Well there you go, right back where we started, and this recent eruption of hype was totally without any basis. Instead of the pro-skating campaigners going round the same old loop again perhaps they (or the Echo) can tell us which existing services should be cut to provide the subsidy for an ice rink, or shall we all continue to live in a grownups Lets Pretend land where nothing has to be paid for?

Perhaps we need to remind brick and co of my suggested tag line.

"We have business plan and a developer, can you help us find a site please?”

It appears that after 20 years the pressure group has managed to pull off the great coup of repeating the same plan of action that failed 20 years ago ( a petition and a march).

Perhaps now they need to put forward a rational plan and not a shouted demand with out substance.

If they could do this they would have my support, but they have failed to take the challenge of getting 50 people per week to take a coach to Basingstoke ice rink as a means of demonstrating demand.

So what happened to the thousands of supporters that last weeks Echo claimed would be there then?
The whole thing is a wast of time & energy. Just ask the investors that lost a fortune in Poole and Bournemouth.

live local, southampton there is land that could be used, test playing fields on the west side of the M271 next to the echo office
Sunny Saint they was there in name 5000 to 0,tower park ice rink at poole makes a very large profit there is no lost

southy wrote:
live local, southampton there is land that could be used, test playing fields on the west side of the M271 next to the echo office
Sunny Saint they was there in name 5000 to 0,tower park ice rink at poole makes a very large profit there is no lost

No, Southy, it isn't 5000-0. As I said on another story, there wasn't any petition for people against the idea. Stop making up statistics for this proven dead duck

George on it is 0 till the no vote can get of there butt and start a no petition it is simple really 5000 to 0

the ice rink at poole is in the same complex tower park,i know i take people there once a 1 mth,
the ice rink in bornmouth was closed down when tower park ice rink open up there was agreement between the 2 councils to have the one to service both areas because the one in bornmouth a developer wanted the land for building homes.the site do not list all that is there like it only say about the 1 swimming pool but there is 2 swimming pools there

the land next to the echo office can only be used for leisure and sports.it was part of the agreement when the gas works handed over this land to the city parks&greens and sports grounds.homes and industrial can not be built on this land

Why don't these people use some common sense. Its simple, not gunna be built as there is not enough money to be be made out of it. Bet even the campaigners would only use it once a month tops. All our land is gunna be used for flats and hotels as thats what developers make money from. Its up to the council to stop this but ofcourse our council have extremely low asperations. Unfortunate but true.

public transport links.are all ready in place redbridge train station a bout a 300 mt walk (location south of the land)main bus routes coming in from the west and north west,bus stop is only about 150 mts south of the land.motorway turn off points lordshill junction or redbridge roundabout.theres all ready eletric,gas,water and sewage mains very close by (with in 50 feet)a ice rink here could service the whole of southampton and take in areas like salisbury fordingbridge east of ringwood and east of christchurch.
there are all ready a few developers about that are willing to build an ice rink

southy wrote:
George on it is 0 till the no vote can get of there butt and start a no petition it is simple really 5000 to 0

Utter nonsense

I see the neggies are back with their sniping remarks because they know jack.

British Army Blades 3
Southampton Vikings 7

Read it and weep guys, we never give up.

Good on you southy, let em' have it.

George wrote:

southy wrote:
George on it is 0 till the no vote can get of there butt and start a no petition it is simple really 5000 to 0

Utter nonsense

Go on George, take up the challenge and lets see what support you get.

George 0
USS 5000

THE BRICK wrote:
I see the neggies are back with their sniping remarks because they know jack.

British Army Blades 3
Southampton Vikings 7

Read it and weep guys, we never give up.

Good on you southy, let em' have it.

Read it and weep? Read what and weep? If you seriously think that the result of some game is more meaningful to your campaign than the actual facts of the matter, you're utterly blind. Your demands were not met. Read THAT and weep

George wrote:

southy wrote:
live local, southampton there is land that could be used, test playing fields on the west side of the M271 next to the echo office
Sunny Saint they was there in name 5000 to 0,tower park ice rink at poole makes a very large profit there is no lost

No, Southy, it isn't 5000-0. As I said on another story, there wasn't any petition for people against the idea. Stop making up statistics for this proven dead duck

Georges duck has been killed, plucked, cooked and eaten.

Still a big fat zero whatever way you want to see it.

