City to get new powers to help boost jobs

City to get mew powers to help boost jobs

City to get mew powers to help boost jobs

First published in News Daily Echo: Photograph of the Author by , Parliamentary Correspondent

Southampton could be handed a raft of new powers from Whitehall in an attempt to create thousands of new jobs, the Government will announce today.

Ministers said the new deal would help the city bounce back from the devastating closure of the Ford plant at Swaythling, and the loss of 500 jobs.

If the joint bid from Southampton and Portsmouth is successful, it would be a major change in the way the area is run, with powers over transport, spending and infrastructure devolved from the Government to council bosses.

The Solent area is today named as one of 20 competing for a new City Deal, which the government says will be “absolutely transformative” to each successful area.

Deals have already been struck with the eight largest cities outside London. Bristol is getting long-awaited rail improvements, Birmingham got £25 million for a new medical centre while Liverpool was promised £75 million to boost the economy.

Each offer would be tailored towards the local area, with council and business leaders drawing up a wish-list for the improvements they would like control of.

Cities Minister Greg Clark told the Daily Echo: “Southampton and Portsmouth together have such critical mass that we think it’s very in their interests to work together.

“We want ideas that will really transform an area, attract employers and create jobs. The opportunity is there, for the first time for decades, for cities to say ‘this is what we want to do’ rather than be controlled from Westminster.”

Bids are expected in the next few weeks, while the new deals could be up and running in a year.

Ministers will come under pressure to favour Southampton’s bid after the closure of the Ford plant.

Mr Clark added: “Of course it was disappointing for everyone in Southampton, and certainly the people who had worked there and given their all.

But Southampton has a hugely bright future, and we are determined to do everything we can to help it achieve all of the opportunities that are available, and this is one way of doing that.”

Click here for all the latest fall out to the Ford closure

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8:25am Mon 29 Oct 12

loosehead says...

So let's forget they're Portsmouth & work together.
This could be great for both cities.
Well now the Government has put forward the chance can our local politicians grab it with both hands?
So can these two Solent Cities work together?
Up to you Mr.Williams!
So let's forget they're Portsmouth & work together. This could be great for both cities. Well now the Government has put forward the chance can our local politicians grab it with both hands? So can these two Solent Cities work together? Up to you Mr.Williams! loosehead
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9:12am Mon 29 Oct 12

Lone Ranger. says...

This is bad news to the Blue Dinosaur.
This is bad news to the Blue Dinosaur. Lone Ranger.
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9:26am Mon 29 Oct 12

Linesman says...

No such word as 'transformative' in my dictionary.
No such word as 'transformative' in my dictionary. Linesman
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9:29am Mon 29 Oct 12

good-gosh says...

Lets start with a ten year armistice on NIMBY law and compulsory purchase restrictions, and watch the region's growth match Shanghai. Or is that a bit harsh for a Monday morning "things we could do" list?
Lets start with a ten year armistice on NIMBY law and compulsory purchase restrictions, and watch the region's growth match Shanghai. Or is that a bit harsh for a Monday morning "things we could do" list? good-gosh
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9:45am Mon 29 Oct 12

aldermoorboy says...

In my view with Labour council are not capable of running anything.
An example of this was cancelling the Tory deal with the IOW.
This cost Southampton a huge amount of money that could have been spent helping businesses/people in Southampton.
Vote Tory in 2014 to give are children a better and honest future.
In my view with Labour council are not capable of running anything. An example of this was cancelling the Tory deal with the IOW. This cost Southampton a huge amount of money that could have been spent helping businesses/people in Southampton. Vote Tory in 2014 to give are children a better and honest future. aldermoorboy
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10:06am Mon 29 Oct 12

FoysCornerBoy says...

This is surely the way to go. A strong, prosperous Solent region building on the strengths of the two cities working in partnership.

