Pity your so called latest travel news does not impart the same information

Moss wrote:
Pity your so called latest travel news does not impart the same information

So they give you the latest information ad you moan because they haven't given it to you somewhere else?

How petty can you be?

I can't believe you people are arguing over such silly reasons. Some people have been hurt, someone's mum, dad, brother, sister, boyfriend or babysitter even is going to get a knock at the door with some bad news, that's what matters.

Moss wrote:
Pity your so called latest travel news does not impart the same information

Er, yes it does - but don't let facts get in the way of your anti-Echo ranting.

It certainly sounds like a particularly nasty one, this incident.

Adrian Smith wrote:
It certainly sounds like a particularly nasty one, this incident.

I posted this just before the update which confirmed it.

Commiserations to all affected.

My thoughts go out to the families who are affected. such a tragic accident.

So very sorry to hear that two lives have been taken in this terrible accident. May you both ride free forever xx Not saying who is to blame for this accident but, Please when your out in your four wheeled vehicles look out for vaunrable road users ,motorbikes, scooters pushbikes .

This is a very sad time for us all to hear this news. With it being so close to home. We wil be thinking of the the familys and friends who have just lost their loved one's.....RIP...

PLEASE EVERY ONE JUST TAKE MORE TIME TO LOOK AROUND TO SEE WHAT IS COMING..SAFE DRIVING...

Thank you for your condolances and kind words, the two killed on the motor cycle were very nice kind people and a joy to know.

The shock has devastated the whole family and has come on top of other recent tragic events.

We hope the lady driver of the car involved recovers completely and our thoughts go out to her family and friends.

May we reiterate the advises given by some readers to be more than careful on the roads.

God bless you all. H and GA

To the family, i am so so so sorry i have just found out who it was and know them as they live 5 doors away from me.....

We will miss your smile and the joy you gave us all.

big hugs and kisses

RIP

xxxxxxxxxxx

HI i'm one on channons great friends i have known her since she was little i am really sorry to her brother adam and her mum nicole i am going lite a candle for her and terri at 8:30 tonight along with her other friends we will all miss u very much
RIP
i miss u
atlanta

im devastated to hear what has happened words can not express whats happpened x

so sorry to hear the news, our thoughts are with you. RIP. i will be lighting a candle .

Lin, Ray and family

Going to miss you both ever so much!
Both of you mean so much to me.
R.I.P Terry & Channon. x

I think of u 2 in silence
i often speak ur name
all i have is memories and pictures in my brain
ur memory is my keepsake
wich i'll never apart
our god has u in his keeping
i have you in my heart
RIP
Atlanta
****

Atlanta wrote:
I think of u 2 in silence i often speak ur name all i have is memories and pictures in my brain ur memory is my keepsake wich i'll never apart our god has u in his keeping i have you in my heart RIP Atlanta ****

That has to be the nice's thing i have read in a long time.
xxx

R.I.P Channon We Had Lots Of Memories! Don't No What To Say Really !? You Only Lived A Few Doors Down , You Where One OF My First Best Friends!-You Will Be Missed By Family And Friends x R.I.P CHANNON & TERRY X Bethan x

Why do people who critasize the Echo with petty comments all the time. even bother to go on this forum and read itThey act like complete cretins.

my deepest condolences to the family and friends.
R.I.P.

My thoughts are with the family at this terrible time.
xx

Life is so short and so unfair..
My thoughts are with all the families and friends involved..
R.I.P
God be with you all

Ronan, Phoebe and me will miss you always and know that heaven must have needed another angel ,God bless you both .Our sincerest condolences to nicole and adam We will say a prayer for you all .
Love and best wishes
adele ronan and phoebe

bored

learn to ride the bikes properly

no over taking on blind bends, no riding on wrong side of the road, no undertaking no weaving in and out of traffic
no speeding

the list is endless
why do these riders do it to them self??

Gorf.... what goes around...comes around

let these people rest in peace

That prat Gorf made me forget some basic humanity:
Sincere condolances to all concerned, our thoughts are with you.

