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Viafara future in doubt after friendly misery
6:34am Wednesday 23rd July 2008
Comments (49)
By Adrian Kajumba »
SAINTS head coach Jan Poortvliet plans to hold vital talks with Jhon Viafara today to discuss the player's future at the club.
Viafara made his first appearance of pre-season in the 3-2 win at Weymouth last night.
But the Colombian was hauled off after just 28 minutes with Poortvliet saying he was disappointed with his start to the game, in which he conceded a ninth minute penalty, and the fact he reacted to a decision going against him by kicking the ball into the crowd.
The Dutchman said Viafara has already told him that he is currently unsettled at St Mary's due to family reasons. He admitted that could have played a part in the 29-year-old's performance against the Blue Square Conference outfit.
Explaining the decision to substitute Viafara, Poortvliet said: "I was disappointed. Very disappointed.
"Jhon was not really concentrated and he was not involved with the game.
"I saw the warm up and I was not happy by the warm up. I took him off because he made some big mistakes - he gave the penalty away - but he also made a big mistake when he lost concentration and he put the ball away (into the crowd) like you don't have to do in a friendly game.
"It was not honest to do that."
Poortvliet added: "I spoke to him last Saturday and a big problem is he is missing his family and he is having a sad time here.
"That can be a problem. Your family is not here and you feel you are alone. That can be a problem.
"But in football we need players who are involved with what we want to do."
Full story: See today's Daily Echo.
Your Say YourEcho
Gary D, bursledon says...
7:17am Wed 23 Jul 08
i think its quite refreshing ! before i thought he just wanted to move for money or he'd had enough.makes a change from hearing the fake injury story you normally hear in this situation
Wazza, says...
8:02am Wed 23 Jul 08
Sounds like an excuse to me a pre-cursor to him leaving.
john, salisbury says...
8:18am Wed 23 Jul 08
How many other championship sides could field three current international in their reserves (Viafara, Skacel, Saga)? Nobody could deny that Jhon was a fully commited and energetic member of a struggling team last season. So a little respect? I think he looked at his best when he first came into the side as a deep defensive midfielder playing just in front of the back four, a bit like Carlton Palmer did for a season. After a few cames he has never played there again.It will be a long hard season, and many of our opponents will lump the ball into our penalty area and hope for the legendary 'second ball'I doubt if our Dutchment have any idea how 'basic' much of our oposition will be, or how effective playing that way in our league often is.
Archers rd, Milton rd says...
8:24am Wed 23 Jul 08
john wrote:Well if thats the case then **** it... This has to be the most negative place on the internet ever!! Show some support.
How many other championship sides could field three current international in their reserves (Viafara, Skacel, Saga)? Nobody could deny that Jhon was a fully commited and energetic member of a struggling team last season. So a little respect? I think he looked at his best when he first came into the side as a deep defensive midfielder playing just in front of the back four, a bit like Carlton Palmer did for a season. After a few cames he has never played there again.It will be a long hard season, and many of our opponents will lump the ball into our penalty area and hope for the legendary \'second ball\'I doubt if our Dutchment have any idea how \'basic\' much of our oposition will be, or how effective playing that way in our league often is.
jimbo, soton says...
8:35am Wed 23 Jul 08
Redbridge wrote:Tough - HE is unprofessional letting his personal problems take over and playing like that when he is getting paid a ridiculous amount every week
I suspect Viafara will be even more unhappy now his manager has revealed his personal problems to the local newspaper. Very unprofessional.
Artful Dodger, Millbrook says...
8:54am Wed 23 Jul 08
Redbridge wrote:What personal problems? I can't see that any personal 'problems' have been revealed. It is possible that his family are away looking after an ill relative. It is possible that there is a marriage break-up. It is possible that his wife does not want to live here. There are a multitude of reasons, but NOTHING has been revealed. To offer a reason for him being unsettled is professional, otherwise muppets from Redbridge will want to crucify him for a lack-lustre performance.
I suspect Viafara will be even more unhappy now his manager has revealed his personal problems to the local newspaper. Very unprofessional.
Tiger, Winchester says...
