Former MIllbrook School head comes under fire from presenter

Daily Echo: TV star Fiona Phillips rant at old school sparks anger - VIDEO TV star Fiona Phillips rant at old school sparks anger - VIDEO

IT was a return to her former school days that she may live to regret.

TV star Fiona Phillips was the guest speaker at the opening of the £16m Oasis Academy Lord’s Hill School in Southampton.

But her remarks about life at its predecessor Millbrook School, which she attended in the 1970s, have provoked a furious reaction in the city.

The 51-year-old said she had left primary school at the “top of the class” and her arrival at Millbrook School had been an “eye-opener”.

She said it was a “school rampant with hormones and no discipline” with no aspiration or encouragement, and told how furniture was thrown around the classes and how a teacher was thrown over bush.

She said the teaching staff did “nothing” to shore up educational standards and values and said the former head Fred Lowry “commanded no respect whatsoever”.

She said she left with one O-level and had been turned into a “vile teenager”.

“I’m proud to say I went to Millbrook School. I’m not proud of the education I had there,”

she said in her speech.

Ms Phillips went on to say she got “angry” when she drove around Millbrook as there had been “hardly any investment in this part of town for nearly half a century”.

During her tirade Ms Phillips also named a city shopkeeper who she compared to Jimmy Savile.

Mayor Derek Burke, a former governor of Millbrook School who was in the audience, accused Ms Phillips of “dramatic licence”.

He said while the school did have its share of problems, “it wasn’t nearly as bad as she painted.”

He said head teachers attending a function at the council yesterday had told him they were “very uncomfortable with her remarks”.

Mr Burke said: “I knew Fred. I was a governor at the tail end of his time at Millbrook.

“He was a good head teacher of the school. I believe he had respect.”

Cllr Burke said his d a u g h t e r s h a d attended Millbrook School and achieved “lots of GCSEs” along with their friends.

One Daily Echo reader who went to Millbrook School at the same time as Ms Phillips said: “I left school with seven O-levels. I went to college and worked for my A-levels and went to university and worked for my degree.

“I know from personal experience that many of my fellow Millbrook pupils did the same – more than the national average for the time.

“There was nothing wrong with the school nor the pupils who worked hard at their education.

“Perhaps if Ms Phillips had not spent so much time throwing furniture and teachers around she may have got more out of her time there.”

Councillor Don Thomas, a pupil at Millbrook School’s predecessor in the 1960s, said: “It’s not appropriate for her to be criticising a former local authority school which did a good job in difficult circumstances.”

He said he had been contacted by one resident who was very angry at Ms Phillips outburst.

“They were upset at Millbrook being badmouthed.

They said it was a good school and proud to go to it.”

The Daily Echo put Ms Phillips’ remarks to Mr Lowry at his home in Ashurst.

The retired head, now 85, was visibly disappointed but declined to comment.

He was head teacher of the school between 1972 and 1988 after moving from St George’s C of E School.

Millbrook was, at the time, one of the largest schools in Southampton with more than 1,200 pupils attending by the mid- ’70s.

Ms Phillips was unavailable for comment.

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2:50pm Thu 25 Oct 12

owen_thesaints says...

"She said the teaching staff did “nothing” to sure up educational standards"

"shore up" perhaps, says it all about the Echo these days...
"She said the teaching staff did “nothing” to sure up educational standards" "shore up" perhaps, says it all about the Echo these days... owen_thesaints
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2:52pm Thu 25 Oct 12

nedscrumpo says...

Freedom of speech exercised by Ms Phillips.... freedom of speech exercised by me..who cares what happened that long ago!
Freedom of speech exercised by Ms Phillips.... freedom of speech exercised by me..who cares what happened that long ago! nedscrumpo
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3:13pm Thu 25 Oct 12

Linesman says...

TV Star?

Is a News Reader really classified as a TV Star?

OK, you need to be able to read, but does that make you a Star?
TV Star? Is a News Reader really classified as a TV Star? OK, you need to be able to read, but does that make you a Star? Linesman
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3:14pm Thu 25 Oct 12

Frank28 says...

I don't suppose she'll be getting another invite from the school! Who would want to aspire to be another Fiona Phillips anyway?
I don't suppose she'll be getting another invite from the school! Who would want to aspire to be another Fiona Phillips anyway? Frank28
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3:14pm Thu 25 Oct 12

melsm57 says...

owen_thesaints wrote:
"She said the teaching staff did “nothing” to sure up educational standards" "shore up" perhaps, says it all about the Echo these days...
My thought exactly - and also "St. George's C of E School'? - really, I think that you will find it's a Catholic School!
[quote][p][bold]owen_thesaints[/bold] wrote: "She said the teaching staff did “nothing” to sure up educational standards" "shore up" perhaps, says it all about the Echo these days...[/p][/quote]My thought exactly - and also "St. George's C of E School'? - really, I think that you will find it's a Catholic School! melsm57
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3:14pm Thu 25 Oct 12

userds5050 says...