5000+ to USS

listen wrote:
Why don\'t these people use some common sense. Its simple, not gunna be built as there is not enough money to be be made out of it. Bet even the campaigners would only use it once a month tops. All our land is gunna be used for flats and hotels as thats what developers make money from. Its up to the council to stop this but ofcourse our council have extremely low asperations. Unfortunate but true.

this is true its called short term thinking and the quick buck.
we got to many hotels now and i not heard of one yet that has been filled up even for 1 day.there houses flats and apartments in southampton that can not be sold some places have been empty for 6 plus more years.
and george its up to the no voters to start there own petition,not the yes voters to do it for them 5000 to 0

George wrote:

THE BRICK wrote:
I see the neggies are back with their sniping remarks because they know jack.

British Army Blades 3
Southampton Vikings 7

Read it and weep guys, we never give up.

Good on you southy, let em' have it.

Read it and weep? Read what and weep? If you seriously think that the result of some game is more meaningful to your campaign than the actual facts of the matter, you're utterly blind. Your demands were not met. Read THAT and weep

You know nothing about the campaign except what you read in the media, little do you really know what is happenning.

Hahaha, keep taking the pills George.

THE BRICK wrote:

George wrote:

southy wrote:
live local, southampton there is land that could be used, test playing fields on the west side of the M271 next to the echo office
Sunny Saint they was there in name 5000 to 0,tower park ice rink at poole makes a very large profit there is no lost

No, Southy, it isn't 5000-0. As I said on another story, there wasn't any petition for people against the idea. Stop making up statistics for this proven dead duck

Georges duck has been killed, plucked, cooked and eaten.

Still a big fat zero whatever way you want to see it.

5000+ to USS

Then why has your idea been turned down by the council? Sorry, you're making yourself out to be an utter buffoon now. Claiming some victory when your campaign has quite clearly failed just proves that you had no idea what you were talking about in the first place. How is it 5000-0? That would suggest that there are only 5000 people in the city.

THE BRICK wrote:

George wrote:

THE BRICK wrote:
I see the neggies are back with their sniping remarks because they know jack.

British Army Blades 3
Southampton Vikings 7

Read it and weep guys, we never give up.

Good on you southy, let em' have it.

Read it and weep? Read what and weep? If you seriously think that the result of some game is more meaningful to your campaign than the actual facts of the matter, you're utterly blind. Your demands were not met. Read THAT and weep

You know nothing about the campaign except what you read in the media, little do you really know what is happenning.

Hahaha, keep taking the pills George.

Oh, so one of Southampton's other city councils is going ahead with the idea, are they? You've failed with this stage, you might be able to find a private developer interested, but there's little point coming on here rubbishing everybody for saying this hasn't worked, when they're clearly right

Keep taking your own pills, the ones that blind you to bare facts

southy wrote:

listen wrote:
Why don\'t these people use some common sense. Its simple, not gunna be built as there is not enough money to be be made out of it. Bet even the campaigners would only use it once a month tops. All our land is gunna be used for flats and hotels as thats what developers make money from. Its up to the council to stop this but ofcourse our council have extremely low asperations. Unfortunate but true.

this is true its called short term thinking and the quick buck.
we got to many hotels now and i not heard of one yet that has been filled up even for 1 day.there houses flats and apartments in southampton that can not be sold some places have been empty for 6 plus more years.
and george its up to the no voters to start there own petition,not the yes voters to do it for them 5000 to 0

No, it isn't up to the "no" voters to start their own petition. They've already got their way, the council will not be building an ice rink. I don't know how to simplify it any further. If the "no" voters have "lost", where is the ice rink they failed to prevent?

Jesus, these people are behaving like utter morons. Claiming victory in the face of a total defeat

george the council has not turn it down at all its just that the developers who want to build an ice rink are beening out bid at the auction for land,
5000-0

THE BRICK wrote:

George wrote:

southy wrote:
George on it is 0 till the no vote can get of there butt and start a no petition it is simple really 5000 to 0

Utter nonsense

Go on George, take up the challenge and lets see what support you get.

George 0
USS 5000

What's the point in me actively campaigning for something that

a) I don't want to happen
b) Has already happened

?

