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Nigel Pearson will today meet Rupert Lowe and Michael Wilde for the first time as he discusses his future as Saints boss.
Pearson is out of contract this summer and speculation has been raging over whether he will still be in charge when the new campaign kicks off in August.
Lowe and Wilde returned to Saints last week, replacing the likes of Leon Crouch who brought Pearson to the club and who publicly stated he believed he should be retained.
However, Lowe, chairman of the PLC board, and Wilde, chairman of the football board, are now in charge again at St Mary's.
It is clear that no decision appears to have been made by either party as to exactly what direction they will head in.
There are, though, lots of hurdles to overcome - and talks are expected to continue beyond today.
Pearson will have to enter into negotiations over any potential contract with money still at a premium at St Mary's.
If his own salary can be agreed, then there is still the matter of whether he is happy with the direction in which Lowe and Wilde want to push things at St Mary's.
It is also unknown whether Lowe and Wilde consider Pearson to be the right man to deliver the results they want.
Belts look likely to be tightened at St Mary's and, whilst some extra cash is to be put into the academy where it will make a big impact, it is the kind of money that will hardly touch the sides of the first team budget.
Nine players are out of contract this summer - Claus Lundekvam, Chris Makin, Alexander Ostlund, Inigo Idiakez, Darren Powell, Mario Licka, Nathan Dyer, Jermaine Wright and Simon Gillett - and few are expected to be retained.
Full story: See today's Daily Echo.
6:22am Wednesday 21st May 2008
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CommentPosted by: Saint Madcap, Horndean on 7:36am Wed 21 May 08
Good luck Nigel you ARE the man for the job, it's just a question of if those two idiots (who know sweet FA about football) can see it.
The other factor of course is whether you can work with a couple of two faced liars!
Good luck Nigel you ARE the man for the job, it's just a question of if those two idiots (who know sweet FA about football) can see it.
The other factor of course is whether you can work with a couple of two faced liars!
Posted by: Mike Needle, Southampton/Lordswoo
d on 7:39am Wed 21 May 08
Sorry to say but it looks like yet another season where we will under achieve.
We are told that Southampton would be a great club to buy as it has everything anyone would like in a club yet every year we go over the same old things why if we look that good to anyone looking to buy into the business!! Why are we still no nearer to someone coming into Southampton?
It is clear that with out some big money backing we will be an "as been" club living on our past.
Lowe is only there for himself not for the football club, and the fans, my other worry is if we do manage to get back to the top flight what would happen! I cannot see us able to mount a challenge in this division never mind the premiership.
Sorry to say but it looks like yet another season where we will under achieve.
We are told that Southampton would be a great club to buy as it has everything anyone would like in a club yet every year we go over the same old things why if we look that good to anyone looking to buy into the business!! Why are we still no nearer to someone coming into Southampton?
It is clear that with out some big money backing we will be an "as been" club living on our past.
Lowe is only there for himself not for the football club, and the fans, my other worry is if we do manage to get back to the top flight what would happen! I cannot see us able to mount a challenge in this division never mind the premiership.
Posted by: Andy Welsh, Sudbury on 7:43am Wed 21 May 08
Pearson will stay as it suits both sides. For Lowe and Wilde he's a cheap option and Lowe has never been scared to go for potential. Remember it got us relegated! Pearson hardly has an impressive current CV to find another manager's job. As to the out of contract players, none would appear to be essential to the club's future. Worry more about the players we do have under contract.
Pearson will stay as it suits both sides. For Lowe and Wilde he's a cheap option and Lowe has never been scared to go for potential. Remember it got us relegated! Pearson hardly has an impressive current CV to find another manager's job. As to the out of contract players, none would appear to be essential to the club's future. Worry more about the players we do have under contract.
Posted by: positive saint, Southampton on 7:45am Wed 21 May 08
Nigel Pearson has done a great job since taking over and although i had my doubts he is a great manager. He had the players believing that they could stay up, and when we were 2-0 or 3-0 down he would go out on that touchline and go mad at them and thats what we need. GB always just stood there with his arms crossed and tried to be calm but Pearson tells the players when theyre doing **** and he doesnt take the crap. Like the BWP and Nathan Dyer situation he placed the biggest punishment he could on them and that shows that hes a disciplined manager. For Wilde and Lowe to not renew his contract would be a very bad decision and i really hope that we get him long term.
Nigel Pearson has done a great job since taking over and although i had my doubts he is a great manager. He had the players believing that they could stay up, and when we were 2-0 or 3-0 down he would go out on that touchline and go mad at them and thats what we need. GB always just stood there with his arms crossed and tried to be calm but Pearson tells the players when theyre doing **** and he doesnt take the crap. Like the BWP and Nathan Dyer situation he placed the biggest punishment he could on them and that shows that hes a disciplined manager. For Wilde and Lowe to not renew his contract would be a very bad decision and i really hope that we get him long term.
Posted by: sainthog7, her&now on 7:52am Wed 21 May 08
O DEAR mr lowe takes his cut sips his sherry tells Nigel things are tight now because hes got to have his slice to pay for his dinner party for his chums + askham(the branfoot man) & it will be taxi for MR PEARSON mr lowe brings in a yes man & the puppet show is ready to kick off next season god help us HATE THE BOARD & SUPPORT THE SAINTS
O DEAR mr lowe takes his cut sips his sherry tells Nigel things are tight now because hes got to have his slice to pay for his dinner party for his chums + askham(the branfoot man) & it will be taxi for MR PEARSON mr lowe brings in a yes man & the puppet show is ready to kick off next season god help us HATE THE BOARD & SUPPORT THE SAINTS
Posted by: John B, Bitterne on 8:02am Wed 21 May 08
[quote][bold]sainthog7[/bold] wrote:
O DEAR mr lowe takes his cut sips his sherry tells Nigel things are tight now because hes got to have his slice to pay for his dinner party for his chums + askham(the branfoot man) & it will be taxi for MR PEARSON mr lowe brings in a yes man & the puppet show is ready to kick off next season god help us HATE THE BOARD & SUPPORT THE SAINTS[/quote] Rather a bitter and twisted view.
Mr Lowe may appear to be arrogant and a bit of a toff but we need him to make the correct decisions and he need's our support otherwise we could go into administration and have to sell off our assetts
sainthog7 wrote:
O DEAR mr lowe takes his cut sips his sherry tells Nigel things are tight now because hes got to have his slice to pay for his dinner party for his chums + askham(the branfoot man) & it will be taxi for MR PEARSON mr lowe brings in a yes man & the puppet show is ready to kick off next season god help us HATE THE BOARD & SUPPORT THE SAINTS
Rather a bitter and twisted view.
Mr Lowe may appear to be arrogant and a bit of a toff but we need him to make the correct decisions and he need's our support otherwise we could go into administration and have to sell off our assetts
Posted by: darren thomas, bursledon on 8:07am Wed 21 May 08
crew657 when will you realise that your the biggest scum that posts on here. all fans such as yourself from portsmouth are classed as scum because it is what you are. now go and do one
crew657 when will you realise that your the biggest scum that posts on here. all fans such as yourself from portsmouth are classed as scum because it is what you are. now go and do one
Posted by: jt, soton on 8:37am Wed 21 May 08
mr.lowe what do you expect the average working class supporter to invest in this season? could it be hard earned money gained from working all week then spent on a season ticket to come and watch their beloved saints.orhow about a family of say 4 how much will they spend? but we will spend because this is our team.mr .lowe you expect us to invest so come on how much are you willing to cough up.
mr.lowe what do you expect the average working class supporter to invest in this season? could it be hard earned money gained from working all week then spent on a season ticket to come and watch their beloved saints.orhow about a family of say 4 how much will they spend? but we will spend because this is our team.mr .lowe you expect us to invest so come on how much are you willing to cough up.
Posted by: Jesus_02, Kingsland on 8:38am Wed 21 May 08
This story is just a feed from the Lowe/Wilde camp.
An attempt to prepare us for the fact that Pearson will not be offered a contract. What sort of manager will be cheaper?
Of those players out of contract this summer I think that it would be fool hardy not to offer Licka, and possibly Ostland a contract. It would be akin to crushing your car to save petrol, then getting a taxi every day (we still have to pay loan player wages!!)
This story is just a feed from the Lowe/Wilde camp.
An attempt to prepare us for the fact that Pearson will not be offered a contract. What sort of manager will be cheaper?
Of those players out of contract this summer I think that it would be fool hardy not to offer Licka, and possibly Ostland a contract. It would be akin to crushing your car to save petrol, then getting a taxi every day (we still have to pay loan player wages!!)
Posted by: Jung, Somewhere around on 8:41am Wed 21 May 08
"It is also unknown whether Lowe and Wilde consider Pearson to be the right man to deliver the results they want".
"Belts look likely to be tightened at St Mary's".
The only direction our current economy might bring us is nowhere, and i`m starting to wonder what kind of results the two goblins Lowe and Wilde could demand from any manager. If Pearsons got any kind of social intelligence and personal ambition, he`ll be out of St.Marys before midnight!
"It is also unknown whether Lowe and Wilde consider Pearson to be the right man to deliver the results they want".
"Belts look likely to be tightened at St Mary's".
The only direction our current economy might bring us is nowhere, and i`m starting to wonder what kind of results the two goblins Lowe and Wilde could demand from any manager. If Pearsons got any kind of social intelligence and personal ambition, he`ll be out of St.Marys before midnight!
Posted by: Richie, Iraq on 8:42am Wed 21 May 08
crew657 - if you are really such a hard football hooligan why do you only ever gob off on a Saints page in the local newspaper ????? It amazes me that less than a week after winning the FA Cup all you want to do is act the hardman instead of celebrating your success. I bet the skates are really proud to list you as a fan.
crew657 - if you are really such a hard football hooligan why do you only ever gob off on a Saints page in the local newspaper ????? It amazes me that less than a week after winning the FA Cup all you want to do is act the hardman instead of celebrating your success. I bet the skates are really proud to list you as a fan.
