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| FLASH BACK: Matthew Myatt with his son Thomas, 9, who tried to save Sid the Sycamore |
Campaigners fight to save one of Eastleigh's most historic trees have lost their battle this morning.
Shortly before 8.30am tree surgeons arrived at the Point to cut down a sycamore tree, named locally as Sid.
The tree was planted 72 years ago to celebrate Eastleigh becoming a borough.
It took less than three hours for two tree surgeons to hack down the much-loved tree.
Campaigner Matthew Myatt said: "It is devastating day for residents and a great loss for future generations."
Eastleigh Borough Council wanted the tree removed to allow for the extension of the Point Dance Centre.
3:27pm Monday 24th March 2008
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CommentPosted by: Log on, New Forest on 10:41am Mon 24 Mar 08
Lets hope the logs are given to some OAP's in need of heat
Lets hope the logs are given to some OAP's in need of heat
Posted by: John B, Eastleigh on 11:50am Mon 24 Mar 08
I always understood that the Chamberlain McDonalds gave the rec to the people of Eastleigh for them to enjoy as an open space.
If this is correct, how can this building work be justified legally or morally?
I always understood that the Chamberlain McDonalds gave the rec to the people of Eastleigh for them to enjoy as an open space.
If this is correct, how can this building work be justified legally or morally?
Posted by: sailor sam, portsmouth on 12:23pm Mon 24 Mar 08
How nice to know that the people elected to represent the residents of Eastleigh, do not listen to what they want, once they are elected!
How nice to know that the people elected to represent the residents of Eastleigh, do not listen to what they want, once they are elected!
Posted by: cford red, cford on 12:31pm Mon 24 Mar 08
[quote][bold]sailor sam[/bold] wrote:
How nice to know that the people elected to represent the residents of Eastleigh, do not listen to what they want, once they are elected! [/quote] since when do politicians listen to the electorate, all they are interested in is scoring political points against the other parties,and looking after their own financial interests applies across the whole spectrum
sailor sam wrote:
How nice to know that the people elected to represent the residents of Eastleigh, do not listen to what they want, once they are elected!
since when do politicians listen to the electorate, all they are interested in is scoring political points against the other parties,and looking after their own financial interests applies across the whole spectrum
Posted by: concerned, southampton on 1:19pm Mon 24 Mar 08
adding to the carbon footprint doubly by removing a tree that uses up carbon dioxide and produces oxygen to errect a building that will greatly increase the carbon footprint . APPALING
adding to the carbon footprint doubly by removing a tree that uses up carbon dioxide and produces oxygen to errect a building that will greatly increase the carbon footprint . APPALING
Posted by: concerned, southampton on 1:22pm Mon 24 Mar 08
adding to the carbon footprint doubly by removing a tree that uses up carbon dioxide and produces oxygen. Then to errect a building that will greatly increase the carbon footprint . APPALING
(correction of previous post)
adding to the carbon footprint doubly by removing a tree that uses up carbon dioxide and produces oxygen. Then to errect a building that will greatly increase the carbon footprint . APPALING
(correction of previous post)
Posted by: paul b on 1:40pm Mon 24 Mar 08
Now what will that little jumped up squeaker in the video do with his time?
Get a job, naaaaaa
Now what will that little jumped up squeaker in the video do with his time?
Get a job, naaaaaa
Posted by: hulla, baloo on 1:57pm Mon 24 Mar 08
[quote][bold]concerned[/bold] wrote:
adding to the carbon footprint doubly by removing a tree that uses up carbon dioxide and produces oxygen. Then to errect a building that will greatly increase the carbon footprint . APPALING (correction of previous post)[/quote] Only 1 r in erect, and another l needed in
concerned wrote:
adding to the carbon footprint doubly by removing a tree that uses up carbon dioxide and produces oxygen. Then to errect a building that will greatly increase the carbon footprint . APPALING (correction of previous post)
Only 1 r in erect, and another l needed in
Posted by: Dave S @ Eastleigh on 2:51pm Mon 24 Mar 08
This just proves a point, they'll do or say anything to get elected. After that we don't matter. they'll just 'steam roller' their way through.
This just proves a point, they'll do or say anything to get elected. After that we don't matter. they'll just 'steam roller' their way through.
Posted by: WATCHER, Eastleigh on 3:13pm Mon 24 Mar 08
I watched the cutting down this morning, it cost us a fortune, 8 tree surgeons, 4 Security Guards and 2 Police Officers and all on a double time bank holiday...they are having a laugh!
I watched the cutting down this morning, it cost us a fortune, 8 tree surgeons, 4 Security Guards and 2 Police Officers and all on a double time bank holiday...they are having a laugh!
Posted by: Mike, Hythe on 3:16pm Mon 24 Mar 08
Am I the only one that thinks Shazza (No such name) is thick. EBC always does what the people that elected them don't want them to do. For instance, build on allotments, destroy historical buildings and remove a tree that was put there in celebration on land that was gifted to the borough, not the weasels in EBC.
Am I the only one that thinks Shazza (No such name) is thick. EBC always does what the people that elected them don't want them to do. For instance, build on allotments, destroy historical buildings and remove a tree that was put there in celebration on land that was gifted to the borough, not the weasels in EBC.
Posted by: Mr E, Eastleigh on 3:39pm Mon 24 Mar 08
Mike
EBC does whatever it want's. The Population of Eastleigh are only there to pay for it
Mike
EBC does whatever it want's. The Population of Eastleigh are only there to pay for it
Posted by: Bunny Rabbit, Easter egg lane on 3:52pm Mon 24 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Log on[/bold] wrote:
Lets hope the logs are given to some OAP's in need of heat[/quote] What the OAP's who are sitting in their £200,000 houses. Whilst us youngsters are stuck in rented accomadation but work our arses off! We can't afford to pay for heat either, so why is da old people always moaning. Wish I had a house.
Log on wrote:
Lets hope the logs are given to some OAP's in need of heat
What the OAP's who are sitting in their £200,000 houses. Whilst us youngsters are stuck in rented accomadation but work our arses off! We can't afford to pay for heat either, so why is da old people always moaning. Wish I had a house.
Posted by: Christoff on 4:02pm Mon 24 Mar 08
[quote][bold]concerned[/bold] wrote:
adding to the carbon footprint doubly by removing a tree that uses up carbon dioxide and produces oxygen. Then to errect a building that will greatly increase the carbon footprint . APPALING (correction of previous post)[/quote] carbon footprint blah blah blah. It doesn't even really mean anything! Stop bandying around this pathetic media buzz word.
concerned wrote:
adding to the carbon footprint doubly by removing a tree that uses up carbon dioxide and produces oxygen. Then to errect a building that will greatly increase the carbon footprint . APPALING (correction of previous post)
carbon footprint blah blah blah. It doesn't even really mean anything! Stop bandying around this pathetic media buzz word.
Posted by: Robert on 4:35pm Mon 24 Mar 08
That won't stop the Council from shutting down the Point Dance Centre in a year or so and building flats there.
That won't stop the Council from shutting down the Point Dance Centre in a year or so and building flats there.
Posted by: Louise Harris, Eastleigh on 4:46pm Mon 24 Mar 08
I go to The Point a lot and it will be great to have more space. The Rec has lots of other trees and anyway the council say they will plant two more now. Think about us young people who use The Point!
I go to The Point a lot and it will be great to have more space. The Rec has lots of other trees and anyway the council say they will plant two more now. Think about us young people who use The Point!
Posted by: nature lover, Eastleigh on 5:39pm Mon 24 Mar 08
Utterly disgusting behaviour by Eastleigh Borough Council. Did their so called 'planners' not have the experience or know how to actually include the tree in their new building plans? For example, in a little courtyard area, where the 'young people' that will supposedly use these new facilities could have had their breaks, sat under this lovely tree's shade.
I wonder how long it will be before the Council decide to go against their policy once more, to take yet another piece of public land?
Utterly disgusting behaviour by Eastleigh Borough Council. Did their so called 'planners' not have the experience or know how to actually include the tree in their new building plans? For example, in a little courtyard area, where the 'young people' that will supposedly use these new facilities could have had their breaks, sat under this lovely tree's shade.
I wonder how long it will be before the Council decide to go against their policy once more, to take yet another piece of public land?
Posted by: Lumberjack, New Forest on 5:41pm Mon 24 Mar 08
Did you see the size of that dog handler who was closing the fencing, you would not want to mess with him, probably hence why 'swampy' clone did not do anything!
Why oh why did the tree surgeons chip Sid, surely they could have used his logs to help the OAP's of Eastleigh to keep warm? If Sid had been blown over due to high winds or whatever and crashed through the top of a building, you can bet that the council would be getting it in the neck for not preventing that happening.
