Car ploughs through garden wall (From Daily Echo)
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Car ploughs through garden wall in Southampton
5:27pm Wednesday 31st October 2012 in News
By Tara Russell, News Reporter
Damage to the garden wall
A CAR has smashed through a wall in Southampton, knocking over a pensioner in the process.
The black Ford Focus went through the wall in Luccombe Road in Upper Shirley.
The driver, a 71-year-old woman, told police she had mistakenly put her car into reverse, but in doing so the car collided with a 73-year-old man, thought to be her husband, as he was getting into the front passenger seat.
The car also collided with a silver Renault Trafic van, as well as the garden wall.
Both police officers and paramedics are on the scene.
An ambulance spokesman said they are treating two patients and have one ambulance at the scene.
The extent of the couple's injuries are unknown, she added.
Their car is registered in Cwmbran in Gwent.
The call came in at 3.46pm and a Hampshire Constabulary spokesman said officers are awaiting recovery of the vehicles.
One Daily Echo reader, who did not want to be named, said: “In all the years I have lived here I have never seen anything quite like it. The car has gone through a curved garden wall at 45 degrees. The driver must have been going at some force. It looks quite horrific.”
Comments(27)
sotonbusdriver
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6:20pm Wed 31 Oct 12
I hope that both those involved are ok, and nothing seriously damaged health wise....
As IronLady2010 says brickwalls are just bricks, and insurance will soon cough up to rebuilt that..
Donald2000
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8:21pm Wed 31 Oct 12
sotonbusdriver wrote:Thanks. This ignores the very substantial empirical evidence that most accidents happen to very much younger drivers. And as for your remark about the modern car I am going to ignore that, having been a professional driver involved in driving Jaguars, Rolls Royces and other similar high performance cars.
Brings in to question whether those over 65 need to have a yearly re-test to ensure they are safe to drive, the modern powerful cars...
I hope that both those involved are ok, and nothing seriously damaged health wise....
As IronLady2010 says brickwalls are just bricks, and insurance will soon cough up to rebuilt that..
You are also ignoring the fact that there is a wide variety of driving ability under the age of 65; therefore your remarks are out of order and quite simply ageist. All based on one accident your "facts" simply dont stack up.
cantthinkofone
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8:44pm Wed 31 Oct 12
Donald2000 wrote:Can't do anything but agree with every word of that Donald.
sotonbusdriver wrote:Thanks. This ignores the very substantial empirical evidence that most accidents happen to very much younger drivers. And as for your remark about the modern car I am going to ignore that, having been a professional driver involved in driving Jaguars, Rolls Royces and other similar high performance cars.
Brings in to question whether those over 65 need to have a yearly re-test to ensure they are safe to drive, the modern powerful cars...
I hope that both those involved are ok, and nothing seriously damaged health wise....
As IronLady2010 says brickwalls are just bricks, and insurance will soon cough up to rebuilt that..
You are also ignoring the fact that there is a wide variety of driving ability under the age of 65; therefore your remarks are out of order and quite simply ageist. All based on one accident your "facts" simply dont stack up.
I know some incredibly dappy people in their 20s and 30s that struggle to do their velcro up the right way, yet have driving licenses. I also know some people in their 60s and 70s that are sharp as a tack, and seem praeternaturally aware of their surroundings and other road users whilst driving.
skin2000
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9:36pm Wed 31 Oct 12
IronLady2010 wrote:Interesting observations and analysis.
Ouch, that looks like it was one heck of a whack. Hope the Gentleman is ok and of course the driver. The wall can be replaced!
IronLady2010
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9:41pm Wed 31 Oct 12
skin2000 wrote:It is, isn't it. Glad you found it interesting.
IronLady2010 wrote:Interesting observations and analysis.
Ouch, that looks like it was one heck of a whack. Hope the Gentleman is ok and of course the driver. The wall can be replaced!
cantthinkofone
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9:43pm Wed 31 Oct 12
skin2000 wrote:Interesting commentary on the previous observations and analysis.
IronLady2010 wrote:Interesting observations and analysis.
Ouch, that looks like it was one heck of a whack. Hope the Gentleman is ok and of course the driver. The wall can be replaced!
Ginger_cyclist
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9:47pm Wed 31 Oct 12
cantthinkofone wrote:I agree with this, I also sometimes wonder how some of the local kids pass their CBT's because most don't seem to be able to even pull their trousers up, tie shoe laces or speak properly in a way people can understand.
