for promotion,and yet nobody wants him.
I Hope Saints win on saturday
David Crook
If saints supporters had used there heads a few years ago,and let Rupert Lowe bring Glenn Hoddle back second time aroud we would not be in this mess.
Now the same thing is happening again,a chance to bring lowe back to sought this mess out so we can stay in this league,get stable for next season and push for promotion,and yet nobody wants him.
I Hope Saints win on saturday
David Crook
Posted by: butty, Le rice on 8:36pm Wed 19 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Chris[/bold] wrote:
Ok, lets be realistic here. Some of the best times recently were under Lowe. New stadium, FA Cup and Wembley. Ok, we all know that failure to invest after the FA Cup and too many managerial changes cost us in the long run but you know, Redknapp was ultimately responsible for relegation (we should never have gone down with that squad) and for destabilising us afterwards. I think that we all agree that when Lowe appointed Strachan, Hoddle, Redknapp and Burley we were all very pleased at the time. It was all the other odd appointments we could never fathom (Gray, Wigley, even Sturrock).
My point is this - was life so bad under Lowe? we\'re not the only club to have lost Premiership status recently and it was good odds it was going to happen sometime. We were also always very financially stable and we good a great deal with Theo under the circumstances. Just think we should use our heads before we jump up and down shouting.
I now look forward to being vilified on this site![/quote] You must be nuts to want that bloke back! and short minded. The bloke is an egotistical wan##r who thought he new more about football than the managers he employed, and he got 1 appointment right out of 10 (a broken clock's right twice a day). Obviously I could go on all night with reasons against him but here are just a few
* The tin man
* Spending 4 million on Rory Delap
* Sir Clive
* Not backing wGS in transfer market and buying Robbie Keane, when we were in Europe
*10 managers in 10 seasons
* Paying himself an extra 3/4 million for getting to f.a.cup final
* Whose ever heard of a Rupert in football!
Chris wrote:
Ok, lets be realistic here. Some of the best times recently were under Lowe. New stadium, FA Cup and Wembley. Ok, we all know that failure to invest after the FA Cup and too many managerial changes cost us in the long run but you know, Redknapp was ultimately responsible for relegation (we should never have gone down with that squad) and for destabilising us afterwards. I think that we all agree that when Lowe appointed Strachan, Hoddle, Redknapp and Burley we were all very pleased at the time. It was all the other odd appointments we could never fathom (Gray, Wigley, even Sturrock).
My point is this - was life so bad under Lowe? we\'re not the only club to have lost Premiership status recently and it was good odds it was going to happen sometime. We were also always very financially stable and we good a great deal with Theo under the circumstances. Just think we should use our heads before we jump up and down shouting.
I now look forward to being vilified on this site!
You must be nuts to want that bloke back! and short minded. The bloke is an egotistical wan##r who thought he new more about football than the managers he employed, and he got 1 appointment right out of 10 (a broken clock's right twice a day). Obviously I could go on all night with reasons against him but here are just a few
* The tin man
* Spending 4 million on Rory Delap
* Sir Clive
* Not backing wGS in transfer market and buying Robbie Keane, when we were in Europe
*10 managers in 10 seasons
* Paying himself an extra 3/4 million for getting to f.a.cup final
* Whose ever heard of a Rupert in football!
Posted by: Chris, soton on 8:45pm Wed 19 Mar 08
Not sure what short minded means but never mind. Didn't think it would be long before i got it in the neck for my comments. You are very naive if you think that WGS would have stayed at Saints past the summer had he been backed - he has his eyes set on Man UTD and sees Celtic as his stepping stone, not Saints. Also, if you read my comments I make many of the points you so eloquently put after your w***** comment.
Not sure what short minded means but never mind. Didn't think it would be long before i got it in the neck for my comments. You are very naive if you think that WGS would have stayed at Saints past the summer had he been backed - he has his eyes set on Man UTD and sees Celtic as his stepping stone, not Saints. Also, if you read my comments I make many of the points you so eloquently put after your w***** comment.
