Sustrans to honour famous Sotonians with 'statues' on Southampton cycle route

Daily Echo: Famous Sotonians to be honoured with 'statues' Famous Sotonians to be honoured with 'statues'

HAVE you ever fancied pulling up a seat alongside a legendary Saints player, the man who created the aircraft which helped win the Battle of Britain or one of the most widely read writers in English literature?

Now it’s possible thanks to green charity Sustrans, which is funding a new £5,000 art sculpture.

Famous figures from Southampton’s past and present are to be immortalised in three life-sized statues in the city centre.

And it is up to Daily Echo readers to choose the three people they want to see sculpted out of sheet steel and installed behind a “portrait bench”.

The two-dimensional figures will sit at Horseshoe Bridge on the £1m boardwalk in St Deny’s along the River Itchen by the railway line.

Sustainable transport organisation Sustrans has been given the cash as part of a national £50m lottery funded project.

The shortlist has now been released by the charity – and it is up to you to get voting. On the list is Saints player Matt Le Tissier, Spitfire inventor RJ Mitchell, novelist Jane Austen, Olympic diver Pete Waterfield, King Canute, TV wildlife presenter Chris Packham, women’s rights campaigner Emily Davies, TV gardening presenter Charlie Dimmock, pop star Craig David and Oscar winning animator Suzie Templeton.

Sustran’s Nick Farthing said “portrait benches” are being rolled out across the UK and said the idea is that people will be able to stop and be photographed sitting or standing with the figures.

He said: “It is a chance to celebrate the local characters and give somewhere for people to sit, enjoy the views and just to link in the community with the history and to promote the route.

“This is one of the few places you can get next to the waterside in Southampton.

“We want three people to be chosen so we are urging people to vote through the Daily Echo to tell us who they want to see immortalised.”

Who can you vote for?

R J MITCHELL (1895-1937)
Reginald Joseph Mitchell was a British aeronautical engineer best known for his design of the
Supermarine Spitfire which was crucial to Britain’s victory in the Second World War.

CRAIG DAVID
The Southamptonborn pop star is a Grammy-nominated singer songwriter who rose to fame in
1999 featuring on an Artful Dodger track. Craig David grew up on the Holyrood estate and made music from his bedroom.

KING CANUTE (c.985-1035)
Canute was a Danish King of England who reigned between 1016 and 1035. He was best
remembered for his futile attempt to stop the tide from coming in reputedly near Town Quay in
Southampton. He was buried in Winchester.

JANE AUSTEN (1775-1817)
Former Southampton resident Jane Austen is one of the most widely read writers in English literature thanks to her works of romantic fiction. .

EMILY DAVIES (1830-1921)
Born in Carlton Crescent, Southampton, Emily Davies was an English feminist, suffragist and a
pioneering campaigner for women’s rights to university access.

CHRIS PACKHAM
TV presenter andnaturalist Chris Packham is a wildlife expert, photographer and author with a
passionate concern for conservation and the environment. Born in Southampton in 1961 Chris completed an undergraduate at the zoology department of the University of Southampton.

MATT LE TISSIER
The 44-year-old legendary retired footballer spent his entire club career with Southampton
Football Club and played for the England squad. He currently works as a football pundit.

CHARLIE DIMMOCK
One of Britain’s most recognisable faces, Charlie Dimmock is a gardening expert and TV presenter who was the star of hit BBC show Ground Force.

SUZIE TEMPLETON
Suzie Templeton, 45, born in Sherfield English, near Romsey and grew up in Southampton, is an Oscar-winning writer and director specialising in stop-motion animation. Her work includes the film Peter and the Wolf.

PETE WATERFIELD
The 31-year-old Olympic silver medallist and Commonwealth gold winner, is one of the world’s
elite performers in his sport and lives in Millbrook with his wife Tania and his two young children.

Select the person you want to see immortalised on the ballots below. The three with the most votes will be selected as the winners.

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9:43am Thu 1 Nov 12

ToastyTea says...

Le Tiss is the only proper Sotonian Legend, as Cortese won't ever build a statue of him then let's do this.
Why the hell is Charlie Dimmock in there, she was on a gardening programme about 15yrs ago, wow.
Le Tiss is the only proper Sotonian Legend, as Cortese won't ever build a statue of him then let's do this. Why the hell is Charlie Dimmock in there, she was on a gardening programme about 15yrs ago, wow. ToastyTea

9:50am Thu 1 Nov 12

boobooj says...

What an odd place to put a work of art, on a dead end bridge, at the top of an industrial estate / red light district, next to an unlit boardwalk alongside train tracks that offers you a view of mud and litter when the tides out, or brown water when it's in. Couldn't they think of somewhere more suitable?
What an odd place to put a work of art, on a dead end bridge, at the top of an industrial estate / red light district, next to an unlit boardwalk alongside train tracks that offers you a view of mud and litter when the tides out, or brown water when it's in. Couldn't they think of somewhere more suitable? boobooj

10:14am Thu 1 Nov 12

murfmeister says...

boobooj wrote:
What an odd place to put a work of art, on a dead end bridge, at the top of an industrial estate / red light district, next to an unlit boardwalk alongside train tracks that offers you a view of mud and litter when the tides out, or brown water when it's in. Couldn't they think of somewhere more suitable?
it's not in Pompey is it?
[quote][p][bold]boobooj[/bold] wrote: What an odd place to put a work of art, on a dead end bridge, at the top of an industrial estate / red light district, next to an unlit boardwalk alongside train tracks that offers you a view of mud and litter when the tides out, or brown water when it's in. Couldn't they think of somewhere more suitable?[/p][/quote]it's not in Pompey is it? murfmeister

10:16am Thu 1 Nov 12

C2OPPY says...

Craig David has done fook all for Southampton since becoming famous at least pete Waterfield and Matt le tiss do stuff for the local community
Craig David has done fook all for Southampton since becoming famous at least pete Waterfield and Matt le tiss do stuff for the local community C2OPPY

10:19am Thu 1 Nov 12

SaintsBTGOG says...

Some of the names listed are a joke !

try Ken Russell, Benny Hill, Will Champion
Some of the names listed are a joke ! try Ken Russell, Benny Hill, Will Champion SaintsBTGOG

10:27am Thu 1 Nov 12

stay local says...

