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10:34am Friday 29th August 2008
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THE final hurdle has been cleared for the return of a temporary Christmas ice rink to Southampton.
Council planners yesterday gave the go ahead to transform the forecourt of the Civic Centre into a winter wonderland.
Cousins Entertainment (CE), set up by 1980 Olympic gold medallist Robin Cousins, won permission to build the temporary ice rink, announced earlier this year.
CE operations director Alan Abretti, a former British champion, said 50,000 people were expected to take to the ice.
The 20m by 30m rink, which will be run commercially by CE, will have enough room for 200 skaters at any one time.
It will be open from November 21 until January 11, excluding Christmas Day.
Advance tickets, up to £8.50 for adults, £6.50 for children, students, and concessions, and £28 for families for an hour session, go on sale from Monday.
The Civic Centre car park will close and alternative parking options will be made for visitors.
A previous temporary Christmas rink in 2006 at the Guildhall, pictured above, attracted more than 16,000 skaters but made a £60,000 loss for the council because of poor planning and sponsorship.
Gilmore, Shirley, Southampton says...
11:36am Fri 29 Aug 08
southy wrote:Oh, that's guaranteed bro! And if the Council get any inkling that CE will lose money, they'll scrap any further attempt to generate commercial interest in building a permanent rink due to perceived lack of interest. Our spineless Tory Council in action.
numbers will be counted that use it
southy, redbridge says...
11:42am Fri 29 Aug 08
Dr Alimantado, says...
11:52am Fri 29 Aug 08
southy wrote:well why don't you make an exception and get in there to show your support.
if the figures are right for the last one 16,000 skaters that would more than enough to do it.only problem is if its built in the center of southampton alot of people will avoid it.people like my self,i dont even do my shopping in the center southampton let alone my entertainment and only go into the center only when there is no choice else where
George, says...
12:06pm Fri 29 Aug 08
southy wrote:Of course they will! And the figures will still be virtually meaningless, because they have no bearing on how many of those people would use an ice rink at any other time of the year. I suggest you, or BRICK, or someone, gets down there and runs an exit poll on how many people would like to make use of a permanent rink, rather than just sit back and quote the figure as God-given evidence that everyone that skated at Christmas is a complete ice nut who wouldn't be able to stay away
numbers will be counted that use it
Gilmore, Shirley, Southampton says...
12:12pm Fri 29 Aug 08
southy, redbridge says...
12:27pm Fri 29 Aug 08
Dr Alimantado wrote:i use to like going into town once that was before the councils destoryed it,by having only what they wanted and not what the people wanted
southy wrote:well why don\'t you make an exception and get in there to show your support.
if the figures are right for the last one 16,000 skaters that would more than enough to do it.only problem is if its built in the center of southampton alot of people will avoid it.people like my self,i dont even do my shopping in the center southampton let alone my entertainment and only go into the center only when there is no choice else where
There is no bogeyman in town you know, you will be quite safe....well, not if you listen to statistics but hey ho.
Get in there Southy, you obviously have a keen interest in this skating malarky
George, says...
12:36pm Fri 29 Aug 08
i use to like going into town once that was before the councils destoryed it,by having only what they wanted and not what the people wanted
southy, redbridge says...
12:52pm Fri 29 Aug 08
Dr Alimantado, says...
1:03pm Fri 29 Aug 08
southy wrote:sounds like you need to get out of the library a little more often
if i am in the library i might pop round to have a go.
southy, redbridge says...
1:39pm Fri 29 Aug 08
Dr Alimantado wrote:library,s are the best starting source for info and is more reliable and would have less errors in info and i only there about once a mth
southy wrote:sounds like you need to get out of the library a little more often
if i am in the library i might pop round to have a go.
Ian Hoolihan, says...
1:48pm Fri 29 Aug 08
southy wrote:Southy, don't take this an an insult but you are a very strange yet interesting man.
Dr Alimantado wrote:library,s are the best starting source for info and is more reliable and would have less errors in info and i only there about once a mthsouthy wrote: if i am in the library i might pop round to have a go.sounds like you need to get out of the library a little more often
Fed up, Home says...
1:51pm Fri 29 Aug 08
THE BRICK, @THE ICE RINK says...
1:54pm Fri 29 Aug 08
Dragon, Den says...
2:10pm Fri 29 Aug 08
southy, redbridge says...
2:26pm Fri 29 Aug 08
Ian Hoolihan wrote:only keep with in topics i know about Ian Hoolihan,i just dont like how the city center and the main part of town is like now days they have destoryed it, it no longer than that friendly looking place that it had once.i much prefere to go to totton or salisbury to do my shopping or get any thing else i need,one of the only good things in the city it has a half reasonable library
southy wrote:Southy, don\\\'t take this an an insult but you are a very strange yet interesting man.
