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4:33pm Wednesday 27th August 2008
THE tallest building in Southampton is set to rise on the former Meridian TV site as part of a development of 500 flats, the Daily Echo can today reveal.
Builders are now putting the finishing touches to plans to create a 27-storey tower on the Northam site, which is estimated to be about 90m high.
Developer Oakdene Homes said it hoped the "landmark tower" would form an "eastern gateway" to the city.
The revelation comes just days after planning chiefs backed a scheme for 1,620 homes, including more than 1,500 flats, on the former VT shipbuilding site in Woolston.
The tallest of the three towers in that project, which garnered 1,639 objections, was 25 storeys, stretching 82m into the air, but would likely be dwarfed by the proposals for the Northam site.
It is part of a trend to ever taller buildings in the city centre, which has seen a series of proposals for skyline-shattering projects.
Currently the tallest building in the city is Millbrook Towers at 25 storeys and 73m, although that is shortly set to be surpassed by the 21-storey Radisson SAS Hotel being built in East Park Terrace. Thanks to a metal spire, it reaches 83m.
Other big towers are also set to go up at Watermark WestQuay, formerly known as WestQuay Phase Three; Ocean Village, where plans to build a 13-storey hotel have been approved, as have those for a 14- storey tower known as the City Gateway in Stoneham Way, and a 15-storey tower in Mayflower Plaza.
Surrey-based Oakdene bought the seven-acre former Meridian TV studios in Summers Street and Northam Road from ITV for £8.5m. It estimates the eventual project of 500 apartments and some commercial space will be worth £100m.
Carl Turpin, managing director of Oakdene Homes, said: "The transformation of this brownfield site will benefit the whole city. Oakdene Homes is proud to play its part in the regeneration of the city's waterfront into a desirable residential and commercial location."
Work has started on demolishing the studios, with Oakdene planning to use the site for open storage and car parking while it puts the finishing touches to its dramatic plans.
Royston Smith, Cabinet member for economic development, said: "We are keen to see the site developed and it would be an obvious location for a residential development.
"Some sites don't lend themselves to a large density of residential developments which is why we have seen the objections on the Woolston Riverside site.
"On this particular site it is suitable because it is on a main bus route and a main road into town.
"If we were going to have a tall building on a site this would be it. It would definitely be an iconic tall gateway building and of course this is amain gateway into the city."
Cllr Smith added that the proposals still needed to deal with highways issues and the development was months away from entering the planning stages.
"It's months away from a planning application but we are definitely keen to get going," he said.
Perry, Soton says...
10:27am Wed 27 Aug 08
N, says...
10:32am Wed 27 Aug 08
Andy Pandy, Chandlers Ford says...
10:36am Wed 27 Aug 08
Wewullywinky, says...
10:36am Wed 27 Aug 08
Land Man, Here & There says...
10:43am Wed 27 Aug 08
Scaremonger Bob, says...
10:43am Wed 27 Aug 08
Wewullywinky wrote:Another 9/11? Complete rubbish! "Won't somebody think of the children!"-esque reaction. Why would a building need to be in a flight path to be open to that? Why would a skyscraper in a minor European town be a target on the scale of the WTC in NY? If you don't like the idea of the tower block, you can say so without having to resort to this sort of crucifix-waving, fearful nonsense. "Argh! We fear change!"
Obviosuly Southampton is expecting an infulx of immagrants and victims of recession and need yet another block of flats to house them.
What is it with this city council and tall buildings scaring our city. Do they have a tall building fetish at the moment.
As ospreysaint says a building of this size on the flight path of 02 is not sensible, just leaves it open for another 9/11
Trevor the Weather, Sometime in 1970's Northam says...
10:54am Wed 27 Aug 08
Wewullywinky, says...
11:03am Wed 27 Aug 08
Scaremonger Bob wrote:Why is it utterly ridiculous, it's plausable high occupancy building on a flight path in a country where security is pants and data goes missing. A country where terrorists live and use our money to plot against us. A country that leaves it borders open to illegal immagrants and we give them accomodation. All in all it leaves us open to another 9/11 and a very large tower block very close to a landing/takeoff path makes for an open target.
Wewullywinky wrote: Obviosuly Southampton is expecting an infulx of immagrants and victims of recession and need yet another block of flats to house them. What is it with this city council and tall buildings scaring our city. Do they have a tall building fetish at the moment. As ospreysaint says a building of this size on the flight path of 02 is not sensible, just leaves it open for another 9/11Another 9/11? Complete rubbish! "Won't somebody think of the children!"-esque reaction. Why would a building need to be in a flight path to be open to that? Why would a skyscraper in a minor European town be a target on the scale of the WTC in NY? If you don't like the idea of the tower block, you can say so without having to resort to this sort of crucifix-waving, fearful nonsense. "Argh! We fear change!" Pah! Sorry for being a bit harsh, but using 9/11 to make your point here is utterly ridiculous
Scaremonger Bob, says...