Donald2000 wrote:Can't do anything but agree with every word of that Donald.
sotonbusdriver wrote:Thanks. This ignores the very substantial empirical evidence that most accidents happen to very much younger drivers. And as for your remark about the modern car I am going to ignore that, having been a professional driver involved in driving Jaguars, Rolls Royces and other similar high performance cars.
Brings in to question whether those over 65 need to have a yearly re-test to ensure they are safe to drive, the modern powerful cars...
I hope that both those involved are ok, and nothing seriously damaged health wise....
As IronLady2010 says brickwalls are just bricks, and insurance will soon cough up to rebuilt that..
You are also ignoring the fact that there is a wide variety of driving ability under the age of 65; therefore your remarks are out of order and quite simply ageist. All based on one accident your "facts" simply dont stack up.
I know some incredibly dappy people in their 20s and 30s that struggle to do their velcro up the right way, yet have driving licenses. I also know some people in their 60s and 70s that are sharp as a tack, and seem praeternaturally aware of their surroundings and other road users whilst driving.
IronLady2010
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9:52pm Wed 31 Oct 12
He was not drunk, he just made a simple error. It took a few days before they all laughed about it mind.
skin2000
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9:55pm Wed 31 Oct 12
cantthinkofone wrote:Thank you.
skin2000 wrote:Interesting commentary on the previous observations and analysis.
IronLady2010 wrote:Interesting observations and analysis.
Ouch, that looks like it was one heck of a whack. Hope the Gentleman is ok and of course the driver. The wall can be replaced!
Huffter
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10:17pm Wed 31 Oct 12
cantthinkofone wrote:Sensible thing would be to re-test ALL drivers at regular intervals... a one-off test for life is not adequate.
Donald2000 wrote:Can't do anything but agree with every word of that Donald. I know some incredibly dappy people in their 20s and 30s that struggle to do their velcro up the right way, yet have driving licenses. I also know some people in their 60s and 70s that are sharp as a tack, and seem praeternaturally aware of their surroundings and other road users whilst driving.sotonbusdriver wrote: Brings in to question whether those over 65 need to have a yearly re-test to ensure they are safe to drive, the modern powerful cars... I hope that both those involved are ok, and nothing seriously damaged health wise.... As IronLady2010 says brickwalls are just bricks, and insurance will soon cough up to rebuilt that..Thanks. This ignores the very substantial empirical evidence that most accidents happen to very much younger drivers. And as for your remark about the modern car I am going to ignore that, having been a professional driver involved in driving Jaguars, Rolls Royces and other similar high performance cars. You are also ignoring the fact that there is a wide variety of driving ability under the age of 65; therefore your remarks are out of order and quite simply ageist. All based on one accident your "facts" simply dont stack up.
Georgem
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10:22pm Wed 31 Oct 12
Donald2000 wrote:Ignores the fact that two things can be true at once. Younger drivers have more accidents, but does that now cancel out any other reasons for accidents?
sotonbusdriver wrote:Thanks. This ignores the very substantial empirical evidence that most accidents happen to very much younger drivers. And as for your remark about the modern car I am going to ignore that, having been a professional driver involved in driving Jaguars, Rolls Royces and other similar high performance cars.
Brings in to question whether those over 65 need to have a yearly re-test to ensure they are safe to drive, the modern powerful cars...
I hope that both those involved are ok, and nothing seriously damaged health wise....
As IronLady2010 says brickwalls are just bricks, and insurance will soon cough up to rebuilt that..
You are also ignoring the fact that there is a wide variety of driving ability under the age of 65; therefore your remarks are out of order and quite simply ageist. All based on one accident your "facts" simply dont stack up.
The amount of confirmation bias on these comment boards is amazing. It's like there's a competition to put as little thought into things as possible.
Georgem
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10:23pm Wed 31 Oct 12
Ginger_cyclist
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10:29pm Wed 31 Oct 12
Huffter wrote:Like they already do for motorcyclists who ride on just a provisional licence after taking their CBT, they have to retake the CBT every 2 years or get a full motorcycle licence.
cantthinkofone wrote:Sensible thing would be to re-test ALL drivers at regular intervals... a one-off test for life is not adequate.
