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4:33pm Wednesday 27th August 2008

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THE tallest building in Southampton is set to rise on the former Meridian TV site as part of a development of 500 flats, the Daily Echo can today reveal.

Builders are now putting the finishing touches to plans to create a 27-storey tower on the Northam site, which is estimated to be about 90m high.

Developer Oakdene Homes said it hoped the "landmark tower" would form an "eastern gateway" to the city.

The revelation comes just days after planning chiefs backed a scheme for 1,620 homes, including more than 1,500 flats, on the former VT shipbuilding site in Woolston.

The tallest of the three towers in that project, which garnered 1,639 objections, was 25 storeys, stretching 82m into the air, but would likely be dwarfed by the proposals for the Northam site.

It is part of a trend to ever taller buildings in the city centre, which has seen a series of proposals for skyline-shattering projects.

Currently the tallest building in the city is Millbrook Towers at 25 storeys and 73m, although that is shortly set to be surpassed by the 21-storey Radisson SAS Hotel being built in East Park Terrace. Thanks to a metal spire, it reaches 83m.

Other big towers are also set to go up at Watermark WestQuay, formerly known as WestQuay Phase Three; Ocean Village, where plans to build a 13-storey hotel have been approved, as have those for a 14- storey tower known as the City Gateway in Stoneham Way, and a 15-storey tower in Mayflower Plaza.

Surrey-based Oakdene bought the seven-acre former Meridian TV studios in Summers Street and Northam Road from ITV for £8.5m. It estimates the eventual project of 500 apartments and some commercial space will be worth £100m.

Carl Turpin, managing director of Oakdene Homes, said: "The transformation of this brownfield site will benefit the whole city. Oakdene Homes is proud to play its part in the regeneration of the city's waterfront into a desirable residential and commercial location."

Work has started on demolishing the studios, with Oakdene planning to use the site for open storage and car parking while it puts the finishing touches to its dramatic plans.

Royston Smith, Cabinet member for economic development, said: "We are keen to see the site developed and it would be an obvious location for a residential development.

"Some sites don't lend themselves to a large density of residential developments which is why we have seen the objections on the Woolston Riverside site.

"On this particular site it is suitable because it is on a main bus route and a main road into town.

"If we were going to have a tall building on a site this would be it. It would definitely be an iconic tall gateway building and of course this is amain gateway into the city."

Cllr Smith added that the proposals still needed to deal with highways issues and the development was months away from entering the planning stages.

"It's months away from a planning application but we are definitely keen to get going," he said.

  • See today's Daily Echo for the full story.

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Ospreysaint, Southampton says...
10:19am Wed 27 Aug 08

Does it make sense to construct a large multi-story building under the flight path for Runway 02 at the airport?

Perry, Soton says...
10:27am Wed 27 Aug 08

Wow (Factor)!!!

N, says...
10:32am Wed 27 Aug 08

I think they should put the Banana back there instead.

Andy Pandy, Chandlers Ford says...
10:36am Wed 27 Aug 08

Anything much over 12 floors wont get built~ unless the airport is got shot of which in itself would not be such a bad thing.
Even our city wont lets anything overshaddow the clock tower, so think this none like the ice rink is pie in the sinking mud !

Wewullywinky, says...
10:36am Wed 27 Aug 08

Obviosuly Southampton is expecting an infulx of immagrants and victims of recession and need yet another block of flats to house them.

What is it with this city council and tall buildings scaring our city. Do they have a tall building fetish at the moment.

As ospreysaint says a building of this size on the flight path of 02 is not sensible, just leaves it open for another 9/11

Land Man, Here & There says...
10:43am Wed 27 Aug 08

Any planning application that falls within a certain radius of each end of the runway is automatically referred to the CAA as a statutory consultee. It would be hard to imagine that Oakdene's consultants had not already considered the flightpath as the information regarding the height & positioning of tall buildings is public knowledge. In terms of viability I could not imagine this being started for at least 2 years, but they will need a consent in place ready for when the market recovers.