Posted by: Judas Saintsfan, Southampton on 8:49pm Wed 19 Mar 08
It was a disaster for Saints when Rupert left.
It should be evident now - even to those idiots who still believe he sucks the souls out of babies - that he has been the victim of a black propaganda campaign; ably assisted by the Echo!
That said, I believe it will take a rich genius to turn the Club around in less than five years and much as I have come to admire Rupert (and the longer he's been gone the greater my admiration has grown), I'm not convinced of his genius.
Still, anything has got to be better than the current farce - even having Michael Wilde back (maybe?).
It was a disaster for Saints when Rupert left.
It should be evident now - even to those idiots who still believe he sucks the souls out of babies - that he has been the victim of a black propaganda campaign; ably assisted by the Echo!
That said, I believe it will take a rich genius to turn the Club around in less than five years and much as I have come to admire Rupert (and the longer he's been gone the greater my admiration has grown), I'm not convinced of his genius.
Still, anything has got to be better than the current farce - even having Michael Wilde back (maybe?).
Posted by: Saint Ash, at home on 8:49pm Wed 19 Mar 08
[quote][bold]TrueFan 71[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Beaster Boy[/bold] wrote: A year or so ago [bold]nobody[/bold] had a good word to say about Rupert Lowe, suddenly he's become misunderstood and the new saviour! What a bunch of Judas's you lot are, the man was and still is an Arsehole of the highest order who was single-handedly responsible for the position we now find ourselves, it was the way he set up the PLC that has stopped interested parties from becoming involved and now you want him back. B*ll*cks to you all, If he comes back in any capacity whatsoever, I for one will not set foot in St Mary's again and I expect many thousands of others will not either. I would rather support the club in the 3rd division than have him back![/quote] Good, off you go to Bournemouth or Brighton. I'd be happy to buy another season ticket if it meant the biggoted, vociferous, class hating minority were relegated and true, sensible supporters were allowed to once again enjoy football at St Mary's.[/quote] Anyone now backing Lowe is talking out of their arse!
Lowe IS 90% responsable for the trouble we now find ourselves in, both on the pith through complete lack of real investment ever IN his chairmanship and off the pitch due to the complex reverse takeover of the club in the 1st place. Just remember, LESS that 3.5 million pounds of the clubs money was invested in THE most impostant part of the PLC...the 1st team, how does that make sence? What PLC get's through more managers than years in charge? DO you realise that we paid out more in compensation than we did in transfer fee's?
What about the Stadium i hear "loweites" scream, well what about it? Southampton City Council pushed the club in to moving to that site by making the land available.What about the Accademy? well at least by selling off the players that have come through we havn't gone bankrupt, but then i thought that was put in place so we didn't have to buy players. Make no mistake, as a football club we are in really deep poo! this is going to be a little bit bumpy for the next 8 games. If, by the end of May we are in the same division then we can count ourselves very lucky indeed, and IF we are still solvent by the end of September 08, then we can count ourselves even luckier! The club needs to be sold; lock stock and barrel to someone with money to invest, and a proper business outlook.The whole thing needs to be shookdown and built back up as a PROPER football club.BUT NOT BY RUPERT LOWE.
TrueFan 71 wrote:
Beaster Boy wrote: A year or so ago nobody had a good word to say about Rupert Lowe, suddenly he's become misunderstood and the new saviour! What a bunch of Judas's you lot are, the man was and still is an Arsehole of the highest order who was single-handedly responsible for the position we now find ourselves, it was the way he set up the PLC that has stopped interested parties from becoming involved and now you want him back. B*ll*cks to you all, If he comes back in any capacity whatsoever, I for one will not set foot in St Mary's again and I expect many thousands of others will not either. I would rather support the club in the 3rd division than have him back!
Good, off you go to Bournemouth or Brighton. I'd be happy to buy another season ticket if it meant the biggoted, vociferous, class hating minority were relegated and true, sensible supporters were allowed to once again enjoy football at St Mary's.
Anyone now backing Lowe is talking out of their arse!
