Sales of Ferrari cars rocket (From Daily Echo)

"But despite the financial doom and gloom one section of society appears to be immune from the credit crunch and money woes that have hit most of us."

Yes Daily Echo, the bunch of overpaid yobs you are obsessed with - the so-called "Saints". They earn in a month what a neurosurgeon earns in a year. And for what? Kicking a little ball into a big net!

It's not the bankers that annoy me.

AD1234 wrote:
"But despite the financial doom and gloom one section of society appears to be immune from the credit crunch and money woes that have hit most of us." Yes Daily Echo, the bunch of overpaid yobs you are obsessed with - the so-called "Saints". They earn in a month what a neurosurgeon earns in a year. And for what? Kicking a little ball into a big net! It's not the bankers that annoy me.

I have not seen many Ferraris at the training ground, maybe you should aim your jealousy at others.Large financial rewards are not strictly limited to premiership footballers so singling out our failing footballers is unfair. If we were to pay neurosurgeons the wages you wish them to have that would surely cripple our already suffering NHS. How many of these car drivers are company directors that employ 100's of people throughout our region?

Nice to know the 1% are having a great time

once a saint wrote:

AD1234 wrote:
"But despite the financial doom and gloom one section of society appears to be immune from the credit crunch and money woes that have hit most of us." Yes Daily Echo, the bunch of overpaid yobs you are obsessed with - the so-called "Saints". They earn in a month what a neurosurgeon earns in a year. And for what? Kicking a little ball into a big net! It's not the bankers that annoy me.

I have not seen many Ferraris at the training ground, maybe you should aim your jealousy at others.Large financial rewards are not strictly limited to premiership footballers so singling out our failing footballers is unfair. If we were to pay neurosurgeons the wages you wish them to have that would surely cripple our already suffering NHS. How many of these car drivers are company directors that employ 100's of people throughout our region?

Footballers have a habit of trashing Ferraris...not many footballers buy them nowadays. They are not easy to drive.

Try thinking about the VAT,initial registration, VED and fuel tax contributions that the new owners will be making to the UK economy. They could have bought Smart cars and contributed virtually nothing.

I love the smell of envy in the morning.

No matter how you look at it, the fact is that the elite are making more money than normal when everyone else is getting poorer. Surely none of you can say, you gonestly dont feel something is not quite right with the world aye ?

(And yes footballers do make too much money for kicking a footbal about and crying because they get kicked in the shin.)

Cheerio.

Georgem wrote:
I love the smell of envy in the morning.

Not envy Georgem a economic and political system that do not work and favours those with money.

once a saint wrote:

AD1234 wrote:
"But despite the financial doom and gloom one section of society appears to be immune from the credit crunch and money woes that have hit most of us." Yes Daily Echo, the bunch of overpaid yobs you are obsessed with - the so-called "Saints". They earn in a month what a neurosurgeon earns in a year. And for what? Kicking a little ball into a big net! It's not the bankers that annoy me.

I have not seen many Ferraris at the training ground, maybe you should aim your jealousy at others.Large financial rewards are not strictly limited to premiership footballers so singling out our failing footballers is unfair. If we were to pay neurosurgeons the wages you wish them to have that would surely cripple our already suffering NHS. How many of these car drivers are company directors that employ 100's of people throughout our region?

Ex-Saint,

"maybe you should aim your jealousy at others"

...very happily, I'm in a position that precludes the possibility of jealousy. You have missed the point. I question the correlation between a football-player and obscenely large salaries.

"If we were to pay neurosurgeons the wages you wish them to have that would surely cripple our already suffering NHS"

...again, you miss the point. I'm not suggesting that neurosurgeons should be paid more. I simply find it disturbing that Society values a footballer some ten times more than a highly educated medical expert. When footballers earned a wage commensurate with their value to society (as in the great days of the 60s), they were almost universally gentlemen, and role-models.

Look at what the Monopoly-money pay has done to the game.

By the way, I'm too tall to fit into a Ferrari.

southy wrote:

Georgem wrote:
I love the smell of envy in the morning.

Not envy Georgem a economic and political system that do not work and favours those with money.