One tree in Eastleigh compared to hundreds of acres every day in the rain forest, it does not really compare does it?
Did you see the size of that dog handler who was closing the fencing, you would not want to mess with him, probably hence why 'swampy' clone did not do anything!
Why oh why did the tree surgeons chip Sid, surely they could have used his logs to help the OAP's of Eastleigh to keep warm? If Sid had been blown over due to high winds or whatever and crashed through the top of a building, you can bet that the council would be getting it in the neck for not preventing that happening.
One tree in Eastleigh compared to hundreds of acres every day in the rain forest, it does not really compare does it?
Posted by: Laura, east Sussex on 6:38pm Mon 24 Mar 08
Where were all the protesters when the tree was being cut down? All councillors are self obsessed twats and do not care what others want, and yes christoff the carbon foot print is a fact of life and had you listened at svhool you would know that trees use carbon momxide and produce oxygen.
Where were all the protesters when the tree was being cut down? All councillors are self obsessed twats and do not care what others want, and yes christoff the carbon foot print is a fact of life and had you listened at svhool you would know that trees use carbon momxide and produce oxygen.
Posted by: Pete, Folkestone on 6:51pm Mon 24 Mar 08
People of Eastleigh - write to your MP about the appalling abuse of local authority power.How dare they ride rough shod over your rights and destroy that beautiful tree.Withhold your council tax payments in protest,demand a meeting with your local councilor to ask what else they intend to do that the people object to.How dare they hide behind security guards and the police - they are accountable to the people.I will be voicing my disgust to EBC even though I am 130 miles away.This sort of action needs addressing before our democratic state becomes a police state or has it already?
People of Eastleigh - write to your MP about the appalling abuse of local authority power.How dare they ride rough shod over your rights and destroy that beautiful tree.Withhold your council tax payments in protest,demand a meeting with your local councilor to ask what else they intend to do that the people object to.How dare they hide behind security guards and the police - they are accountable to the people.I will be voicing my disgust to EBC even though I am 130 miles away.This sort of action needs addressing before our democratic state becomes a police state or has it already?
Posted by: Fiona, Eastleigh on 7:18pm Mon 24 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Laura[/bold] wrote:
Where were all the protesters when the tree was being cut down? All councillors are self obsessed twats and do not care what others want, and yes christoff the carbon foot print is a fact of life and had you listened at svhool you would know that trees use carbon momxide and produce oxygen. [/quote] Laura from East Sussex:
You clearly weren't listening at school. Trees use Carbon Dioxide, and you can't spell - what is "carbon momxide"
Laura wrote:
Where were all the protesters when the tree was being cut down? All councillors are self obsessed twats and do not care what others want, and yes christoff the carbon foot print is a fact of life and had you listened at svhool you would know that trees use carbon momxide and produce oxygen.
Laura from East Sussex:
You clearly weren't listening at school. Trees use Carbon Dioxide, and you can't spell - what is "carbon momxide"
Posted by: wicked witch on 7:18pm Mon 24 Mar 08
yes probably,and getting a life ,you saddo
yes probably,and getting a life ,you saddo
Posted by: Terry Flop on 7:40pm Mon 24 Mar 08
[quote][bold]wicked witch[/bold] wrote:
yes probably,and getting a life ,you saddo [/quote] So you admit that you need spelling lessons and a life, then call me a saddo.....? Hmm something not right there.
wicked witch wrote:
yes probably,and getting a life ,you saddo
So you admit that you need spelling lessons and a life, then call me a saddo.....? Hmm something not right there.
Posted by: Obie Lynx on 7:41pm Mon 24 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Fiona[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Laura[/bold] wrote: Where were all the protesters when the tree was being cut down? All councillors are self obsessed twats and do not care what others want, and yes christoff the carbon foot print is a fact of life and had you listened at svhool you would know that trees use carbon momxide and produce oxygen. [/quote] Laura from East Sussex: You clearly weren't listening at school. Trees use Carbon Dioxide, and you can't spell - what is "carbon momxide" [/quote] I think she knew what she meant....I worked out what she meant too, so whats the big deal, you pansy.
Fiona wrote:
Laura wrote: Where were all the protesters when the tree was being cut down? All councillors are self obsessed twats and do not care what others want, and yes christoff the carbon foot print is a fact of life and had you listened at svhool you would know that trees use carbon momxide and produce oxygen.
Laura from East Sussex: You clearly weren't listening at school. Trees use Carbon Dioxide, and you can't spell - what is "carbon momxide"
I think she knew what she meant....I worked out what she meant too, so whats the big deal, you pansy.
Posted by: sailor sam, portsmouth on 7:50pm Mon 24 Mar 08
[quote][bold]cford red[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]sailor sam[/bold] wrote: How nice to know that the people elected to represent the residents of Eastleigh, do not listen to what they want, once they are elected! [/quote] since when do politicians listen to the electorate, all they are interested in is scoring political points against the other parties,and looking after their own financial interests applies across the whole spectrum[/quote] The power is in the hands of those that vote!
If someone found out which councillers voted to have the tree cut down, then you would know which councillers to 'give the chop' at the council elections!
It is what is called, 'Using Your Vote'!
Don't leave it to someone else, make sure you use your vote!
cford red wrote:
sailor sam wrote: How nice to know that the people elected to represent the residents of Eastleigh, do not listen to what they want, once they are elected!
since when do politicians listen to the electorate, all they are interested in is scoring political points against the other parties,and looking after their own financial interests applies across the whole spectrum
The power is in the hands of those that vote!
If someone found out which councillers voted to have the tree cut down, then you would know which councillers to 'give the chop' at the council elections!
It is what is called, 'Using Your Vote'!
Don't leave it to someone else, make sure you use your vote!
Posted by: wicked witch, wilts on 8:05pm Mon 24 Mar 08
[quote][bold]paul b[/bold] wrote:
Now what will that little jumped up squeaker in the video do with his time? Get a job, naaaaaa[/quote] that would involve using his brain not his mouth.
paul b wrote:
Now what will that little jumped up squeaker in the video do with his time? Get a job, naaaaaa
that would involve using his brain not his mouth.
Posted by: Mr Moo, the field on 8:29pm Mon 24 Mar 08
72 years ago Eastleigh may have been a nice area, however, it is now a complete dump.
Hopefully this is the start of a clean up of Eastleigh, level it and start again.
72 years ago Eastleigh may have been a nice area, however, it is now a complete dump.
Hopefully this is the start of a clean up of Eastleigh, level it and start again.
Posted by: Eastleigh Resident, Eastleigh on 8:35pm Mon 24 Mar 08
Another Inhouse decision!
Another Inhouse decision!
Posted by: laura, east sussex on 8:40pm Mon 24 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Obie Lynx[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Fiona[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Laura[/bold] wrote: Where were all the protesters when the tree was being cut down? All councillors are self obsessed twats and do not care what others want, and yes christoff the carbon foot print is a fact of life and had you listened at svhool you would know that trees use carbon momxide and produce oxygen. [/quote] Laura from East Sussex: You clearly weren't listening at school. Trees use Carbon Dioxide, and you can't spell - what is "carbon momxide" [/quote] I think she knew what she meant....I worked out what she meant too, so whats the big deal, you pansy.[/quote] Thank you Obie Lynx,I can spell-have a wrist plaster and pressed wrong digit. Shame Fiona is too thick to comment on the tree and not my spelling.I see beautiful trees being cut down too often, it is sad, these councillors are a disgrace but we will all carry on paying the taxes.
Obie Lynx wrote:
Fiona wrote: Laura wrote: Where were all the protesters when the tree was being cut down? All councillors are self obsessed twats and do not care what others want, and yes christoff the carbon foot print is a fact of life and had you listened at svhool you would know that trees use carbon momxide and produce oxygen.
Laura from East Sussex: You clearly weren't listening at school. Trees use Carbon Dioxide, and you can't spell - what is "carbon momxide"
I think she knew what she meant....I worked out what she meant too, so whats the big deal, you pansy.
Thank you Obie Lynx,I can spell-have a wrist plaster and pressed wrong digit. Shame Fiona is too thick to comment on the tree and not my spelling.I see beautiful trees being cut down too often, it is sad, these councillors are a disgrace but we will all carry on paying the taxes.
Posted by: Seawisedave, Eastleigh on 8:43pm Mon 24 Mar 08
I do not think this is the end of the matter. The actions by the "council" are in the grey area of legality as a court challenge to the felling of sid was pending. Whatever the outcome, let us not have short memories come next election time.
Shame on you, ECB!
