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Axe to fall on jobs at Ford's Transit plant

4:11pm Friday 22nd August 2008

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OVER 100 jobs are to go at the Ford plant in Southampton, the Daily Echo can reveal.

About 125 workers on short-term contracts are to be be laid off.

The cut backs will be made on October 3 and affect all departments of the Southampton factory.

One worker, who wished to remain anonymous, said he had worked at the plant since February but now faced the axe.

He said: "It's very depressing. My wife's in tears because we've got to pay the mortgage. We're not going to have jobs in six weeks' time, but what chance have we got of getting work at this time of year.

"When we first started we were told we would be given new contracts when ours ran out. All the guys I've spoken to were given empty promises.

"We got the news when we started at one this afternoon. The managers haven't even spoken to us yet - this came from the unions - they're saying it's to do with the economy."

He went on to say the workers were angry they had got this news after a three week shut down and believed the company was in a position to tell them before the break.

This move has reignited fears that the work from the Southampton plant may be shipped out to the Kocaeli plant in Turkey.

It comes after the Echo exclusively published a leaked company memo in July which showed the future of the Southampton plant was under review.

It stated the company had: "highlighted a number of economic and operating factors which make it very difficult to achieve a level of investment in Southampton that would enable us to continue at current volume levels" and was looking at "possible alternative scenarios."

Later company documents published by the Echo revealed that the bosses considered the Southampton plant was at a "critical point in its history" and that it was running at a deficit of more than £6m against budget.

Plant manager Martin Chapman is quoted in the minutes telling fellow managers that they must do all they can to reduce cost if the Southampton plant is to get the new transit contract in 2010.

Another meeting is to be held in mid September.


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Bert, southampton says...
11:11am Fri 22 Aug 08

These guys were on short term contacts.
What did they expect?
Production always falls off towards the end of a model run.
The tight economic situation is giving an added incentive for businesses to delay renewing their fleets until the new model in 2010.
(If Ford is still in business then that is)


keith, KINGS SOMBORNE says...
11:33am Fri 22 Aug 08

He said: "It's very depressing. My wife's in tears because we've got to pay the mortgage. We're not going to have jobs in six weeks' time, but what chance have we got of getting work at this time of year.

Dont want to be harsh here, but, you will be suprised how much work is out there if you look.

Dr Alimantado, says...
11:38am Fri 22 Aug 08

keith wrote:
He said: "It's very depressing. My wife's in tears because we've got to pay the mortgage. We're not going to have jobs in six weeks' time, but what chance have we got of getting work at this time of year. Dont want to be harsh here, but, you will be suprised how much work is out there if you look.
exactly, rather than risk losing his home there is always temp work to keep some money coming in whilst he looks for another full time job. Might not be as much money etc but better than going into arrears on the mortgage and get reposessed

AL, Southampton (Home of the Transit - apparantly) says...
12:52pm Fri 22 Aug 08

“Jobs are to be slashed at Ford’s giant Southampton plant”……… great headline, and will definitely grab the readers attention – but once you start reading you realise the reference is to contractors hired by Ford, and NOT Ford employees! At the end of the day, a contract is a contract. It’s for a set period of time, at the end of which it may or may not be renewed. The contracts referred to were “short-term contracts”, so doesn’t that in itself indicate that these contracts would be up for review around about now anyway?

I have every empathy with the contractors affected, but let’s not forget the Ford employees who may lose their jobs, many of whom have worked for the company for twenty or thirty years or more. It’s one thing to worry about paying your mortgage when you’re only contracted or employed for a fixed term, but think about those who have been permanent Ford employees for decades; those who had no reason to doubt their futures would be secure and that their careers would see them through to their retirement.

Dr No-vocal Chords, says...
1:10pm Fri 22 Aug 08

Dr Alimantado wrote:
keith wrote:
He said: "It's very depressing. My wife's in tears because we've got to pay the mortgage. We're not going to have jobs in six weeks' time, but what chance have we got of getting work at this time of year. Dont want to be harsh here, but, you will be suprised how much work is out there if you look.
exactly, rather than risk losing his home there is always temp work to keep some money coming in whilst he looks for another full time job. Might not be as much money etc but better than going into arrears on the mortgage and get reposessed
Indeed, temp work often pays better than a permanent position.