9:01am Wed 23 Jul 08
JP must show his colours. Play your 1st X1 in the next couple of friendlies. Let go the players who don't want to be here (JV, RS and SJ). Here is my starting X1.
Davis,Davies,Svensso
n,Perry,Dyer,Wootton
,Surman,Schnerlin,Ho
lmes,John,Rasiak.
Yes that's a 3-2-3-2. Any other ideas.
Davis,Davies,Svensso
n,Perry,Dyer,Wootton
,Surman,Schnerlin,Ho
lmes,John,Rasiak.
Yes that's a 3-2-3-2. Any other ideas.
Phil, Downton says...
9:07am Wed 23 Jul 08
Oh please spare me this rubbish!!! Many people in a variety of jobs travel abroad to work for financial and career reasons. Missing the family is a price to be paid if someone decides to become an expat!! Noone forced JV to come to England, noone forced him to sign a contract to play football for presumably well above average wages, Missing Mummy is no excuse for poor performance, it is pathetic. What ever happened to professionalism?
The fact the Manager has stated the reasons he took JV off at Weymouth, also expressing his disappointment at JVs lack of committment is a refreshing change from all the meagre excuses that previous managers have used to cover up the fact that some players simply have a poor attitude to team and club and supporters. Money and Agents are regrettably the only motivators for some players.!!! I am looking forward to a season where every player who wears a saints shirt is totally committed to the cause. Come on you reds!!!
The fact the Manager has stated the reasons he took JV off at Weymouth, also expressing his disappointment at JVs lack of committment is a refreshing change from all the meagre excuses that previous managers have used to cover up the fact that some players simply have a poor attitude to team and club and supporters. Money and Agents are regrettably the only motivators for some players.!!! I am looking forward to a season where every player who wears a saints shirt is totally committed to the cause. Come on you reds!!!
dangerousMike, Romsey Station says...
9:12am Wed 23 Jul 08
Phil wrote:You might need to take up watching the under 18's to see that i'm afraid! Still glad to see a manager wanting commitment to the team from all his players, something that most of the top clubs are pretty hot on so there is obviously something in it.
Oh please spare me this rubbish!!! Many people in a variety of jobs travel abroad to work for financial and career reasons. Missing the family is a price to be paid if someone decides to become an expat!! Noone forced JV to come to England, noone forced him to sign a contract to play football for presumably well above average wages, Missing Mummy is no excuse for poor performance, it is pathetic. What ever happened to professionalism? The fact the Manager has stated the reasons he took JV off at Weymouth, also expressing his disappointment at JVs lack of committment is a refreshing change from all the meagre excuses that previous managers have used to cover up the fact that some players simply have a poor attitude to team and club and supporters. Money and Agents are regrettably the only motivators for some players.!!! I am looking forward to a season where every player who wears a saints shirt is totally committed to the cause. Come on you reds!!!
Pedro Diniz, Brazil says...
9:15am Wed 23 Jul 08
Where abouts are his family living? Columbia? How long has he been in England? FFS.
Egomaniac, Southampton says...
9:21am Wed 23 Jul 08
Glenn:
I personally think Redbridge has summed you up exactly. You clearly have no command of the English language, certainly you have a very limited vocabulary, and appear to be able only to support your case with abusive and foul language.
I would go further than Redbridge - you border on the retard!
I personally think Redbridge has summed you up exactly. You clearly have no command of the English language, certainly you have a very limited vocabulary, and appear to be able only to support your case with abusive and foul language.
I would go further than Redbridge - you border on the retard!
the gingerbread man, says...
9:31am Wed 23 Jul 08
It will be a cold day in hell befor another player like Jhon graces the hallowed turf of st Mary's with the particular combination of grace and power that Viafarra posseses. Thanks for the memories big guy!
Prof, The Bunker says...
9:41am Wed 23 Jul 08
I always thought that Viafara would grow into a Legend for Saints, but he has become just another free loader. I cannot remember him putting a fully committed 90 minutes for Saints. His late return from summer break and attitude last night are an insult to every hard working Saints supporter. It is a petty as, along with the promise of our younster, a Viafara with the right attitude would havew added much need muscle to our side for The Championship. We do need to bring in some muscle, but only if the players are 110% committed. I don't disagree too much with The Tigers team selection, although worried about the full backs for pace, and that Killer will be fit enough to start the season. Also, not convinced on Wotton - "are you Jermain Wright in disguise"?? I will remain Saints Forever.