No, it's definitely envy, like what your politics is based on.

southy wrote:

Georgem wrote:
I love the smell of envy in the morning.

Not envy Georgem a economic and political system that do not work and favours those with money.

Nope, it's definitely envy.

AD1234 wrote:

once a saint wrote:

AD1234 wrote:
"But despite the financial doom and gloom one section of society appears to be immune from the credit crunch and money woes that have hit most of us." Yes Daily Echo, the bunch of overpaid yobs you are obsessed with - the so-called "Saints". They earn in a month what a neurosurgeon earns in a year. And for what? Kicking a little ball into a big net! It's not the bankers that annoy me.

I have not seen many Ferraris at the training ground, maybe you should aim your jealousy at others.Large financial rewards are not strictly limited to premiership footballers so singling out our failing footballers is unfair. If we were to pay neurosurgeons the wages you wish them to have that would surely cripple our already suffering NHS. How many of these car drivers are company directors that employ 100's of people throughout our region?

Ex-Saint,

"maybe you should aim your jealousy at others"

...very happily, I'm in a position that precludes the possibility of jealousy. You have missed the point. I question the correlation between a football-player and obscenely large salaries.

"If we were to pay neurosurgeons the wages you wish them to have that would surely cripple our already suffering NHS"

...again, you miss the point. I'm not suggesting that neurosurgeons should be paid more. I simply find it disturbing that Society values a footballer some ten times more than a highly educated medical expert. When footballers earned a wage commensurate with their value to society (as in the great days of the 60s), they were almost universally gentlemen, and role-models.

Look at what the Monopoly-money pay has done to the game.

By the way, I'm too tall to fit into a Ferrari.

Why is it always footballers that are singled out?

What about some of the so-called, 'Entertainers'?

A footballer has a comparatively short working life, and when it ends, there are considerably less jobs available in coaching or management, so they make their money while they can.

How many years have we listened to the wailing made by the likes of Cliff Richard, Tom Jones etc etc?

They can do two shows a day, seven days a week, and at no time are they in danger of having their career cut short by a mis-timed tackle.

Doctors and surgeons choose that career and use the talents they have been given, the same as footballers and other sportsmen and women.

It is bankers that got the country into this financial crisis, and they are the ones that are now being paid bonuses, some in excess of £1m.

Shoong wrote:

southy wrote:

Georgem wrote:
I love the smell of envy in the morning.

Not envy Georgem a economic and political system that do not work and favours those with money.

No, it's definitely envy, like what your politics is based on.

Quite. Key phrase "favours those with money". Definition of envy:

"a resentful emotion that occurs when a person lacks another's (perceived) superior quality, achievement or possession and wishes that the other lacked it."

Sounds spot-on to me.

AD1234 wrote:

once a saint wrote:

AD1234 wrote: "But despite the financial doom and gloom one section of society appears to be immune from the credit crunch and money woes that have hit most of us." Yes Daily Echo, the bunch of overpaid yobs you are obsessed with - the so-called "Saints". They earn in a month what a neurosurgeon earns in a year. And for what? Kicking a little ball into a big net! It's not the bankers that annoy me.

I have not seen many Ferraris at the training ground, maybe you should aim your jealousy at others.Large financial rewards are not strictly limited to premiership footballers so singling out our failing footballers is unfair. If we were to pay neurosurgeons the wages you wish them to have that would surely cripple our already suffering NHS. How many of these car drivers are company directors that employ 100's of people throughout our region?

Ex-Saint, "maybe you should aim your jealousy at others" ...very happily, I'm in a position that precludes the possibility of jealousy. You have missed the point. I question the correlation between a football-player and obscenely large salaries. "If we were to pay neurosurgeons the wages you wish them to have that would surely cripple our already suffering NHS" ...again, you miss the point. I'm not suggesting that neurosurgeons should be paid more. I simply find it disturbing that Society values a footballer some ten times more than a highly educated medical expert. When footballers earned a wage commensurate with their value to society (as in the great days of the 60s), they were almost universally gentlemen, and role-models. Look at what the Monopoly-money pay has done to the game. By the way, I'm too tall to fit into a Ferrari.

