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SAINTS' directors are bracing themselves to hear from former chairman Rupert Lowe on Monday.
Lowe is poised to call an EGM that day in a bid to evict the current board and re-install himself and Michael Wilde in power.
The Daily Echo recently revealed that Wilde was contemplating a sensational U-turn and potentially siding with the man his regime ousted in June 2006.
Between them, Lowe and Wilde are said to speak for 46 per cent of the total Southampton Leisure Holdings PLC shares.
Lowe first contacted acting PLC board chairman Keith Wiseman a fortnight ago via a short phone call.
That has been followed up by an exchange of letters but Saints are still waiting for Lowe to fully explain his plans should he make a dramatic return to St Mary's.
As a result, they were unable to debate Lowe's possible intentions too much when the PLC board held their monthly get-together two days ago.
With directors knowing that 20 per cent of the shareholders probably wouldn't bother to vote, Lowe and Wilde - providing they did pair up together - would easily win any EGM.
6:00am Saturday 29th March 2008
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CommentPosted by: Andy H., SO15 on 7:53am Sat 29 Mar 08
See the panto has started early at SMS the only thing these two are interested in are their shares being worth nothing!why cant lowe just dissappear like other ex chairmain.As a season ticket holder for many years if lowe has anything to do with the club in the future i shall not be attending SMS anymore,might be a case of cutting of my nose to spite my face but thats the way i feel,having said that various people i have spoken to at SMS feel the same,but i shall still support the club at away games.To Mr lowe please just go away for good your damaging the club beyond recognition.
See the panto has started early at SMS the only thing these two are interested in are their shares being worth nothing!why cant lowe just dissappear like other ex chairmain.As a season ticket holder for many years if lowe has anything to do with the club in the future i shall not be attending SMS anymore,might be a case of cutting of my nose to spite my face but thats the way i feel,having said that various people i have spoken to at SMS feel the same,but i shall still support the club at away games.To Mr lowe please just go away for good your damaging the club beyond recognition.
Posted by: mark on 8:03am Sat 29 Mar 08
As much as i dislike Lowe could this be spin by the club so that if we go down we vent our frustration at that on Lowe trying to meddle at such a delicate point in the season. Surely if Lowe and Wilde were genuine they would wait until end of season
As much as i dislike Lowe could this be spin by the club so that if we go down we vent our frustration at that on Lowe trying to meddle at such a delicate point in the season. Surely if Lowe and Wilde were genuine they would wait until end of season
Posted by: les gray on 8:23am Sat 29 Mar 08
does anybody know where this pair of jokers live? I'd like to visit them and give them a parting present of pile of manure and a collection of seaside picture postcards of the donkeys we have ended up using for the past 2 years and also an autographed copy of George Burley's autobiography titled 'How to manage donkeys and other low intelligent creatures'
Lowe - do us all a favour and die - in great pain
does anybody know where this pair of jokers live? I'd like to visit them and give them a parting present of pile of manure and a collection of seaside picture postcards of the donkeys we have ended up using for the past 2 years and also an autographed copy of George Burley's autobiography titled 'How to manage donkeys and other low intelligent creatures'
Lowe - do us all a favour and die - in great pain
Posted by: Jules on 8:27am Sat 29 Mar 08
The whole "Lowe" debate is rather amusing! lets take emotion out of it for a moment and look at the facts. If Lowe didn't care about Saints (especially after the way the fans and other Board members ousted him)then surely he would have cashed his shares in then and there and gone off to do another business venture. He didn't so I suspect that he does genuinely care about our plight. If so then lets see what he can bring back to the table, lets face it this current shower nor the previous lot are not up to much either. Just proclaiming "I'm a real saints fan" doesn't cut the mustard in the "can they really do the job" stakes. Instead of all moaning and losing focus the saints fans should concentrate on the next 6 games. Let the Board room concern wait until the summer because it won't make one ounce of difference for the next 6 games. Money or no money we will have the same players for the next 6 games. Cut the moaning, support the boys in the shirts, and then look to the future. If you don't then you are only damaging what "Spirit of Southampton" there is left in this season.
The whole "Lowe" debate is rather amusing! lets take emotion out of it for a moment and look at the facts. If Lowe didn't care about Saints (especially after the way the fans and other Board members ousted him)then surely he would have cashed his shares in then and there and gone off to do another business venture. He didn't so I suspect that he does genuinely care about our plight. If so then lets see what he can bring back to the table, lets face it this current shower nor the previous lot are not up to much either. Just proclaiming "I'm a real saints fan" doesn't cut the mustard in the "can they really do the job" stakes. Instead of all moaning and losing focus the saints fans should concentrate on the next 6 games. Let the Board room concern wait until the summer because it won't make one ounce of difference for the next 6 games. Money or no money we will have the same players for the next 6 games. Cut the moaning, support the boys in the shirts, and then look to the future. If you don't then you are only damaging what "Spirit of Southampton" there is left in this season.
Posted by: Richard Knasel, Upham on 8:32am Sat 29 Mar 08
I met Rupert Lowe away at the New Den for the Millwall match whilst he was still Chairman. Speaking to him he told my wife and I that his plans at the time for the Saints, were to build it up through the Academy.
Unless a Club has a Russian Billionnaire, it needs to have a solid sustainable plan, inorder to re-establish the Club in the Championship and to stay up in the Premiership.
From the outside as fan, I cannot see that the present Board have put any of their own money into the Club? Have they just bought shares and are they not injecting any new money? What right have they to say that the Lowe regime did nothing, when they built St Mary's, built up the Academy to produce great young players and kept us up against the odds whilst we were still at the Dell. The Crouch team seem to have put us into our present problems, perhaps its time for them to step down.
I met Rupert Lowe away at the New Den for the Millwall match whilst he was still Chairman. Speaking to him he told my wife and I that his plans at the time for the Saints, were to build it up through the Academy.
Unless a Club has a Russian Billionnaire, it needs to have a solid sustainable plan, inorder to re-establish the Club in the Championship and to stay up in the Premiership.
From the outside as fan, I cannot see that the present Board have put any of their own money into the Club? Have they just bought shares and are they not injecting any new money? What right have they to say that the Lowe regime did nothing, when they built St Mary's, built up the Academy to produce great young players and kept us up against the odds whilst we were still at the Dell. The Crouch team seem to have put us into our present problems, perhaps its time for them to step down.
Posted by: Fan First, Shareholder second, New Forest on 9:41am Sat 29 Mar 08
I wasn't happy when Lowe's regime was forced out simply because there was no substance to Wilde's proposals. The old old story of being careful of what you wish for. Wilde did not have the presence or contacts to attract serious investment nor the funds to do so himself. Nor has Crouch.
Crouch lost it for me with his stupid public utterance that he expected to see 'investment' coming in within the next six to nine months. That was defeatist and sent out messages to investors, markets and fans which should never have been sent,
Lowe will not go away, there is pride as much as anything at stake, so unless there is massive change he will continue to be a stumbling block.
Reluctantly I can see that SLH/SFC do need the Lowe camp on side, it's a well known strategy to keep your friends close and your enemies closer, as should the current situation continue Saints will slide further into debt and football mediocrity.
We should at least take comfort in the fact that Portsmouth were in a very much worse position financially and on the field for many years, only six years ago they were in the position Saints are now but it was turned around. A combination of pig headed management (Mandaric) and financial injection turned the club around. They may have some challenges to meet later on this season financially but they're in a **** sight better position now to deal with it than they were in 2002.
Much as I hate to say it, the Lowe/Wilde consortium may be the White Knight we've been praying for. Another benefit could be that finally we will stop looking back 32 years and Saint Lawrie will disappear into a well deserved retirement. He is adding absolutely no value to the situation.
I wasn't happy when Lowe's regime was forced out simply because there was no substance to Wilde's proposals. The old old story of being careful of what you wish for. Wilde did not have the presence or contacts to attract serious investment nor the funds to do so himself. Nor has Crouch.
Crouch lost it for me with his stupid public utterance that he expected to see 'investment' coming in within the next six to nine months. That was defeatist and sent out messages to investors, markets and fans which should never have been sent,
Lowe will not go away, there is pride as much as anything at stake, so unless there is massive change he will continue to be a stumbling block.
Reluctantly I can see that SLH/SFC do need the Lowe camp on side, it's a well known strategy to keep your friends close and your enemies closer, as should the current situation continue Saints will slide further into debt and football mediocrity.
We should at least take comfort in the fact that Portsmouth were in a very much worse position financially and on the field for many years, only six years ago they were in the position Saints are now but it was turned around. A combination of pig headed management (Mandaric) and financial injection turned the club around. They may have some challenges to meet later on this season financially but they're in a **** sight better position now to deal with it than they were in 2002.
Much as I hate to say it, the Lowe/Wilde consortium may be the White Knight we've been praying for. Another benefit could be that finally we will stop looking back 32 years and Saint Lawrie will disappear into a well deserved retirement. He is adding absolutely no value to the situation.
Posted by: Zambucco, Bitterne on 9:57am Sat 29 Mar 08
I long for the days when all we knew and cared about was the players and the manager. The current media trend to drag out all the boardroom business is just sensationalism.
I agree that Mr. Lowe must have a passion for Saints, otherwise as a competent businssman, he would have taken his money and invested in something less volatile than a football club, Like Premium bonds!!