GET OFF HERE GORF.
You have no respect, two people have died in tragic circunstances and a third is in hospital. Have some consideration for the feelings of the bereaved.
Motorcyclists, car drivers, pushbike riders all have accidents and all should take more care and look out for each other. The report does not contain any details of exactly what happened so don't start pointing the finger of blame just beacuse you do not like motorcyclists.

My thoughts & prayers are with the families of those involved

gorf wrote:
bored learn to ride the bikes properly no over taking on blind bends, no riding on wrong side of the road, no undertaking no weaving in and out of traffic no speeding the list is endless why do these riders do it to them self??

Not all accidents involving motorcycles are the fault of the motorcyclist.... PRAT..

In most cases it's car drivers not looking...

I've riden motorbikes for over 30 yrs,, in that time i've had 3 accidents none serious otherwise I'd not be here now... But NONE of that accidents were ever MY FAULT..
The blame was sqaurely put down to the car driver in all 3 cases....

Trouble is car drivers fail to look properly....

why is it the first thing people think about is whos fault it was it angers me that they dont think about the families that have lost loved ones my thoughts are with those families R.I.P. TERRY AND CHANNON XXX

Good call Kez.
RIP, may their God be with them, X.

may i say my heart goes out to the families of the 2 who have lost their lives, and GORF who the hell do you think u are u muppet.

r.i.p terry and channon

god bless
bully

Sorry To Hear The Bad News Cant Beleve Its You Channon. Didnt See You In Ages Then Herd The Bad New Devostated :( Always Thinkin Of you And Your Family R.i.P Hunni You Didnt Deserve It Every Ones Going To Miss Youu x

It!s Sharnie not Channon...I!ts just as terrible

I didnt know them personally, but quite a few of my friends did. I would like to send deepest condolences to the family and friends. R.I.P xx

Bus Driver wrote:

gorf wrote:
bored learn to ride the bikes properly no over taking on blind bends, no riding on wrong side of the road, no undertaking no weaving in and out of traffic no speeding the list is endless why do these riders do it to them self??

Not all accidents involving motorcycles are the fault of the motorcyclist.... PRAT..

In most cases it's car drivers not looking...

I've riden motorbikes for over 30 yrs,, in that time i've had 3 accidents none serious otherwise I'd not be here now... But NONE of that accidents were ever MY FAULT..
The blame was sqaurely put down to the car driver in all 3 cases....

Trouble is car drivers fail to look properly....

I was told recently by my mum that the accident was caused by the biker over taking a tanker that had slowed to let the car out, It didnt see the car and plowed into the side of it, Considering she was walking across the forest at the time it was a nightmare for her and she was shoke up about it.... My heart goes out to the families and please if your 2 OR 4 wheels take care of each other and TBH Bus driver i've seen too many bikers use that white line down there as there personal overtaking lane even when its 2 way trafic...

gorf wrote:
bored learn to ride the bikes properly no over taking on blind bends, no riding on wrong side of the road, no undertaking no weaving in and out of traffic no speeding the list is endless why do these riders do it to them self??

I feel sorry for you. When the facts become public in the coming weeks and months, you are going to feel pretty small pal.....

Sorry Dan Leonard, but your Mums storu just doesn't hang true. What tanker would stop on a roundabout to let someone get on to the roundabout (assuming that it actually happened on the roundabout). They is an unofficial lay by about 100m down from the roundabout, was she pulling out across the traffic from that? Why did the tanker stop? Car should wait until there is a gap in the traffic or go down to the next roundabout a mile away!

Poor old car drivers getting pee'd off about getting overtaken by bikers. They use less fuel, are more fun & you don't get held up in traffic. All big plusses in my book.

By the way this is not a book of condolences, please do not inflict your mawkish behaviour upon us. Grieve in private!

Big Boy wrote:
Sorry Dan Leonard, but your Mums storu just doesn't hang true. What tanker would stop on a roundabout to let someone get on to the roundabout (assuming that it actually happened on the roundabout). They is an unofficial lay by about 100m down from the roundabout, was she pulling out across the traffic from that? Why did the tanker stop? Car should wait until there is a gap in the traffic or go down to the next roundabout a mile away!