Always a Saint not ex Saint, I am happy that you are in a comfortable position it would appear that you are assuming that all premiership footballers are on £100k a week which I doubt that ours are. The argument of football wages is a completely seperate issue afterall who would turn down the money if they were in the footballers position, how much did Novak Djokovic earn for winning the World Tennis last night? surely he should be criticised as well for working hard to reach the pinnacle of his sport.
Times are more commercial now so sadly the days of gentleman footballers have gone without devaluing the work of our NHS staff the only time we sing their praises is when we have been on the receiving end of their treatment. I wish things were fairer and that our sports stars were paid less and done more for the community and society and that nurses and surgeons who make a difference to peoples lives were rewarded more but lets be realistic here. Footballers are role models to young kids you may not like it but they influence our society. Like you I am tall but given the chance of owning a beautiful red sports car I would jump at the chance after all who has the right to decide if they deserve to own one if they have worked for it?

AD1234 wrote:

once a saint wrote:

AD1234 wrote:
"But despite the financial doom and gloom one section of society appears to be immune from the credit crunch and money woes that have hit most of us." Yes Daily Echo, the bunch of overpaid yobs you are obsessed with - the so-called "Saints". They earn in a month what a neurosurgeon earns in a year. And for what? Kicking a little ball into a big net! It's not the bankers that annoy me.

I have not seen many Ferraris at the training ground, maybe you should aim your jealousy at others.Large financial rewards are not strictly limited to premiership footballers so singling out our failing footballers is unfair. If we were to pay neurosurgeons the wages you wish them to have that would surely cripple our already suffering NHS. How many of these car drivers are company directors that employ 100's of people throughout our region?

Ex-Saint,

"maybe you should aim your jealousy at others"

...very happily, I'm in a position that precludes the possibility of jealousy. You have missed the point. I question the correlation between a football-player and obscenely large salaries.

"If we were to pay neurosurgeons the wages you wish them to have that would surely cripple our already suffering NHS"

...again, you miss the point. I'm not suggesting that neurosurgeons should be paid more. I simply find it disturbing that Society values a footballer some ten times more than a highly educated medical expert. When footballers earned a wage commensurate with their value to society (as in the great days of the 60s), they were almost universally gentlemen, and role-models.

Look at what the Monopoly-money pay has done to the game.

By the way, I'm too tall to fit into a Ferrari.

I think its you that misses the point AD
Society has nothing to do with it and no-one has ever been paid by their value to the society. Its a free market, just as a house in Bassett may be worth four times one in Swaythling, it's what people are prepared to pay!
We pay to watch footballers and consequently, as primarily entertainers, they recieve wages that are commensurate with the entire entertainment industry. Not many people I know would pay money to watch a neurosurgeon!
Many footballers are still gentlemen and rolemodels (look at Messi for instance)
As for monopoly money in football.... this has saved many a club, produced revenue for the government (Pompey aside!!!) produced plenty of employment and The Premier League has become a worldwide brand leader to which some of the biggest companies in the world would like to be associated .
If you want to point the finger at people who don't deserve the vast salaries they get I suggest you look at politicians and councillors who like to steal and waste our money and I struggle to find any who are worthy of being role models.

southy wrote:

Georgem wrote:
I love the smell of envy in the morning.

Not envy Georgem a economic and political system that do not work and favours those with money.

Perhaps a system should be adopted where no-one gets paid to work and everything is free. The only issue would be who does the hard manual graft and who sits in an office organising things. Try to think things through before pressing the 'submit' button.

AD1234 wrote:
"But despite the financial doom and gloom one section of society appears to be immune from the credit crunch and money woes that have hit most of us."

Yes Daily Echo, the bunch of overpaid yobs you are obsessed with - the so-called "Saints". They earn in a month what a neurosurgeon earns in a year. And for what? Kicking a little ball into a big net!

It's not the bankers that annoy me.

I'm no football fan, but footballers at least bring enjoyment and pleasure to millions of people across the world. In contrast bankers have only given us misery and economic collapse - you can't blame the footballers for that.

Torchie1 wrote:

southy wrote:

Georgem wrote:
I love the smell of envy in the morning.