You fail to remember that I actually would like an ice rink, I just don't think it's going to happen. Plus, this story clearly states the council have said no. Me campaigning after the fact would be even more pointless than you ranting repeatedly that 5000 people out of 200,000 is a "majority"

Fool

southy wrote:
george the council has not turn it down at all its just that the developers who want to build an ice rink are beening out bid at the auction for land,
5000-0

Question: is the council going to build you an ice rink? Answer yes or no, don't bleat on about what you think should happen, or present false evidence to prove that the actual outcome is a figment of our imaginations. Is the council building you an ice rink or not?

George wrote:

southy wrote:

listen wrote:
Why don\'t these people use some common sense. Its simple, not gunna be built as there is not enough money to be be made out of it. Bet even the campaigners would only use it once a month tops. All our land is gunna be used for flats and hotels as thats what developers make money from. Its up to the council to stop this but ofcourse our council have extremely low asperations. Unfortunate but true.

this is true its called short term thinking and the quick buck.
we got to many hotels now and i not heard of one yet that has been filled up even for 1 day.there houses flats and apartments in southampton that can not be sold some places have been empty for 6 plus more years.
and george its up to the no voters to start there own petition,not the yes voters to do it for them 5000 to 0

No, it isn't up to the "no" voters to start their own petition. They've already got their way, the council will not be building an ice rink. I don't know how to simplify it any further. If the "no" voters have "lost", where is the ice rink they failed to prevent?

Jesus, these people are behaving like utter morons. Claiming victory in the face of a total defeat

Yeah, thanks for the insult. The 'morons' got over 5000 supporters and a great hockey game which they won against the Army,

George still has a big fat has zero

THE BRICK wrote:

George wrote:

southy wrote:

listen wrote:
Why don\'t these people use some common sense. Its simple, not gunna be built as there is not enough money to be be made out of it. Bet even the campaigners would only use it once a month tops. All our land is gunna be used for flats and hotels as thats what developers make money from. Its up to the council to stop this but ofcourse our council have extremely low asperations. Unfortunate but true.

this is true its called short term thinking and the quick buck.
we got to many hotels now and i not heard of one yet that has been filled up even for 1 day.there houses flats and apartments in southampton that can not be sold some places have been empty for 6 plus more years.
and george its up to the no voters to start there own petition,not the yes voters to do it for them 5000 to 0

No, it isn't up to the "no" voters to start their own petition. They've already got their way, the council will not be building an ice rink. I don't know how to simplify it any further. If the "no" voters have "lost", where is the ice rink they failed to prevent?

Jesus, these people are behaving like utter morons. Claiming victory in the face of a total defeat

Yeah, thanks for the insult. The 'morons' got over 5000 supporters and a great hockey game which they won against the Army,

George still has a big fat has zero

This just proves how utterly and hopelessly confused you are on this issue. That your team won a game is good - well done, sincerely - but it has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with your campaign. What are you missing? If I said I scored over 50,000,000 on Donkey Kong last night (I didn't) would that have any bearing?

Trying to convince me that you've "won" something shows once more you haven't got a clue what you're talking about, and that you have only a slender grasp on reality

I can't be bothered to sit and "argue" with you all day (doubtless you'll claim that's "a victory" and it's because I "know" I've been beaten) because the bottom line is, you've failed. It's flattering that my agreement with you would carry more weight than the actual result itself, but seriously, stop kidding yourself

George doesn't have a big fat zero. He's unaffected by the result. End of story

George wrote:

southy wrote:
george the council has not turn it down at all its just that the developers who want to build an ice rink are beening out bid at the auction for land,
5000-0

Question: is the council going to build you an ice rink? Answer yes or no, don't bleat on about what you think should happen, or present false evidence to prove that the actual outcome is a figment of our imaginations. Is the council building you an ice rink or not?

george the council dont build them they just give planing permission.and they have giving an out line permission a few times to developers if they can aquire the land

southy wrote:

George wrote:

southy wrote:
george the council has not turn it down at all its just that the developers who want to build an ice rink are beening out bid at the auction for land,
5000-0

Question: is the council going to build you an ice rink? Answer yes or no, don't bleat on about what you think should happen, or present false evidence to prove that the actual outcome is a figment of our imaginations. Is the council building you an ice rink or not?

george the council dont build them they just give planing permission.and they have giving an out line permission a few times to developers if they can aquire the land

So not only do you make up statistics, you are also unable to answer a simple yes/no question. Are you an MP?

George wrote:

THE BRICK wrote:

George wrote:

southy wrote:
George on it is 0 till the no vote can get of there butt and start a no petition it is simple really 5000 to 0

Utter nonsense

Go on George, take up the challenge and lets see what support you get.