Posted by: True Blue, Fareham on 8:54am Wed 21 May 08
I do hope that Mr Lowe and Mr Wilde consult with Nick Illingsworth before he decides whether to offer Nigel Pearson a contract.
They need his assurance that all the fans he represents are fully behind the manager.
I do hope that Mr Lowe and Mr Wilde consult with Nick Illingsworth before he decides whether to offer Nigel Pearson a contract.
They need his assurance that all the fans he represents are fully behind the manager.
Posted by: Ollie on 8:56am Wed 21 May 08
Anyone else heard the rumour about Lowe being after Sam Allardyce to replace Pearson?
Anyone else heard the rumour about Lowe being after Sam Allardyce to replace Pearson?
Posted by: costa mike, Alicante on 9:00am Wed 21 May 08
[quote][bold]crew657[/bold] wrote:
STAINS TO MOVE GROUND A two fold plan has emerged to change the fortunes of saints. Firstly SMS will be sold to Pompey (for use as their training ground) bringing in money for players, and Saints will move to the recreation park in Millbrook which has 2 advantages, it has the capacity for the numbe of true scum fans (about 70) and also stinks to high heaven so the scum fans will feel at home in the milbbrook cespit and cowardly environment[/quote] LOL LOL LOL
What an idiot.Pompey struggled to sell 17,5000 tickets for most of their home games last season in their best season for 50 years.We averaged about 23,000 in our worst season for 50 years.You only had 3,000 at Notarf Krap to greet your heroes home the other night.What a pathetic tiny club you are with a load of jcl mockney worzel supporters.
AN ABSOLUTE JOKE!
crew657 wrote:
STAINS TO MOVE GROUND A two fold plan has emerged to change the fortunes of saints. Firstly SMS will be sold to Pompey (for use as their training ground) bringing in money for players, and Saints will move to the recreation park in Millbrook which has 2 advantages, it has the capacity for the numbe of true scum fans (about 70) and also stinks to high heaven so the scum fans will feel at home in the milbbrook cespit and cowardly environment
LOL LOL LOL
What an idiot.Pompey struggled to sell 17,5000 tickets for most of their home games last season in their best season for 50 years.We averaged about 23,000 in our worst season for 50 years.You only had 3,000 at Notarf Krap to greet your heroes home the other night.What a pathetic tiny club you are with a load of jcl mockney worzel supporters.
AN ABSOLUTE JOKE!
Posted by: Red Saint on 9:01am Wed 21 May 08
[quote][bold]Ollie[/bold] wrote:
Anyone else heard the rumour about Lowe being after Sam Allardyce to replace Pearson?[/quote] Yeh ive heard that rumour although it makes no sense. We need to tighten our belts so we go and bring in a manager who would want a premier league wage. We've already got a manager who can take us up given time.
Ollie wrote:
Anyone else heard the rumour about Lowe being after Sam Allardyce to replace Pearson?
Yeh ive heard that rumour although it makes no sense. We need to tighten our belts so we go and bring in a manager who would want a premier league wage. We've already got a manager who can take us up given time.
Posted by: costa mike, Alicante on 9:02am Wed 21 May 08
[quote][bold]Ollie[/bold] wrote:
Anyone else heard the rumour about Lowe being after Sam Allardyce to replace Pearson?[/quote] Allardyce would be too expensive for Lowe (who only pays himself big money) and wouldn't work for such an interfering idiot of a chairman.
Ollie wrote:
Anyone else heard the rumour about Lowe being after Sam Allardyce to replace Pearson?
Allardyce would be too expensive for Lowe (who only pays himself big money) and wouldn't work for such an interfering idiot of a chairman.
Posted by: Pete, Woolston on 9:03am Wed 21 May 08
[quote][bold]True Blue[/bold] wrote:
I do hope that Mr Lowe and Mr Wilde consult with Nick Illingsworth before he decides whether to offer Nigel Pearson a contract. They need his assurance that all the fans he represents are fully behind the manager. [/quote] I heard that Illingsworth has been given the position of fan's consultant, with a small salary. Anyone else heard this news?
True Blue wrote:
I do hope that Mr Lowe and Mr Wilde consult with Nick Illingsworth before he decides whether to offer Nigel Pearson a contract. They need his assurance that all the fans he represents are fully behind the manager.
I heard that Illingsworth has been given the position of fan's consultant, with a small salary. Anyone else heard this news?
Posted by: Phil, Downton on 9:14am Wed 21 May 08
I was never against Rupert Lowe during his previos realm as he got two of the three critical things in his time correct. The stadium and the academy, brilliant. The third and unfortunately the most important he got wrong, he failed to keep the club in the Premier. He failed by changing managers too often creating instability and a high turnover of players and in not investing heavily in the final season when the writing was on the wall. It is all Ifs and Buts however the fact is that no good Manger wanted to stay for the long term, ie Strachan or Hoddle, a good manager like Dave Jones was treated terribly. Anyone of these three if they had stayed would probably have built saints to a strong mid table side always fighting for a 5th or 6th place. Rupert fired the other managers he appointed. He must have thought Gray, Wigley, Sturrock had the qualities needed but was proven very wrong very quickly and at a very high price for all true saints. Mistakes he never seemed to acknowledge or learn from.
Ruperts track record in hiring new managers is awful, even when he gets a good one he cannot keep them. My advice to Rupert is let someone else interview and appoint the manager on your behalf. Someone who understands the game, Saints and our current plight. I suggest you ask Jimmy Case and Dave Merrington to hire the manager, tell them the terms and conditions that saints can afford and let them get on with it. If Nigel Pearson is the right man then let them confirm it. I believe he deserves a chance but I am just a season ticket holding saints fan, I am not the expert, let the experts decide but Rupert is no expert!!.
As for Michael Wilde, he knows nothing more than anyone else like me who watches Saints every week. He lied to get rid of Rupert, he appointed a team of Executives who bled the club dry, tried to sell it on the cheap and who seemed to actually enjoy the demise of the saints. He never put a penny in to the club despite his promises. I do not think he has any credibility whatsoever so he should have absolutely no say in the appointment of the manager or anything else related to saints other than the dividends his shares might one day generate.
If Lowe and Wilde were ever in doubt about the passion we all feel for saints then the support during the Sheff Utd game and the scenes folowing the final whistle must surley be a pretty clear indication. Rupert , you saw it with your own eyes!! Michael, I assume someone showed you pictures!!! Please Gentlemen, do not mess with our club, do not mess with our feelings. It is a disgrace that once again you feel supporters no longer matter despite your appeals for support (our money). The fact that during this critical period the only note on the website is that Chris Makin now supports Man Utd sums up for me your lack of respect for supporters desperate for news on developments.!! They say Leopards never change etc,, I pray you two have changed but I am not holding my breath.
I was never against Rupert Lowe during his previos realm as he got two of the three critical things in his time correct. The stadium and the academy, brilliant. The third and unfortunately the most important he got wrong, he failed to keep the club in the Premier. He failed by changing managers too often creating instability and a high turnover of players and in not investing heavily in the final season when the writing was on the wall. It is all Ifs and Buts however the fact is that no good Manger wanted to stay for the long term, ie Strachan or Hoddle, a good manager like Dave Jones was treated terribly. Anyone of these three if they had stayed would probably have built saints to a strong mid table side always fighting for a 5th or 6th place. Rupert fired the other managers he appointed. He must have thought Gray, Wigley, Sturrock had the qualities needed but was proven very wrong very quickly and at a very high price for all true saints. Mistakes he never seemed to acknowledge or learn from.
Ruperts track record in hiring new managers is awful, even when he gets a good one he cannot keep them. My advice to Rupert is let someone else interview and appoint the manager on your behalf. Someone who understands the game, Saints and our current plight. I suggest you ask Jimmy Case and Dave Merrington to hire the manager, tell them the terms and conditions that saints can afford and let them get on with it. If Nigel Pearson is the right man then let them confirm it. I believe he deserves a chance but I am just a season ticket holding saints fan, I am not the expert, let the experts decide but Rupert is no expert!!.
As for Michael Wilde, he knows nothing more than anyone else like me who watches Saints every week. He lied to get rid of Rupert, he appointed a team of Executives who bled the club dry, tried to sell it on the cheap and who seemed to actually enjoy the demise of the saints. He never put a penny in to the club despite his promises. I do not think he has any credibility whatsoever so he should have absolutely no say in the appointment of the manager or anything else related to saints other than the dividends his shares might one day generate.
If Lowe and Wilde were ever in doubt about the passion we all feel for saints then the support during the Sheff Utd game and the scenes folowing the final whistle must surley be a pretty clear indication. Rupert , you saw it with your own eyes!! Michael, I assume someone showed you pictures!!! Please Gentlemen, do not mess with our club, do not mess with our feelings. It is a disgrace that once again you feel supporters no longer matter despite your appeals for support (our money). The fact that during this critical period the only note on the website is that Chris Makin now supports Man Utd sums up for me your lack of respect for supporters desperate for news on developments.!! They say Leopards never change etc,, I pray you two have changed but I am not holding my breath.
Posted by: Kdog, St. Mayrs on 9:23am Wed 21 May 08
Lowe out, Lowe out. I personally will not be happy until that man has servered all links with our club. He is a one man disaster zone and I will not forget who has put us in this position in the first place with a series of shocking decisions. Lowe out Lowe Out
Lowe out, Lowe out. I personally will not be happy until that man has servered all links with our club. He is a one man disaster zone and I will not forget who has put us in this position in the first place with a series of shocking decisions. Lowe out Lowe Out
Posted by: E.B.O.L, universal hall on 9:24am Wed 21 May 08
Just read the echo article. just goes to prove what crab they print. they should check their facts before going to print,
Claus out of contract in the summer. bloody hell and theres me thinking he retired due to injury somebody is lying and it aint me.
Just read the echo article. just goes to prove what crab they print. they should check their facts before going to print,
Claus out of contract in the summer. bloody hell and theres me thinking he retired due to injury somebody is lying and it aint me.