I do not think this is the end of the matter. The actions by the "council" are in the grey area of legality as a court challenge to the felling of sid was pending. Whatever the outcome, let us not have short memories come next election time.
Shame on you, ECB!
Posted by: Berenice Tudgay, Wilts on 9:34pm Mon 24 Mar 08
Terry if you are going to pick on a poster for their spelling and grammar at least make sure your post is 100% perfect.
Terry if you are going to pick on a poster for their spelling and grammar at least make sure your post is 100% perfect.
Posted by: King Mush, Woolston on 9:36pm Mon 24 Mar 08
Dontcha just love all these nerds who waste so much energy on mini-flames over spelling and grammar etc?
They remind me of this tree story.
PLANKS!
Dontcha just love all these nerds who waste so much energy on mini-flames over spelling and grammar etc?
They remind me of this tree story.
PLANKS!
Posted by: poopie on 9:47pm Mon 24 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Berenice Tudgay[/bold] wrote:
Terry if you are going to pick on a poster for their spelling and grammar at least make sure your post is 100% perfect.[/quote] Bog off you unwanted toilet brush
Berenice Tudgay wrote:
Terry if you are going to pick on a poster for their spelling and grammar at least make sure your post is 100% perfect.
Bog off you unwanted toilet brush
Posted by: wayne, chandlers ford on 9:53pm Mon 24 Mar 08
EBC would like think they are green, but left to the councillers the would cut down every bit of greenery
EBC would like think they are green, but left to the councillers the would cut down every bit of greenery
Posted by: jamie harris, wiltshire on 9:53pm Mon 24 Mar 08
[quote][bold]poopie[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Berenice Tudgay[/bold] wrote: Terry if you are going to pick on a poster for their spelling and grammar at least make sure your post is 100% perfect.[/quote] Bog off you unwanted toilet brush[/quote] thats ma sista dont call her a bog brush she as a betta life then you she dosent cry over a tree
poopie wrote:
Berenice Tudgay wrote: Terry if you are going to pick on a poster for their spelling and grammar at least make sure your post is 100% perfect.
Bog off you unwanted toilet brush
thats ma sista dont call her a bog brush she as a betta life then you she dosent cry over a tree
Posted by: the Truth Master, in the Real World on 9:58pm Mon 24 Mar 08
[quote][bold]WATCHER[/bold] wrote:
I watched the cutting down this morning, it cost us a fortune, 8 tree surgeons, 4 Security Guards and 2 Police Officers and all on a double time bank holiday...they are having a laugh![/quote] were the 2 Police Officers from the SPECIAL BRANCH???
WATCHER wrote:
I watched the cutting down this morning, it cost us a fortune, 8 tree surgeons, 4 Security Guards and 2 Police Officers and all on a double time bank holiday...they are having a laugh!
were the 2 Police Officers from the SPECIAL BRANCH???
Posted by: chopper h, bisley on 10:03pm Mon 24 Mar 08
[bold]bold[/bold] i enjoyed my night out and earned some money
i enjoyed my night out and earned some money
Posted by: chopper h, bisley on 10:12pm Mon 24 Mar 08
i meet sid he was great to talk to i spent alot of time with him before he lost his appeal.
i meet sid he was great to talk to i spent alot of time with him before he lost his appeal.
Posted by: wicked witch, wilts on 10:12pm Mon 24 Mar 08
[quote][bold]chopper h[/bold] wrote:
[bold]bold[/bold] i enjoyed my night out and earned some money[/quote] AND YOU ARE SUCH A HANDSOME SECURITY BLOKE,YOU CAN GUARD MY TREE ANYTIME
chopper h wrote:
i enjoyed my night out and earned some money
AND YOU ARE SUCH A HANDSOME SECURITY BLOKE,YOU CAN GUARD MY TREE ANYTIME
Posted by: chopper h, bisley on 10:16pm Mon 24 Mar 08
well it nice to know that, sid also had a full english before the end.
well it nice to know that, sid also had a full english before the end.
Posted by: Berty on 10:18pm Mon 24 Mar 08
[quote][bold]chopper h[/bold] wrote:
i meet sid he was great to talk to i spent alot of time with him before he lost his appeal. [/quote] I'm glad he had such a good bloke to see him through his final hours rather than some swampy type character stuck in his branches.
chopper h wrote:
i meet sid he was great to talk to i spent alot of time with him before he lost his appeal.
I'm glad he had such a good bloke to see him through his final hours rather than some swampy type character stuck in his branches.
Posted by: Jenny Harris, wiltshire on 10:19pm Mon 24 Mar 08
[quote][bold]wicked witch[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]chopper h[/bold] wrote: [bold]bold[/bold] i enjoyed my night out and earned some money[/quote] AND YOU ARE SUCH A HANDSOME SECURITY BLOKE,YOU CAN GUARD MY TREE ANYTIME [/quote] mum do u mind?
wicked witch wrote:
chopper h wrote: i enjoyed my night out and earned some money
AND YOU ARE SUCH A HANDSOME SECURITY BLOKE,YOU CAN GUARD MY TREE ANYTIME
mum do u mind?
Posted by: jamie harris, wiltshire on 10:26pm Mon 24 Mar 08
i love trees trees are good lmaoo sad people i swear
i love trees trees are good lmaoo sad people i swear
Posted by: wicked witch, wilts on 10:35pm Mon 24 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Jenny Harris[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]wicked witch[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]chopper h[/bold] wrote: [bold]bold[/bold] i enjoyed my night out and earned some money[/quote] AND YOU ARE SUCH A HANDSOME SECURITY BLOKE,YOU CAN GUARD MY TREE ANYTIME [/quote] mum do u mind?[/quote] NO DO YOU
Jenny Harris wrote:
wicked witch wrote: chopper h wrote: i enjoyed my night out and earned some money
AND YOU ARE SUCH A HANDSOME SECURITY BLOKE,YOU CAN GUARD MY TREE ANYTIME
mum do u mind?
NO DO YOU
Posted by: wicked witch, wilts on 10:39pm Mon 24 Mar 08
[quote][bold]King Mush[/bold] wrote:
Dontcha just love all these nerds who waste so much energy on mini-flames over spelling and grammar etc? They remind me of this tree story. PLANKS![/quote] YOU GOT THE POINT,WHY DID IT TAKE MR FLOPPY SO LONG.
King Mush wrote:
Dontcha just love all these nerds who waste so much energy on mini-flames over spelling and grammar etc? They remind me of this tree story. PLANKS!
YOU GOT THE POINT,WHY DID IT TAKE MR FLOPPY SO LONG.
Posted by: The Council must be made to pay, Eastleigh on 3:44am Tue 25 Mar 08
I was not there today simply because our locally elected Council chose to use OUR MONEY, at probably "DOUBLE TIME" to employ a team of "Tree Surgeons" (That's a contradiction in terms in this case, surgeons are supposed to save lives not end them)PLUS A SECURITY FIRM (No doubt to protect the faceless people who authorized this murderous act) to hack down a tree when they knew that some people would be away enjoying the Easter Break. I am also concerned that this whole issue now goes further than saving a tree. It exposes fundamental flaws in a process that sets in place a system to LEGALLY register a protest, but then TOTALLY IGNORS that system. Our locally elected council officials should be held in contempt of court for showing total disregard to a legal process. RIP Sid Gone but NEVER EVER forgotten.
I was not there today simply because our locally elected Council chose to use OUR MONEY, at probably "DOUBLE TIME" to employ a team of "Tree Surgeons" (That's a contradiction in terms in this case, surgeons are supposed to save lives not end them)PLUS A SECURITY FIRM (No doubt to protect the faceless people who authorized this murderous act) to hack down a tree when they knew that some people would be away enjoying the Easter Break. I am also concerned that this whole issue now goes further than saving a tree. It exposes fundamental flaws in a process that sets in place a system to LEGALLY register a protest, but then TOTALLY IGNORS that system. Our locally elected council officials should be held in contempt of court for showing total disregard to a legal process. RIP Sid Gone but NEVER EVER forgotten.
Posted by: Madness, Eastleigh on 3:54am Tue 25 Mar 08
I find it crazy that most of the flames on here are from young teenage girls. If you had bothered to follow the whole issue you would have worked out that the guy that took the stand to save this tree was doing so to protect the rights of your future children and their children. Its more than just about a tree, its about the rights of people to have green open spaces, this tree was after all on public land that belongs to the people and so did the tree. Perhaps if he wore a hoodie and said 'init' to the TV crews you would have listened more, and understood what was really going on. As for me, I want to say well done to the guy, I know he has taken a lot of flack over this issue, but my god he stuck to his guns and tried to do something rather that sit drinking vodka and saying everything is so unfair.. Well done sir, you have more balls than any councillor, at least you faced the cameras to explain your point, where were they..?? Never will I vote Lib Dem in Eastleigh.!!