Lowe IS 90% responsable for the trouble we now find ourselves in, both on the pith through complete lack of real investment ever IN his chairmanship and off the pitch due to the complex reverse takeover of the club in the 1st place. Just remember, LESS that 3.5 million pounds of the clubs money was invested in THE most impostant part of the PLC...the 1st team, how does that make sence? What PLC get's through more managers than years in charge? DO you realise that we paid out more in compensation than we did in transfer fee's?
What about the Stadium i hear "loweites" scream, well what about it? Southampton City Council pushed the club in to moving to that site by making the land available.What about the Accademy? well at least by selling off the players that have come through we havn't gone bankrupt, but then i thought that was put in place so we didn't have to buy players. Make no mistake, as a football club we are in really deep poo! this is going to be a little bit bumpy for the next 8 games. If, by the end of May we are in the same division then we can count ourselves very lucky indeed, and IF we are still solvent by the end of September 08, then we can count ourselves even luckier! The club needs to be sold; lock stock and barrel to someone with money to invest, and a proper business outlook.The whole thing needs to be shookdown and built back up as a PROPER football club.BUT NOT BY RUPERT LOWE.
Posted by: Mike Lang, New Zealand on 9:06pm Wed 19 Mar 08
These two have to be mischief makers and they are do a superb job. Their timing is immaculate.
I wonder how much the madia are paying someone as they are the only ones benefiting this whole sorry saga.
I can't see Saints avoiding relegation now
These two have to be mischief makers and they are do a superb job. Their timing is immaculate.
I wonder how much the madia are paying someone as they are the only ones benefiting this whole sorry saga.
I can't see Saints avoiding relegation now
Posted by: Andy P, Bitterne on 9:23pm Wed 19 Mar 08
[quote][bold]TrueFan 71[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Beaster Boy[/bold] wrote: A year or so ago [bold]nobody[/bold] had a good word to say about Rupert Lowe, suddenly he's become misunderstood and the new saviour! What a bunch of Judas's you lot are, the man was and still is an Arsehole of the highest order who was single-handedly responsible for the position we now find ourselves, it was the way he set up the PLC that has stopped interested parties from becoming involved and now you want him back. B*ll*cks to you all, If he comes back in any capacity whatsoever, I for one will not set foot in St Mary's again and I expect many thousands of others will not either. I would rather support the club in the 3rd division than have him back![/quote] Good, off you go to Bournemouth or Brighton. I'd be happy to buy another season ticket if it meant the biggoted, vociferous, class hating minority were relegated and true, sensible supporters were allowed to once again enjoy football at St Mary's.[/quote] Says Simple Simon, the office worker, the TRUE AND SENSIBLE supporter,drinking his horlicks.
That round thing is called a football.
What planet are you on.
TrueFan 71 wrote:
Beaster Boy wrote: A year or so ago nobody had a good word to say about Rupert Lowe, suddenly he's become misunderstood and the new saviour! What a bunch of Judas's you lot are, the man was and still is an Arsehole of the highest order who was single-handedly responsible for the position we now find ourselves, it was the way he set up the PLC that has stopped interested parties from becoming involved and now you want him back. B*ll*cks to you all, If he comes back in any capacity whatsoever, I for one will not set foot in St Mary's again and I expect many thousands of others will not either. I would rather support the club in the 3rd division than have him back!
Good, off you go to Bournemouth or Brighton. I'd be happy to buy another season ticket if it meant the biggoted, vociferous, class hating minority were relegated and true, sensible supporters were allowed to once again enjoy football at St Mary's.
Says Simple Simon, the office worker, the TRUE AND SENSIBLE supporter,drinking his horlicks.
That round thing is called a football.
What planet are you on.