Scaremonger Bob, says...
10:43am Wed 27 Aug 08

Wewullywinky wrote:
Obviosuly Southampton is expecting an infulx of immagrants and victims of recession and need yet another block of flats to house them.

What is it with this city council and tall buildings scaring our city. Do they have a tall building fetish at the moment.

As ospreysaint says a building of this size on the flight path of 02 is not sensible, just leaves it open for another 9/11
Another 9/11? Complete rubbish! "Won't somebody think of the children!"-esque reaction. Why would a building need to be in a flight path to be open to that? Why would a skyscraper in a minor European town be a target on the scale of the WTC in NY? If you don't like the idea of the tower block, you can say so without having to resort to this sort of crucifix-waving, fearful nonsense. "Argh! We fear change!"

Pah! Sorry for being a bit harsh, but using 9/11 to make your point here is utterly ridiculous

Trevor the Weather, Sometime in 1970's Northam says...
10:54am Wed 27 Aug 08

They could call it Dineage Towers , paint it orange and put a thatched roof on it.

Wewullywinky, says...
11:03am Wed 27 Aug 08

Scaremonger Bob wrote:
Wewullywinky wrote: Obviosuly Southampton is expecting an infulx of immagrants and victims of recession and need yet another block of flats to house them. What is it with this city council and tall buildings scaring our city. Do they have a tall building fetish at the moment. As ospreysaint says a building of this size on the flight path of 02 is not sensible, just leaves it open for another 9/11
Another 9/11? Complete rubbish! "Won't somebody think of the children!"-esque reaction. Why would a building need to be in a flight path to be open to that? Why would a skyscraper in a minor European town be a target on the scale of the WTC in NY? If you don't like the idea of the tower block, you can say so without having to resort to this sort of crucifix-waving, fearful nonsense. "Argh! We fear change!" Pah! Sorry for being a bit harsh, but using 9/11 to make your point here is utterly ridiculous
Why is it utterly ridiculous, it's plausable high occupancy building on a flight path in a country where security is pants and data goes missing. A country where terrorists live and use our money to plot against us. A country that leaves it borders open to illegal immagrants and we give them accomodation. All in all it leaves us open to another 9/11 and a very large tower block very close to a landing/takeoff path makes for an open target.

Scaremonger Bob, says...
11:07am Wed 27 Aug 08

"Another 9/11"? A somewhat hysterical term, don't you think? What does "flight path" have to do with anything? All tall buildings are plausible targets.

Fred, says...
11:12am Wed 27 Aug 08

Wewullywinky wrote:
Scaremonger Bob wrote:
Wewullywinky wrote: Obviosuly Southampton is expecting an infulx of immagrants and victims of recession and need yet another block of flats to house them. What is it with this city council and tall buildings scaring our city. Do they have a tall building fetish at the moment. As ospreysaint says a building of this size on the flight path of 02 is not sensible, just leaves it open for another 9/11
Another 9/11? Complete rubbish! "Won't somebody think of the children!"-esque reaction. Why would a building need to be in a flight path to be open to that? Why would a skyscraper in a minor European town be a target on the scale of the WTC in NY? If you don't like the idea of the tower block, you can say so without having to resort to this sort of crucifix-waving, fearful nonsense. "Argh! We fear change!" Pah! Sorry for being a bit harsh, but using 9/11 to make your point here is utterly ridiculous
Why is it utterly ridiculous, it's plausable high occupancy building on a flight path in a country where security is pants and data goes missing. A country where terrorists live and use our money to plot against us. A country that leaves it borders open to illegal immagrants and we give them accomodation. All in all it leaves us open to another 9/11 and a very large tower block very close to a landing/takeoff path makes for an open target.
The fact it is on a flighpath is irrelevant - the World Trade Centre was not on a flight path for obvious reasons!

southy, redbridge says...
11:15am Wed 27 Aug 08

millbrook towers is 25 storys high and that is leaning

Tut tut, says...
11:19am Wed 27 Aug 08

lol...how is it a gateway? It is an ugly block of flats, end of. Do they think we are stupid enough to be duped by the cynical technique of trying to dress up a block of flats as some sort of gateway? Having said that, developers probably know the decision makers ARE that stupid.