Things aren't as bleak as they're being made out to be. Remember that a lot of our unemployed basically choose to be so. I'm guessing the average Ford worker doesn't come under that category

goard, Fords says...
3:24pm Fri 22 Aug 08

Every worker is trying to work out how to keep their families in food and the bare necessities of life - it does not matter whether you have been permanent or temporary, its a matter of FEEDING YOUR FAMILY - its a matter of survival and will get even more difficult as time goes on. Unhappily, we have a 'rich society' who are playing a game of exploit the workers and to hell with 'their rights', we must ensure our investors (and believe me they are not Joe down the road, but big big people, and no way will they even consider the rights of the common man.

goard

hulla, baloo says...
3:35pm Fri 22 Aug 08

Bearing in mind how many stupid comments we've had on this story today, I'd like to say well done to the Echo mods for keeping on top of the nonsense posted by certain people.

Adrian Smith, says...
3:39pm Fri 22 Aug 08

hulla wrote:
Bearing in mind how many stupid comments we've had on this story today, I'd like to say well done to the Echo mods for keeping on top of the nonsense posted by certain people.
Yeah. I've seen a few but they're gone pretty quickly, so although I moan about the Echo they're doing well on this one.

Ken, Stubbington says...
3:41pm Fri 22 Aug 08

I've been on here all day and I haven't seen any stupid posts on here at all.

Bambi, says...
3:45pm Fri 22 Aug 08

Ken wrote:
I've been on here all day and I haven't seen any stupid posts on here at all.
Shows how good the mods are, then, doesn't it? You missed the ongoing saga of "kebab man", despite his prolific outpourings

Observer, says...
3:48pm Fri 22 Aug 08

One can only deduce that Ken from Stubbington is responsible for the never-ending stream of "kebab man" posts. Grow up, Ken, for goodness sake!

Ken, says...
3:49pm Fri 22 Aug 08

Observer wrote:
One can only deduce that Ken from Stubbington is responsible for the never-ending stream of "kebab man" posts. Grow up, Ken, for goodness sake!
Ha ha. I can see where you're coming from!

Honestly, it's not me!

Observer, says...
3:53pm Fri 22 Aug 08

Today may finally be the day that this site becomes "registered users only". Nice work, Ken, you've ruined a perfectly good blog for everybody

Fat Lazy Ford Worker, Southampton says...
4:42pm Fri 22 Aug 08

Oh dear no more overtime what will I do!

Rude Van, Misslebrook says...
4:50pm Fri 22 Aug 08

How did mateys get a mortgage with a temporary job? Also give it six months and 100 permanent workers will be off with back trouble then they can cover. If that fails theres always work at one of the following places - Kiplings, Pirellis, Plesseys, BAT factory, PBH (Pilkingtons), Vimto, Bacardi, swan pub on Millbrook roundabout or if that all fails try and get a job behind the bar at Ikon Diva. Peace

Denzil, hampshire says...
5:06pm Fri 22 Aug 08

Transit dont make a good van anymore. There are lots of better vans out there now and for the same money. They rust badly after 5 years

Henry, Ford says...
5:46pm Fri 22 Aug 08

In 1969 I was refused a job at Fords due to union closed shop. As far as I am concerned they can can close the whole place down and good riddance to a them.


Robert, Highfield says...
5:57pm Fri 22 Aug 08

keith wrote:
He said: "It's very depressing. My wife's in tears because we've got to pay the mortgage. We're not going to have jobs in six weeks' time, but what chance have we got of getting work at this time of year. Dont want to be harsh here, but, you will be suprised how much work is out there if you look.
If you have the right skills you'll get a job - if you don't you will struggle. Anecdotally
I'm seeing people with degrees finding it hard find work.

There is very little unskilled work about in this area.

If you have a job already, you'd be insulated to the real world of high unemployment.

Bambi, says...
5:59pm Fri 22 Aug 08

Robert wrote:
keith wrote:
He said: "It's very depressing. My wife's in tears because we've got to pay the mortgage. We're not going to have jobs in six weeks' time, but what chance have we got of getting work at this time of year. Dont want to be harsh here, but, you will be suprised how much work is out there if you look.
If you have the right skills you'll get a job - if you don't you will struggle. Anecdotally
I'm seeing people with degrees finding it hard find work.

There is very little unskilled work about in this area.

If you have a job already, you'd be insulated to the real world of high unemployment.
That'll be because a degree isn't a skill in and of itself

Adrian Smith, says...
7:00pm Fri 22 Aug 08

Adrian Smith wrote:
hulla wrote: Bearing in mind how many stupid comments we've had on this story today, I'd like to say well done to the Echo mods for keeping on top of the nonsense posted by certain people.
Yeah. I've seen a few but they're gone pretty quickly, so although I moan about the Echo they're doing well on this one.
You are doing well - I almost feel I know you.