Posted by: Respect, Reality on 9:31am Wed 21 May 08
Hi Billy. With regard to our previous exchange on football tribal rituals! My point being that this said moron crew657 is not a supporter of any football team. He is a saddo who sits in a little darkened room sending posts to a Southampton Site. Leave him alone and he will go away (we all hope). Even sadder is that The Echo will delete this post, but allow creww657 to post abusive and moronic rants that he knows are only hot air and a little boys fantasies!! COYR!!!!!
Hi Billy. With regard to our previous exchange on football tribal rituals! My point being that this said moron crew657 is not a supporter of any football team. He is a saddo who sits in a little darkened room sending posts to a Southampton Site. Leave him alone and he will go away (we all hope). Even sadder is that The Echo will delete this post, but allow creww657 to post abusive and moronic rants that he knows are only hot air and a little boys fantasies!! COYR!!!!!
Posted by: Lowe Out on 9:32am Wed 21 May 08
Finance would of been the key whoever was running SFC.
[bold]LOWE & WILDE OUT[/bold]
Finance would of been the key whoever was running SFC.
LOWE & WILDE OUT Posted by: crew657 on 9:46am Wed 21 May 08
I was in the sas..... we did needle work and cooking and in the afternoon we watched a movie, so there
I was in the sas..... we did needle work and cooking and in the afternoon we watched a movie, so there
Posted by: Mike, Southampton on 9:56am Wed 21 May 08
[quote][bold]costa mike[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]crew657[/bold] wrote: STAINS TO MOVE GROUND A two fold plan has emerged to change the fortunes of saints. Firstly SMS will be sold to Pompey (for use as their training ground) bringing in money for players, and Saints will move to the recreation park in Millbrook which has 2 advantages, it has the capacity for the numbe of true scum fans (about 70) and also stinks to high heaven so the scum fans will feel at home in the milbbrook cespit and cowardly environment[/quote] LOL LOL LOL What an idiot.Pompey struggled to sell 17,5000 tickets for most of their home games last season in their best season for 50 years.We averaged about 23,000 in our worst season for 50 years.You only had 3,000 at Notarf Krap to greet your heroes home the other night.What a pathetic tiny club you are with a load of jcl mockney worzel supporters. AN ABSOLUTE JOKE![/quote] As shown on Sky Sports news over the last few days. Skates average attendance - 17,200.
Saints average attendance 21,700.
Says a lot i think!
costa mike wrote:
crew657 wrote: STAINS TO MOVE GROUND A two fold plan has emerged to change the fortunes of saints. Firstly SMS will be sold to Pompey (for use as their training ground) bringing in money for players, and Saints will move to the recreation park in Millbrook which has 2 advantages, it has the capacity for the numbe of true scum fans (about 70) and also stinks to high heaven so the scum fans will feel at home in the milbbrook cespit and cowardly environment
LOL LOL LOL What an idiot.Pompey struggled to sell 17,5000 tickets for most of their home games last season in their best season for 50 years.We averaged about 23,000 in our worst season for 50 years.You only had 3,000 at Notarf Krap to greet your heroes home the other night.What a pathetic tiny club you are with a load of jcl mockney worzel supporters. AN ABSOLUTE JOKE!
As shown on Sky Sports news over the last few days. Skates average attendance - 17,200.
Saints average attendance 21,700.
Says a lot i think!
Posted by: Nev, Southampton on 10:00am Wed 21 May 08
I think NP has done a great job and you could see him kicking every ball and pulling the team along by the short and curlys - however, in order to oull in investment you need to sell the dream of a return to the prem. If i had the millions to spend id want a more experianced safer pair of hands involved, even in a director of football type role and i think thats what Lowe could go for. Lets be fair to lowe - he gave us a new stadium and finacial stability for a long time. His vision was to lift the club to a different level by using sports science and world beaters such as Clive Woodward - from what i know Redknapp was the key reason that set up failed. Lowe has had his fingers burnt over mangement selection too many time to take another risk now, nor does he want to upset the fans from the start. I think what is key is that we are all behind the club, including the Board and pray...lots !!!
I think NP has done a great job and you could see him kicking every ball and pulling the team along by the short and curlys - however, in order to oull in investment you need to sell the dream of a return to the prem. If i had the millions to spend id want a more experianced safer pair of hands involved, even in a director of football type role and i think thats what Lowe could go for. Lets be fair to lowe - he gave us a new stadium and finacial stability for a long time. His vision was to lift the club to a different level by using sports science and world beaters such as Clive Woodward - from what i know Redknapp was the key reason that set up failed. Lowe has had his fingers burnt over mangement selection too many time to take another risk now, nor does he want to upset the fans from the start. I think what is key is that we are all behind the club, including the Board and pray...lots !!!
Posted by: Fred, Southampton on 10:21am Wed 21 May 08
Ever since the Lowe-Wilde axis swung back into town I have been filled with dread.
The outcome of the meeting with Nigel Pearson will give some indication. really only the first, of what they see as the immediate future for the Club.
We have a manger with relatively little experience but a track record here of sorting out a mess left by an ineffective drinker who failed to motivate (well done the Scottish FA... and thanks again!).
At least Nigel gave the younger players a chance, he saw the glaring weaknesses in goal and central defence and did something about it.
If the two jokers now in charge cannot see that then I am afraid the fat lady needs to start singing again.
Ever since the Lowe-Wilde axis swung back into town I have been filled with dread.
The outcome of the meeting with Nigel Pearson will give some indication. really only the first, of what they see as the immediate future for the Club.
We have a manger with relatively little experience but a track record here of sorting out a mess left by an ineffective drinker who failed to motivate (well done the Scottish FA... and thanks again!).
At least Nigel gave the younger players a chance, he saw the glaring weaknesses in goal and central defence and did something about it.
If the two jokers now in charge cannot see that then I am afraid the fat lady needs to start singing again.
Posted by: Shaun Tew, Southampton on 10:22am Wed 21 May 08
I dont think we need to worry about Lowe he will not be in charge for long.... The Club is about to be bought a firm offer is on the table today. Lowe and Wilde are only back to make sure they and their proxy share holders have an input to the final deal.The Club will be under new stewardship at the start of the new season. Lets start to look forward to a new beginning at St Marys and lets look forward to sweeping all of the present useless idiots away from our great club.
I dont think we need to worry about Lowe he will not be in charge for long.... The Club is about to be bought a firm offer is on the table today. Lowe and Wilde are only back to make sure they and their proxy share holders have an input to the final deal.The Club will be under new stewardship at the start of the new season. Lets start to look forward to a new beginning at St Marys and lets look forward to sweeping all of the present useless idiots away from our great club.
Posted by: allsaintsnocurves, southampton on 10:22am Wed 21 May 08
Of all those players listed who are out of contract...including the 2 who have already retired! I would only try and keep Dyer. He has pace and I'm sure Pearson can nurture and get the best out of him.
The rest are a waste of space...Licka might be worth a punt again if he is cheap but the rest will free up space for some of our youngsters to come through the ranks. We still need a decent right back so that would be an area to strengthen and we could do with some more experienced central midfielders...someon
e who can pass and control the tempo of a game.
We need a team that can slow a game down when we are winning and raise the tempo when we are chasing a game. How many goals have we conceaded so soon after scoring ourselves!
Lancashire and Davies will be a great centreback partnership...but I hope we can get Wright back in goal for the whole season!
Of all those players listed who are out of contract...including the 2 who have already retired! I would only try and keep Dyer. He has pace and I'm sure Pearson can nurture and get the best out of him.
The rest are a waste of space...Licka might be worth a punt again if he is cheap but the rest will free up space for some of our youngsters to come through the ranks. We still need a decent right back so that would be an area to strengthen and we could do with some more experienced central midfielders...someon
e who can pass and control the tempo of a game.
We need a team that can slow a game down when we are winning and raise the tempo when we are chasing a game. How many goals have we conceaded so soon after scoring ourselves!
Lancashire and Davies will be a great centreback partnership...but I hope we can get Wright back in goal for the whole season!
Posted by: allsaintsnocurves, southampton on 10:24am Wed 21 May 08
Of all those players listed who are out of contract...including the 2 who have already retired! I would only try and keep Dyer. He has pace and I'm sure Pearson can nurture and get the best out of him.
The rest are a waste of space...Licka might be worth a punt again if he is cheap but the rest will free up space for some of our youngsters to come through the ranks. We still need a decent right back so that would be an area to strengthen and we could do with some more experienced central midfielders...someon
e who can pass and control the tempo of a game.
We need a team that can slow a game down when we are winning and raise the tempo when we are chasing a game. How many goals have we conceaded so soon after scoring ourselves!
Lancashire and Davies will be a great centreback partnership...but I hope we can get Wright back in goal for the whole season!
Of all those players listed who are out of contract...including the 2 who have already retired! I would only try and keep Dyer. He has pace and I'm sure Pearson can nurture and get the best out of him.
The rest are a waste of space...Licka might be worth a punt again if he is cheap but the rest will free up space for some of our youngsters to come through the ranks. We still need a decent right back so that would be an area to strengthen and we could do with some more experienced central midfielders...someon
e who can pass and control the tempo of a game.
We need a team that can slow a game down when we are winning and raise the tempo when we are chasing a game. How many goals have we conceaded so soon after scoring ourselves!
Lancashire and Davies will be a great centreback partnership...but I hope we can get Wright back in goal for the whole season!