11:07am Wed 27 Aug 08
Fred, says...
11:12am Wed 27 Aug 08
Wewullywinky wrote:The fact it is on a flighpath is irrelevant - the World Trade Centre was not on a flight path for obvious reasons!
Scaremonger Bob wrote:Why is it utterly ridiculous, it's plausable high occupancy building on a flight path in a country where security is pants and data goes missing. A country where terrorists live and use our money to plot against us. A country that leaves it borders open to illegal immagrants and we give them accomodation. All in all it leaves us open to another 9/11 and a very large tower block very close to a landing/takeoff path makes for an open target.Wewullywinky wrote: Obviosuly Southampton is expecting an infulx of immagrants and victims of recession and need yet another block of flats to house them. What is it with this city council and tall buildings scaring our city. Do they have a tall building fetish at the moment. As ospreysaint says a building of this size on the flight path of 02 is not sensible, just leaves it open for another 9/11Another 9/11? Complete rubbish! "Won't somebody think of the children!"-esque reaction. Why would a building need to be in a flight path to be open to that? Why would a skyscraper in a minor European town be a target on the scale of the WTC in NY? If you don't like the idea of the tower block, you can say so without having to resort to this sort of crucifix-waving, fearful nonsense. "Argh! We fear change!" Pah! Sorry for being a bit harsh, but using 9/11 to make your point here is utterly ridiculous
southy, redbridge says...
11:15am Wed 27 Aug 08
Tut tut, says...
11:19am Wed 27 Aug 08
Scaremonger Bob, says...
11:24am Wed 27 Aug 08
The fact it is on a flighpath is irrelevant - the World Trade Centre was not on a flight path for obvious reasons!
Andy, Locks Heath says...
11:33am Wed 27 Aug 08
Wewullywinky wrote:Scaremonger Bob is quite right - your argument suggests that no building anywhere in the world should be over a moderate tenament height. What about all those already built? There must be a dozen of these "terrorist death traps" around Southampton! Shall we demolish Weston Towers tomorrow? They are justas much under the flight path as this one! Should we shut down the rail network permanently in case of another Madrid, CLose down all our bus routes, or abandon all football matches in case of another Heysel? I suspect though that like Bob suspects you are just using 9/11 as a Nimby excuse because for some bizarre reason you just don't want to see any progress or development. So let's just leave it as a rat infested bombsite then. Happy now?
Obviosuly Southampton is expecting an infulx of immagrants and victims of recession and need yet another block of flats to house them.
What is it with this city council and tall buildings scaring our city. Do they have a tall building fetish at the moment.
As ospreysaint says a building of this size on the flight path of 02 is not sensible, just leaves it open for another 9/11
Soton Resident, says...
11:45am Wed 27 Aug 08
Andy wrote:It's going to be rat infested anyway with drugies, social loosers etc etc.
Wewullywinky wrote: Obviosuly Southampton is expecting an infulx of immagrants and victims of recession and need yet another block of flats to house them. What is it with this city council and tall buildings scaring our city. Do they have a tall building fetish at the moment. As ospreysaint says a building of this size on the flight path of 02 is not sensible, just leaves it open for another 9/11Scaremonger Bob is quite right - your argument suggests that no building anywhere in the world should be over a moderate tenament height. What about all those already built? There must be a dozen of these "terrorist death traps" around Southampton! Shall we demolish Weston Towers tomorrow? They are justas much under the flight path as this one! Should we shut down the rail network permanently in case of another Madrid, CLose down all our bus routes, or abandon all football matches in case of another Heysel? I suspect though that like Bob suspects you are just using 9/11 as a Nimby excuse because for some bizarre reason you just don't want to see any progress or development. So let's just leave it as a rat infested bombsite then. Happy now?
kebab man, saterday bannana says...
12:05pm Wed 27 Aug 08
Fed up, Southampton says...
12:19pm Wed 27 Aug 08
Fred, says...
12:27pm Wed 27 Aug 08
Andy wrote:Anyone who remembers the IRA's bombing campaigns in the UK will know that the governmental response at the time, whilst often hugely overblown in its treatment of Irish people, was essentially to ensure "business as usual" for as many people as possible.
