New doubt over future of heart unit (From Daily Echo)

Cameron promised that the NHS would be safe in Tory hands.

In the past couple of years we have seen the difference between Tory Words and Tory Actions.

All Lies!

Privatise!

A review is not only a waste of public money its a clear indication of an up and coming U-turn by a coalition who does more U-turns than a driving instructor.

NHS safe in Tories hands, not on your nelly

Linesman wrote:
Cameron promised that the NHS would be safe in Tory hands.

In the past couple of years we have seen the difference between Tory Words and Tory Actions.

All Lies!

Privatise!

Is there anything this bunch of clowns we laughingly call a government won't do a U turn on, i hope that Linesman's comment about Privatisation was a sarcastic one because as far as i am concerned its privatisation thats got us into this bl**dy mess, what we need is Nationalisation to get some sanity back into our country.

Have they said why they're having another review?
has one of the units that's closing put forward a case to stay open?
I want to see the reason why this review is going to happen before I slag it off or say if I'm okay with it.
This article hasn't given enough information to decide if it's okay or if Hunt is out of order so why the attacks?

There is far too much political interference with the NHS. Every new government seems to implement reforms but all they succeed in doing is waste money.

It's time the NHS was removed from the political arena and placed in the hands of medical professionals. The sole role of politicians should be to fund the NHS through taxes.

Does this pathetic and incompetent government have any idea at all what it is doing.
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Hardly a day goes by without a U-Turn
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Hardly a day goes by without the Tories being shown as a complete laughing stock.
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Poor decisions from ministers and indeed diabolical mis judgements from a Prime Minister.
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Another diabolical waste of money ... anf yet this government blame others for continually higher borrowing

Just checked Health Service & three of the units up North that are closing have called for a judicial review & have said the case for closure was unfounded & Hunt has called for a review to check on all the decisions to make sure they were the right ones?
I think keeping Southamptons unit was the right one & as long as it was made correctly it should remain the right one shouldn't it?

Lone Ranger. wrote:
Does this pathetic and incompetent government have any idea at all what it is doing.
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Hardly a day goes by without a U-Turn
.
Hardly a day goes by without the Tories being shown as a complete laughing stock.
.
Poor decisions from ministers and indeed diabolical mis judgements from a Prime Minister.
.
Another diabolical waste of money ... anf yet this government blame others for continually higher borrowing

Read the NHS article

It doesn't look good, it does seem rather dodgy 3 months after the unit was told it was safe that another review is to be commissioned. I hope it stays open, a bit of a kick in the teeth for those who campaigned tirelessly the last time out.

Linesman wrote:
Cameron promised that the NHS would be safe in Tory hands.

In the past couple of years we have seen the difference between Tory Words and Tory Actions.

All Lies!

Privatise!

What did you do last time out to help then?

I hope at least you signed a petition and made a donation, or does ranting about it on a newspaper website count as your effort?

Fords are closing the transit plant in Southampton so this had best stay open for a little longer,

loosehead wrote:
Just checked Health Service & three of the units up North that are closing have called for a judicial review & have said the case for closure was unfounded & Hunt has called for a review to check on all the decisions to make sure they were the right ones?
I think keeping Southamptons unit was the right one & as long as it was made correctly it should remain the right one shouldn't it?

The whole point as you say is if they made the correct decision in the first place we should be ok, but if they were confident enough to make that decision in the first place they should be confident to stick by it. No unit is going to want to lose out so objections should have been anticipated when the original decisions were made, and any further reviews only go to show that the government were not confident in their original decision. Mrs Thatcher made some dreadful decisions but at least she had the balls to stick to them which is more than can be said for the bunch of fairy's we have in power now.

ohec wrote:

Linesman wrote:
Cameron promised that the NHS would be safe in Tory hands.

In the past couple of years we have seen the difference between Tory Words and Tory Actions.

All Lies!

Privatise!

Is there anything this bunch of clowns we laughingly call a government won't do a U turn on, i hope that Linesman's comment about Privatisation was a sarcastic one because as far as i am concerned its privatisation thats got us into this bl**dy mess, what we need is Nationalisation to get some sanity back into our country.

ohec. I can assure you, I was not suggesting that the NHS be privatised. I do not want a system, as has been in the case in America, where medics attending an accident feel for a wallet before they feel for a pulse.