Benny Hill
Benny Hill stay local

10:47am Thu 1 Nov 12

Avery T Decanary says...

General Charles Gordon
Sir John Millais
Jack Mantle VC
William Makepeace Thackery
Sarah Siddons
General Charles Gordon Sir John Millais Jack Mantle VC William Makepeace Thackery Sarah Siddons Avery T Decanary

10:47am Thu 1 Nov 12

SO50 Saint says...

If it's Craig David can they at least do the Bo Selecta version with kez sat on his arm
If it's Craig David can they at least do the Bo Selecta version with kez sat on his arm SO50 Saint

10:54am Thu 1 Nov 12

CHARLIE TAYLOR says...

BENNY HILL
THE MOST FUNNIEST AND SUCCESSFUL PERSON FROM SOUTHAMPTON !!!
BENNY HILL THE MOST FUNNIEST AND SUCCESSFUL PERSON FROM SOUTHAMPTON !!! CHARLIE TAYLOR

10:54am Thu 1 Nov 12

CHARLIE TAYLOR says...

BENNY HILL
THE MOST FUNNIEST AND SUCCESSFUL PERSON FROM SOUTHAMPTON !!!
BENNY HILL THE MOST FUNNIEST AND SUCCESSFUL PERSON FROM SOUTHAMPTON !!! CHARLIE TAYLOR

10:59am Thu 1 Nov 12

MGRA says...

BENNY HILL !
BENNY HILL ! MGRA

11:17am Thu 1 Nov 12

boobooj says...

SO50 Saint wrote:
If it's Craig David can they at least do the Bo Selecta version with kez sat on his arm
THIS
[quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: If it's Craig David can they at least do the Bo Selecta version with kez sat on his arm[/p][/quote]THIS boobooj

11:24am Thu 1 Nov 12

Inform Al says...

Currently a footballer from a third rate team seems to be top of the list, ahead of the man who did the most not just for Southampton but for the World. R.J.Mitchel. Seems that all the bigots, cretins etc in Southampton post on this site.
Currently a footballer from a third rate team seems to be top of the list, ahead of the man who did the most not just for Southampton but for the World. R.J.Mitchel. Seems that all the bigots, cretins etc in Southampton post on this site. Inform Al

11:38am Thu 1 Nov 12

Linesman says...

Only two of those listed were born in Southampton, and neither of them are particularly well known.

Benny Hill, on the other hand, was known world-wide.

He should have been top of the list, instead being omitted.
Only two of those listed were born in Southampton, and neither of them are particularly well known. Benny Hill, on the other hand, was known world-wide. He should have been top of the list, instead being omitted. Linesman

11:40am Thu 1 Nov 12

ToastyTea says...

Inform Al wrote:
Currently a footballer from a third rate team seems to be top of the list, ahead of the man who did the most not just for Southampton but for the World. R.J.Mitchel. Seems that all the bigots, cretins etc in Southampton post on this site.
Or maybe, just perhaps, most people do not know who R J Mitchel is (me included) and everyone knows who King Le Tiss is and what he has done for Saints and continues to do in promoting the city.
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: Currently a footballer from a third rate team seems to be top of the list, ahead of the man who did the most not just for Southampton but for the World. R.J.Mitchel. Seems that all the bigots, cretins etc in Southampton post on this site.[/p][/quote]Or maybe, just perhaps, most people do not know who R J Mitchel is (me included) and everyone knows who King Le Tiss is and what he has done for Saints and continues to do in promoting the city. ToastyTea

11:43am Thu 1 Nov 12

St Retford says...

Chris Packham has always struck me as a bit of a mentalist. How about Iwan Thomas? I know he's not born and bred in Southampton but he lives here and he's a good egg.
Chris Packham has always struck me as a bit of a mentalist. How about Iwan Thomas? I know he's not born and bred in Southampton but he lives here and he's a good egg. St Retford

11:46am Thu 1 Nov 12

St Retford says...

Linesman wrote:
Only two of those listed were born in Southampton, and neither of them are particularly well known.

Benny Hill, on the other hand, was known world-wide.

He should have been top of the list, instead being omitted.
I wouldn't be at all surprised to learn that Benny Hill had a touch of the Saviles about him. Did anyone see that footage of him chasing a load of young women around a park? That's not right...
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: Only two of those listed were born in Southampton, and neither of them are particularly well known. Benny Hill, on the other hand, was known world-wide. He should have been top of the list, instead being omitted.[/p][/quote]I wouldn't be at all surprised to learn that Benny Hill had a touch of the Saviles about him. Did anyone see that footage of him chasing a load of young women around a park? That's not right... St Retford

11:46am Thu 1 Nov 12

ToastyTea says...

Re Benny Hill there is a statue in Eastleigh isn't there ? not sure Eastleigh Council would be too happy us trying to claim him as ours.
Re Benny Hill there is a statue in Eastleigh isn't there ? not sure Eastleigh Council would be too happy us trying to claim him as ours. ToastyTea

11:55am Thu 1 Nov 12

bazzeroz says...

ToastyTea wrote:
Re Benny Hill there is a statue in Eastleigh isn't there ? not sure Eastleigh Council would be too happy us trying to claim him as ours.
Wasn't Benny born in Southampton? and worked in Eastleigh as a milkman? His mother and father lived in the Shirley area, something Gardens, the name escapes me now. I worked for a tv rental company in the 70's and when their tv needed a repair Benny would ring up and put on all daft voices, lol. No doubt someone will correct me but I'm sure I'm right.
[quote][p][bold]ToastyTea[/bold] wrote: Re Benny Hill there is a statue in Eastleigh isn't there ? not sure Eastleigh Council would be too happy us trying to claim him as ours.[/p][/quote]Wasn't Benny born in Southampton? and worked in Eastleigh as a milkman? His mother and father lived in the Shirley area, something Gardens, the name escapes me now. I worked for a tv rental company in the 70's and when their tv needed a repair Benny would ring up and put on all daft voices, lol. No doubt someone will correct me but I'm sure I'm right. bazzeroz

12:18pm Thu 1 Nov 12

Cyber__Fug says...

You forgot the biggest comedian of all !!!!

SOUTHY !!!
You forgot the biggest comedian of all !!!! SOUTHY !!! Cyber__Fug

12:19pm Thu 1 Nov 12

gristle says...