I find it crazy that most of the flames on here are from young teenage girls. If you had bothered to follow the whole issue you would have worked out that the guy that took the stand to save this tree was doing so to protect the rights of your future children and their children. Its more than just about a tree, its about the rights of people to have green open spaces, this tree was after all on public land that belongs to the people and so did the tree. Perhaps if he wore a hoodie and said 'init' to the TV crews you would have listened more, and understood what was really going on. As for me, I want to say well done to the guy, I know he has taken a lot of flack over this issue, but my god he stuck to his guns and tried to do something rather that sit drinking vodka and saying everything is so unfair.. Well done sir, you have more balls than any councillor, at least you faced the cameras to explain your point, where were they..?? Never will I vote Lib Dem in Eastleigh.!!
Posted by: Winchester MILF, Winchester on 4:04am Tue 25 Mar 08
I think most of the people understood exactly what Matthew was doing, it is a shame to read the horrid comments about him as I do know him. He is a great guy who cares deeply for Eastleigh. He is not a tree hugger, although in fairness Matthew, time to get out and do some shopping now and invest in a new razor and a better hat. What he has achieved by highlighting this issue will have a lasting effect on many of us in Hampshire. For those who want to criticise that’s fine, but have a valid point and ask yourself, what have you done for your community. Well done Matthew. Now take a well deserved rest.
I think most of the people understood exactly what Matthew was doing, it is a shame to read the horrid comments about him as I do know him. He is a great guy who cares deeply for Eastleigh. He is not a tree hugger, although in fairness Matthew, time to get out and do some shopping now and invest in a new razor and a better hat. What he has achieved by highlighting this issue will have a lasting effect on many of us in Hampshire. For those who want to criticise that’s fine, but have a valid point and ask yourself, what have you done for your community. Well done Matthew. Now take a well deserved rest.
Posted by: hannah, totton on 8:25am Tue 25 Mar 08
I agree, well done Matthew.
I agree, well done Matthew.
Posted by: Charlie on 8:52am Tue 25 Mar 08
A legal case pending and yet they went ahead., Just proves that councillors and council staff think they are above the law and will do what they want, not what the electorate want. One of these days I will hear one of them admit that they are SERVANTS. They are elected to SERVE the electorate or are empoyed as local governments SERVANTS (I know they prefer the more grandiose term of "officers" - makes them feel they have some authority over the people who pay them).
I spent most of my working life working for local authorities and never forgot I was there to serve the needs of local people. Unfortunately, now it's a case of empire building and bullying as this case clearly demonstrates.
A legal case pending and yet they went ahead., Just proves that councillors and council staff think they are above the law and will do what they want, not what the electorate want. One of these days I will hear one of them admit that they are SERVANTS. They are elected to SERVE the electorate or are empoyed as local governments SERVANTS (I know they prefer the more grandiose term of "officers" - makes them feel they have some authority over the people who pay them).
I spent most of my working life working for local authorities and never forgot I was there to serve the needs of local people. Unfortunately, now it's a case of empire building and bullying as this case clearly demonstrates.
Posted by: Jani Franck, Southampton on 9:27am Tue 25 Mar 08
Using the Bank Holiday, when they knew all who would turn up to stop them, as a cover for carrying out this illegal act was shameful.
Somewhere, some Council employees had a meeting and decided to use the religious festival of Easter to ensure that most of those who would have tried to stop them were away visiting family. Matthew was left alone at the last with the tree he had tried to save - a warrior in the true sense of the word.
Using the Bank Holiday, when they knew all who would turn up to stop them, as a cover for carrying out this illegal act was shameful.
Somewhere, some Council employees had a meeting and decided to use the religious festival of Easter to ensure that most of those who would have tried to stop them were away visiting family. Matthew was left alone at the last with the tree he had tried to save - a warrior in the true sense of the word.
Posted by: Heather, Eastleigh on 9:47am Tue 25 Mar 08
Is there any way, do you think that 'visiting performers' could stay in one of the two large hotels or dozen B&Bs we have here in Eastleigh? It would cost less than building and maintaining 'self-contained two bedroom flats' and give local hoteliers some trade.[italic]italic[/italic]
Is there any way, do you think that 'visiting performers' could stay in one of the two large hotels or dozen B&Bs we have here in Eastleigh? It would cost less than building and maintaining 'self-contained two bedroom flats' and give local hoteliers some trade.
Posted by: Cliff Moth, Fair Oak, Eastleigh on 10:09am Tue 25 Mar 08
Hitler in Germany and Stalin in Russia would have acted in this way. I wonder, with which of these, EBC most closely identifies? They certainly have as much contempt for wishes of the people who elected them.
Hitler in Germany and Stalin in Russia would have acted in this way. I wonder, with which of these, EBC most closely identifies? They certainly have as much contempt for wishes of the people who elected them.
Posted by: check your facts on 1:56pm Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Jani Franck[/bold] wrote:
Using the Bank Holiday, when they knew all who would turn up to stop them, as a cover for carrying out this illegal act was shameful. Somewhere, some Council employees had a meeting and decided to use the religious festival of Easter to ensure that most of those who would have tried to stop them were away visiting family. Matthew was left alone at the last with the tree he had tried to save - a warrior in the true sense of the word. [/quote] He was always alone..... except for his kids but only when a photography or film crew was near.....
Jani Franck wrote:
Using the Bank Holiday, when they knew all who would turn up to stop them, as a cover for carrying out this illegal act was shameful. Somewhere, some Council employees had a meeting and decided to use the religious festival of Easter to ensure that most of those who would have tried to stop them were away visiting family. Matthew was left alone at the last with the tree he had tried to save - a warrior in the true sense of the word.
He was always alone..... except for his kids but only when a photography or film crew was near.....
Posted by: Get the Point????????, Eastleigh on 2:04pm Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Winchester MILF[/bold] wrote:
I think most of the people understood exactly what Matthew was doing, it is a shame to read the horrid comments about him as I do know him. He is a great guy who cares deeply for Eastleigh. He is not a tree hugger, although in fairness Matthew, time to get out and do some shopping now and invest in a new razor and a better hat. What he has achieved by highlighting this issue will have a lasting effect on many of us in Hampshire. For those who want to criticise that’s fine, but have a valid point and ask yourself, what have you done for your community. Well done Matthew. Now take a well deserved rest. [/quote] I've done quite a lot for my community actually (including protecting local trees and having new trees planted) and all without resorting to underhand methods such as those used by this man, If this gentleman had been interested in saving the tree without any other adgenda, I would applaud him, it became more and more clear however that his gripe was not with the chopping down of the tree and more to do with his own self promotion, I suggest this man gets a job to fill his obviously abundant free time.
Winchester MILF wrote:
I think most of the people understood exactly what Matthew was doing, it is a shame to read the horrid comments about him as I do know him. He is a great guy who cares deeply for Eastleigh. He is not a tree hugger, although in fairness Matthew, time to get out and do some shopping now and invest in a new razor and a better hat. What he has achieved by highlighting this issue will have a lasting effect on many of us in Hampshire. For those who want to criticise that’s fine, but have a valid point and ask yourself, what have you done for your community. Well done Matthew. Now take a well deserved rest.
I've done quite a lot for my community actually (including protecting local trees and having new trees planted) and all without resorting to underhand methods such as those used by this man, If this gentleman had been interested in saving the tree without any other adgenda, I would applaud him, it became more and more clear however that his gripe was not with the chopping down of the tree and more to do with his own self promotion, I suggest this man gets a job to fill his obviously abundant free time.
Posted by: Depeche Mode, The 80's on 3:03pm Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Madness[/bold] wrote:
I find it crazy that most of the flames on here are from young teenage girls. If you had bothered to follow the whole issue you would have worked out that the guy that took the stand to save this tree was doing so to protect the rights of your future children and their children. Its more than just about a tree, its about the rights of people to have green open spaces, this tree was after all on public land that belongs to the people and so did the tree. Perhaps if he wore a hoodie and said 'init' to the TV crews you would have listened more, and understood what was really going on. As for me, I want to say well done to the guy, I know he has taken a lot of flack over this issue, but my god he stuck to his guns and tried to do something rather that sit drinking vodka and saying everything is so unfair.. Well done sir, you have more balls than any councillor, at least you faced the cameras to explain your point, where were they..?? Never will I vote Lib Dem in Eastleigh.!![/quote] 'Madness', you should have called yourself 'The Specials', then you could have commented about Eastleigh 'This Place Is Coming Like A Ghost Town' and you would not have been wrong!
