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SAINTS midfielder Youssef Safri was today expected to complete his shock transfer to Qatar Sports Club.
The 31-year-old was unveiled as a Qatar player on the club's official website yesterday with pictures of him wearing a yellow and black club scarf.
Qatar SC, who play in the Qatari League in the Middle East country, claim that Safri has joined them on a three-year contract.
But the revelation took Saints by surprise, and a club spokesman told the Echo last night: "No deal has been formally completed yet."
The Echo understands, though, that the transfer should be completed today.
Safri joined Saints for £250,000 from Norwich last August on a two-year contract. He played 37 Championship games in 2007/08, and the only games he missed were due to two suspensions for red cards against Bristol City and QPR and through playing for Morocco in the African Cup of Nations.
He is the sixth senior pro to leave St Mary's in a few days following the release last week of Alex Ostlund, Darren Powell, Inigo Idiakez, Jermaine Wright and Mario Licka.
Though Safri was Saints' main defensive midfielder last season, new head coach Jan Poortvliet has already signed two players who can play in that position. One is the highly-experienced former Plymouth favourite Paul Wotton and the other 18-year-old Frenchman Morgan Schneiderlin.
Saints begin their pre-season friendly programme at Southern League Premier newcomers Farnborough FC tomorrow evening.
For more Saints news don't miss today's Daily Echo.
6:30am Monday 7th July 2008
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CommentPosted by: BigBobJoyLove, Ruperts Arsehole on 6:55am Mon 7 Jul 08
Another piece of deadwood leaves, just hope the 2 fella's the boss has brought in are up to the job? that said we have too many midfield players anyway and need the cash to get some defenders in
Another piece of deadwood leaves, just hope the 2 fella's the boss has brought in are up to the job? that said we have too many midfield players anyway and need the cash to get some defenders in
Posted by: Condor Man, Southampton on 7:25am Mon 7 Jul 08
Can't say I'm too disappointed, although he put in some good performances he was prone to passing sideways and unlike Wotton was rubbish in front of goal. At 31 a move to Qatar is probably a good one as he'll earn a lot more than he would over here. Let's hope Viafara goes next.
Can't say I'm too disappointed, although he put in some good performances he was prone to passing sideways and unlike Wotton was rubbish in front of goal. At 31 a move to Qatar is probably a good one as he'll earn a lot more than he would over here. Let's hope Viafara goes next.
Posted by: Mark, Southampton on 7:46am Mon 7 Jul 08
No great loss that safri is going in my opinion. He wasn't very influential, and always seemed to pass sideways or backwards. Save a bit on the wage bill. Will be interesting to see who else goes over the next few weeks before the season starts.....COYR
No great loss that safri is going in my opinion. He wasn't very influential, and always seemed to pass sideways or backwards. Save a bit on the wage bill. Will be interesting to see who else goes over the next few weeks before the season starts.....COYR
Posted by: Portswood Pete on 8:03am Mon 7 Jul 08
I can't understand the anti Safri feeling here. Passing sideways or back is okay as long as there isn't better options available and that you pass to your own team, Safri usually took the best option and nearly always passed to his own team mate, Rasiak, Euell, Licka and a few others would do well to try and do the same.
I can't understand the anti Safri feeling here. Passing sideways or back is okay as long as there isn't better options available and that you pass to your own team, Safri usually took the best option and nearly always passed to his own team mate, Rasiak, Euell, Licka and a few others would do well to try and do the same.
Posted by: Condor Man, Southampton on 8:15am Mon 7 Jul 08
I'm not anti-Safri, I'm pro-Saints. If we need to reduce the wage bill to stay out of trouble it's a win win situation if a player can move on for a bigger deal than we could offer anyway. As for Euell and Rasiak, I'd never be suprised if they were moved on too.
I'm not anti-Safri, I'm pro-Saints. If we need to reduce the wage bill to stay out of trouble it's a win win situation if a player can move on for a bigger deal than we could offer anyway. As for Euell and Rasiak, I'd never be suprised if they were moved on too.
Posted by: Fact hunt on 8:17am Mon 7 Jul 08
Fact remains, our squad is weaker than it was at the close of the season. We all know the reasons, but Safri leaving is disappointing, but not unexpected.
Viafara, Surman, Stern John, Skacel and probably Rasiak are next. We'll be left with a squad of around 20 pros. That's just not enough.
Fact remains, our squad is weaker than it was at the close of the season. We all know the reasons, but Safri leaving is disappointing, but not unexpected.
Viafara, Surman, Stern John, Skacel and probably Rasiak are next. We'll be left with a squad of around 20 pros. That's just not enough.
Posted by: Mike, Soton on 8:17am Mon 7 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Condor Man[/bold] wrote:
Can\'t say I\'m too disappointed, although he put in some good performances he was prone to passing sideways and unlike Wotton was rubbish in front of goal. At 31 a move to Qatar is probably a good one as he\'ll earn a lot more than he would over here. Let\'s hope Viafara goes next.[/quote] Wit Pratts like you we will go far !
Safri & Viafara were the best 2 midfielders we had and if they were played as a centre mid pairing for all of last season we would have been up there challenging!
If anyone thinks Wotton and the kids are the answer in the Championship then they have a big wake up call comming.
As for you Condor Man well at least we will still have some humour!
Condor Man wrote:
Can\'t say I\'m too disappointed, although he put in some good performances he was prone to passing sideways and unlike Wotton was rubbish in front of goal. At 31 a move to Qatar is probably a good one as he\'ll earn a lot more than he would over here. Let\'s hope Viafara goes next.
Wit Pratts like you we will go far !
Safri & Viafara were the best 2 midfielders we had and if they were played as a centre mid pairing for all of last season we would have been up there challenging!
If anyone thinks Wotton and the kids are the answer in the Championship then they have a big wake up call comming.
As for you Condor Man well at least we will still have some humour!
Posted by: stew, southampton on 8:24am Mon 7 Jul 08
did anyone see the daily star yesterday,about alan shearer coming to saints as manager.i reckon he might be investing in the club
did anyone see the daily star yesterday,about alan shearer coming to saints as manager.i reckon he might be investing in the club
Posted by: Ray, Eastleigh on 8:26am Mon 7 Jul 08
HAS ANYONE ELSE NOTICED HOW QUIET RUPERT OOPS SORRY JOHN B IS LATELY, OR IS IT JUST ME
HAS ANYONE ELSE NOTICED HOW QUIET RUPERT OOPS SORRY JOHN B IS LATELY, OR IS IT JUST ME
Posted by: Saintsteve, my bed on 8:32am Mon 7 Jul 08
Cant understand why everyone seems happy to see safri go!I for one thought he was one of the better ones in a mediocre team.What about euell?Now he is a wate of space!Hes the deadwood we should be offloading.Just got a bad feeling about this season!Just hope im wrong!