Key areas for economic development must include marine technology, the new 'green' technology, integrated care systems with associated spin-off activity (telecare, pharma, informatics, research and innovation) and the creative industries. Let's see how much the government is prepared to invest in our region.
This is surely the way to go. A strong, prosperous Solent region building on the strengths of the two cities working in partnership. Key areas for economic development must include marine technology, the new 'green' technology, integrated care systems with associated spin-off activity (telecare, pharma, informatics, research and innovation) and the creative industries. Let's see how much the government is prepared to invest in our region. FoysCornerBoy
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10:06am Mon 29 Oct 12

ohec says...

aldermoorboy wrote:
In my view with Labour council are not capable of running anything.
An example of this was cancelling the Tory deal with the IOW.
This cost Southampton a huge amount of money that could have been spent helping businesses/people in Southampton.
Vote Tory in 2014 to give are children a better and honest future.
You are a typical example of everything that is wrong with our country, this stupid see-saw game Labour Vs Tory who gains from it nobody its like children in the playground only trouble is its a bit more serious. Everybody no matter what political persuasion should be looking at Southampton and Portsmouth and thinking of ways to benefit those areas rather than play silly games or name calling.
[quote][p][bold]aldermoorboy[/bold] wrote: In my view with Labour council are not capable of running anything. An example of this was cancelling the Tory deal with the IOW. This cost Southampton a huge amount of money that could have been spent helping businesses/people in Southampton. Vote Tory in 2014 to give are children a better and honest future.[/p][/quote]You are a typical example of everything that is wrong with our country, this stupid see-saw game Labour Vs Tory who gains from it nobody its like children in the playground only trouble is its a bit more serious. Everybody no matter what political persuasion should be looking at Southampton and Portsmouth and thinking of ways to benefit those areas rather than play silly games or name calling. ohec
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10:14am Mon 29 Oct 12

freefinker says...

ohec wrote:
aldermoorboy wrote:
In my view with Labour council are not capable of running anything.
An example of this was cancelling the Tory deal with the IOW.
This cost Southampton a huge amount of money that could have been spent helping businesses/people in Southampton.
Vote Tory in 2014 to give are children a better and honest future.
You are a typical example of everything that is wrong with our country, this stupid see-saw game Labour Vs Tory who gains from it nobody its like children in the playground only trouble is its a bit more serious. Everybody no matter what political persuasion should be looking at Southampton and Portsmouth and thinking of ways to benefit those areas rather than play silly games or name calling.
.. oh well said.

This petty bickering of the Red and Blue tribes helps neither the city nor the country – especially as in respect of political philosophy there’s not even a gnat’s crotchet of difference between them anymore.
[quote][p][bold]ohec[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]aldermoorboy[/bold] wrote: In my view with Labour council are not capable of running anything. An example of this was cancelling the Tory deal with the IOW. This cost Southampton a huge amount of money that could have been spent helping businesses/people in Southampton. Vote Tory in 2014 to give are children a better and honest future.[/p][/quote]You are a typical example of everything that is wrong with our country, this stupid see-saw game Labour Vs Tory who gains from it nobody its like children in the playground only trouble is its a bit more serious. Everybody no matter what political persuasion should be looking at Southampton and Portsmouth and thinking of ways to benefit those areas rather than play silly games or name calling.[/p][/quote].. oh well said. This petty bickering of the Red and Blue tribes helps neither the city nor the country – especially as in respect of political philosophy there’s not even a gnat’s crotchet of difference between them anymore. freefinker
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10:14am Mon 29 Oct 12

aldermoorboy says...

Yes ohec, but we want honest people leading us, not liars that have not got the guts to resign.
Yes ohec, but we want honest people leading us, not liars that have not got the guts to resign. aldermoorboy
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10:45am Mon 29 Oct 12

Over the Edge says...

aldermoorboy wrote:
In my view with Labour council are not capable of running anything.
An example of this was cancelling the Tory deal with the IOW.
This cost Southampton a huge amount of money that could have been spent helping businesses/people in Southampton.
Vote Tory in 2014 to give are children a better and honest future.
This isn't Royston vs Richard its about bringing much needed investment to both the major cities along on the South coast, even Roy would support it this the Labour attempts to get this funding.