Re the 9/11 comment, if they filled the flats with pikey scum then a 9/11 wouldn't be too bad I guess. ;-) Joke by the way...wonder how long this post will last

Scaremonger Bob, says...
11:24am Wed 27 Aug 08

The fact it is on a flighpath is irrelevant - the World Trade Centre was not on a flight path for obvious reasons!


Exactly, Fred! Willy doesn't like the idea of a tower block for whatever reason, but I reckon he's clutching at straws here, working backwards from his endpoint and figuring out possible reasons for getting there on the way. Evoke the old "9/11" fear, and everyone jumps on board! It works for governments, I guess, civilians were bound to cotton on sooner or later.

All tall buildings are potential terrorist targets. Does that mean we shouldn't build them? Does it mean the terrorists will simply give up? Will Willy be crying "we could have another 7/7 on our hands!" when a new bus service is introduced?

Andy, Locks Heath says...
11:33am Wed 27 Aug 08

Wewullywinky wrote:
Obviosuly Southampton is expecting an infulx of immagrants and victims of recession and need yet another block of flats to house them.

What is it with this city council and tall buildings scaring our city. Do they have a tall building fetish at the moment.

As ospreysaint says a building of this size on the flight path of 02 is not sensible, just leaves it open for another 9/11
Scaremonger Bob is quite right - your argument suggests that no building anywhere in the world should be over a moderate tenament height. What about all those already built? There must be a dozen of these "terrorist death traps" around Southampton! Shall we demolish Weston Towers tomorrow? They are justas much under the flight path as this one! Should we shut down the rail network permanently in case of another Madrid, CLose down all our bus routes, or abandon all football matches in case of another Heysel? I suspect though that like Bob suspects you are just using 9/11 as a Nimby excuse because for some bizarre reason you just don't want to see any progress or development. So let's just leave it as a rat infested bombsite then. Happy now?

Soton Resident, says...
11:45am Wed 27 Aug 08

Andy wrote:
Wewullywinky wrote: Obviosuly Southampton is expecting an infulx of immagrants and victims of recession and need yet another block of flats to house them. What is it with this city council and tall buildings scaring our city. Do they have a tall building fetish at the moment. As ospreysaint says a building of this size on the flight path of 02 is not sensible, just leaves it open for another 9/11
Scaremonger Bob is quite right - your argument suggests that no building anywhere in the world should be over a moderate tenament height. What about all those already built? There must be a dozen of these "terrorist death traps" around Southampton! Shall we demolish Weston Towers tomorrow? They are justas much under the flight path as this one! Should we shut down the rail network permanently in case of another Madrid, CLose down all our bus routes, or abandon all football matches in case of another Heysel? I suspect though that like Bob suspects you are just using 9/11 as a Nimby excuse because for some bizarre reason you just don't want to see any progress or development. So let's just leave it as a rat infested bombsite then. Happy now?
It's going to be rat infested anyway with drugies, social loosers etc etc.

kebab man, saterday bannana says...
12:05pm Wed 27 Aug 08

I think it will be lovely and a great thing to see on your way to work if you are lucky enough to drive past it

Fed up, Southampton says...
12:19pm Wed 27 Aug 08

Describe by the developers as the "Eastern Gateway" more like the Eastern Carbunkle. Still more places to dump that old car and pushchair. The Council must be rubbing their hands with all that extra revenue and no services to provide as usual.The police will have a job on their hands with all the extra families. And to think someone wanted to put the ice rink on this site.