Posted by: Al on 10:28am Wed 21 May 08
[quote][bold]allsaintsnocurves[/bold] wrote:
Of all those players listed who are out of contract...including the 2 who have already retired! I would only try and keep Dyer. He has pace and I'm sure Pearson can nurture and get the best out of him. The rest are a waste of space...Licka might be worth a punt again if he is cheap but the rest will free up space for some of our youngsters to come through the ranks. We still need a decent right back so that would be an area to strengthen and we could do with some more experienced central midfielders...someon e who can pass and control the tempo of a game. We need a team that can slow a game down when we are winning and raise the tempo when we are chasing a game. How many goals have we conceaded so soon after scoring ourselves! Lancashire and Davies will be a great centreback partnership...but I hope we can get Wright back in goal for the whole season![/quote] I'd pretty much agree with this, although I am a big fan of Inigo Idiakez, he's probably the best set peice man we have and he is experianced,skilled and imaginative
allsaintsnocurves wrote:
Of all those players listed who are out of contract...including the 2 who have already retired! I would only try and keep Dyer. He has pace and I'm sure Pearson can nurture and get the best out of him. The rest are a waste of space...Licka might be worth a punt again if he is cheap but the rest will free up space for some of our youngsters to come through the ranks. We still need a decent right back so that would be an area to strengthen and we could do with some more experienced central midfielders...someon e who can pass and control the tempo of a game. We need a team that can slow a game down when we are winning and raise the tempo when we are chasing a game. How many goals have we conceaded so soon after scoring ourselves! Lancashire and Davies will be a great centreback partnership...but I hope we can get Wright back in goal for the whole season!
I'd pretty much agree with this, although I am a big fan of Inigo Idiakez, he's probably the best set peice man we have and he is experianced,skilled and imaginative
Posted by: Ric Flair on 10:36am Wed 21 May 08
Get Lowe out
Posted by: billy 2 baps on 10:55am Wed 21 May 08
[quote][bold]Respect[/bold] wrote:
Hi Billy. With regard to our previous exchange on football tribal rituals! My point being that this said moron crew657 is not a supporter of any football team. He is a saddo who sits in a little darkened room sending posts to a Southampton Site. Leave him alone and he will go away (we all hope). Even sadder is that The Echo will delete this post, but allow creww657 to post abusive and moronic rants that he knows are only hot air and a little boys fantasies!! COYR!!!!![/quote] An very good point made Respect
Respect wrote:
Hi Billy. With regard to our previous exchange on football tribal rituals! My point being that this said moron crew657 is not a supporter of any football team. He is a saddo who sits in a little darkened room sending posts to a Southampton Site. Leave him alone and he will go away (we all hope). Even sadder is that The Echo will delete this post, but allow creww657 to post abusive and moronic rants that he knows are only hot air and a little boys fantasies!! COYR!!!!!
An very good point made Respect
Posted by: allsaintsnocurves, southampton on 11:12am Wed 21 May 08
[quote][bold]Al[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]allsaintsnocurves[/bold] wrote: Of all those players listed who are out of contract...including the 2 who have already retired! I would only try and keep Dyer. He has pace and I\'m sure Pearson can nurture and get the best out of him. The rest are a waste of space...Licka might be worth a punt again if he is cheap but the rest will free up space for some of our youngsters to come through the ranks. We still need a decent right back so that would be an area to strengthen and we could do with some more experienced central midfielders...someon e who can pass and control the tempo of a game. We need a team that can slow a game down when we are winning and raise the tempo when we are chasing a game. How many goals have we conceaded so soon after scoring ourselves! Lancashire and Davies will be a great centreback partnership...but I hope we can get Wright back in goal for the whole season![/quote] I\'d pretty much agree with this, although I am a big fan of Inigo Idiakez, he\'s probably the best set peice man we have and he is experianced,skilled and imaginative[/quote] Well he hasn't been that great at set pieces not as much as we'd hoped. Not in the class of Bale or Le Tiss. Plus he's getting old and we need legs in the midfield..and he's probably on a high salary...unless this can be negotiated so he takes a pay cut to sign on.
Al wrote:
allsaintsnocurves wrote: Of all those players listed who are out of contract...including the 2 who have already retired! I would only try and keep Dyer. He has pace and I\'m sure Pearson can nurture and get the best out of him. The rest are a waste of space...Licka might be worth a punt again if he is cheap but the rest will free up space for some of our youngsters to come through the ranks. We still need a decent right back so that would be an area to strengthen and we could do with some more experienced central midfielders...someon e who can pass and control the tempo of a game. We need a team that can slow a game down when we are winning and raise the tempo when we are chasing a game. How many goals have we conceaded so soon after scoring ourselves! Lancashire and Davies will be a great centreback partnership...but I hope we can get Wright back in goal for the whole season!
I\'d pretty much agree with this, although I am a big fan of Inigo Idiakez, he\'s probably the best set peice man we have and he is experianced,skilled and imaginative
Well he hasn't been that great at set pieces not as much as we'd hoped. Not in the class of Bale or Le Tiss. Plus he's getting old and we need legs in the midfield..and he's probably on a high salary...unless this can be negotiated so he takes a pay cut to sign on.
Posted by: allsaintsnocurves, southampton on 11:22am Wed 21 May 08
The reports in the Mirror about Big Sam being Lowe's number 1 in my opinion would be a mistake. He would only use us a stepping stone if he did take us on, as he is settled up north. Pearson however, could be a manager we could have for a long time...I for one would be proud if we stuck by him and he made his name as a manager with us rather than a manager who already has had success in management. Sam was successful but had a large team of people working with him so it is not a foregone conclusion that he will be successful with Saints.
The reports in the Mirror about Big Sam being Lowe's number 1 in my opinion would be a mistake. He would only use us a stepping stone if he did take us on, as he is settled up north. Pearson however, could be a manager we could have for a long time...I for one would be proud if we stuck by him and he made his name as a manager with us rather than a manager who already has had success in management. Sam was successful but had a large team of people working with him so it is not a foregone conclusion that he will be successful with Saints.
Posted by: Nev, Southampton on 11:25am Wed 21 May 08
It will also be interesting to see what happens to Rasiak and Rudi... to be honest i hope they both go as clearly there chances of playing in euro 08 was a bigger priority to them than keeping Saints up!... As for those out of contract - keep Dyer and let the others go. I like Idiakez, but i think we need a fresh higher paced midfield to push us forward this year...
It will also be interesting to see what happens to Rasiak and Rudi... to be honest i hope they both go as clearly there chances of playing in euro 08 was a bigger priority to them than keeping Saints up!... As for those out of contract - keep Dyer and let the others go. I like Idiakez, but i think we need a fresh higher paced midfield to push us forward this year...
Posted by: exmouth saint on 11:26am Wed 21 May 08
[quote][bold]Shaun Tew[/bold] wrote:
I dont think we need to worry about Lowe he will not be in charge for long.... The Club is about to be bought a firm offer is on the table today. Lowe and Wilde are only back to make sure they and their proxy share holders have an input to the final deal.The Club will be under new stewardship at the start of the new season. Lets start to look forward to a new beginning at St Marys and lets look forward to sweeping all of the present useless idiots away from our great club. [/quote] ye pigs might fly and all. I've lost count of how many rumours of buyers, rich sugar daddys, heavy investment to last a lifetime
Shaun Tew wrote:
I dont think we need to worry about Lowe he will not be in charge for long.... The Club is about to be bought a firm offer is on the table today. Lowe and Wilde are only back to make sure they and their proxy share holders have an input to the final deal.The Club will be under new stewardship at the start of the new season. Lets start to look forward to a new beginning at St Marys and lets look forward to sweeping all of the present useless idiots away from our great club.
ye pigs might fly and all. I've lost count of how many rumours of buyers, rich sugar daddys, heavy investment to last a lifetime
Posted by: mark w, tooting on 11:32am Wed 21 May 08
yup that's right allsaintsnocurves. allardyce would continue the destructive trend of hopping on the sfc managerial moneygoround for a season or so. pearson needs a 4-year contract with a brief to make the playoffs inside two seasons. that may seem a long way off, but that is our reality given that we only just evaded dropping into the abyss... money spent on fat sam's salary would be better invested in a quality, creative midfielder
yup that's right allsaintsnocurves. allardyce would continue the destructive trend of hopping on the sfc managerial moneygoround for a season or so. pearson needs a 4-year contract with a brief to make the playoffs inside two seasons. that may seem a long way off, but that is our reality given that we only just evaded dropping into the abyss... money spent on fat sam's salary would be better invested in a quality, creative midfielder
Posted by: mark w, tooting on 11:36am Wed 21 May 08
ironic that rasiak didnt make the polish squad and saga did... there's justice!
ironic that rasiak didnt make the polish squad and saga did... there's justice!
Posted by: Shirleymush on 12:45pm Wed 21 May 08
In all seriousness, can we afford [italic]italic[/italic] not[italic]italic[/italic] to keep Pearson? Who else, with any accumen or credibility, is likely to be brought in on our budget?
Also, I wonder how much Lowe and Wilde will be paying themselves during this financial crisis. Considering they have both played a huge part in causing our money problems and are both independently wealthy, if they are serious about protecting their investment and getting the club back on track, perhaps they should waive their salaries?
In all seriousness, can we afford not to keep Pearson? Who else, with any accumen or credibility, is likely to be brought in on our budget?
Also, I wonder how much Lowe and Wilde will be paying themselves during this financial crisis. Considering they have both played a huge part in causing our money problems and are both independently wealthy, if they are serious about protecting their investment and getting the club back on track, perhaps they should waive their salaries?
Posted by: Tay, Portswood on 12:56pm Wed 21 May 08
So who would people keep out of those that are out of contract?
Personally i would say, Wright, Licka, and Gillett.. as long as they are all on pretty cheap wages, and are squad players..
Wright and Licka are quite versatile so are good backup.. (never thought i would have wanted to keep Wright after the first half of the season..)
oh and Gillett is 23 now.. but i think he can step up from the reserves, always stood out in the games i saw of him.
So who would people keep out of those that are out of contract?
Personally i would say, Wright, Licka, and Gillett.. as long as they are all on pretty cheap wages, and are squad players..
Wright and Licka are quite versatile so are good backup.. (never thought i would have wanted to keep Wright after the first half of the season..)
oh and Gillett is 23 now.. but i think he can step up from the reserves, always stood out in the games i saw of him.