I think a few people criticising Ms Phillips are looking back through rose tinted spectacles. Skool daze and all that. The place was a dump. Didn't it fail an Ofsted report?
I think a few people criticising Ms Phillips are looking back through rose tinted spectacles. Skool daze and all that. The place was a dump. Didn't it fail an Ofsted report? userds5050
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3:21pm Thu 25 Oct 12

Stillness says...

Compared to Erick Stride Fred Lowry was a first class teacher. Compared to their predecessor Mr Dale they both become insignificant. As to Miss Phillips? Well she looks to be doing okay considering her Millbrook education. As to her statement that "the teaching staff did “nothing” to sure up educational standards" it's a shame she wasn't born a couple of years earlier so she could have experienced Milam's ruler, Barraclough's trainer, Strides cane and Tostovin's tounge.
I can't comment on Fiona at school, I only have second hand reports of her at Lordshill subway ;-)
Compared to Erick Stride Fred Lowry was a first class teacher. Compared to their predecessor Mr Dale they both become insignificant. As to Miss Phillips? Well she looks to be doing okay considering her Millbrook education. As to her statement that "the teaching staff did “nothing” to sure up educational standards" it's a shame she wasn't born a couple of years earlier so she could have experienced Milam's ruler, Barraclough's trainer, Strides cane and Tostovin's tounge. I can't comment on Fiona at school, I only have second hand reports of her at Lordshill subway ;-) Stillness
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5:13pm Thu 25 Oct 12

8089 says...

Well, she's no doubt, absolutely right.......She experienced it for herself. So,If the truth hurts TOUGH!!!!!!!!!
Well, she's no doubt, absolutely right.......She experienced it for herself. So,If the truth hurts TOUGH!!!!!!!!! 8089
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5:45pm Thu 25 Oct 12

SaintM says...

why is she a 'miss' and whi is she anyway just some smarmy idiot. I seen her condescending tv adverts
why is she a 'miss' and whi is she anyway just some smarmy idiot. I seen her condescending tv adverts SaintM
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5:52pm Thu 25 Oct 12

Stillness says...

SaintM wrote:
why is she a 'miss' and whi is she anyway just some smarmy idiot. I seen her condescending tv adverts
I here that her English grammar leaves a bit to be desired as well.
[quote][p][bold]SaintM[/bold] wrote: why is she a 'miss' and whi is she anyway just some smarmy idiot. I seen her condescending tv adverts[/p][/quote]I here that her English grammar leaves a bit to be desired as well. Stillness
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6:03pm Thu 25 Oct 12

Katie_99 says...

I'm a student at Oasis and I was there when she made her speech and most of that is rubbish. She never mentions anything to do with a "shopkeeper" and "Jimmy Saville". Honestly, I think the worst thing she said was saying that she had a teacher called "Mrs. Budge" who, and I quote as much as I can clearly remember, left them alone in the classroom with a textbook.
I'm a student at Oasis and I was there when she made her speech and most of that is rubbish. She never mentions anything to do with a "shopkeeper" and "Jimmy Saville". Honestly, I think the worst thing she said was saying that she had a teacher called "Mrs. Budge" who, and I quote as much as I can clearly remember, left them alone in the classroom with a textbook. Katie_99
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6:17pm Thu 25 Oct 12

skin2000 says...

Linesman wrote:
TV Star?

Is a News Reader really classified as a TV Star?

OK, you need to be able to read, but does that make you a Star?
As she was able to read to read the news, the school couldn't have been that bad.
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: TV Star? Is a News Reader really classified as a TV Star? OK, you need to be able to read, but does that make you a Star?[/p][/quote]As she was able to read to read the news, the school couldn't have been that bad. skin2000
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6:57pm Thu 25 Oct 12

userds5050 says...

Katie_99 wrote:
I'm a student at Oasis and I was there when she made her speech and most of that is rubbish. She never mentions anything to do with a "shopkeeper" and "Jimmy Saville". Honestly, I think the worst thing she said was saying that she had a teacher called "Mrs. Budge" who, and I quote as much as I can clearly remember, left them alone in the classroom with a textbook.
Er, watch the video. The audio isn't that clear but she does compare the shopkeeper to Jimmy Savile.
[quote][p][bold]Katie_99[/bold] wrote: I'm a student at Oasis and I was there when she made her speech and most of that is rubbish. She never mentions anything to do with a "shopkeeper" and "Jimmy Saville". Honestly, I think the worst thing she said was saying that she had a teacher called "Mrs. Budge" who, and I quote as much as I can clearly remember, left them alone in the classroom with a textbook.[/p][/quote]Er, watch the video. The audio isn't that clear but she does compare the shopkeeper to Jimmy Savile. userds5050
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7:43pm Thu 25 Oct 12

gristle says...