Only three of them born in Soton then. A pop entertainer, a TV wildlife presenter, and one worthy but largely unknown nominee who apparently did good work in London and the North.
Only three of them born in Soton then. A pop entertainer, a TV wildlife presenter, and one worthy but largely unknown nominee who apparently did good work in London and the North. gristle

12:21pm Thu 1 Nov 12

Cyber__Fug says...

You forgot the biggest comedian of all !!!!

SOUTHY !!!
You forgot the biggest comedian of all !!!! SOUTHY !!! Cyber__Fug

12:38pm Thu 1 Nov 12

Sovietobserver says...

bazzeroz wrote:
ToastyTea wrote:
Re Benny Hill there is a statue in Eastleigh isn't there ? not sure Eastleigh Council would be too happy us trying to claim him as ours.
Wasn't Benny born in Southampton? and worked in Eastleigh as a milkman? His mother and father lived in the Shirley area, something Gardens, the name escapes me now. I worked for a tv rental company in the 70's and when their tv needed a repair Benny would ring up and put on all daft voices, lol. No doubt someone will correct me but I'm sure I'm right.
Benny Hill's address was 22, Westrow Gardens in Banister's Park .
To my knowledge it has never been blue plaqued.
[quote][p][bold]bazzeroz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ToastyTea[/bold] wrote: Re Benny Hill there is a statue in Eastleigh isn't there ? not sure Eastleigh Council would be too happy us trying to claim him as ours.[/p][/quote]Wasn't Benny born in Southampton? and worked in Eastleigh as a milkman? His mother and father lived in the Shirley area, something Gardens, the name escapes me now. I worked for a tv rental company in the 70's and when their tv needed a repair Benny would ring up and put on all daft voices, lol. No doubt someone will correct me but I'm sure I'm right.[/p][/quote]Benny Hill's address was 22, Westrow Gardens in Banister's Park . To my knowledge it has never been blue plaqued. Sovietobserver

12:58pm Thu 1 Nov 12

The Music Man says...

Some of those names are shocking..who wants to look at a statue of Chris Packham or Charlie Dimmock. Fiona Phillips soon got forgotten about...

Will Champion, Benny Hill, Danny La Rue, Ken Russell and even those guys from Band of Skulls are more famous than most of the people on that list.

May as well chuck in that awful Matt Cardle bloke too - well, he was born here.
Some of those names are shocking..who wants to look at a statue of Chris Packham or Charlie Dimmock. Fiona Phillips soon got forgotten about... Will Champion, Benny Hill, Danny La Rue, Ken Russell and even those guys from Band of Skulls are more famous than most of the people on that list. May as well chuck in that awful Matt Cardle bloke too - well, he was born here. The Music Man

1:00pm Thu 1 Nov 12

megacycle says...

ToastyTea wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
Currently a footballer from a third rate team seems to be top of the list, ahead of the man who did the most not just for Southampton but for the World. R.J.Mitchel. Seems that all the bigots, cretins etc in Southampton post on this site.
Or maybe, just perhaps, most people do not know who R J Mitchel is (me included) and everyone knows who King Le Tiss is and what he has done for Saints and continues to do in promoting the city.
surely you do know what the spitfire is, and how significant is was in the defeat of hitler.
however, there are already lots of tributes to RJ Mitchell and his creation; I'm not sure this idea is relevant to his memory.
incidentally, my understandind of the Canute story is he wanted to disprove the courtiers who claimed he was divinely empowered to command the tides. he also has plenty of existing tributes.
so I remain undecided.
[quote][p][bold]ToastyTea[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: Currently a footballer from a third rate team seems to be top of the list, ahead of the man who did the most not just for Southampton but for the World. R.J.Mitchel. Seems that all the bigots, cretins etc in Southampton post on this site.[/p][/quote]Or maybe, just perhaps, most people do not know who R J Mitchel is (me included) and everyone knows who King Le Tiss is and what he has done for Saints and continues to do in promoting the city.[/p][/quote]surely you do know what the spitfire is, and how significant is was in the defeat of hitler. however, there are already lots of tributes to RJ Mitchell and his creation; I'm not sure this idea is relevant to his memory. incidentally, my understandind of the Canute story is he wanted to disprove the courtiers who claimed he was divinely empowered to command the tides. he also has plenty of existing tributes. so I remain undecided. megacycle

1:01pm Thu 1 Nov 12

St Retford says...

The Music Man wrote:
Some of those names are shocking..who wants to look at a statue of Chris Packham or Charlie Dimmock. Fiona Phillips soon got forgotten about...

Will Champion, Benny Hill, Danny La Rue, Ken Russell and even those guys from Band of Skulls are more famous than most of the people on that list.

May as well chuck in that awful Matt Cardle bloke too - well, he was born here.
Southampton's not got a great musical heritage, has it? Weren't The Delays also from here?

(They weren't very good either.)
[quote][p][bold]The Music Man[/bold] wrote: Some of those names are shocking..who wants to look at a statue of Chris Packham or Charlie Dimmock. Fiona Phillips soon got forgotten about... Will Champion, Benny Hill, Danny La Rue, Ken Russell and even those guys from Band of Skulls are more famous than most of the people on that list. May as well chuck in that awful Matt Cardle bloke too - well, he was born here.[/p][/quote]Southampton's not got a great musical heritage, has it? Weren't The Delays also from here? (They weren't very good either.) St Retford

1:08pm Thu 1 Nov 12

HerbertC says...

Ridiculous place to put statues. I cycle the boardwalk every day and although it's extremely convenient, it's not a pleasant place. I've never seen anywhere that has so much dog poo sitting in piles everywhere - and regularly replenished. It's a dog toilet more than a cycle/foot path. Why would you place statues around there?
Ridiculous place to put statues. I cycle the boardwalk every day and although it's extremely convenient, it's not a pleasant place. I've never seen anywhere that has so much dog poo sitting in piles everywhere - and regularly replenished. It's a dog toilet more than a cycle/foot path. Why would you place statues around there? HerbertC

1:13pm Thu 1 Nov 12

Little Hitler says...

MLT would hopefully be a popular choice for the good people of Southampton.

