Commissioner candidate in row with police chief

Simon Hayes

Simon Hayes

First published in News

A CANDIDATE in the battle to become Hampshire’s new police commissioner has hit out at Chief Constable Alex Marshall in a row over his election leaflets.

Simon Hayes had hundreds of flyers printed in an attempt to spread his message to police officers and staff – but now faces having to destroy them. He was told that for them to be left around stations and communal police areas would compromise the force’s neutrality in Thursday’s poll.

The independent candidate, who thought he had stolen a march on his rivals with the plan, said: “The chief constable, in my view, is denying the democratic process because he is denying me the chance to talk to a major target audience.”

He added: “What I will do with them I don’t know. I will probably use them to light my fire in the winter months.”

His request to circulate an email around Hampshire Constabulary was also turned down.

He said: “They stuck to the line that all police officers must be impartial. I quite understand that, but I am not asking for them to appear in a photograph with me holding the leaflet.”

The leaflets had made up a “large part” of his campaigning budget, he said.

He added: “We are doing this with a meagre budget which is much less than the other parties are doing.

“I think that the fact that I have shown initiative to talk to the staff is important.”

The ex-Crimestoppers chief is up against Labour’s Jacqui Rayment, Tory Michael Mates, Lib Dem David Goodall, UKIP’s Stephen West and Don Jerrard of Justice and Anti-Corruption Party.

For a full list of the candidates and their profiles click here

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6:57am Mon 12 Nov 12

Frank Insensed says...

How did we let this tax-wasting exercise creep up behind us? If I wanted to vote for a 'sheriff', I'd live in Arizona.
How did we let this tax-wasting exercise creep up behind us? If I wanted to vote for a 'sheriff', I'd live in Arizona. Frank Insensed
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7:33am Mon 12 Nov 12

The Wickham Man says...

I don't want one of these tax-consuming pointless idiotic commisioners anyway but if I have to have one I'd prefer to have one who at least does basic research before throwing money away on an unworkable scheme.
Next.
I don't want one of these tax-consuming pointless idiotic commisioners anyway but if I have to have one I'd prefer to have one who at least does basic research before throwing money away on an unworkable scheme. Next. The Wickham Man
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10:00am Mon 12 Nov 12

Frank28 says...

It's a shame that Police Commissioner is a political position. Simon Hayes has been a Tory candidate for decades - I wonder why he's gone Independent?
It's a shame that Police Commissioner is a political position. Simon Hayes has been a Tory candidate for decades - I wonder why he's gone Independent? Frank28
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10:12am Mon 12 Nov 12

Tottonion says...

Who are they? Where are they? Where's the booklet that was supposed to be sent to everyone?
I won't be voting as I haven't received anything, nor are my neighbours. Who needs a "sheriff" any way?
Who are they? Where are they? Where's the booklet that was supposed to be sent to everyone? I won't be voting as I haven't received anything, nor are my neighbours. Who needs a "sheriff" any way? Tottonion
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10:35am Mon 12 Nov 12

Foundry Lane says...

I think this is a bad idea and a waste of money. There may be things wrong with our Police Forces but I am not convinced that this is the way to put them right.
I think this is a bad idea and a waste of money. There may be things wrong with our Police Forces but I am not convinced that this is the way to put them right. Foundry Lane
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11:16am Mon 12 Nov 12

Boatman says...

Totally opposed to the idea of political Commissioners. Slippery slope which could end up with the police being even more a tool of oppression by our 'Masters'.

What is more I believe voting is this Thursday (is that true?) and I have received no communication from anyone.
Totally opposed to the idea of political Commissioners. Slippery slope which could end up with the police being even more a tool of oppression by our 'Masters'. What is more I believe voting is this Thursday (is that true?) and I have received no communication from anyone. Boatman
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1:48pm Mon 12 Nov 12

10 Minute Man says...

Hardly anyone will vote, only the extremely committed politicos who can muster some turn out. I suspect this will result in Michael Mates getting Hampshire.

I would vote for a candidate who talked about serving people, and not the pseudo-macho toughness BS that most of them spout.
Hardly anyone will vote, only the extremely committed politicos who can muster some turn out. I suspect this will result in Michael Mates getting Hampshire. I would vote for a candidate who talked about serving people, and not the pseudo-macho toughness BS that most of them spout. 10 Minute Man
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1:52pm Mon 12 Nov 12

On the inside says...

The man is a complete fool as he obviously did not read the rules properly. This is no more than you can ever expect from an independent.
The man is a complete fool as he obviously did not read the rules properly. This is no more than you can ever expect from an independent. On the inside
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1:59pm Mon 12 Nov 12

jarms89 says...

I found a link to the flyer in question, it seems v.police employee orientated and I can't see anything that breaks any rules. The police are voters, and are most likely to be impacted so surely they, more than anyone, need to know a little more about the candidates.
They make up about 7000 potential voters and whilst they aren't allowed to promote candidates they are certainly able to be informed and persuaded to vote.

http://www.hayes4pcc
.org/p/police-messag
e.html

In my opinion, Simon Hayes has the credibility, experience and entering as an Independent candidate is free from party political pressures. (even if he is a past Tory, the key part is PAST). Hope that people make their vote count.
I found a link to the flyer in question, it seems v.police employee orientated and I can't see anything that breaks any rules. The police are voters, and are most likely to be impacted so surely they, more than anyone, need to know a little more about the candidates. They make up about 7000 potential voters and whilst they aren't allowed to promote candidates they are certainly able to be informed and persuaded to vote. http://www.hayes4pcc .org/p/police-messag e.html In my opinion, Simon Hayes has the credibility, experience and entering as an Independent candidate is free from party political pressures. (even if he is a past Tory, the key part is PAST). Hope that people make their vote count. jarms89
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2:54pm Mon 12 Nov 12

dolomiteman says...