Southampton FC is a decent club with a fantastic worldwide reputation. We can attract decent players, we just need them to have confidence. That's why the boardroom business should be kept behind closed doors!!
I long for the days when all we knew and cared about was the players and the manager. The current media trend to drag out all the boardroom business is just sensationalism.
I agree that Mr. Lowe must have a passion for Saints, otherwise as a competent businssman, he would have taken his money and invested in something less volatile than a football club, Like Premium bonds!!
Southampton FC is a decent club with a fantastic worldwide reputation. We can attract decent players, we just need them to have confidence. That's why the boardroom business should be kept behind closed doors!!
Posted by: Judas Saintsfan, Southampton on 10:00am Sat 29 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Fan First, Shareholder second[/bold] wrote:
I wasn't happy when Lowe's regime was forced out simply because there was no substance to Wilde's proposals. The old old story of being careful of what you wish for. Wilde did not have the presence or contacts to attract serious investment nor the funds to do so himself. Nor has Crouch. Crouch lost it for me with his stupid public utterance that he expected to see 'investment' coming in within the next six to nine months. That was defeatist and sent out messages to investors, markets and fans which should never have been sent, Lowe will not go away, there is pride as much as anything at stake, so unless there is massive change he will continue to be a stumbling block. Reluctantly I can see that SLH/SFC do need the Lowe camp on side, it's a well known strategy to keep your friends close and your enemies closer, as should the current situation continue Saints will slide further into debt and football mediocrity. We should at least take comfort in the fact that Portsmouth were in a very much worse position financially and on the field for many years, only six years ago they were in the position Saints are now but it was turned around. A combination of pig headed management (Mandaric) and financial injection turned the club around. They may have some challenges to meet later on this season financially but they're in a **** sight better position now to deal with it than they were in 2002. Much as I hate to say it, the Lowe/Wilde consortium may be the White Knight we've been praying for. Another benefit could be that finally we will stop looking back 32 years and Saint Lawrie will disappear into a well deserved retirement. He is adding absolutely no value to the situation.[/quote] It’s refreshing and comforting to read such a well considered contribution to the debate on this site. Expect virulent abuse very shortly.
Personally, I never wanted Rupert out, and I would welcome him back without reservation if it wasn’t for the fact that it will bring out the worst in a considerable number of fans, who are appear incapable of rational argument.
As for Rupert’s alleged contempt for the supporters, I would have to say that, having dealt with both Brian Truscott and Lawrie McMenemy, during his first stint as a director, Rupert was a massive improvement as regards communications.
But yes, come back Rupert: you are a bigger asset to Southampton and Southampton Football Club than any of your detractors.
Fan First, Shareholder second wrote:
I wasn't happy when Lowe's regime was forced out simply because there was no substance to Wilde's proposals. The old old story of being careful of what you wish for. Wilde did not have the presence or contacts to attract serious investment nor the funds to do so himself. Nor has Crouch. Crouch lost it for me with his stupid public utterance that he expected to see 'investment' coming in within the next six to nine months. That was defeatist and sent out messages to investors, markets and fans which should never have been sent, Lowe will not go away, there is pride as much as anything at stake, so unless there is massive change he will continue to be a stumbling block. Reluctantly I can see that SLH/SFC do need the Lowe camp on side, it's a well known strategy to keep your friends close and your enemies closer, as should the current situation continue Saints will slide further into debt and football mediocrity. We should at least take comfort in the fact that Portsmouth were in a very much worse position financially and on the field for many years, only six years ago they were in the position Saints are now but it was turned around. A combination of pig headed management (Mandaric) and financial injection turned the club around. They may have some challenges to meet later on this season financially but they're in a **** sight better position now to deal with it than they were in 2002. Much as I hate to say it, the Lowe/Wilde consortium may be the White Knight we've been praying for. Another benefit could be that finally we will stop looking back 32 years and Saint Lawrie will disappear into a well deserved retirement. He is adding absolutely no value to the situation.
It’s refreshing and comforting to read such a well considered contribution to the debate on this site. Expect virulent abuse very shortly.
Personally, I never wanted Rupert out, and I would welcome him back without reservation if it wasn’t for the fact that it will bring out the worst in a considerable number of fans, who are appear incapable of rational argument.
As for Rupert’s alleged contempt for the supporters, I would have to say that, having dealt with both Brian Truscott and Lawrie McMenemy, during his first stint as a director, Rupert was a massive improvement as regards communications.
But yes, come back Rupert: you are a bigger asset to Southampton and Southampton Football Club than any of your detractors.
Posted by: Egomaniac, Southampton on 10:52am Sat 29 Mar 08
At long last! Some well written and composed contributions on this site - apart from Mr Les Gray's contribution. Your final sentence, Mr Gray, is childish in the extreme and in very bad taste. Such a comment has no place on an intelligent debating forum.
At long last! Some well written and composed contributions on this site - apart from Mr Les Gray's contribution. Your final sentence, Mr Gray, is childish in the extreme and in very bad taste. Such a comment has no place on an intelligent debating forum.
Posted by: Andy P, Bitterne on 11:02am Sat 29 Mar 08
Using the media to increase the value of a share, to delibrately put of investors, is l would imaging a very serious criminal offence.
As the saying goes "If you cannot do the time,dont do the CRIME!
Some people will go to great extremes and will make mistakes when the red-mist descends.
This will be very interesting,just you wait and see.
Using the media to increase the value of a share, to delibrately put of investors, is l would imaging a very serious criminal offence.
As the saying goes "If you cannot do the time,dont do the CRIME!
Some people will go to great extremes and will make mistakes when the red-mist descends.
This will be very interesting,just you wait and see.
Posted by: John on 11:10am Sat 29 Mar 08
I find the idea that Lowe has a genuine interest in the club somewhat hard to swallow.
More plausible is that he (1) sees his future career as being at the head of the club and also of the FA or FL and (2)he has got through the half million pay off he received when ousted and needs to come back on his quarter million salary.
This man is totally besotted with himself and his position and believes he, not Ted Bates, is Mr Southampton.
Some of us have news for him.......
I find the idea that Lowe has a genuine interest in the club somewhat hard to swallow.
More plausible is that he (1) sees his future career as being at the head of the club and also of the FA or FL and (2)he has got through the half million pay off he received when ousted and needs to come back on his quarter million salary.
This man is totally besotted with himself and his position and believes he, not Ted Bates, is Mr Southampton.
Some of us have news for him.......
Posted by: Jannersaint, Plymuff on 11:32am Sat 29 Mar 08
Lowe made mistakes without doubt. So have the Arsenal and Liverpool directors this season. I think Lowe did less harm in his term than our current leaders. He is a business man first. There's no problem with than. If his pockets are bulging then the cub is succesful.
Even in the Premiership he had one eye over his shoulder like most fans did. We were always relegation candidates and had to consider a drop even if we were 4th for a while. The current lot have spent and dealt as if we deserved to get back up and would with little effort. Lowe would have been more careful. We wouldn't have appreciated it but it would have been necessary. IMHO We would be a stable Championship side with no administration worries were Lowe still around, and in good time players coming through and safe player purchases would have pushed us up the Championship.
Lowe made mistakes without doubt. So have the Arsenal and Liverpool directors this season. I think Lowe did less harm in his term than our current leaders. He is a business man first. There's no problem with than. If his pockets are bulging then the cub is succesful.
Even in the Premiership he had one eye over his shoulder like most fans did. We were always relegation candidates and had to consider a drop even if we were 4th for a while. The current lot have spent and dealt as if we deserved to get back up and would with little effort. Lowe would have been more careful. We wouldn't have appreciated it but it would have been necessary. IMHO We would be a stable Championship side with no administration worries were Lowe still around, and in good time players coming through and safe player purchases would have pushed us up the Championship.
Posted by: swinglowe, waiting for the hanging on 11:54am Sat 29 Mar 08
lowe just go away and curl up and die.as for you wilde you are a fukn disgrace if you jump into bed with jolly hockey sticks.what went on last time with the demo,s will be nothing compared to what will happen if those two parasites walk back into sfc.just forget it sell your shares and just disappear up your own backsides.
lowe just go away and curl up and die.as for you wilde you are a fukn disgrace if you jump into bed with jolly hockey sticks.what went on last time with the demo,s will be nothing compared to what will happen if those two parasites walk back into sfc.just forget it sell your shares and just disappear up your own backsides.
Posted by: The Knowledge, Itchen Stand on 12:00pm Sat 29 Mar 08
Lowe in his ten years couldn't find a "sugar daddy" and relied on the Sky TV money to get by.
Wilde resigned because he couldn't find an investor to dig us out of the hole Lowe put us in. So what is to be gained by this unholy alliance?
New investment? Unlikely otherwise we would have had that announcement already.
So other than taking playground politics to a new level what exactly is their reasoning behind taking control of the club? You would like to think it's for the best interests of the club, sadly I think the reality is somewhat more selfish than that.
This once proud football club does not deserve these people but unfortunately thats what happens when clubs become PLC's they are at the mercy of people who know the price of everything and the value of nothing!!
Lowe in his ten years couldn't find a "sugar daddy" and relied on the Sky TV money to get by.
Wilde resigned because he couldn't find an investor to dig us out of the hole Lowe put us in. So what is to be gained by this unholy alliance?
New investment? Unlikely otherwise we would have had that announcement already.