Isn't there something else you could be doing today instead of playing the us and them game?
[quote][p][bold]aldermoorboy[/bold] wrote: In my view with Labour council are not capable of running anything. An example of this was cancelling the Tory deal with the IOW. This cost Southampton a huge amount of money that could have been spent helping businesses/people in Southampton. Vote Tory in 2014 to give are children a better and honest future.[/p][/quote]This isn't Royston vs Richard its about bringing much needed investment to both the major cities along on the South coast, even Roy would support it this the Labour attempts to get this funding. Isn't there something else you could be doing today instead of playing the us and them game? Over the Edge
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10:52am Mon 29 Oct 12

localnews says...

aldermoorboy wrote:
Yes ohec, but we want honest people leading us, not liars that have not got the guts to resign.
congratulations for pointing out the obvious,you have just put into words a perfect description of a politically motivated person....they're ALL liars
[quote][p][bold]aldermoorboy[/bold] wrote: Yes ohec, but we want honest people leading us, not liars that have not got the guts to resign.[/p][/quote]congratulations for pointing out the obvious,you have just put into words a perfect description of a politically motivated person....they're ALL liars localnews
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11:00am Mon 29 Oct 12

good-gosh says...

Over the Edge wrote:
aldermoorboy wrote:
In my view with Labour council are not capable of running anything.
An example of this was cancelling the Tory deal with the IOW.
This cost Southampton a huge amount of money that could have been spent helping businesses/people in Southampton.
Vote Tory in 2014 to give are children a better and honest future.
This isn't Royston vs Richard its about bringing much needed investment to both the major cities along on the South coast, even Roy would support it this the Labour attempts to get this funding.

Isn't there something else you could be doing today instead of playing the us and them game?
Oh yes, there is lots that can be done. Like criminalising party political interference in regional development and make it a TUC free zone, too.
[quote][p][bold]Over the Edge[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]aldermoorboy[/bold] wrote: In my view with Labour council are not capable of running anything. An example of this was cancelling the Tory deal with the IOW. This cost Southampton a huge amount of money that could have been spent helping businesses/people in Southampton. Vote Tory in 2014 to give are children a better and honest future.[/p][/quote]This isn't Royston vs Richard its about bringing much needed investment to both the major cities along on the South coast, even Roy would support it this the Labour attempts to get this funding. Isn't there something else you could be doing today instead of playing the us and them game?[/p][/quote]Oh yes, there is lots that can be done. Like criminalising party political interference in regional development and make it a TUC free zone, too. good-gosh
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11:08am Mon 29 Oct 12

The Wickham Man says...

Richard Williams can use this to fund his referendum to drive the new power plant out of the city and all the jobs it would have brought.
He hasn't yet got the hang of what "encouraging new employment " means, has he?
Richard Williams can use this to fund his referendum to drive the new power plant out of the city and all the jobs it would have brought. He hasn't yet got the hang of what "encouraging new employment " means, has he? The Wickham Man
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11:13am Mon 29 Oct 12

George4th says...

The politics of this will make a very interesting spectacle! What a Political Party mix from here to Portsmouth?!
The politics of this will make a very interesting spectacle! What a Political Party mix from here to Portsmouth?! George4th
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11:24am Mon 29 Oct 12

Paramjit Bahia says...

How nice of this minister to say few kind words about Ford workers who have lost their jobs.

But why neither him nor ConDem Coalition has told how many millions of public money was given to Ford just before they closed plants in Southampton and Deghnam.

Amazingly those who love moaning about unemployed on state benefits etc tend to go silent when super rich businesses like Fords are handed over millions from public purse. Are not they real parasite and ungrateful scroungers?
How nice of this minister to say few kind words about Ford workers who have lost their jobs. But why neither him nor ConDem Coalition has told how many millions of public money was given to Ford just before they closed plants in Southampton and Deghnam. Amazingly those who love moaning about unemployed on state benefits etc tend to go silent when super rich businesses like Fords are handed over millions from public purse. Are not they real parasite and ungrateful scroungers? Paramjit Bahia
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11:28am Mon 29 Oct 12

FoysCornerBoy says...

The Wickham Man wrote:
Richard Williams can use this to fund his referendum to drive the new power plant out of the city and all the jobs it would have brought.
He hasn't yet got the hang of what "encouraging new employment " means, has he?
You're behind the times. There will be no referendum to drive out the proposed biomass power plant out of the city and there are several sites in the wider Solent area for a range of power-generating employment opportunities (although, admittedly, none I'm aware of in Wickham).
[quote][p][bold]The Wickham Man[/bold] wrote: Richard Williams can use this to fund his referendum to drive the new power plant out of the city and all the jobs it would have brought. He hasn't yet got the hang of what "encouraging new employment " means, has he?[/p][/quote]You're behind the times. There will be no referendum to drive out the proposed biomass power plant out of the city and there are several sites in the wider Solent area for a range of power-generating employment opportunities (although, admittedly, none I'm aware of in Wickham). FoysCornerBoy
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12:12pm Mon 29 Oct 12

ohec says...