Rich., Southampton says...
9:59am Wed 23 Jul 08
What is it with this site. Absolutely no subject can go through without it turning into a slanging match. I say well done Jan for quickly putting fans in the picture, I'm sure most people would have just thought Viafara was looking to move to another club.
BigRich1980, Cyprus says...
10:13am Wed 23 Jul 08
I quite agree - He gets paid a ridculous amount of money to ship his family over or compensate him for being away from them, I must admit i know where i would rather live, Columbia or Southampton, maybe they moved to Portsmouth and that was why she went back.
P.S Does anyone else sometimes have issues getting your post submitted
P.S Does anyone else sometimes have issues getting your post submitted
Kate, Andover says...
10:34am Wed 23 Jul 08
Artful Dodger wrote:Personal problems are so-called because they are just that: personal. I doubt Jhon would appreciate the press and fans knowing about his personal problems as I'm sure you wouldn't, if it were you.
Redbridge wrote: I suspect Viafara will be even more unhappy now his manager has revealed his personal problems to the local newspaper. Very unprofessional.What personal problems? I can't see that any personal 'problems' have been revealed. It is possible that his family are away looking after an ill relative. It is possible that there is a marriage break-up. It is possible that his wife does not want to live here. There are a multitude of reasons, but NOTHING has been revealed. To offer a reason for him being unsettled is professional, otherwise muppets from Redbridge will want to crucify him for a lack-lustre performance.
Tha fact is, he's obviously got something going on, whether it's family, medical or just using it as a mask for not enjoying his football over here, but he has to sit down with the manager and work out what he wants to do. Which is what he's doing.
All we can do is wish him all the best. I personally think he had a terrible season just gone, he very rarely played a whole 90 mins and do I remember right in thinking he had some family issues so he was away from the team for a couple of weeks??
He played very well the season before and I thought he could have been a legend.
Whatever happens (stay or go?) I wish him the best and hope he sorts himself out quickly.
LOWE OUT!!, LOWE OUT!!! says...
11:17am Wed 23 Jul 08
LOWE OUT!!!!!
LOWE OUT!!!!!
LOWE OUT!!!!!
LOWE OUT!!!!!
LOWE OUT!!!!!
LOWE OUT!!!!!
LOWE OUT!!!!!
LOWE OUT!!!!!
LOWE OUT!!!!!
Iain, Lordshill says...
11:53am Wed 23 Jul 08
Go Lowe is running in the 2.10 at Worcester today. Put some cash on it and buy the club yourself (won at 10-1 last time out).
saint stephen, says...
12:16pm Wed 23 Jul 08
Only wanted to leave when Lowe and the Dutch donkey arrived.
Egomaniac, Southampton says...
12:24pm Wed 23 Jul 08
saint stephen:
Interesting comment! Is it an informed viewpoint? How much do you actually know about the Dutch manager that you can use such insulting language about him?
I am always very suspicious of people's arguments when they can only resort to abuse and name calling.
Why not try learning some English so that you might be able to express yourself with more effect?
Interesting comment! Is it an informed viewpoint? How much do you actually know about the Dutch manager that you can use such insulting language about him?
I am always very suspicious of people's arguments when they can only resort to abuse and name calling.
Why not try learning some English so that you might be able to express yourself with more effect?
Solent Saint, Netley says...
12:39pm Wed 23 Jul 08
LOWE OUT!! wrote:Schools out!
LOWE OUT!!!!! LOWE OUT!!!!! LOWE OUT!!!!! LOWE OUT!!!!! LOWE OUT!!!!!
Saint stephen, fareham says...
12:57pm Wed 23 Jul 08
Egomaniac wrote:Lowe out and take the Nice Dutch man with you (is that better)
saint stephen: Interesting comment! Is it an informed viewpoint? How much do you actually know about the Dutch manager that you can use such insulting language about him? I am always very suspicious of people's arguments when they can only resort to abuse and name calling. Why not try learning some English so that you might be able to express yourself with more effect?
mockme, says...