Not envy Georgem a economic and political system that do not work and favours those with money.

Perhaps a system should be adopted where no-one gets paid to work and everything is free. The only issue would be who does the hard manual graft and who sits in an office organising things. Try to think things through before pressing the 'submit' button.

Southy inhabits a world where there are only three different kinds of people:

factory workers, who deserve the world handed to them on a plate, and pay 3045956904595% tax on their earnings

managers, who wipe their backsides on £500 notes, eat caviar for every meal and drive around in golden Rolls Royces whilst stealing money from babies to pay for their next yacht, who pay 0% tax at all, ever

Southy

Yep. All workers are exploited, blue-collar people, and everyone else who isn't southy is a multi-billionaire who pays no tax whatsoever

When you take this into consideration, his posts suddenly make a lot more sense.

Torchie1 wrote:

southy wrote:

Georgem wrote:
I love the smell of envy in the morning.

Not envy Georgem a economic and political system that do not work and favours those with money.

Perhaps a system should be adopted where no-one gets paid to work and everything is free. The only issue would be who does the hard manual graft and who sits in an office organising things. Try to think things through before pressing the 'submit' button.

Perhaps everyone should have Ferraris.

There, problem sorted.

kingnotail wrote:

AD1234 wrote:
"But despite the financial doom and gloom one section of society appears to be immune from the credit crunch and money woes that have hit most of us."

Yes Daily Echo, the bunch of overpaid yobs you are obsessed with - the so-called "Saints". They earn in a month what a neurosurgeon earns in a year. And for what? Kicking a little ball into a big net!

It's not the bankers that annoy me.

I'm no football fan, but footballers at least bring enjoyment and pleasure to millions of people across the world. In contrast bankers have only given us misery and economic collapse - you can't blame the footballers for that.

Bankers have not ONLY given us misery and economic collapse. What a load of ill-informed nonsense. Without the bankers there'd be no banking system, and without that, the world as we know it simply would not exist. We'd still be in the dark ages, dying of plague.

AD1234 wrote:

once a saint wrote:

AD1234 wrote:
"But despite the financial doom and gloom one section of society appears to be immune from the credit crunch and money woes that have hit most of us." Yes Daily Echo, the bunch of overpaid yobs you are obsessed with - the so-called "Saints". They earn in a month what a neurosurgeon earns in a year. And for what? Kicking a little ball into a big net! It's not the bankers that annoy me.

I have not seen many Ferraris at the training ground, maybe you should aim your jealousy at others.Large financial rewards are not strictly limited to premiership footballers so singling out our failing footballers is unfair. If we were to pay neurosurgeons the wages you wish them to have that would surely cripple our already suffering NHS. How many of these car drivers are company directors that employ 100's of people throughout our region?

Ex-Saint,

"maybe you should aim your jealousy at others"

...very happily, I'm in a position that precludes the possibility of jealousy. You have missed the point. I question the correlation between a football-player and obscenely large salaries.

"If we were to pay neurosurgeons the wages you wish them to have that would surely cripple our already suffering NHS"

...again, you miss the point. I'm not suggesting that neurosurgeons should be paid more. I simply find it disturbing that Society values a footballer some ten times more than a highly educated medical expert. When footballers earned a wage commensurate with their value to society (as in the great days of the 60s), they were almost universally gentlemen, and role-models.

Look at what the Monopoly-money pay has done to the game.

By the way, I'm too tall to fit into a Ferrari.

Ah so short men are the big earners then lol!

AD1234 wrote:

once a saint wrote:

AD1234 wrote:
"But despite the financial doom and gloom one section of society appears to be immune from the credit crunch and money woes that have hit most of us." Yes Daily Echo, the bunch of overpaid yobs you are obsessed with - the so-called "Saints". They earn in a month what a neurosurgeon earns in a year. And for what? Kicking a little ball into a big net! It's not the bankers that annoy me.

I have not seen many Ferraris at the training ground, maybe you should aim your jealousy at others.Large financial rewards are not strictly limited to premiership footballers so singling out our failing footballers is unfair. If we were to pay neurosurgeons the wages you wish them to have that would surely cripple our already suffering NHS. How many of these car drivers are company directors that employ 100's of people throughout our region?