Posted by: Mark, preston on 9:28pm Wed 19 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Chris[/bold] wrote:
Ok, lets be realistic here. Some of the best times recently were under Lowe. New stadium, FA Cup and Wembley. Ok, we all know that failure to invest after the FA Cup and too many managerial changes cost us in the long run but you know, Redknapp was ultimately responsible for relegation (we should never have gone down with that squad) and for destabilising us afterwards. I think that we all agree that when Lowe appointed Strachan, Hoddle, Redknapp and Burley we were all very pleased at the time. It was all the other odd appointments we could never fathom (Gray, Wigley, even Sturrock). My point is this - was life so bad under Lowe? we're not the only club to have lost Premiership status recently and it was good odds it was going to happen sometime. We were also always very financially stable and we good a great deal with Theo under the circumstances. Just think we should use our heads before we jump up and down shouting. I now look forward to being vilified on this site![/quote] Couldn't agree more, the club did appear to be pretty stable under Lowe's leadership.
The bad appointments were very bad though!! I do think Sturrock could have worked given more time, just feel he came in demanding respect before earning the respect.
We all want whats best for the club and if that means Lowe then so be it. Lets just hope we can survive this season and let NP re-build for next season his own way.
Up the saints
Chris wrote:
Ok, lets be realistic here. Some of the best times recently were under Lowe. New stadium, FA Cup and Wembley. Ok, we all know that failure to invest after the FA Cup and too many managerial changes cost us in the long run but you know, Redknapp was ultimately responsible for relegation (we should never have gone down with that squad) and for destabilising us afterwards. I think that we all agree that when Lowe appointed Strachan, Hoddle, Redknapp and Burley we were all very pleased at the time. It was all the other odd appointments we could never fathom (Gray, Wigley, even Sturrock). My point is this - was life so bad under Lowe? we're not the only club to have lost Premiership status recently and it was good odds it was going to happen sometime. We were also always very financially stable and we good a great deal with Theo under the circumstances. Just think we should use our heads before we jump up and down shouting. I now look forward to being vilified on this site!
Couldn't agree more, the club did appear to be pretty stable under Lowe's leadership.
The bad appointments were very bad though!! I do think Sturrock could have worked given more time, just feel he came in demanding respect before earning the respect.
We all want whats best for the club and if that means Lowe then so be it. Lets just hope we can survive this season and let NP re-build for next season his own way.
Up the saints
Posted by: Beaster Boy, Bassett on 9:39pm Wed 19 Mar 08
For the good of the Saints (nearly said club them!)Rupert Lowe must [bold]not[/bold] come back. See how just the very thought of a comeback has divided the fan base.
Just what we need with the club in it's worst predicament for mamy many years (if not ever).
When we should all be uniting to try and help the team remain in this league we're now devoting our time to petty bickering between ourselves over the pro's & cons of what can best be described as a "political jockeying for position" or perhaps cynically a way of protecting an investment. Can't say I'm convinced that this has suddenly come to the forefront for the good of SFC, more likely SLH PLC.
But then again I'm not a self-confessed Rupert admirer.
p.s I apologise for calling him an Arsehole in a previous post, wouldn't wish to slander of libel him. (after all there is no comparison, you only get sh!t out of an arsehole)
For the good of the Saints (nearly said club them!)Rupert Lowe must
not come back. See how just the very thought of a comeback has divided the fan base.
Just what we need with the club in it's worst predicament for mamy many years (if not ever).
When we should all be uniting to try and help the team remain in this league we're now devoting our time to petty bickering between ourselves over the pro's & cons of what can best be described as a "political jockeying for position" or perhaps cynically a way of protecting an investment. Can't say I'm convinced that this has suddenly come to the forefront for the good of SFC, more likely SLH PLC.
But then again I'm not a self-confessed Rupert admirer.