I'm from the North East. Secondary Modern education, qualified tradesman.
I moved to Soton 30 odd years ago and within a few weeks I'd decided that most local folk were either thick, or poorly educated. I soon learned that to avoid ridicule at work, I had to 'dumb down' - and talk about 'footer' and the Saints. Nothing much has changed over time, and even today, when talking to a Sotonion, I'll use three or four short words to describe a situation, rather than one longer word that might be misunderstood.
I know, I know, apostrophes - never was good with them !
I'm from the North East. Secondary Modern education, qualified tradesman. I moved to Soton 30 odd years ago and within a few weeks I'd decided that most local folk were either thick, or poorly educated. I soon learned that to avoid ridicule at work, I had to 'dumb down' - and talk about 'footer' and the Saints. Nothing much has changed over time, and even today, when talking to a Sotonion, I'll use three or four short words to describe a situation, rather than one longer word that might be misunderstood. I know, I know, apostrophes - never was good with them ! gristle
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7:44pm Thu 25 Oct 12

Here, There says...

Phillips has achieved more exposure in these last 2 days than she has in the 2 or so years she left GMTV, a Headmaster didnt have to "command respect" he achieved it from most naturally unless of course you were a little upstart who had no respect for authority which is the category in which Phillips falls, Teachers at Millbrook throughout my time there enforced discipline and a cane, slipper, trainer or Blackboard rubber was to hand in any event, she was trying to be sensational oppose to championing her roots, as highlighted above she spent too much time getting the four finger jab from her peers !
Phillips has achieved more exposure in these last 2 days than she has in the 2 or so years she left GMTV, a Headmaster didnt have to "command respect" he achieved it from most naturally unless of course you were a little upstart who had no respect for authority which is the category in which Phillips falls, Teachers at Millbrook throughout my time there enforced discipline and a cane, slipper, trainer or Blackboard rubber was to hand in any event, she was trying to be sensational oppose to championing her roots, as highlighted above she spent too much time getting the four finger jab from her peers ! Here, There
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7:55pm Thu 25 Oct 12

Limplarry says...

Can't believe she went to Mongbrook, I'm surprised she can write her own name, well at least she's got a job instead being a sponger like the rest of the Mongbrook Graduates.
Can't believe she went to Mongbrook, I'm surprised she can write her own name, well at least she's got a job instead being a sponger like the rest of the Mongbrook Graduates. Limplarry
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8:13pm Thu 25 Oct 12

Lawadjuster says...

At that time it was seen locally as a crap school! would never want my kids to go there end of!!!!!!
At that time it was seen locally as a crap school! would never want my kids to go there end of!!!!!! Lawadjuster
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8:18pm Thu 25 Oct 12

tinmansr222 says...

I had the misfortune to spend 4 miserable years at Glen Eyre, Hated every last moment of it. Ive never looked back, The teachers were either bullies or didnt care less. Hated the place.
I had the misfortune to spend 4 miserable years at Glen Eyre, Hated every last moment of it. Ive never looked back, The teachers were either bullies or didnt care less. Hated the place. tinmansr222
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8:23pm Thu 25 Oct 12

10 Minute Man says...

"A good job in difficult circumstances" yeah yeah but what's the excuse now, and why have things not got significantly better in the last 30 years ?

Same old dinosaurs out defending the rubbish performance which has let down our city for the last 30-40 years.
"A good job in difficult circumstances" yeah yeah but what's the excuse now, and why have things not got significantly better in the last 30 years ? Same old dinosaurs out defending the rubbish performance which has let down our city for the last 30-40 years. 10 Minute Man
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8:23pm Thu 25 Oct 12

tinmansr222 says...

10 Minute Man wrote:
"A good job in difficult circumstances" yeah yeah but what's the excuse now, and why have things not got significantly better in the last 30 years ?

Same old dinosaurs out defending the rubbish performance which has let down our city for the last 30-40 years.
well said.
[quote][p][bold]10 Minute Man[/bold] wrote: "A good job in difficult circumstances" yeah yeah but what's the excuse now, and why have things not got significantly better in the last 30 years ? Same old dinosaurs out defending the rubbish performance which has let down our city for the last 30-40 years.[/p][/quote]well said. tinmansr222
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9:45pm Thu 25 Oct 12

LornaMay says...

