FootyCred wrote:
I am really upset!! Just taken my dog for a walk, it is a lousy day, but I can't find anything negative to say about this article!! I am sure that the usual doom mongers will have their say? My expectations for tonight are to see a cagey, low risk, typical friendly. As long as we are ready for Saturday, I am happy (whoops, what will the moaners make of that!!). COYR.

C-Boz wrote:
My brother & his fiance is off to watch the game tonight

FootyCred wrote:
I am really upset!! Just taken my dog for a walk, it is a lousy day, but I can't find anything negative to say about this article!! I am sure that the usual doom mongers will have their say? My expectations for tonight are to see a cagey, low risk, typical friendly. As long as we are ready for Saturday, I am happy (whoops, what will the moaners make of that!!). COYR.

The Teacher wrote:

C-Boz wrote: My brother & his fiance is off to watch the game tonight

You are going to have to do better than this when you go to secondary school in September. My brother and his fiance are off to watch the game tonight.

Tylenol wrote:

The Teacher wrote:

C-Boz wrote: My brother & his fiance is off to watch the game tonight

You are going to have to do better than this when you go to secondary school in September. My brother and his fiance are off to watch the game tonight.

Leave him alone, he is just a kid! You bully!

FootyCred wrote:
Whoops!! My previous post did not translate it's intended sarcasm in the way I intended. I am a 100% "Football Person" and visit this site on most days. All I want is a reasonable discussion on football matter, and not the constant moaners, either pro or anti Lowe et al. I will be at St Marys tonight to show my commitment to my team and it's management/staff, I like "A Saints Fan" only want my team to be sucessful and play good football. Foward in hope!

FootyCred wrote:
Whoops!! My previous post did not translate it's intended sarcasm in the way I intended. I am a 100% "Football Person" and visit this site on most days. All I want is a reasonable discussion on football matter, and not the constant moaners, either pro or anti Lowe et al. I will be at St Marys tonight to show my commitment to my team and it's management/staff, I like "A Saints Fan" only want my team to be sucessful and play good football. Foward in hope!

qwerty wrote:

FootyCred wrote: Whoops!! My previous post did not translate it's intended sarcasm in the way I intended. I am a 100% "Football Person" and visit this site on most days. All I want is a reasonable discussion on football matter, and not the constant moaners, either pro or anti Lowe et al. I will be at St Marys tonight to show my commitment to my team and it's management/staff, I like "A Saints Fan" only want my team to be sucessful and play good football. Foward in hope!

not your fault mate, there are a lot of doom merchants on here with no sense of humour at all. Most of whom only want to bait Lowe & co.

saints wrote:
if saints are to go anywere we need support form the fans if there are any true saints fans left. we have a big club and a very small fan base look at pompey the fans are 100% loyal are we NO because saints ground is never full so goes to show we are weak to let the likes of pompey who lets face it had nothing for 5-6 years win the fa cup we as a big club should be there with them fighting to win something so show some support and get behind the TEAM there the ones that do all the real work not mr lowe or any of the back room staff the more support we get the better chances we got to go somewere in life so come on you true saints fans and show the club what we are about and lets show all the other clubs what fans really are

come on and get behind the team wrote:
The next person to post a pro or anti lowe comment is a skate.

*** wrote:
Lowe out and take the Dutch donkey with you.

*** wrote:
Lowe out and take the Dutch donkey with you.

Bill wrote:
What about support to-night? 9000 max if saints are lucky. Not enough, cost to stage game must be more then that. Best get used to it, a poor start and that may become normal next season.

ha ha ha wrote:

*** wrote: Lowe out and take the Dutch donkey with you.

ah gotcha, you're the skate

saints fans united wrote:

Bill wrote: What about support to-night? 9000 max if saints are lucky. Not enough, cost to stage game must be more then that. Best get used to it, a poor start and that may become normal next season.

very true we need full house everyweek 30.000 plus to make some money and maybe at the end of the season have some money to buy. come on you saints fans where are you lets show em we are not weak we can be a big club thats what whats needed big time COME ON YOU SAINTS

A Saints fan wrote:

FootyCred wrote: I am really upset!! Just taken my dog for a walk, it is a lousy day, but I can't find anything negative to say about this article!! I am sure that the usual doom mongers will have their say? My expectations for tonight are to see a cagey, low risk, typical friendly. As long as we are ready for Saturday, I am happy (whoops, what will the moaners make of that!!). COYR.