1:04pm Wed 23 Jul 08
Viafaraway is rubbish but he is still like well better than that other lot. Never mind you cant win nuffin with kids try you cant win anything with midgets. what is this dutch t0sser doin floggin our first team for a spliff fund or sommit
Andy, Locks Heath says...
1:09pm Wed 23 Jul 08
Redbridge wrote:Kicking the ball into the crowd is not only unprofessional, it is a stupid, nasty, infantile indication of a typically spoilt and pampered footballer. It should have been a fine of two weeks wages and an apology because for all he knew he could have hit a young fan in the face and with his skill and commitment the ball could have gone anywhere..Everyone here attacking the manager for speaking openly rather than caving in to the pathetic Ferguson like practice of protecting his footballers as though they are petulant children needs their head examining. And in what way did Lowe cause Viafara to have a bad game exactly? Did the nasty chairman upset the poor little millionaire footballer then? awwwww.
I suspect Viafara will be even more unhappy now his manager has revealed his personal problems to the local newspaper. Very unprofessional.
Dowayne Neufville, Southampton says...
1:53pm Wed 23 Jul 08
LOL, were have only lost to celtic so far. have a manager that seems to mean business and wants the very best out of his players yet all people do is complain.Imagine we lost all our games and the manager did not have a clue, how would people react.If you really care about saints then do as much as you can to support, doesn't have to cost anything.Right now the manager is one of the most commited fans i,ve seen. Saints through good and Bad.
Martin Wild, Lymington says...
2:26pm Wed 23 Jul 08
It seems to me that apart from Celtic , the games they have played they should not loose any way ,how about a few teams that should really test them ?
Captain Swing, Southampton says...
2:26pm Wed 23 Jul 08
For those of you visiting this site for the first time, you should be aware that most of the comments here are submitted under a pseudonym by Patrick Barlow; the creative genius behind the National Theatre of Brent, and are supposed to be funny. Although, sad to say, Barlow still cant get the number of laughs the journalist here unwittingly provoke.
Costa Baz, says...
2:26pm Wed 23 Jul 08
Dowayne Neufville wrote:Dowayne, you say "Imagine we lost all our games and the manager did not have a clue, how would people react."
LOL, were have only lost to celtic so far. have a manager that seems to mean business and wants the very best out of his players yet all people do is complain.Imagine we lost all our games and the manager did not have a clue, how would people react.If you really care about saints then do as much as you can to support, doesn't have to cost anything.Right now the manager is one of the most commited fans i,ve seen. Saints through good and Bad.
Let's hope we don't find out when the season kicks off!!!
Kate, Andover says...
2:31pm Wed 23 Jul 08
The vengeful cabage wrote:It's all very well saying somebody's useless and you wanna get rid of them but who would you be desperate to keep and why?
The vengeful cabage wrote: People i want out of the club: Stern John, sh1te and not commited to us Gregorz Rasiak, expensive beanpole + his name is diffcult to spell John Viafara, Not good enough on the ball Nathan Dyer, overated theiving g1t Bradley Wright-Phillips, theiving git Kelvin Davis, worst keeper in the whole history of any sport ever Michael Svenson, it would be nice but we cant risk paying him to be injured Rudi Skatchel, Cr@p and overpaid Rupert Lowe, Lying, cheating, self Centred, Vindictive, backstabbing beetroot faced kn0b Michael Wilde, Too soft and lets Lowe get away with too much This is not a diffinitive list just a few names off the top of my head, please feel free to add to it.Sorry forgot one... Andrew Surman, criminally overated, lacks pace and quality where it matters. Would be better to get what we can for him. Not a left back, not a left midfielder, not a central midfielder... therfore, useless!
Ian Owen, London says...
2:38pm Wed 23 Jul 08
Tiger wrote:I don't think we have a full 11 yet.
JP must show his colours. Play your 1st X1 in the next couple of friendlies. Let go the players who don't want to be here (JV, RS and SJ). Here is my starting X1.
Davis,Davies,Svensso
n,Perry,Dyer,Wootton
,Surman,Schnerlin,Ho
lmes,John,Rasiak.