Well from Memory Millbrook School had a pretty poor reputation as did
Redbridge School.. Millbrook was and still is a working class area..
Changing a Name of a School is just a Ploy to remove it from any previous Life and stigma it collects from poor performance and uncontrollable pupils..
Like Glen Eyre School which changed to Cantel in the 90's..
Millbrook School was in a deprived area and not one most of us would have touched with a Barge Pole..
I think Ms Phillips is right and has been very lucky to have done so well as an individual..
Something we should all have the chance of whatever background we are from.
Well from Memory Millbrook School had a pretty poor reputation as did Redbridge School.. Millbrook was and still is a working class area.. Changing a Name of a School is just a Ploy to remove it from any previous Life and stigma it collects from poor performance and uncontrollable pupils.. Like Glen Eyre School which changed to Cantel in the 90's.. Millbrook School was in a deprived area and not one most of us would have touched with a Barge Pole.. I think Ms Phillips is right and has been very lucky to have done so well as an individual.. Something we should all have the chance of whatever background we are from. LornaMay
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9:48pm Thu 25 Oct 12

TheTom says...

I've never been that keen on Phillips & now I know why. Apart from Twitchy Redknapp, AKA Judas, only a Thatcher loving Tory would betray their roots and say such hurtful things about a community/school that meant so much to so many. It may have been a sh!tehole yet, it was our sh!tehole & I 4 one was proud 2 bunk off from there on a regular basis. Phillips you are a disgrace & I hope you end up working @ pies r us with fatboy Holmes 4 the rest of eternity.
I've never been that keen on Phillips & now I know why. Apart from Twitchy Redknapp, AKA Judas, only a Thatcher loving Tory would betray their roots and say such hurtful things about a community/school that meant so much to so many. It may have been a sh!tehole yet, it was our sh!tehole & I 4 one was proud 2 bunk off from there on a regular basis. Phillips you are a disgrace & I hope you end up working @ pies r us with fatboy Holmes 4 the rest of eternity. TheTom
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9:56pm Thu 25 Oct 12

Stillness says...

TheTom wrote:
I've never been that keen on Phillips & now I know why. Apart from Twitchy Redknapp, AKA Judas, only a Thatcher loving Tory would betray their roots and say such hurtful things about a community/school that meant so much to so many. It may have been a sh!tehole yet, it was our sh!tehole & I 4 one was proud 2 bunk off from there on a regular basis. Phillips you are a disgrace & I hope you end up working @ pies r us with fatboy Holmes 4 the rest of eternity.
Strange how quickly the tribal mentality kicks in. It was a school you happened to live close to that's all. Get over it.
[quote][p][bold]TheTom[/bold] wrote: I've never been that keen on Phillips & now I know why. Apart from Twitchy Redknapp, AKA Judas, only a Thatcher loving Tory would betray their roots and say such hurtful things about a community/school that meant so much to so many. It may have been a sh!tehole yet, it was our sh!tehole & I 4 one was proud 2 bunk off from there on a regular basis. Phillips you are a disgrace & I hope you end up working @ pies r us with fatboy Holmes 4 the rest of eternity.[/p][/quote]Strange how quickly the tribal mentality kicks in. It was a school you happened to live close to that's all. Get over it. Stillness
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10:11pm Thu 25 Oct 12

sampton says...

Unless I'm missing something... Did The Echo go to an elderly gentleman's home and repeat her rant to him and asked him how he felt about it?

Well that's his week ruined. Well done!
Unless I'm missing something... Did The Echo go to an elderly gentleman's home and repeat her rant to him and asked him how he felt about it? Well that's his week ruined. Well done! sampton
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10:43pm Thu 25 Oct 12

jonnyx says...

sampton wrote:
Unless I'm missing something... Did The Echo go to an elderly gentleman's home and repeat her rant to him and asked him how he felt about it?

Well that's his week ruined. Well done!
my thoughts exactly. well done the echo on hassling and old man i hope it was worth seeing him 'visibly disappointed' just so you could use the phrase in your pointless little article.
[quote][p][bold]sampton[/bold] wrote: Unless I'm missing something... Did The Echo go to an elderly gentleman's home and repeat her rant to him and asked him how he felt about it? Well that's his week ruined. Well done![/p][/quote]my thoughts exactly. well done the echo on hassling and old man i hope it was worth seeing him 'visibly disappointed' just so you could use the phrase in your pointless little article. jonnyx
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8:19am Fri 26 Oct 12

SaintAsh1964 says...

Limplarry wrote:
Can't believe she went to Mongbrook, I'm surprised she can write her own name, well at least she's got a job instead being a sponger like the rest of the Mongbrook Graduates.
Mongbrook? What's your mental age I wonder to still be using School ground names, mind you looking at your user name I'm guessing that "Limp Larry" was picked on some what.
[quote][p][bold]Limplarry[/bold] wrote: Can't believe she went to Mongbrook, I'm surprised she can write her own name, well at least she's got a job instead being a sponger like the rest of the Mongbrook Graduates.[/p][/quote]Mongbrook? What's your mental age I wonder to still be using School ground names, mind you looking at your user name I'm guessing that "Limp Larry" was picked on some what. SaintAsh1964
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9:56am Fri 26 Oct 12

freemantlegirl2 says...