Cant understand why everyone seems happy to see safri go!I for one thought he was one of the better ones in a mediocre team.What about euell?Now he is a wate of space!Hes the deadwood we should be offloading.Just got a bad feeling about this season!Just hope im wrong!
Posted by: Fact Hunt on 8:32am Mon 7 Jul 08
[quote][bold]stew[/bold] wrote:
did anyone see the daily star yesterday,about alan shearer coming to saints as manager.i reckon he might be investing in the club [/quote] Yes I did see that. No, it won't be happening.
stew wrote:
did anyone see the daily star yesterday,about alan shearer coming to saints as manager.i reckon he might be investing in the club
Yes I did see that. No, it won't be happening.
Posted by: Condor Man, Southampton on 9:05am Mon 7 Jul 08
It would seem that Burley enticed players to the club with big wages- ok when we had the parachute payments but a disaster now. Clearly Safri's been offered better terms in Qatar and for him it's a good move as he reaches the end of his career.
As for the Saints we have to be realistic and have a squad we can afford to pay.
It would seem that Burley enticed players to the club with big wages- ok when we had the parachute payments but a disaster now. Clearly Safri's been offered better terms in Qatar and for him it's a good move as he reaches the end of his career.
As for the Saints we have to be realistic and have a squad we can afford to pay.
Posted by: Martin Orford on 9:06am Mon 7 Jul 08
Safri will be no great loss as far as I can see - possibly our most uninteresting and unimaginative player since Matt Oakley. Great if you're George Burley and like to see lots of short passes going nowhere in particular, but I think we can probably do without that next season.
Safri will be no great loss as far as I can see - possibly our most uninteresting and unimaginative player since Matt Oakley. Great if you're George Burley and like to see lots of short passes going nowhere in particular, but I think we can probably do without that next season.
Posted by: Cory Collymore on 9:28am Mon 7 Jul 08
[quote][bold]stew[/bold] wrote:
did anyone see the daily star yesterday,about alan shearer coming to saints as manager.i reckon he might be investing in the club [/quote] Poor, poor Stew. Haven't you learnt yet? Don't believe everything (anything?)you read in the papers, especially a comic like the Star. If you must read rubbish like that, read it, look at the enhanced ladies and move on, I don't know which would come first, madness believing everything you read or blindness looking at the tarts.
stew wrote:
did anyone see the daily star yesterday,about alan shearer coming to saints as manager.i reckon he might be investing in the club
Poor, poor Stew. Haven't you learnt yet? Don't believe everything (anything?)you read in the papers, especially a comic like the Star. If you must read rubbish like that, read it, look at the enhanced ladies and move on, I don't know which would come first, madness believing everything you read or blindness looking at the tarts.
Posted by: John B, Bitterne on 9:31am Mon 7 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Ray[/bold] wrote:
HAS ANYONE ELSE NOTICED HOW QUIET RUPERT OOPS SORRY JOHN B IS LATELY, OR IS IT JUST ME[/quote] With Stupid Comments Like that it is not surprising I am not posting anymore.
Ray wrote:
HAS ANYONE ELSE NOTICED HOW QUIET RUPERT OOPS SORRY JOHN B IS LATELY, OR IS IT JUST ME
With Stupid Comments Like that it is not surprising I am not posting anymore.
Posted by: Fact Hunt on 9:32am Mon 7 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Cory Collymore[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]stew[/bold] wrote: did anyone see the daily star yesterday,about alan shearer coming to saints as manager.i reckon he might be investing in the club [/quote] Poor, poor Stew. Haven't you learnt yet? Don't believe everything (anything?)you read in the papers, especially a comic like the Star. If you must read rubbish like that, read it, look at the enhanced ladies and move on, I don't know which would come first, madness believing everything you read or blindness looking at the tarts.[/quote] There speaks a man of experience
Cory Collymore wrote:
stew wrote: did anyone see the daily star yesterday,about alan shearer coming to saints as manager.i reckon he might be investing in the club
Poor, poor Stew. Haven't you learnt yet? Don't believe everything (anything?)you read in the papers, especially a comic like the Star. If you must read rubbish like that, read it, look at the enhanced ladies and move on, I don't know which would come first, madness believing everything you read or blindness looking at the tarts.
There speaks a man of experience
Posted by: Jannersaint, Plymuff on 9:37am Mon 7 Jul 08
I would think that along with Euell, Rasiak, Skacel and Viafara he's a top earner. Good to offload him. Wotton will be a more versatile option and it's about time Lloyd James was tested. Morgan S may also be good but we'll have to see how strong he is in this league. We have plenty of options here, any idea if a few FB's are coming. I've noticed the absence of Dutch players and most foreign managers bring countrymen in. Any rumours of players following from Helmond?
I would think that along with Euell, Rasiak, Skacel and Viafara he's a top earner. Good to offload him. Wotton will be a more versatile option and it's about time Lloyd James was tested. Morgan S may also be good but we'll have to see how strong he is in this league. We have plenty of options here, any idea if a few FB's are coming. I've noticed the absence of Dutch players and most foreign managers bring countrymen in. Any rumours of players following from Helmond?
Posted by: Realistic, Real world on 9:49am Mon 7 Jul 08
I am surprised at the amount of emotion being generated by Safri going. Firstly it is not a surprise, and secondly I am happy with a) we are saving money and b) the two players brought in can more than compensate. We allknow that Safri had problems with Norwich and I don't think that he ver gave more than 75% to Saints. Time to move on folks, with probably two or three more high earners moving out in the next two weeks, hopefully with at least two coming in. My gut says Stern John and Viafara going, and hopefully a couple of full backs coming in, although I would not mind taking a chance on Jake Thomsom at right back. Saints Forever.
I am surprised at the amount of emotion being generated by Safri going. Firstly it is not a surprise, and secondly I am happy with a) we are saving money and b) the two players brought in can more than compensate. We allknow that Safri had problems with Norwich and I don't think that he ver gave more than 75% to Saints. Time to move on folks, with probably two or three more high earners moving out in the next two weeks, hopefully with at least two coming in. My gut says Stern John and Viafara going, and hopefully a couple of full backs coming in, although I would not mind taking a chance on Jake Thomsom at right back. Saints Forever.
Posted by: Pass the Dutchie on 9:54am Mon 7 Jul 08
We really will be in a state if signing players from Helmond, a semi-pro team, is what we resort to. Might as well sign players from Bashley or Eastleigh, they'll be of the same standard.
We really will be in a state if signing players from Helmond, a semi-pro team, is what we resort to. Might as well sign players from Bashley or Eastleigh, they'll be of the same standard.