Fred, says...
12:27pm Wed 27 Aug 08

Andy wrote:
Wewullywinky wrote: Obviosuly Southampton is expecting an infulx of immagrants and victims of recession and need yet another block of flats to house them. What is it with this city council and tall buildings scaring our city. Do they have a tall building fetish at the moment. As ospreysaint says a building of this size on the flight path of 02 is not sensible, just leaves it open for another 9/11
Scaremonger Bob is quite right - your argument suggests that no building anywhere in the world should be over a moderate tenament height. What about all those already built? There must be a dozen of these "terrorist death traps" around Southampton! Shall we demolish Weston Towers tomorrow? They are justas much under the flight path as this one! Should we shut down the rail network permanently in case of another Madrid, CLose down all our bus routes, or abandon all football matches in case of another Heysel? I suspect though that like Bob suspects you are just using 9/11 as a Nimby excuse because for some bizarre reason you just don't want to see any progress or development. So let's just leave it as a rat infested bombsite then. Happy now?
Anyone who remembers the IRA's bombing campaigns in the UK will know that the governmental response at the time, whilst often hugely overblown in its treatment of Irish people, was essentially to ensure "business as usual" for as many people as possible.

Since 9/11 the US, and by extension the UK because we now apparently take the lead from them in this area, have operated quite the opposite policy, and it is a disaster. They and we now jump at the slightest squeak, talk up every threat, and promote the idea that if one terrorist attack is prevented then this policy is justified.

No, it isn't.

We need to say to anyone who wants to change us via terrorism that while we will do our best to stop them, we will not change our lives to achieve that. We need to say that you can continue to blow us up, but you will not change our minds. We need to tell them that they will not make us run scared by threat alone. To make a difference they will have to penetrate our defences every time. A threat, or a failed attempt, should have no impact on our lives.

It seems cliched and obvious to say it, but terrorists win when we react to them, in any way. Yes we should continue to act to prevent acts of terror when we discover them; but we must get far better at facing down the threat, telling and showing them that we are not scared of them, and that we will not capitulate.

Otherwise we have already lost.

Condor Man, Southampton says...
12:29pm Wed 27 Aug 08

It's only at the planning stage, a lot can happen between now and when it might actually be built. That area suffers congestion enough due to the level crossing so adding more people into the mix will only make matters worse. The site would have been better used as an industrial estate.

carrots mccoy, says...
12:37pm Wed 27 Aug 08

Another excellent post, Fred. Nice one

goard, Eastern Gateway says...
12:38pm Wed 27 Aug 08

From Hythe I saw the eternal block of flats - faceless, unimaginable memory of desperateness, which has gone on for many years and no one could honestly say 'WHAT A GATEWAY'and to add another high rise block of flats (as with Redbridge) we all look upon it as a desperate attempt to house the homeless - they deserve a bit of greenery and pride in their surroundings instead of a concrete jungle. Are you all attempting to cage animals - they are HUMANS and deserve better.

goard

ann robinson, southampton says...
12:56pm Wed 27 Aug 08

why do we need yet another huge block of flats. are our council obcessed with these buildings. There are numerous flats around the city unoccupied. it is not a wow factor just another tall building. How about some social housing/houses with gardens that are so desparately needed?

Anon, Southampton says...
1:01pm Wed 27 Aug 08

Great... More flats!

*sigh*

SJ, Woolston says...
1:04pm Wed 27 Aug 08

This shouldnt be allowed, its the councils way of getting more money from the council tax...think how much they will be getting from 500 flats instead of a few lovely houses...our council is an outrage...they take and put it in their own pockets forget about us small people who have to pay the taxes...or are they thinking of putting council tenants in!!!!!

Mr E, Eastleigh says...
1:06pm Wed 27 Aug 08

I bet nobody involved in the design and planning of this is planning on living there.


ken, stubbington says...
1:06pm Wed 27 Aug 08

Nice comment Kebab man, good to see you are cleaning up your act. I think I quite like you now. You are a good bloke well done.

Red Rooster, Bitterne says...
1:06pm Wed 27 Aug 08

Speaking as a youngish singleton, I've got no problem with this development. What I do have a problem with is the Conservatives campaigning on a promise of more family housing and then OK'ing developments like this which are clearly the complete opposite.

George, Soton says...
1:10pm Wed 27 Aug 08

Now, I don't know what the parking allocation is for this site but isn't Northam bridge quite busy at rush hour already?

Whilst it's great to assume that being on a bus route is the answer, the reality will be different.