p.s I apologise for calling him an Arsehole in a previous post, wouldn't wish to slander of libel him. (after all there is no comparison, you only get sh!t out of an arsehole)
Posted by: Graham, portsmouth on 9:55pm Wed 19 Mar 08
[italic][bold]PLAY UP POMPEY, POMPEY PLAY UP!![/bold][/italic]
PLAY UP POMPEY, POMPEY PLAY UP!! Posted by: JOKKY, West Wellow on 10:17pm Wed 19 Mar 08
I have terrible news - there is a world out there. In it, financial decisions come and go, regardless of the opinions of "JOE JEANS AND LEATHER JACKET"
I have terrible news - there is a world out there. In it, financial decisions come and go, regardless of the opinions of "JOE JEANS AND LEATHER JACKET"
Posted by: butty, Le rice on 10:26pm Wed 19 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Chris[/bold] wrote:
Not sure what short minded means but never mind. Didn't think it would be long before i got it in the neck for my comments. You are very naive if you think that WGS would have stayed at Saints past the summer had he been backed - he has his eyes set on Man UTD and sees Celtic as his stepping stone, not Saints. Also, if you read my comments I make many of the points you so eloquently put after your w***** comment. [/quote] Seems like you have answered your own question and just posted comment for re-assurance.
Why go back?
Also wGS has been gone nearly 4 seasons, I may be naive but I think he was more likely to stay with backing than without, I'd like to have possibly had him here a little longer. If Lowe didn't invest in wGS then no one else would stand a chance.
Chris wrote:
Not sure what short minded means but never mind. Didn't think it would be long before i got it in the neck for my comments. You are very naive if you think that WGS would have stayed at Saints past the summer had he been backed - he has his eyes set on Man UTD and sees Celtic as his stepping stone, not Saints. Also, if you read my comments I make many of the points you so eloquently put after your w***** comment.
Seems like you have answered your own question and just posted comment for re-assurance.
Why go back?
Also wGS has been gone nearly 4 seasons, I may be naive but I think he was more likely to stay with backing than without, I'd like to have possibly had him here a little longer. If Lowe didn't invest in wGS then no one else would stand a chance.
Posted by: pugwash, SOUTHAMPTON on 10:26pm Wed 19 Mar 08
LOOKS LIKE CHRISTMAS IS COMING EARLY-IF IT HAPPENS,THE LONG HAUL BACK TO THE PREM. CAN BEGIN
LOOKS LIKE CHRISTMAS IS COMING EARLY-IF IT HAPPENS,THE LONG HAUL BACK TO THE PREM. CAN BEGIN
Posted by: stripey on 10:41pm Wed 19 Mar 08
It saddens me to see the state of the club and the polar opposite views of the fans expressed on this site is symptomatic of the club's decline in fortune on and off the pitch. I just hope that if we do go down (which looks quite possible, likely even) next season will see us have some success on the pitch at least. However, the financial turmoil is probably going to last a lot longer unless some knight in shining armour comes along with shed loads of cash. Rupert Lowe a night in shining armour? I don't think so.
It saddens me to see the state of the club and the polar opposite views of the fans expressed on this site is symptomatic of the club's decline in fortune on and off the pitch. I just hope that if we do go down (which looks quite possible, likely even) next season will see us have some success on the pitch at least. However, the financial turmoil is probably going to last a lot longer unless some knight in shining armour comes along with shed loads of cash. Rupert Lowe a night in shining armour? I don't think so.
Posted by: stripey on 10:41pm Wed 19 Mar 08
It saddens me to see the state of the club and the polar opposite views of the fans expressed on this site is symptomatic of the club's decline in fortune on and off the pitch. I just hope that if we do go down (which looks quite possible, likely even) next season will see us have some success on the pitch at least. However, the financial turmoil is probably going to last a lot longer unless some knight in shining armour comes along with shed loads of cash. Rupert Lowe a night in shining armour? I don't think so.
It saddens me to see the state of the club and the polar opposite views of the fans expressed on this site is symptomatic of the club's decline in fortune on and off the pitch. I just hope that if we do go down (which looks quite possible, likely even) next season will see us have some success on the pitch at least. However, the financial turmoil is probably going to last a lot longer unless some knight in shining armour comes along with shed loads of cash. Rupert Lowe a night in shining armour? I don't think so.
Posted by: JOKKY, West Wellow on 10:48pm Wed 19 Mar 08
Well done STRIPEY
2 copies of the same comment. How can you be taken seriously?
Well done STRIPEY
2 copies of the same comment. How can you be taken seriously?