Wewullywinky wrote: Obviosuly Southampton is expecting an infulx of immagrants and victims of recession and need yet another block of flats to house them. What is it with this city council and tall buildings scaring our city. Do they have a tall building fetish at the moment. As ospreysaint says a building of this size on the flight path of 02 is not sensible, just leaves it open for another 9/11Scaremonger Bob is quite right - your argument suggests that no building anywhere in the world should be over a moderate tenament height. What about all those already built? There must be a dozen of these "terrorist death traps" around Southampton! Shall we demolish Weston Towers tomorrow? They are justas much under the flight path as this one! Should we shut down the rail network permanently in case of another Madrid, CLose down all our bus routes, or abandon all football matches in case of another Heysel? I suspect though that like Bob suspects you are just using 9/11 as a Nimby excuse because for some bizarre reason you just don't want to see any progress or development. So let's just leave it as a rat infested bombsite then. Happy now?
Condor Man, Southampton says...
12:29pm Wed 27 Aug 08
carrots mccoy, says...
12:37pm Wed 27 Aug 08
goard, Eastern Gateway says...
12:38pm Wed 27 Aug 08
ann robinson, southampton says...
12:56pm Wed 27 Aug 08
Anon, Southampton says...
1:01pm Wed 27 Aug 08
SJ, Woolston says...
1:04pm Wed 27 Aug 08
Mr E, Eastleigh says...
1:06pm Wed 27 Aug 08
ken, stubbington says...
1:06pm Wed 27 Aug 08
Red Rooster, Bitterne says...
1:06pm Wed 27 Aug 08
George, Soton says...
1:10pm Wed 27 Aug 08
Mental Mickey, Tatchbury says...
1:13pm Wed 27 Aug 08
ken wrote:You're one and the same person.
Nice comment Kebab man, good to see you are cleaning up your act. I think I quite like you now. You are a good bloke well done.
dangerousMike, creeping up the backstairs says...
1:16pm Wed 27 Aug 08
dave, Millbrook says...
1:25pm Wed 27 Aug 08
kebab man, tin pot says...
1:29pm Wed 27 Aug 08
Sotonian, Southampton says...
1:32pm Wed 27 Aug 08
k, says...
1:32pm Wed 27 Aug 08
kebab man wrote:TROLL Do not respond to this idiot.
Metal mike think kebab man someone else he wrong kebab man good turkey towmn man strong with two wife......he not no ken man englee man with small bit and weak
kebab man, on my own says...
1:36pm Wed 27 Aug 08
k wrote:like you just did ha ha kebab man no idiot..why you cant make post without be nasty.........you not grown up
kebab man wrote: Metal mike think kebab man someone else he wrong kebab man good turkey towmn man strong with two wife......he not no ken man englee man with small bit and weakTROLL Do not respond to this idiot.
Coast To Coast, The Southern Television Archive says...
1:40pm Wed 27 Aug 08
Trevor the Weather wrote:Hats off to you Trevor - best post on this thread by a mile :0)
They could call it Dineage Towers , paint it orange and put a thatched roof on it.
kebab man, dineage towers says...
1:45pm Wed 27 Aug 08
Terry Johnson, Turning in my grave says...
1:53pm Wed 27 Aug 08
Terry Johnson, Turning in my Grave says...
1:56pm Wed 27 Aug 08
Ian Scrivins, 6 ft under says...
1:59pm Wed 27 Aug 08
sainth, southampton says...
2:08pm Wed 27 Aug 08
ll, So'ton says...
2:19pm Wed 27 Aug 08
I shRINK, Hostel for down & outs says...
2:31pm Wed 27 Aug 08
Graham, southampton says...
2:39pm Wed 27 Aug 08
goard wrote:Deserve? How so?
From Hythe I saw the eternal block of flats - faceless, unimaginable memory of desperateness, which has gone on for many years and no one could honestly say 'WHAT A GATEWAY'and to add another high rise block of flats (as with Redbridge) we all look upon it as a desperate attempt to house the homeless - they deserve a bit of greenery and pride in their surroundings instead of a concrete jungle. Are you all attempting to cage animals - they are HUMANS and deserve better. goard
Robert, Highfield says...
3:17pm Wed 27 Aug 08
clair, Tower block says...
3:57pm Wed 27 Aug 08
Mike English, Soton says...
4:10pm Wed 27 Aug 08
Jim Statetheobvious, says...
4:18pm Wed 27 Aug 08
Mike English wrote:A far-from-complete selection:
All this talk of 9/11. Am i missing something? What happened on the 9th of November?
Christoff, says...