This posting is meaningless tosh and I think it's author would try to pick a fight in an empty bar. He is just inviting people to have a moan. Well my moan is about people who come on this site to bait and wind up the Lowe loving and the Lowe hating ends of the fan base. I just wish they would all clear off. I don't give a toss about Lowe. Just let him get on with his job running the PLC and telling Wilde what to do. All I care about is the team and how they play and Jan is doing a good job so far but Saturday's game and the next half dozen or so will tell us how well he has done. I wish him well because I want the team to succeed and I want to enjoy my football as a Saints fan. So we don't want your excessive and unearned Lowe praise nor do we want your anti Lowe bile. We want Saints fans who are interested in football and how the team are doing.

Jesus_02 wrote:

FootyCred wrote: Whoops!! My previous post did not translate it's intended sarcasm in the way I intended. I am a 100% "Football Person" and visit this site on most days. All I want is a reasonable discussion on football matter, and not the constant moaners, either pro or anti Lowe et al. I will be at St Marys tonight to show my commitment to my team and it's management/staff, I like "A Saints Fan" only want my team to be sucessful and play good football. Foward in hope!

HappyHappyHappyHappy JoyJoyJoyJoyJoySplen didSplendidSplendidS plendidSplendid. What a wonderful world, the sky is grey, the flower roads are the Garden of Eden, Saints are being run by a profiteering megalomaniac, we only stayed up by the skin of our teeth last year and now we have a weaker team this year. I really cant see what there is to moan (and moan and moan and moan)and not like Lowe about.

Kdog wrote:

saints fans united wrote:

Bill wrote: What about support to-night? 9000 max if saints are lucky. Not enough, cost to stage game must be more then that. Best get used to it, a poor start and that may become normal next season.

very true we need full house everyweek 30.000 plus to make some money and maybe at the end of the season have some money to buy. come on you saints fans where are you lets show em we are not weak we can be a big club thats what whats needed big time COME ON YOU SAINTS

I was a season ticket holder for 25 unbroken years. I cannot continue to support my club whilst Lowe and Wilde is in charge. I blame only Lowe for our demise from the Premiership and our current financial status. Can anyone show me an example where the head of a PLC has failed to bring the desired results, been sacked, only to be allowed back after a couple of years with open arms to "save us", just because the next Chairman failed to turn around the fortunes of company. The rot was started by Lowe. He is a business man that self confessed to know nothing about football. That was apparent in his constant poor decision making, costing us relegation. He was shown a constant determination to have his fingers on every single pulse of the club, making all the decisions, signings etc. But he knows nothing about football. Gray and Wigley anyone? By supporting Saints, you are showing faith and support in the people who are entrusted to run our club. Unfortunately you cannot separate the two, as these people are being paid to make decisions that have and will effect our future. I have no faith or trust in Lowe so cannot morally support my club until he has gone for good. Ask yourself, a season ticket holder for 25 years making this stance!! How many other supporters feel the same way. That is why we will not fill the stadium and will continue to struggle financial with Lowe incharge. All the youngsters we are playing this season will just be groomed for the next sell to a bigger club. During the Branfoot era, the only way we managed to get him out before he destroyed the club was to boycott spending money with the club and attending matches. As much as it hurts me, Im sticking to my decision until Lowe goes. Lowe out, Lowe out.

Kdog wrote:

saints fans united wrote:

Bill wrote: What about support to-night? 9000 max if saints are lucky. Not enough, cost to stage game must be more then that. Best get used to it, a poor start and that may become normal next season.

very true we need full house everyweek 30.000 plus to make some money and maybe at the end of the season have some money to buy. come on you saints fans where are you lets show em we are not weak we can be a big club thats what whats needed big time COME ON YOU SAINTS

I was a season ticket holder for 25 unbroken years. I cannot continue to support my club whilst Lowe and Wilde is in charge. I blame only Lowe for our demise from the Premiership and our current financial status. Can anyone show me an example where the head of a PLC has failed to bring the desired results, been sacked, only to be allowed back after a couple of years with open arms to "save us", just because the next Chairman failed to turn around the fortunes of company. The rot was started by Lowe. He is a business man that self confessed to know nothing about football. That was apparent in his constant poor decision making, costing us relegation. He was shown a constant determination to have his fingers on every single pulse of the club, making all the decisions, signings etc. But he knows nothing about football. Gray and Wigley anyone? By supporting Saints, you are showing faith and support in the people who are entrusted to run our club. Unfortunately you cannot separate the two, as these people are being paid to make decisions that have and will effect our future. I have no faith or trust in Lowe so cannot morally support my club until he has gone for good. Ask yourself, a season ticket holder for 25 years making this stance!! How many other supporters feel the same way. That is why we will not fill the stadium and will continue to struggle financial with Lowe incharge. All the youngsters we are playing this season will just be groomed for the next sell to a bigger club. During the Branfoot era, the only way we managed to get him out before he destroyed the club was to boycott spending money with the club and attending matches. As much as it hurts me, Im sticking to my decision until Lowe goes. Lowe out, Lowe out.