So other than taking playground politics to a new level what exactly is their reasoning behind taking control of the club? You would like to think it's for the best interests of the club, sadly I think the reality is somewhat more selfish than that.
This once proud football club does not deserve these people but unfortunately thats what happens when clubs become PLC's they are at the mercy of people who know the price of everything and the value of nothing!!
Posted by: John on 12:03pm Sat 29 Mar 08
Jannersaint, one of my problems with Lowe was that his pockets bulged and will bulge again whether the club is successful or not.
With a holding of only 6% of the shares he set himself up as chairman AND chief executive, a situation totally frowned upon in all company best practice codes, and when by all management measures was found to be a failure, there was no recourse to reduce his salary let alone remove him.
So, yes, pay people well, but link it to performance.
If any one of us could get a job under the terms of very high salary and no accountability that Lowe has basked in, wouldn't life be wonderful!
Jannersaint, one of my problems with Lowe was that his pockets bulged and will bulge again whether the club is successful or not.
With a holding of only 6% of the shares he set himself up as chairman AND chief executive, a situation totally frowned upon in all company best practice codes, and when by all management measures was found to be a failure, there was no recourse to reduce his salary let alone remove him.
So, yes, pay people well, but link it to performance.
If any one of us could get a job under the terms of very high salary and no accountability that Lowe has basked in, wouldn't life be wonderful!
Posted by: Egomaniac, Southampton on 12:06pm Sat 29 Mar 08
Swinglowe:
If your contribution above is the best you can come up with, I suggest you go back to school to learn to write without offensive remarks and childish contriubutions. Your comment says an awful lot about you - and I mean awful!
You and Mr Gray should get together somewhere where you can swear and curse to your hearts content without offending decent literate contributors.
Swinglowe:
If your contribution above is the best you can come up with, I suggest you go back to school to learn to write without offensive remarks and childish contriubutions. Your comment says an awful lot about you - and I mean awful!
You and Mr Gray should get together somewhere where you can swear and curse to your hearts content without offending decent literate contributors.
Posted by: Phil, Southampton on 12:15pm Sat 29 Mar 08
Yes some good comments on here for a change although no doubt we will be joined by more carpet-chewers ling swinglowe soon.
I think Lowe can bring some stability to the club,I doubt whether he will bring much further investment but then neither have Wilde or Crouch.
We can start re-building the club from the base up instead of being subjected to the false dawns promised by Wilde and his phoney cohorts.
Yes some good comments on here for a change although no doubt we will be joined by more carpet-chewers ling swinglowe soon.
I think Lowe can bring some stability to the club,I doubt whether he will bring much further investment but then neither have Wilde or Crouch.
We can start re-building the club from the base up instead of being subjected to the false dawns promised by Wilde and his phoney cohorts.
Posted by: fadge, midanbury on 12:24pm Sat 29 Mar 08
Is king rupert really that stupid and thick skinned to come back and take all that stick again because believe me you fool we wanted you out before and you wont be welcome again. As for you wilde you put the last board together after you got lowe out and that is what was the last nail in the coffin not this board thats there now who are all saints fans and doing the best they can with what they have got.
Is king rupert really that stupid and thick skinned to come back and take all that stick again because believe me you fool we wanted you out before and you wont be welcome again. As for you wilde you put the last board together after you got lowe out and that is what was the last nail in the coffin not this board thats there now who are all saints fans and doing the best they can with what they have got.
Posted by: Bemused, Hants on 12:29pm Sat 29 Mar 08
I do worry about some supposed "fans" apparently some are now saying they want us to get relegated as then administration would scupper Lowes plans.It really is beyond belief.
Presumably they are the same lot that were "boycotting" Saints while Lowe was in charge although strangely looking at attendances most dont seem to have returned.
I do worry about some supposed "fans" apparently some are now saying they want us to get relegated as then administration would scupper Lowes plans.It really is beyond belief.
Presumably they are the same lot that were "boycotting" Saints while Lowe was in charge although strangely looking at attendances most dont seem to have returned.
Posted by: Suspicious Shareholder, Southampton on 12:31pm Sat 29 Mar 08
What are Lowe and Wilde upto ? The timing of their intervention at board could hardly be at a more critical period. Why not wait 4/5 weeks to allow the team, manager & fans to concentrate on avoiding relegation.
If the PLC is still in an 'offer Period' could their motive be to take power asap to head off negociations with new investors because it is not in Lowe/Wilde's own interests.
I know the club cannot comment if the PLC is still in the 'offer period' but Lowe & Wilde must declare their real motives before calling an EGM.
I am about to take advantage of the March discount and renew my season ticket regardless of which division because I will always support Saints, however if the worst happends and no investment arrives forcing the club into administration will my ticket be secure &/or refunded ?
What are Lowe and Wilde upto ? The timing of their intervention at board could hardly be at a more critical period. Why not wait 4/5 weeks to allow the team, manager & fans to concentrate on avoiding relegation.
If the PLC is still in an 'offer Period' could their motive be to take power asap to head off negociations with new investors because it is not in Lowe/Wilde's own interests.
I know the club cannot comment if the PLC is still in the 'offer period' but Lowe & Wilde must declare their real motives before calling an EGM.
I am about to take advantage of the March discount and renew my season ticket regardless of which division because I will always support Saints, however if the worst happends and no investment arrives forcing the club into administration will my ticket be secure &/or refunded ?
Posted by: Harold, St Marys on 12:33pm Sat 29 Mar 08
[quote][bold]fadge[/bold] wrote:
Is king rupert really that stupid and thick skinned to come back and take all that stick again because believe me you fool we wanted you out before and you wont be welcome again. As for you wilde you put the last board together after you got lowe out and that is what was the last nail in the coffin not this board thats there now who are all saints fans and doing the best they can with what they have got. [/quote] If the current board are "fans" like you that would explain why we are in the doo-doo.LOL !
fadge wrote:
Is king rupert really that stupid and thick skinned to come back and take all that stick again because believe me you fool we wanted you out before and you wont be welcome again. As for you wilde you put the last board together after you got lowe out and that is what was the last nail in the coffin not this board thats there now who are all saints fans and doing the best they can with what they have got.
If the current board are "fans" like you that would explain why we are in the doo-doo.LOL !
Posted by: saints forever, southampton on 12:52pm Sat 29 Mar 08
Best news for ages. I never supported the mindless SISA led Northam yobs that forced Lowe out. OK Lowe made some managerial mistakes but the club was sound
Come back Lowe, and to al those minority that don't and spit out hateful remarks, just get lost and leave our club alone, your not propoer supporters just a SISA gobsh*te mouthpiece
Best news for ages. I never supported the mindless SISA led Northam yobs that forced Lowe out. OK Lowe made some managerial mistakes but the club was sound
Come back Lowe, and to al those minority that don't and spit out hateful remarks, just get lost and leave our club alone, your not propoer supporters just a SISA gobsh*te mouthpiece
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Posted by: Realist, Hampshire on 1:05pm Sat 29 Mar 08
Re Swinglowe
I'm afraid pathetic individuals like him are one of the reasons why we find the club in its current predictament.Sheep mentality comes to mind.
Lowe made some fundamental mistakes as Chairman mainly employing managers like Gray and Wigley.
However ultimately the players are the key , how can directors and fans legislate for conceding goals in last minute etc as we still do and did especially in our relegation season
So to be honest all sides of the club , supporters , directors and players have not covered themselves in glory in recent years.
Is Lowe the saviour, perhaps not but perhaps he will have a better reputation with investors / bank which we may need in due course that the current regime.
Not ideal but better than at present at is cannot get any worse at boardroom level.
Re Swinglowe
I'm afraid pathetic individuals like him are one of the reasons why we find the club in its current predictament.Sheep mentality comes to mind.
Lowe made some fundamental mistakes as Chairman mainly employing managers like Gray and Wigley.
However ultimately the players are the key , how can directors and fans legislate for conceding goals in last minute etc as we still do and did especially in our relegation season
So to be honest all sides of the club , supporters , directors and players have not covered themselves in glory in recent years.
Is Lowe the saviour, perhaps not but perhaps he will have a better reputation with investors / bank which we may need in due course that the current regime.
Not ideal but better than at present at is cannot get any worse at boardroom level.
Posted by: saints forever, southampton on 1:09pm Sat 29 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Andy P[/bold] wrote:
Using the media to increase the value of a share, to delibrately put of investors, is l would imaging a very serious criminal offence.
As the saying goes "If you cannot do the time,dont do the CRIME!
Some people will go to great extremes and will make mistakes when the red-mist descends.
This will be very interesting,just you wait and see.[/quote] yet more gobsh*te SISA propaganda from the Northam yobs. It is SISA and the Northam end that got us into this mess. Lowe would have kept Saints afloat and ensured that we were on a good business footing to return to the premiership.
My solution is Bring back Lowe and strip SISA members of their season tickets
Andy P wrote:
Using the media to increase the value of a share, to delibrately put of investors, is l would imaging a very serious criminal offence.
As the saying goes "If you cannot do the time,dont do the CRIME!
Some people will go to great extremes and will make mistakes when the red-mist descends.
This will be very interesting,just you wait and see.
yet more gobsh*te SISA propaganda from the Northam yobs. It is SISA and the Northam end that got us into this mess. Lowe would have kept Saints afloat and ensured that we were on a good business footing to return to the premiership.
