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7:19am Monday 4th August 2008
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WARRING families wreaked havoc when they went on the rampage in a Southampton estate.
The two groups of people burst into the road in the middle of the afternoon, armed with crossbows, baseball bats and planks of wood.
Men and women of all ages, including teens and people in their 60s, were involved in the mass brawl which broke out on Bassett's Flowers Estate on Saturday afternoon.
Residents watched on in horror from inside and outside their homes in Violet Road as the fight, which lasted about half and hour, escalated.
At one point the crossbow was fired and the metal bolt was shot into a car parked in the street.
Others were battered about their heads and bodies with the wood and bats, leaving three people in need of hospital treatment.
Women, thought to include mothers and girlfriends of those fighting, were seen running, shouting and screaming as the violence continued.
Police were called to the fracas shortly after 3pm and it is understood paramedics arrived to take the injured parties to Southampton General Hospital.
One man suffered abdominal injuries after being hit with the plank of wood while a second was treated for a gash to his head.
A third person was also taken to hospital with cuts and bruises.
Detectives are today continuing to investigate the violence which is thought to have involved up to 15 people.
Three men in their early 20s have been arrested and were last night being spoken to by police.
Detective Sergeant Dave Jackson, from Bitterne CID, said: "This was a serious violent disorder that happened in the middle of the street, in full view of the public.
"Violence of any nature within a community is completely unacceptable and will not be tolerated. We know that this incident was witnessed by many people who either live in or where in Violet Road on Saturday afternoon and I would urge them to come forward."
Anyone with information is asked to call 0845 045 4545 or the anonymous Crimestoppers line on 0800 555 111.
Mr Frog, Basset says...
7:33am Mon 4 Aug 08
hmm, says...
7:35am Mon 4 Aug 08
steve, says...
7:35am Mon 4 Aug 08
The Star Chamber, says...
7:37am Mon 4 Aug 08
The big question, says...
7:47am Mon 4 Aug 08
Sceptic, Waterside says...
8:13am Mon 4 Aug 08
Saddened, Southampton says...
8:45am Mon 4 Aug 08
True Blue, Fareham says...
8:47am Mon 4 Aug 08
Fred, says...
8:50am Mon 4 Aug 08
KEEP SOUTHAMPTON CLEAN, looking down my nose says...
9:19am Mon 4 Aug 08
Wills, In The Wilderness says...
9:23am Mon 4 Aug 08
King Arthur, Winchester says...
9:44am Mon 4 Aug 08
Wills wrote:Apparently their trebuchet was out of service due to failing a health and safety inspection.
Who the hell is armed with a cross bow? Weren't those popular in the middle ages or am I missing something here? Either way totally unacceptable behaviour, you can see why the youth of today act the way they do if this is the kind of moronic parenting they have been brought up with.
clampit, thorney hill says...
9:54am Mon 4 Aug 08
Amused, Southampton says...
9:58am Mon 4 Aug 08
Sceptic wrote:Ha ha ha
Maybe the council should add an \'N\' to the street sign.
TS, southampton says...
10:11am Mon 4 Aug 08
John H, Shirley says...
11:06am Mon 4 Aug 08
bassett born and bred, southampton says...
11:09am Mon 4 Aug 08
Me, at my desk says...
11:10am Mon 4 Aug 08
pikey, new forest says...
11:13am Mon 4 Aug 08
George W Bush Jr, The White House says...
11:20am Mon 4 Aug 08
Dave Hunter, New Zealand says...
11:20am Mon 4 Aug 08
King Mush, Woolston says...
11:35am Mon 4 Aug 08
claire, swaythling says...
11:38am Mon 4 Aug 08
In Fear, Southampton says...
11:50am Mon 4 Aug 08
Southampton Pensioner, Outside co-op says...
11:57am Mon 4 Aug 08
Chav free zone, Swaythling says...
12:06pm Mon 4 Aug 08
helsbels, bitternpark /canary's says...
12:10pm Mon 4 Aug 08
Not Rose Tinted Specs, Southampton says...
12:23pm Mon 4 Aug 08
Dave Hunter wrote:..er..you seem to have conveniently glossed over the widely commented on epidemic proportions of violent gang crime in New Zealand!
I used to walk these streets as a kid, and had many friends from the area. After getting married we moved to Merryoak. I used to wander these means streets alone after football matches and long evenings at the pub or club. My point is that "Trouble finds Trouble". Years ago you only had one idiot living in your road, now you possible may have 10 or more. Give these people some descent weapons and let them wipe each other of the face off the earth. We now live in New Zealand, we get to look at green fields, ice bergs and penguins, a long way from the stabbings, beatings and drug dealing of the council estates in southampton.
Same S*** Different Day, Broadlands Rd. says...
12:34pm Mon 4 Aug 08
Finlay, Des Moines, Iowa says...
1:14pm Mon 4 Aug 08
Unhard and unrespected!, Southampton says...
1:25pm Mon 4 Aug 08
Sceptic, Waterside says...
1:33pm Mon 4 Aug 08
King Mush, Woolston says...