Obviously, his contributions to sport are well known (ensuring continued Premier League status for Saints and THOSE goals) but there's also the wider economic benefit that the city has enjoyed as a result of SFC's past success at staying in the top flight.

Possibly also fare to say that St Mary's might not be here if it wasn't for him either.
MLT would hopefully be a popular choice for the good people of Southampton. Obviously, his contributions to sport are well known (ensuring continued Premier League status for Saints and THOSE goals) but there's also the wider economic benefit that the city has enjoyed as a result of SFC's past success at staying in the top flight. Possibly also fare to say that St Mary's might not be here if it wasn't for him either. Little Hitler

1:22pm Thu 1 Nov 12

Little Hitler says...

Inform Al wrote:
Currently a footballer from a third rate team seems to be top of the list, ahead of the man who did the most not just for Southampton but for the World. R.J.Mitchel. Seems that all the bigots, cretins etc in Southampton post on this site.
Yet another moron taking a cheap shot at football fans...

If you're so annoyed about this 'injustice', why don't you do something about it rather than complain?

You could perhaps tell us all why we should vote for R. J. Mitchel or (preferably) sod off and do a door-to-door campaign.
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: Currently a footballer from a third rate team seems to be top of the list, ahead of the man who did the most not just for Southampton but for the World. R.J.Mitchel. Seems that all the bigots, cretins etc in Southampton post on this site.[/p][/quote]Yet another moron taking a cheap shot at football fans... If you're so annoyed about this 'injustice', why don't you do something about it rather than complain? You could perhaps tell us all why we should vote for R. J. Mitchel or (preferably) sod off and do a door-to-door campaign. Little Hitler

1:23pm Thu 1 Nov 12

megacycle says...

St Retford wrote:
The Music Man wrote:
Some of those names are shocking..who wants to look at a statue of Chris Packham or Charlie Dimmock. Fiona Phillips soon got forgotten about...

Will Champion, Benny Hill, Danny La Rue, Ken Russell and even those guys from Band of Skulls are more famous than most of the people on that list.

May as well chuck in that awful Matt Cardle bloke too - well, he was born here.
Southampton's not got a great musical heritage, has it? Weren't The Delays also from here?

(They weren't very good either.)
Delays formed in Southampton and still have a strong local following. They have recently been recording tracks for a new album and will be playing at the city's iconic Joiners venue next month. their music also features on the BBC world news "football Focus", among others.
so if you're inclined to criticise, have the decency to use the present tense.
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Music Man[/bold] wrote: Some of those names are shocking..who wants to look at a statue of Chris Packham or Charlie Dimmock. Fiona Phillips soon got forgotten about... Will Champion, Benny Hill, Danny La Rue, Ken Russell and even those guys from Band of Skulls are more famous than most of the people on that list. May as well chuck in that awful Matt Cardle bloke too - well, he was born here.[/p][/quote]Southampton's not got a great musical heritage, has it? Weren't The Delays also from here? (They weren't very good either.)[/p][/quote]Delays formed in Southampton and still have a strong local following. They have recently been recording tracks for a new album and will be playing at the city's iconic Joiners venue next month. their music also features on the BBC world news "football Focus", among others. so if you're inclined to criticise, have the decency to use the present tense. megacycle

1:29pm Thu 1 Nov 12

megacycle says...

St Retford wrote:
Linesman wrote:
Only two of those listed were born in Southampton, and neither of them are particularly well known.

Benny Hill, on the other hand, was known world-wide.

He should have been top of the list, instead being omitted.
I wouldn't be at all surprised to learn that Benny Hill had a touch of the Saviles about him. Did anyone see that footage of him chasing a load of young women around a park? That's not right...
the speeded-up footage of benny chasing scantily-clad adult females was a common feature of his shows. it usually ended with benny being chased away by the females. hardly savile territory.
[quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: Only two of those listed were born in Southampton, and neither of them are particularly well known. Benny Hill, on the other hand, was known world-wide. He should have been top of the list, instead being omitted.[/p][/quote]I wouldn't be at all surprised to learn that Benny Hill had a touch of the Saviles about him. Did anyone see that footage of him chasing a load of young women around a park? That's not right...[/p][/quote]the speeded-up footage of benny chasing scantily-clad adult females was a common feature of his shows. it usually ended with benny being chased away by the females. hardly savile territory. megacycle

1:39pm Thu 1 Nov 12

St Retford says...

megacycle wrote:
St Retford wrote:
The Music Man wrote:
Some of those names are shocking..who wants to look at a statue of Chris Packham or Charlie Dimmock. Fiona Phillips soon got forgotten about...

Will Champion, Benny Hill, Danny La Rue, Ken Russell and even those guys from Band of Skulls are more famous than most of the people on that list.

May as well chuck in that awful Matt Cardle bloke too - well, he was born here.
Southampton's not got a great musical heritage, has it? Weren't The Delays also from here?

(They weren't very good either.)
Delays formed in Southampton and still have a strong local following. They have recently been recording tracks for a new album and will be playing at the city's iconic Joiners venue next month. their music also features on the BBC world news "football Focus", among others.
so if you're inclined to criticise, have the decency to use the present tense.
Maybe they've now become amazing, so it was therefore correct to say they 'weren't' very good since now they're obviously better than The Beatles.

I dunno - I saw them once in about 2004 and it was just jingly-jangly indie which was inoffensive enough but didn't really float my boat.
[quote][p][bold]megacycle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]The Music Man[/bold] wrote: Some of those names are shocking..who wants to look at a statue of Chris Packham or Charlie Dimmock. Fiona Phillips soon got forgotten about... Will Champion, Benny Hill, Danny La Rue, Ken Russell and even those guys from Band of Skulls are more famous than most of the people on that list. May as well chuck in that awful Matt Cardle bloke too - well, he was born here.[/p][/quote]Southampton's not got a great musical heritage, has it? Weren't The Delays also from here? (They weren't very good either.)[/p][/quote]Delays formed in Southampton and still have a strong local following. They have recently been recording tracks for a new album and will be playing at the city's iconic Joiners venue next month. their music also features on the BBC world news "football Focus", among others. so if you're inclined to criticise, have the decency to use the present tense.[/p][/quote]Maybe they've now become amazing, so it was therefore correct to say they 'weren't' very good since now they're obviously better than The Beatles. I dunno - I saw them once in about 2004 and it was just jingly-jangly indie which was inoffensive enough but didn't really float my boat. St Retford

1:40pm Thu 1 Nov 12

St Retford says...

megacycle wrote:
St Retford wrote:
Linesman wrote:
Only two of those listed were born in Southampton, and neither of them are particularly well known.