My solution is Bring back Lowe and strip SISA members of their season tickets
Posted by: Andy P, Bitterne on 1:15pm Sat 29 Mar 08
[quote][bold]saints forever[/bold] wrote:
Best news for ages. I never supported the mindless SISA led Northam yobs that forced Lowe out. OK Lowe made some managerial mistakes but the club was sound Come back Lowe, and to al those minority that don\'t and spit out hateful remarks, just get lost and leave our club alone, your not propoer supporters just a SISA gobsh*te mouthpiece[/quote] You forgot to mention the 20k yobs who stood on their feet when trying to force Lowe out,at the Ipswich game.
The mindless Northam yobs that you refer to, are probably all on there way to watch Saints play at Cardiff today.
You have quite clearly got your minorities and majorities back to front.
Oh and by the way, that round thing is called a football.
saints forever wrote:
Best news for ages. I never supported the mindless SISA led Northam yobs that forced Lowe out. OK Lowe made some managerial mistakes but the club was sound Come back Lowe, and to al those minority that don\'t and spit out hateful remarks, just get lost and leave our club alone, your not propoer supporters just a SISA gobsh*te mouthpiece
You forgot to mention the 20k yobs who stood on their feet when trying to force Lowe out,at the Ipswich game.
The mindless Northam yobs that you refer to, are probably all on there way to watch Saints play at Cardiff today.
You have quite clearly got your minorities and majorities back to front.
Oh and by the way, that round thing is called a football.
Posted by: fadge, midanbury on 1:20pm Sat 29 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Harold[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]fadge[/bold] wrote: Is king rupert really that stupid and thick skinned to come back and take all that stick again because believe me you fool we wanted you out before and you wont be welcome again. As for you wilde you put the last board together after you got lowe out and that is what was the last nail in the coffin not this board thats there now who are all saints fans and doing the best they can with what they have got. [/quote] If the current board are \"fans\" like you that would explain why we are in the doo-doo.LOL ![/quote] well if you like king rupert . hope you look forward to 10,000 to being in the ground next season.
Harold wrote:
fadge wrote: Is king rupert really that stupid and thick skinned to come back and take all that stick again because believe me you fool we wanted you out before and you wont be welcome again. As for you wilde you put the last board together after you got lowe out and that is what was the last nail in the coffin not this board thats there now who are all saints fans and doing the best they can with what they have got.
If the current board are \"fans\" like you that would explain why we are in the doo-doo.LOL !
well if you like king rupert . hope you look forward to 10,000 to being in the ground next season.
Posted by: RUPERT LOWE, my house on 1:21pm Sat 29 Mar 08
IM COMMING BACK TO KILL THE CLUB ONCE AND FOR ALL!
IM COMMING BACK TO KILL THE CLUB ONCE AND FOR ALL!
Posted by: butty, Le rice on 1:23pm Sat 29 Mar 08
It's heart breaking we have to discuss board matters because the current and new players recently bought in are just not that good enough to talk about! Where do we go? I don't think any one knows. I personally would not want Lowe back and feel he used us to try and broadcast his own image, I can't forget him on the training pitch and signing at least 2 players. As for the current lot they seem to be 1 notch up from football factory material, swanning into the club bringing mates in and drinking for free with Lawrie Mac's blessing who is apparently being paid 100000 a year! We as supporters are mugs
It's heart breaking we have to discuss board matters because the current and new players recently bought in are just not that good enough to talk about! Where do we go? I don't think any one knows. I personally would not want Lowe back and feel he used us to try and broadcast his own image, I can't forget him on the training pitch and signing at least 2 players. As for the current lot they seem to be 1 notch up from football factory material, swanning into the club bringing mates in and drinking for free with Lawrie Mac's blessing who is apparently being paid 100000 a year! We as supporters are mugs
Posted by: Phil, Southampton on 1:27pm Sat 29 Mar 08
I have wondered why Lowe would subject himself to further abuse by returning.
But I heard last night he has a masterstroke up his sleeve,the return of a certain Gordon Strachan.Gordon is not enjoying it under the microscope up in Glasgow and if,as looks likely ,Rangers win the league his contract will be terminated.
I have wondered why Lowe would subject himself to further abuse by returning.
But I heard last night he has a masterstroke up his sleeve,the return of a certain Gordon Strachan.Gordon is not enjoying it under the microscope up in Glasgow and if,as looks likely ,Rangers win the league his contract will be terminated.
Posted by: Ric Flair on 1:35pm Sat 29 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Ric Flair[/bold] wrote:
forget the the match everyone watch wrestlemania 24 tommorrow live on sky box office at 12am, you can order the event from now thats real entertainment[/quote] [bold]wrestlemania 24[/bold]
Ric Flair wrote:
forget the the match everyone watch wrestlemania 24 tommorrow live on sky box office at 12am, you can order the event from now thats real entertainment
wrestlemania 24
Posted by: Colin Moon, Hampshire on 1:36pm Sat 29 Mar 08
I am seriously concerned to hear that Rupert Lowe plans to return to Southampton FC. I fear that should it happen, it could spell the death knell for the Club. I have been a Saints Supporter for 39 years and a Season Ticket holder for the last 5 years but there is no way that I will set foot in Sr Marys Stadium if Mr Lowe returns. I also know that many supporters share the same feelings. Rupert Lowe's tenure at Southampton FC was a classic case of a Senior Excutive with a big ego focusing on the wrong priorities and making serious errors of judgement due to insufficient in-depth knowledge of the business he is involved in. The wrong decisions include the appointment of a serious of unsuitable managers and the failure to support the good managers he had, especially Harry Redknapp who has gone on to prove his abilities at Portsmouth, have been devastating and if Mr Lowe thinks otherwise, he should change his name to Walter Mitty. I also feel that Michael Wilde should be ashamed of himself if he is involved in Rupert Lowe's plans. He more than anyone is responsible for the current turmoil at Board level since Ruper Lowe left.
I am seriously concerned to hear that Rupert Lowe plans to return to Southampton FC. I fear that should it happen, it could spell the death knell for the Club. I have been a Saints Supporter for 39 years and a Season Ticket holder for the last 5 years but there is no way that I will set foot in Sr Marys Stadium if Mr Lowe returns. I also know that many supporters share the same feelings. Rupert Lowe's tenure at Southampton FC was a classic case of a Senior Excutive with a big ego focusing on the wrong priorities and making serious errors of judgement due to insufficient in-depth knowledge of the business he is involved in. The wrong decisions include the appointment of a serious of unsuitable managers and the failure to support the good managers he had, especially Harry Redknapp who has gone on to prove his abilities at Portsmouth, have been devastating and if Mr Lowe thinks otherwise, he should change his name to Walter Mitty. I also feel that Michael Wilde should be ashamed of himself if he is involved in Rupert Lowe's plans. He more than anyone is responsible for the current turmoil at Board level since Ruper Lowe left.
Posted by: If you knew what l knew!, London on 1:40pm Sat 29 Mar 08
[quote][bold]saints forever[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Andy P[/bold] wrote: Using the media to increase the value of a share, to delibrately put of investors, is l would imaging a very serious criminal offence. As the saying goes "If you cannot do the time,dont do the CRIME! Some people will go to great extremes and will make mistakes when the red-mist descends. This will be very interesting,just you wait and see.[/quote] yet more gobsh*te SISA propaganda from the Northam yobs. It is SISA and the Northam end that got us into this mess. Lowe would have kept Saints afloat and ensured that we were on a good business footing to return to the premiership. My solution is Bring back Lowe and strip SISA members of their season tickets[/quote] Using the media to increase the value of a share,to DELIBRATELY increase the profit of that share price would be deemed deceptive and a very serious criminal act.
Especially if those USED to create such deception are American billionaires.
Work it out.
saints forever wrote:
Andy P wrote: Using the media to increase the value of a share, to delibrately put of investors, is l would imaging a very serious criminal offence. As the saying goes "If you cannot do the time,dont do the CRIME! Some people will go to great extremes and will make mistakes when the red-mist descends. This will be very interesting,just you wait and see.
yet more gobsh*te SISA propaganda from the Northam yobs. It is SISA and the Northam end that got us into this mess. Lowe would have kept Saints afloat and ensured that we were on a good business footing to return to the premiership. My solution is Bring back Lowe and strip SISA members of their season tickets
Using the media to increase the value of a share,to DELIBRATELY increase the profit of that share price would be deemed deceptive and a very serious criminal act.
Especially if those USED to create such deception are American billionaires.
Work it out.
Posted by: saints forever, southampton in cardiff today on 1:41pm Sat 29 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Andy P[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]saints forever[/bold] wrote:
Best news for ages. I never supported the mindless SISA led Northam yobs that forced Lowe out. OK Lowe made some managerial mistakes but the club was sound Come back Lowe, and to al those minority that don\'t and spit out hateful remarks, just get lost and leave our club alone, your not propoer supporters just a SISA gobsh*te mouthpiece[/quote] You forgot to mention the 20k yobs who stood on their feet when trying to force Lowe out,at the Ipswich game.
The mindless Northam yobs that you refer to, are probably all on there way to watch Saints play at Cardiff today.
You have quite clearly got your minorities and majorities back to front.