Yes that's a 3-2-3-2. Any other ideas.
Davis, (No rb) Perry, Davies, (Excluded Svensson not on the books yet) (No left back), Dyer, Schnerlin, Viafari, Skacel, Lallana and John
Looks kinda sad and disappointing to me, but I've not lost the faith yet, looking forward to a few more signings and liking the idea of youth mixed with experience.
The vengefull Cabage, Bring me your Cauliflower so that i might eat it says...
2:46pm Wed 23 Jul 08
Kate wrote:Would want to keep;
The vengeful cabage wrote:It's all very well saying somebody's useless and you wanna get rid of them but who would you be desperate to keep and why?The vengeful cabage wrote: People i want out of the club: Stern John, sh1te and not commited to us Gregorz Rasiak, expensive beanpole + his name is diffcult to spell John Viafara, Not good enough on the ball Nathan Dyer, overated theiving g1t Bradley Wright-Phillips, theiving git Kelvin Davis, worst keeper in the whole history of any sport ever Michael Svenson, it would be nice but we cant risk paying him to be injured Rudi Skatchel, Cr@p and overpaid Rupert Lowe, Lying, cheating, self Centred, Vindictive, backstabbing beetroot faced kn0b Michael Wilde, Too soft and lets Lowe get away with too much This is not a diffinitive list just a few names off the top of my head, please feel free to add to it.Sorry forgot one... Andrew Surman, criminally overated, lacks pace and quality where it matters. Would be better to get what we can for him. Not a left back, not a left midfielder, not a central midfielder... therfore, useless!
Poortvielt, seems to have an idea
Lallana, looks neat and tidy on the ball
The rest not to fussed about, mostly seem to lack flair and tallent on the ball anyhow. But i blaim the parents and schoolteachers for giving them the wrong philosophy. People teach your children to be gready with the ball to want to run at and beat the defender rather than pass. It's the only way they learn!
Mental Mickey, Tatchbury says...
3:05pm Wed 23 Jul 08
Captain Swing wrote:The national theatre of Brent weren't ever funny anywhere - not even in Brent. I think we had to laugh at them back then to show how "anti Thatcher" we were. Unfortunately this encouraged alternative comedians such as Ben Elton - and apparently now Patrick Barlow - to think they were actually funny.
For those of you visiting this site for the first time, you should be aware that most of the comments here are submitted under a pseudonym by Patrick Barlow; the creative genius behind the National Theatre of Brent, and are supposed to be funny. Although, sad to say, Barlow still cant get the number of laughs the journalist here unwittingly provoke.
My God, how we paid for that mistake.
matty, southampton says...
5:50pm Wed 23 Jul 08
The vengefull Cabage wrote:Would that be the same teachers that taught you how to spell?? Blame not blaim, greedy not gready
Kate wrote:Would want to keep; Poortvielt, seems to have an idea Lallana, looks neat and tidy on the ball The rest not to fussed about, mostly seem to lack flair and tallent on the ball anyhow. But i blaim the parents and schoolteachers for giving them the wrong philosophy. People teach your children to be gready with the ball to want to run at and beat the defender rather than pass. It's the only way they learn!The vengeful cabage wrote:It's all very well saying somebody's useless and you wanna get rid of them but who would you be desperate to keep and why?The vengeful cabage wrote: People i want out of the club: Stern John, sh1te and not commited to us Gregorz Rasiak, expensive beanpole + his name is diffcult to spell John Viafara, Not good enough on the ball Nathan Dyer, overated theiving g1t Bradley Wright-Phillips, theiving git Kelvin Davis, worst keeper in the whole history of any sport ever Michael Svenson, it would be nice but we cant risk paying him to be injured Rudi Skatchel, Cr@p and overpaid Rupert Lowe, Lying, cheating, self Centred, Vindictive, backstabbing beetroot faced kn0b Michael Wilde, Too soft and lets Lowe get away with too much This is not a diffinitive list just a few names off the top of my head, please feel free to add to it.Sorry forgot one... Andrew Surman, criminally overated, lacks pace and quality where it matters. Would be better to get what we can for him. Not a left back, not a left midfielder, not a central midfielder... therfore, useless!
thedelldays, plymouth says...