Wonder what those dog handlers would have done if any body had gone 'One Step Beyond', just try to get into 'Our House' I can tell you! (okay enough Madness references!)
Very in-TREE-ging string of posts re this one though!
Madness wrote:
I find it crazy that most of the flames on here are from young teenage girls. If you had bothered to follow the whole issue you would have worked out that the guy that took the stand to save this tree was doing so to protect the rights of your future children and their children. Its more than just about a tree, its about the rights of people to have green open spaces, this tree was after all on public land that belongs to the people and so did the tree. Perhaps if he wore a hoodie and said 'init' to the TV crews you would have listened more, and understood what was really going on. As for me, I want to say well done to the guy, I know he has taken a lot of flack over this issue, but my god he stuck to his guns and tried to do something rather that sit drinking vodka and saying everything is so unfair.. Well done sir, you have more balls than any councillor, at least you faced the cameras to explain your point, where were they..?? Never will I vote Lib Dem in Eastleigh.!!
'Madness', you should have called yourself 'The Specials', then you could have commented about Eastleigh 'This Place Is Coming Like A Ghost Town' and you would not have been wrong!
Wonder what those dog handlers would have done if any body had gone 'One Step Beyond', just try to get into 'Our House' I can tell you! (okay enough Madness references!)
Very in-TREE-ging string of posts re this one though!
Posted by: He has a Job, Eastleigh on 5:32pm Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]check your facts[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Jani Franck[/bold] wrote: Using the Bank Holiday, when they knew all who would turn up to stop them, as a cover for carrying out this illegal act was shameful. Somewhere, some Council employees had a meeting and decided to use the religious festival of Easter to ensure that most of those who would have tried to stop them were away visiting family. Matthew was left alone at the last with the tree he had tried to save - a warrior in the true sense of the word. [/quote] He was always alone..... except for his kids but only when a photography or film crew was near.....[/quote] This post uses the name, 'check your facts.' Prehaps you should check yours. Just google Matthew Myatt to see what he has done for Eastleigh, charity and for local art and artists. Why can you not add to the issue rather than attacking someone who is trying to save our town while you are doing your best to attack the people that care about Eastleigh. Prehaps you should get a job as this guy clearly has one that he does very well. Good on you Matthew, don't listen to this fool.
check your facts wrote:
Jani Franck wrote: Using the Bank Holiday, when they knew all who would turn up to stop them, as a cover for carrying out this illegal act was shameful. Somewhere, some Council employees had a meeting and decided to use the religious festival of Easter to ensure that most of those who would have tried to stop them were away visiting family. Matthew was left alone at the last with the tree he had tried to save - a warrior in the true sense of the word.
He was always alone..... except for his kids but only when a photography or film crew was near.....
This post uses the name, 'check your facts.' Prehaps you should check yours. Just google Matthew Myatt to see what he has done for Eastleigh, charity and for local art and artists. Why can you not add to the issue rather than attacking someone who is trying to save our town while you are doing your best to attack the people that care about Eastleigh. Prehaps you should get a job as this guy clearly has one that he does very well. Good on you Matthew, don't listen to this fool.
Posted by: Dave S, Eastleigh on 5:40pm Tue 25 Mar 08
Today saw the DESTRUCTION of a beautiful HEALTHY tree. Just before am on this Bank Holiday Monday the EXECUTIONERS moved in and just after lunch, their job done left and went home to enjoy their Bank Holiday
EASTLEIGH BOROUGH COUNCIL DEATH SQUAD, you have been warned my vote WILL go to the other party. You are as underhanded as our Labour Government.
Today saw the DESTRUCTION of a beautiful HEALTHY tree. Just before am on this Bank Holiday Monday the EXECUTIONERS moved in and just after lunch, their job done left and went home to enjoy their Bank Holiday
EASTLEIGH BOROUGH COUNCIL DEATH SQUAD, you have been warned my vote WILL go to the other party. You are as underhanded as our Labour Government.
Posted by: kimmy, southampton on 6:08pm Tue 25 Mar 08
Glad i moved to Southampton after growing up in Eastleigh and even moving back for 6 years, at least i dont have to vote for the plebs that have destroyed a beautiful "grown up" tree.
Glad i moved to Southampton after growing up in Eastleigh and even moving back for 6 years, at least i dont have to vote for the plebs that have destroyed a beautiful "grown up" tree.
Posted by: trees make beautiful furniture, wilts on 7:16pm Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]The Council must be made to pay[/bold] wrote:
I was not there today simply because our locally elected Council chose to use OUR MONEY, at probably \"DOUBLE TIME\" to employ a team of \"Tree Surgeons\" (That\'s a contradiction in terms in this case, surgeons are supposed to save lives not end them)PLUS A SECURITY FIRM (No doubt to protect the faceless people who authorized this murderous act) to hack down a tree when they knew that some people would be away enjoying the Easter Break. I am also concerned that this whole issue now goes further than saving a tree. It exposes fundamental flaws in a process that sets in place a system to LEGALLY register a protest, but then TOTALLY IGNORS that system. Our locally elected council officials should be held in contempt of court for showing total disregard to a legal process. RIP Sid Gone but NEVER EVER forgotten. [/quote] don't knock the security guys,they are just
doing there job.trying to provide for their families.most of them do a difficult job with professionalism and integrity.
The Council must be made to pay wrote:
I was not there today simply because our locally elected Council chose to use OUR MONEY, at probably \"DOUBLE TIME\" to employ a team of \"Tree Surgeons\" (That\'s a contradiction in terms in this case, surgeons are supposed to save lives not end them)PLUS A SECURITY FIRM (No doubt to protect the faceless people who authorized this murderous act) to hack down a tree when they knew that some people would be away enjoying the Easter Break. I am also concerned that this whole issue now goes further than saving a tree. It exposes fundamental flaws in a process that sets in place a system to LEGALLY register a protest, but then TOTALLY IGNORS that system. Our locally elected council officials should be held in contempt of court for showing total disregard to a legal process. RIP Sid Gone but NEVER EVER forgotten.
don't knock the security guys,they are just
doing there job.trying to provide for their families.most of them do a difficult job with professionalism and integrity.
Posted by: Tony, Eastleigh on 7:45pm Tue 25 Mar 08
Thats exactly what Matthew has been doing "acting with professionalism & Integrity". Just a pity that our duly elected (not for much longer I hope) council didnt play by the same rules. Having said that they are polictians so what would one expect !!!!!![bold]bold[/bold]
Thats exactly what Matthew has been doing "acting with professionalism & Integrity". Just a pity that our duly elected (not for much longer I hope) council didnt play by the same rules. Having said that they are polictians so what would one expect !!!!!!
Posted by: Concerned, Hampshire on 7:49pm Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]kimmy[/bold] wrote:
Glad i moved to Southampton after growing up in Eastleigh and even moving back for 6 years, at least i dont have to vote for the plebs that have destroyed a beautiful "grown up" tree.[/quote] I hope that the dog handlers did get double time, some people think that everyone gets 'double time', not so! Yet again you find there are people who cannot see the wood for the trees (although you cannot see Sid in Eastleigh now!)
kimmy wrote:
Glad i moved to Southampton after growing up in Eastleigh and even moving back for 6 years, at least i dont have to vote for the plebs that have destroyed a beautiful "grown up" tree.
I hope that the dog handlers did get double time, some people think that everyone gets 'double time', not so! Yet again you find there are people who cannot see the wood for the trees (although you cannot see Sid in Eastleigh now!)
Posted by: trees make beautiful furniture, wilts on 7:57pm Tue 25 Mar 08
i hope the wood from sid is not wasted.thanks for your comment,kimmy.at least someone has sense
i hope the wood from sid is not wasted.thanks for your comment,kimmy.at least someone has sense
Posted by: andrew, Eastleigh on 9:35pm Tue 25 Mar 08
This is a disgrace. For the council to flout the law when a judicial review had been requested shows the complete lack of respect some of our councilllors and council workers have for the law.
This is a disgrace. For the council to flout the law when a judicial review had been requested shows the complete lack of respect some of our councilllors and council workers have for the law.
Posted by: trees make beautiful furniture, wilts on 9:41pm Tue 25 Mar 08
[quote][bold]andrew[/bold] wrote:
This is a disgrace. For the council to flout the law when a judicial review had been requested shows the complete lack of respect some of our councilllors and council workers have for the law.[/quote] it was only a tree ,the council workers were only doing ther jobs.
andrew wrote:
This is a disgrace. For the council to flout the law when a judicial review had been requested shows the complete lack of respect some of our councilllors and council workers have for the law.
it was only a tree ,the council workers were only doing ther jobs.