Limplarry wrote:
Can't believe she went to Mongbrook, I'm surprised she can write her own name, well at least she's got a job instead being a sponger like the rest of the Mongbrook Graduates.
and what exactly do you mean by 'mong' brook??

or do you come from the Ricky Gervais school of insults against people with learning difficulties which is an entirely different thing from social deprivation and not doing well at school!! Remember Mr Gervais had to issue grovelling apologies because of all the people he upset by using a socially unacceptable and inappropriate word....

Pathetic and keep your nasty little jibes to yourself! perhaps you ought to work with some people with LD and educate yourself!
[quote][p][bold]Limplarry[/bold] wrote: Can't believe she went to Mongbrook, I'm surprised she can write her own name, well at least she's got a job instead being a sponger like the rest of the Mongbrook Graduates.[/p][/quote]and what exactly do you mean by 'mong' brook?? or do you come from the Ricky Gervais school of insults against people with learning difficulties which is an entirely different thing from social deprivation and not doing well at school!! Remember Mr Gervais had to issue grovelling apologies because of all the people he upset by using a socially unacceptable and inappropriate word.... Pathetic and keep your nasty little jibes to yourself! perhaps you ought to work with some people with LD and educate yourself! freemantlegirl2
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9:59am Fri 26 Oct 12

999medic says...

Tinmanssr222 I went to glen eyre, and can agree with your comments, the place was full of bullies, and some of he teachers were as well, and just laughed when you were punched by them, one of the best was Mr Hyde, and Even Mr Sturgess, and joe House.

One teacher and I will name him, Mr Harding effectively beat me up in aHall after I was late for my cue in a school play. He hit so many times I lost count, it was witnessed by others and nothing was done to stop it nor any consequences, but then in the 80s they just got away with it.
Tinmanssr222 I went to glen eyre, and can agree with your comments, the place was full of bullies, and some of he teachers were as well, and just laughed when you were punched by them, one of the best was Mr Hyde, and Even Mr Sturgess, and joe House. One teacher and I will name him, Mr Harding effectively beat me up in aHall after I was late for my cue in a school play. He hit so many times I lost count, it was witnessed by others and nothing was done to stop it nor any consequences, but then in the 80s they just got away with it. 999medic
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10:02am Fri 26 Oct 12

freemantlegirl2 says...

10 Minute Man wrote:
"A good job in difficult circumstances" yeah yeah but what's the excuse now, and why have things not got significantly better in the last 30 years ?

Same old dinosaurs out defending the rubbish performance which has let down our city for the last 30-40 years.
I wasn't brought up in Soton but my school had it's fair share of elements of this. Unless you went to Grammar school you got a second glass deal. My sister went to Grammar and she was bullied by teachers and others alike and was thoroughly miserable. Like Fiona I made up for my lack of school educationn by doing well at college and university. Sadly this is still happening to children/young people now. Look at the fiasco with Oasis Mayfield! It's so sad that young
people are still getting a rough deal but schools are trying their best under hugely difficult circumstances.....

Fiona Phillips is only telling it how she saw/lived it - what is so bad about that? perhaps she went a bit far with the shopkeeper comment but she obviously is speaking from her own experiences in Soton. would you all want her to pretend that everything was perfect? I wouldn't!
[quote][p][bold]10 Minute Man[/bold] wrote: "A good job in difficult circumstances" yeah yeah but what's the excuse now, and why have things not got significantly better in the last 30 years ? Same old dinosaurs out defending the rubbish performance which has let down our city for the last 30-40 years.[/p][/quote]I wasn't brought up in Soton but my school had it's fair share of elements of this. Unless you went to Grammar school you got a second glass deal. My sister went to Grammar and she was bullied by teachers and others alike and was thoroughly miserable. Like Fiona I made up for my lack of school educationn by doing well at college and university. Sadly this is still happening to children/young people now. Look at the fiasco with Oasis Mayfield! It's so sad that young people are still getting a rough deal but schools are trying their best under hugely difficult circumstances..... Fiona Phillips is only telling it how she saw/lived it - what is so bad about that? perhaps she went a bit far with the shopkeeper comment but she obviously is speaking from her own experiences in Soton. would you all want her to pretend that everything was perfect? I wouldn't! freemantlegirl2
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10:56am Fri 26 Oct 12

10 Minute Man says...

freemantlegirl2 wrote:
10 Minute Man wrote:
"A good job in difficult circumstances" yeah yeah but what's the excuse now, and why have things not got significantly better in the last 30 years ?

Same old dinosaurs out defending the rubbish performance which has let down our city for the last 30-40 years.
I wasn't brought up in Soton but my school had it's fair share of elements of this. Unless you went to Grammar school you got a second glass deal. My sister went to Grammar and she was bullied by teachers and others alike and was thoroughly miserable. Like Fiona I made up for my lack of school educationn by doing well at college and university. Sadly this is still happening to children/young people now. Look at the fiasco with Oasis Mayfield! It's so sad that young
people are still getting a rough deal but schools are trying their best under hugely difficult circumstances.....

