Last orders for The Hampshire Yeoman

Landlord Richard Clark.

Landlord Richard Clark.

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IT has been at the heart of the local community for more than 50 years.

But planning chiefs have called time on a Hampshire pub after approving proposals to convert the large two-storey building into a convenience store.

The Hampshire Yeoman in Blackfield will close almost immediately with the loss of three jobs and reopen next spring as a Sainsbury’s Local.

New Forest District Council’s decision to back the scheme coincided with yesterday’s announcement that Sainsbury’s saw its profits rise by four per cent to £13.36 billion in the six months to September 29.

The UK’s third largest supermarket group has now enjoyed 31 consecutive quarters of underlying sales growth.

The Hampshire Yeoman scheme had split the village, despite the promise of 25 fulltime and part-time jobs.

Supporters claimed that the pub was an eyesore and a noise nuisance. But critics said that the new store would generate extra traffic, endangering the safety of children walking to and from Blackfield Primary School.

The application was approved by the district council’s planning committee – despite a last-ditch attempt to save the popular watering hole.

Hampshire Yeoman supporter Lynne Burch said: “It’s the only pub in the village and is a really good place to socialise, relax and meet friends. If it goes it will have more impact on the area than you can imagine.”

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Landlord Richard Clark cited the road safety concerns and added: “When kids get hurt, I’ll be the first to say ‘I told you so’.”

But Tom Trenchard, representing Sainsbury’s, said a “high proportion”

of customers would walk to the store.

The committee also heard from Hampshire county councillor Alexis McEvoy, who said that the scheme would jeopardise the survival of small shops in the village.

She added: “The loss of the Hampshire Yeoman, and possibly neighbouring businesses, would be against the public interest.”

But committee members stressed that Sainsbury’s did not need planning permission to turn the bar into a shop.

It only required consent to alter the building and there were no valid reasons for rejecting the proposals, it was claimed.

The company’s application to build a single-storey rear extension and install a new front entrance was approved by 12 votes to three.

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12:33pm Thu 15 Nov 12

loosehead says...

So new jobs on the minimum wage Whoopeee
So new jobs on the minimum wage Whoopeee loosehead
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1:29pm Thu 15 Nov 12

Linesman says...

loosehead wrote:
So new jobs on the minimum wage Whoopeee
As a former Sainsbury employee, I found them to be an excellent employer, who looked after their staff's welfare.

To the best of my knowledge, NONE of their employees are on minimum wage.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: So new jobs on the minimum wage Whoopeee[/p][/quote]As a former Sainsbury employee, I found them to be an excellent employer, who looked after their staff's welfare. To the best of my knowledge, NONE of their employees are on minimum wage. Linesman
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2:28pm Thu 15 Nov 12

bazzeroz says...

Surprise, surprise, another planning permission granted to a superpower sorry, supermarket!
Surprise, surprise, another planning permission granted to a superpower sorry, supermarket! bazzeroz
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2:37pm Thu 15 Nov 12

Of the Ilk says...

When the planning application is made, few people in the local area want a new mini-supermarket. However, once it has opened we all use it!
When the planning application is made, few people in the local area want a new mini-supermarket. However, once it has opened we all use it! Of the Ilk
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2:48pm Thu 15 Nov 12

Dave of Dibden says...

The only lose is a grotty pub
The only lose is a grotty pub Dave of Dibden
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3:24pm Thu 15 Nov 12

Linesman says...

Other than the British Legion, the nearest pub is a mile away.

If this pub had been popular and was turning in a decent profit, then I guess that it would still be a pub and not a supermarket.

It brings to mind the old saying, 'If you don't use it, you lose it.'
Other than the British Legion, the nearest pub is a mile away. If this pub had been popular and was turning in a decent profit, then I guess that it would still be a pub and not a supermarket. It brings to mind the old saying, 'If you don't use it, you lose it.' Linesman
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4:37pm Thu 15 Nov 12

nomoreyeoman says...

I used it and so did a lot of people I know. The Brewery just wanted the £500,000 which they sold it for, despite what the public wanted.
I used it and so did a lot of people I know. The Brewery just wanted the £500,000 which they sold it for, despite what the public wanted. nomoreyeoman
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4:39pm Thu 15 Nov 12

Licky_Rambert says...

“When kids get hurt, I’ll be the first to say ‘I told you so’.” ???

at least go and see if they are alright!
“When kids get hurt, I’ll be the first to say ‘I told you so’.” ??? at least go and see if they are alright! Licky_Rambert
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4:39pm Thu 15 Nov 12

Beer Monster says...

The pub wasn't popular because it had become run down and was essentially being kept afloat by the regulars.

It's a crying shame that rather than regenerate the pub and try to appeal to a wider audience, it's being slaughtered for another convenience store which isn't really required in this location.

You could argue that collectively the greater the competition that supermarket chains have between themselves, the lower their prices will become.