Shoong wrote:

Linesman wrote:
Cameron promised that the NHS would be safe in Tory hands.

In the past couple of years we have seen the difference between Tory Words and Tory Actions.

All Lies!

Privatise!

What did you do last time out to help then?

I hope at least you signed a petition and made a donation, or does ranting about it on a newspaper website count as your effort?

Explain. As usual, your comment is difficult to understand.

Since this MP has been in government, everything that he has been involved with has turned to c**p. I think he is the one to be the partied sacroficial lamb. Just keep that smug face off the papers and let a decent MP do the job.

Linesman wrote:

Shoong wrote:

Linesman wrote:
Cameron promised that the NHS would be safe in Tory hands.

In the past couple of years we have seen the difference between Tory Words and Tory Actions.

All Lies!

Privatise!

What did you do last time out to help then?

I hope at least you signed a petition and made a donation, or does ranting about it on a newspaper website count as your effort?

Explain. As usual, your comment is difficult to understand.

Would you like a translator?

Did you sign the previous petition?

Did you make a donation to the cause?

Not sure I can put it any simple than that.

The problem with the Tories is all promises when wanting a seat then back tracks and cant deliver. I cannot understand why another review needs to take place more waste of money when it could be used for saving lives because that's the sole purpose of this unit

Listen to the local BBC news read the article & find out that three Northern Units that were shut have called for a judicial review & have put forward their cases to Jeremy Hunt.
This is not the Tories doing anything wrong but reviewing the way these decisions were made exactly what they're now doing with the rail franchises.
You could say this is the Northern Hospitals fault for being bad losers & no matter who the government was as Denham said they would have had to concentrate all heart units into a few larger ones so it's not political

Hunt is no pro NHS. They will do what they want regardless of what we want.

NHS is not safe in Labour's hands either. They are going to privatise it regardless who is in power and further more the welfare system will be dismantled.

There is no Labour Party any more. Blair and Brown changed it. It is merely a less right wing version of the Tories.

However don't go thinking your tax bill will go down it won't. It will be used to assist business.

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Not such a cunning stunt from Jeremy Hunt.

Shoong wrote:

Linesman wrote:

Shoong wrote:

Linesman wrote:
Cameron promised that the NHS would be safe in Tory hands.

In the past couple of years we have seen the difference between Tory Words and Tory Actions.

All Lies!

Privatise!

What did you do last time out to help then?

I hope at least you signed a petition and made a donation, or does ranting about it on a newspaper website count as your effort?

Explain. As usual, your comment is difficult to understand.

Would you like a translator?

Did you sign the previous petition?

Did you make a donation to the cause?

Not sure I can put it any simple than that.

I am unaware of any petition related to this subject, so it can be assumed that I did not sign it.

As I did not sign it, it must be assumed that I made no donation, whether in cash, suggestion, time or anything else.

If YOU know what form of words were used on this petition, perhaps you would let me know and then I can say for sure whether or not I signed.

loosehead wrote:
Listen to the local BBC news read the article & find out that three Northern Units that were shut have called for a judicial review & have put forward their cases to Jeremy Hunt.
This is not the Tories doing anything wrong but reviewing the way these decisions were made exactly what they're now doing with the rail franchises.
You could say this is the Northern Hospitals fault for being bad losers & no matter who the government was as Denham said they would have had to concentrate all heart units into a few larger ones so it's not political

"This is not the Tories doing anything wrong."

None so blind as those who do not wish to see.

Linesman wrote:

loosehead wrote:
Listen to the local BBC news read the article & find out that three Northern Units that were shut have called for a judicial review & have put forward their cases to Jeremy Hunt.
This is not the Tories doing anything wrong but reviewing the way these decisions were made exactly what they're now doing with the rail franchises.
You could say this is the Northern Hospitals fault for being bad losers & no matter who the government was as Denham said they would have had to concentrate all heart units into a few larger ones so it's not political

"This is not the Tories doing anything wrong."

None so blind as those who do not wish to see.