Paramjit Bahia wrote:
How nice of this minister to say few kind words about Ford workers who have lost their jobs.

But why neither him nor ConDem Coalition has told how many millions of public money was given to Ford just before they closed plants in Southampton and Deghnam.

Amazingly those who love moaning about unemployed on state benefits etc tend to go silent when super rich businesses like Fords are handed over millions from public purse. Are not they real parasite and ungrateful scroungers?
It could well be that the money was destined for the Bridgend plant or for development although Southampton is very important in our eyes its a very small fish in the grand scheme of things, Dagenham was Fords in every respect if you didn't work at Fords another family member did indeed whole families worked there. Fords got too big for their own good buying up other companies in an effort to be global masters but it all went sour, so they went on a mass saving scheme selling companies for a fraction of what they cost them and then looking to reduce costs and capacity and the U.K was on its hit list, many years of union trouble ensured that.
Both Labour and Tory governments have poured huge amounts of money into the motor industry in an effort to secure jobs but at the end of the day Fords will go where they can get the job done on the cheap but when / if Turkey joins the E.U. things could change a lot and Fords will look for another home.
[quote][p][bold]Paramjit Bahia[/bold] wrote: How nice of this minister to say few kind words about Ford workers who have lost their jobs. But why neither him nor ConDem Coalition has told how many millions of public money was given to Ford just before they closed plants in Southampton and Deghnam. Amazingly those who love moaning about unemployed on state benefits etc tend to go silent when super rich businesses like Fords are handed over millions from public purse. Are not they real parasite and ungrateful scroungers?[/p][/quote]It could well be that the money was destined for the Bridgend plant or for development although Southampton is very important in our eyes its a very small fish in the grand scheme of things, Dagenham was Fords in every respect if you didn't work at Fords another family member did indeed whole families worked there. Fords got too big for their own good buying up other companies in an effort to be global masters but it all went sour, so they went on a mass saving scheme selling companies for a fraction of what they cost them and then looking to reduce costs and capacity and the U.K was on its hit list, many years of union trouble ensured that. Both Labour and Tory governments have poured huge amounts of money into the motor industry in an effort to secure jobs but at the end of the day Fords will go where they can get the job done on the cheap but when / if Turkey joins the E.U. things could change a lot and Fords will look for another home. ohec
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12:42pm Mon 29 Oct 12

Subject48 says...

More power to local governments sounds good.

More efficient decision making and understanding of local problems, should, (theoreticaly at least) lead to better solutions for the economical problems we face.

But there needs to be more accountability in local as well as national politics , so local regions dont suffer as result of petty politics and PR stunts. Because lets face it, at the moment there is none.
More power to local governments sounds good. More efficient decision making and understanding of local problems, should, (theoreticaly at least) lead to better solutions for the economical problems we face. But there needs to be more accountability in local as well as national politics , so local regions dont suffer as result of petty politics and PR stunts. Because lets face it, at the moment there is none. Subject48
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2:56pm Mon 29 Oct 12

The Wickham Man says...