Poor old car drivers getting pee'd off about getting overtaken by bikers. They use less fuel, are more fun & you don't get held up in traffic. All big plusses in my book.

By the way this is not a book of condolences, please do not inflict your mawkish behaviour upon us. Grieve in private!

it did not happen on the roundabout!!That bit the echo put about it being on the roundabout is very misleading, it happened about half way between the two roundabouts. i drove down the road last night and saw the spot where it happened (the road was covered in white stuff - not sure what that was?) it was roughly alongside where the playing field is off netley view estate.

Thank you Driver. I presume then that she was pulling out across the traffic & the tanker driver stopped. Poor decision on the tanker drivers behalf. The lady really should have gone down to the next roundabout. The biker would have also been better served not to have been going quite so fast. Plenty of blame for everyone involved.

so big boy, you should be the coroner

Cornoners do a good job, I'm just a blow hard.

No one should speculate as to what happened in this accident, but it has to be said a great many bikers do ride in a manner that is dangerous to themselves and other road users especially on the A32 through the Meon Valley.and speeding through built up areas.

gorf wrote:
bored learn to ride the bikes properly no over taking on blind bends, no riding on wrong side of the road, no undertaking no weaving in and out of traffic no speeding the list is endless why do these riders do it to them self??

What a petty minded moron you are, maybe you should get your facts straight first and ask why the stupid car driver was doing a u turn on a busy road like that when theres a round about just up the road. People like you should be shot.

Dan Leonard wrote:

Bus Driver wrote:

gorf wrote: bored learn to ride the bikes properly no over taking on blind bends, no riding on wrong side of the road, no undertaking no weaving in and out of traffic no speeding the list is endless why do these riders do it to them self??

Not all accidents involving motorcycles are the fault of the motorcyclist.... PRAT.. In most cases it\'s car drivers not looking... I\'ve riden motorbikes for over 30 yrs,, in that time i\'ve had 3 accidents none serious otherwise I\'d not be here now... But NONE of that accidents were ever MY FAULT.. The blame was sqaurely put down to the car driver in all 3 cases.... Trouble is car drivers fail to look properly....

I was told recently by my mum that the accident was caused by the biker over taking a tanker that had slowed to let the car out, It didnt see the car and plowed into the side of it, Considering she was walking across the forest at the time it was a nightmare for her and she was shoke up about it.... My heart goes out to the families and please if your 2 OR 4 wheels take care of each other and TBH Bus driver i\'ve seen too many bikers use that white line down there as there personal overtaking lane even when its 2 way trafic...

Had the driver not been trying to do a u turn and just used the round about this would never have happened. Before Terry hit the car she almost taken out another motorist it was driving. Its tragic and just a total waste of two young lives

A very sad story. We saw all the flashing lights down towards Hardley when we crossed the A326 on our bikes and we could see immediately it was serious. I was cycling down Butts Ash Lane around 11.30, and a lot of traffic was diverting onto Roman Road at the Beaulieu road roundabout trying to get over to Fawley Road rather than going across the Forest to Hill Top then heading back to Holbury. Unfortunately a very large propane tanker had tried this and couldn't get round the corner, he couldn't reverse because of half a mile of traffic behind him and he couldn't turn round. Anyone get stuck in this and know how this was resolved?

Big Boy wrote:
Sorry Dan Leonard, but your Mums storu just doesn\'t hang true. What tanker would stop on a roundabout to let someone get on to the roundabout (assuming that it actually happened on the roundabout). They is an unofficial lay by about 100m down from the roundabout, was she pulling out across the traffic from that? Why did the tanker stop? Car should wait until there is a gap in the traffic or go down to the next roundabout a mile away! Poor old car drivers getting pee\'d off about getting overtaken by bikers. They use less fuel, are more fun & you don\'t get held up in traffic. All big plusses in my book. By the way this is not a book of condolences, please do not inflict your mawkish behaviour upon us. Grieve in private!

who the hell do u think u are telling people to grieve in private, if the family who have lost thier loved ones want to read these condolences, this might help them through this tough time and reassure them that they are not alone and people around them are thinking of them in this time of need!!!!!!