This has the knock on effect that cheaper alcohol will more likely be available to the masses to drink in uncontrolled environments.
The pub wasn't popular because it had become run down and was essentially being kept afloat by the regulars. It's a crying shame that rather than regenerate the pub and try to appeal to a wider audience, it's being slaughtered for another convenience store which isn't really required in this location. You could argue that collectively the greater the competition that supermarket chains have between themselves, the lower their prices will become. This has the knock on effect that cheaper alcohol will more likely be available to the masses to drink in uncontrolled environments. Beer Monster
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4:59pm Thu 15 Nov 12

8089 says...

Linesman wrote:
Other than the British Legion, the nearest pub is a mile away.

If this pub had been popular and was turning in a decent profit, then I guess that it would still be a pub and not a supermarket.

It brings to mind the old saying, 'If you don't use it, you lose it.'
....But it's partly down to supermarkets that people don't use pubs in the first place....Pub beer is way over priced compared to the supermarkets, so people choose to drink at home! It's a shame we keep losing pubs! I don't drink, but I'd rather be able to afford to go out ans socialise in a pub than stay at home....Shame people can't sit around the supermarkets and socialise, get **** and have a laugh!
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: Other than the British Legion, the nearest pub is a mile away. If this pub had been popular and was turning in a decent profit, then I guess that it would still be a pub and not a supermarket. It brings to mind the old saying, 'If you don't use it, you lose it.'[/p][/quote]....But it's partly down to supermarkets that people don't use pubs in the first place....Pub beer is way over priced compared to the supermarkets, so people choose to drink at home! It's a shame we keep losing pubs! I don't drink, but I'd rather be able to afford to go out ans socialise in a pub than stay at home....Shame people can't sit around the supermarkets and socialise, get **** and have a laugh! 8089
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5:57pm Thu 15 Nov 12

loosehead says...

Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
So new jobs on the minimum wage Whoopeee
As a former Sainsbury employee, I found them to be an excellent employer, who looked after their staff's welfare.

To the best of my knowledge, NONE of their employees are on minimum wage.
Funny that I worked for Sainsburies on night Shift & got £6.20 an hour & they treated us like dirt or worse.I know of their workers who have to have tax credits/money from the Government to make their wages up.
I know that some got paid extra for overtime others didn't.
What were you a manager?
I don't know many who would say they're treated well or are well paid ?
You've just proved to me what world you live in & it's called Dream World isn't it?
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: So new jobs on the minimum wage Whoopeee[/p][/quote]As a former Sainsbury employee, I found them to be an excellent employer, who looked after their staff's welfare. To the best of my knowledge, NONE of their employees are on minimum wage.[/p][/quote]Funny that I worked for Sainsburies on night Shift & got £6.20 an hour & they treated us like dirt or worse.I know of their workers who have to have tax credits/money from the Government to make their wages up. I know that some got paid extra for overtime others didn't. What were you a manager? I don't know many who would say they're treated well or are well paid ? You've just proved to me what world you live in & it's called Dream World isn't it? loosehead
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6:58pm Thu 15 Nov 12

huckit P says...

Have you ever applied for a job with Sainsbury's via their website? If you get an interview but don't get selected for the job you cannot apply for another job with Sainsbury's for 6 months.
And as for the comment about more jobs with the minimum wage - it's better than no wage at all. Try unemployment for size!!!
Have you ever applied for a job with Sainsbury's via their website? If you get an interview but don't get selected for the job you cannot apply for another job with Sainsbury's for 6 months. And as for the comment about more jobs with the minimum wage - it's better than no wage at all. Try unemployment for size!!! huckit P
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7:27pm Thu 15 Nov 12

nomoreyeoman says...

Maybe, but who believes 25 jobs are going to be created. There are probably about 10 people at the most in Tesco. The village is too small for two supermarkets so either Sainsbury's will not survive or Tesco will collapse but no way will there be 25 more jobs going. Without a pub, the contractors will probably chose to live elsewhere so less money will be spent in the area anyway.
Maybe, but who believes 25 jobs are going to be created. There are probably about 10 people at the most in Tesco. The village is too small for two supermarkets so either Sainsbury's will not survive or Tesco will collapse but no way will there be 25 more jobs going. Without a pub, the contractors will probably chose to live elsewhere so less money will be spent in the area anyway. nomoreyeoman
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7:40pm Thu 15 Nov 12

peenut81 says...

2 points. Appreciate why alcohol is cheaper in supermarkets, storage, transportation and the ability to sell as loss leaders. The first 2 are activites subbed by general public through taxation to help s/markets make better profit. the 3rd could be banned if people lobbied their MP's enough. 2 point. beer monster, too naive i fear, we just heard about the utiliites stiching up prices, we know banks do it, we suspect petrol giants of doing it it so why not supermarkets, competitionis not a valid argument in favour of what has happened to britain , we are on the cusp of monopoly in almost every aspect of life....
2 points. Appreciate why alcohol is cheaper in supermarkets, storage, transportation and the ability to sell as loss leaders. The first 2 are activites subbed by general public through taxation to help s/markets make better profit. the 3rd could be banned if people lobbied their MP's enough. 2 point. beer monster, too naive i fear, we just heard about the utiliites stiching up prices, we know banks do it, we suspect petrol giants of doing it it so why not supermarkets, competitionis not a valid argument in favour of what has happened to britain , we are on the cusp of monopoly in almost every aspect of life.... peenut81
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9:16pm Thu 15 Nov 12

loosehead says...