Donald2000 wrote:Can't do anything but agree with every word of that Donald. I know some incredibly dappy people in their 20s and 30s that struggle to do their velcro up the right way, yet have driving licenses. I also know some people in their 60s and 70s that are sharp as a tack, and seem praeternaturally aware of their surroundings and other road users whilst driving.sotonbusdriver wrote: Brings in to question whether those over 65 need to have a yearly re-test to ensure they are safe to drive, the modern powerful cars... I hope that both those involved are ok, and nothing seriously damaged health wise.... As IronLady2010 says brickwalls are just bricks, and insurance will soon cough up to rebuilt that..Thanks. This ignores the very substantial empirical evidence that most accidents happen to very much younger drivers. And as for your remark about the modern car I am going to ignore that, having been a professional driver involved in driving Jaguars, Rolls Royces and other similar high performance cars. You are also ignoring the fact that there is a wide variety of driving ability under the age of 65; therefore your remarks are out of order and quite simply ageist. All based on one accident your "facts" simply dont stack up.
IronLady2010
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10:30pm Wed 31 Oct 12
Georgem wrote:I was simply giving an alternate example. As I have said, it can happen to anyone ;-)
Brilliant. Senior citizen reverses car into husband and house, and the Echo morons take the opportunity to have a pop at younger drivers. What a bunch of idiots.
Ginger_cyclist
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10:32pm Wed 31 Oct 12
Georgem wrote:I only took a pop at the ones I've witnessed driving or riding recklessly, such as a moped rider a few years ago who decided to pop a 5mph wheelie past a bus stop outside Southampton Common in slow moving traffic.
Brilliant. Senior citizen reverses car into husband and house, and the Echo morons take the opportunity to have a pop at younger drivers. What a bunch of idiots.
Georgem
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10:34pm Wed 31 Oct 12
Ginger_cyclist wrote:I don't give a toss what anecdotes you want to spew. Your posting history is about 92% complaints about random car drivers whenever a story remotely related to transport comes up, and 8% basic logical fallacies.
Georgem wrote:I only took a pop at the ones I've witnessed driving or riding recklessly, such as a moped rider a few years ago who decided to pop a 5mph wheelie past a bus stop outside Southampton Common in slow moving traffic.
Brilliant. Senior citizen reverses car into husband and house, and the Echo morons take the opportunity to have a pop at younger drivers. What a bunch of idiots.
Go on. Tell us yet another story about a van driver who once tried to kill you, or something. We're all ears.
Georgem
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10:35pm Wed 31 Oct 12
IronLady2010 wrote:I wasn't referring to you, IL !
Georgem wrote:I was simply giving an alternate example. As I have said, it can happen to anyone ;-)
Brilliant. Senior citizen reverses car into husband and house, and the Echo morons take the opportunity to have a pop at younger drivers. What a bunch of idiots.
Ginger_cyclist
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10:47pm Wed 31 Oct 12
Georgem wrote:Nah, I'll let you watch instead.
Ginger_cyclist wrote:I don't give a toss what anecdotes you want to spew. Your posting history is about 92% complaints about random car drivers whenever a story remotely related to transport comes up, and 8% basic logical fallacies.
Georgem wrote:I only took a pop at the ones I've witnessed driving or riding recklessly, such as a moped rider a few years ago who decided to pop a 5mph wheelie past a bus stop outside Southampton Common in slow moving traffic.
Brilliant. Senior citizen reverses car into husband and house, and the Echo morons take the opportunity to have a pop at younger drivers. What a bunch of idiots.
Go on. Tell us yet another story about a van driver who once tried to kill you, or something. We're all ears.
http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=eTU_CjnUA
4w&feature=plcp
Georgem
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10:58pm Wed 31 Oct 12
Ginger_cyclist wrote:I'm not going to watch it. Save yourself the bother.
Georgem wrote:Nah, I'll let you watch instead.
Ginger_cyclist wrote:I don't give a toss what anecdotes you want to spew. Your posting history is about 92% complaints about random car drivers whenever a story remotely related to transport comes up, and 8% basic logical fallacies.
Georgem wrote:I only took a pop at the ones I've witnessed driving or riding recklessly, such as a moped rider a few years ago who decided to pop a 5mph wheelie past a bus stop outside Southampton Common in slow moving traffic.
Brilliant. Senior citizen reverses car into husband and house, and the Echo morons take the opportunity to have a pop at younger drivers. What a bunch of idiots.