Posted by: Bik, Southampton on 2:37pm Wed 26 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Louise Harris[/bold] wrote:
I go to The Point a lot and it will be great to have more space. The Rec has lots of other trees and anyway the council say they will plant two more now. Think about us young people who use The Point![/quote] Louise - This guy *does* think about young people... that's why he wanted this tree to be preserved. Without trees, our climate is headed for disaster. I feel sorry for the sort of world we are leaving for our children. By the way - replanting doesn't help.
Louise Harris wrote:
I go to The Point a lot and it will be great to have more space. The Rec has lots of other trees and anyway the council say they will plant two more now. Think about us young people who use The Point!
Louise - This guy *does* think about young people... that's why he wanted this tree to be preserved. Without trees, our climate is headed for disaster. I feel sorry for the sort of world we are leaving for our children. By the way - replanting doesn't help.
Posted by: Bik, Southampton on 2:43pm Wed 26 Mar 08
[quote][bold]paul b[/bold] wrote:
Now what will that little jumped up squeaker in the video do with his time?
Get a job, naaaaaa[/quote] "Get a job?" - do people really still say this about people who protest?! How old. This guy *has* a job. Get your facts right. He doesn't spend his spare time on his backside watching telly - he's out standing up for something he believes in passionately. when's the last time you did that, Paul?
paul b wrote:
Now what will that little jumped up squeaker in the video do with his time?
Get a job, naaaaaa
"Get a job?" - do people really still say this about people who protest?! How old. This guy *has* a job. Get your facts right. He doesn't spend his spare time on his backside watching telly - he's out standing up for something he believes in passionately. when's the last time you did that, Paul?
Posted by: Bik on 2:47pm Wed 26 Mar 08
[quote][bold]cford red[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]sailor sam[/bold] wrote:
How nice to know that the people elected to represent the residents of Eastleigh, do not listen to what they want, once they are elected! [/quote] since when do politicians listen to the electorate, all they are interested in is scoring political points against the other parties,and looking after their own financial interests applies across the whole spectrum[/quote] Bare in mind, this is the same council that are also building on peoples allotments. They are not accountable to anyone, it seems. I don't believe this extension is a response to a desperate need. Always ask "what is the motivation for this?" The answer is usually the same when it comes to local government.. "Money".
cford red wrote:
sailor sam wrote:
How nice to know that the people elected to represent the residents of Eastleigh, do not listen to what they want, once they are elected!
since when do politicians listen to the electorate, all they are interested in is scoring political points against the other parties,and looking after their own financial interests applies across the whole spectrum
Bare in mind, this is the same council that are also building on peoples allotments. They are not accountable to anyone, it seems. I don't believe this extension is a response to a desperate need. Always ask "what is the motivation for this?" The answer is usually the same when it comes to local government.. "Money".
Posted by: Bik, Southampton on 2:52pm Wed 26 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Christoff[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]concerned[/bold] wrote:
adding to the carbon footprint doubly by removing a tree that uses up carbon dioxide and produces oxygen. Then to errect a building that will greatly increase the carbon footprint . APPALING (correction of previous post)[/quote] carbon footprint blah blah blah. It doesn't even really mean anything! Stop bandying around this pathetic media buzz word.[/quote] "Carbon footprint" - a media buzz word?? I find people's continued denial of the most serious threat to civilisation we face absolutely astounding. Please educate yourself by reading some scientific journals. You will find that 95% of the climate scientist community have gone beyond debating *whether* it's happening - they are now trying to figure out *how bad it's going to be*. Please try to keep up.
Christoff wrote:
concerned wrote:
adding to the carbon footprint doubly by removing a tree that uses up carbon dioxide and produces oxygen. Then to errect a building that will greatly increase the carbon footprint . APPALING (correction of previous post)
carbon footprint blah blah blah. It doesn't even really mean anything! Stop bandying around this pathetic media buzz word.
"Carbon footprint" - a media buzz word?? I find people's continued denial of the most serious threat to civilisation we face absolutely astounding. Please educate yourself by reading some scientific journals. You will find that 95% of the climate scientist community have gone beyond debating *whether* it's happening - they are now trying to figure out *how bad it's going to be*. Please try to keep up.
Posted by: Bik, Southampton on 2:56pm Wed 26 Mar 08
[quote][bold]the Truth Master[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]WATCHER[/bold] wrote:
I watched the cutting down this morning, it cost us a fortune, 8 tree surgeons, 4 Security Guards and 2 Police Officers and all on a double time bank holiday...they are having a laugh![/quote] were the 2 Police Officers from the SPECIAL BRANCH???[/quote] Hehe :-)
the Truth Master wrote:
WATCHER wrote:
I watched the cutting down this morning, it cost us a fortune, 8 tree surgeons, 4 Security Guards and 2 Police Officers and all on a double time bank holiday...they are having a laugh!
were the 2 Police Officers from the SPECIAL BRANCH???
Hehe :-)
Posted by: Bik, Southampton on 3:04pm Wed 26 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Berty[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]chopper h[/bold] wrote:
i meet sid he was great to talk to i spent alot of time with him before he lost his appeal. [/quote] I'm glad he had such a good bloke to see him through his final hours rather than some swampy type character stuck in his branches.[/quote] I wonder how you would feel if someone was about to bulldoze your house and a "swampy type character" came to your rescue. Bet you wouldn't be sending them on their way. I can't understand the hatred that protestors bring out in people. I think it is probably a guilt reaction from knowing they, themselves, haven't got the guts to stand up for something they believe in. Or maybe they don't believe in anything that passionately? Too much time sitting in front of the telly watching East Enders, I think.
Berty wrote:
chopper h wrote:
i meet sid he was great to talk to i spent alot of time with him before he lost his appeal.
I'm glad he had such a good bloke to see him through his final hours rather than some swampy type character stuck in his branches.
I wonder how you would feel if someone was about to bulldoze your house and a "swampy type character" came to your rescue. Bet you wouldn't be sending them on their way. I can't understand the hatred that protestors bring out in people. I think it is probably a guilt reaction from knowing they, themselves, haven't got the guts to stand up for something they believe in. Or maybe they don't believe in anything that passionately? Too much time sitting in front of the telly watching East Enders, I think.
Posted by: Bik, Southampton on 3:12pm Wed 26 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Get the Point????????[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Winchester MILF[/bold] wrote:
I think most of the people understood exactly what Matthew was doing, it is a shame to read the horrid comments about him as I do know him. He is a great guy who cares deeply for Eastleigh. He is not a tree hugger, although in fairness Matthew, time to get out and do some shopping now and invest in a new razor and a better hat. What he has achieved by highlighting this issue will have a lasting effect on many of us in Hampshire. For those who want to criticise that’s fine, but have a valid point and ask yourself, what have you done for your community. Well done Matthew. Now take a well deserved rest. [/quote] I've done quite a lot for my community actually (including protecting local trees and having new trees planted) and all without resorting to underhand methods such as those used by this man, If this gentleman had been interested in saving the tree without any other adgenda, I would applaud him, it became more and more clear however that his gripe was not with the chopping down of the tree and more to do with his own self promotion, I suggest this man gets a job to fill his obviously abundant free time.[/quote] To accuse this guy of 'self promotion' is a complete disgrace. Is that what you think all the people that stand up and fight passionately for a thing they believe in are doing? They are on some sort of ego trip? Ghandi, Mother Teresa, The Dali Lama? I'm not suggesting Matthew is quite in their league.. but in a way he is. He's the exception. This comments board explains why those in power can get away with what they do - because the rest of us are too busy slagging each other off like a bunch of imbeciles to notice what they're up to.
Get the Point???????? wrote:
Winchester MILF wrote:
I think most of the people understood exactly what Matthew was doing, it is a shame to read the horrid comments about him as I do know him. He is a great guy who cares deeply for Eastleigh. He is not a tree hugger, although in fairness Matthew, time to get out and do some shopping now and invest in a new razor and a better hat. What he has achieved by highlighting this issue will have a lasting effect on many of us in Hampshire. For those who want to criticise that’s fine, but have a valid point and ask yourself, what have you done for your community. Well done Matthew. Now take a well deserved rest.
I've done quite a lot for my community actually (including protecting local trees and having new trees planted) and all without resorting to underhand methods such as those used by this man, If this gentleman had been interested in saving the tree without any other adgenda, I would applaud him, it became more and more clear however that his gripe was not with the chopping down of the tree and more to do with his own self promotion, I suggest this man gets a job to fill his obviously abundant free time.
To accuse this guy of 'self promotion' is a complete disgrace. Is that what you think all the people that stand up and fight passionately for a thing they believe in are doing? They are on some sort of ego trip? Ghandi, Mother Teresa, The Dali Lama? I'm not suggesting Matthew is quite in their league.. but in a way he is. He's the exception. This comments board explains why those in power can get away with what they do - because the rest of us are too busy slagging each other off like a bunch of imbeciles to notice what they're up to.