4:49pm Wed 27 Aug 08
Jim Statetheobvious wrote:love it
Mike English wrote: All this talk of 9/11. Am i missing something? What happened on the 9th of November?A far-from-complete selection: 1620 - The Mayflower sights land at Cape Cod 1729 - The Treaty of Seville was signed 1861 - The first recorded Canadian Football match is played 1862 - Union General Ambrose Burnside assumes command of the Army of the Potomac during American Civil War 1872 - The Great Boston Fire 1887 - Pearl Harbour handed over to USA 1888 - Jack the Ripper kills his last known victim 1918 - Kaiser Wilhelm II of Germany abdicates after the German Revolution 1921 - Albert Einstein is awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics 1938 - Kristallnacht, Nazi Germany's first large-scale physical act of anti-Jewish violence, begins. 1953 - Cambodia becomes independent from France. 1967 - Apollo program: NASA launches the unmanned Apollo 4 test spacecraft 1967 - First issue of Rolling Stone Magazine is published. 1989 - Fall of the Berlin Wall. 1998 - Capital punishment in the United Kingdom, already abolished for murder, is completely abolished for all remaining capital offences It's also the birthdays of Jill Dando, Chris Jericho and Tony Slattery, amongst others, and the anniversary of the death of Neville Chamberlain.
Simply Red, Woolston says...
4:51pm Wed 27 Aug 08
Wewullywinky wrote:If this building is on the flight path, then it should be pretty safe. The 9/11 incident did not happen on a flight of either of New York's airports, the terrorists had to divert from the flight path.
Obviosuly Southampton is expecting an infulx of immagrants and victims of recession and need yet another block of flats to house them. What is it with this city council and tall buildings scaring our city. Do they have a tall building fetish at the moment. As ospreysaint says a building of this size on the flight path of 02 is not sensible, just leaves it open for another 9/11
Scared By New Building, says...
5:00pm Wed 27 Aug 08
Anon, Soton says...
5:13pm Wed 27 Aug 08
Barry George, happily free says...
5:28pm Wed 27 Aug 08
Jim Statetheobvious wrote:Will Jill Dando be doing anything for her birthday this year?
Mike English wrote: All this talk of 9/11. Am i missing something? What happened on the 9th of November?A far-from-complete selection: 1620 - The Mayflower sights land at Cape Cod 1729 - The Treaty of Seville was signed 1861 - The first recorded Canadian Football match is played 1862 - Union General Ambrose Burnside assumes command of the Army of the Potomac during American Civil War 1872 - The Great Boston Fire 1887 - Pearl Harbour handed over to USA 1888 - Jack the Ripper kills his last known victim 1918 - Kaiser Wilhelm II of Germany abdicates after the German Revolution 1921 - Albert Einstein is awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics 1938 - Kristallnacht, Nazi Germany's first large-scale physical act of anti-Jewish violence, begins. 1953 - Cambodia becomes independent from France. 1967 - Apollo program: NASA launches the unmanned Apollo 4 test spacecraft 1967 - First issue of Rolling Stone Magazine is published. 1989 - Fall of the Berlin Wall. 1998 - Capital punishment in the United Kingdom, already abolished for murder, is completely abolished for all remaining capital offences It's also the birthdays of Jill Dando, Chris Jericho and Tony Slattery, amongst others, and the anniversary of the death of Neville Chamberlain.
Counting the money already, Ground floor says...
5:30pm Wed 27 Aug 08
Jim Statetheobvious, says...
5:36pm Wed 27 Aug 08
Barry George wrote:Nope.
Jim Statetheobvious wrote:Will Jill Dando be doing anything for her birthday this year?
Mike English wrote: All this talk of 9/11. Am i missing something? What happened on the 9th of November?A far-from-complete selection: 1620 - The Mayflower sights land at Cape Cod 1729 - The Treaty of Seville was signed 1861 - The first recorded Canadian Football match is played 1862 - Union General Ambrose Burnside assumes command of the Army of the Potomac during American Civil War 1872 - The Great Boston Fire 1887 - Pearl Harbour handed over to USA 1888 - Jack the Ripper kills his last known victim 1918 - Kaiser Wilhelm II of Germany abdicates after the German Revolution 1921 - Albert Einstein is awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics 1938 - Kristallnacht, Nazi Germany's first large-scale physical act of anti-Jewish violence, begins. 1953 - Cambodia becomes independent from France. 1967 - Apollo program: NASA launches the unmanned Apollo 4 test spacecraft 1967 - First issue of Rolling Stone Magazine is published. 1989 - Fall of the Berlin Wall. 1998 - Capital punishment in the United Kingdom, already abolished for murder, is completely abolished for all remaining capital offences It's also the birthdays of Jill Dando, Chris Jericho and Tony Slattery, amongst others, and the anniversary of the death of Neville Chamberlain.
hoo flung dung, soton says...
5:44pm Wed 27 Aug 08
Dave, Dibden says...
6:05pm Wed 27 Aug 08
too true, says...
7:38pm Wed 27 Aug 08
Dave wrote:well it certainly is boring, test or not
If you look on the Southampton city web site there is a planning application make by Barrats that was withdrawn.
The reason being that they had test borings made on the site and found that the ground would not take a building more than 6 stories high.So 27 stories will sink in the mud and produce underground car parks
Ospreysaint, Southampton says...
10:19am Wed 27 Aug 08