FoysCornerBoy wrote:
The Wickham Man wrote:
Richard Williams can use this to fund his referendum to drive the new power plant out of the city and all the jobs it would have brought.
He hasn't yet got the hang of what "encouraging new employment " means, has he?
You're behind the times. There will be no referendum to drive out the proposed biomass power plant out of the city and there are several sites in the wider Solent area for a range of power-generating employment opportunities (although, admittedly, none I'm aware of in Wickham).
Yes but none of these other sites mentioned by people on these pages are suitable. How can you think that the choice of site has not been very carefully slected from a range of thousands of criteria, most of which have not even occurred to the "experts" on here. End result? No jobs. No employment, no prospects. Just like Dibden Bay - all gone, then something else closes down like RAF Hythe and the local Nimby councillors look callous and stupid in their hollow "victory". Just like this council will look when Helius pull out and leave a big fat nothing where future prospects used to be. The next generation suffer because of the stupid Nimby grandparents.
[quote][p][bold]FoysCornerBoy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Wickham Man[/bold] wrote: Richard Williams can use this to fund his referendum to drive the new power plant out of the city and all the jobs it would have brought. He hasn't yet got the hang of what "encouraging new employment " means, has he?[/p][/quote]You're behind the times. There will be no referendum to drive out the proposed biomass power plant out of the city and there are several sites in the wider Solent area for a range of power-generating employment opportunities (although, admittedly, none I'm aware of in Wickham).[/p][/quote]Yes but none of these other sites mentioned by people on these pages are suitable. How can you think that the choice of site has not been very carefully slected from a range of thousands of criteria, most of which have not even occurred to the "experts" on here. End result? No jobs. No employment, no prospects. Just like Dibden Bay - all gone, then something else closes down like RAF Hythe and the local Nimby councillors look callous and stupid in their hollow "victory". Just like this council will look when Helius pull out and leave a big fat nothing where future prospects used to be. The next generation suffer because of the stupid Nimby grandparents. The Wickham Man
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3:40pm Mon 29 Oct 12

loosehead says...

I wonder if this could be the first step towards Solent City?
when I was at school they talked about it & that was over 30 years ago.
Will Williams be able to come to a sensible deal between our Labour run council & Portsmouth's Liberal council?
I earn enough not to work but I hope the two cities can work together on this?
If they can't make an agreement will Williams blame the last Tory Council or the Portsmouth Liberal council ?
It will be interesting to see.
Snow dome would have brought work to this city but he scrapped it so let's see?
I wonder if this could be the first step towards Solent City? when I was at school they talked about it & that was over 30 years ago. Will Williams be able to come to a sensible deal between our Labour run council & Portsmouth's Liberal council? I earn enough not to work but I hope the two cities can work together on this? If they can't make an agreement will Williams blame the last Tory Council or the Portsmouth Liberal council ? It will be interesting to see. Snow dome would have brought work to this city but he scrapped it so let's see? loosehead
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8:44pm Mon 29 Oct 12

Linesman says...

aldermoorboy wrote:
In my view with Labour council are not capable of running anything.
An example of this was cancelling the Tory deal with the IOW.
This cost Southampton a huge amount of money that could have been spent helping businesses/people in Southampton.
Vote Tory in 2014 to give are children a better and honest future.
The only consistent policy that Cameron has followed in the past couple of years is the policy of the U-Turn.

Announces policies without thinking them through, or apparently without consultation, and has a change of mind a day or so later.
[quote][p][bold]aldermoorboy[/bold] wrote: In my view with Labour council are not capable of running anything. An example of this was cancelling the Tory deal with the IOW. This cost Southampton a huge amount of money that could have been spent helping businesses/people in Southampton. Vote Tory in 2014 to give are children a better and honest future.[/p][/quote]The only consistent policy that Cameron has followed in the past couple of years is the policy of the U-Turn. Announces policies without thinking them through, or apparently without consultation, and has a change of mind a day or so later. Linesman
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8:47pm Mon 29 Oct 12

Linesman says...

loosehead wrote:
I wonder if this could be the first step towards Solent City?
when I was at school they talked about it & that was over 30 years ago.
Will Williams be able to come to a sensible deal between our Labour run council & Portsmouth's Liberal council?
I earn enough not to work but I hope the two cities can work together on this?
If they can't make an agreement will Williams blame the last Tory Council or the Portsmouth Liberal council ?
It will be interesting to see.
Snow dome would have brought work to this city but he scrapped it so let's see?
Why not? Cameron is still blaming the last government for the mess that he is making of running the country.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: I wonder if this could be the first step towards Solent City? when I was at school they talked about it & that was over 30 years ago. Will Williams be able to come to a sensible deal between our Labour run council & Portsmouth's Liberal council? I earn enough not to work but I hope the two cities can work together on this? If they can't make an agreement will Williams blame the last Tory Council or the Portsmouth Liberal council ? It will be interesting to see. Snow dome would have brought work to this city but he scrapped it so let's see?[/p][/quote]Why not? Cameron is still blaming the last government for the mess that he is making of running the country. Linesman
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9:18pm Mon 29 Oct 12

loosehead says...

Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
I wonder if this could be the first step towards Solent City?
when I was at school they talked about it & that was over 30 years ago.
Will Williams be able to come to a sensible deal between our Labour run council & Portsmouth's Liberal council?
I earn enough not to work but I hope the two cities can work together on this?
If they can't make an agreement will Williams blame the last Tory Council or the Portsmouth Liberal council ?
It will be interesting to see.
Snow dome would have brought work to this city but he scrapped it so let's see?
Why not? Cameron is still blaming the last government for the mess that he is making of running the country.
I watched Williams on ITV tonight & congratulate him for praising the Governments quick action on this subject .
did you See Williams on the telly?
Linesman when will you listen to you're ex leader & your new leader & all the old cabinet members when they openly admit to their part in the financial crisis & their spending on projects money the country never had so putting us deeper in debt?
You make me out to be blinkered but I've just congratulated you council leader for giving praise where it's deserved now why don't you put the blame where it's deserved?
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: I wonder if this could be the first step towards Solent City? when I was at school they talked about it & that was over 30 years ago. Will Williams be able to come to a sensible deal between our Labour run council & Portsmouth's Liberal council? I earn enough not to work but I hope the two cities can work together on this? If they can't make an agreement will Williams blame the last Tory Council or the Portsmouth Liberal council ? It will be interesting to see. Snow dome would have brought work to this city but he scrapped it so let's see?[/p][/quote]Why not? Cameron is still blaming the last government for the mess that he is making of running the country.[/p][/quote]I watched Williams on ITV tonight & congratulate him for praising the Governments quick action on this subject . did you See Williams on the telly? Linesman when will you listen to you're ex leader & your new leader & all the old cabinet members when they openly admit to their part in the financial crisis & their spending on projects money the country never had so putting us deeper in debt? You make me out to be blinkered but I've just congratulated you council leader for giving praise where it's deserved now why don't you put the blame where it's deserved? loosehead
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11:09pm Mon 29 Oct 12

Linesman says...

loosehead wrote:
Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
I wonder if this could be the first step towards Solent City?
when I was at school they talked about it & that was over 30 years ago.
Will Williams be able to come to a sensible deal between our Labour run council & Portsmouth's Liberal council?
I earn enough not to work but I hope the two cities can work together on this?
If they can't make an agreement will Williams blame the last Tory Council or the Portsmouth Liberal council ?
It will be interesting to see.
Snow dome would have brought work to this city but he scrapped it so let's see?
Why not? Cameron is still blaming the last government for the mess that he is making of running the country.
I watched Williams on ITV tonight & congratulate him for praising the Governments quick action on this subject .
did you See Williams on the telly?
Linesman when will you listen to you're ex leader & your new leader & all the old cabinet members when they openly admit to their part in the financial crisis & their spending on projects money the country never had so putting us deeper in debt?
You make me out to be blinkered but I've just congratulated you council leader for giving praise where it's deserved now why don't you put the blame where it's deserved?
So you want a word of praise from Pond Scum because a Labour councillor congratulates a Tory for prompt action?

No, I did not see Williams on TV this evening, but can quite understand him giving credit where credit is due.

If you were to sort the wheat from the chaff of what the ex-Labour leader has said, you would understand that the borrowing was done to invest in growth. Something that is quite common for both governments and businesses.

What they were not able to foresee, nor any other government for that matter, was the collapse in International banking. Something that had its beginnings in the USA.

The action that they took to protect British Banks, Building Societies and Councils that had invested in Icelandic Banks also took money. This prompt action put Britain in a better position to ride out the financial storm than virtually every other European country.

What alternative policy did Cameron and Clegg offer at the time?

Perhaps you would answer that one, because I seem to recall a deafening silence on the subject from the opposition benches.

What action have the current government taken to deal with the problem?