Fiona Phillips is only telling it how she saw/lived it - what is so bad about that? perhaps she went a bit far with the shopkeeper comment but she obviously is speaking from her own experiences in Soton. would you all want her to pretend that everything was perfect? I wouldn't!
No she's right for speaking out, and the council/LEA apologists should take the criticism seriously rather than sticking up for the system which let so many people down.

I was lucky to have a first rate education via the grammar school system, with really high expectations of children's abilities. . Leaving the selective-versus-com
prehensive argument aside, the overall standard and expectation is what needs bringing up. The idea that our schools will not play their part in helping all Southampton's kids to be the best they can be make me feel sick.
[quote][p][bold]freemantlegirl2[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]10 Minute Man[/bold] wrote: "A good job in difficult circumstances" yeah yeah but what's the excuse now, and why have things not got significantly better in the last 30 years ? Same old dinosaurs out defending the rubbish performance which has let down our city for the last 30-40 years.[/p][/quote]I wasn't brought up in Soton but my school had it's fair share of elements of this. Unless you went to Grammar school you got a second glass deal. My sister went to Grammar and she was bullied by teachers and others alike and was thoroughly miserable. Like Fiona I made up for my lack of school educationn by doing well at college and university. Sadly this is still happening to children/young people now. Look at the fiasco with Oasis Mayfield! It's so sad that young people are still getting a rough deal but schools are trying their best under hugely difficult circumstances..... Fiona Phillips is only telling it how she saw/lived it - what is so bad about that? perhaps she went a bit far with the shopkeeper comment but she obviously is speaking from her own experiences in Soton. would you all want her to pretend that everything was perfect? I wouldn't![/p][/quote]No she's right for speaking out, and the council/LEA apologists should take the criticism seriously rather than sticking up for the system which let so many people down. I was lucky to have a first rate education via the grammar school system, with really high expectations of children's abilities. . Leaving the selective-versus-com prehensive argument aside, the overall standard and expectation is what needs bringing up. The idea that our schools will not play their part in helping all Southampton's kids to be the best they can be make me feel sick. 10 Minute Man
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11:00am Fri 26 Oct 12

amackers says...

As part of Fiona's gang of friends at Millbrook School I can say first hand that the way she remembers it is a little foggy to say the least....Fiona was a law unto herself from day one...verbally abusing teachers, especially the German teacher I recall...I read an article she wrote years after we had left saying that she was bullied at school by those pupils living in the council estates for living in Rylandes Court! She was very strong minded and the 'leader' rather than the victim. Millbrook School wasn't the best school in the City but despite it, if that's how she sees it, she has done well for herself, so should express some Thanks and fondness for that surely
As part of Fiona's gang of friends at Millbrook School I can say first hand that the way she remembers it is a little foggy to say the least....Fiona was a law unto herself from day one...verbally abusing teachers, especially the German teacher I recall...I read an article she wrote years after we had left saying that she was bullied at school by those pupils living in the council estates for living in Rylandes Court! She was very strong minded and the 'leader' rather than the victim. Millbrook School wasn't the best school in the City but despite it, if that's how she sees it, she has done well for herself, so should express some Thanks and fondness for that surely amackers
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11:03am Fri 26 Oct 12

Here, There says...

What positives have come from her rant Freemantle ? what has she given back to the area since her 'fame' ? she highlights her own poor behaviour..what a fantastic role model..she now goes on to slate the area in a National Rag..she should be ashamed and whoever chose her to open the school should too, a relative noone who I doubt few in the audience aware of who she was. Poor poor choice of guest by the Academy and you would have thought she would have been too busy over this Halloween Period !!
What positives have come from her rant Freemantle ? what has she given back to the area since her 'fame' ? she highlights her own poor behaviour..what a fantastic role model..she now goes on to slate the area in a National Rag..she should be ashamed and whoever chose her to open the school should too, a relative noone who I doubt few in the audience aware of who she was. Poor poor choice of guest by the Academy and you would have thought she would have been too busy over this Halloween Period !! Here, There
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11:27am Fri 26 Oct 12

SaintAsh1964 says...