Benny Hill, on the other hand, was known world-wide.

He should have been top of the list, instead being omitted.
I wouldn't be at all surprised to learn that Benny Hill had a touch of the Saviles about him. Did anyone see that footage of him chasing a load of young women around a park? That's not right...
the speeded-up footage of benny chasing scantily-clad adult females was a common feature of his shows. it usually ended with benny being chased away by the females. hardly savile territory.
It was kind of a joke.
[quote][p][bold]megacycle[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]St Retford[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: Only two of those listed were born in Southampton, and neither of them are particularly well known. Benny Hill, on the other hand, was known world-wide. He should have been top of the list, instead being omitted.[/p][/quote]I wouldn't be at all surprised to learn that Benny Hill had a touch of the Saviles about him. Did anyone see that footage of him chasing a load of young women around a park? That's not right...[/p][/quote]the speeded-up footage of benny chasing scantily-clad adult females was a common feature of his shows. it usually ended with benny being chased away by the females. hardly savile territory.[/p][/quote]It was kind of a joke. St Retford

1:50pm Thu 1 Nov 12

Shoong says...

Benny Hill and Peter Wyatt (aka 'southy'), as long as it's ok to take a whizz on it, he's taking the p*** for years.
Benny Hill and Peter Wyatt (aka 'southy'), as long as it's ok to take a whizz on it, he's taking the p*** for years. Shoong

2:37pm Thu 1 Nov 12

Norwegian Saint says...

How about Steve Curtis World Off shore powerboat champion... on more than one occasion! (with the assistance of a Norwegian!)

But my top three are
3) Matt Le Tissier
2) RJ Mitchell
1) Benny Hill
How about Steve Curtis World Off shore powerboat champion... on more than one occasion! (with the assistance of a Norwegian!) But my top three are 3) Matt Le Tissier 2) RJ Mitchell 1) Benny Hill Norwegian Saint

5:07pm Thu 1 Nov 12

andysaints007 says...

Inform Al wrote:
Currently a footballer from a third rate team seems to be top of the list, ahead of the man who did the most not just for Southampton but for the World. R.J.Mitchel. Seems that all the bigots, cretins etc in Southampton post on this site.
Of course they do - and you are included in that category too !
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: Currently a footballer from a third rate team seems to be top of the list, ahead of the man who did the most not just for Southampton but for the World. R.J.Mitchel. Seems that all the bigots, cretins etc in Southampton post on this site.[/p][/quote]Of course they do - and you are included in that category too ! andysaints007

5:38pm Thu 1 Nov 12

Chas O'Bursledon says...

andysaints007 wrote:
Inform Al wrote:
Currently a footballer from a third rate team seems to be top of the list, ahead of the man who did the most not just for Southampton but for the World. R.J.Mitchel. Seems that all the bigots, cretins etc in Southampton post on this site.
Of course they do - and you are included in that category too !
It's tragic that sensible debate cannot take place on these posts. RJ Mitchell is a true hero who's name will live on beyond that of Matt. The place for a statue of the latter is at St Mary's. There's a wonderful statue of Mitchell in the Aviation Museum hidden from public view. But the bigger question is that who will be remembered 100 years from now - the man who designed a plane that saved a nation or ................
[quote][p][bold]andysaints007[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: Currently a footballer from a third rate team seems to be top of the list, ahead of the man who did the most not just for Southampton but for the World. R.J.Mitchel. Seems that all the bigots, cretins etc in Southampton post on this site.[/p][/quote]Of course they do - and you are included in that category too ![/p][/quote]It's tragic that sensible debate cannot take place on these posts. RJ Mitchell is a true hero who's name will live on beyond that of Matt. The place for a statue of the latter is at St Mary's. There's a wonderful statue of Mitchell in the Aviation Museum hidden from public view. But the bigger question is that who will be remembered 100 years from now - the man who designed a plane that saved a nation or ................ Chas O'Bursledon

5:52pm Thu 1 Nov 12

Jane Sarah Smith says...

HerbertC wrote:
Ridiculous place to put statues. I cycle the boardwalk every day and although it's extremely convenient, it's not a pleasant place. I've never seen anywhere that has so much dog poo sitting in piles everywhere - and regularly replenished. It's a dog toilet more than a cycle/foot path. Why would you place statues around there?
As another person who regularly uses it I have to agree and it will encourage more people to sit there and booze.
[quote][p][bold]HerbertC[/bold] wrote: Ridiculous place to put statues. I cycle the boardwalk every day and although it's extremely convenient, it's not a pleasant place. I've never seen anywhere that has so much dog poo sitting in piles everywhere - and regularly replenished. It's a dog toilet more than a cycle/foot path. Why would you place statues around there?[/p][/quote]As another person who regularly uses it I have to agree and it will encourage more people to sit there and booze. Jane Sarah Smith

6:16pm Thu 1 Nov 12

SaintM says...

The last place a cyclist will see it ia on a cycle path, they never use them
The last place a cyclist will see it ia on a cycle path, they never use them SaintM

6:16pm Thu 1 Nov 12

SaintM says...

The last place a cyclist will see it ia on a cycle path, they never use them
The last place a cyclist will see it ia on a cycle path, they never use them SaintM

6:16pm Thu 1 Nov 12

SaintM says...

The last place a cyclist will see it ia on a cycle path, they never use them
The last place a cyclist will see it ia on a cycle path, they never use them SaintM

6:54pm Thu 1 Nov 12

Jonny7oma says...