Posted by: GOG on 1:11pm Wed 21 May 08
[quote][bold]Shaun Tew[/bold] wrote:
I dont think we need to worry about Lowe he will not be in charge for long.... The Club is about to be bought a firm offer is on the table today. Lowe and Wilde are only back to make sure they and their proxy share holders have an input to the final deal.The Club will be under new stewardship at the start of the new season. Lets start to look forward to a new beginning at St Marys and lets look forward to sweeping all of the present useless idiots away from our great club. [/quote] Shaun, I have it good authority (the tea lady at SMS) that this board doesn't need another takeover post unless it's backed up with 100% undeniable evidence.
There, I've named my source - what's yours???
Shaun Tew wrote:
I dont think we need to worry about Lowe he will not be in charge for long.... The Club is about to be bought a firm offer is on the table today. Lowe and Wilde are only back to make sure they and their proxy share holders have an input to the final deal.The Club will be under new stewardship at the start of the new season. Lets start to look forward to a new beginning at St Marys and lets look forward to sweeping all of the present useless idiots away from our great club.
Shaun, I have it good authority (the tea lady at SMS) that this board doesn't need another takeover post unless it's backed up with 100% undeniable evidence.
There, I've named my source - what's yours???
Posted by: Al on 1:11pm Wed 21 May 08
[quote][bold]allsaintsnocurves[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Al[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]allsaintsnocurves[/bold] wrote: Of all those players listed who are out of contract...including the 2 who have already retired! I would only try and keep Dyer. He has pace and I\\\'m sure Pearson can nurture and get the best out of him. The rest are a waste of space...Licka might be worth a punt again if he is cheap but the rest will free up space for some of our youngsters to come through the ranks. We still need a decent right back so that would be an area to strengthen and we could do with some more experienced central midfielders...someon e who can pass and control the tempo of a game. We need a team that can slow a game down when we are winning and raise the tempo when we are chasing a game. How many goals have we conceaded so soon after scoring ourselves! Lancashire and Davies will be a great centreback partnership...but I hope we can get Wright back in goal for the whole season![/quote] I\\\'d pretty much agree with this, although I am a big fan of Inigo Idiakez, he\\\'s probably the best set peice man we have and he is experianced,skilled and imaginative[/quote] Well he hasn\'t been that great at set pieces not as much as we\'d hoped. Not in the class of Bale or Le Tiss. Plus he\'s getting old and we need legs in the midfield..and he\'s probably on a high salary...unless this can be negotiated so he takes a pay cut to sign on.[/quote] Yeah that's true, but we all know ho amazing Bale was, if we'd retained the o6/07 team we'd probably won the championship. lol
allsaintsnocurves wrote:
Al wrote: allsaintsnocurves wrote: Of all those players listed who are out of contract...including the 2 who have already retired! I would only try and keep Dyer. He has pace and I'm sure Pearson can nurture and get the best out of him. The rest are a waste of space...Licka might be worth a punt again if he is cheap but the rest will free up space for some of our youngsters to come through the ranks. We still need a decent right back so that would be an area to strengthen and we could do with some more experienced central midfielders...someon e who can pass and control the tempo of a game. We need a team that can slow a game down when we are winning and raise the tempo when we are chasing a game. How many goals have we conceaded so soon after scoring ourselves! Lancashire and Davies will be a great centreback partnership...but I hope we can get Wright back in goal for the whole season!
I'd pretty much agree with this, although I am a big fan of Inigo Idiakez, he's probably the best set peice man we have and he is experianced,skilled and imaginative
Well he hasn\'t been that great at set pieces not as much as we\'d hoped. Not in the class of Bale or Le Tiss. Plus he\'s getting old and we need legs in the midfield..and he\'s probably on a high salary...unless this can be negotiated so he takes a pay cut to sign on.
Yeah that's true, but we all know ho amazing Bale was, if we'd retained the o6/07 team we'd probably won the championship. lol
Posted by: Fancywoman, at home on 2:36pm Wed 21 May 08
[quote][bold]Benny Fitt[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Fancywoman[/bold] wrote: I am just a woman and only understand things like knitting and housework. Surely the best idea would be to merge Southampton and Portsmouth and take on the the big teams like Manchester Rovers and the Gooners. We could even have a fancy new name like Saint Pompey........or something, anyway got to go as I have to put my husband, Rupert, his dinner on.[/quote] I\'m not sure whether this has been written by Ric Flair or Crew657. They both know precious little about football and talk a load of rubbish. One thinks he\'s an heroic soldier and the other a world-beating wrestler. But we all think that they both sound like a pair of big girls. Mind you, I wouldn\'t fancy either of them. [/quote] Hi Benny Fitt,
Wow, I can see you know an awful lot about football and men. As a woman I bow to your superior knowledge especially on the subject of men. Do you have any more tips for keeping a man happy especially my Rupert.
Benny Fitt wrote:
Fancywoman wrote: I am just a woman and only understand things like knitting and housework. Surely the best idea would be to merge Southampton and Portsmouth and take on the the big teams like Manchester Rovers and the Gooners. We could even have a fancy new name like Saint Pompey........or something, anyway got to go as I have to put my husband, Rupert, his dinner on.
I\'m not sure whether this has been written by Ric Flair or Crew657. They both know precious little about football and talk a load of rubbish. One thinks he\'s an heroic soldier and the other a world-beating wrestler. But we all think that they both sound like a pair of big girls. Mind you, I wouldn\'t fancy either of them.
Hi Benny Fitt,
Wow, I can see you know an awful lot about football and men. As a woman I bow to your superior knowledge especially on the subject of men. Do you have any more tips for keeping a man happy especially my Rupert.
Posted by: Robbie, Fareham on 2:36pm Wed 21 May 08
[bold]Lowe has had his fingers burnt over mangement selection too many time to take another risk now, nor does he want to upset the fans from the start. I think what is key is that we are all behind the club, including the Board and pray...lots !!![/bold]
I'm not a Saints fan, but my wife and sons are season ticket holders. Lowe coming back is a worrying turn of events. Straight away we hear about 'tightening belts'. might I make a suggestion? Reduce the bill spent on Director Hospitality. Car share to the away games, like the real fans have to. Pearson is the best thing to happen to So'ton in a long time. He has a no-nonsense approach to the game that strips everything back to basic effort. While he has been in charge, Saints have made the effort to go for the 50/50 balls that they wouldn't have bothered with before. They run around the field for 90 minutes, unlike before. My worry is that Lowe won't be worried about upsetting fans if he wants a new man in charge(and I'm 90% certain that he does). I have no idea why Mr Lowe is still involved in the club. His passion is totally under-whelming. We work hard to pay for the tickets so my family can watch the club they love. Add to that the bill for merchandise (a whole new range of strips out in a few weeks, I bet my boys will want to be up to date!)and the match day experience (programmes/ food/ drink/ visit to the shop)and my annual handover to the club is massive. I'm lucky, i cn afford it, but I start to resent it when the top level of the club treat their fans with such contempt. If you want the support of the fans, earn it. Show some commitment, instead of just skimming the club all the time. Thet goings on since your day of glory in Cardiff, which was ONLY 5 YEARS AGO havve made you a laughing stock. Lowe pulling out his EGM card, so close to the end of the season had the potential to tilt the club off its fragile axis at a time when the club needed solidarity. That's how much Mr Lowe cares about your club. The passion of the everyday fan has never been in doubt. The long car journeys home every 2 weeks were an abyss of misery at times. It's time the people at the top started to mirror this passion.
Lowe has had his fingers burnt over mangement selection too many time to take another risk now, nor does he want to upset the fans from the start. I think what is key is that we are all behind the club, including the Board and pray...lots !!!
I'm not a Saints fan, but my wife and sons are season ticket holders. Lowe coming back is a worrying turn of events. Straight away we hear about 'tightening belts'. might I make a suggestion? Reduce the bill spent on Director Hospitality. Car share to the away games, like the real fans have to. Pearson is the best thing to happen to So'ton in a long time. He has a no-nonsense approach to the game that strips everything back to basic effort. While he has been in charge, Saints have made the effort to go for the 50/50 balls that they wouldn't have bothered with before. They run around the field for 90 minutes, unlike before. My worry is that Lowe won't be worried about upsetting fans if he wants a new man in charge(and I'm 90% certain that he does). I have no idea why Mr Lowe is still involved in the club. His passion is totally under-whelming. We work hard to pay for the tickets so my family can watch the club they love. Add to that the bill for merchandise (a whole new range of strips out in a few weeks, I bet my boys will want to be up to date!)and the match day experience (programmes/ food/ drink/ visit to the shop)and my annual handover to the club is massive. I'm lucky, i cn afford it, but I start to resent it when the top level of the club treat their fans with such contempt. If you want the support of the fans, earn it. Show some commitment, instead of just skimming the club all the time. Thet goings on since your day of glory in Cardiff, which was ONLY 5 YEARS AGO havve made you a laughing stock. Lowe pulling out his EGM card, so close to the end of the season had the potential to tilt the club off its fragile axis at a time when the club needed solidarity. That's how much Mr Lowe cares about your club. The passion of the everyday fan has never been in doubt. The long car journeys home every 2 weeks were an abyss of misery at times. It's time the people at the top started to mirror this passion.
Posted by: True Blue, Fareham on 2:37pm Wed 21 May 08
Mike & Costa Mike.
I nearly forgot.
Don't forget to report what the take-up is on season tickets for next season!
Pompey's are doing very well, thanks.
Mike & Costa Mike.
I nearly forgot.
Don't forget to report what the take-up is on season tickets for next season!
Pompey's are doing very well, thanks.