Mental Mickey, Tatchbury says...
1:13pm Wed 27 Aug 08

ken wrote:
Nice comment Kebab man, good to see you are cleaning up your act. I think I quite like you now. You are a good bloke well done.
You're one and the same person.

dangerousMike, creeping up the backstairs says...
1:16pm Wed 27 Aug 08

Hope they do build it and many more like it. I now see that the council is determined to turn southampton into the armpit of England so i for one plan on leaving at the earliest possible opportunity.

dave, Millbrook says...
1:25pm Wed 27 Aug 08

More flats that noone wants.And the developer will probably go bankrupt half way through the job so we'll be left with another eyesore like Ocean Village!

kebab man, tin pot says...
1:29pm Wed 27 Aug 08

Metal mike think kebab man someone else he wrong kebab man good turkey towmn man strong with two wife......he not no ken man englee man with small bit and weak

Sotonian, Southampton says...
1:32pm Wed 27 Aug 08

Oh thats all we need another tower block!

k, says...
1:32pm Wed 27 Aug 08

kebab man wrote:
Metal mike think kebab man someone else he wrong kebab man good turkey towmn man strong with two wife......he not no ken man englee man with small bit and weak
TROLL Do not respond to this idiot.

kebab man, on my own says...
1:36pm Wed 27 Aug 08

k wrote:
kebab man wrote: Metal mike think kebab man someone else he wrong kebab man good turkey towmn man strong with two wife......he not no ken man englee man with small bit and weak
TROLL Do not respond to this idiot.
like you just did ha ha kebab man no idiot..why you cant make post without be nasty.........you not grown up

Coast To Coast, The Southern Television Archive says...
1:40pm Wed 27 Aug 08

Trevor the Weather wrote:
They could call it Dineage Towers , paint it orange and put a thatched roof on it.
Hats off to you Trevor - best post on this thread by a mile :0)

kebab man, dineage towers says...
1:45pm Wed 27 Aug 08

yeah he really funny.....make me laugh top postage mr trevor you good man make turkey man feel good and happy thanking you lots mate eh

Terry Johnson, Turning in my grave says...
1:53pm Wed 27 Aug 08

Perhaps it could be called "The Regal Towers" or "Tram Terminus View"

Terry Johnson, Turning in my Grave says...
1:56pm Wed 27 Aug 08

Perhaps it could be called "Regal Towers" or "Tram Terminus View"

Ian Scrivins, 6 ft under says...
1:59pm Wed 27 Aug 08

So good I named it twice

sainth, southampton says...
2:08pm Wed 27 Aug 08

looks just like the tower block on the other side of the road. bloody awful, build an ice rink there or some other leisure venus. Southampton does not need more flats. Oh and it will be a problem for flights for runway 02. the flats are approx 300 ft high and the planes at the distance from 02 will be at approx 500ft. not much too spare.

ll, So'ton says...
2:19pm Wed 27 Aug 08

This will be a disaster unless they provide the infrastructure to support it. Things like doctors, shops, schools, etc etc. Being on one of the busiest main roads in the city doesn't bode well if they are thinking of families occupying the flats. Where will the kids play? How will they walk to school safely? Will the river be safely fenced off?
It's all very well saying that we need housing but this really isn't the right site for it surely?
I hadn't really thought about it before now, but an ice rink wouldn't be such a bad idea for that site. Or maybe other leisure facilities. I don't think housing is the answer there though.

I shRINK, Hostel for down & outs says...
2:31pm Wed 27 Aug 08

A vertical Ice Rink maybe!

Graham, southampton says...
2:39pm Wed 27 Aug 08

goard wrote:
From Hythe I saw the eternal block of flats - faceless, unimaginable memory of desperateness, which has gone on for many years and no one could honestly say 'WHAT A GATEWAY'and to add another high rise block of flats (as with Redbridge) we all look upon it as a desperate attempt to house the homeless - they deserve a bit of greenery and pride in their surroundings instead of a concrete jungle. Are you all attempting to cage animals - they are HUMANS and deserve better. goard
Deserve? How so?