Posted by: Megan, Southampton on 9:56am Mon 7 Jul 08
I dont think that Safri going is a huge loss but i did like him! Looking forward to seeing how the new signings play and the lads coming up from the academy! Saints for life! <3
I dont think that Safri going is a huge loss but i did like him! Looking forward to seeing how the new signings play and the lads coming up from the academy! Saints for life! <3
Posted by: Megan, Southampton on 9:59am Mon 7 Jul 08
I dont think that it is a huge loss but i did like him! Looking forward to seeing how the new signings play and the lads from the academy! I agree with pass the dutchie! We dont need to buy players from there do we? Saints For Life! <3
I dont think that it is a huge loss but i did like him! Looking forward to seeing how the new signings play and the lads from the academy! I agree with pass the dutchie! We dont need to buy players from there do we? Saints For Life! <3
Posted by: Artful Dodger, Millbrook on 10:00am Mon 7 Jul 08
It is great to start the week with good news, that has all the fans united in their support of the board's latest decision.
I can see that we will go places this season.
It is great to start the week with good news, that has all the fans united in their support of the board's latest decision.
I can see that we will go places this season.
Posted by: allsaintsnocurves, southampton on 10:02am Mon 7 Jul 08
Yeah real shock about this news...I heard he was leaving for weeks! This is just Lowe sugar coating the fact that they wanted him and needed him to leave. Saints don't need him now they have enough cover in his position and he's probably one of the higher earners at the club.
Yeah real shock about this news...I heard he was leaving for weeks! This is just Lowe sugar coating the fact that they wanted him and needed him to leave. Saints don't need him now they have enough cover in his position and he's probably one of the higher earners at the club.
Posted by: Megan, Southampton on 10:04am Mon 7 Jul 08
Yh hopefully with letting some of the higher earners go we can sort out our financial difficulties!
Yh hopefully with letting some of the higher earners go we can sort out our financial difficulties!
Posted by: Jannersaint, Plymuff on 10:07am Mon 7 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Pass the Dutchie[/bold] wrote:
We really will be in a state if signing players from Helmond, a semi-pro team, is what we resort to. Might as well sign players from Bashley or Eastleigh, they'll be of the same standard.[/quote] Helmond play in the Earste Division; the dutch version of the championship. They're a proffessional side. What on earth you talking about Dutchie? Is the Dutch second league that far below the English? I think not.
I think I've spelt Proffessional wrong and I've never known when to use a semi colon so lets keep the discussions football people.
Pass the Dutchie wrote:
We really will be in a state if signing players from Helmond, a semi-pro team, is what we resort to. Might as well sign players from Bashley or Eastleigh, they'll be of the same standard.
Helmond play in the Earste Division; the dutch version of the championship. They're a proffessional side. What on earth you talking about Dutchie? Is the Dutch second league that far below the English? I think not.
I think I've spelt Proffessional wrong and I've never known when to use a semi colon so lets keep the discussions football people.
Posted by: Megan, Southampton on 10:11am Mon 7 Jul 08
Really and truly, it doesnt matter where they come from, as long as they produce the goods and help us get promoted!
Really and truly, it doesnt matter where they come from, as long as they produce the goods and help us get promoted!
Posted by: Osama Bin Laden, A Cave far far away on 10:12am Mon 7 Jul 08
Another dud gone, a quater of a million is good, and his wages must of been high, now lets get a hungry younger plyaer, maybe from lower leagues
Another dud gone, a quater of a million is good, and his wages must of been high, now lets get a hungry younger plyaer, maybe from lower leagues
Posted by: Pass the Dutchie on 10:18am Mon 7 Jul 08
Population of Holland is about 16m compared to 60m in the UK. So a much much smaller pool of players and I think you'll find the Dutch 2nd Division is a low standard and on a par with the old 4th division/Conference and those clubs have crowds of a similar size and financially are semi-professional.
Population of Holland is about 16m compared to 60m in the UK. So a much much smaller pool of players and I think you'll find the Dutch 2nd Division is a low standard and on a par with the old 4th division/Conference and those clubs have crowds of a similar size and financially are semi-professional.
Posted by: ?????? on 10:30am Mon 7 Jul 08
Why is there no fee in this transfer?
Why is there no fee in this transfer?
Posted by: Osama Bin Laden, A Cave far far away on 10:31am Mon 7 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Megan[/bold] wrote:
Really and truly, it doesnt matter where they come from, as long as they produce the goods and help us get promoted! [/quote] We have tried that. Remember George Weahs Cousain???
Instead lets know EVERYTHING about the players who come here, like Sir Alex Ferguson does.
Megan wrote:
Really and truly, it doesnt matter where they come from, as long as they produce the goods and help us get promoted!
We have tried that. Remember George Weahs Cousain???
Instead lets know EVERYTHING about the players who come here, like Sir Alex Ferguson does.
Posted by: diretimes, southampton on 10:32am Mon 7 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Fact hunt[/bold] wrote:
Fact remains, our squad is weaker than it was at the close of the season. We all know the reasons, but Safri leaving is disappointing, but not unexpected.
Viafara, Surman, Stern John, Skacel and probably Rasiak are next. We'll be left with a squad of around 20 pros. That's just not enough.[/quote] At last a realistic comment on our prospects, Safri going just makes a weak squad worse, unless more experienced championship class players are signed we will be relegated. At this moment in time this is the weakest Saints squad I've seen for over 30 years.
Fact hunt wrote:
Fact remains, our squad is weaker than it was at the close of the season. We all know the reasons, but Safri leaving is disappointing, but not unexpected.
Viafara, Surman, Stern John, Skacel and probably Rasiak are next. We'll be left with a squad of around 20 pros. That's just not enough.
At last a realistic comment on our prospects, Safri going just makes a weak squad worse, unless more experienced championship class players are signed we will be relegated. At this moment in time this is the weakest Saints squad I've seen for over 30 years.
Posted by: Megan, Southampton on 10:33am Mon 7 Jul 08
Yh i think that he was worth something! They got lucky with a free transfer in my mind!
Yh i think that he was worth something! They got lucky with a free transfer in my mind!
Posted by: Rupert Lowe on 10:35am Mon 7 Jul 08
[quote]Qatar SC, who play in the Qatari League in the Middle East country, claim that Safri has joined them on a three-year contract.
But the revelation took Saints by surprise, and a club spokesman told the Echo last night: "No deal has been formally completed yet."
[/quote]
What a shocking way for a football club to go about their business, fancy announcing this as a done deal when contracts haven't even been signed, how totally unprofessional.
Qatar SC, who play in the Qatari League in the Middle East country, claim that Safri has joined them on a three-year contract.
But the revelation took Saints by surprise, and a club spokesman told the Echo last night: "No deal has been formally completed yet."
What a shocking way for a football club to go about their business, fancy announcing this as a done deal when contracts haven't even been signed, how totally unprofessional.
Posted by: Megan, Southampton on 10:35am Mon 7 Jul 08
Our squad is weak! Your completely right! Licka isnt in pur squad! I thought he did really well last season as he started to break into the starting 11. I thought that when Safri played he did put in commitment and he was one of the only players that did!