First off, as someone who has lived in Southampton for 57 years, I detest the word sotonian, or soton for that matter, it's Southampton!
Secondly, are these statues meant for tourists or locals? If for tourists, probably the most world wide known has to be Benny Hill. If for locals of less years than myself then probably Le Tiss deserves it although I'd prefer Mick Channon myself but then I'm that much older than those who would vote for Le Tiss but he is a good representative of Southampton, regardless of his birth place. Of the list put forward though, the most worthy has to be RJ Mitchel whose offices and design centre was in Hazel road, as anyone who went to the tech college there should know. For those that don't know who he is, he designed the Spitfire, a plane that was sufficiently ahead of the German Luftwaffe fighters to make a difference. The area surrounding Hazel road (Woolston) came under heavy German bombing in world war two but they never put it out of action. He even had a film made of his efforts and I can't think of two many others who can claim that. Another one not mentioned is Willy Russell, the famous director. But please lets not turn this into a joke. Have some pride.
First off, as someone who has lived in Southampton for 57 years, I detest the word sotonian, or soton for that matter, it's Southampton! Secondly, are these statues meant for tourists or locals? If for tourists, probably the most world wide known has to be Benny Hill. If for locals of less years than myself then probably Le Tiss deserves it although I'd prefer Mick Channon myself but then I'm that much older than those who would vote for Le Tiss but he is a good representative of Southampton, regardless of his birth place. Of the list put forward though, the most worthy has to be RJ Mitchel whose offices and design centre was in Hazel road, as anyone who went to the tech college there should know. For those that don't know who he is, he designed the Spitfire, a plane that was sufficiently ahead of the German Luftwaffe fighters to make a difference. The area surrounding Hazel road (Woolston) came under heavy German bombing in world war two but they never put it out of action. He even had a film made of his efforts and I can't think of two many others who can claim that. Another one not mentioned is Willy Russell, the famous director. But please lets not turn this into a joke. Have some pride. Jonny7oma

7:06pm Thu 1 Nov 12

mickey01 says...

Sovietobserver wrote:
bazzeroz wrote:
ToastyTea wrote:
Re Benny Hill there is a statue in Eastleigh isn't there ? not sure Eastleigh Council would be too happy us trying to claim him as ours.
Wasn't Benny born in Southampton? and worked in Eastleigh as a milkman? His mother and father lived in the Shirley area, something Gardens, the name escapes me now. I worked for a tv rental company in the 70's and when their tv needed a repair Benny would ring up and put on all daft voices, lol. No doubt someone will correct me but I'm sure I'm right.
Benny Hill's address was 22, Westrow Gardens in Banister's Park .
To my knowledge it has never been blue plaqued.
its got to be benny hill , my dad used to work at dibbens in shirley and he often tells the story of benny sitting on a bench opposite the post office and having a chat as if he was you or i . i bet the p c brigade would put a stop to a real talent like benny being chosen
chris packham (who) ?
[quote][p][bold]Sovietobserver[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bazzeroz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ToastyTea[/bold] wrote: Re Benny Hill there is a statue in Eastleigh isn't there ? not sure Eastleigh Council would be too happy us trying to claim him as ours.[/p][/quote]Wasn't Benny born in Southampton? and worked in Eastleigh as a milkman? His mother and father lived in the Shirley area, something Gardens, the name escapes me now. I worked for a tv rental company in the 70's and when their tv needed a repair Benny would ring up and put on all daft voices, lol. No doubt someone will correct me but I'm sure I'm right.[/p][/quote]Benny Hill's address was 22, Westrow Gardens in Banister's Park . To my knowledge it has never been blue plaqued.[/p][/quote]its got to be benny hill , my dad used to work at dibbens in shirley and he often tells the story of benny sitting on a bench opposite the post office and having a chat as if he was you or i . i bet the p c brigade would put a stop to a real talent like benny being chosen chris packham (who) ? mickey01

9:47pm Thu 1 Nov 12

G-man1 says...

The Benny Hill statue should be a giant one out by Calshot- like a modern day Colussus of Rhodes greeting the ships with a Fred Scuttle salute as they come down Southampton Water.

Has Howard Jones been mentioned?
The Benny Hill statue should be a giant one out by Calshot- like a modern day Colussus of Rhodes greeting the ships with a Fred Scuttle salute as they come down Southampton Water. Has Howard Jones been mentioned? G-man1

10:12pm Thu 1 Nov 12

gristle says...

Benny Hill, just about as world famous as Popeye the sailor man. And just as entertaining ! Why not call Eastleigh airport 'Benny Hill' airport. Ha Ha.
Benny Hill, just about as world famous as Popeye the sailor man. And just as entertaining ! Why not call Eastleigh airport 'Benny Hill' airport. Ha Ha. gristle

1:08am Fri 2 Nov 12

stay local says...

Thinking about this more a statue of Benny Hill on an isolated location makes no sense, he is still an icon in the states (some recent visitors her rated the trip to see Benny grave as the highlight of their trip, and yes they did video a chase scene around the grave yard) other members of the group then had to make a similar pilgrimage.
So I feel that for Benny to be sat on alone of a section of river is not good enough. I love the idea of a massive Fred Scuttle weaving to the boats as they leave. I also feel we should honour RJ Mitchell, but on the site of the spitfire works or the Itchen bridge could be renamed?

So back to the question of who should be sat alone by the river. Only one choice SOUTHY. It could be titled Southy addresses the hordes, or Southy solve the imponderable etc. or question perhaps the only seat Southy was chosen to sit in!!!!
Thinking about this more a statue of Benny Hill on an isolated location makes no sense, he is still an icon in the states (some recent visitors her rated the trip to see Benny grave as the highlight of their trip, and yes they did video a chase scene around the grave yard) other members of the group then had to make a similar pilgrimage. So I feel that for Benny to be sat on alone of a section of river is not good enough. I love the idea of a massive Fred Scuttle weaving to the boats as they leave. I also feel we should honour RJ Mitchell, but on the site of the spitfire works or the Itchen bridge could be renamed? So back to the question of who should be sat alone by the river. Only one choice SOUTHY. It could be titled Southy addresses the hordes, or Southy solve the imponderable etc. or question perhaps the only seat Southy was chosen to sit in!!!! stay local

6:22am Fri 2 Nov 12

Northamboy says...

RJ Mitchell and Benny Hill

Why is Benny Hill not on the list?
RJ Mitchell and Benny Hill Why is Benny Hill not on the list? Northamboy

7:11am Fri 2 Nov 12

aldermoorboy says...

Benny Hill
Benny Hill aldermoorboy

10:31am Fri 2 Nov 12

Storm Shadow says...

R J Mitchell, because without him there wouldnt be a Southampton....It would be called Südlichberg or some such name.

The lack of a decent education in some posters in unbelieveable.