1:41pm Mon 4 Aug 08
Finlay wrote:Finlay often comes blasting in on any thread such as this and wishes to compare the glorious USA with the much reported crime and anti-social behaviour. Most of us are concerned about the high degree of lawlessness and failures by those in charge.
...just another day in a lawless city I guess there will be even more to come. Now when my critics start blasting me for my comments from the US they need to read the article first and then decide who is in a better place now. Men, women and children warring on the streets, baseball bats, crossbows blah blah blah - Hmmmm how errr 'nice' A wonderful place to bring your family up I guess
Mr E, Eastleigh says...
1:47pm Mon 4 Aug 08
Ed the Ref, Southampton says...
1:48pm Mon 4 Aug 08
Finlay wrote:Finlay wrote:
...just another day in a lawless city I guess there will be even more to come.
Now when my critics start blasting me for my comments from the US they need to read the article first and then decide who is in a better place now.
Men, women and children warring on the streets, baseball bats, crossbows blah blah blah - Hmmmm how errr \'nice\'
A wonderful place to bring your family up I guess
Simon, says...
1:52pm Mon 4 Aug 08
Southampton Pensioner wrote:Be a dear and put the kettle on.
Make Tea, not war!! It was never like this in my day, they should've been in the blitz then they'd know hardship. Bring back the birch...etc...etc... etc
Finlay, Des Moines, Iowa, says...
2:18pm Mon 4 Aug 08
Sceptic, Waterside...'and lovin' it'! says...
2:22pm Mon 4 Aug 08
Finlay, Des Moines, Iowa wrote:Could someone pop Finlays' stars and stripes rattle back in his pram please?
... Your all vermin and I'm so glad I'm well shot of all the inbred chav scum that are the people of Southampton!
Gordon of The Gardens, Bitterne says...
2:29pm Mon 4 Aug 08
John, says...
2:31pm Mon 4 Aug 08
norman tebbitt, gate inn bar says...
2:33pm Mon 4 Aug 08
King Mush, Woolston says...
2:36pm Mon 4 Aug 08
one who was involved, says...
2:36pm Mon 4 Aug 08
Andy, In My Pants says...
2:38pm Mon 4 Aug 08
King Mush, Woolston says...
2:39pm Mon 4 Aug 08
one what was not involved, says...
2:41pm Mon 4 Aug 08
one who was involved wrote:Is your English and use of grammar always this good?
the fight on saturday was soely started by a family that live on viloet road and i got involved because my girlfriend and my best friends girlfriend were beaten with bats and wood,and a friend who tried to stop it from being beaten was himself beaten to the ground.if it wasnt for him the girls would have been alot worse! so my hat goes off to him,what man hits women with fists let alone with bats and wood they deserved everyting they got.we all know the police are too busy nicking motorists than to deal with scum like that,so to everyone there thanks the drinks are on me!!!!!!!!!!!
Ron and Pam from Badidallyboing, Wideridaho says...
2:47pm Mon 4 Aug 08
King Mush, Woolston says...
2:47pm Mon 4 Aug 08
one what was not involved wrote:Is your Holier Than Thou condescending pedantic irrelevant posturing always this good?
one who was involved wrote: the fight on saturday was soely started by a family that live on viloet road and i got involved because my girlfriend and my best friends girlfriend were beaten with bats and wood,and a friend who tried to stop it from being beaten was himself beaten to the ground.if it wasnt for him the girls would have been alot worse! so my hat goes off to him,what man hits women with fists let alone with bats and wood they deserved everyting they got.we all know the police are too busy nicking motorists than to deal with scum like that,so to everyone there thanks the drinks are on me!!!!!!!!!!!Is your English and use of grammar always this good?
Anon, eastleigh says...
2:54pm Mon 4 Aug 08
Know it all, Southampton says...
2:56pm Mon 4 Aug 08
Doofus, says...
2:56pm Mon 4 Aug 08
King Mush wrote:Fool.
one what was not involved wrote:Is your Holier Than Thou condescending pedantic irrelevant posturing always this good? Seems that the young lady is only offering an insight and should be commended - not condemned.one who was involved wrote: the fight on saturday was soely started by a family that live on viloet road and i got involved because my girlfriend and my best friends girlfriend were beaten with bats and wood,and a friend who tried to stop it from being beaten was himself beaten to the ground.if it wasnt for him the girls would have been alot worse! so my hat goes off to him,what man hits women with fists let alone with bats and wood they deserved everyting they got.we all know the police are too busy nicking motorists than to deal with scum like that,so to everyone there thanks the drinks are on me!!!!!!!!!!!Is your English and use of grammar always this good?
King Mush, Woolston says...
3:04pm Mon 4 Aug 08
anon, says...
3:08pm Mon 4 Aug 08
Know it all wrote:WUM!