Robert, Highfield says...
3:17pm Wed 27 Aug 08

If Oakdene Homes try to build this before 2011 they'll go bust.

clair, Tower block says...
3:57pm Wed 27 Aug 08

Sadly Kebab is a moron - but we can live without his sad life - he sees the funny side of life - great if you are a 'not fit for purpose' human - just a Saddo who could not contruct a manual on how to cook pasta.

clair

Mike English, Soton says...
4:10pm Wed 27 Aug 08

All this talk of 9/11. Am i missing something? What happened on the 9th of November?

Jim Statetheobvious, says...
4:18pm Wed 27 Aug 08

Mike English wrote:
All this talk of 9/11. Am i missing something? What happened on the 9th of November?
A far-from-complete selection:

1620 - The Mayflower sights land at Cape Cod
1729 - The Treaty of Seville was signed
1861 - The first recorded Canadian Football match is played
1862 - Union General Ambrose Burnside assumes command of the Army of the Potomac during American Civil War
1872 - The Great Boston Fire
1887 - Pearl Harbour handed over to USA
1888 - Jack the Ripper kills his last known victim
1918 - Kaiser Wilhelm II of Germany abdicates after the German Revolution
1921 - Albert Einstein is awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics
1938 - Kristallnacht, Nazi Germany's first large-scale physical act of anti-Jewish violence, begins.
1953 - Cambodia becomes independent from France.
1967 - Apollo program: NASA launches the unmanned Apollo 4 test spacecraft
1967 - First issue of Rolling Stone Magazine is published.
1989 - Fall of the Berlin Wall.
1998 - Capital punishment in the United Kingdom, already abolished for murder, is completely abolished for all remaining capital offences

It's also the birthdays of Jill Dando, Chris Jericho and Tony Slattery, amongst others, and the anniversary of the death of Neville Chamberlain.

Christoff, says...
4:49pm Wed 27 Aug 08

Jim Statetheobvious wrote:
Mike English wrote: All this talk of 9/11. Am i missing something? What happened on the 9th of November?
A far-from-complete selection: 1620 - The Mayflower sights land at Cape Cod 1729 - The Treaty of Seville was signed 1861 - The first recorded Canadian Football match is played 1862 - Union General Ambrose Burnside assumes command of the Army of the Potomac during American Civil War 1872 - The Great Boston Fire 1887 - Pearl Harbour handed over to USA 1888 - Jack the Ripper kills his last known victim 1918 - Kaiser Wilhelm II of Germany abdicates after the German Revolution 1921 - Albert Einstein is awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics 1938 - Kristallnacht, Nazi Germany's first large-scale physical act of anti-Jewish violence, begins. 1953 - Cambodia becomes independent from France. 1967 - Apollo program: NASA launches the unmanned Apollo 4 test spacecraft 1967 - First issue of Rolling Stone Magazine is published. 1989 - Fall of the Berlin Wall. 1998 - Capital punishment in the United Kingdom, already abolished for murder, is completely abolished for all remaining capital offences It's also the birthdays of Jill Dando, Chris Jericho and Tony Slattery, amongst others, and the anniversary of the death of Neville Chamberlain.
love it

Simply Red, Woolston says...
4:51pm Wed 27 Aug 08

Wewullywinky wrote:
Obviosuly Southampton is expecting an infulx of immagrants and victims of recession and need yet another block of flats to house them. What is it with this city council and tall buildings scaring our city. Do they have a tall building fetish at the moment. As ospreysaint says a building of this size on the flight path of 02 is not sensible, just leaves it open for another 9/11
If this building is on the flight path, then it should be pretty safe. The 9/11 incident did not happen on a flight of either of New York's airports, the terrorists had to divert from the flight path.

Scared By New Building, says...
5:00pm Wed 27 Aug 08

AHHHH NOOOO there going to build something in Southampton again. WHY do this to us again, all we want is to keep are lovely blot on the landscape, everyone enjoys watching an old building riot and get vandalised. Its Woolston all over again how dare the city council build on are wonderful brown field sites. Oh and this new West Quay thing as well good this city going downhill.