6:23pm Wed 23 Jul 08
SO....Pearson comes in..tell us that we are not good enough and things have to change..wins a WHOLE 3 GAMES out of 17..leaves us alot closer to the drop than when he arrived and he is some sort of legend..
One of the new coaches states that one of the players is unhappy and will probably go and this is (and i quote one of you) "unprofessional"..
what a joke some of you are..I hope you moaners are the ones staying away in some sort of protest that im told will happen..
lol..
One of the new coaches states that one of the players is unhappy and will probably go and this is (and i quote one of you) "unprofessional"..
what a joke some of you are..I hope you moaners are the ones staying away in some sort of protest that im told will happen..
lol..
True Blue, Fareham says...
7:31pm Wed 23 Jul 08
The vengefull Cabage wrote:With a brain the size of a brussels sprout, it would also be an idea to keep a dictionary so that you know how to spell TALENT, even if you do not recognise it. BLAME, so that you know how to blame others and GREEDY, so that you can tell children to pass the ball instead of being greedy.
Kate wrote:Would want to keep; Poortvielt, seems to have an idea Lallana, looks neat and tidy on the ball The rest not to fussed about, mostly seem to lack flair and tallent on the ball anyhow. But i blaim the parents and schoolteachers for giving them the wrong philosophy. People teach your children to be gready with the ball to want to run at and beat the defender rather than pass. It's the only way they learn!The vengeful cabage wrote:It's all very well saying somebody's useless and you wanna get rid of them but who would you be desperate to keep and why?The vengeful cabage wrote: People i want out of the club: Stern John, sh1te and not commited to us Gregorz Rasiak, expensive beanpole + his name is diffcult to spell John Viafara, Not good enough on the ball Nathan Dyer, overated theiving g1t Bradley Wright-Phillips, theiving git Kelvin Davis, worst keeper in the whole history of any sport ever Michael Svenson, it would be nice but we cant risk paying him to be injured Rudi Skatchel, Cr@p and overpaid Rupert Lowe, Lying, cheating, self Centred, Vindictive, backstabbing beetroot faced kn0b Michael Wilde, Too soft and lets Lowe get away with too much This is not a diffinitive list just a few names off the top of my head, please feel free to add to it.Sorry forgot one... Andrew Surman, criminally overated, lacks pace and quality where it matters. Would be better to get what we can for him. Not a left back, not a left midfielder, not a central midfielder... therfore, useless!
Myself, says...
8:35pm Wed 23 Jul 08
True Blue wrote:F*ck off with your pompey ****
The vengefull Cabage wrote:With a brain the size of a brussels sprout, it would also be an idea to keep a dictionary so that you know how to spell TALENT, even if you do not recognise it. BLAME, so that you know how to blame others and GREEDY, so that you can tell children to pass the ball instead of being greedy.Kate wrote:Would want to keep; Poortvielt, seems to have an idea Lallana, looks neat and tidy on the ball The rest not to fussed about, mostly seem to lack flair and tallent on the ball anyhow. But i blaim the parents and schoolteachers for giving them the wrong philosophy. People teach your children to be gready with the ball to want to run at and beat the defender rather than pass. It's the only way they learn!The vengeful cabage wrote:It's all very well saying somebody's useless and you wanna get rid of them but who would you be desperate to keep and why?The vengeful cabage wrote: People i want out of the club: Stern John, sh1te and not commited to us Gregorz Rasiak, expensive beanpole + his name is diffcult to spell John Viafara, Not good enough on the ball Nathan Dyer, overated theiving g1t Bradley Wright-Phillips, theiving git Kelvin Davis, worst keeper in the whole history of any sport ever Michael Svenson, it would be nice but we cant risk paying him to be injured Rudi Skatchel, Cr@p and overpaid Rupert Lowe, Lying, cheating, self Centred, Vindictive, backstabbing beetroot faced kn0b Michael Wilde, Too soft and lets Lowe get away with too much This is not a diffinitive list just a few names off the top of my head, please feel free to add to it.Sorry forgot one... Andrew Surman, criminally overated, lacks pace and quality where it matters. Would be better to get what we can for him. Not a left back, not a left midfielder, not a central midfielder... therfore, useless!