Oh and by the way, that round thing is called a football.[/quote] you idiot im in cardiff
Andy P wrote:
saints forever wrote:
Best news for ages. I never supported the mindless SISA led Northam yobs that forced Lowe out. OK Lowe made some managerial mistakes but the club was sound Come back Lowe, and to al those minority that don\'t and spit out hateful remarks, just get lost and leave our club alone, your not propoer supporters just a SISA gobsh*te mouthpiece
You forgot to mention the 20k yobs who stood on their feet when trying to force Lowe out,at the Ipswich game.
The mindless Northam yobs that you refer to, are probably all on there way to watch Saints play at Cardiff today.
You have quite clearly got your minorities and majorities back to front.
Oh and by the way, that round thing is called a football.
you idiot im in cardiff
Posted by: Ric Flair, SAINT FAN IN CARDIFF on 1:46pm Sat 29 Mar 08
[quote][bold]saints forever[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Andy P[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]saints forever[/bold] wrote: Best news for ages. I never supported the mindless SISA led Northam yobs that forced Lowe out. OK Lowe made some managerial mistakes but the club was sound Come back Lowe, and to al those minority that don\'t and spit out hateful remarks, just get lost and leave our club alone, your not propoer supporters just a SISA gobsh*te mouthpiece[/quote] You forgot to mention the 20k yobs who stood on their feet when trying to force Lowe out,at the Ipswich game. The mindless Northam yobs that you refer to, are probably all on there way to watch Saints play at Cardiff today. You have quite clearly got your minorities and majorities back to front. Oh and by the way, that round thing is called a football.[/quote] you idiot im in cardiff [/quote] SO AM I BUT WRESTLEMANIA 24 IS THE BIG EVENT
saints forever wrote:
Andy P wrote: saints forever wrote: Best news for ages. I never supported the mindless SISA led Northam yobs that forced Lowe out. OK Lowe made some managerial mistakes but the club was sound Come back Lowe, and to al those minority that don\'t and spit out hateful remarks, just get lost and leave our club alone, your not propoer supporters just a SISA gobsh*te mouthpiece
You forgot to mention the 20k yobs who stood on their feet when trying to force Lowe out,at the Ipswich game. The mindless Northam yobs that you refer to, are probably all on there way to watch Saints play at Cardiff today. You have quite clearly got your minorities and majorities back to front. Oh and by the way, that round thing is called a football.
you idiot im in cardiff
SO AM I BUT WRESTLEMANIA 24 IS THE BIG EVENT
Posted by: Andy P, Bitterne on 1:47pm Sat 29 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Colin Moon[/bold] wrote:
I am seriously concerned to hear that Rupert Lowe plans to return to Southampton FC. I fear that should it happen, it could spell the death knell for the Club. I have been a Saints Supporter for 39 years and a Season Ticket holder for the last 5 years but there is no way that I will set foot in Sr Marys Stadium if Mr Lowe returns. I also know that many supporters share the same feelings. Rupert Lowe's tenure at Southampton FC was a classic case of a Senior Excutive with a big ego focusing on the wrong priorities and making serious errors of judgement due to insufficient in-depth knowledge of the business he is involved in. The wrong decisions include the appointment of a serious of unsuitable managers and the failure to support the good managers he had, especially Harry Redknapp who has gone on to prove his abilities at Portsmouth, have been devastating and if Mr Lowe thinks otherwise, he should change his name to Walter Mitty. I also feel that Michael Wilde should be ashamed of himself if he is involved in Rupert Lowe's plans. He more than anyone is responsible for the current turmoil at Board level since Ruper Lowe left.[/quote] Michael Wilde is no more than a filthy FLEA,jumping from one to the other, clearly motivated by finance and greed.
As soon as he realised Saints were not going to get back into the Premiership (where all the money is)he was GONE, and had no interest.
SHAME ON YOU MICHAEL WILDE.
Colin Moon wrote:
I am seriously concerned to hear that Rupert Lowe plans to return to Southampton FC. I fear that should it happen, it could spell the death knell for the Club. I have been a Saints Supporter for 39 years and a Season Ticket holder for the last 5 years but there is no way that I will set foot in Sr Marys Stadium if Mr Lowe returns. I also know that many supporters share the same feelings. Rupert Lowe's tenure at Southampton FC was a classic case of a Senior Excutive with a big ego focusing on the wrong priorities and making serious errors of judgement due to insufficient in-depth knowledge of the business he is involved in. The wrong decisions include the appointment of a serious of unsuitable managers and the failure to support the good managers he had, especially Harry Redknapp who has gone on to prove his abilities at Portsmouth, have been devastating and if Mr Lowe thinks otherwise, he should change his name to Walter Mitty. I also feel that Michael Wilde should be ashamed of himself if he is involved in Rupert Lowe's plans. He more than anyone is responsible for the current turmoil at Board level since Ruper Lowe left.
Michael Wilde is no more than a filthy FLEA,jumping from one to the other, clearly motivated by finance and greed.
As soon as he realised Saints were not going to get back into the Premiership (where all the money is)he was GONE, and had no interest.
SHAME ON YOU MICHAEL WILDE.
Posted by: Andy P, Bitterne on 2:00pm Sat 29 Mar 08
[quote][bold]saints forever[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Andy P[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]saints forever[/bold] wrote: Best news for ages. I never supported the mindless SISA led Northam yobs that forced Lowe out. OK Lowe made some managerial mistakes but the club was sound Come back Lowe, and to al those minority that don\'t and spit out hateful remarks, just get lost and leave our club alone, your not propoer supporters just a SISA gobsh*te mouthpiece[/quote] You forgot to mention the 20k yobs who stood on their feet when trying to force Lowe out,at the Ipswich game. The mindless Northam yobs that you refer to, are probably all on there way to watch Saints play at Cardiff today. You have quite clearly got your minorities and majorities back to front. Oh and by the way, that round thing is called a football.[/quote] you idiot im in cardiff [/quote] Why is there some sort of rugby match going on then,or maybe some hockey tournement in Cardiff today.
The fact that you called me an IDIOT just shows that you cannot answer my post.
Therefore,oh clueless one you are the IDIOT.
Now go and chase that white thing that shaped like an egg, because it is clearly evident you know absolutely nothing about football.
saints forever wrote:
Andy P wrote: saints forever wrote: Best news for ages. I never supported the mindless SISA led Northam yobs that forced Lowe out. OK Lowe made some managerial mistakes but the club was sound Come back Lowe, and to al those minority that don\'t and spit out hateful remarks, just get lost and leave our club alone, your not propoer supporters just a SISA gobsh*te mouthpiece
You forgot to mention the 20k yobs who stood on their feet when trying to force Lowe out,at the Ipswich game. The mindless Northam yobs that you refer to, are probably all on there way to watch Saints play at Cardiff today. You have quite clearly got your minorities and majorities back to front. Oh and by the way, that round thing is called a football.
you idiot im in cardiff
Why is there some sort of rugby match going on then,or maybe some hockey tournement in Cardiff today.
The fact that you called me an IDIOT just shows that you cannot answer my post.
Therefore,oh clueless one you are the IDIOT.
Now go and chase that white thing that shaped like an egg, because it is clearly evident you know absolutely nothing about football.
Posted by: Andy P, Bitterne on 2:10pm Sat 29 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Phil[/bold] wrote:
I have wondered why Lowe would subject himself to further abuse by returning. But I heard last night he has a masterstroke up his sleeve,the return of a certain Gordon Strachan.Gordon is not enjoying it under the microscope up in Glasgow and if,as looks likely ,Rangers win the league his contract will be terminated. [/quote] Gordon Strachan hates Rupert Lowe more than he hates Rangers,FACT!
Be assured the last person Gordon would associate himself with,would be Lowe.
SPIN!
Phil wrote:
I have wondered why Lowe would subject himself to further abuse by returning. But I heard last night he has a masterstroke up his sleeve,the return of a certain Gordon Strachan.Gordon is not enjoying it under the microscope up in Glasgow and if,as looks likely ,Rangers win the league his contract will be terminated.
Gordon Strachan hates Rupert Lowe more than he hates Rangers,FACT!
Be assured the last person Gordon would associate himself with,would be Lowe.
SPIN!
Posted by: Sheitma Pance, Soton on 2:20pm Sat 29 Mar 08
Let's be honest, the current board have done very badly and there is no sign of anyone else genuinely wanting to take the club over.
Lowe is a businessman, pure and simple and he'll be looking to return Saints to profitability.
The only way this can be done is by returning the Saints to the Premiership as that's where the big money is.
Personally, I believe that Lowe is now the only person capable of turning the club around.
I say give Lowe a chance and the supporters should get behind him.
Let's be honest, the current board have done very badly and there is no sign of anyone else genuinely wanting to take the club over.
Lowe is a businessman, pure and simple and he'll be looking to return Saints to profitability.
The only way this can be done is by returning the Saints to the Premiership as that's where the big money is.
Personally, I believe that Lowe is now the only person capable of turning the club around.
I say give Lowe a chance and the supporters should get behind him.
Posted by: SHEEP IN SAINTS COTHING, CAAAAAARFIFF on 2:29pm Sat 29 Mar 08
UP THE BOYOS-YOU LOT ARE DOWN AND OUT-simple as,up the Easteigh town :)
UP THE BOYOS-YOU LOT ARE DOWN AND OUT-simple as,up the Easteigh town :)
Posted by: Reg, Soton on 2:37pm Sat 29 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Andy P[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Phil[/bold] wrote:
I have wondered why Lowe would subject himself to further abuse by returning. But I heard last night he has a masterstroke up his sleeve,the return of a certain Gordon Strachan.Gordon is not enjoying it under the microscope up in Glasgow and if,as looks likely ,Rangers win the league his contract will be terminated. [/quote] Gordon Strachan hates Rupert Lowe more than he hates Rangers,FACT!