Anon, Soton says...
5:13pm Wed 27 Aug 08

Why not try and attract some well known corporations to the city to fill such landmark buildings and create high calibre jobs. Surely just filling the city with flats will mean more people than jobs.

Barry George, happily free says...
5:28pm Wed 27 Aug 08

Jim Statetheobvious wrote:
Mike English wrote: All this talk of 9/11. Am i missing something? What happened on the 9th of November?
A far-from-complete selection: 1620 - The Mayflower sights land at Cape Cod 1729 - The Treaty of Seville was signed 1861 - The first recorded Canadian Football match is played 1862 - Union General Ambrose Burnside assumes command of the Army of the Potomac during American Civil War 1872 - The Great Boston Fire 1887 - Pearl Harbour handed over to USA 1888 - Jack the Ripper kills his last known victim 1918 - Kaiser Wilhelm II of Germany abdicates after the German Revolution 1921 - Albert Einstein is awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics 1938 - Kristallnacht, Nazi Germany's first large-scale physical act of anti-Jewish violence, begins. 1953 - Cambodia becomes independent from France. 1967 - Apollo program: NASA launches the unmanned Apollo 4 test spacecraft 1967 - First issue of Rolling Stone Magazine is published. 1989 - Fall of the Berlin Wall. 1998 - Capital punishment in the United Kingdom, already abolished for murder, is completely abolished for all remaining capital offences It's also the birthdays of Jill Dando, Chris Jericho and Tony Slattery, amongst others, and the anniversary of the death of Neville Chamberlain.
Will Jill Dando be doing anything for her birthday this year?

Counting the money already, Ground floor says...
5:30pm Wed 27 Aug 08

Can I put a bid in for the Tesco Express franchise on the bottom floor please?

Jim Statetheobvious, says...
5:36pm Wed 27 Aug 08

Barry George wrote:
Jim Statetheobvious wrote:
Mike English wrote: All this talk of 9/11. Am i missing something? What happened on the 9th of November?
A far-from-complete selection: 1620 - The Mayflower sights land at Cape Cod 1729 - The Treaty of Seville was signed 1861 - The first recorded Canadian Football match is played 1862 - Union General Ambrose Burnside assumes command of the Army of the Potomac during American Civil War 1872 - The Great Boston Fire 1887 - Pearl Harbour handed over to USA 1888 - Jack the Ripper kills his last known victim 1918 - Kaiser Wilhelm II of Germany abdicates after the German Revolution 1921 - Albert Einstein is awarded the Nobel Prize in Physics 1938 - Kristallnacht, Nazi Germany's first large-scale physical act of anti-Jewish violence, begins. 1953 - Cambodia becomes independent from France. 1967 - Apollo program: NASA launches the unmanned Apollo 4 test spacecraft 1967 - First issue of Rolling Stone Magazine is published. 1989 - Fall of the Berlin Wall. 1998 - Capital punishment in the United Kingdom, already abolished for murder, is completely abolished for all remaining capital offences It's also the birthdays of Jill Dando, Chris Jericho and Tony Slattery, amongst others, and the anniversary of the death of Neville Chamberlain.
Will Jill Dando be doing anything for her birthday this year?
Nope.

D'you reckon she got called "Jan D1ldo" a lot at school?

hoo flung dung, soton says...
5:44pm Wed 27 Aug 08

I like it, it'll be just to the right of the airport flight path!

Also in the interests of competition it'll be good to give the Itchen bridge 'jumpers' a choice!

Dave, Dibden says...
6:05pm Wed 27 Aug 08

If you look on the Southampton city web site there is a planning application make by Barrats that was withdrawn.
The reason being that they had test borings made on the site and found that the ground would not take a building more than 6 stories high.So 27 stories will sink in the mud and produce underground car parks

too true, says...
7:38pm Wed 27 Aug 08

Dave wrote:
If you look on the Southampton city web site there is a planning application make by Barrats that was withdrawn.
The reason being that they had test borings made on the site and found that the ground would not take a building more than 6 stories high.So 27 stories will sink in the mud and produce underground car parks
well it certainly is boring, test or not