Brother of Levelhead, Abingdon says...
8:49pm Wed 23 Jul 08
Once again, the negativity on this site is truly awesome! Obviously, the serious stuff has not started yet, but I have to say that so far everything JP has said and done gives me a lot more optimism than this time last year. He says what he thinks (in typical Dutch style!), has handled the Dyer and Viafara situations decisively, is committed to playing 'proper' football, and looks as though he will pick on merit, rather than GB with his favourites. He quite clearly feels he has something to prove, not just to us, but to people in Holland where he feels he has not had a fair crack. He is hungry, takes no sh1te, and will demand the same commitment from the players. Give the guy a chance, we might be pleasantly surprised, and even if we are not, he is all we've got!!!!
The voice of Portsmouth, says...
10:05pm Wed 23 Jul 08
let's be honest, Viafara is turd. International yeah, but then even Zambia a national team.
Captain Swing, Southampton says...
10:40pm Wed 23 Jul 08
Mental Mickey wrote:Well, we can agree to disagree on the National Theatre of Brent, but how do you think Barlow is doing with the above?
Captain Swing wrote: For those of you visiting this site for the first time, you should be aware that most of the comments here are submitted under a pseudonym by Patrick Barlow; the creative genius behind the National Theatre of Brent, and are supposed to be funny. Although, sad to say, Barlow still cant get the number of laughs the journalist here unwittingly provoke.The national theatre of Brent weren't ever funny anywhere - not even in Brent. I think we had to laugh at them back then to show how "anti Thatcher" we were. Unfortunately this encouraged alternative comedians such as Ben Elton - and apparently now Patrick Barlow - to think they were actually funny. My God, how we paid for that mistake.
For the most part, I think his material is too ridiculous for first rate satire.
Discuss?
Saint Stephens, fareham says...
11:21pm Wed 23 Jul 08
If every anti Lowe supporter moved on there wont be any one at home games or away games next season. We only moan because we care we all have an opinion.
Ray, Eastleigh says...
11:31pm Wed 23 Jul 08
mockme wrote:Anyone out there that can translate this gibberish into english.
Viafaraway is rubbish but he is still like well better than that other lot. Never mind you cant win nuffin with kids try you cant win anything with midgets. what is this dutch t0sser doin floggin our first team for a spliff fund or sommit
MikeC, Southampton says...
12:19am Thu 24 Jul 08
Saint Stephens wrote:Ther will plenty of us at the games, home and away. Same as there were when we were shouting for the head of (the now 'sainted') Ted Bates for being a rubbish manager.
If every anti Lowe supporter moved on there wont be any one at home games or away games next season. We only moan because we care we all have an opinion.
Things change. The only thing that shouldn't change is people supporting their team in a comradely - and less insulting - way.
The bottom line is we are, and always have been for the last 50 years, an average team of average players which sometimes punches above its weight.
It may be the the new management team may be able to achieve the same again. It will be more likely to happen if everyone, including the people who post on this message board, were to be positive or to shut up..
Lowe and Behold, St Marys hotseat says...
1:42am Thu 24 Jul 08
Im sure Dave Merrington wont be complaining ve af raa
Graham, Herts says...
6:30am Thu 24 Jul 08
MikeC wrote:A great thought to start the new day with. I've been saying it for ages. All the whiners have a choice. They can support the Team or walk away.
Saint Stephens wrote: If every anti Lowe supporter moved on there wont be any one at home games or away games next season. We only moan because we care we all have an opinion.Ther will plenty of us at the games, home and away. Same as there were when we were shouting for the head of (the now 'sainted') Ted Bates for being a rubbish manager. Things change. The only thing that shouldn't change is people supporting their team in a comradely - and less insulting - way. The bottom line is we are, and always have been for the last 50 years, an average team of average players which sometimes punches above its weight. It may be the the new management team may be able to achieve the same again. It will be more likely to happen if everyone, including the people who post on this message board, were to be positive or to shut up..
I wish they were able to support the Team / Club / Management with real enthusiasm as I think its going to be a rough old season and nerves might well be tested to the very end.
We need to be supporting each other and not always sniping away which I have been guilty of I admit.