amackers wrote:
As part of Fiona's gang of friends at Millbrook School I can say first hand that the way she remembers it is a little foggy to say the least....Fiona was a law unto herself from day one...verbally abusing teachers, especially the German teacher I recall...I read an article she wrote years after we had left saying that she was bullied at school by those pupils living in the council estates for living in Rylandes Court! She was very strong minded and the 'leader' rather than the victim. Millbrook School wasn't the best school in the City but despite it, if that's how she sees it, she has done well for herself, so should express some Thanks and fondness for that surely
I remember the article and also stories of her when she came to fame, and like you say, she paints a different picture now to how it probably was.
And in any case perhaps the grounding in life that Redbridge & Millbrook and in deed other schools gave you is sometimes more important then the Education that they gave, what is it they say about the University of life?
Best days of my life and I would go back at the drop of a hat!
[quote][p][bold]amackers[/bold] wrote: As part of Fiona's gang of friends at Millbrook School I can say first hand that the way she remembers it is a little foggy to say the least....Fiona was a law unto herself from day one...verbally abusing teachers, especially the German teacher I recall...I read an article she wrote years after we had left saying that she was bullied at school by those pupils living in the council estates for living in Rylandes Court! She was very strong minded and the 'leader' rather than the victim. Millbrook School wasn't the best school in the City but despite it, if that's how she sees it, she has done well for herself, so should express some Thanks and fondness for that surely[/p][/quote]I remember the article and also stories of her when she came to fame, and like you say, she paints a different picture now to how it probably was. And in any case perhaps the grounding in life that Redbridge & Millbrook and in deed other schools gave you is sometimes more important then the Education that they gave, what is it they say about the University of life? Best days of my life and I would go back at the drop of a hat! SaintAsh1964
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1:03pm Fri 26 Oct 12

Subject48 says...

This woman should not have been allowed to even talk to these kids.

Shes just some nice bit of totty that managed to get on TV to read the paper each morning...

Is the system so brainwashed that just because you get your mug on the tv box you have a right to influence young minds when you are off air?

I mean were all the scientists/doctors and other people who make an actual contribution busy on the day?

Yes school sucks for many people. Me included, i went cantell too and yes it was an utter Sh*&hole.

I moved on and it made me a stronger individual.

It doesent rly matter what happens when ur at school because if you have half a brain, you leave, and you realise that the world is a very big place...

Plus, I think the reason for poor performence of a lot of pupils is down to the parents not giving a flying F&%^k what their children are doing. Cant blame the school if a parent chooses not to look after their kid properly.
This woman should not have been allowed to even talk to these kids. Shes just some nice bit of totty that managed to get on TV to read the paper each morning... Is the system so brainwashed that just because you get your mug on the tv box you have a right to influence young minds when you are off air? I mean were all the scientists/doctors and other people who make an actual contribution busy on the day? Yes school sucks for many people. Me included, i went cantell too and yes it was an utter Sh*&hole. I moved on and it made me a stronger individual. It doesent rly matter what happens when ur at school because if you have half a brain, you leave, and you realise that the world is a very big place... Plus, I think the reason for poor performence of a lot of pupils is down to the parents not giving a flying F&%^k what their children are doing. Cant blame the school if a parent chooses not to look after their kid properly. Subject48
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1:47pm Fri 26 Oct 12

weall8leedscum says...

gristle wrote:
I'm from the North East. Secondary Modern education, qualified tradesman.
I moved to Soton 30 odd years ago and within a few weeks I'd decided that most local folk were either thick, or poorly educated. I soon learned that to avoid ridicule at work, I had to 'dumb down' - and talk about 'footer' and the Saints. Nothing much has changed over time, and even today, when talking to a Sotonion, I'll use three or four short words to describe a situation, rather than one longer word that might be misunderstood.
I know, I know, apostrophes - never was good with them !
Get back oooooop North then you T**t. with all the other knuckle dragging Northern Inbred monkeys .
[quote][p][bold]gristle[/bold] wrote: I'm from the North East. Secondary Modern education, qualified tradesman. I moved to Soton 30 odd years ago and within a few weeks I'd decided that most local folk were either thick, or poorly educated. I soon learned that to avoid ridicule at work, I had to 'dumb down' - and talk about 'footer' and the Saints. Nothing much has changed over time, and even today, when talking to a Sotonion, I'll use three or four short words to describe a situation, rather than one longer word that might be misunderstood. I know, I know, apostrophes - never was good with them ![/p][/quote]Get back oooooop North then you T**t. with all the other knuckle dragging Northern Inbred monkeys . weall8leedscum
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8:42pm Fri 26 Oct 12

sameoldscene says...

Fiona Phillips only got where she did by "blowing" Martin Frizell.
Fiona Phillips only got where she did by "blowing" Martin Frizell. sameoldscene
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10:18pm Fri 26 Oct 12

gristle says...