Our squad is weak! Your completely right! Licka isnt in pur squad! I thought he did really well last season as he started to break into the starting 11. I thought that when Safri played he did put in commitment and he was one of the only players that did!
Posted by: allsaintsnocurves, southampton on 10:48am Mon 7 Jul 08
The irony of Lowe's comment on the Saints website wasn't wasted on me...apparently he was surprised to see Safri unveiled by his new team as the deal has not yet been finalised!! I can't imagine Lowe doing anything like that..unveiling someone at the club when he has not yet been released by his current team...nah...can't see it, he's too good for that!!
http://www.saintsfc.
co.uk/news/?page_id=
10275
The irony of Lowe's comment on the Saints website wasn't wasted on me...apparently he was surprised to see Safri unveiled by his new team as the deal has not yet been finalised!! I can't imagine Lowe doing anything like that..unveiling someone at the club when he has not yet been released by his current team...nah...can't see it, he's too good for that!!
http://www.saintsfc.
co.uk/news/?page_id=
10275
Posted by: Fact hunt on 10:49am Mon 7 Jul 08
Club are saying Safri's going for 400k euros. That's £318k. So a small profit on what we signed him for.
Will that money be used to buy more players? Or will it just disappear and help fund Lowe & Cowen's wages?
Club are saying Safri's going for 400k euros. That's £318k. So a small profit on what we signed him for.
Will that money be used to buy more players? Or will it just disappear and help fund Lowe & Cowen's wages?
Posted by: J Roger, Woolston on 10:56am Mon 7 Jul 08
Ive just been to buy tickets for Claus' testimonial and I'm sure Ive just seen Richard Wright and Chris Baird shaking hands with Rupert Lowe in the reception area. I could have been mistaken, but it did look them.
And did anyone else see the story about Nicky Butt joining over the weekend?
Ive just been to buy tickets for Claus' testimonial and I'm sure Ive just seen Richard Wright and Chris Baird shaking hands with Rupert Lowe in the reception area. I could have been mistaken, but it did look them.
And did anyone else see the story about Nicky Butt joining over the weekend?
Posted by: saint steve, southampton on 10:58am Mon 7 Jul 08
Sad to see Safri go, I just hope we manage to hold on to some of our senior players. I really think we need to keep hold of Surman, A.Davies, Viafara, Skacel, Rasiak & Stern John.
Not sure how far off a take over is (or how much truth their is to the story), but if it's gonna happen it had better had quick sharp so we can bring in some players & before our best players are sold off. If a take over did happen & Shearer was brought in I believe Jan & Mark should be kept on as coaches, as they're both on reasonably low wages.
Also did any one see the story in The Star yesterday about Kelvin Davis going to Ipswich this week? I really hope this is true, I know Ipswich fans actually rate Davis. Also says we're bringing in Spurs keeper Tommy Forecast, but I hope we bring in Richard Wright. Sounds like BS, but fingers crossed...
COYR!
Sad to see Safri go, I just hope we manage to hold on to some of our senior players. I really think we need to keep hold of Surman, A.Davies, Viafara, Skacel, Rasiak & Stern John.
Not sure how far off a take over is (or how much truth their is to the story), but if it's gonna happen it had better had quick sharp so we can bring in some players & before our best players are sold off. If a take over did happen & Shearer was brought in I believe Jan & Mark should be kept on as coaches, as they're both on reasonably low wages.
Also did any one see the story in The Star yesterday about Kelvin Davis going to Ipswich this week? I really hope this is true, I know Ipswich fans actually rate Davis. Also says we're bringing in Spurs keeper Tommy Forecast, but I hope we bring in Richard Wright. Sounds like BS, but fingers crossed...
COYR!
Posted by: Nick, The Dell on 11:02am Mon 7 Jul 08
Jannersaint - By the look of things an inability to use a semi-colon is not something for which you will be derided on this blog. The mixture of cretins and dunderheads that usually post will be searching their word-a- day toilet paper just to find out what on earth a semi-colon is.
Jannersaint - By the look of things an inability to use a semi-colon is not something for which you will be derided on this blog. The mixture of cretins and dunderheads that usually post will be searching their word-a- day toilet paper just to find out what on earth a semi-colon is.
Posted by: Adam F on 11:02am Mon 7 Jul 08
This transfer surprised me as out of all our senior players i thought he would be the least likely to go. I suppose with Schneiderlin and Wotton there would have been very little room for him
This transfer surprised me as out of all our senior players i thought he would be the least likely to go. I suppose with Schneiderlin and Wotton there would have been very little room for him
Posted by: worried of east sussex, up a gum tree on 11:09am Mon 7 Jul 08
[quote][bold]John B[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Ray[/bold] wrote: HAS ANYONE ELSE NOTICED HOW QUIET RUPERT OOPS SORRY JOHN B IS LATELY, OR IS IT JUST ME[/quote] With Stupid Comments Like that it is not surprising I am not posting anymore. [/quote] Best post today - made me larf!
John B wrote:
Ray wrote: HAS ANYONE ELSE NOTICED HOW QUIET RUPERT OOPS SORRY JOHN B IS LATELY, OR IS IT JUST ME
With Stupid Comments Like that it is not surprising I am not posting anymore.
Best post today - made me larf!
Posted by: Jannersaint, Plymuff on 11:12am Mon 7 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Pass the Dutchie[/bold] wrote:
Population of Holland is about 16m compared to 60m in the UK. So a much much smaller pool of players and I think you'll find the Dutch 2nd Division is a low standard and on a par with the old 4th division/Conference and those clubs have crowds of a similar size and financially are semi-professional.[/quote] How many of the 60m british play top flight football? The one difference is the dutch league is made up of African and South Americans gaining euro passports. The quality in the Dutch leagues are not from the Dutch players so population isn't the point. Population of Portugal is only 10M and spain 20M less than Britain.
Pass the Dutchie wrote:
Population of Holland is about 16m compared to 60m in the UK. So a much much smaller pool of players and I think you'll find the Dutch 2nd Division is a low standard and on a par with the old 4th division/Conference and those clubs have crowds of a similar size and financially are semi-professional.
How many of the 60m british play top flight football? The one difference is the dutch league is made up of African and South Americans gaining euro passports. The quality in the Dutch leagues are not from the Dutch players so population isn't the point. Population of Portugal is only 10M and spain 20M less than Britain.
Posted by: Lets face it on 11:14am Mon 7 Jul 08
... any players arriving at Saints this summer will be worse than those that are leaving.
So how do you improve on a league position with a worse & smaller squad and a managerial team with no experience in this league where physical football is paramount?
As far as I can see, the Championship as a whole will be stronger next season than it was last season, but Saints are getting weaker.
Right now, before a ball is kicked, I have to come to the conclusion that it's likely we will be in a relegation fight from day one.
Can anyone give me strong reasons as to why we won't be?