Posted by: Bik, Southampton on 3:18pm Wed 26 Mar 08
[quote][bold]trees make beautiful furniture[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]The Council must be made to pay[/bold] wrote:
I was not there today simply because our locally elected Council chose to use OUR MONEY, at probably \\\"DOUBLE TIME\\\" to employ a team of \\\"Tree Surgeons\\\" (That\\\'s a contradiction in terms in this case, surgeons are supposed to save lives not end them)PLUS A SECURITY FIRM (No doubt to protect the faceless people who authorized this murderous act) to hack down a tree when they knew that some people would be away enjoying the Easter Break. I am also concerned that this whole issue now goes further than saving a tree. It exposes fundamental flaws in a process that sets in place a system to LEGALLY register a protest, but then TOTALLY IGNORS that system. Our locally elected council officials should be held in contempt of court for showing total disregard to a legal process. RIP Sid Gone but NEVER EVER forgotten. [/quote] don\'t knock the security guys,they are just
doing there job.trying to provide for their families.most of them do a difficult job with professionalism and integrity.[/quote] "Don't knock the security guys,they are just
doing there job"? When did we last hear that? The Nurnberg trials, wasn't it?
trees make beautiful furniture wrote:
The Council must be made to pay wrote:
I was not there today simply because our locally elected Council chose to use OUR MONEY, at probably \\\"DOUBLE TIME\\\" to employ a team of \\\"Tree Surgeons\\\" (That's a contradiction in terms in this case, surgeons are supposed to save lives not end them)PLUS A SECURITY FIRM (No doubt to protect the faceless people who authorized this murderous act) to hack down a tree when they knew that some people would be away enjoying the Easter Break. I am also concerned that this whole issue now goes further than saving a tree. It exposes fundamental flaws in a process that sets in place a system to LEGALLY register a protest, but then TOTALLY IGNORS that system. Our locally elected council officials should be held in contempt of court for showing total disregard to a legal process. RIP Sid Gone but NEVER EVER forgotten.
don\'t knock the security guys,they are just
doing there job.trying to provide for their families.most of them do a difficult job with professionalism and integrity.
"Don't knock the security guys,they are just
doing there job"? When did we last hear that? The Nurnberg trials, wasn't it?
Posted by: Bik, Southampton on 3:23pm Wed 26 Mar 08
[quote][bold]trees make beautiful furniture[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]andrew[/bold] wrote:
This is a disgrace. For the council to flout the law when a judicial review had been requested shows the complete lack of respect some of our councilllors and council workers have for the law.[/quote] it was only a tree ,the council workers were only doing ther jobs.[/quote] "it was only a tree.." - A tree that was planted on common land for the people in a time of celebration. A tree that is a living organism in it's own right and stood for over 70 years. How many trees matter? One? One hundred? A thousand? A thousand acres? The rain forests (without which we are *all* screwed) are dissapearing over the same reasoning.
"the council workers were only doing ther jobs."
So were the train drivers on the way to Auschwitz.
trees make beautiful furniture wrote:
andrew wrote:
This is a disgrace. For the council to flout the law when a judicial review had been requested shows the complete lack of respect some of our councilllors and council workers have for the law.
it was only a tree ,the council workers were only doing ther jobs.
"it was only a tree.." - A tree that was planted on common land for the people in a time of celebration. A tree that is a living organism in it's own right and stood for over 70 years. How many trees matter? One? One hundred? A thousand? A thousand acres? The rain forests (without which we are *all* screwed) are dissapearing over the same reasoning.
"the council workers were only doing ther jobs."
So were the train drivers on the way to Auschwitz.
Posted by: Tony, Eastleigh on 6:53pm Wed 26 Mar 08
I was brought up to believe "that if you having nothing good to say about someone, say nothing". I am more than qualified to talk about Matthew because I know him. He is passionate about Eastleigh the environment and is very supportive of many local charities so please leave the guy alone. Have your say by all means about Sid but in fairness if you dont know Matthew keep your prejudices to yourselves.
I was brought up to believe "that if you having nothing good to say about someone, say nothing". I am more than qualified to talk about Matthew because I know him. He is passionate about Eastleigh the environment and is very supportive of many local charities so please leave the guy alone. Have your say by all means about Sid but in fairness if you dont know Matthew keep your prejudices to yourselves.
Posted by: trees make beautiful furniture, wilts on 7:51pm Wed 26 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Bik[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]trees make beautiful furniture[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]andrew[/bold] wrote: This is a disgrace. For the council to flout the law when a judicial review had been requested shows the complete lack of respect some of our councilllors and council workers have for the law.[/quote] it was only a tree ,the council workers were only doing ther jobs.[/quote] \"it was only a tree..\" - A tree that was planted on common land for the people in a time of celebration. A tree that is a living organism in it\'s own right and stood for over 70 years. How many trees matter? One? One hundred? A thousand? A thousand acres? The rain forests (without which we are *all* screwed) are dissapearing over the same reasoning. \"the council workers were only doing ther jobs.\" So were the train drivers on the way to Auschwitz.[/quote] not much of a comparison,human being,tree, iknow which one i would fight to save ,how much furniture in your house is made of wood????
Bik wrote:
trees make beautiful furniture wrote: andrew wrote: This is a disgrace. For the council to flout the law when a judicial review had been requested shows the complete lack of respect some of our councilllors and council workers have for the law.
it was only a tree ,the council workers were only doing ther jobs.
\"it was only a tree..\" - A tree that was planted on common land for the people in a time of celebration. A tree that is a living organism in it\'s own right and stood for over 70 years. How many trees matter? One? One hundred? A thousand? A thousand acres? The rain forests (without which we are *all* screwed) are dissapearing over the same reasoning. \"the council workers were only doing ther jobs.\" So were the train drivers on the way to Auschwitz.
not much of a comparison,human being,tree, iknow which one i would fight to save ,how much furniture in your house is made of wood????
Posted by: trees make beautiful furniture, wilts on 7:57pm Wed 26 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Bik[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]trees make beautiful furniture[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]The Council must be made to pay[/bold] wrote: I was not there today simply because our locally elected Council chose to use OUR MONEY, at probably \\\\\\\"DOUBLE TIME\\\\\\\" to employ a team of \\\\\\\"Tree Surgeons\\\\\\\" (That\\\\\\\'s a contradiction in terms in this case, surgeons are supposed to save lives not end them)PLUS A SECURITY FIRM (No doubt to protect the faceless people who authorized this murderous act) to hack down a tree when they knew that some people would be away enjoying the Easter Break. I am also concerned that this whole issue now goes further than saving a tree. It exposes fundamental flaws in a process that sets in place a system to LEGALLY register a protest, but then TOTALLY IGNORS that system. Our locally elected council officials should be held in contempt of court for showing total disregard to a legal process. RIP Sid Gone but NEVER EVER forgotten. [/quote] don\\\'t knock the security guys,they are just doing there job.trying to provide for their families.most of them do a difficult job with professionalism and integrity.[/quote] \"Don\'t knock the security guys,they are just doing there job\"? When did we last hear that? The Nurnberg trials, wasn\'t it?[/quote] the security guys WERE DOING there job, they were not gassing people,they were protecting idiots from themselves.no comparison.
Bik wrote:
trees make beautiful furniture wrote: The Council must be made to pay wrote: I was not there today simply because our locally elected Council chose to use OUR MONEY, at probably \\\\\\\"DOUBLE TIME\\\\\\\" to employ a team of \\\\\\\"Tree Surgeons\\\\\\\" (That\\\\'s a contradiction in terms in this case, surgeons are supposed to save lives not end them)PLUS A SECURITY FIRM (No doubt to protect the faceless people who authorized this murderous act) to hack down a tree when they knew that some people would be away enjoying the Easter Break. I am also concerned that this whole issue now goes further than saving a tree. It exposes fundamental flaws in a process that sets in place a system to LEGALLY register a protest, but then TOTALLY IGNORS that system. Our locally elected council officials should be held in contempt of court for showing total disregard to a legal process. RIP Sid Gone but NEVER EVER forgotten.
don't knock the security guys,they are just doing there job.trying to provide for their families.most of them do a difficult job with professionalism and integrity.
\"Don\'t knock the security guys,they are just doing there job\"? When did we last hear that? The Nurnberg trials, wasn\'t it?
the security guys WERE DOING there job, they were not gassing people,they were protecting idiots from themselves.no comparison.