Be assured the last person Gordon would associate himself with,would be Lowe.
SPIN![/quote] Sorry mate,NOT FACT they got on well,why do you think we were doing so well when both were in charge ?
Wee Gordon leaving because of Lowe is a complete myth.
Andy P wrote:
Phil wrote:
I have wondered why Lowe would subject himself to further abuse by returning. But I heard last night he has a masterstroke up his sleeve,the return of a certain Gordon Strachan.Gordon is not enjoying it under the microscope up in Glasgow and if,as looks likely ,Rangers win the league his contract will be terminated.
Gordon Strachan hates Rupert Lowe more than he hates Rangers,FACT!
Be assured the last person Gordon would associate himself with,would be Lowe.
SPIN!
Sorry mate,NOT FACT they got on well,why do you think we were doing so well when both were in charge ?
Wee Gordon leaving because of Lowe is a complete myth.
Posted by: Sad days, just not on 3:14pm Sat 29 Mar 08
1-0 already,time for another hammering methinks.To all you idiots that have been saying for the last few weeks "stop the panic,we aint going down"i say this,MUPPETS
1-0 already,time for another hammering methinks.To all you idiots that have been saying for the last few weeks "stop the panic,we aint going down"i say this,MUPPETS
Posted by: Fan First, Shareholder second, New Forest on 4:00pm Sat 29 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Reg[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Andy P[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Phil[/bold] wrote: I have wondered why Lowe would subject himself to further abuse by returning. But I heard last night he has a masterstroke up his sleeve,the return of a certain Gordon Strachan.Gordon is not enjoying it under the microscope up in Glasgow and if,as looks likely ,Rangers win the league his contract will be terminated. [/quote] Gordon Strachan hates Rupert Lowe more than he hates Rangers,FACT! Be assured the last person Gordon would associate himself with,would be Lowe. SPIN![/quote] Sorry mate,NOT FACT they got on well,why do you think we were doing so well when both were in charge ? Wee Gordon leaving because of Lowe is a complete myth.[/quote] Andy P: If you read 'Strachan' WGS's book that came out after he'd taken his year's break from football you will see that far from hating Lowe he has great respect for him. They had their differences as any manager should with his Chairman but the relationship was fundementally sound.
Personally I'd be surprised if WGS came back as manager, more likely as Director of Football, with good coaches under him.
Monday could well be a watershed in the SLH/SFC saga but I won't be holding my breath.
Reg wrote:
Andy P wrote: Phil wrote: I have wondered why Lowe would subject himself to further abuse by returning. But I heard last night he has a masterstroke up his sleeve,the return of a certain Gordon Strachan.Gordon is not enjoying it under the microscope up in Glasgow and if,as looks likely ,Rangers win the league his contract will be terminated.
Gordon Strachan hates Rupert Lowe more than he hates Rangers,FACT! Be assured the last person Gordon would associate himself with,would be Lowe. SPIN!
Sorry mate,NOT FACT they got on well,why do you think we were doing so well when both were in charge ? Wee Gordon leaving because of Lowe is a complete myth.
Andy P: If you read 'Strachan' WGS's book that came out after he'd taken his year's break from football you will see that far from hating Lowe he has great respect for him. They had their differences as any manager should with his Chairman but the relationship was fundementally sound.
Personally I'd be surprised if WGS came back as manager, more likely as Director of Football, with good coaches under him.
Monday could well be a watershed in the SLH/SFC saga but I won't be holding my breath.
Posted by: gedboy, Glasgow on 4:01pm Sat 29 Mar 08
So what's the accepted truth on why Strachan left?
So what's the accepted truth on why Strachan left?
Posted by: 40 Years as a Supporter, Southampton on 4:17pm Sat 29 Mar 08
To all you anti-Lowe people.
WAKE UP AND SMEEL THE COFFEE.
Wilde & Lowe own the club, you do not. Even if you have some shares you cannot out vote these two.
It is said that Lowe and Wilde speak for holders of over 46% of the club’s shares. I suspect it will prove to be a lot higher as there are a lot of small shareholders who will support him at any EGM.
The Club should be run by the owners who have a dual reason for the success.
If you want to see SAINTS back at the top, and it will take a few seasons, I urge you to give up your anti Lowe position and allow the owners of the club to join together in the interest of the Club’s future.
There will be no quick fixes, it will take a number of seasons for SAINTS to get to the premiership and consolidate there. We may even have to come down again first.
To all you anti-Lowe people.
WAKE UP AND SMEEL THE COFFEE.
Wilde & Lowe own the club, you do not. Even if you have some shares you cannot out vote these two.
It is said that Lowe and Wilde speak for holders of over 46% of the club’s shares. I suspect it will prove to be a lot higher as there are a lot of small shareholders who will support him at any EGM.
The Club should be run by the owners who have a dual reason for the success.
If you want to see SAINTS back at the top, and it will take a few seasons, I urge you to give up your anti Lowe position and allow the owners of the club to join together in the interest of the Club’s future.
There will be no quick fixes, it will take a number of seasons for SAINTS to get to the premiership and consolidate there. We may even have to come down again first.
Posted by: Fud Buster, Southampton on 4:25pm Sat 29 Mar 08
They are making a mockery of our football club, Lowe is just a pompous mummy's boy who is 100% to blame for the current plight we find our club in.
They are making a mockery of our football club, Lowe is just a pompous mummy's boy who is 100% to blame for the current plight we find our club in.
Posted by: crew 657, fratton park on 4:34pm Sat 29 Mar 08
if spellin bad as on handheld at game..were winning scum are losing..scum goin down just like their scum fans
if spellin bad as on handheld at game..were winning scum are losing..scum goin down just like their scum fans
Posted by: On a Crest of a Wave, Mid Channel on 4:45pm Sat 29 Mar 08
These guys really have no interest in Southampton F.C..Looking likely that we are going down where we belong.This is due to ask the Saints Fans a total lack of investment.
These guys really have no interest in Southampton F.C..Looking likely that we are going down where we belong.This is due to ask the Saints Fans a total lack of investment.
Posted by: bloke from portswood, portswood on 5:07pm Sat 29 Mar 08
im rupert lowe and so is my wife[bold]bold[/bold]
im rupert lowe and so is my wife
Posted by: StPete, Heaven on 5:08pm Sat 29 Mar 08
[quote][bold]crew 657[/bold] wrote:
if spellin bad as on handheld at game..were winning scum are losing..scum goin down just like their scum fans[/quote] The "Project Manager" at his articulate best again I see. Did you go to Oxford or Cambridge "Project Manager"? You're clearly such an intelligent person
[quote]Gordon Strachan hates Rupert Lowe more than he hates Rangers,FACT!
Be assured the last person Gordon would associate himself with,would be Lowe.
SPIN![/quote]
I suggest you check your "Facts" Andy. You seem to have them mixed up with something else. As amusing as you "Facts" are, if you base an argument on them, at least take the time to check them first
crew 657 wrote:
if spellin bad as on handheld at game..were winning scum are losing..scum goin down just like their scum fans
The "Project Manager" at his articulate best again I see. Did you go to Oxford or Cambridge "Project Manager"? You're clearly such an intelligent person
Gordon Strachan hates Rupert Lowe more than he hates Rangers,FACT!
Be assured the last person Gordon would associate himself with,would be Lowe.
SPIN!
I suggest you check your "Facts" Andy. You seem to have them mixed up with something else. As amusing as you "Facts" are, if you base an argument on them, at least take the time to check them first
Posted by: steve, soton on 5:08pm Sat 29 Mar 08
crew 657 you are a gayboy
crew 657 you are a gayboy
Posted by: DOOMED, in the brown stuff on 5:15pm Sat 29 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Sad days[/bold] wrote:
1-0 already,time for another hammering methinks.To all you idiots that have been saying for the last few weeks "stop the panic,we aint going down"i say this,MUPPETS[/quote] gotta agree,we are screwed,BIGTIME! :( gutted!
Sad days wrote:
1-0 already,time for another hammering methinks.To all you idiots that have been saying for the last few weeks "stop the panic,we aint going down"i say this,MUPPETS
gotta agree,we are screwed,BIGTIME! :( gutted!
Posted by: Andy P, Bitterne on 5:16pm Sat 29 Mar 08
There you go Rupert and all his luvvies,you have all contributed to engineer the fall of this once great club.
Still you all deserve League 1 football next year,infact you have all now found the level that you all deserve.
Enjoy your park football next season, again well done.
There you go Rupert and all his luvvies,you have all contributed to engineer the fall of this once great club.
Still you all deserve League 1 football next year,infact you have all now found the level that you all deserve.
Enjoy your park football next season, again well done.