George 0
USS 5000

What's the point in me actively campaigning for something that

a) I don't want to happen
b) Has already happened

?

You fail to remember that I actually would like an ice rink, I just don't think it's going to happen. Plus, this story clearly states the council have said no. Me campaigning after the fact would be even more pointless than you ranting repeatedly that 5000 people out of 200,000 is a "majority"

Fool

Another insult, and the 'majority' is your invention, your perception.

Still a zero compared to our 5000+ oh and our 7 goals that was hard fought for by the Mighty Southampton Vikings.

THE BRICK wrote:

George wrote:

THE BRICK wrote:

George wrote:

southy wrote:
George on it is 0 till the no vote can get of there butt and start a no petition it is simple really 5000 to 0

Utter nonsense

Go on George, take up the challenge and lets see what support you get.

George 0
USS 5000

What's the point in me actively campaigning for something that

a) I don't want to happen
b) Has already happened

?

You fail to remember that I actually would like an ice rink, I just don't think it's going to happen. Plus, this story clearly states the council have said no. Me campaigning after the fact would be even more pointless than you ranting repeatedly that 5000 people out of 200,000 is a "majority"

Fool

Another insult, and the 'majority' is your invention, your perception.

Still a zero compared to our 5000+ oh and our 7 goals that was hard fought for by the Mighty Southampton Vikings.

Idiotic beyond belief, to be honest. Give up, you clealy live in cloud cuckoo land. The result of your game is 100% irrelevant.

*shakes head in disbelief that this person can even do their own shoelaces up*

goerge it do not matter if i was a mp or not mp's can only give support,its down to the local planning dept

George wrote:

southy wrote:

George wrote:

southy wrote:
george the council has not turn it down at all its just that the developers who want to build an ice rink are beening out bid at the auction for land,
5000-0

Question: is the council going to build you an ice rink? Answer yes or no, don't bleat on about what you think should happen, or present false evidence to prove that the actual outcome is a figment of our imaginations. Is the council building you an ice rink or not?

george the council dont build them they just give planing permission.and they have giving an out line permission a few times to developers if they can aquire the land

So not only do you make up statistics, you are also unable to answer a simple yes/no question. Are you an MP?

Gerogie, we have NEVER asked the council to build us an ice rink. Your perception that only you believe. The petition said QUOTE call upon the Southampton City Council to actively seek and assist interested parties in developing a new ice rink without any further delay
UNQUOTE That means go and invite developers and help them with an application to build a rink.

George 0

goerge look in the echo item dated 9:37am Wednesday 20th August 2008 head line;Council resolute over East Park
there a little bit
from this item
Despite initial estimates that the deal would be wrapped up in a couple of months, the council is still negotiatingwith a housebuilder, understood to be Lovell, more than a year after it won an auction for the site - beating a bid from local developers to build an £80m ice rink complex there.

so goerge its not made up statistics the statistics are there if you read it all and not just part whitch seems alot of people do on this site
5000-0

southy wrote:
goerge look in the echo item dated 9:37am Wednesday 20th August 2008 head line;Council resolute over East Park
there a little bit
from this item
Despite initial estimates that the deal would be wrapped up in a couple of months, the council is still negotiatingwith a housebuilder, understood to be Lovell, more than a year after it won an auction for the site - beating a bid from local developers to build an £80m ice rink complex there.

Dead right southy, Colin Warburg was the developer and that just goes to show that the council are the ones opposing development not the developers.

George -0
Southy 5000+

and he not the only one that been getting out bid at the auction by house builders

southy wrote:
and he not the only one that been getting out bid at the auction by house builders

The petition is still on the website if you are interested and they are still being sent to the council.

www.southampton-viki
ngs.co.uk

southy wrote:
the ice rink at poole is in the same complex tower park,i know i take people there once a 1 mth, the ice rink in bornmouth was closed down when tower park ice rink open up there was agreement between the 2 councils to have the one to service both areas because the one in bornmouth a developer wanted the land for building homes.the site do not list all that is there like it only say about the 1 swimming pool but there is 2 swimming pools there

The ice rink at Tower Park closed years ago and was replaced by the Bingo!!! You should pay more attention when you are there "every month!" see :http://www.towerpar
kcentre.co.uk for more info.

you mean the gala bingo they have the same building has the littlewoods bingo hall that was there it just change names that all you need to go down there and see what is there 2 swimming pools there site only say theres one there also a skittle allys a out door fun park with swings and roundabout ect that site only list a small amount thats there

George wrote:

THE BRICK wrote:

George wrote:

THE BRICK wrote:

George wrote:

southy wrote:
George on it is 0 till the no vote can get of there butt and start a no petition it is simple really 5000 to 0

Utter nonsense

Go on George, take up the challenge and lets see what support you get.