Go on. Tell us yet another story about a van driver who once tried to kill you, or something. We're all ears.
http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=eTU_CjnUA
4w&feature=plcp
Ginger_cyclist
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11:00pm Wed 31 Oct 12
Georgem wrote:Suppose you won't want to see me be a good little cyclist either then.
Ginger_cyclist wrote:I'm not going to watch it. Save yourself the bother.
Georgem wrote:Nah, I'll let you watch instead.
Ginger_cyclist wrote:I don't give a toss what anecdotes you want to spew. Your posting history is about 92% complaints about random car drivers whenever a story remotely related to transport comes up, and 8% basic logical fallacies.
Georgem wrote:I only took a pop at the ones I've witnessed driving or riding recklessly, such as a moped rider a few years ago who decided to pop a 5mph wheelie past a bus stop outside Southampton Common in slow moving traffic.
Brilliant. Senior citizen reverses car into husband and house, and the Echo morons take the opportunity to have a pop at younger drivers. What a bunch of idiots.
Go on. Tell us yet another story about a van driver who once tried to kill you, or something. We're all ears.
http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=eTU_CjnUA
4w&feature=plcp
st1halo
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11:27pm Wed 31 Oct 12
Huffter wrote:Makes sense!!!
cantthinkofone wrote:Sensible thing would be to re-test ALL drivers at regular intervals... a one-off test for life is not adequate.
Donald2000 wrote:Can't do anything but agree with every word of that Donald. I know some incredibly dappy people in their 20s and 30s that struggle to do their velcro up the right way, yet have driving licenses. I also know some people in their 60s and 70s that are sharp as a tack, and seem praeternaturally aware of their surroundings and other road users whilst driving.sotonbusdriver wrote: Brings in to question whether those over 65 need to have a yearly re-test to ensure they are safe to drive, the modern powerful cars... I hope that both those involved are ok, and nothing seriously damaged health wise.... As IronLady2010 says brickwalls are just bricks, and insurance will soon cough up to rebuilt that..Thanks. This ignores the very substantial empirical evidence that most accidents happen to very much younger drivers. And as for your remark about the modern car I am going to ignore that, having been a professional driver involved in driving Jaguars, Rolls Royces and other similar high performance cars. You are also ignoring the fact that there is a wide variety of driving ability under the age of 65; therefore your remarks are out of order and quite simply ageist. All based on one accident your "facts" simply dont stack up.
One old dear has a bad day with her gear stick and now 40 million people should have a test every few years
Not a driving test examiner by any chance are you ??
Huffter
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7:29am Thu 1 Nov 12
st1halo wrote:No. And I'm not saying that because of one incident... there are rather a lot of deaths due to bad driving and it makes sense for all drivers to be re-tested regularly. After all, if you work in the food industry, you have to retake your food hygiene certificate every three years; same with health and safety and first aid certificates.
Huffter wrote:Makes sense!!! One old dear has a bad day with her gear stick and now 40 million people should have a test every few years Not a driving test examiner by any chance are you ??cantthinkofone wrote:Sensible thing would be to re-test ALL drivers at regular intervals... a one-off test for life is not adequate.Donald2000 wrote:Can't do anything but agree with every word of that Donald. I know some incredibly dappy people in their 20s and 30s that struggle to do their velcro up the right way, yet have driving licenses. I also know some people in their 60s and 70s that are sharp as a tack, and seem praeternaturally aware of their surroundings and other road users whilst driving.sotonbusdriver wrote: Brings in to question whether those over 65 need to have a yearly re-test to ensure they are safe to drive, the modern powerful cars... I hope that both those involved are ok, and nothing seriously damaged health wise.... As IronLady2010 says brickwalls are just bricks, and insurance will soon cough up to rebuilt that..Thanks. This ignores the very substantial empirical evidence that most accidents happen to very much younger drivers. And as for your remark about the modern car I am going to ignore that, having been a professional driver involved in driving Jaguars, Rolls Royces and other similar high performance cars. You are also ignoring the fact that there is a wide variety of driving ability under the age of 65; therefore your remarks are out of order and quite simply ageist. All based on one accident your "facts" simply dont stack up.
rudolph_hucker
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10:03am Thu 1 Nov 12
This would never have happened in a manual.
st1halo
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12:18pm Thu 1 Nov 12
Huffter wrote:If its a FREE test you are suggesting then I am not so bothered. Otherwise forget it, all politicians know how much we depend on our cars these days and they will exploit that to the maximum, You would be constantly held to ransom by the government of the day so, for me the system is fine as it is, You will never eradicate road related deaths and accidents and we throw away more than enough money trying to do so. You might as well spend money trying to stop the earth spinning!
st1halo wrote:No. And I'm not saying that because of one incident... there are rather a lot of deaths due to bad driving and it makes sense for all drivers to be re-tested regularly. After all, if you work in the food industry, you have to retake your food hygiene certificate every three years; same with health and safety and first aid certificates.