weall8leedscum wrote:
gristle wrote:
I'm from the North East. Secondary Modern education, qualified tradesman.
I moved to Soton 30 odd years ago and within a few weeks I'd decided that most local folk were either thick, or poorly educated. I soon learned that to avoid ridicule at work, I had to 'dumb down' - and talk about 'footer' and the Saints. Nothing much has changed over time, and even today, when talking to a Sotonion, I'll use three or four short words to describe a situation, rather than one longer word that might be misunderstood.
I know, I know, apostrophes - never was good with them !
Get back oooooop North then you T**t. with all the other knuckle dragging Northern Inbred monkeys .
Nothing much else to say really. Especially to Mr weall8ledscum
[quote][p][bold]weall8leedscum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gristle[/bold] wrote: I'm from the North East. Secondary Modern education, qualified tradesman. I moved to Soton 30 odd years ago and within a few weeks I'd decided that most local folk were either thick, or poorly educated. I soon learned that to avoid ridicule at work, I had to 'dumb down' - and talk about 'footer' and the Saints. Nothing much has changed over time, and even today, when talking to a Sotonion, I'll use three or four short words to describe a situation, rather than one longer word that might be misunderstood. I know, I know, apostrophes - never was good with them ![/p][/quote]Get back oooooop North then you T**t. with all the other knuckle dragging Northern Inbred monkeys .[/p][/quote]Nothing much else to say really. Especially to Mr weall8ledscum gristle
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11:34pm Fri 26 Oct 12

Sir Ad E Noid says...

I have spent many an hour listening to the ignorant rants from the folk up North in my travels. If you think it is bad down here, go back home and visit your old stomping ground. I don't know where your old stomping ground is, and I don't need to, but the thickos up there will keep you entertained for weeks. North East is a bastion of education? Next.
I have spent many an hour listening to the ignorant rants from the folk up North in my travels. If you think it is bad down here, go back home and visit your old stomping ground. I don't know where your old stomping ground is, and I don't need to, but the thickos up there will keep you entertained for weeks. North East is a bastion of education? Next. Sir Ad E Noid
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8:42pm Sat 27 Oct 12

gristle says...

You Sotonions have a lot to thank us real folk for. Laurie McMenemy, Ted Bates, R.J.Mitchell etc. Apart from a couple of second entertainers, I can't think of any Sotonion worth a mention.
You Sotonions have a lot to thank us real folk for. Laurie McMenemy, Ted Bates, R.J.Mitchell etc. Apart from a couple of second entertainers, I can't think of any Sotonion worth a mention. gristle
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11:53am Sun 28 Oct 12

sameoldscene says...

gristle wrote:
You Sotonions have a lot to thank us real folk for. Laurie McMenemy, Ted Bates, R.J.Mitchell etc. Apart from a couple of second entertainers, I can't think of any Sotonion worth a mention.
Benny Hill?
[quote][p][bold]gristle[/bold] wrote: You Sotonions have a lot to thank us real folk for. Laurie McMenemy, Ted Bates, R.J.Mitchell etc. Apart from a couple of second entertainers, I can't think of any Sotonion worth a mention.[/p][/quote]Benny Hill? sameoldscene
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11:44am Thu 1 Nov 12

Scrutinizer says...

gristle wrote:
weall8leedscum wrote:
gristle wrote: I'm from the North East. Secondary Modern education, qualified tradesman. I moved to Soton 30 odd years ago and within a few weeks I'd decided that most local folk were either thick, or poorly educated. I soon learned that to avoid ridicule at work, I had to 'dumb down' - and talk about 'footer' and the Saints. Nothing much has changed over time, and even today, when talking to a Sotonion, I'll use three or four short words to describe a situation, rather than one longer word that might be misunderstood. I know, I know, apostrophes - never was good with them !
Get back oooooop North then you T**t. with all the other knuckle dragging Northern Inbred monkeys .
Nothing much else to say really. Especially to Mr weall8ledscum
May I interject here? I should like to inform everyone, that monkeys are fine as a primate life-form. It's when they wander about in their clogs, grandad shirt, old cloth cap (with the almost obligitory pigeon sh1t stains on it), munchin' on black pud', that they let the side down! No offence to northeners, well not all of 'em anyway! ;-)
[quote][p][bold]gristle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]weall8leedscum[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]gristle[/bold] wrote: I'm from the North East. Secondary Modern education, qualified tradesman. I moved to Soton 30 odd years ago and within a few weeks I'd decided that most local folk were either thick, or poorly educated. I soon learned that to avoid ridicule at work, I had to 'dumb down' - and talk about 'footer' and the Saints. Nothing much has changed over time, and even today, when talking to a Sotonion, I'll use three or four short words to describe a situation, rather than one longer word that might be misunderstood. I know, I know, apostrophes - never was good with them ![/p][/quote]Get back oooooop North then you T**t. with all the other knuckle dragging Northern Inbred monkeys .[/p][/quote]Nothing much else to say really. Especially to Mr weall8ledscum[/p][/quote]May I interject here? I should like to inform everyone, that monkeys are fine as a primate life-form. It's when they wander about in their clogs, grandad shirt, old cloth cap (with the almost obligitory pigeon sh1t stains on it), munchin' on black pud', that they let the side down! No offence to northeners, well not all of 'em anyway! ;-) Scrutinizer
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