George 0
USS 5000

What\'s the point in me actively campaigning for something that

a) I don\'t want to happen
b) Has already happened

?

You fail to remember that I actually would like an ice rink, I just don\'t think it\'s going to happen. Plus, this story clearly states the council have said no. Me campaigning after the fact would be even more pointless than you ranting repeatedly that 5000 people out of 200,000 is a \"majority\"

Fool

Another insult, and the \'majority\' is your invention, your perception.

Still a zero compared to our 5000+ oh and our 7 goals that was hard fought for by the Mighty Southampton Vikings.

Idiotic beyond belief, to be honest. Give up, you clealy live in cloud cuckoo land. The result of your game is 100% irrelevant.

*shakes head in disbelief that this person can even do their own shoelaces up*

Nice humour!

"Buffoon" living in "Cloud Cuckoo Land" aptly fits both "Southy" and "The Brick".

The Council's response to the futile campaign and dodgy petition numbers has finally exposed these two to be 100% idiots.

Below is a copy of my two latest postings about these silly campaigners. I dont intend allowing them to exasperate me with any more of their nonsense, so I will not post again on this topic. Enjoyed your many contributions.

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"THE BRICK wrote:
Thank you for your comments. The online campaign will continue. USS have the commitment and the documentary evidence that the council has been given is far more relevant than can be divulged on a public forum.

THE BRICK is not looking for support from this or any other forum, just answering the points put across from the opposition.

Our support is solid.

The result of the reunion hockey game was British Army Blades 3 Southampton Vikings 7

Enough said"

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Contributor wrote:
"Your latest contribution indicates you are critically holed below the water line. Abandon ship. Salvage what dignity you can and swim for the shore. Plant a white flag in the sand then drag your bedraggled frame and tattered juvenile campaign flag home. There, put your feet up and watch skating on TV. You deserve a rest from public pronouncements. Your final action should be to murmur quietly to yourself, over and over: " I lost. It was a valiant campaign, but I lost. Now I must do the honourable thing and desist from further boring people rigid." Cup a hand to an ear and, like listening to a conch shell, you'll hear the rising crescendo of the local populace chanting : " Hurrah!!! ""

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Contributor wrote:
"The Lost Cause Brigade, of wishful thinkers, consistently try to blind with warm fuzzy anecdotal stuff or cite 100% incorrect facts. Totally ignoring reality they bounce back from whatever rational, intelligent, irrefutable, indisputable observations you put in front of them. Heavily into denial and deaf to reason, they will sorely try your patience! I'm not sure they are worth the effort, as they appear to cast themselves as die-hard lemmings. "

Contributor at lest we keep to one name and not many to hide behide.
the no brigade need to get out to others towns and citys to see what they got

Contributor wrote:
"The Lost Cause Brigade, of wishful thinkers, consistently try to blind with warm fuzzy anecdotal stuff or cite 100% incorrect facts. Totally ignoring reality they bounce back from whatever rational, intelligent, irrefutable, indisputable observations you put in front of them. Heavily into denial and deaf to reason, they will sorely try your patience! I'm not sure they are worth the effort, as they appear to cast themselves as die-hard lemmings. "

George, goodbye, and thanks for all the fish.