Huffter wrote:Makes sense!!! One old dear has a bad day with her gear stick and now 40 million people should have a test every few years Not a driving test examiner by any chance are you ??cantthinkofone wrote:Sensible thing would be to re-test ALL drivers at regular intervals... a one-off test for life is not adequate.Donald2000 wrote:Can't do anything but agree with every word of that Donald. I know some incredibly dappy people in their 20s and 30s that struggle to do their velcro up the right way, yet have driving licenses. I also know some people in their 60s and 70s that are sharp as a tack, and seem praeternaturally aware of their surroundings and other road users whilst driving.sotonbusdriver wrote: Brings in to question whether those over 65 need to have a yearly re-test to ensure they are safe to drive, the modern powerful cars... I hope that both those involved are ok, and nothing seriously damaged health wise.... As IronLady2010 says brickwalls are just bricks, and insurance will soon cough up to rebuilt that..Thanks. This ignores the very substantial empirical evidence that most accidents happen to very much younger drivers. And as for your remark about the modern car I am going to ignore that, having been a professional driver involved in driving Jaguars, Rolls Royces and other similar high performance cars. You are also ignoring the fact that there is a wide variety of driving ability under the age of 65; therefore your remarks are out of order and quite simply ageist. All based on one accident your "facts" simply dont stack up.
Georgem
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2:17pm Thu 1 Nov 12
rudolph_hucker wrote:I own an automatic, and I have never reversed into a wall. Your move.
Ban automatics so idiots (of any age) don't get confused by highly complicated arrangement of TWO PEDALS, which seemingly blows some folk's minds.
This would never have happened in a manual.
Georgem
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2:18pm Thu 1 Nov 12
st1halo wrote:It's not going to be a free test, though, is it? Unless the examiners are going to give their time for free, and the printers are going to print the forms for free, and so on and so on. It will cost. If the person sitting the test isn't paying directly, then we all pay for it, collectively.
Huffter wrote:If its a FREE test you are suggesting then I am not so bothered. Otherwise forget it, all politicians know how much we depend on our cars these days and they will exploit that to the maximum, You would be constantly held to ransom by the government of the day so, for me the system is fine as it is, You will never eradicate road related deaths and accidents and we throw away more than enough money trying to do so. You might as well spend money trying to stop the earth spinning!
st1halo wrote:No. And I'm not saying that because of one incident... there are rather a lot of deaths due to bad driving and it makes sense for all drivers to be re-tested regularly. After all, if you work in the food industry, you have to retake your food hygiene certificate every three years; same with health and safety and first aid certificates.
Huffter wrote:Makes sense!!! One old dear has a bad day with her gear stick and now 40 million people should have a test every few years Not a driving test examiner by any chance are you ??cantthinkofone wrote:Sensible thing would be to re-test ALL drivers at regular intervals... a one-off test for life is not adequate.Donald2000 wrote:Can't do anything but agree with every word of that Donald. I know some incredibly dappy people in their 20s and 30s that struggle to do their velcro up the right way, yet have driving licenses. I also know some people in their 60s and 70s that are sharp as a tack, and seem praeternaturally aware of their surroundings and other road users whilst driving.sotonbusdriver wrote: Brings in to question whether those over 65 need to have a yearly re-test to ensure they are safe to drive, the modern powerful cars... I hope that both those involved are ok, and nothing seriously damaged health wise.... As IronLady2010 says brickwalls are just bricks, and insurance will soon cough up to rebuilt that..Thanks. This ignores the very substantial empirical evidence that most accidents happen to very much younger drivers. And as for your remark about the modern car I am going to ignore that, having been a professional driver involved in driving Jaguars, Rolls Royces and other similar high performance cars. You are also ignoring the fact that there is a wide variety of driving ability under the age of 65; therefore your remarks are out of order and quite simply ageist. All based on one accident your "facts" simply dont stack up.
IronLady2010 says...
5:54pm Wed 31 Oct 12