Why is it always the chav estates that have these problems? These people that were fighting will probably be evicted, the Council do seem to take this seriously but why always is the fighting on a council estate? I have witnessed the same stupid idiots fighting (council house family) in Kendal Avenue, Millbrook, Derby Road, St Mary's, Hinkler Road, Thornhill, Oak (I believe it was called) Road, Woolston, Sholing, and Warren Avenue, Shirley Warren. I have never seen this in Testwood, Totton, Chilworth, Regent's Park, Upper Shirley, Ocean Village or Lyndhurst. Basically where people own their own homes. Why do the rest of us have to put up with these people. I appreciate they are not as clever or well bred as the rest of us but we are doing our best to help them with our tax paying their housing, food, booze and 4 x 4. Surely we should stop helping these people in this way and help to educate them on how to live properly. There are good arguments for cloning and test tube babies that are genetically enhanced like those that don't live in a council estate. Whilst on the subject, why do houses on Council estates look the same. They all seem to have an outsized dog, a 4x4 vehicle or an old Jaguar on bricks out the front. Their gardens are nearly always overgrown and have bottles and for some reason an over turned childs trike somewhere in the garden, or a mattress. Telephone wires and street lights often have a pair of trainers or a bike tyre thrown over them and everyone seems compelled to wear tracksuits, large hooped earings and pink tops (and thats just the men). They don't speak properly either, they always say, "I don't know nothing" and "Innit." Why? I hope those responsible for fighting are tried, found guilty and thrown into jail!
c, says...
3:08pm Mon 4 Aug 08
Anon wrote:Yeah its not right that innocent people have to put up with this type of thing, but when you live on an estate or anywhere for that matter, people do have disputes, arguments, if the police do nothing then sometimes people have to sort it themselves.
Speaking from experience the police do nothing constructive in these instances even when provided with hard evidence.
It does not surprise me at all that people take action in to their own hands, not that it is right. I still dont understand why as an authority we have to provide housing for these families when they behave so badly. Until you have had one of these families living near you its hard to imagine just how horrible they make life for everyone.
Arthur, Southampton says...
3:17pm Mon 4 Aug 08
anon wrote:Did we miss your appearance on the Jeremy Kyle Show?
Know it all wrote:WUM!
Why is it always the chav estates that have these problems? These people that were fighting will probably be evicted, the Council do seem to take this seriously but why always is the fighting on a council estate? I have witnessed the same stupid idiots fighting (council house family) in Kendal Avenue, Millbrook, Derby Road, St Mary's, Hinkler Road, Thornhill, Oak (I believe it was called) Road, Woolston, Sholing, and Warren Avenue, Shirley Warren. I have never seen this in Testwood, Totton, Chilworth, Regent's Park, Upper Shirley, Ocean Village or Lyndhurst. Basically where people own their own homes. Why do the rest of us have to put up with these people. I appreciate they are not as clever or well bred as the rest of us but we are doing our best to help them with our tax paying their housing, food, booze and 4 x 4. Surely we should stop helping these people in this way and help to educate them on how to live properly. There are good arguments for cloning and test tube babies that are genetically enhanced like those that don't live in a council estate. Whilst on the subject, why do houses on Council estates look the same. They all seem to have an outsized dog, a 4x4 vehicle or an old Jaguar on bricks out the front. Their gardens are nearly always overgrown and have bottles and for some reason an over turned childs trike somewhere in the garden, or a mattress. Telephone wires and street lights often have a pair of trainers or a bike tyre thrown over them and everyone seems compelled to wear tracksuits, large hooped earings and pink tops (and thats just the men). They don't speak properly either, they always say, "I don't know nothing" and "Innit." Why? I hope those responsible for fighting are tried, found guilty and thrown into jail!
Know it all, Southampton says...
3:24pm Mon 4 Aug 08
Giant, says...
3:29pm Mon 4 Aug 08
Southampton pensioner, Watching Countdown says...
3:31pm Mon 4 Aug 08
Know it all wrote:Well said young man/lady.
Why is it always the chav estates that have these problems? These people that were fighting will probably be evicted, the Council do seem to take this seriously but why always is the fighting on a council estate? I have witnessed the same stupid idiots fighting (council house family) in Kendal Avenue, Millbrook, Derby Road, St Mary\'s, Hinkler Road, Thornhill, Oak (I believe it was called) Road, Woolston, Sholing, and Warren Avenue, Shirley Warren. I have never seen this in Testwood, Totton, Chilworth, Regent\'s Park, Upper Shirley, Ocean Village or Lyndhurst. Basically where people own their own homes. Why do the rest of us have to put up with these people. I appreciate they are not as clever or well bred as the rest of us but we are doing our best to help them with our tax paying their housing, food, booze and 4 x 4. Surely we should stop helping these people in this way and help to educate them on how to live properly. There are good arguments for cloning and test tube babies that are genetically enhanced like those that don\'t live in a council estate. Whilst on the subject, why do houses on Council estates look the same. They all seem to have an outsized dog, a 4x4 vehicle or an old Jaguar on bricks out the front. Their gardens are nearly always overgrown and have bottles and for some reason an over turned childs trike somewhere in the garden, or a mattress. Telephone wires and street lights often have a pair of trainers or a bike tyre thrown over them and everyone seems compelled to wear tracksuits, large hooped earings and pink tops (and thats just the men). They don\'t speak properly either, they always say, \"I don\'t know nothing\" and \"Innit.\" Why? I hope those responsible for fighting are tried, found guilty and thrown into jail!
Disbelief, southampton says...
7:28am Mon 4 Aug 08