You do realise that our father worked at Ford for what was it 35 years. Why we are here, you and I, in Southampton.

Metal Mickey, Scrapyard says...
7:38pm Fri 22 Aug 08

Any of them Robots included in the lay off chuck out plan?

vanessa, eastleigh says...
8:25pm Fri 22 Aug 08

Stop be selfish,be happy for the senior management team that will still get a big bonus at xmas!!

eddie, hants says...
9:09pm Fri 22 Aug 08

well , well, well.
the contractors will be the ones getting laid off ,theres no suprise there.
So now the lazy ford workers will have to do all their own dirty work & get their hands dirty now, because we all know that the ford motor company mainly take on the contractors to do the dirty work that the long term ford workers didnt like doing especially if it involved getting dirty or breaking into a sweat.

FORDS-TRANSIT VAN ADVERT SAYS, FORDS GETTING YOU THERE !
well they are certainly getting the contractors on the unemployment line.

bassett moronic back stabber, gate inn knob bar says...
9:59pm Fri 22 Aug 08

fords will grind to a halt without the contractors.

Fordoorcar, Not Here says...
11:31pm Fri 22 Aug 08

Nail, coffin. Nail, coffin. Nail, coffin. Nail, coffin. Repetitive innit?

Big Boy, Hythe says...
5:04am Sat 23 Aug 08

First the short term contracts, then other contractors, then the permanents. Standard procedure.

Van Man, southampton says...
7:52am Sat 23 Aug 08

90% of Transits are still on the road - the other 10% made it home.

mr ford, hampshire says...
8:07am Sat 23 Aug 08

iv been working for ford just under a year and im set to go in oct ford dont have a clue how to run a buisness since they try to buy off the compotion and failed ie land rover and jag they not long had to sell and i know for a fact that turkey are getting the new model in 2010 the southampton plant are set to only make the cab version if their lucky more are expeted to follow since not all area's will be funtioning since the cam doesnt need much resource's

mr ford, hampshire says...
8:16am Sat 23 Aug 08

AL wrote:
“Jobs are to be slashed at Ford’s giant Southampton plant”……… great headline, and will definitely grab the readers attention – but once you start reading you realise the reference is to contractors hired by Ford, and NOT Ford employees! At the end of the day, a contract is a contract. It’s for a set period of time, at the end of which it may or may not be renewed. The contracts referred to were “short-term contracts”, so doesn’t that in itself indicate that these contracts would be up for review around about now anyway? I have every empathy with the contractors affected, but let’s not forget the Ford employees who may lose their jobs, many of whom have worked for the company for twenty or thirty years or more. It’s one thing to worry about paying your mortgage when you’re only contracted or employed for a fixed term, but think about those who have been permanent Ford employees for decades; those who had no reason to doubt their futures would be secure and that their careers would see them through to their retirement.
ummmm i thought contractors were hamptons and penski temp works work for ford its the procedure everyone take befor getting took on we all in the same boat so get fact right most of the ford workers that will be left are all in the age of 50-60 so wots the point in getting rid of young blood ford is done for

mr ford, hampshire says...
9:06am Sat 23 Aug 08

Ford will start bringing the Transit Connect to the US in mid-2009 from the assembly plant in Turkey to make way for Turkey to get the new model why didnt they just give the connect model to the southampton plant instead might have saved jobs looks like turkey will be the ne home of the transit i blame the goverment for not steping in since Turkey are not part of the EU thats why they are cheaper to build there

On the Dole, Dole Office says...
9:53am Sat 23 Aug 08

Rude Van wrote:
How did mateys get a mortgage with a temporary job? Also give it six months and 100 permanent workers will be off with back trouble then they can cover. If that fails theres always work at one of the following places - Kiplings, Pirellis, Plesseys, BAT factory, PBH (Pilkingtons), Vimto, Bacardi, swan pub on Millbrook roundabout or if that all fails try and get a job behind the bar at Ikon Diva. Peace
Rude,
Your post just goes to show how many places have closed down rexcently.
Presumably that is the point you are making.
If so add Eastleigh Rail Works/AC Delco/Husband & Vosper shipyards/A&P Dry Dock etc

Hans, Hampshire says...
10:38am Sat 23 Aug 08

Ford make a rubbish van. There are other makes of van out there which are far better. I recently drove a new transit and it was rubbish. The French and German makes of van are far better made.

clair, Job losses says...
11:07am Sat 23 Aug 08

On reading some of the above non-sensical comments I can only surmise they are on social security, disablement, problems physcological problems and have no reality of modern times - they are in la la land and their comments will be treated by the majority who only feel sorry for your lack of understanding of this world. Have it in mind we are not only trying to 'keep you' but trying to keep our country going despite, sadly, the 'not with it society'.

clair

Reality, Bites says...
12:44pm Sat 23 Aug 08

eddie wrote:
well , well, well.
the contractors will be the ones getting laid off ,theres no suprise there.
So now the lazy ford workers will have to do all their own dirty work & get their hands dirty now, because we all know that the ford motor company mainly take on the contractors to do the dirty work that the long term ford workers didnt like doing especially if it involved getting dirty or breaking into a sweat.