Posted by: Mmmmm, here, there, everwhere on 2:43pm Wed 21 May 08
[quote][bold]True Blue[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Mike[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]costa mike[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]crew657[/bold] wrote: STAINS TO MOVE GROUND A two fold plan has emerged to change the fortunes of saints. Firstly SMS will be sold to Pompey (for use as their training ground) bringing in money for players, and Saints will move to the recreation park in Millbrook which has 2 advantages, it has the capacity for the numbe of true scum fans (about 70) and also stinks to high heaven so the scum fans will feel at home in the milbbrook cespit and cowardly environment[/quote] LOL LOL LOL What an idiot.Pompey struggled to sell 17,5000 tickets for most of their home games last season in their best season for 50 years.We averaged about 23,000 in our worst season for 50 years.You only had 3,000 at Notarf Krap to greet your heroes home the other night.What a pathetic tiny club you are with a load of jcl mockney worzel supporters. AN ABSOLUTE JOKE![/quote] As shown on Sky Sports news over the last few days. Skates average attendance - 17,200. Saints average attendance 21,700. Says a lot i think![/quote] Mike and Costa Mike, if your figures are correct, and you also have a magnificent stadium, that when not used for football, is hired out for conferences and other events. You had a 'mega' shop, when Pompey were operating out of a small shop. You have had academy status for a number of years, even before Pompey went into administration. With all of these benefits stacked up in Saints favour, how come that Portsmouth finished the season 8th in the Premier League and won the FA Cup, and Saints, with all the aforementioned benefits, narrowly avoided relegation to Division 1? As Costa Mike would say, 'AN ABSOLUTE JOKE!' and Mike would say, 'SAYS A LOT I THINK!' [/quote] In answer to your question.... can you spell "arms dealing billionaire owner"? It's a fairly straightforward answer to a not very bright question.
True Blue wrote:
Mike wrote: costa mike wrote: crew657 wrote: STAINS TO MOVE GROUND A two fold plan has emerged to change the fortunes of saints. Firstly SMS will be sold to Pompey (for use as their training ground) bringing in money for players, and Saints will move to the recreation park in Millbrook which has 2 advantages, it has the capacity for the numbe of true scum fans (about 70) and also stinks to high heaven so the scum fans will feel at home in the milbbrook cespit and cowardly environment
LOL LOL LOL What an idiot.Pompey struggled to sell 17,5000 tickets for most of their home games last season in their best season for 50 years.We averaged about 23,000 in our worst season for 50 years.You only had 3,000 at Notarf Krap to greet your heroes home the other night.What a pathetic tiny club you are with a load of jcl mockney worzel supporters. AN ABSOLUTE JOKE!
As shown on Sky Sports news over the last few days. Skates average attendance - 17,200. Saints average attendance 21,700. Says a lot i think!
Mike and Costa Mike, if your figures are correct, and you also have a magnificent stadium, that when not used for football, is hired out for conferences and other events. You had a 'mega' shop, when Pompey were operating out of a small shop. You have had academy status for a number of years, even before Pompey went into administration. With all of these benefits stacked up in Saints favour, how come that Portsmouth finished the season 8th in the Premier League and won the FA Cup, and Saints, with all the aforementioned benefits, narrowly avoided relegation to Division 1? As Costa Mike would say, 'AN ABSOLUTE JOKE!' and Mike would say, 'SAYS A LOT I THINK!'
In answer to your question.... can you spell "arms dealing billionaire owner"? It's a fairly straightforward answer to a not very bright question.
Posted by: COYR, Kingsland on 2:46pm Wed 21 May 08
[quote][bold]True Blue[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Mike[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]costa mike[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]crew657[/bold] wrote: STAINS TO MOVE GROUND A two fold plan has emerged to change the fortunes of saints. Firstly SMS will be sold to Pompey (for use as their training ground) bringing in money for players, and Saints will move to the recreation park in Millbrook which has 2 advantages, it has the capacity for the numbe of true scum fans (about 70) and also stinks to high heaven so the scum fans will feel at home in the milbbrook cespit and cowardly environment[/quote] LOL LOL LOL What an idiot.Pompey struggled to sell 17,5000 tickets for most of their home games last season in their best season for 50 years.We averaged about 23,000 in our worst season for 50 years.You only had 3,000 at Notarf Krap to greet your heroes home the other night.What a pathetic tiny club you are with a load of jcl mockney worzel supporters. AN ABSOLUTE JOKE![/quote] As shown on Sky Sports news over the last few days. Skates average attendance - 17,200. Saints average attendance 21,700. Says a lot i think![/quote] Mike and Costa Mike, if your figures are correct, and you also have a magnificent stadium, that when not used for football, is hired out for conferences and other events. You had a \'mega\' shop, when Pompey were operating out of a small shop. You have had academy status for a number of years, even before Pompey went into administration. With all of these benefits stacked up in Saints favour, how come that Portsmouth finished the season 8th in the Premier League and won the FA Cup, and Saints, with all the aforementioned benefits, narrowly avoided relegation to Division 1? As Costa Mike would say, \'AN ABSOLUTE JOKE!\' and Mike would say, \'SAYS A LOT I THINK!\' [/quote] Russian gun runner loaning £23M ?
True Blue wrote:
Mike wrote: costa mike wrote: crew657 wrote: STAINS TO MOVE GROUND A two fold plan has emerged to change the fortunes of saints. Firstly SMS will be sold to Pompey (for use as their training ground) bringing in money for players, and Saints will move to the recreation park in Millbrook which has 2 advantages, it has the capacity for the numbe of true scum fans (about 70) and also stinks to high heaven so the scum fans will feel at home in the milbbrook cespit and cowardly environment
LOL LOL LOL What an idiot.Pompey struggled to sell 17,5000 tickets for most of their home games last season in their best season for 50 years.We averaged about 23,000 in our worst season for 50 years.You only had 3,000 at Notarf Krap to greet your heroes home the other night.What a pathetic tiny club you are with a load of jcl mockney worzel supporters. AN ABSOLUTE JOKE!
As shown on Sky Sports news over the last few days. Skates average attendance - 17,200. Saints average attendance 21,700. Says a lot i think!
Mike and Costa Mike, if your figures are correct, and you also have a magnificent stadium, that when not used for football, is hired out for conferences and other events. You had a \'mega\' shop, when Pompey were operating out of a small shop. You have had academy status for a number of years, even before Pompey went into administration. With all of these benefits stacked up in Saints favour, how come that Portsmouth finished the season 8th in the Premier League and won the FA Cup, and Saints, with all the aforementioned benefits, narrowly avoided relegation to Division 1? As Costa Mike would say, \'AN ABSOLUTE JOKE!\' and Mike would say, \'SAYS A LOT I THINK!\'
Russian gun runner loaning £23M ?
Posted by: D. Fukkarwee on 2:46pm Wed 21 May 08
[quote][bold]Fancywoman[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Benny Fitt[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Fancywoman[/bold] wrote: I am just a woman and only understand things like knitting and housework. Surely the best idea would be to merge Southampton and Portsmouth and take on the the big teams like Manchester Rovers and the Gooners. We could even have a fancy new name like Saint Pompey........or something, anyway got to go as I have to put my husband, Rupert, his dinner on.[/quote] I\'m not sure whether this has been written by Ric Flair or Crew657. They both know precious little about football and talk a load of rubbish. One thinks he\'s an heroic soldier and the other a world-beating wrestler. But we all think that they both sound like a pair of big girls. Mind you, I wouldn\'t fancy either of them. [/quote] Hi Benny Fitt, Wow, I can see you know an awful lot about football and men. As a woman I bow to your superior knowledge especially on the subject of men. Do you have any more tips for keeping a man happy especially my Rupert. [/quote] just go for it
Fancywoman wrote:
Benny Fitt wrote: Fancywoman wrote: I am just a woman and only understand things like knitting and housework. Surely the best idea would be to merge Southampton and Portsmouth and take on the the big teams like Manchester Rovers and the Gooners. We could even have a fancy new name like Saint Pompey........or something, anyway got to go as I have to put my husband, Rupert, his dinner on.
I\'m not sure whether this has been written by Ric Flair or Crew657. They both know precious little about football and talk a load of rubbish. One thinks he\'s an heroic soldier and the other a world-beating wrestler. But we all think that they both sound like a pair of big girls. Mind you, I wouldn\'t fancy either of them.
Hi Benny Fitt, Wow, I can see you know an awful lot about football and men. As a woman I bow to your superior knowledge especially on the subject of men. Do you have any more tips for keeping a man happy especially my Rupert.
just go for it
Posted by: shaun tew, Southampton on 2:54pm Wed 21 May 08
[quote][bold]GOG[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Shaun Tew[/bold] wrote: I dont think we need to worry about Lowe he will not be in charge for long.... The Club is about to be bought a firm offer is on the table today. Lowe and Wilde are only back to make sure they and their proxy share holders have an input to the final deal.The Club will be under new stewardship at the start of the new season. Lets start to look forward to a new beginning at St Marys and lets look forward to sweeping all of the present useless idiots away from our great club. [/quote] Shaun, I have it good authority (the tea lady at SMS) that this board doesn\'t need another takeover post unless it\'s backed up with 100% undeniable evidence. There, I\'ve named my source - what\'s yours???[/quote] Just wait and see.... this week a good offer will either have to be accepted or turned down by Lowe and his side kick, If its turned down they will have to explain why.....
Watch this space......
GOG wrote:
Shaun Tew wrote: I dont think we need to worry about Lowe he will not be in charge for long.... The Club is about to be bought a firm offer is on the table today. Lowe and Wilde are only back to make sure they and their proxy share holders have an input to the final deal.The Club will be under new stewardship at the start of the new season. Lets start to look forward to a new beginning at St Marys and lets look forward to sweeping all of the present useless idiots away from our great club.
Shaun, I have it good authority (the tea lady at SMS) that this board doesn\'t need another takeover post unless it\'s backed up with 100% undeniable evidence. There, I\'ve named my source - what\'s yours???
Just wait and see.... this week a good offer will either have to be accepted or turned down by Lowe and his side kick, If its turned down they will have to explain why.....
Watch this space......