Ex-Saint,

"maybe you should aim your jealousy at others"

...very happily, I'm in a position that precludes the possibility of jealousy. You have missed the point. I question the correlation between a football-player and obscenely large salaries.

"If we were to pay neurosurgeons the wages you wish them to have that would surely cripple our already suffering NHS"

...again, you miss the point. I'm not suggesting that neurosurgeons should be paid more. I simply find it disturbing that Society values a footballer some ten times more than a highly educated medical expert. When footballers earned a wage commensurate with their value to society (as in the great days of the 60s), they were almost universally gentlemen, and role-models.

Look at what the Monopoly-money pay has done to the game.

By the way, I'm too tall to fit into a Ferrari.

Ah so short men are the big earners then lol!

@ georgem

I never realised bankers have invented cure for the plague!? WOW. You mean they realised plague was spread by fleas on rats all on their own!? again wow.... These bankers are realy smart not only do they take all your money to" look after it- and not pay squat back if they feel like they dont make enough profit" but also cure diseases....

@ no one in particular(general rant mode)

And yes, without bankers there would be a different world. How do you know it would still be middle age??
How do you know the different social model that would have emerged would have been worse? Capitalist society and mentality has given us 2 world wars and the biggest genocide episode humanity has ever know.

How on earth do you corolate the emergance of world bank between advancements in technology is beyond me.

For your information, half the world population DOES still live in the middle ages. See past the end of your own nose and see the state the world is in...

Of course some people will never want to share while others will share their last blanket. The selfish C*NTS just do anything and everything it takes to get in power and stay there.

Subject48 wrote:
@ georgem

I never realised bankers have invented cure for the plague!? WOW. You mean they realised plague was spread by fleas on rats all on their own!? again wow.... These bankers are realy smart not only do they take all your money to" look after it- and not pay squat back if they feel like they dont make enough profit" but also cure diseases....

@ no one in particular(general rant mode)

And yes, without bankers there would be a different world. How do you know it would still be middle age??
How do you know the different social model that would have emerged would have been worse? Capitalist society and mentality has given us 2 world wars and the biggest genocide episode humanity has ever know.

How on earth do you corolate the emergance of world bank between advancements in technology is beyond me.

For your information, half the world population DOES still live in the middle ages. See past the end of your own nose and see the state the world is in...

Of course some people will never want to share while others will share their last blanket. The selfish C*NTS just do anything and everything it takes to get in power and stay there.

A decent riposte until the end when you ruined it with the last paragraph.

Subject48 wrote:
@ georgem

I never realised bankers have invented cure for the plague!? WOW. You mean they realised plague was spread by fleas on rats all on their own!? again wow.... These bankers are realy smart not only do they take all your money to" look after it- and not pay squat back if they feel like they dont make enough profit" but also cure diseases....

@ no one in particular(general rant mode)

And yes, without bankers there would be a different world. How do you know it would still be middle age??
How do you know the different social model that would have emerged would have been worse? Capitalist society and mentality has given us 2 world wars and the biggest genocide episode humanity has ever know.

How on earth do you corolate the emergance of world bank between advancements in technology is beyond me.

For your information, half the world population DOES still live in the middle ages. See past the end of your own nose and see the state the world is in...

Of course some people will never want to share while others will share their last blanket. The selfish C*NTS just do anything and everything it takes to get in power and stay there.

I never said anything resembling "bankers invented the cure for the plague", now, did I?

@ You did imply that in your post. You implied the banking system is responsible for removing/curing the plague and other technological advancements.

@shoong thank you for you criticism, genral rant mode dwelved too deeply. I was making a point of human anture and the poor use of vulgar language discredited me a bit there. The depravity and greed for humanity in some cases vexes me to no end I am afraid and sometimes I can get off the rails so I do appologise but Im glad you liked most of it. I do stand by what I said.

Im by no means perfect, but I can honestly say I would gladly have less if it meant everyone can have more. Logicaly, if more people thought like this we could achieve something closer to equilibrium.