FORDS-TRANSIT VAN ADVERT SAYS, FORDS GETTING YOU THERE !
well they are certainly getting the contractors on the unemployment line.
Maybe you would like to ask the contractors who managed to get Ford contracts and work on the production line how easy and sweat free it really is. I am confident they will tell you they had no idea what its really like till they had to do it and it came as a shock to them after just watching from afar. Relentless, at times inhumane (you cant even use the toilet when you need to) and every job causes at least one kind of RSI requiring surgery at some point. Some of the old timers there make things look easy but do anything 200,000 times and you become efficient at it, whereas you Eddie, would be a sweaty, panicked, aching and soaked in your own urine.

Big Vern, says...
6:59pm Sat 23 Aug 08

Fordoorcar wrote:
Nail, coffin. Nail, coffin. Nail, coffin. Nail, coffin. Repetitive innit?
Which is deliciously ironic, given that Henry Ford made popular that most repetitive of phenomena, the production line

Big Vern, says...
7:08pm Sat 23 Aug 08

mr ford wrote:
iv been working for ford just under a year and im set to go in oct ford dont have a clue how to run a buisness since they try to buy off the compotion and failed ie land rover and jag they not long had to sell and i know for a fact that turkey are getting the new model in 2010 the southampton plant are set to only make the cab version if their lucky more are expeted to follow since not all area's will be funtioning since the cam doesnt need much resource's
Fourth-largest motor manufacturer in the world, pioneered mass manufacturing, 7th on the Fortune 500, one of the most recognised brands in the world. Say what you like about Ford, but you can't say they don't know how to run a business!

AL, Southampton (Home of the Transit - apparantly) says...
12:18am Mon 25 Aug 08

mr ford wrote:
AL wrote: “Jobs are to be slashed at Ford’s giant Southampton plant”……… great headline, and will definitely grab the readers attention – but once you start reading you realise the reference is to contractors hired by Ford, and NOT Ford employees! At the end of the day, a contract is a contract. It’s for a set period of time, at the end of which it may or may not be renewed. The contracts referred to were “short-term contracts”, so doesn’t that in itself indicate that these contracts would be up for review around about now anyway? I have every empathy with the contractors affected, but let’s not forget the Ford employees who may lose their jobs, many of whom have worked for the company for twenty or thirty years or more. It’s one thing to worry about paying your mortgage when you’re only contracted or employed for a fixed term, but think about those who have been permanent Ford employees for decades; those who had no reason to doubt their futures would be secure and that their careers would see them through to their retirement.
ummmm i thought contractors were hamptons and penski temp works work for ford its the procedure everyone take befor getting took on we all in the same boat so get fact right most of the ford workers that will be left are all in the age of 50-60 so wots the point in getting rid of young blood ford is done for
Was that supposed to make any sense? In any case, what the hell do you know, and how do you know it? Do you work there? I very much doubt it. And wat 'facts' am I getting wrong? FYI a55hole - I know someone who works there, someone who's worked there 20 years or so, and isn't anywhere near retirement age yet. So jog on!

Peter, Chandlers Ford says...
10:50am Tue 26 Aug 08

If some of the comments posted by Ford staff are anything to go by it's hardly surprising that they are getting rid, or we would soon be driving a frod transti. especially you mr ford !!!

bobby boy, fareham says...
11:13am Thu 11 Sep 08


Ford Europe has long been supporting the loses of Ford America but terrible business decisions affecting the group now ultimately mean cost savings. The response, shutting the only Ford Assembly plant in the UK which also has been adding profit to the group with the most successful van in Europe - end of! Moving all tooling and opening a new plant in Romania will obviously reduce costs and just make more margin.

The plant has been starved of investment for years albeit £26m on the paint shop several years ago, reducing engineering staff, changing staff working conditions, more managers than the Saints, slashing model launch investment capital and crippling suppliers with unreasonable demands the writing has been on the wall for years...

Another UK assembly plant in foreign hands...what have we got left...

The solution buy the GM/Renault van as its built in Luton!

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