Swimming pool and homes plan given go-ahead (From Daily Echo)

So where is the instrastructure to handle the added traffic Mr Woodward?? Ever tried driving through Park Gate, Swanwick, Segensworth roadabout at peak hours ?? No, you are sat quitely in your oasis at the back of Whiteley protected by them nice bollards keeping the nasty traffic away,

Corrupt!

toxteth o'grady wrote:
So where is the instrastructure to handle the added traffic Mr Woodward?? Ever tried driving through Park Gate, Swanwick, Segensworth roadabout at peak hours ?? No, you are sat quitely in your oasis at the back of Whiteley protected by them nice bollards keeping the nasty traffic away,

Corrupt!

Further proof of a Councillor who cares vey little or has any understanding of local issues, but is hell-bent on overpopulating the Western Wards.

Great news this will be just one of many new developments that will go ahead in the very near future, these houses are desperately needed but we have a long way to go to catch up with the lack of house building over the last few years.

27-room hotel with function facilities,
sports pitches, a community pavilion, allotments, a cemetery and a swimming pool.
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At least it will give the area a few more facilities than it already has especially with the leisure and recreational facilities.
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The houses are needed desperately...... even if there is a queue at the motorway

Lone Ranger. wrote:
27-room hotel with function facilities,
sports pitches, a community pavilion, allotments, a cemetery and a swimming pool.
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At least it will give the area a few more facilities than it already has especially with the leisure and recreational facilities.
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The houses are needed desperately...... even if there is a queue at the motorway

Very fair minded and objective comment by LR is no surprise. After all to be fair and objective are the fundamental principles of socialism (Or they used to be till likes of Blair Brown and Mandelson etc hijacked the good old Labour Party and under Tory Disraeli inspired Milliband has become unofficial right wing of Conservatives!!!)

As an old man I may not be well informed like some of the younger generation, I am sure somebody from NuLabour will correct me if I am wrong, because I don’t think Fareham Council is under the control of any left wingers like Southampton’s Councillors Don Thomas and Keith Morrell. Not only that but as far as I know there are not even many NuLabourites in Fareham area.

In all fairness as permanent resident defender of Milliband’s mob led by their Dear Leader Williams on this site I congratulate comrade Lone Ranger for endorsing Fareham Council’s decision by saying “it will give the area a few ‘more’ facilities”.

Pity LR and his other comrades neither on this site nor in the shape of self serving ego manic unfit for the purpose councillors in Southampton Council have matched up to the standards of even right wing controlled Fareham Council.

Rather than providing ‘more’ facilities (LR’s own words) in fact Southampton’s NuLabourites have not only closed even the existing leisure facility ‘Oaklands Swimming Pool’ but also thrown two decent socialist councillors out of Conservatised NuLabour because they opposed Oakland’s closure.

Paramjit Bahia wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote:
27-room hotel with function facilities,
sports pitches, a community pavilion, allotments, a cemetery and a swimming pool.
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At least it will give the area a few more facilities than it already has especially with the leisure and recreational facilities.
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The houses are needed desperately...... even if there is a queue at the motorway

Very fair minded and objective comment by LR is no surprise. After all to be fair and objective are the fundamental principles of socialism (Or they used to be till likes of Blair Brown and Mandelson etc hijacked the good old Labour Party and under Tory Disraeli inspired Milliband has become unofficial right wing of Conservatives!!!)

As an old man I may not be well informed like some of the younger generation, I am sure somebody from NuLabour will correct me if I am wrong, because I don’t think Fareham Council is under the control of any left wingers like Southampton’s Councillors Don Thomas and Keith Morrell. Not only that but as far as I know there are not even many NuLabourites in Fareham area.

In all fairness as permanent resident defender of Milliband’s mob led by their Dear Leader Williams on this site I congratulate comrade Lone Ranger for endorsing Fareham Council’s decision by saying “it will give the area a few ‘more’ facilities”.

Pity LR and his other comrades neither on this site nor in the shape of self serving ego manic unfit for the purpose councillors in Southampton Council have matched up to the standards of even right wing controlled Fareham Council.

Rather than providing ‘more’ facilities (LR’s own words) in fact Southampton’s NuLabourites have not only closed even the existing leisure facility ‘Oaklands Swimming Pool’ but also thrown two decent socialist councillors out of Conservatised NuLabour because they opposed Oakland’s closure.