Posted by: John B, Bitterne on 3:15pm Wed 21 May 08
[quote][bold]Robbie[/bold] wrote:
[bold]Lowe has had his fingers burnt over mangement selection too many time to take another risk now, nor does he want to upset the fans from the start. I think what is key is that we are all behind the club, including the Board and pray...lots !!![/bold] I'm not a Saints fan, but my wife and sons are season ticket holders. Lowe coming back is a worrying turn of events. Straight away we hear about 'tightening belts'. might I make a suggestion? Reduce the bill spent on Director Hospitality. Car share to the away games, like the real fans have to. Pearson is the best thing to happen to So'ton in a long time. He has a no-nonsense approach to the game that strips everything back to basic effort. While he has been in charge, Saints have made the effort to go for the 50/50 balls that they wouldn't have bothered with before. They run around the field for 90 minutes, unlike before. My worry is that Lowe won't be worried about upsetting fans if he wants a new man in charge(and I'm 90% certain that he does). I have no idea why Mr Lowe is still involved in the club. His passion is totally under-whelming. We work hard to pay for the tickets so my family can watch the club they love. Add to that the bill for merchandise (a whole new range of strips out in a few weeks, I bet my boys will want to be up to date!)and the match day experience (programmes/ food/ drink/ visit to the shop)and my annual handover to the club is massive. I'm lucky, i cn afford it, but I start to resent it when the top level of the club treat their fans with such contempt. If you want the support of the fans, earn it. Show some commitment, instead of just skimming the club all the time. Thet goings on since your day of glory in Cardiff, which was ONLY 5 YEARS AGO havve made you a laughing stock. Lowe pulling out his EGM card, so close to the end of the season had the potential to tilt the club off its fragile axis at a time when the club needed solidarity. That's how much Mr Lowe cares about your club. The passion of the everyday fan has never been in doubt. The long car journeys home every 2 weeks were an abyss of misery at times. It's time the people at the top started to mirror this passion.[/quote] We dont need passionate board members we want financial sound people.
We dont want people like you critising every thing Lowe does and making sweeping statements which have any factual reasoning behind them.
Lowe might get a new manager that is his decision based on the facts he has to hand.
Robbie wrote:
Lowe has had his fingers burnt over mangement selection too many time to take another risk now, nor does he want to upset the fans from the start. I think what is key is that we are all behind the club, including the Board and pray...lots !!! I'm not a Saints fan, but my wife and sons are season ticket holders. Lowe coming back is a worrying turn of events. Straight away we hear about 'tightening belts'. might I make a suggestion? Reduce the bill spent on Director Hospitality. Car share to the away games, like the real fans have to. Pearson is the best thing to happen to So'ton in a long time. He has a no-nonsense approach to the game that strips everything back to basic effort. While he has been in charge, Saints have made the effort to go for the 50/50 balls that they wouldn't have bothered with before. They run around the field for 90 minutes, unlike before. My worry is that Lowe won't be worried about upsetting fans if he wants a new man in charge(and I'm 90% certain that he does). I have no idea why Mr Lowe is still involved in the club. His passion is totally under-whelming. We work hard to pay for the tickets so my family can watch the club they love. Add to that the bill for merchandise (a whole new range of strips out in a few weeks, I bet my boys will want to be up to date!)and the match day experience (programmes/ food/ drink/ visit to the shop)and my annual handover to the club is massive. I'm lucky, i cn afford it, but I start to resent it when the top level of the club treat their fans with such contempt. If you want the support of the fans, earn it. Show some commitment, instead of just skimming the club all the time. Thet goings on since your day of glory in Cardiff, which was ONLY 5 YEARS AGO havve made you a laughing stock. Lowe pulling out his EGM card, so close to the end of the season had the potential to tilt the club off its fragile axis at a time when the club needed solidarity. That's how much Mr Lowe cares about your club. The passion of the everyday fan has never been in doubt. The long car journeys home every 2 weeks were an abyss of misery at times. It's time the people at the top started to mirror this passion.
We dont need passionate board members we want financial sound people.
We dont want people like you critising every thing Lowe does and making sweeping statements which have any factual reasoning behind them.
Lowe might get a new manager that is his decision based on the facts he has to hand.
Posted by: Al on 3:23pm Wed 21 May 08
[quote][bold]John B[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Robbie[/bold] wrote: [bold]Lowe has had his fingers burnt over mangement selection too many time to take another risk now, nor does he want to upset the fans from the start. I think what is key is that we are all behind the club, including the Board and pray...lots !!![/bold] I'm not a Saints fan, but my wife and sons are season ticket holders. Lowe coming back is a worrying turn of events. Straight away we hear about 'tightening belts'. might I make a suggestion? Reduce the bill spent on Director Hospitality. Car share to the away games, like the real fans have to. Pearson is the best thing to happen to So'ton in a long time. He has a no-nonsense approach to the game that strips everything back to basic effort. While he has been in charge, Saints have made the effort to go for the 50/50 balls that they wouldn't have bothered with before. They run around the field for 90 minutes, unlike before. My worry is that Lowe won't be worried about upsetting fans if he wants a new man in charge(and I'm 90% certain that he does). I have no idea why Mr Lowe is still involved in the club. His passion is totally under-whelming. We work hard to pay for the tickets so my family can watch the club they love. Add to that the bill for merchandise (a whole new range of strips out in a few weeks, I bet my boys will want to be up to date!)and the match day experience (programmes/ food/ drink/ visit to the shop)and my annual handover to the club is massive. I'm lucky, i cn afford it, but I start to resent it when the top level of the club treat their fans with such contempt. If you want the support of the fans, earn it. Show some commitment, instead of just skimming the club all the time. Thet goings on since your day of glory in Cardiff, which was ONLY 5 YEARS AGO havve made you a laughing stock. Lowe pulling out his EGM card, so close to the end of the season had the potential to tilt the club off its fragile axis at a time when the club needed solidarity. That's how much Mr Lowe cares about your club. The passion of the everyday fan has never been in doubt. The long car journeys home every 2 weeks were an abyss of misery at times. It's time the people at the top started to mirror this passion.[/quote] We dont need passionate board members we want financial sound people. We dont want people like you critising every thing Lowe does and making sweeping statements which have any factual reasoning behind them. Lowe might get a new manager that is his decision based on the facts he has to hand.[/quote] I agree.
The fact is that Lowe is in power, and Wilde is his puppet, so we should all accept that and get behind the team.
Let's fill out the magnificient stadium, which we all owe thanks to Rupert Lowe, every week.
I for on back his policy on the academy, i just hopethat the 1st team will com first in financial matters. We want to be able to break in good home grown players for decent money without buying in over-payed journeymen. We want loyalty and stability.
John B wrote:
Robbie wrote: Lowe has had his fingers burnt over mangement selection too many time to take another risk now, nor does he want to upset the fans from the start. I think what is key is that we are all behind the club, including the Board and pray...lots !!! I'm not a Saints fan, but my wife and sons are season ticket holders. Lowe coming back is a worrying turn of events. Straight away we hear about 'tightening belts'. might I make a suggestion? Reduce the bill spent on Director Hospitality. Car share to the away games, like the real fans have to. Pearson is the best thing to happen to So'ton in a long time. He has a no-nonsense approach to the game that strips everything back to basic effort. While he has been in charge, Saints have made the effort to go for the 50/50 balls that they wouldn't have bothered with before. They run around the field for 90 minutes, unlike before. My worry is that Lowe won't be worried about upsetting fans if he wants a new man in charge(and I'm 90% certain that he does). I have no idea why Mr Lowe is still involved in the club. His passion is totally under-whelming. We work hard to pay for the tickets so my family can watch the club they love. Add to that the bill for merchandise (a whole new range of strips out in a few weeks, I bet my boys will want to be up to date!)and the match day experience (programmes/ food/ drink/ visit to the shop)and my annual handover to the club is massive. I'm lucky, i cn afford it, but I start to resent it when the top level of the club treat their fans with such contempt. If you want the support of the fans, earn it. Show some commitment, instead of just skimming the club all the time. Thet goings on since your day of glory in Cardiff, which was ONLY 5 YEARS AGO havve made you a laughing stock. Lowe pulling out his EGM card, so close to the end of the season had the potential to tilt the club off its fragile axis at a time when the club needed solidarity. That's how much Mr Lowe cares about your club. The passion of the everyday fan has never been in doubt. The long car journeys home every 2 weeks were an abyss of misery at times. It's time the people at the top started to mirror this passion.
We dont need passionate board members we want financial sound people. We dont want people like you critising every thing Lowe does and making sweeping statements which have any factual reasoning behind them. Lowe might get a new manager that is his decision based on the facts he has to hand.
I agree.
The fact is that Lowe is in power, and Wilde is his puppet, so we should all accept that and get behind the team.
Let's fill out the magnificient stadium, which we all owe thanks to Rupert Lowe, every week.
I for on back his policy on the academy, i just hopethat the 1st team will com first in financial matters. We want to be able to break in good home grown players for decent money without buying in over-payed journeymen. We want loyalty and stability.
Posted by: John B, Bitterne on 3:29pm Wed 21 May 08
[quote][bold]Al[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]John B[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Robbie[/bold] wrote: [bold]Lowe has had his fingers burnt over mangement selection too many time to take another risk now, nor does he want to upset the fans from the start. I think what is key is that we are all behind the club, including the Board and pray...lots !!![/bold] I'm not a Saints fan, but my wife and sons are season ticket holders. Lowe coming back is a worrying turn of events. Straight away we hear about 'tightening belts'. might I make a suggestion? Reduce the bill spent on Director Hospitality. Car share to the away games, like the real fans have to. Pearson is the best thing to happen to So'ton in a long time. He has a no-nonsense approach to the game that strips everything back to basic effort. While he has been in charge, Saints have made the effort to go for the 50/50 balls that they wouldn't have bothered with before. They run around the field for 90 minutes, unlike before. My worry is that Lowe won't be worried about upsetting fans if he wants a new man in charge(and I'm 90% certain that he does). I have no idea why Mr Lowe is still involved in the club. His passion is totally under-whelming. We work hard to pay for the tickets so my family can watch the club they love. Add to that the bill for merchandise (a whole new range of strips out in a few weeks, I bet my boys will want to be up to date!)and the match day experience (programmes/ food/ drink/ visit to the shop)and my annual handover to the club is massive. I'm lucky, i cn afford it, but I start to resent it when the top level of the club treat their fans with such contempt. If you want the support of the fans, earn it. Show some commitment, instead of just skimming the club all the time. Thet goings on since your day of glory in Cardiff, which was ONLY 5 YEARS AGO havve made you a laughing stock. Lowe pulling out his EGM card, so close to the end of the season had the potential to tilt the club off its fragile axis at a time when the club needed solidarity. That's how much Mr Lowe cares about your club. The passion of the everyday fan has never been in doubt. The long car journeys home every 2 weeks were an abyss of misery at times. It's time the people at the top started to mirror this passion.[/quote] We dont need passionate board members we want financial sound people. We dont want people like you critising every thing Lowe does and making sweeping statements which have any factual reasoning behind them. Lowe might get a new manager that is his decision based on the facts he has to hand.[/quote] I agree. The fact is that Lowe is in power, and Wilde is his puppet, so we should all accept that and get behind the team. Let's fill out the magnificient stadium, which we all owe thanks to Rupert Lowe, every week. I for on back his policy on the academy, i just hopethat the 1st team will com first in financial matters. We want to be able to break in good home grown players for decent money without buying in over-payed journeymen. We want loyalty and stability. [/quote] I agree we can whinge for ever but nothing will be achieved .