jack wrote:

Kdog wrote:

saints fans united wrote:

Bill wrote: What about support to-night? 9000 max if saints are lucky. Not enough, cost to stage game must be more then that. Best get used to it, a poor start and that may become normal next season.

very true we need full house everyweek 30.000 plus to make some money and maybe at the end of the season have some money to buy. come on you saints fans where are you lets show em we are not weak we can be a big club thats what whats needed big time COME ON YOU SAINTS

I was a season ticket holder for 25 unbroken years. I cannot continue to support my club whilst Lowe and Wilde is in charge. I blame only Lowe for our demise from the Premiership and our current financial status. Can anyone show me an example where the head of a PLC has failed to bring the desired results, been sacked, only to be allowed back after a couple of years with open arms to "save us", just because the next Chairman failed to turn around the fortunes of company. The rot was started by Lowe. He is a business man that self confessed to know nothing about football. That was apparent in his constant poor decision making, costing us relegation. He was shown a constant determination to have his fingers on every single pulse of the club, making all the decisions, signings etc. But he knows nothing about football. Gray and Wigley anyone? By supporting Saints, you are showing faith and support in the people who are entrusted to run our club. Unfortunately you cannot separate the two, as these people are being paid to make decisions that have and will effect our future. I have no faith or trust in Lowe so cannot morally support my club until he has gone for good. Ask yourself, a season ticket holder for 25 years making this stance!! How many other supporters feel the same way. That is why we will not fill the stadium and will continue to struggle financial with Lowe incharge. All the youngsters we are playing this season will just be groomed for the next sell to a bigger club. During the Branfoot era, the only way we managed to get him out before he destroyed the club was to boycott spending money with the club and attending matches. As much as it hurts me, Im sticking to my decision until Lowe goes. Lowe out, Lowe out.

When saints were in the fa cup final did u go and c it?

Dean wrote:

jack wrote:

Kdog wrote:

saints fans united wrote:

Bill wrote: What about support to-night? 9000 max if saints are lucky. Not enough, cost to stage game must be more then that. Best get used to it, a poor start and that may become normal next season.

very true we need full house everyweek 30.000 plus to make some money and maybe at the end of the season have some money to buy. come on you saints fans where are you lets show em we are not weak we can be a big club thats what whats needed big time COME ON YOU SAINTS

I was a season ticket holder for 25 unbroken years. I cannot continue to support my club whilst Lowe and Wilde is in charge. I blame only Lowe for our demise from the Premiership and our current financial status. Can anyone show me an example where the head of a PLC has failed to bring the desired results, been sacked, only to be allowed back after a couple of years with open arms to "save us", just because the next Chairman failed to turn around the fortunes of company. The rot was started by Lowe. He is a business man that self confessed to know nothing about football. That was apparent in his constant poor decision making, costing us relegation. He was shown a constant determination to have his fingers on every single pulse of the club, making all the decisions, signings etc. But he knows nothing about football. Gray and Wigley anyone? By supporting Saints, you are showing faith and support in the people who are entrusted to run our club. Unfortunately you cannot separate the two, as these people are being paid to make decisions that have and will effect our future. I have no faith or trust in Lowe so cannot morally support my club until he has gone for good. Ask yourself, a season ticket holder for 25 years making this stance!! How many other supporters feel the same way. That is why we will not fill the stadium and will continue to struggle financial with Lowe incharge. All the youngsters we are playing this season will just be groomed for the next sell to a bigger club. During the Branfoot era, the only way we managed to get him out before he destroyed the club was to boycott spending money with the club and attending matches. As much as it hurts me, Im sticking to my decision until Lowe goes. Lowe out, Lowe out.

When saints were in the fa cup final did u go and c it?