Borrow more and put more people out of work and financially hit those that are most in need of help.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: I wonder if this could be the first step towards Solent City? when I was at school they talked about it & that was over 30 years ago. Will Williams be able to come to a sensible deal between our Labour run council & Portsmouth's Liberal council? I earn enough not to work but I hope the two cities can work together on this? If they can't make an agreement will Williams blame the last Tory Council or the Portsmouth Liberal council ? It will be interesting to see. Snow dome would have brought work to this city but he scrapped it so let's see?[/p][/quote]Why not? Cameron is still blaming the last government for the mess that he is making of running the country.[/p][/quote]I watched Williams on ITV tonight & congratulate him for praising the Governments quick action on this subject . did you See Williams on the telly? Linesman when will you listen to you're ex leader & your new leader & all the old cabinet members when they openly admit to their part in the financial crisis & their spending on projects money the country never had so putting us deeper in debt? You make me out to be blinkered but I've just congratulated you council leader for giving praise where it's deserved now why don't you put the blame where it's deserved?[/p][/quote]So you want a word of praise from Pond Scum because a Labour councillor congratulates a Tory for prompt action? No, I did not see Williams on TV this evening, but can quite understand him giving credit where credit is due. If you were to sort the wheat from the chaff of what the ex-Labour leader has said, you would understand that the borrowing was done to invest in growth. Something that is quite common for both governments and businesses. What they were not able to foresee, nor any other government for that matter, was the collapse in International banking. Something that had its beginnings in the USA. The action that they took to protect British Banks, Building Societies and Councils that had invested in Icelandic Banks also took money. This prompt action put Britain in a better position to ride out the financial storm than virtually every other European country. What alternative policy did Cameron and Clegg offer at the time? Perhaps you would answer that one, because I seem to recall a deafening silence on the subject from the opposition benches. What action have the current government taken to deal with the problem? Borrow more and put more people out of work and financially hit those that are most in need of help. Linesman
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2:47am Tue 30 Oct 12

FoysCornerBoy says...

The Wickham Man wrote:
FoysCornerBoy wrote:
The Wickham Man wrote:
Richard Williams can use this to fund his referendum to drive the new power plant out of the city and all the jobs it would have brought.
He hasn't yet got the hang of what "encouraging new employment " means, has he?
You're behind the times. There will be no referendum to drive out the proposed biomass power plant out of the city and there are several sites in the wider Solent area for a range of power-generating employment opportunities (although, admittedly, none I'm aware of in Wickham).
Yes but none of these other sites mentioned by people on these pages are suitable. How can you think that the choice of site has not been very carefully slected from a range of thousands of criteria, most of which have not even occurred to the "experts" on here. End result? No jobs. No employment, no prospects. Just like Dibden Bay - all gone, then something else closes down like RAF Hythe and the local Nimby councillors look callous and stupid in their hollow "victory". Just like this council will look when Helius pull out and leave a big fat nothing where future prospects used to be. The next generation suffer because of the stupid Nimby grandparents.
FMOB. I'm probably with you all the way on anti-NIMBY'ism. I just can't stand those who live in places like Dibden and Wickham lecturing us who live in and love Southampton about our local priorities. Helius have failed to convince me about the lack of suitable alternative sites in the Solent region and I wonder if they really looked hard enough. Admittedly I'm no technical expert but I do pay my local taxes and should be entitled to a say.
[quote][p][bold]The Wickham Man[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]FoysCornerBoy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Wickham Man[/bold] wrote: Richard Williams can use this to fund his referendum to drive the new power plant out of the city and all the jobs it would have brought. He hasn't yet got the hang of what "encouraging new employment " means, has he?[/p][/quote]You're behind the times. There will be no referendum to drive out the proposed biomass power plant out of the city and there are several sites in the wider Solent area for a range of power-generating employment opportunities (although, admittedly, none I'm aware of in Wickham).[/p][/quote]Yes but none of these other sites mentioned by people on these pages are suitable. How can you think that the choice of site has not been very carefully slected from a range of thousands of criteria, most of which have not even occurred to the "experts" on here. End result? No jobs. No employment, no prospects. Just like Dibden Bay - all gone, then something else closes down like RAF Hythe and the local Nimby councillors look callous and stupid in their hollow "victory". Just like this council will look when Helius pull out and leave a big fat nothing where future prospects used to be. The next generation suffer because of the stupid Nimby grandparents.[/p][/quote]FMOB. I'm probably with you all the way on anti-NIMBY'ism. I just can't stand those who live in places like Dibden and Wickham lecturing us who live in and love Southampton about our local priorities. Helius have failed to convince me about the lack of suitable alternative sites in the Solent region and I wonder if they really looked hard enough. Admittedly I'm no technical expert but I do pay my local taxes and should be entitled to a say. FoysCornerBoy
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