Instead of making this type of comment why not read the NHS article on this? why not listen to Denham? Why not listen to the BBC reporter who stated this was down to three Hospitals in the Leeds area who's units shut?
I read all these before I criticised Jeremy Hunt & after reading the NHS article listening to both the reporter & Denham I realised this wasn't started by the Tory Government & as long as the review was above board in the first place our unit should have nothing to fear.
Unless the BBC,NHS & john Denham are liars where do you & other posters get your ideas from?

Dresnez wrote:
Hunt is no pro NHS. They will do what they want regardless of what we want.

NHS is not safe in Labour's hands either. They are going to privatise it regardless who is in power and further more the welfare system will be dismantled.

There is no Labour Party any more. Blair and Brown changed it. It is merely a less right wing version of the Tories.

However don't go thinking your tax bill will go down it won't. It will be used to assist business.

http://www.michaelme

acher.info/weblog/20

11/02/weve-got-to-th

row-off-this-ugly-bl

airite-legacy-if-wer

e-going-to-win/#more

-2022

It was Labours mismanagement of PFI's that's put many hospitals & schools close to bankruptcy & this was happening before any cuts

Linesman wrote:

Shoong wrote:

Linesman wrote:

Shoong wrote:

Linesman wrote:
Cameron promised that the NHS would be safe in Tory hands.

In the past couple of years we have seen the difference between Tory Words and Tory Actions.

All Lies!

Privatise!

What did you do last time out to help then?

I hope at least you signed a petition and made a donation, or does ranting about it on a newspaper website count as your effort?

Explain. As usual, your comment is difficult to understand.

Would you like a translator?

Did you sign the previous petition?

Did you make a donation to the cause?

Not sure I can put it any simple than that.

I am unaware of any petition related to this subject, so it can be assumed that I did not sign it.

As I did not sign it, it must be assumed that I made no donation, whether in cash, suggestion, time or anything else.

If YOU know what form of words were used on this petition, perhaps you would let me know and then I can say for sure whether or not I signed.

So you didn't do sweet FA then, you care so much.

Glad we've managed to establish that.

loosehead wrote:

Dresnez wrote:
Hunt is no pro NHS. They will do what they want regardless of what we want.

NHS is not safe in Labour's hands either. They are going to privatise it regardless who is in power and further more the welfare system will be dismantled.

There is no Labour Party any more. Blair and Brown changed it. It is merely a less right wing version of the Tories.

However don't go thinking your tax bill will go down it won't. It will be used to assist business.

http://www.michaelme


acher.info/weblog/20


11/02/weve-got-to-th


row-off-this-ugly-bl


airite-legacy-if-wer


e-going-to-win/#more


-2022

It was Labours mismanagement of PFI's that's put many hospitals & schools close to bankruptcy & this was happening before any cuts

If the Tories under Thatcher had used the £Billions that they had raised when they sold off the nation's assets, to build schools and hospitals etc etc there would have been no need for PFI.

What have we got to show for all those £Billions raised?

Answer - Sweet FA.

Shoong wrote:

Linesman wrote:

Shoong wrote:

Linesman wrote:

Shoong wrote:

Linesman wrote:
Cameron promised that the NHS would be safe in Tory hands.

In the past couple of years we have seen the difference between Tory Words and Tory Actions.

All Lies!

Privatise!

What did you do last time out to help then?

I hope at least you signed a petition and made a donation, or does ranting about it on a newspaper website count as your effort?

Explain. As usual, your comment is difficult to understand.

Would you like a translator?

Did you sign the previous petition?

Did you make a donation to the cause?

Not sure I can put it any simple than that.

I am unaware of any petition related to this subject, so it can be assumed that I did not sign it.

As I did not sign it, it must be assumed that I made no donation, whether in cash, suggestion, time or anything else.

If YOU know what form of words were used on this petition, perhaps you would let me know and then I can say for sure whether or not I signed.

So you didn't do sweet FA then, you care so much.

Glad we've managed to establish that.

I see by your response that you have no idea what you were talking about otherwise you would have given the information that I requested.

Shoong wrote:

Linesman wrote:

Shoong wrote:

Linesman wrote:

Shoong wrote:

Linesman wrote:
Cameron promised that the NHS would be safe in Tory hands.