It would be a good idea if it was truely independent from political agendas.

The leaflets that you should receive in the post do not say who the candiates are it just tells you how to vote, it is upto the candiates to promote themselves via leaflet drops and door knocking.
As 'jarms89' states, Simon Hayes is the only true indpendant candiate, the others all have a political agenda if you read their speil.
www.choosemypcc.org.
uk.
It would be a good idea if it was truely independent from political agendas. The leaflets that you should receive in the post do not say who the candiates are it just tells you how to vote, it is upto the candiates to promote themselves via leaflet drops and door knocking. As 'jarms89' states, Simon Hayes is the only true indpendant candiate, the others all have a political agenda if you read their speil. www.choosemypcc.org. uk. dolomiteman
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5:44pm Mon 12 Nov 12

skin2000 says...

For the costs involved in getting a Police Commissioner we, should get Batman and Robin chucked in for nothing.
For the costs involved in getting a Police Commissioner we, should get Batman and Robin chucked in for nothing. skin2000
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8:47pm Mon 12 Nov 12

cantthinkofone says...

What a joke. Simon Hayes has demonstrated one thing with this - that he's an idiot.

Of course he can't leaflet their workplaces for goodness sake. He's perfectly at liberty to campaign for their vote when they're off duty, but not whilst their on the job. Just basic bl00dy common sense.

The man's made a fool of himself.
What a joke. Simon Hayes has demonstrated one thing with this - that he's an idiot. Of course he can't leaflet their workplaces for goodness sake. He's perfectly at liberty to campaign for their vote when they're off duty, but not whilst their on the job. Just basic bl00dy common sense. The man's made a fool of himself. cantthinkofone
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8:48pm Mon 12 Nov 12

cantthinkofone says...

*they're
*they're cantthinkofone
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10:13pm Mon 12 Nov 12

Rob444 says...

Why does our government have to copy the yanks all the time?

We don't need or want this nonsense, police run by someone with little or no experience of how the police work.
Why does our government have to copy the yanks all the time? We don't need or want this nonsense, police run by someone with little or no experience of how the police work. Rob444
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11:45pm Mon 12 Nov 12

IronLady2010 says...

We didn't really have a great choice to be honest. Michael who is well past his sell by date, Labour who we cannot trust, Lib Dems I have no idea on who stood as I just ignored.

So this left my only two choices as Independent and UKIP.

I could have chosen not to vote, but then I couldn't complain later.
We didn't really have a great choice to be honest. Michael who is well past his sell by date, Labour who we cannot trust, Lib Dems I have no idea on who stood as I just ignored. So this left my only two choices as Independent and UKIP. I could have chosen not to vote, but then I couldn't complain later. IronLady2010
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11:49pm Mon 12 Nov 12

IronLady2010 says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
We didn't really have a great choice to be honest. Michael who is well past his sell by date, Labour who we cannot trust, Lib Dems I have no idea on who stood as I just ignored.

So this left my only two choices as Independent and UKIP.

I could have chosen not to vote, but then I couldn't complain later.
So UKIP was first choice, followed by independent. I feel based on the info that is available this was the best choice. We should all vote and look into whom we feel is best. No point in moaning later if you didn't vote :-)
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: We didn't really have a great choice to be honest. Michael who is well past his sell by date, Labour who we cannot trust, Lib Dems I have no idea on who stood as I just ignored. So this left my only two choices as Independent and UKIP. I could have chosen not to vote, but then I couldn't complain later.[/p][/quote]So UKIP was first choice, followed by independent. I feel based on the info that is available this was the best choice. We should all vote and look into whom we feel is best. No point in moaning later if you didn't vote :-) IronLady2010
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7:45am Tue 13 Nov 12

Raxx says...

IronLady2010 wrote:
IronLady2010 wrote:
We didn't really have a great choice to be honest. Michael who is well past his sell by date, Labour who we cannot trust, Lib Dems I have no idea on who stood as I just ignored.

So this left my only two choices as Independent and UKIP.

I could have chosen not to vote, but then I couldn't complain later.
So UKIP was first choice, followed by independent. I feel based on the info that is available this was the best choice. We should all vote and look into whom we feel is best. No point in moaning later if you didn't vote :-)
I agree for those that don't vote just because they can't be bothered.

But there's also a fair proportion that don't vote because they've come to the conclusion that the whole system is a sham. They have every right to moan IMO.
[quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]IronLady2010[/bold] wrote: We didn't really have a great choice to be honest. Michael who is well past his sell by date, Labour who we cannot trust, Lib Dems I have no idea on who stood as I just ignored. So this left my only two choices as Independent and UKIP. I could have chosen not to vote, but then I couldn't complain later.[/p][/quote]So UKIP was first choice, followed by independent. I feel based on the info that is available this was the best choice. We should all vote and look into whom we feel is best. No point in moaning later if you didn't vote :-)[/p][/quote]I agree for those that don't vote just because they can't be bothered. But there's also a fair proportion that don't vote because they've come to the conclusion that the whole system is a sham. They have every right to moan IMO. Raxx
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