Posted by: the totton scrutineer, TOTTON on 5:19pm Sat 29 Mar 08
My Heart breaks for the CLUB I've supported since 1953 Ted Bates would feel the same way.Relegation seems certain and I'm an optimist normally.We are a club lost at sea with no rudder and too many captains without a clue what to do.We are playing poorly even though we are showing more spirit. We have RELEGATION written all over us.Let Lowe and Wilde steer this rudderles ship to safety if they can.But I doubt it ,they are too late and just as hopeless as the present bunch.They are only concerned about the value of their shares.Let's go down and start again after we've got rid of this lot.We will go nowhere without success on the pitch AND IN THE BOARD ROOM
My Heart breaks for the CLUB I've supported since 1953 Ted Bates would feel the same way.Relegation seems certain and I'm an optimist normally.We are a club lost at sea with no rudder and too many captains without a clue what to do.We are playing poorly even though we are showing more spirit. We have RELEGATION written all over us.Let Lowe and Wilde steer this rudderles ship to safety if they can.But I doubt it ,they are too late and just as hopeless as the present bunch.They are only concerned about the value of their shares.Let's go down and start again after we've got rid of this lot.We will go nowhere without success on the pitch AND IN THE BOARD ROOM
Posted by: David, Southampton on 5:36pm Sat 29 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Andy P[/bold] wrote:
There you go Rupert and all his luvvies,you have all contributed to engineer the fall of this once great club.
Still you all deserve League 1 football next year,infact you have all now found the level that you all deserve.
Enjoy your park football next season, again well done.[/quote] Its bedwetters like you that are partly responsible for our downfall.I'll bet you were singing "We've got our club back" after Lowe went.I bet you believed Wilde about the investment and I will stick my neck out and guess you were part of the gullible rabble that protested when the club planned to get Hoddle back.
Andy P wrote:
There you go Rupert and all his luvvies,you have all contributed to engineer the fall of this once great club.
Still you all deserve League 1 football next year,infact you have all now found the level that you all deserve.
Enjoy your park football next season, again well done.
Its bedwetters like you that are partly responsible for our downfall.I'll bet you were singing "We've got our club back" after Lowe went.I bet you believed Wilde about the investment and I will stick my neck out and guess you were part of the gullible rabble that protested when the club planned to get Hoddle back.
Posted by: Simon Ilett, peacehaven on 5:47pm Sat 29 Mar 08
Regardless of R.Lowe and M Wilde and regardless of relegation I will still love and support Southampton fc until the day I die.
Regardless of R.Lowe and M Wilde and regardless of relegation I will still love and support Southampton fc until the day I die.
Posted by: Andy P, Bitterne on 6:05pm Sat 29 Mar 08
[quote][bold]gedboy[/bold] wrote:
So what\'s the accepted truth on why Strachan left?[/quote] Heres the truth gedboy.
Gordon Strachan realised that SFC was merely a business to a handfall of shareholders,and unfourtunately football became secondary.
Instead of investing money back into the club, and moving upto the next level,the bank balances of those shareholders were far more important than the future of SFC.
This come to a head when Strachan wanted funds to buy MALBRONQUE from Fulham.
Lowe refused point-blank.
Strachan obviously knew then that there was no point in him and his team doing everything possible to establish themselves as a top eight club and duly walked out.
And l do not blame him.
Since the day Strachan left, the club has gone down at an alarming pace.
Football became secondary,the money people got their share of SFC,hence the reason why SFC will be playing in the third tier of football next season.
gedboy wrote:
So what\'s the accepted truth on why Strachan left?
Heres the truth gedboy.
Gordon Strachan realised that SFC was merely a business to a handfall of shareholders,and unfourtunately football became secondary.
Instead of investing money back into the club, and moving upto the next level,the bank balances of those shareholders were far more important than the future of SFC.
This come to a head when Strachan wanted funds to buy MALBRONQUE from Fulham.
Lowe refused point-blank.
Strachan obviously knew then that there was no point in him and his team doing everything possible to establish themselves as a top eight club and duly walked out.
And l do not blame him.
Since the day Strachan left, the club has gone down at an alarming pace.
Football became secondary,the money people got their share of SFC,hence the reason why SFC will be playing in the third tier of football next season.
Posted by: Milan the Duck Provider on 6:08pm Sat 29 Mar 08
Rupert Lowe , Football Genius , Nuff said .
Rupert Lowe , Football Genius , Nuff said .
Posted by: David on 6:13pm Sat 29 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Andy P[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]gedboy[/bold] wrote:
So what\'s the accepted truth on why Strachan left?[/quote] Heres the truth gedboy.
Gordon Strachan realised that SFC was merely a business to a handfall of shareholders,and unfourtunately football became secondary.
Instead of investing money back into the club, and moving upto the next level,the bank balances of those shareholders were far more important than the future of SFC.
This come to a head when Strachan wanted funds to buy MALBRONQUE from Fulham.
Lowe refused point-blank.
Strachan obviously knew then that there was no point in him and his team doing everything possible to establish themselves as a top eight club and duly walked out.
And l do not blame him.
Since the day Strachan left, the club has gone down at an alarming pace.
Football became secondary,the money people got their share of SFC,hence the reason why SFC will be playing in the third tier of football next season.
[/quote] Complete and utter nonsense.You need to believe rubbish like this otherwise you would have to accept the likes of you are responsible for the decline in the club.
Andy P wrote:
gedboy wrote:
So what\'s the accepted truth on why Strachan left?
Heres the truth gedboy.
Gordon Strachan realised that SFC was merely a business to a handfall of shareholders,and unfourtunately football became secondary.
Instead of investing money back into the club, and moving upto the next level,the bank balances of those shareholders were far more important than the future of SFC.
This come to a head when Strachan wanted funds to buy MALBRONQUE from Fulham.
Lowe refused point-blank.
Strachan obviously knew then that there was no point in him and his team doing everything possible to establish themselves as a top eight club and duly walked out.
And l do not blame him.
Since the day Strachan left, the club has gone down at an alarming pace.
Football became secondary,the money people got their share of SFC,hence the reason why SFC will be playing in the third tier of football next season.
Complete and utter nonsense.You need to believe rubbish like this otherwise you would have to accept the likes of you are responsible for the decline in the club.
Posted by: MACKEYDEE, bitterne on 6:14pm Sat 29 Mar 08
rupert lowe is a complete and utter [bold]c*nt[/bold] !!!no words can describe how much i hate that man.Just as the team start to show a bit of spirit and commitment he has to come in and stir everything up like a teenage little bi*ch.I HATE HIM!! and guess where Rupert is at the moment? he's on bloody holiday at the most vital part of the season. Shows how much he cares about the current plight of our club.[bold]C*NT!!!!!!![/bold]
rupert lowe is a complete and utter
c*nt !!!no words can describe how much i hate that man.Just as the team start to show a bit of spirit and commitment he has to come in and stir everything up like a teenage little bi*ch.I HATE HIM!! and guess where Rupert is at the moment? he's on bloody holiday at the most vital part of the season. Shows how much he cares about the current plight of our club.
C*NT!!!!!!! Posted by: rational on 6:29pm Sat 29 Mar 08
[quote][bold]David[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Andy P[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]gedboy[/bold] wrote: So what\'s the accepted truth on why Strachan left?[/quote] Heres the truth gedboy. Gordon Strachan realised that SFC was merely a business to a handfall of shareholders,and unfourtunately football became secondary. Instead of investing money back into the club, and moving upto the next level,the bank balances of those shareholders were far more important than the future of SFC. This come to a head when Strachan wanted funds to buy MALBRONQUE from Fulham. Lowe refused point-blank. Strachan obviously knew then that there was no point in him and his team doing everything possible to establish themselves as a top eight club and duly walked out. And l do not blame him. Since the day Strachan left, the club has gone down at an alarming pace. Football became secondary,the money people got their share of SFC,hence the reason why SFC will be playing in the third tier of football next season. [/quote] Complete and utter nonsense.You need to believe rubbish like this otherwise you would have to accept the likes of you are responsible for the decline in the club.[/quote] Agree with you Dave.
Strachan tells a very different version of 'the truth' and I believe WGS over the rabid fringe's account.
As for the money people getting their share of SFC - they had that to begin with! They were hugely out of pocket following relegation and had the most to gain from getting back up.
As for the reason SFC may be in Div 1 (as a real fan I will not give up until the end) look no further than the people who took over. Why are they not simply buying us out of trouble? Either now or when we still had the parachute payment?
Answer - the money has to come from somewhere!
Where do you suggest?
David wrote:
Andy P wrote: gedboy wrote: So what\'s the accepted truth on why Strachan left?
Heres the truth gedboy. Gordon Strachan realised that SFC was merely a business to a handfall of shareholders,and unfourtunately football became secondary. Instead of investing money back into the club, and moving upto the next level,the bank balances of those shareholders were far more important than the future of SFC. This come to a head when Strachan wanted funds to buy MALBRONQUE from Fulham. Lowe refused point-blank. Strachan obviously knew then that there was no point in him and his team doing everything possible to establish themselves as a top eight club and duly walked out. And l do not blame him. Since the day Strachan left, the club has gone down at an alarming pace. Football became secondary,the money people got their share of SFC,hence the reason why SFC will be playing in the third tier of football next season.
Complete and utter nonsense.You need to believe rubbish like this otherwise you would have to accept the likes of you are responsible for the decline in the club.
Agree with you Dave.
Strachan tells a very different version of 'the truth' and I believe WGS over the rabid fringe's account.
As for the money people getting their share of SFC - they had that to begin with! They were hugely out of pocket following relegation and had the most to gain from getting back up.
As for the reason SFC may be in Div 1 (as a real fan I will not give up until the end) look no further than the people who took over. Why are they not simply buying us out of trouble? Either now or when we still had the parachute payment?