My excuse (feeble it might be) is that my belief is that we should look forward and be positive.
Up the Saints!!
Saint Elsewhere, Planet Earth says...
6:59am Thu 24 Jul 08
Egomaniac wrote:You had better check your grammar old chap, or old girl. It is not perfect, although your spelling seems to be ok. Please be careful when you criticise others though.
Glenn: I personally think Redbridge has summed you up exactly. You clearly have no command of the English language, certainly you have a very limited vocabulary, and appear to be able only to support your case with abusive and foul language. I would go further than Redbridge - you border on the retard!
What does "you border on the retard" mean by the way?
Be careful with your mother tongue Egomaniac, for it might lick you to death!
Be careful out there y'all.
Saintelsewhere, Planet Earth says...
7:23am Thu 24 Jul 08
matty wrote:Another teacher on here. There is an old adage which says that if you can, you do, and if you can't, you teach. Any thoughts on that?
The vengefull Cabage wrote:Would that be the same teachers that taught you how to spell?? Blame not blaim, greedy not greadyKate wrote:Would want to keep; Poortvielt, seems to have an idea Lallana, looks neat and tidy on the ball The rest not to fussed about, mostly seem to lack flair and tallent on the ball anyhow. But i blaim the parents and schoolteachers for giving them the wrong philosophy. People teach your children to be gready with the ball to want to run at and beat the defender rather than pass. It\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s the only way they learn!The vengeful cabage wrote:It\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s all very well saying somebody\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\'s useless and you wanna get rid of them but who would you be desperate to keep and why?The vengeful cabage wrote: People i want out of the club: Stern John, sh1te and not commited to us Gregorz Rasiak, expensive beanpole + his name is diffcult to spell John Viafara, Not good enough on the ball Nathan Dyer, overated theiving g1t Bradley Wright-Phillips, theiving git Kelvin Davis, worst keeper in the whole history of any sport ever Michael Svenson, it would be nice but we cant risk paying him to be injured Rudi Skatchel, Cr@p and overpaid Rupert Lowe, Lying, cheating, self Centred, Vindictive, backstabbing beetroot faced kn0b Michael Wilde, Too soft and lets Lowe get away with too much This is not a diffinitive list just a few names off the top of my head, please feel free to add to it.Sorry forgot one... Andrew Surman, criminally overated, lacks pace and quality where it matters. Would be better to get what we can for him. Not a left back, not a left midfielder, not a central midfielder... therfore, useless!
The Vengefull Cabage, This patch aint big enough for the both of us says...
8:52am Thu 24 Jul 08
Thank you to everybody who have turned this post from one about football to a grammer and spelling jubelie. I am everso sorry that i missed this sooner but for all of you here is a topic of conversation that you can discuss;
In my opinon Des O'Conner does not do anywhere near as good a job presenting Countdown as Richard Whitely used to.
Ps. If you want to critisise a post for its content then o.k but keep it your critisism to the footballing issues after all the posts are about football if you want to veer off into spelling,grammer, and punctuation then i would suggest checking out the OED's official site. Honestly its shocking how much free time P.e teachers have these days!
In my opinon Des O'Conner does not do anywhere near as good a job presenting Countdown as Richard Whitely used to.
Ps. If you want to critisise a post for its content then o.k but keep it your critisism to the footballing issues after all the posts are about football if you want to veer off into spelling,grammer, and punctuation then i would suggest checking out the OED's official site. Honestly its shocking how much free time P.e teachers have these days!
Saint Stephen, fareham says...
11:38am Thu 24 Jul 08
Graham wrote:
MikeC wrote:Saint Stephens wrote: If every anti Lowe supporter moved on there wont be any one at home games or away games next season. We only moan because we care we all have an opinion.Ther will plenty of us at the games, home and away. Same as there were when we were shouting for the head of (the now \'sainted\') Ted Bates for being a rubbish manager. Things change. The only thing that shouldn\'t change is people supporting their team in a comradely - and less insulting - way. The bottom line is we are, and always have been for the last 50 years, an average team of average players which sometimes punches above its weight. It may be the the new management team may be able to
Redbridge, says...
6:39am Wed 23 Jul 08