... any players arriving at Saints this summer will be worse than those that are leaving.
So how do you improve on a league position with a worse & smaller squad and a managerial team with no experience in this league where physical football is paramount?
As far as I can see, the Championship as a whole will be stronger next season than it was last season, but Saints are getting weaker.
Right now, before a ball is kicked, I have to come to the conclusion that it's likely we will be in a relegation fight from day one.
Can anyone give me strong reasons as to why we won't be?
Posted by: realist on 11:15am Mon 7 Jul 08
[italic]italic[/italic]Sad to see Safri go, I just hope we manage to hold on to some of our senior players. I really think we need to keep hold of Surman, A.Davies, Viafara, Skacel, Rasiak & Stern John.
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Sorry to disagree, I think Safri was OK but just a stopgap. Also, of that list, we could afford to lose Surman and John and still have a reasonable squad, provided we can afford to ikeep the rest.
And the idea of bringing in Richard Wright and selling Kelvin Davis to Ipswich is a really mouth-watering prospect.
Could do with a couple of full-backs, though (how about Chris Baird on a season-long loan?) and then we're ready to roll.
Sad to see Safri go, I just hope we manage to hold on to some of our senior players. I really think we need to keep hold of Surman, A.Davies, Viafara, Skacel, Rasiak & Stern John.
Sorry to disagree, I think Safri was OK but just a stopgap. Also, of that list, we could afford to lose Surman and John and still have a reasonable squad, provided we can afford to ikeep the rest.
And the idea of bringing in Richard Wright and selling Kelvin Davis to Ipswich is a really mouth-watering prospect.
Could do with a couple of full-backs, though (how about Chris Baird on a season-long loan?) and then we're ready to roll.
Posted by: Pass the Dutchie on 11:20am Mon 7 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Jannersaint[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Pass the Dutchie[/bold] wrote: Population of Holland is about 16m compared to 60m in the UK. So a much much smaller pool of players and I think you'll find the Dutch 2nd Division is a low standard and on a par with the old 4th division/Conference and those clubs have crowds of a similar size and financially are semi-professional.[/quote] How many of the 60m british play top flight football? The one difference is the dutch league is made up of African and South Americans gaining euro passports. The quality in the Dutch leagues are not from the Dutch players so population isn't the point. Population of Portugal is only 10M and spain 20M less than Britain. [/quote] The point was about the relative strengths of the leagues, not how the national teams do.
England has many strong leagues because of the size of the population. Holland has some very good teams in the top half of it's top division, but from then down, the standard drops off dramatically. They don't even have enough teams to have a 3rd division. The league that Helmond play in, although the "2nd division" is actually the bottom one of their professional/semi-pr
o set-up.
I'd say it's similar to Scotland. Would you say the Scottish First division is on a par with the English Championship? I wouldn't and neither is the Dutch.
Jannersaint wrote:
Pass the Dutchie wrote: Population of Holland is about 16m compared to 60m in the UK. So a much much smaller pool of players and I think you'll find the Dutch 2nd Division is a low standard and on a par with the old 4th division/Conference and those clubs have crowds of a similar size and financially are semi-professional.
How many of the 60m british play top flight football? The one difference is the dutch league is made up of African and South Americans gaining euro passports. The quality in the Dutch leagues are not from the Dutch players so population isn't the point. Population of Portugal is only 10M and spain 20M less than Britain.
The point was about the relative strengths of the leagues, not how the national teams do.
England has many strong leagues because of the size of the population. Holland has some very good teams in the top half of it's top division, but from then down, the standard drops off dramatically. They don't even have enough teams to have a 3rd division. The league that Helmond play in, although the "2nd division" is actually the bottom one of their professional/semi-pr
o set-up.
I'd say it's similar to Scotland. Would you say the Scottish First division is on a par with the English Championship? I wouldn't and neither is the Dutch.
Posted by: diretimes, southampton on 11:34am Mon 7 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Lets face it[/bold] wrote:
... any players arriving at Saints this summer will be worse than those that are leaving.
So how do you improve on a league position with a worse & smaller squad and a managerial team with no experience in this league where physical football is paramount?
As far as I can see, the Championship as a whole will be stronger next season than it was last season, but Saints are getting weaker.
Right now, before a ball is kicked, I have to come to the conclusion that it's likely we will be in a relegation fight from day one.
Can anyone give me strong reasons as to why we won't be?[/quote] Unfortunately you are 100% correct I made a similar post last week and got slagged off and told I don't know anything about football. It is time these people stopped believing their heart and started to get realistic, unless money is found soon to buy championship standard players a very disappointing season is coming soon, be prepared for relegation.
Lets face it wrote:
... any players arriving at Saints this summer will be worse than those that are leaving.
So how do you improve on a league position with a worse & smaller squad and a managerial team with no experience in this league where physical football is paramount?
As far as I can see, the Championship as a whole will be stronger next season than it was last season, but Saints are getting weaker.
Right now, before a ball is kicked, I have to come to the conclusion that it's likely we will be in a relegation fight from day one.
Can anyone give me strong reasons as to why we won't be?
Unfortunately you are 100% correct I made a similar post last week and got slagged off and told I don't know anything about football. It is time these people stopped believing their heart and started to get realistic, unless money is found soon to buy championship standard players a very disappointing season is coming soon, be prepared for relegation.
Posted by: Jannersaint, Plymuff on 11:47am Mon 7 Jul 08
Doesn't seem that we disagree then according to your last post. I suppose my point is there are good players at every level, even scottish first division that could benefit our squad.
Doesn't seem that we disagree then according to your last post. I suppose my point is there are good players at every level, even scottish first division that could benefit our squad.
Posted by: ugly insider on 12:24pm Mon 7 Jul 08
Old news im afraid as this was revealed last week on theuglyinside website.
Old news im afraid as this was revealed last week on theuglyinside website.
Posted by: Iain, Lordshill on 12:45pm Mon 7 Jul 08
[quote][bold]saint steve[/bold] wrote:
Sad to see Safri go, I just hope we manage to hold on to some of our senior players. I really think we need to keep hold of Surman, A.Davies, Viafara, Skacel, Rasiak & Stern John. Not sure how far off a take over is (or how much truth their is to the story), but if it's gonna happen it had better had quick sharp so we can bring in some players & before our best players are sold off. If a take over did happen & Shearer was brought in I believe Jan & Mark should be kept on as coaches, as they're both on reasonably low wages. Also did any one see the story in The Star yesterday about Kelvin Davis going to Ipswich this week? I really hope this is true, I know Ipswich fans actually rate Davis. Also says we're bringing in Spurs keeper Tommy Forecast, but I hope we bring in Richard Wright. Sounds like BS, but fingers crossed... COYR![/quote] Blimey - a rumour that turns out to be true (the last paart at least)! Must be a first for this website!
saint steve wrote:
Sad to see Safri go, I just hope we manage to hold on to some of our senior players. I really think we need to keep hold of Surman, A.Davies, Viafara, Skacel, Rasiak & Stern John. Not sure how far off a take over is (or how much truth their is to the story), but if it's gonna happen it had better had quick sharp so we can bring in some players & before our best players are sold off. If a take over did happen & Shearer was brought in I believe Jan & Mark should be kept on as coaches, as they're both on reasonably low wages. Also did any one see the story in The Star yesterday about Kelvin Davis going to Ipswich this week? I really hope this is true, I know Ipswich fans actually rate Davis. Also says we're bringing in Spurs keeper Tommy Forecast, but I hope we bring in Richard Wright. Sounds like BS, but fingers crossed... COYR!