A national hero and a Southampton hero
R J Mitchell, because without him there wouldnt be a Southampton....It would be called Südlichberg or some such name. The lack of a decent education in some posters in unbelieveable. A national hero and a Southampton hero Storm Shadow

11:05am Fri 2 Nov 12

Chris storey says...

I can't understand why you are laying claim to RJ Mitchell, he may have worked in "Soton" ( silly name) but he was born in "Talke" Stoke on Trent.


He obviously deserves a statue in his birthplace but in won't be in Soton will it.

Jane Austen lived there for 2 years but Basingstoke is closer to her birthplace so maybe that town should claim her for their own.

The rest of them are nobodies and you are clutching straws if you think they are worthy of a statue in their name, it shows that there is nobody of any real merit from "Soton"
I can't understand why you are laying claim to RJ Mitchell, he may have worked in "Soton" ( silly name) but he was born in "Talke" Stoke on Trent. He obviously deserves a statue in his birthplace but in won't be in Soton will it. Jane Austen lived there for 2 years but Basingstoke is closer to her birthplace so maybe that town should claim her for their own. The rest of them are nobodies and you are clutching straws if you think they are worthy of a statue in their name, it shows that there is nobody of any real merit from "Soton" Chris storey

12:35pm Fri 2 Nov 12

megacycle says...

stay local wrote:
Thinking about this more a statue of Benny Hill on an isolated location makes no sense, he is still an icon in the states (some recent visitors her rated the trip to see Benny grave as the highlight of their trip, and yes they did video a chase scene around the grave yard) other members of the group then had to make a similar pilgrimage.
So I feel that for Benny to be sat on alone of a section of river is not good enough. I love the idea of a massive Fred Scuttle weaving to the boats as they leave. I also feel we should honour RJ Mitchell, but on the site of the spitfire works or the Itchen bridge could be renamed?

So back to the question of who should be sat alone by the river. Only one choice SOUTHY. It could be titled Southy addresses the hordes, or Southy solve the imponderable etc. or question perhaps the only seat Southy was chosen to sit in!!!!
I agree. On my travels in Eastern Europe(in Budapest as I write) I have met many people to whom Benny is a comic legend.
But he's not on the shortlist, which looks like it was compiled from a brief google search.

And those of you intent on criticising Southampton's musical "heritage", don't forget Matt Hales from Aqualung.
[quote][p][bold]stay local[/bold] wrote: Thinking about this more a statue of Benny Hill on an isolated location makes no sense, he is still an icon in the states (some recent visitors her rated the trip to see Benny grave as the highlight of their trip, and yes they did video a chase scene around the grave yard) other members of the group then had to make a similar pilgrimage. So I feel that for Benny to be sat on alone of a section of river is not good enough. I love the idea of a massive Fred Scuttle weaving to the boats as they leave. I also feel we should honour RJ Mitchell, but on the site of the spitfire works or the Itchen bridge could be renamed? So back to the question of who should be sat alone by the river. Only one choice SOUTHY. It could be titled Southy addresses the hordes, or Southy solve the imponderable etc. or question perhaps the only seat Southy was chosen to sit in!!!![/p][/quote]I agree. On my travels in Eastern Europe(in Budapest as I write) I have met many people to whom Benny is a comic legend. But he's not on the shortlist, which looks like it was compiled from a brief google search. And those of you intent on criticising Southampton's musical "heritage", don't forget Matt Hales from Aqualung. megacycle

8:22pm Fri 2 Nov 12

bloe04 says...

Only one person has mentioned this, but if you're talking about Craig David, what about Howard Jones?, He was making music and hitting the charts long before Craig David came along and he also performed at Live Aid too!
Only one person has mentioned this, but if you're talking about Craig David, what about Howard Jones?, He was making music and hitting the charts long before Craig David came along and he also performed at Live Aid too! bloe04

1:32pm Sat 3 Nov 12

Doctor Watson says...

T'was inevitable, that the numerous football fans - particularly of young age, would vote for Le Tissier. A Guernsey born man, who, yes! played his entire career with the Saints but who achieved little of note - other than a couple of OK goals and a handful of forgetful games for England.

As with a few others - I must go for RJ Mitchell. But for him, the footballing contingent on here, could be watching Borussia Southampton-Gladbach
, week in and out, whilst munching on bratwurst and NOT pies.
T'was inevitable, that the numerous football fans - particularly of young age, would vote for Le Tissier. A Guernsey born man, who, yes! played his entire career with the Saints but who achieved little of note - other than a couple of OK goals and a handful of forgetful games for England. As with a few others - I must go for RJ Mitchell. But for him, the footballing contingent on here, could be watching Borussia Southampton-Gladbach , week in and out, whilst munching on bratwurst and NOT pies. Doctor Watson

7:41pm Sat 3 Nov 12

Schmeggles says...

boobooj wrote:
SO50 Saint wrote:
If it's Craig David can they at least do the Bo Selecta version with kez sat on his arm
THIS
Yessss!
[quote][p][bold]boobooj[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SO50 Saint[/bold] wrote: If it's Craig David can they at least do the Bo Selecta version with kez sat on his arm[/p][/quote]THIS[/p][/quote]Yessss! Schmeggles

8:46am Sun 4 Nov 12

jen1 says...

Haven't we got better things to spend 5k on, other than a few statues possibly of three nonentities, who no one cares about and in a dingy area where no one wants to be?
Haven't we got better things to spend 5k on, other than a few statues possibly of three nonentities, who no one cares about and in a dingy area where no one wants to be? jen1

12:23pm Sun 4 Nov 12

TwiggyBloke says...