Dr Alimantado wrote:library,s are the best starting source for info and is more reliable and would have less errors in info and i only there about once a mthsouthy wrote: if i am in the library i might pop round to have a go.sounds like you need to get out of the library a little more often
You bang on about every topic as though it is part of your soul, obviously researching things extensively and getting a lot of needless info and facts. But when action is required, such as the ice rink, you seem to be terrified of going anywhere other than your house or library.
What\\\'s that all about?
Of course, you don\\\'t have to say or justify, but I would love to hear
southy, redbridge says...
2:28pm Fri 29 Aug 08
Ian Hoolihan, says...
2:33pm Fri 29 Aug 08
southy wrote:ok, I was beginning to think you were a recluse. Knowledge is power and all that but it doesn't mean jack if you sit on your @rse all day talking and not doing.
Ian Hoolihan wrote:only keep with in topics i know about Ian Hoolihan,i just dont like how the city center and the main part of town is like now days they have destoryed it, it no longer than that friendly looking place that it had once.i much prefere to go to totton or salisbury to do my shopping or get any thing else i need,one of the only good things in the city it has a half reasonable librarysouthy wrote:Southy, don\\\'t take this an an insult but you are a very strange yet interesting man. You bang on about every topic as though it is part of your soul, obviously researching things extensively and getting a lot of needless info and facts. But when action is required, such as the ice rink, you seem to be terrified of going anywhere other than your house or library. What\\\'s that all about? Of course, you don\\\'t have to say or justify, but I would love to hearDr Alimantado wrote:library,s are the best starting source for info and is more reliable and would have less errors in info and i only there about once a mthsouthy wrote: if i am in the library i might pop round to have a go.sounds like you need to get out of the library a little more often
southy, redbridge says...
2:49pm Fri 29 Aug 08
Ken Tucky, the crossroads says...
3:29pm Fri 29 Aug 08
southy, redbridge says...
3:34pm Fri 29 Aug 08
Ken Tucky wrote:no council tax involed
NOBODY will use it. waster of my council tax. fools
THE BRICK, @THE ICE RINK says...
4:43pm Fri 29 Aug 08
Fed up wrote:Going to Basingstoke tonight to celebrate the Xmas ice rink that I will be using as much as I can. taxpayers money is not being used whatsoever, that used for other things like the development of pubs, bars and drinking clubs in the city centre.
I see that the one in 2006 LOST £60,000. Well iam sick to death of these Councils spending my money on ice rinks temporary or otherwise. Its simple if you want to skate, great, go to Basingstoke or Gosport but dont keep expecting the tax payers of Southampton to keep puting their hands in their pockets to bank roll mnority sports like this. I am Fed up with it. To fund the £60,000 loss two years ago that probably deprived some childrens or Seniors home a part of their care. YOU WANT IT, YOU PAY FOR IT
southy, redbridge says...
5:45pm Fri 29 Aug 08
Quite frankly...., Orbiting Planet Idiot says...
11:00pm Fri 29 Aug 08
southy, redbridge says...
11:39pm Fri 29 Aug 08
Quite frankly...., Orbiting Planet Idiot says...
11:46pm Fri 29 Aug 08
southy, redbridge says...
12:43am Sat 30 Aug 08
Quite frankly.... wrote:your right there,greed blinds them.charge more get less people,charge less and get more people
Good call southy, but that does not wash in a capitalist economy, to be fair.
southy, westy, easty, northy, any way the wind blows up the kyber pass while lancing a boil on the left buttock, says...
2:43am Sat 30 Aug 08
Ian Hoolihan wrote:Weird is my preferred description. I am happy to throw insults around . . . . . this guy is an intelectual cripple and likely a physical one too, hence he does not get out a lot. An Armchair Critic. An Armchair Socialist. An Armchair Pontificator. We should set up a campaign to get him one of those snazzy recliners with a massage built-in and electric switch to move the footrest up and down, so he can concentrate, without distraction or unecessary effort, on the critical stuff, like BORING everybody fart-less.
southy wrote:Southy, don't take this an an insult but you are a very strange yet interesting man.
Dr Alimantado wrote:library,s are the best starting source for info and is more reliable and would have less errors in info and i only there about once a mthsouthy wrote: if i am in the library i might pop round to have a go.sounds like you need to get out of the library a little more often
You bang on about every topic as though it is part of your soul, obviously researching things extensively and getting a lot of needless info and facts. But when action is required, such as the ice rink, you seem to be terrified of going anywhere other than your house or library.