Blimey - a rumour that turns out to be true (the last paart at least)! Must be a first for this website!
Posted by: Condor Man, Southampton on 1:37pm Mon 7 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Jannersaint[/bold] wrote:
Doesn't seem that we disagree then according to your last post. I suppose my point is there are good players at every level, even scottish first division that could benefit our squad.[/quote] Since relegation we've seen so called top foreign players like Kosowski, Hajto, Skacel and the like come in and do bugger all. The players that have stood out since 2005 have all been sold on- Walcott, Bale, Baird and Jones most notably.
If we are heading towards the abyss then it's time to change tack and develop a team that can win more games that it loses (especially at home) as that will keep us up.
Jannersaint wrote:
Doesn't seem that we disagree then according to your last post. I suppose my point is there are good players at every level, even scottish first division that could benefit our squad.
Since relegation we've seen so called top foreign players like Kosowski, Hajto, Skacel and the like come in and do bugger all. The players that have stood out since 2005 have all been sold on- Walcott, Bale, Baird and Jones most notably.
If we are heading towards the abyss then it's time to change tack and develop a team that can win more games that it loses (especially at home) as that will keep us up.
Posted by: Mmmmm, here, there, everwhere on 1:43pm Mon 7 Jul 08
correct me if I am wrong, but, I am fairly sure that Jim Magilton took over a struggling Ipswich side and took the brave step of blooding a lot of the youngsters who narrowly beat noneother than a Saints side in the FA youth cup... supplementing them with solid CCC players like Alan Lee.
It has seen gradual improvement over his time with them and while many of our younger players are still not getting games for us (and some left to seek regular games elsewhere) theirs are playing regularly and pushing Ipswich up the league.
I personally would much prefer us to get promoted over the next 2 or 3 seasons with mostly home-grown, young players than gamble on signing a load of old pros of questionable commitment in a glory or bust attempt at promotion this season.
correct me if I am wrong, but, I am fairly sure that Jim Magilton took over a struggling Ipswich side and took the brave step of blooding a lot of the youngsters who narrowly beat noneother than a Saints side in the FA youth cup... supplementing them with solid CCC players like Alan Lee.
It has seen gradual improvement over his time with them and while many of our younger players are still not getting games for us (and some left to seek regular games elsewhere) theirs are playing regularly and pushing Ipswich up the league.
I personally would much prefer us to get promoted over the next 2 or 3 seasons with mostly home-grown, young players than gamble on signing a load of old pros of questionable commitment in a glory or bust attempt at promotion this season.
Posted by: allsaintsnocurves, southampton on 1:59pm Mon 7 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Lets face it[/bold] wrote:
... any players arriving at Saints this summer will be worse than those that are leaving. So how do you improve on a league position with a worse & smaller squad and a managerial team with no experience in this league where physical football is paramount? As far as I can see, the Championship as a whole will be stronger next season than it was last season, but Saints are getting weaker. Right now, before a ball is kicked, I have to come to the conclusion that it\'s likely we will be in a relegation fight from day one. Can anyone give me strong reasons as to why we won\'t be?[/quote] I can give you a good reason. Ever since Saints got relegated from the Premiership we have been one of the favourites to bounce straight back up...but instead we have seen the likes of Bristol City, Hull and Sunderland after a poor start to the season make a better fist of it....the point is the Championship is about getting a team playing together and not necessarily about having the best so called players in the league.
I'm not saying for one minute that we will finish top but we could just well surprise a few teams because of the way all fans hope we will play and that no other treams will know much about us anymore!
Lets face it wrote:
... any players arriving at Saints this summer will be worse than those that are leaving. So how do you improve on a league position with a worse & smaller squad and a managerial team with no experience in this league where physical football is paramount? As far as I can see, the Championship as a whole will be stronger next season than it was last season, but Saints are getting weaker. Right now, before a ball is kicked, I have to come to the conclusion that it\'s likely we will be in a relegation fight from day one. Can anyone give me strong reasons as to why we won\'t be?
I can give you a good reason. Ever since Saints got relegated from the Premiership we have been one of the favourites to bounce straight back up...but instead we have seen the likes of Bristol City, Hull and Sunderland after a poor start to the season make a better fist of it....the point is the Championship is about getting a team playing together and not necessarily about having the best so called players in the league.
I'm not saying for one minute that we will finish top but we could just well surprise a few teams because of the way all fans hope we will play and that no other treams will know much about us anymore!
Posted by: rational on 3:21pm Mon 7 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Lets face it[/bold] wrote:
... any players arriving at Saints this summer will be worse than those that are leaving. So how do you improve on a league position with a worse & smaller squad and a managerial team with no experience in this league where physical football is paramount? As far as I can see, the Championship as a whole will be stronger next season than it was last season, but Saints are getting weaker. Right now, before a ball is kicked, I have to come to the conclusion that it's likely we will be in a relegation fight from day one. Can anyone give me strong reasons as to why we won't be?[/quote] Main reason - George Burley!
Starting the season with keen, motivated management will be a breath of fresh air after the start of last year.
As for any new players being worse, not sure I agree. Of those that have left (so far) none have really impressed in their time here, reasonable players at best.
Lets face it wrote:
... any players arriving at Saints this summer will be worse than those that are leaving. So how do you improve on a league position with a worse & smaller squad and a managerial team with no experience in this league where physical football is paramount? As far as I can see, the Championship as a whole will be stronger next season than it was last season, but Saints are getting weaker. Right now, before a ball is kicked, I have to come to the conclusion that it's likely we will be in a relegation fight from day one. Can anyone give me strong reasons as to why we won't be?
Main reason - George Burley!
Starting the season with keen, motivated management will be a breath of fresh air after the start of last year.
As for any new players being worse, not sure I agree. Of those that have left (so far) none have really impressed in their time here, reasonable players at best.