Answer - the money has to come from somewhere!
Where do you suggest?
Posted by: Paul TS, Swanwick on 6:30pm Sat 29 Mar 08
[quote][bold]MACKEYDEE[/bold] wrote:
rupert lowe is a complete and utter [bold]c*nt[/bold] !!!no words can describe how much i hate that man.Just as the team start to show a bit of spirit and commitment he has to come in and stir everything up like a teenage little bi*ch.I HATE HIM!! and guess where Rupert is at the moment? he's on bloody holiday at the most vital part of the season. Shows how much he cares about the current plight of our club.[bold]C*NT!!!!!!![/bold] [/quote] David on. You obviously also like Rupert know nothing about football. I was at the Fulham V Saints game at Loftus Road when Strachan seemingly handed in his notice. Lowe failed to give him the money to keep us in the top tier, I think we were 6th in the premiership on boxing day then he handed his in his notice. With so many clauses that Lowe had in all his 10 ex managers contracts and the pay-offs that were given (no wonder we could never buy decent players and as Lowe always use to say 'We are not a selling club!', he started the rot that we currently have at Saints. He has also yet again added to the split in our fans with such a pathetic and lousy time to disrupt any attempt to even stay in the championship, the man is deluded! Mackeydee, I understand as we all have the frustration you voiced, but please kindly watch the language, it does no favours to any fan using such basic literature and disgusting language!
MACKEYDEE wrote:
rupert lowe is a complete and utter c*nt !!!no words can describe how much i hate that man.Just as the team start to show a bit of spirit and commitment he has to come in and stir everything up like a teenage little bi*ch.I HATE HIM!! and guess where Rupert is at the moment? he's on bloody holiday at the most vital part of the season. Shows how much he cares about the current plight of our club.C*NT!!!!!!!
David on. You obviously also like Rupert know nothing about football. I was at the Fulham V Saints game at Loftus Road when Strachan seemingly handed in his notice. Lowe failed to give him the money to keep us in the top tier, I think we were 6th in the premiership on boxing day then he handed his in his notice. With so many clauses that Lowe had in all his 10 ex managers contracts and the pay-offs that were given (no wonder we could never buy decent players and as Lowe always use to say 'We are not a selling club!', he started the rot that we currently have at Saints. He has also yet again added to the split in our fans with such a pathetic and lousy time to disrupt any attempt to even stay in the championship, the man is deluded! Mackeydee, I understand as we all have the frustration you voiced, but please kindly watch the language, it does no favours to any fan using such basic literature and disgusting language!
Posted by: Andy P, Bitterne on 6:35pm Sat 29 Mar 08
[quote][bold]David[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Andy P[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]gedboy[/bold] wrote: So what\'s the accepted truth on why Strachan left?[/quote] Heres the truth gedboy. Gordon Strachan realised that SFC was merely a business to a handfall of shareholders,and unfourtunately football became secondary. Instead of investing money back into the club, and moving upto the next level,the bank balances of those shareholders were far more important than the future of SFC. This come to a head when Strachan wanted funds to buy MALBRONQUE from Fulham. Lowe refused point-blank. Strachan obviously knew then that there was no point in him and his team doing everything possible to establish themselves as a top eight club and duly walked out. And l do not blame him. Since the day Strachan left, the club has gone down at an alarming pace. Football became secondary,the money people got their share of SFC,hence the reason why SFC will be playing in the third tier of football next season. [/quote] Complete and utter nonsense.You need to believe rubbish like this otherwise you would have to accept the likes of you are responsible for the decline in the club.[/quote] You can try and convince yourself as much as you want,this was the reason why Gordon Strachan left SFC,end of!
Heres another fact David.
Football yet again was secondary to the bank balances of the share-holders when Lowe claimed the £3million signing of DROGBA, which had been agreed was to much for the player.
Thats why he was born a farmer, and should die a farmer, because like you he has no football brain whatsoever.
Enjoy your park football next year, l am sure Rupert will get all the publicity that he craves for sat watching park football aided by that ever-present smirk,what a prized pratt.
David wrote:
Andy P wrote: gedboy wrote: So what\'s the accepted truth on why Strachan left?
Heres the truth gedboy. Gordon Strachan realised that SFC was merely a business to a handfall of shareholders,and unfourtunately football became secondary. Instead of investing money back into the club, and moving upto the next level,the bank balances of those shareholders were far more important than the future of SFC. This come to a head when Strachan wanted funds to buy MALBRONQUE from Fulham. Lowe refused point-blank. Strachan obviously knew then that there was no point in him and his team doing everything possible to establish themselves as a top eight club and duly walked out. And l do not blame him. Since the day Strachan left, the club has gone down at an alarming pace. Football became secondary,the money people got their share of SFC,hence the reason why SFC will be playing in the third tier of football next season.
Complete and utter nonsense.You need to believe rubbish like this otherwise you would have to accept the likes of you are responsible for the decline in the club.
You can try and convince yourself as much as you want,this was the reason why Gordon Strachan left SFC,end of!
Heres another fact David.
Football yet again was secondary to the bank balances of the share-holders when Lowe claimed the £3million signing of DROGBA, which had been agreed was to much for the player.
Thats why he was born a farmer, and should die a farmer, because like you he has no football brain whatsoever.
Enjoy your park football next year, l am sure Rupert will get all the publicity that he craves for sat watching park football aided by that ever-present smirk,what a prized pratt.
Posted by: rational on 6:41pm Sat 29 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Andy P[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]David[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Andy P[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]gedboy[/bold] wrote: So what\'s the accepted truth on why Strachan left?[/quote] Heres the truth gedboy. Gordon Strachan realised that SFC was merely a business to a handfall of shareholders,and unfourtunately football became secondary. Instead of investing money back into the club, and moving upto the next level,the bank balances of those shareholders were far more important than the future of SFC. This come to a head when Strachan wanted funds to buy MALBRONQUE from Fulham. Lowe refused point-blank. Strachan obviously knew then that there was no point in him and his team doing everything possible to establish themselves as a top eight club and duly walked out. And l do not blame him. Since the day Strachan left, the club has gone down at an alarming pace. Football became secondary,the money people got their share of SFC,hence the reason why SFC will be playing in the third tier of football next season. [/quote] Complete and utter nonsense.You need to believe rubbish like this otherwise you would have to accept the likes of you are responsible for the decline in the club.[/quote] You can try and convince yourself as much as you want,this was the reason why Gordon Strachan left SFC,end of! Heres another fact David. Football yet again was secondary to the bank balances of the share-holders when Lowe claimed the £3million signing of DROGBA, which had been agreed was to much for the player. Thats why he was born a farmer, and should die a farmer, because like you he has no football brain whatsoever. Enjoy your park football next year, l am sure Rupert will get all the publicity that he craves for sat watching park football aided by that ever-present smirk,what a prized pratt. [/quote] No, not 'end of'.
GS tells it very different.
Also, when Burley called him and asked his opinion of working for Lowe, Strachan sang his praises, and has continued to do so in print.
I have never seen anything in print to the contrary (other than posts on message boards).
Andy P wrote:
David wrote: Andy P wrote: gedboy wrote: So what\'s the accepted truth on why Strachan left?
Heres the truth gedboy. Gordon Strachan realised that SFC was merely a business to a handfall of shareholders,and unfourtunately football became secondary. Instead of investing money back into the club, and moving upto the next level,the bank balances of those shareholders were far more important than the future of SFC. This come to a head when Strachan wanted funds to buy MALBRONQUE from Fulham. Lowe refused point-blank. Strachan obviously knew then that there was no point in him and his team doing everything possible to establish themselves as a top eight club and duly walked out. And l do not blame him. Since the day Strachan left, the club has gone down at an alarming pace. Football became secondary,the money people got their share of SFC,hence the reason why SFC will be playing in the third tier of football next season.
Complete and utter nonsense.You need to believe rubbish like this otherwise you would have to accept the likes of you are responsible for the decline in the club.
You can try and convince yourself as much as you want,this was the reason why Gordon Strachan left SFC,end of! Heres another fact David. Football yet again was secondary to the bank balances of the share-holders when Lowe claimed the £3million signing of DROGBA, which had been agreed was to much for the player. Thats why he was born a farmer, and should die a farmer, because like you he has no football brain whatsoever. Enjoy your park football next year, l am sure Rupert will get all the publicity that he craves for sat watching park football aided by that ever-present smirk,what a prized pratt.
No, not 'end of'.
GS tells it very different.
Also, when Burley called him and asked his opinion of working for Lowe, Strachan sang his praises, and has continued to do so in print.
I have never seen anything in print to the contrary (other than posts on message boards).
Posted by: Graham Hepburn, chandlers Ford on 6:55pm Sat 29 Mar 08
There is no way I am going to renew my season ticket if Lowe is going to be back in charge. I boycotted the club once to get rid of him and will do so again, next season, if he attempts this come back. I would urge every other true Saints fan to do the same.In my opinion he is responsible for where we are now. Well done, Lowe. That's £380 you have cost the club already.
There is no way I am going to renew my season ticket if Lowe is going to be back in charge. I boycotted the club once to get rid of him and will do so again, next season, if he attempts this come back. I would urge every other true Saints fan to do the same.In my opinion he is responsible for where we are now. Well done, Lowe. That's £380 you have cost the club already.