Posted by: agnieszka, southampton on 9:50pm Wed 26 Mar 08
Thankyou for defending the tree Matt!
It's a shame the council couldn't have made plans to work around the tree, i think its time people stop thinking of trees as mere obstructions and realising their real importance especially perfectly healthy, older ones.
The world would be a greener place with more Matt's!
Thankyou for defending the tree Matt!
It's a shame the council couldn't have made plans to work around the tree, i think its time people stop thinking of trees as mere obstructions and realising their real importance especially perfectly healthy, older ones.
The world would be a greener place with more Matt's!
Posted by: mika lover, wilts on 10:06pm Wed 26 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Bik[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Berty[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]chopper h[/bold] wrote: i meet sid he was great to talk to i spent alot of time with him before he lost his appeal. [/quote] I\'m glad he had such a good bloke to see him through his final hours rather than some swampy type character stuck in his branches.[/quote] I wonder how you would feel if someone was about to bulldoze your house and a \"swampy type character\" came to your rescue. Bet you wouldn\'t be sending them on their way. I can\'t understand the hatred that protestors bring out in people. I think it is probably a guilt reaction from knowing they, themselves, haven\'t got the guts to stand up for something they believe in. Or maybe they don\'t believe in anything that passionately? Too much time sitting in front of the telly watching East Enders, I think.[/quote] i wish someone would bulldoze my house,it needs it
Bik wrote:
Berty wrote: chopper h wrote: i meet sid he was great to talk to i spent alot of time with him before he lost his appeal.
I\'m glad he had such a good bloke to see him through his final hours rather than some swampy type character stuck in his branches.
I wonder how you would feel if someone was about to bulldoze your house and a \"swampy type character\" came to your rescue. Bet you wouldn\'t be sending them on their way. I can\'t understand the hatred that protestors bring out in people. I think it is probably a guilt reaction from knowing they, themselves, haven\'t got the guts to stand up for something they believe in. Or maybe they don\'t believe in anything that passionately? Too much time sitting in front of the telly watching East Enders, I think.
i wish someone would bulldoze my house,it needs it
Posted by: Matthew Myatt, Eastleigh on 1:11am Thu 27 Mar 08
I have watched the posts on this issue for a couple of days, and have not commented on them, even the ones that have attacked me on a personal level, which is fine, it is after all because of people protesting that these people have the right to attack me. However, its water of a ducks back. The real issue here is a serious one, and I would like to thank all the people who have posted comments that have added to the debate and avoided the need to attack me for exercising my legal right to protest to save the open spaces and green land for the future of others in Eastleigh who are to young to have a voice, or unable to stand out in the cold and fight for our rights, my own children included. I will end with one final fact. Sid and the recreation ground was free to use by 100% of the population. The new dance studio will be used by 7% of the Eastleigh population that once had access to this land and Sid. (EBC own figures, Document’s available to view and check at council offices.) The council have taken free open public space and turned it into a loss making, council tax subsidised business at a cost to the remaining 93% of the people who have lost this land of £320,000.00 a year. (Again council own figures, available to view at council offices.) If I am a tree hugger for trying to stand up for the majority of the people’s rights, then this is a hat I wear with pride..
I have watched the posts on this issue for a couple of days, and have not commented on them, even the ones that have attacked me on a personal level, which is fine, it is after all because of people protesting that these people have the right to attack me. However, its water of a ducks back. The real issue here is a serious one, and I would like to thank all the people who have posted comments that have added to the debate and avoided the need to attack me for exercising my legal right to protest to save the open spaces and green land for the future of others in Eastleigh who are to young to have a voice, or unable to stand out in the cold and fight for our rights, my own children included. I will end with one final fact. Sid and the recreation ground was free to use by 100% of the population. The new dance studio will be used by 7% of the Eastleigh population that once had access to this land and Sid. (EBC own figures, Document’s available to view and check at council offices.) The council have taken free open public space and turned it into a loss making, council tax subsidised business at a cost to the remaining 93% of the people who have lost this land of £320,000.00 a year. (Again council own figures, available to view at council offices.) If I am a tree hugger for trying to stand up for the majority of the people’s rights, then this is a hat I wear with pride..
Posted by: Tony, eastleigh on 9:30am Thu 27 Mar 08
Well said Matthew, Keep wearing "The Hat"
Well said Matthew, Keep wearing "The Hat"
Posted by: Chipper, Eastleigh on 1:56pm Thu 27 Mar 08
I didn't ask you to protest on my behalf Matthew, nor did I vote for you.
I've never seen such a load of fuss over nothing. It's one tree - one! Not a Brazilian rainforest. The rest of the open space is still free for the population to use isn't it? Sometimes, Matthew, things have to give way to allow for new developments.
EBC are voted in by the electorate to act on behalf of the majority. EBC, like the government, like any other elected body, can't please all of the people all of the time. I don't climb a tree or protest outside council offices when they raise my council tax, or they introduce nbew parking charges. I do what other, moderate, democratic people do, and change my vote.
Your actions have cost EBC tax-payers money in requiring EBC to employ security guards etc.
How and when will you refund me Matthew? It's a two-way street.
I didn't ask you to protest on my behalf Matthew, nor did I vote for you.
I've never seen such a load of fuss over nothing. It's one tree - one! Not a Brazilian rainforest. The rest of the open space is still free for the population to use isn't it? Sometimes, Matthew, things have to give way to allow for new developments.
EBC are voted in by the electorate to act on behalf of the majority. EBC, like the government, like any other elected body, can't please all of the people all of the time. I don't climb a tree or protest outside council offices when they raise my council tax, or they introduce nbew parking charges. I do what other, moderate, democratic people do, and change my vote.
Your actions have cost EBC tax-payers money in requiring EBC to employ security guards etc.
How and when will you refund me Matthew? It's a two-way street.
Posted by: Chipper, Eastleigh on 2:01pm Thu 27 Mar 08
Dave S - get a grip. "executioners", "death squad"? You're not a journo for the Echo are you? No wonder people are turned off to the idea of protecting a tree with sensationlist posts and headlines like this. I expect EBC could do without your vote.
Dave S - get a grip. "executioners", "death squad"? You're not a journo for the Echo are you? No wonder people are turned off to the idea of protecting a tree with sensationlist posts and headlines like this. I expect EBC could do without your vote.
Posted by: trees make beautiful furniture, real world on 7:31pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Chipper[/bold] wrote:
I didn\'t ask you to protest on my behalf Matthew, nor did I vote for you. I\'ve never seen such a load of fuss over nothing. It\'s one tree - one! Not a Brazilian rainforest. The rest of the open space is still free for the population to use isn\'t it? Sometimes, Matthew, things have to give way to allow for new developments. EBC are voted in by the electorate to act on behalf of the majority. EBC, like the government, like any other elected body, can\'t please all of the people all of the time. I don\'t climb a tree or protest outside council offices when they raise my council tax, or they introduce nbew parking charges. I do what other, moderate, democratic people do, and change my vote. Your actions have cost EBC tax-payers money in requiring EBC to employ security guards etc. How and when will you refund me Matthew? It\'s a two-way street.[/quote] at last, a human being who lives in the real world.nice commnts,good point well presented.thanks from the silent majority.
Chipper wrote:
I didn\'t ask you to protest on my behalf Matthew, nor did I vote for you. I\'ve never seen such a load of fuss over nothing. It\'s one tree - one! Not a Brazilian rainforest. The rest of the open space is still free for the population to use isn\'t it? Sometimes, Matthew, things have to give way to allow for new developments. EBC are voted in by the electorate to act on behalf of the majority. EBC, like the government, like any other elected body, can\'t please all of the people all of the time. I don\'t climb a tree or protest outside council offices when they raise my council tax, or they introduce nbew parking charges. I do what other, moderate, democratic people do, and change my vote. Your actions have cost EBC tax-payers money in requiring EBC to employ security guards etc. How and when will you refund me Matthew? It\'s a two-way street.
at last, a human being who lives in the real world.nice commnts,good point well presented.thanks from the silent majority.
Posted by: Real People, Eastleigh on 11:25pm Thu 27 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Chipper[/bold] wrote:
I didn\'t ask you to protest on my behalf Matthew, nor did I vote for you. I\'ve never seen such a load of fuss over nothing. It\'s one tree - one! Not a Brazilian rainforest. The rest of the open space is still free for the population to use isn\'t it? Sometimes, Matthew, things have to give way to allow for new developments. EBC are voted in by the electorate to act on behalf of the majority. EBC, like the government, like any other elected body, can\'t please all of the people all of the time. I don\'t climb a tree or protest outside council offices when they raise my council tax, or they introduce nbew parking charges. I do what other, moderate, democratic people do, and change my vote
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