Whats that got to do with anything?

saint76 wrote:
Eveyday, it seems all I ever read on here is about Lowe. Rarely, though do I see any debate which focuses on the facts and doesn't get emotional. So, lets have a go. Lowe took us out of The Dell and into St Marys. Much as I liked The Dell, it had to happen although, ironically, it has probably cost us a lot of points over the years as teams are less intimidated by the proximity of the crowd. We had some good years in The Premiership and ultimately in the FA Cup under Lowe (agreed, some dodgy ones also). We finally got relegated. Was that Lowe's fault. I don't believe so. We had as good a squad as we had had in ages. We also had two major problems. Firstly, the Svensson injury. Maybe Lowe should have splashed out on a replacement. Seconldy, a manager who continued to play his son when he wasn't fit enough even to train, and who regularly failed to team Crouch with Phillips (who proved last year how good he still is). Basically, it was Redknap who took us down not Lowe. Unfortunately, the crowd was woo'd by false promises from Wild about non-existent money and it is from Wilde's chairmanship that todays mess stems from. Most supporters, like me, would appreciate a large injection of cash from somewhere but it is unreasonable for Lowe just to walk. He is entitled to a return on his investment just like any other other businessman in any other business. I awate the abuse!

saint76 wrote:
Eveyday, it seems all I ever read on here is about Lowe. Rarely, though do I see any debate which focuses on the facts and doesn't get emotional. So, lets have a go. Lowe took us out of The Dell and into St Marys. Much as I liked The Dell, it had to happen although, ironically, it has probably cost us a lot of points over the years as teams are less intimidated by the proximity of the crowd. We had some good years in The Premiership and ultimately in the FA Cup under Lowe (agreed, some dodgy ones also). We finally got relegated. Was that Lowe's fault. I don't believe so. We had as good a squad as we had had in ages. We also had two major problems. Firstly, the Svensson injury. Maybe Lowe should have splashed out on a replacement. Seconldy, a manager who continued to play his son when he wasn't fit enough even to train, and who regularly failed to team Crouch with Phillips (who proved last year how good he still is). Basically, it was Redknap who took us down not Lowe. Unfortunately, the crowd was woo'd by false promises from Wild about non-existent money and it is from Wilde's chairmanship that todays mess stems from. Most supporters, like me, would appreciate a large injection of cash from somewhere but it is unreasonable for Lowe just to walk. He is entitled to a return on his investment just like any other other businessman in any other business. I awate the abuse!

Graham wrote:

saint76 wrote:
Eveyday, it seems all I ever read on here is about Lowe. Rarely, though do I see any debate which focuses on the facts and doesn\'t get emotional. So, lets have a go. Lowe took us out of The Dell and into St Marys. Much as I liked The Dell, it had to happen although, ironically, it has probably cost us a lot of points over the years as teams are less intimidated by the proximity of the crowd. We had some good years in The Premiership and ultimately in the FA Cup under Lowe (agreed, some dodgy ones also). We finally got relegated. Was that Lowe\'s fault. I don\'t believe so. We had as good a squad as we had had in ages. We also had two major problems. Firstly, the Svensson injury. Maybe Lowe should have splashed out on a replacement. Seconldy, a manager who continued to play his son when he wasn\'t fit enough even to train, and who regularly failed to team Crouch with Phillips (who proved last year how good he still is). Basically, it was Redknap who took us down not Lowe. Unfortunately, the crowd was woo\'d by false promises from Wild about non-existent money and it is from Wilde\'s chairmanship that todays mess stems from. Most supporters, like me, would appreciate a large injection of cash from somewhere but it is unreasonable for Lowe just to walk. He is entitled to a return on his investment just like any other other businessman in any other business. I awate the abuse!

No abuse my friend, for what appears to be a lucud critique of events.

I always say that I have 500 shares because it puts me in perspective to Lowe who I read somewher has 1.5m (I have no idea if that is accurate).

Unfortunately, shareholders are not entitled to a return on their investment - it\'s an absolute gamble.

Why it\'s important to mention themm is that Lowe\'s (and my) best chance of a return on his investment is to get the Saints back into the Premiership as soon as possible.

I also agree with you about the time when Wild was in charge and I think that Lowe has made some good steps in the salvation of the Saints.

I also believe that, BROADLY SPEAKING, the Boardroom issues are peripheral to the Saints position today. When you look back at Managers since WGS left I think that they have ALL been fairly poor to disastorous for the Club.

Add the attitude, heart and spiririt of the players and you have a recipe for disaster. And sure enough the Club has been in meltdown for the last 3/4 years.

Looking forward, never backwards, we do now appear to have something rumbling down at St. Mary\'s that looks as if we are at the beginning of an upturn.

Nothing to do with Lowe, good or bad, but just a part of the cycle of football maybe.

Alternatively has got to grips with the Club and maybe, just maybe, has picked on a reasonable Manager and a few good young players coming into their time.

I don\'t know.

I do know that the Club will die unless it gets more support and I repeat earlier posts that it an absolute tragedy that people would rather stay away than give any appearance of support to Lowe.

I now live 15 miles from Luton and I observe my local footie friends watching their Club dying.

Death is not optional - it comes to us all and every fan who stays away - HOWEVER RI