Posted by: afeeman10, in my back garden on 4:11pm Mon 7 Jul 08
well if u ask me i think he has been one of the more positive and better players, all the rest couldnt be asked to pick up the **** ball when it went out for a throw let alone kicking the **** thing, it will be a big loss for saints, hope the other two are just as good ( if not better) good luck safri hope it gose well
well if u ask me i think he has been one of the more positive and better players, all the rest couldnt be asked to pick up the **** ball when it went out for a throw let alone kicking the **** thing, it will be a big loss for saints, hope the other two are just as good ( if not better) good luck safri hope it gose well
Posted by: NC Fan for Life on 4:56pm Mon 7 Jul 08
This is no shock Simon Carter (Daily Echo), we all know that Safri is one of five or six players on the transfer list, we have signed a couple of players for his position and we have recovered what we paid for him.
This is no shock Simon Carter (Daily Echo), we all know that Safri is one of five or six players on the transfer list, we have signed a couple of players for his position and we have recovered what we paid for him.
Posted by: Artful Dodger, Millbrook on 5:05pm Mon 7 Jul 08
[quote][bold]NC Fan for Life[/bold] wrote:
This is no shock Simon Carter (Daily Echo), we all know that Safri is one of five or six players on the transfer list, we have signed a couple of players for his position and we have recovered what we paid for him. [/quote] Another smart piece of business by Rupert, our glorious leader, then.
NC Fan for Life wrote:
This is no shock Simon Carter (Daily Echo), we all know that Safri is one of five or six players on the transfer list, we have signed a couple of players for his position and we have recovered what we paid for him.
Another smart piece of business by Rupert, our glorious leader, then.
Posted by: saintly on 7:03pm Mon 7 Jul 08
[quote][bold]??????[/bold] wrote:
Why is there no fee in this transfer?[/quote] Cos he aint worth fukc all you numpty !
?????? wrote:
Why is there no fee in this transfer?
Cos he aint worth fukc all you numpty !
Posted by: Paul, Netley on 7:08pm Mon 7 Jul 08
I wish people would stop moaning bout saints situation. Season not even started. The players that have gone were all rubbish, been replaced with positive signings, good to see a manager wanting to use our youngsters that have come through the academy that has had lots of money pumped into. If us fans start getting negative, how will this help the team.
I wish people would stop moaning bout saints situation. Season not even started. The players that have gone were all rubbish, been replaced with positive signings, good to see a manager wanting to use our youngsters that have come through the academy that has had lots of money pumped into. If us fans start getting negative, how will this help the team.
Posted by: crew 657, new forest on 7:19pm Mon 7 Jul 08
safri today commented " I thought southampton were a well supported club but my time here has taught me otherwise. At least Im going to a big club with real fans, and also going to a beautiful city not a wasteland like southampton that i thought would have been repaired after WW2. Also the white feather is a bad omen to those of us from the east, and southampton fans it seems are recipients of huge amounts of white feathers, especially in millbrook and sholing"
safri today commented " I thought southampton were a well supported club but my time here has taught me otherwise. At least Im going to a big club with real fans, and also going to a beautiful city not a wasteland like southampton that i thought would have been repaired after WW2. Also the white feather is a bad omen to those of us from the east, and southampton fans it seems are recipients of huge amounts of white feathers, especially in millbrook and sholing"
Posted by: Jesus_02, Kingsland on 7:35pm Mon 7 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Condor Man[/bold] wrote:
I'm not anti-Safri, I'm pro-Saints. If we need to reduce the wage bill to stay out of trouble it's a win win situation if a player can move on for a bigger deal than we could offer anyway. As for Euell and Rasiak, I'd never be suprised if they were moved on too.[/quote] "we need to reduce the wage bill to stay out of trouble"
Unbelievable!!
Safri was possibly the most consistant performer for saints last season. He will be truely missed.
Come the end of the season we may well "be in trouble" if we ship out [bold]all[/bold] the quailty
Condor Man wrote:
I'm not anti-Safri, I'm pro-Saints. If we need to reduce the wage bill to stay out of trouble it's a win win situation if a player can move on for a bigger deal than we could offer anyway. As for Euell and Rasiak, I'd never be suprised if they were moved on too.
"we need to reduce the wage bill to stay out of trouble"
Unbelievable!!
Safri was possibly the most consistant performer for saints last season. He will be truely missed.
Come the end of the season we may well "be in trouble" if we ship out
all the quailty
Posted by: Jesus_02, Kingsland on 7:37pm Mon 7 Jul 08
[quote][bold]John B[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Ray[/bold] wrote: HAS ANYONE ELSE NOTICED HOW QUIET RUPERT OOPS SORRY JOHN B IS LATELY, OR IS IT JUST ME[/quote] With Stupid Comments Like that it is not surprising I am not posting anymore. [/quote] Yes you are!!
John B wrote:
Ray wrote: HAS ANYONE ELSE NOTICED HOW QUIET RUPERT OOPS SORRY JOHN B IS LATELY, OR IS IT JUST ME
With Stupid Comments Like that it is not surprising I am not posting anymore.
Yes you are!!
Posted by: Jesus_02, kingsland on 7:40pm Mon 7 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Jannersaint[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Pass the Dutchie[/bold] wrote: We really will be in a state if signing players from Helmond, a semi-pro team, is what we resort to. Might as well sign players from Bashley or Eastleigh, they'll be of the same standard.[/quote] Helmond play in the Earste Division; the dutch version of the championship. They're a proffessional side. What on earth you talking about Dutchie? Is the Dutch second league that far below the English? I think not. I think I've spelt Proffessional wrong and I've never known when to use a semi colon so lets keep the discussions football people.[/quote] Name three teams in the Earste Dividsion (without using wikipedia!)
Jannersaint wrote:
Pass the Dutchie wrote: We really will be in a state if signing players from Helmond, a semi-pro team, is what we resort to. Might as well sign players from Bashley or Eastleigh, they'll be of the same standard.
Helmond play in the Earste Division; the dutch version of the championship. They're a proffessional side. What on earth you talking about Dutchie? Is the Dutch second league that far below the English? I think not. I think I've spelt Proffessional wrong and I've never known when to use a semi colon so lets keep the discussions football people.
Name three teams in the Earste Dividsion (without using wikipedia!)
Posted by: Jesus_02, Kingsland on 7:47pm Mon 7 Jul 08
[quote][bold]diretimes[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Lets face it[/bold] wrote: ... any players arriving at Saints this summer will be worse than those that are leaving. So how do you improve on a league position with a worse &amp; smaller squad and a managerial team with no experience in this league where physical football is paramount? As far as I can see, the Championship as a whole will be stronger next season than it was last season, but Saints are getting weaker. Right now, before a ball is kicked, I have to come to the conclusion that it's likely we will be in a relegation fight from day one. Can anyone give me strong reasons as to why we won't be?[/quote] Unfortunately you are 100% correct I made a similar post last week and got slagged off and told I don't know anything about football. It is time these people stopped believing their heart and started to get realistic, unless money is found soon to buy championship standard players a very disappointing season is coming soon, be prepared for relegation.[/quote] As much as i hate to admit it I agree.