I often agree and endorse your posts as they are sometimes informative and ocassionally interesting even though you are an "old man" (your words not mine).
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However, without the reading every single word of your post (often tedious and repitive) i understand the gist of it,
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Perhaps you may have failed to notice that the Oaklands pool that you refer to is money from the council.
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The money for the project in Coldeast is Private money.
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Now if we have Oaklands or any other pool built with Private money then thats fine.
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As regards the two Coucillors exercising their right to leave a Labour Council on a matter of principle .. Well thats their call ..... If thats what they are happy with then let them carry on. ........ Perhaps you will vote for them ...... or convince them to join the TUSC.
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Whichever way they go it will be tough come the next local election that effects their ward ......... Others have tried and failed.
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Paramjit Bahia wrote:

Lone Ranger. wrote: 27-room hotel with function facilities, sports pitches, a community pavilion, allotments, a cemetery and a swimming pool. . At least it will give the area a few more facilities than it already has especially with the leisure and recreational facilities. . The houses are needed desperately...... even if there is a queue at the motorway

Very fair minded and objective comment by LR is no surprise. After all to be fair and objective are the fundamental principles of socialism (Or they used to be till likes of Blair Brown and Mandelson etc hijacked the good old Labour Party and under Tory Disraeli inspired Milliband has become unofficial right wing of Conservatives!!!) As an old man I may not be well informed like some of the younger generation, I am sure somebody from NuLabour will correct me if I am wrong, because I don’t think Fareham Council is under the control of any left wingers like Southampton’s Councillors Don Thomas and Keith Morrell. Not only that but as far as I know there are not even many NuLabourites in Fareham area. In all fairness as permanent resident defender of Milliband’s mob led by their Dear Leader Williams on this site I congratulate comrade Lone Ranger for endorsing Fareham Council’s decision by saying “it will give the area a few ‘more’ facilities”. Pity LR and his other comrades neither on this site nor in the shape of self serving ego manic unfit for the purpose councillors in Southampton Council have matched up to the standards of even right wing controlled Fareham Council. Rather than providing ‘more’ facilities (LR’s own words) in fact Southampton’s NuLabourites have not only closed even the existing leisure facility ‘Oaklands Swimming Pool’ but also thrown two decent socialist councillors out of Conservatised NuLabour because they opposed Oakland’s closure.

you need to understand the difference between a private development (Miller Homes) and a council funded development.

With more and more immigrants coming into this country we need all the houses we can give them.

Lone Ranger,

Yes if Don and Keith decide to contest their seats, If I am still alive (Thanks to this Condem Coalition’s attacks upon Socialist Bevan’s baby NHS my generation’s life is bound to be cut short by few years) I will most certainly vote for them.
Although when Keith was NuLabour's candidate last time I did not vote for him but spoilt my paper, and Keith was aware why.

No I do not share your view that just because "Others have tried and failed" it cannot be done. Because Don has always worked very hard, so is rightly very popular in our ward and now for their principled decision of standing by their constituents both Don and Keith have become even more popular. So their succeeding could be possible.

But yes I accept that after leaving the well financed party with professional back up they have very difficult mountain to climb. End of the day as we are all aware it is the people who will decide.

No I have no intention of suggesting to Don and Keith which party or left Group should join. As these days I am not member of any party, but hang around with intelligent parts of environmental movement and with virtually all the socialist (including those still stranded within NuLabour) it will be wrong of me to start acting as recruiting officer for only one faction called TUSC. I wish they all join together, but I am not denying that mine could simply be a utopian dream.

As I have been saying for a while now, my biggest fear is how Don leaving NuLabour could end up damaging hard working and exceptionally intelligent Alan Whitehead's vote in parliamentary election. Any slippage in Labour vote in what used to be safe ward could become a big problem.

Finally, yes you are right to remind me that Fareham Council will not be paying for new swimming pool in their area. (After all they are Tories are they not?) But from the point of consumers, although through a developer they are going to provide some leisure facilities. Can we say the same of our Dear Leader led Council in Southampton? No I can’t.

I was the only resident who attended - mostly to ensure the promised bus bollard for Coldeast Way was retained (to stop the hundreds of homes & hotel/conference centre drivers - along with the hundreds sick of the jams in Brook Lane every rush hour - didn't suddenly get a nice short-cut).
After 2hrs of discussing the quality of views out of the 40bed care home and quite how 100 wedding guests + 27 hotel rooms AND 200+ conference centre drivers would cope with only 100 parking spaces (there is no opportunity to overflow - except to park around Admirals Wood) - there was zero discussion about the quality of the housing (great move by developer... put in the swimming pools and community facilities - the councillors don't even look into the 160+homes!).
Right at the end though... the two nearest ward councillors glibly said "I don't really see the need for a bus bollard... Coldeast Way has traffic lights after all". Thanks Councillors!!!!

...and having just seen the Fareham Council travelling roadshow for future policy... the Locks Heath Centre is not only going to see a new supermarket (looked x4-5 bigger than the CoOp who would be kicked out) and a drive-through McD or KFC.... but also a new swimming pool!
The policy people couldn't see the Coldeast site ever being considered therefore!!