What's that all about?
Of course, you don't have to say or justify, but I would love to hear
Cheapskate, says...
3:21am Sat 30 Aug 08
THE BRICK wrote:Ah! Basingstoke!
Fed up wrote:Going to Basingstoke tonight to celebrate the Xmas ice rink that I will be using as much as I can. taxpayers money is not being used whatsoever, that used for other things like the development of pubs, bars and drinking clubs in the city centre.
I see that the one in 2006 LOST £60,000. Well iam sick to death of these Councils spending my money on ice rinks temporary or otherwise. Its simple if you want to skate, great, go to Basingstoke or Gosport but dont keep expecting the tax payers of Southampton to keep puting their hands in their pockets to bank roll mnority sports like this. I am Fed up with it. To fund the £60,000 loss two years ago that probably deprived some childrens or Seniors home a part of their care. YOU WANT IT, YOU PAY FOR IT
southy, redbridge says...
1:48pm Sat 30 Aug 08
George, says...
3:33pm Sat 30 Aug 08
THE BRICK wrote:You'll have to catch me first :-) get yer skates on!
Yikes, thats just outside my office window, I'll have to put my skates on in the office and get out there on the twelfth and spray stop George!!! LOL
southy, redbridge says...
3:42pm Sat 30 Aug 08
KL, Southampton says...
1:51am Sun 31 Aug 08
Curious Too, says...
4:18am Sun 31 Aug 08
KL wrote:Yeah.
I'm curious about Southy too. You would think that in all his many hours of reading, researching, and learning at the library, and at home on the internet, that he might have picked up at least the basics of spelling, punctuation and grammar.
southy, redbridge says...
11:59am Sun 31 Aug 08
KL wrote:semi retired so i do some thing to keep me busy,i use to work out into the field most of the time,and traveled the world a lot, it was rare to see me sit behide an office desk,i employed one person to do that for me.
I'm curious about Southy too. You would think that in all his many hours of reading, researching, and learning at the library, and at home on the internet, that he might have picked up at least the basics of spelling, punctuation and grammar.
George, says...
12:37pm Sun 31 Aug 08
This superiority is offensive and condescending to all other contributors.
southy, redbridge says...
2:05pm Sun 31 Aug 08
last, says...
6:06pm Sun 31 Aug 08
southy wrote:word
take no notice of them goerge,northy and co dont like to be proven wrong,and when you do prove they are wrong they get very offensive.
this might be due to when they was a baby there mum was trying to ween them of the dummy at the age of 5 when she should off never let them have a dummy you know the sort of kid the ones that throw a tamtrum in the shops or street when mummy said no
George, says...
6:12pm Sun 31 Aug 08
southy wrote:All well and good, Southy, but where has anyone been proven wrong??
take no notice of them goerge,northy and co dont like to be proven wrong,and when you do prove they are wrong they get very offensive.
this might be due to when they was a baby there mum was trying to ween them of the dummy at the age of 5 when she should off never let them have a dummy you know the sort of kid the ones that throw a tamtrum in the shops or street when mummy said no
southy, redbridge says...
6:44pm Sun 31 Aug 08
George, says...
6:47pm Sun 31 Aug 08
southy wrote:Exactly. So, this "proving wrong" thing, then....
not in the ice rinks items goerge.the only time when this is proven right or wrong will be when they build it and see what happens.
southy, redbridge says...
7:18pm Sun 31 Aug 08
George, says...
7:27pm Sun 31 Aug 08
southy wrote:Oh right, that old chestnut!
go's back a long while now,was about an item on the docks,they been following me around ever since
southy, redbridge says...
7:50pm Sun 31 Aug 08
Admissions Officer, RSH says...
8:43pm Sun 31 Aug 08
southy wrote:"They"?
go's back a long while now,was about an item on the docks,they been following me around ever since
live local, southampton says...
9:03pm Sun 31 Aug 08
southy wrote:You claim to support the ice rink but will only use it if it is built near Redbridge.
enjoy your self brick i am off to tower park myself going to have a nice swimming in that nice warm water pool they got down there in the fittness center
southy, redbridge says...
10:48pm Sun 31 Aug 08
You claim to support the ice rink but will only use it if it is built near RedbridgeStop putting words into my mouth i did not say that,i said i not use the temp rink this winter,unless i am in the library i might pop round.
Then say you would rather go to Tower park... Is that the one with the ice rink you go to. Please find the ice rink that you tell us is therefor you to belive you need to go there your self or are you to lazy to get out of that chair and look for places.