Southy please explain 1
Source
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org/wiki/Tower_Park
Tower Park is a leisure complex in Poole, Dorset, England. It was one of the first complexes of its kind when it opened in 1989, and it still continues to attract thousands of people from throughout the area. It is named after the large concrete water tower that sits at the top of the hill on which the complex is built. The complex is owned by X-Leisure who own twenty similar sites across the UK.
The site's main attractions include Splashdown - a waterpark boasting 12 slides, and Bowlplex - a 24 lane bowling alley previously known as Megabowl. The bowling centre has had a £1.25m regeneration, with the introduction of many of Bowlplex's sub brands including The Pool Pit and Video-World. There is also a Gala Bingo venue and a cinema with ten screens which was formerly owned by UCI, but as a result of a ruling by the Office of Fair Trading concerning the merger of UCI and Odeon Cinemas the theatre was sold to Empire Cinemas. There is also a video arcade and numerous restaurants, fast food outlets and free parking facilities. The complex's Burger King restraunt was rebuilt in 2005 after it was burnt down following an arson attack. Also onsite is a Tesco Extra which has its own parking facilities. There was formerly an ice rink at Tower Park called 'Ice Trax' but this was replaced by Gala Bingo in the mid 1990s.
Southy 2
Richmond ice rink London
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m-museum.org.uk/deta

il.asp?ContentID=336



The rink was sold to a property developer in 1978, who kept it running until 1987, when it was bought by another property company – the London and Edinburgh Trust. The company intended to develop the site for luxury housing. As part of the planning conditions, the company was obliged to locate an alternative site in the borough and construct a new rink on it. In 1989, the council, accepting £2.5M as compensation, withdrew this condition. In 1992, the rink closed, the building was demolished. No replacement rink has been built.


Brick 1
Why did you not mention that you and your group had already sought council approval for a feasibility study

Cabinet Meeting
Monday 16th April 2007
at 14:45 PM

ICE RINK FEASIBILITY
Report of the Cabinet Member for Leisure and Culture seeking approval for feasibility and scoping work to be undertaken in exploring options for an Ice Rink in Southampton, attached.
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on.gov.uk/thecouncil

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13. This report was received as a consultation item at the executive
decision-making on Monday 2nd April, 2007 and representations were
received from a Member of the Council and the Chair of the
Southampton Ice Dance and Figure Skating Club making the following
points:
• Several studies have already been made at considerable cost to
both ourselves and the City Council and you have copies of
these.
• Therefore, we trust any future study will not duplicate findings
such as the need to make the location of any ice rink easily
accessible by all forms of transport; to be in an area where the
public can also access other amenities and shopping; and of a
size that could encourage professionals to take up residence, ice
hockey to have suitable facilities and also facilities for skating
competitions and shows.
• We believe that to be financially viable the above are of prime
consideration and therefore any temporary building, on the
outskirts of the City, even if in the Sports Centre is unlikely to
attract the numbers necessary to make the venture successful.
• We are also aware of a proposed development near the City
Centre that would meet all the criteria as well as being within
easy access of the universities and some schools and colleges.
This could be provided at no ongoing cost to the Council
providing the site is made available.
• It would also incorporate other business ventures which would
become a financial asset to the City. We believe this is the best
way forward and the Council could have questions to answer if
this does not proceed.
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• Finally, could we publicly thank the Council for providing the ice
rink over the Christmas period – all who skated enjoyed it and
are hoping this could be the start of something big.
• We want to make it clear that we will want to deliver an Arena,
although a combination of an Ice Rink and Arena is perhaps not
the best package.
• It is clear there is a considerable skating fraternity in the City. It
is hoped we can learn from the mistakes made with the
temporary rink at Christmas – no canopy, limited observation
area, no instructors available to assist, very limited exhibition
skating, no opportunity for competitions, poor catering, staff
unable to speak English, location may not have been the best,
little or no sponsorship and there was a loss of £60k.
• In view of the above, permanent provision should be fully
explored.
• The business community is keen on much improved conference
facilities which would raise the image of the City – there is no
area suitable for a large conference.
14. In response to representations the following points were received and
noted:
• It is not our intention to repeat previous studies; however, we
need to ensure we fully understand the implications of new
market circumstances.
• It remains our intention to return permanent ice skating facilities
to the City if at all possible.
• The temporary ice rink at Christmas was a success. Years 2 and
3 should be better.
• The location was a good one. It wasn’t enclosed and so didn’t
feel inhibiting although it could have been more attractive.
• If the business community believe in an major conference centre
from their own resources, the Council would respond favourably
and would be keen to work with them.
15. The report has not been modified as a result of these representations.
ALTERNATIVE OPTIONS CONSIDERED AND REJECTED
16. Not to proceed with feasibility work on either project, rejected, as this would
not enable considered decisions to be made at a later date as to whether
Council should proceed with the provision of a temporary ice rink for
Christmas 2007 or a permanent ice rink

Will you both now please go and do your homework before posting ill thought and ill conceived ideas.