The horrible part will be at Christmas when we start to panick buy, and Pork Fillet hasnt got a clue who to draft in
diretimes wrote:
Lets face it wrote: ... any players arriving at Saints this summer will be worse than those that are leaving. So how do you improve on a league position with a worse &amp; smaller squad and a managerial team with no experience in this league where physical football is paramount? As far as I can see, the Championship as a whole will be stronger next season than it was last season, but Saints are getting weaker. Right now, before a ball is kicked, I have to come to the conclusion that it's likely we will be in a relegation fight from day one. Can anyone give me strong reasons as to why we won't be?
Unfortunately you are 100% correct I made a similar post last week and got slagged off and told I don't know anything about football. It is time these people stopped believing their heart and started to get realistic, unless money is found soon to buy championship standard players a very disappointing season is coming soon, be prepared for relegation.
As much as i hate to admit it I agree.
The horrible part will be at Christmas when we start to panick buy, and Pork Fillet hasnt got a clue who to draft in
Posted by: Tracey, Southampton on 8:30pm Mon 7 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]diretimes[/bold] wrote: [quote][bold]Lets face it[/bold] wrote: ... any players arriving at Saints this summer will be worse than those that are leaving. So how do you improve on a league position with a worse &amp;amp; smaller squad and a managerial team with no experience in this league where physical football is paramount? As far as I can see, the Championship as a whole will be stronger next season than it was last season, but Saints are getting weaker. Right now, before a ball is kicked, I have to come to the conclusion that it's likely we will be in a relegation fight from day one. Can anyone give me strong reasons as to why we won't be?[/quote] Unfortunately you are 100% correct I made a similar post last week and got slagged off and told I don't know anything about football. It is time these people stopped believing their heart and started to get realistic, unless money is found soon to buy championship standard players a very disappointing season is coming soon, be prepared for relegation.[/quote] As much as i hate to admit it I agree. The horrible part will be at Christmas when we start to panick buy, and Pork Fillet hasnt got a clue who to draft in[/quote] Thats a nice optimistic post, do you use your crystal balls to pick the numbers for the lottery? Bet you don't win much.
Jesus_02 wrote:
diretimes wrote: Lets face it wrote: ... any players arriving at Saints this summer will be worse than those that are leaving. So how do you improve on a league position with a worse &amp;amp; smaller squad and a managerial team with no experience in this league where physical football is paramount? As far as I can see, the Championship as a whole will be stronger next season than it was last season, but Saints are getting weaker. Right now, before a ball is kicked, I have to come to the conclusion that it's likely we will be in a relegation fight from day one. Can anyone give me strong reasons as to why we won't be?
Unfortunately you are 100% correct I made a similar post last week and got slagged off and told I don't know anything about football. It is time these people stopped believing their heart and started to get realistic, unless money is found soon to buy championship standard players a very disappointing season is coming soon, be prepared for relegation.
As much as i hate to admit it I agree. The horrible part will be at Christmas when we start to panick buy, and Pork Fillet hasnt got a clue who to draft in
Thats a nice optimistic post, do you use your crystal balls to pick the numbers for the lottery? Bet you don't win much.
Posted by: David Crook, Yorkshire on 8:44pm Mon 7 Jul 08
It just gets better and better,now that professional people are back at saints I feel so much more relaxed.
come on saints
David Crook
It just gets better and better,now that professional people are back at saints I feel so much more relaxed.
come on saints
David Crook
Posted by: Arthur, Soton on 11:19pm Mon 7 Jul 08
[quote][bold]Fact hunt[/bold] wrote:
Fact remains, our squad is weaker than it was at the close of the season. We all know the reasons, but Safri leaving is disappointing, but not unexpected. Viafara, Surman, Stern John, Skacel and probably Rasiak are next. We'll be left with a squad of around 20 pros. That's just not enough.[/quote] Aston villa had a squad of only 21 players last season, and they came 6th so I dont think it's much of a problem, although we do need a bit of cover at right back! Safri isn't too big a loss and I am really looking forward to seeing Morgan Schneiderlin playing regularly. Bring on the new season because at the end of last season, I thought we would just be selling players but we have ALREADY bought in 5 PLAYERS>>>
Comon u reds!!!!!!!!
Fact hunt wrote:
Fact remains, our squad is weaker than it was at the close of the season. We all know the reasons, but Safri leaving is disappointing, but not unexpected. Viafara, Surman, Stern John, Skacel and probably Rasiak are next. We'll be left with a squad of around 20 pros. That's just not enough.
Aston villa had a squad of only 21 players last season, and they came 6th so I dont think it's much of a problem, although we do need a bit of cover at right back! Safri isn't too big a loss and I am really looking forward to seeing Morgan Schneiderlin playing regularly. Bring on the new season because at the end of last season, I thought we would just be selling players but we have ALREADY bought in 5 PLAYERS>>>
Comon u reds!!!!!!!!
Posted by: threestands, Bournemouth on 10:21am Tue 8 Jul 08
[quote][bold]stew[/bold] wrote:
did anyone see the daily star yesterday,about alan shearer coming to saints as manager.i reckon he might be investing in the club [/quote] Daily Star....ha ha ha ha ha ha sums you up
stew wrote:
did anyone see the daily star yesterday,about alan shearer coming to saints as manager.i reckon he might be investing in the club
Daily Star....ha ha ha ha ha ha sums you up
Posted by: threestands, Bournemouth on 10:26am Tue 8 Jul 08
[quote][bold]diretimes[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]Lets face it[/bold] wrote: ... any players arriving at Saints this summer will be worse than those that are leaving. So how do you improve on a league position with a worse &amp; smaller squad and a managerial team with no experience in this league where physical football is paramount? As far as I can see, the Championship as a whole will be stronger next season than it was last season, but Saints are getting weaker. Right now, before a ball is kicked, I have to come to the conclusion that it's likely we will be in a relegation fight from day one. Can anyone give me strong reasons as to why we won't be?[/quote] Unfortunately you are 100% correct I made a similar post last week and got slagged off and told I don't know anything about football. It is time these people stopped believing their heart and started to get realistic, unless money is found soon to buy championship standard players a very disappointing season is coming soon, be prepared for relegation.[/quote] Bigoted fool
diretimes wrote:
Lets face it wrote: ... any players arriving at Saints this summer will be worse than those that are leaving. So how do you improve on a league position with a worse &amp; smaller squad and a managerial team with no experience in this league where physical football is paramount? As far as I can see, the Championship as a whole will be stronger next season than it was last season, but Saints are getting weaker. Right now, before a ball is kicked, I have to come to the conclusion that it's likely we will be in a relegation fight from day one. Can anyone give me strong reasons as to why we won't be?
Unfortunately you are 100% correct I made a similar post last week and got slagged off and told I don't know anything about football. It is time these people stopped believing their heart and started to get realistic, unless money is found soon to buy championship standard players a very disappointing season is coming soon, be prepared for relegation.
Bigoted fool
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