I hope people who have left heartless messages dont loose loved ones in a tragic accident like this because u will soon regret commenting on this familys loss.

i am driver and have never ridden a motorbike in my life, however as a driver if i see a motorbike in my rear view mirror or coming towards me on the opposite side of the road i will make sure i move over to give them plenty of room!!! This is part of having respect of other road users wether it be a motorbike, cyclist, bus, tanker etc... its not hard as a car driver just to move across the road slightly to allow a little more room for motorcyclist. Everyone has accidents, they wouldnt be called accidents otherwise!

Also to all those people who are trying to pin point as to who is to blame, get over it, what is done is done, we cant change the past only learn from our mistakes, i understand people have lost loved ones however im sure they are trying to grieve at this moment and the last thing that is on their mind is to pin point who is to blame. All ROAD USERS INSTEAD OF THINKING ABOUT WHO IS TO BLAME THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU CAN DO NOW TO STOP THIS FROM HAPPENING AGAIN!!!

My Condonlences go out to the family who have lost their loved ones. Although they are not here in person they will always be with u in spirit RIP X

my thoughts go to the family and friends. I can not think how they must be feeling. My heart goes out to u. R.I.P x x x x

gorf wrote:
bored learn to ride the bikes properly no over taking on blind bends, no riding on wrong side of the road, no undertaking no weaving in and out of traffic no speeding the list is endless why do these riders do it to them self??

I can not belive you can be so shallow, this was not the bike not to blame.

This was also a dad with his daugter on the back, do you really think that he would have put her life in danger......I DON'T THINK SO...


people like you make me sick....

god bless to the family we are all thinking of you.
lol debbie elliott

I do know what you mean Gorf I have experienced some bad motocycling but I have also experienced some bad drivers, we cannot speculate at the moment!! Sometimes we are all to blame..

My sincere condolences to family and friends of the two that have lost their lives, I would also like to wish the injured lady my thoughts at this very sad time and hope she recovers.

My heart goes out to shannons family .My daughter was one of many friends of shannons & was heart broken to hear the news yesterday.Shannon was a lovely happy girl now she is in heaven looking down but not forgotten.thinking of you during this terrible time,from sophie sainsbury kev yaz & talia x

First of all my condolences to the family and RIP to those that died in this tragic accident.

Can I please ask that the Echo does one of two things on these boards as some of the above posts are disgusting in my opinion.

1. Moderate the boards properly.

2. Allow only those who have registered using a checkabable email address to post.

Some of the above posts only hurt all those concerned and that is not right in this day and age.

Please think about this Echo as one day you may be cited in a case where you have been negligent in your responsibility in putting up this facility without making sure its used by responsible people only.

rip channon, i didn't know you personally but I know you are very close to a friend of mine, I was completely shocked when i heard the news. my thoughts go out to all the family and friends at this horrible horrible time.

and i agree with the post above 100%.
x

Just want to pass on my condolences to the fsmily, my heart goes out to you all

Grumpy wrote:
First of all my condolences to the family and RIP to those that died in this tragic accident. Can I please ask that the Echo does one of two things on these boards as some of the above posts are disgusting in my opinion. 1. Moderate the boards properly. 2. Allow only those who have registered using a checkabable email address to post. Some of the above posts only hurt all those concerned and that is not right in this day and age. Please think about this Echo as one day you may be cited in a case where you have been negligent in your responsibility in putting up this facility without making sure its used by responsible people only.

I AGREE 100%

Grumpy wrote:
First of all my condolences to the family and RIP to those that died in this tragic accident.

Can I please ask that the Echo does one of two things on these boards as some of the above posts are disgusting in my opinion.

1. Moderate the boards properly.

2. Allow only those who have registered using a checkabable email address to post.

Some of the above posts only hurt all those concerned and that is not right in this day and age.