In the past couple of years we have seen the difference between Tory Words and Tory Actions.

All Lies!

Privatise!

What did you do last time out to help then?

I hope at least you signed a petition and made a donation, or does ranting about it on a newspaper website count as your effort?

Explain. As usual, your comment is difficult to understand.

Would you like a translator?

Did you sign the previous petition?

Did you make a donation to the cause?

Not sure I can put it any simple than that.

I am unaware of any petition related to this subject, so it can be assumed that I did not sign it.

As I did not sign it, it must be assumed that I made no donation, whether in cash, suggestion, time or anything else.

If YOU know what form of words were used on this petition, perhaps you would let me know and then I can say for sure whether or not I signed.

So you didn't do sweet FA then, you care so much.

Glad we've managed to establish that.

"So you didn't do sweet FA then." = "So you didn't do nothing." = If I didn't do nothing, I must have done something.

Glad we've managed to establish that!

Linesman wrote:

Shoong wrote:

Linesman wrote:

Shoong wrote:

Linesman wrote:

Shoong wrote:

Linesman wrote:
Cameron promised that the NHS would be safe in Tory hands.

In the past couple of years we have seen the difference between Tory Words and Tory Actions.

All Lies!

Privatise!

What did you do last time out to help then?

I hope at least you signed a petition and made a donation, or does ranting about it on a newspaper website count as your effort?

Explain. As usual, your comment is difficult to understand.

Would you like a translator?

Did you sign the previous petition?

Did you make a donation to the cause?

Not sure I can put it any simple than that.

I am unaware of any petition related to this subject, so it can be assumed that I did not sign it.

As I did not sign it, it must be assumed that I made no donation, whether in cash, suggestion, time or anything else.

If YOU know what form of words were used on this petition, perhaps you would let me know and then I can say for sure whether or not I signed.

So you didn't do sweet FA then, you care so much.

Glad we've managed to establish that.

"So you didn't do sweet FA then." = "So you didn't do nothing." = If I didn't do nothing, I must have done something.

Glad we've managed to establish that!

Why do left wing debaters end up like you?
In the beginning I believed I could have a good debate with you but then as with Southy you throw in the Maggie years but fail to mention how she paid off the IMF loan that Labour had to take out?
You & many others can't have an open minded debate you only see that your point of view is right even when it's blatantly obvious it isn't.
Then you insult my sport as what a way to prove your argument is right?
You should read all the sources on this matter & then comment as I have done

loosehead wrote:

Linesman wrote:

Shoong wrote:

Linesman wrote:

Shoong wrote:

Linesman wrote:

Shoong wrote:

Linesman wrote:
Cameron promised that the NHS would be safe in Tory hands.

In the past couple of years we have seen the difference between Tory Words and Tory Actions.

All Lies!

Privatise!

What did you do last time out to help then?

I hope at least you signed a petition and made a donation, or does ranting about it on a newspaper website count as your effort?

Explain. As usual, your comment is difficult to understand.

Would you like a translator?

Did you sign the previous petition?

Did you make a donation to the cause?

Not sure I can put it any simple than that.

I am unaware of any petition related to this subject, so it can be assumed that I did not sign it.

As I did not sign it, it must be assumed that I made no donation, whether in cash, suggestion, time or anything else.

If YOU know what form of words were used on this petition, perhaps you would let me know and then I can say for sure whether or not I signed.

So you didn't do sweet FA then, you care so much.

Glad we've managed to establish that.

"So you didn't do sweet FA then." = "So you didn't do nothing." = If I didn't do nothing, I must have done something.

Glad we've managed to establish that!

Why do left wing debaters end up like you?
In the beginning I believed I could have a good debate with you but then as with Southy you throw in the Maggie years but fail to mention how she paid off the IMF loan that Labour had to take out?
You & many others can't have an open minded debate you only see that your point of view is right even when it's blatantly obvious it isn't.
Then you insult my sport as what a way to prove your argument is right?
You should read all the sources on this matter & then comment as I have done

You could not have a good debate with anyone, because you have blinkered vision, and only hear what you want to hear.