Just Support SFC
Al wrote:
John B wrote: Robbie wrote: Lowe has had his fingers burnt over mangement selection too many time to take another risk now, nor does he want to upset the fans from the start. I think what is key is that we are all behind the club, including the Board and pray...lots !!! I'm not a Saints fan, but my wife and sons are season ticket holders. Lowe coming back is a worrying turn of events. Straight away we hear about 'tightening belts'. might I make a suggestion? Reduce the bill spent on Director Hospitality. Car share to the away games, like the real fans have to. Pearson is the best thing to happen to So'ton in a long time. He has a no-nonsense approach to the game that strips everything back to basic effort. While he has been in charge, Saints have made the effort to go for the 50/50 balls that they wouldn't have bothered with before. They run around the field for 90 minutes, unlike before. My worry is that Lowe won't be worried about upsetting fans if he wants a new man in charge(and I'm 90% certain that he does). I have no idea why Mr Lowe is still involved in the club. His passion is totally under-whelming. We work hard to pay for the tickets so my family can watch the club they love. Add to that the bill for merchandise (a whole new range of strips out in a few weeks, I bet my boys will want to be up to date!)and the match day experience (programmes/ food/ drink/ visit to the shop)and my annual handover to the club is massive. I'm lucky, i cn afford it, but I start to resent it when the top level of the club treat their fans with such contempt. If you want the support of the fans, earn it. Show some commitment, instead of just skimming the club all the time. Thet goings on since your day of glory in Cardiff, which was ONLY 5 YEARS AGO havve made you a laughing stock. Lowe pulling out his EGM card, so close to the end of the season had the potential to tilt the club off its fragile axis at a time when the club needed solidarity. That's how much Mr Lowe cares about your club. The passion of the everyday fan has never been in doubt. The long car journeys home every 2 weeks were an abyss of misery at times. It's time the people at the top started to mirror this passion.
We dont need passionate board members we want financial sound people. We dont want people like you critising every thing Lowe does and making sweeping statements which have any factual reasoning behind them. Lowe might get a new manager that is his decision based on the facts he has to hand.
I agree. The fact is that Lowe is in power, and Wilde is his puppet, so we should all accept that and get behind the team. Let's fill out the magnificient stadium, which we all owe thanks to Rupert Lowe, every week. I for on back his policy on the academy, i just hopethat the 1st team will com first in financial matters. We want to be able to break in good home grown players for decent money without buying in over-payed journeymen. We want loyalty and stability.
I agree we can whinge for ever but nothing will be achieved .
Just Support SFC
Posted by: Robbie, fareham on 3:52pm Wed 21 May 08
[bold]I agree.
The fact is that Lowe is in power, and Wilde is his puppet, so we should all accept that and get behind the team.
Let's fill out the magnificient stadium, which we all owe thanks to Rupert Lowe, every week.
I for on back his policy on the academy, i just hopethat the 1st team will com first in financial matters. We want to be able to break in good home grown players for decent money without buying in over-payed journeymen. We want loyalty and stability.[/bold]
You seem to want Blind Obedience. Let's all carry on paying out, and hope that things get better. We'll go down, but at least we'll go down TOGETHER. Do you really think that anyone with money is going to invest in a club with a track record for hiring and firing that Lowe has, while he is in charge??? Pearson kicked some behinds at the end of last season, and got players interested in playing again. My wife thought long and hard before putting her hand in my wallet to renew tickets. The club has to give some return. Too many times in recent years the team has put in a markedly sub-standard performance. Successive boards have been a source of ridicule, and have made you a laughing stock.
The line about trying out the 'home grown' lads smacks of penny pinching. Send out boys against men, and it will be another nail biting season, for all the wrong reasons. You need to have a balance between youth and experience. And to get any sort of quality, you need to put SOME money into buying players.
Oh, and as for thanking Lowe for the stadium, I agree, it is magnificent. I've spent MANY afternoons and evenings there. Hopefully you won't end up with the finest stadium in League one. I remember being told that you were virtually debt free when it was first built, but it suddenly became a mill stone when the true figures were announced. Add up the transfer fees of everyone you've sold since you went down. Where has all this money gone?
I agree.
The fact is that Lowe is in power, and Wilde is his puppet, so we should all accept that and get behind the team.
Let's fill out the magnificient stadium, which we all owe thanks to Rupert Lowe, every week.
I for on back his policy on the academy, i just hopethat the 1st team will com first in financial matters. We want to be able to break in good home grown players for decent money without buying in over-payed journeymen. We want loyalty and stability.
You seem to want Blind Obedience. Let's all carry on paying out, and hope that things get better. We'll go down, but at least we'll go down TOGETHER. Do you really think that anyone with money is going to invest in a club with a track record for hiring and firing that Lowe has, while he is in charge??? Pearson kicked some behinds at the end of last season, and got players interested in playing again. My wife thought long and hard before putting her hand in my wallet to renew tickets. The club has to give some return. Too many times in recent years the team has put in a markedly sub-standard performance. Successive boards have been a source of ridicule, and have made you a laughing stock.
The line about trying out the 'home grown' lads smacks of penny pinching. Send out boys against men, and it will be another nail biting season, for all the wrong reasons. You need to have a balance between youth and experience. And to get any sort of quality, you need to put SOME money into buying players.
Oh, and as for thanking Lowe for the stadium, I agree, it is magnificent. I've spent MANY afternoons and evenings there. Hopefully you won't end up with the finest stadium in League one. I remember being told that you were virtually debt free when it was first built, but it suddenly became a mill stone when the true figures were announced. Add up the transfer fees of everyone you've sold since you went down. Where has all this money gone?
Posted by: Lowe Out on 3:55pm Wed 21 May 08
[quote][bold]John B[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Robbie[/bold] wrote: [bold]Lowe has had his fingers burnt over mangement selection too many time to take another risk now, nor does he want to upset the fans from the start. I think what is key is that we are all behind the club, including the Board and pray...lots !!![/bold] I\'m not a Saints fan, but my wife and sons are season ticket holders. Lowe coming back is a worrying turn of events. Straight away we hear about \'tightening belts\'. might I make a suggestion? Reduce the bill spent on Director Hospitality. Car share to the away games, like the real fans have to. Pearson is the best thing to happen to So\'ton in a long time. He has a no-nonsense approach to the game that strips everything back to basic effort. While he has been in charge, Saints have made the effort to go for the 50/50 balls that they wouldn\'t have bothered with before. They run around the field for 90 minutes, unlike before. My worry is that Lowe won\'t be worried about upsetting fans if he wants a new man in charge(and I\'m 90% certain that he does). I have no idea why Mr Lowe is still involved in the club. His passion is totally under-whelming. We work hard to pay for the tickets so my family can watch the club they love. Add to that the bill for merchandise (a whole new range of strips out in a few weeks, I bet my boys will want to be up to date!)and the match day experience (programmes/ food/ drink/ visit to the shop)and my annual handover to the club is massive. I\'m lucky, i cn afford it, but I start to resent it when the top level of the club treat their fans with such contempt. If you want the support of the fans, earn it. Show some commitment, instead of just skimming the club all the time. Thet goings on since your day of glory in Cardiff, which was ONLY 5 YEARS AGO havve made you a laughing stock. Lowe pulling out his EGM card, so close to the end of the season had the potential to tilt the club off its fragile axis at a time when the club needed solidarity. That\'s how much Mr Lowe cares about your club. The passion of the everyday fan has never been in doubt. The long car journeys home every 2 weeks were an abyss of misery at times. It\'s time the people at the top started to mirror this passion.[/quote] We dont need passionate board members we want financial sound people. We dont want people like you critising every thing Lowe does and making sweeping statements which have any factual reasoning behind them. Lowe might get a new manager that is his decision based on the facts he has to hand.[/quote] judas
John B wrote:
Robbie wrote: Lowe has had his fingers burnt over mangement selection too many time to take another risk now, nor does he want to upset the fans from the start. I think what is key is that we are all behind the club, including the Board and pray...lots !!! I\'m not a Saints fan, but my wife and sons are season ticket holders. Lowe coming back is a worrying turn of events. Straight away we hear about \'tightening belts\'. might I make a suggestion? Reduce the bill spent on Director Hospitality. Car share to the away games, like the real fans have to. Pearson is the best thing to happen to So\'ton in a long time. He has a no-nonsense approach to the game that strips everything back to basic effort. While he has been in charge, Saints have made the effort to go for the 50/50 balls that they wouldn\'t have bothered with before. They run around the field for 90 minutes, unlike before. My worry is that Lowe won\'t be worried about upsetting fans if he wants a new man in charge(and I\'m 90% certain that he does). I have no idea why Mr Lowe is still involved in the club. His passion is totally under-whelming. We work hard to pay for the tickets so my family can watch the club they love. Add to that the bill for merchandise (a whole new range of strips out in a few weeks, I bet my boys will want to be up to date!)and the match day