Please think about this Echo as one day you may be cited in a case where you have been negligent in your responsibility in putting up this facility without making sure its used by responsible people only.

Yep i do too

Sorry, I have previously given incorrect information it is Channon and not Sharnie, we have been so shocked and confused, it!s so, so terrible.

To Nicky & all the Kevern family,

So sorry to hear the tragic news! All our love and best wishes to you. I remember when Channon was born, such a lovely little girl. So terrible to be taken at such a young age. With lots of love to you all

Jo, Tony, Lauren & Keira ****

Our hearts & thoughts to those who are hurt & who have perished- Regardless of blame we are all road users & in our usage have a responsibility to each other. Enough blaming & ranting-We can all make mistakes- Thats what makes us human.
This is a poem for Bikers & it wouldn't hurt for our four wheel users to read either.

quote

I saw you, hug your purse closer to you in the supermarket store line.
But, you didn't see me, put an extra £10.00 in the collection plate last Sunday.
I saw you, pull your child closer when we passed each other on the pavement.
But, you didn't see me, playing Santa at the local hospital
I saw you, change your mind about going into the restaurant.
But, you didn't see me, attending a meeting to raise more money for the disabled riders.
I saw you, roll up your window and shake your head when I drove by.
But, you didn't see me, driving behind you when you flicked your cigarette butt out the car window.
I saw you, frown at me when I smiled at your children.
But, you didn't see me, when I took time off from work to run toys to the homeless.
I saw you, stare at my long hair.
But, you didn't see me, and my friends cut ten inches off for cancer relief.
I saw you, roll your eyes at our leather coats and gloves.
But, you didn't see me, and my brothers donate our old coats and gloves to those that had none.
I saw you, look in fright at my tattoos.
But, you didn't see me, cry as my children were born and have their name written over and in my heart.
I saw you, change lanes while rushing off to go somewhere.
But, you didn't see me, going home to be with my family.
I saw you, complain about how loud and noisy our bikes can be.
But, you didn't see me, when you were changing the CD and drifted into my lane.
I saw you, yelling at your kids in the car.
But, you didn't see me, pat my child's hands, knowing he was safe behind me.

I saw you, reading the newspaper or map as you drove down the road.
But, you didn't see me, squeeze my wife's leg when she told me to take the next turn.
I saw you, race down the road in the rain .
But, you didn't see me, get soaked to the skin so my son could have the car to go on his date.
I saw you, run the amber light just to save a few minutes of time.
But, you didn't see me, trying to turn right.
I saw you, cut me off because you needed to be in the lane I was in.
But, you didn't see me, leave the road.
I saw you, waiting impatiently for my friends to pass.
But, you didn't see me. I wasn't there.
I saw you, go home to your family.
But, you didn't see me. Because, I died that day you cut me off.
I was just a biker,.....
A person with friends and a family.
But, you didn't see me.
Written by Anonymous~ Lifted from US site & altered for UK ~ J.C

Another tragic waste of life, so sad. If everyone played by the high way code, used there mirrors and observations correctly and stuck to the speed limit, then accidents like this might not happen.

Nicole and Adam our thoughts are with you and all your family, We can't begin to imagine how you feel.

We didn't know Terry but Channon will be dearly missed by Justine, she is devastated to have lost one of her best friends.

miss you forever ****

i regulary witness reckless over taking by many bikers (and cars) on this road, driving far too fast. this is a road that i really believe needs speed cameras too many people have had accidents and died on this road. every one needs to look out for each other.

To quote yesterday's Echo. "One of the busiest roads in Hampshire" Motorways excepted, this is correct. So when are the County Council/Highways Agency going to do the appropriate thing and make this road a dual carriageway? There have been many needless accidents over the years which road improvements would have probably eliminated. Thoughts go to the bereaved's families. And before all the tree huggers start whining about destroying the environment, just put a thought to what comes first: saving rare species of dung beetles or humans. Come on the responsible authorities, do the right thing and improve this nightmare stretch of road