So Maggie paid off the IMF Loan. Did that happen before all the money went down the drain on Black Wednesday?

As it happens, Gordon Brown cleared the debt when he was Chancellor, but did not need interest rates in the teens, with Bailiffs being the only growth industry and millions out of work.

"You should read all the sources on this matter & then comment as I have done."

I would suggest that you be very careful that you do not dislocate your shoulder when you are patting yourself on your back.

I have checked out all the comments that I have made on this subject and fail to see any comment that I have made about Rugby.

Similarly, I have not seen any of your usual disparaging remarks about Association Football.

Linesman wrote:

loosehead wrote:

Linesman wrote:

Shoong wrote:

Linesman wrote:

Shoong wrote:

Linesman wrote:

Shoong wrote:

Linesman wrote:
Cameron promised that the NHS would be safe in Tory hands.

In the past couple of years we have seen the difference between Tory Words and Tory Actions.

All Lies!

Privatise!

What did you do last time out to help then?

I hope at least you signed a petition and made a donation, or does ranting about it on a newspaper website count as your effort?

Explain. As usual, your comment is difficult to understand.

Would you like a translator?

Did you sign the previous petition?

Did you make a donation to the cause?

Not sure I can put it any simple than that.

I am unaware of any petition related to this subject, so it can be assumed that I did not sign it.

As I did not sign it, it must be assumed that I made no donation, whether in cash, suggestion, time or anything else.

If YOU know what form of words were used on this petition, perhaps you would let me know and then I can say for sure whether or not I signed.

So you didn't do sweet FA then, you care so much.

Glad we've managed to establish that.

"So you didn't do sweet FA then." = "So you didn't do nothing." = If I didn't do nothing, I must have done something.

Glad we've managed to establish that!

Why do left wing debaters end up like you?
In the beginning I believed I could have a good debate with you but then as with Southy you throw in the Maggie years but fail to mention how she paid off the IMF loan that Labour had to take out?
You & many others can't have an open minded debate you only see that your point of view is right even when it's blatantly obvious it isn't.
Then you insult my sport as what a way to prove your argument is right?
You should read all the sources on this matter & then comment as I have done

You could not have a good debate with anyone, because you have blinkered vision, and only hear what you want to hear.

So Maggie paid off the IMF Loan. Did that happen before all the money went down the drain on Black Wednesday?

As it happens, Gordon Brown cleared the debt when he was Chancellor, but did not need interest rates in the teens, with Bailiffs being the only growth industry and millions out of work.

"You should read all the sources on this matter & then comment as I have done."

I would suggest that you be very careful that you do not dislocate your shoulder when you are patting yourself on your back.

I have checked out all the comments that I have made on this subject and fail to see any comment that I have made about Rugby.

Similarly, I have not seen any of your usual disparaging remarks about Association Football.

sorry but prove that it was Brown who paid off the debt Labour put us into ( Dennis Healy).
I have disagreed with the Tory party over the Bio Mass & I would have ripped into them if at ACAS they hadn't tried to talk to the unions but they did the unions wouldn't.
If this was Jeremy Hunts decision because of the Rail franchise chaos I would have called for his head but it wasn't & it was down to three hospitals claiming the review wasn't fair.
So please explain to me where I'm blinkered?
Please explain to me when I was saying to the refuse workers ( many are my friends) take this cut keep your jobs do the overtime or watch out you could be out of work how was I blinkered when by the looks of it I was dead right?
Just because Williams & his Labour colleagues with the help of two union officials have lied & betrayed the workforce & seemingly fooled you into believing every word they say that doesn't make me blinkered but makes you look a little blind to the truth doesn't it?
When Blair took over from the Tory Government the economy was on the mend & whilst him & Brown carried on with the Tory plans every thing was going hunky Dory but then came the Labour policies & now look at us

The whole point is that the review has taken years, is detailed , fair, independent and is essential to improve the service.
Sign the petition now to stop the politicians and accountants getting hold of it.
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HeartNick wrote:
The whole point is that the review has taken years, is detailed , fair, independent and is essential to improve the service.
Sign the petition now to stop the politicians and accountants getting hold of it.
http://epetitions.di

rect.gov.uk/petition

s/35788

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