Maybe Pete Waterfield is a worthy winner as an Olympian however believe we should never forget that our freedom to perform in games like soccer and diving has been handed to us by the sacrifice of our parents and grandparents. It seems crazy that we have a generation who can consider people like Matt and Pete as our heroes due to their professional sporting contribution (which is to be respected) if the rest of us do our jobs well we may get a promotion or a pay rise or just keep our jobs (if we are lucky) In the week of remembrance my choice would most definitely be R J Mitchell as his aircraft design was at the heart of the defense of the UK during "our darkest days". The air dominance during the battle of Britain saved literally millions of British lives and was a major factor in preventing an invasion during a time when we were most vulnerable. .. Lest we forget... R J Mitchell.
Maybe Pete Waterfield is a worthy winner as an Olympian however believe we should never forget that our freedom to perform in games like soccer and diving has been handed to us by the sacrifice of our parents and grandparents. It seems crazy that we have a generation who can consider people like Matt and Pete as our heroes due to their professional sporting contribution (which is to be respected) if the rest of us do our jobs well we may get a promotion or a pay rise or just keep our jobs (if we are lucky) In the week of remembrance my choice would most definitely be R J Mitchell as his aircraft design was at the heart of the defense of the UK during "our darkest days". The air dominance during the battle of Britain saved literally millions of British lives and was a major factor in preventing an invasion during a time when we were most vulnerable. .. Lest we forget... R J Mitchell. TwiggyBloke

8:02pm Sun 4 Nov 12

SaintsBTGOG says...

Obviously this poll is now pointless as pompey fans have been on their forum voting for northerner Waterfield. Laughable hes actually on the list in the first place !
Obviously this poll is now pointless as pompey fans have been on their forum voting for northerner Waterfield. Laughable hes actually on the list in the first place ! SaintsBTGOG

9:01pm Sun 4 Nov 12

Chris storey says...

SaintsBTGOG wrote:
Obviously this poll is now pointless as pompey fans have been on their forum voting for northerner Waterfield. Laughable hes actually on the list in the first place !
RJ Mitchell is a northerner too but you seem quite happy to claim his fame for yourselves,, is this because you have no one of any worth to call your own.
I quite liked Benny Hill though, his birds and bees sketch was one of the funniest ever on TV.
[quote][p][bold]SaintsBTGOG[/bold] wrote: Obviously this poll is now pointless as pompey fans have been on their forum voting for northerner Waterfield. Laughable hes actually on the list in the first place ![/p][/quote]RJ Mitchell is a northerner too but you seem quite happy to claim his fame for yourselves,, is this because you have no one of any worth to call your own. I quite liked Benny Hill though, his birds and bees sketch was one of the funniest ever on TV. Chris storey

4:50pm Mon 5 Nov 12

roxylife says...

SaintsBTGOG wrote:
Obviously this poll is now pointless as pompey fans have been on their forum voting for northerner Waterfield. Laughable hes actually on the list in the first place !
pete is no northener, if u want to have a comment at least get your facts right,
[quote][p][bold]SaintsBTGOG[/bold] wrote: Obviously this poll is now pointless as pompey fans have been on their forum voting for northerner Waterfield. Laughable hes actually on the list in the first place ![/p][/quote]pete is no northener, if u want to have a comment at least get your facts right, roxylife

2:56pm Fri 9 Nov 12

weall8leedscum says...

Inform Al wrote:
Currently a footballer from a third rate team seems to be top of the list, ahead of the man who did the most not just for Southampton but for the World. R.J.Mitchel. Seems that all the bigots, cretins etc in Southampton post on this site.
Idiot.
[quote][p][bold]Inform Al[/bold] wrote: Currently a footballer from a third rate team seems to be top of the list, ahead of the man who did the most not just for Southampton but for the World. R.J.Mitchel. Seems that all the bigots, cretins etc in Southampton post on this site.[/p][/quote]Idiot. weall8leedscum

4:14pm Fri 9 Nov 12

ShakeyWiffles says...

Chris storey wrote:
SaintsBTGOG wrote:
Obviously this poll is now pointless as pompey fans have been on their forum voting for northerner Waterfield. Laughable hes actually on the list in the first place !
RJ Mitchell is a northerner too but you seem quite happy to claim his fame for yourselves,, is this because you have no one of any worth to call your own.
I quite liked Benny Hill though, his birds and bees sketch was one of the funniest ever on TV.
Jealous are we?
[quote][p][bold]Chris storey[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]SaintsBTGOG[/bold] wrote: Obviously this poll is now pointless as pompey fans have been on their forum voting for northerner Waterfield. Laughable hes actually on the list in the first place ![/p][/quote]RJ Mitchell is a northerner too but you seem quite happy to claim his fame for yourselves,, is this because you have no one of any worth to call your own. I quite liked Benny Hill though, his birds and bees sketch was one of the funniest ever on TV.[/p][/quote]Jealous are we? ShakeyWiffles

7:30pm Fri 9 Nov 12

Ragtacker Reader says...

Matt Le Tissier does more for Southampton than any of the other candidates.
Hardly a week goes by where he's not in the public eye, promoting charities, good causes and now Matt Le Tissier's own Academy for our young talented footballers. Non profit making I might add! Vote Matt.
Matt Le Tissier does more for Southampton than any of the other candidates. Hardly a week goes by where he's not in the public eye, promoting charities, good causes and now Matt Le Tissier's own Academy for our young talented footballers. Non profit making I might add! Vote Matt. Ragtacker Reader

5:11am Mon 12 Nov 12

Dan Soton says...

I'm for a street level statue of Benny Hill in Bedford Place.. with carrier bags in hand



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Benny Hill's statue should be in Southampton.

10:00am Friday 5th October 2007

There is no doubt that the statue should be erected in Southampton because Benny Hill was a city man through and through.

He was often seen shopping in the Co-op at Bedford Place carrying his carrier bag and walking on Southampton Common in the steps of his mother when he was a child.

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I'm for a street level statue of Benny Hill in Bedford Place.. with carrier bags in hand - Benny Hill's statue should be in Southampton. 10:00am Friday 5th October 2007 There is no doubt that the statue should be erected in Southampton because Benny Hill was a city man through and through. He was often seen shopping in the Co-op at Bedford Place carrying his carrier bag and walking on Southampton Common in the steps of his mother when he was a child. http://www.dailyecho .co.uk/yoursay/lette rs/1736312.Benny_Hil l_s_statue_should_be _in_Southampton/ Dan Soton

4:31pm Tue 13 Nov 12

Sotonians_lets_pull_together says...

After the negative remarks made by MLT recently , I would be appalled if he was given a statue.

This just shows what a mistake it is to put up statues of living people, as there is still so much time left for the laurel leaves to slip.
After the negative remarks made by MLT recently , I would be appalled if he was given a statue. This just shows what a mistake it is to put up statues of living people, as there is still so much time left for the laurel leaves to slip. Sotonians_lets_pull_together

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