Plus I still want to know how The closed rink at richmond made 4 million from an ice show.you are saying 4 million on a ice show i did't.i said the company that ran richmond ice rink is still making a profit they are still reg has a business.and are more than likey mading money though the banks till the day when they get a new ice rink.
Finally you secret news from your M8 (mate) at Costains saying they are going to build 10 ice rinks. How about some referenceagain you are trying to put words in my mouth now watch the lips I said costains might be putting in a bid to build the 10 new ice rinks in the uk they are not the planner nore the developer they might be the builder if they win the bid or bids.dont you know how the construction industry works.and if i was you i would get new m8's that know how the construction industry works.there would be planning enquiries, public consultation,only if there is objections to the 3 public notice.
also local, says...
12:05am Mon 1 Sep 08
live local, southampton says...
2:10am Mon 1 Sep 08
southy wrote:Posted by: southy, redbridge on 11:11pm Sun 24 Aug 08 live local, southampton where was last year's world figure ice skating champions ships held the uk leg.this championship use to earn richmond millions of £ in revenue over the 4 weeks it use to take place,the final part that is on tv was the biggest earner
live local saidYou claim to support the ice rink but will only use it if it is built near RedbridgeStop putting words into my mouth i did not say that,i said i not use the temp rink this winter,unless i am in the library i might pop round.Then say you would rather go to Tower park... Is that the one with the ice rink you go to. Please find the ice rink that you tell us is therefor you to belive you need to go there your self or are you to lazy to get out of that chair and look for places.Plus I still want to know how The closed rink at richmond made 4 million from an ice show.you are saying 4 million on a ice show i did\'t.i said the company that ran richmond ice rink is still making a profit they are still reg has a business.and are more than likey mading money though the banks till the day when they get a new ice rink.Finally you secret news from your M8 (mate) at Costains saying they are going to build 10 ice rinks. How about some referenceagain you are trying to put words in my mouth now watch the lips I said costains might be putting in a bid to build the 10 new ice rinks in the uk they are not the planner nore the developer they might be the builder if they win the bid or bids.dont you know how the construction industry works.and if i was you i would get new m8\'s that know how the construction industry works.there would be planning enquiries, public consultation,only if there is objections to the 3 public notice. a little foot note for you my m8 in costains was asking me if i had any spare riggers on my books,or know of any good erector riggers in the near future that will be available.theres going to be a shortage of them.due to a major project that coming up on the south coast some where and is going to take 3 to 5 years to do.
southy wrote: live local we only see the final part on tv, the pairs,women singles,men singles. freestyle and complusery what we dont see is the judging for points where the judges go on to the ice with skaters and look at the tracks in the ice when the skaters are ask to do movements like figure of 8 toe loops ectDear Southy I am well aware that there is more to judging than the bit we see on TV, but the question was how did they manage this at Richmond ice rink? As the ice rink was closed in 1987 Can you also clarify why you are still referring to the ice rink at Tower Park Poole which is also closed? If you are going to give reference to other facilities it is rather important to make sure you are correct or people will think you are silly!
George, says...
8:22am Mon 1 Sep 08
for you to belive you need to go there your self or are you to lazy to get out of that chair and look for places.
southy, redbridge says...
12:34pm Mon 1 Sep 08
George, says...
12:55pm Mon 1 Sep 08
southy wrote:Ah, the old "the Internet is wrong" get-out.
its still there george,and the only way is to get your coat on and take drive down there.you can see it from the fittness center,whitch is where i go 1 mth for there warm swimming pool.weather if it was going to be closed down or closed for refrubishment that i cant tell you,but people who just quote from the internet is going to give out wrong info a lot of the time,thats why all web sites have disclamers for,old ibm saying rubbish in and rubbish out
George, says...
2:28pm Mon 1 Sep 08
southy, redbridge says...
2:56pm Mon 1 Sep 08
George, says...
3:17pm Mon 1 Sep 08
southy wrote:Sorry Southy, I'm not going on some fools errand because you're in denial. Unless there's some gateway to an alternative reality at that end of Poole, I'm doubtful it'll yield any new results. There is no ice rink there, it's been confirmed by a real, actual human being who is there, and in a position to know. Not some website you can dismiss as being "wrong" because it's on the Internet. An actual employee of the leisure facility in question. You're making stuff up, pure and simple, and even when caught out on this, you still persist. If there was a way to shake ones head in baffled pity over the
nope no silence from me
sorry you are right there it is garbage and not rubbish.but george drive down there and come in from the by pass end and not town end
southy, redbridge says...
11:19am Fri 29 Aug 08