huckit P wrote:
Have you ever applied for a job with Sainsbury's via their website? If you get an interview but don't get selected for the job you cannot apply for another job with Sainsbury's for 6 months.
And as for the comment about more jobs with the minimum wage - it's better than no wage at all. Try unemployment for size!!!
Yes I have! Also it was printed as if this was a super dooper job creator but is it?
I was trying to make the point that the wages these people could earn isn't that great.
But with cheap alcohol easily obtained by young people which they wouldn't obtain from the pub it could cost you more through damage done & policing
[quote][p][bold]huckit P[/bold] wrote: Have you ever applied for a job with Sainsbury's via their website? If you get an interview but don't get selected for the job you cannot apply for another job with Sainsbury's for 6 months. And as for the comment about more jobs with the minimum wage - it's better than no wage at all. Try unemployment for size!!![/p][/quote]Yes I have! Also it was printed as if this was a super dooper job creator but is it? I was trying to make the point that the wages these people could earn isn't that great. But with cheap alcohol easily obtained by young people which they wouldn't obtain from the pub it could cost you more through damage done & policing loosehead
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9:59pm Thu 15 Nov 12

IronLady2010 says...

How on earth do Sainsbury's expect to make any profit from this location? Most of the stock will walk out the door before it even gets near the checkout! Did they not do any research?
How on earth do Sainsbury's expect to make any profit from this location? Most of the stock will walk out the door before it even gets near the checkout! Did they not do any research? IronLady2010
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10:53pm Thu 15 Nov 12

Linesman says...

loosehead wrote:
Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
So new jobs on the minimum wage Whoopeee
As a former Sainsbury employee, I found them to be an excellent employer, who looked after their staff's welfare.

To the best of my knowledge, NONE of their employees are on minimum wage.
Funny that I worked for Sainsburies on night Shift & got £6.20 an hour & they treated us like dirt or worse.I know of their workers who have to have tax credits/money from the Government to make their wages up.
I know that some got paid extra for overtime others didn't.
What were you a manager?
I don't know many who would say they're treated well or are well paid ?
You've just proved to me what world you live in & it's called Dream World isn't it?
There are always exceptions.

They probably paid you what they thought you were worth.

I assume that you thought that was acceptable, otherwise you would not have taken the job.

No. I was not a manager, but was check-out trained and also worked on provisions. After a period I also qualified for staff discount.
[quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: So new jobs on the minimum wage Whoopeee[/p][/quote]As a former Sainsbury employee, I found them to be an excellent employer, who looked after their staff's welfare. To the best of my knowledge, NONE of their employees are on minimum wage.[/p][/quote]Funny that I worked for Sainsburies on night Shift & got £6.20 an hour & they treated us like dirt or worse.I know of their workers who have to have tax credits/money from the Government to make their wages up. I know that some got paid extra for overtime others didn't. What were you a manager? I don't know many who would say they're treated well or are well paid ? You've just proved to me what world you live in & it's called Dream World isn't it?[/p][/quote]There are always exceptions. They probably paid you what they thought you were worth. I assume that you thought that was acceptable, otherwise you would not have taken the job. No. I was not a manager, but was check-out trained and also worked on provisions. After a period I also qualified for staff discount. Linesman
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7:13am Fri 16 Nov 12

loosehead says...

Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
Linesman wrote:
loosehead wrote:
So new jobs on the minimum wage Whoopeee
As a former Sainsbury employee, I found them to be an excellent employer, who looked after their staff's welfare.

To the best of my knowledge, NONE of their employees are on minimum wage.
Funny that I worked for Sainsburies on night Shift & got £6.20 an hour & they treated us like dirt or worse.I know of their workers who have to have tax credits/money from the Government to make their wages up.
I know that some got paid extra for overtime others didn't.
What were you a manager?
I don't know many who would say they're treated well or are well paid ?
You've just proved to me what world you live in & it's called Dream World isn't it?
There are always exceptions.

They probably paid you what they thought you were worth.

I assume that you thought that was acceptable, otherwise you would not have taken the job.

No. I was not a manager, but was check-out trained and also worked on provisions. After a period I also qualified for staff discount.
Linesman I was looking at paying my mortgage off early so I didn't need the money to live on.
I worked with a guy I went to school with he didn't want state money he worked 7 days a week with no overtime payment but the guy working with him got overtime as he had started a week earlier & they had stopped it the next week?
that guy made himself so ill he went to hospital.
at night( not check out) they turn off all heating but still have the chillers & freezer units going.
they then threaten you with a warning if you put on your coat but you get a warning if your off sick so it's a no win policy.
I was lifting Soft drinks in the cold & pulled my shoulder muscles where I was cold.
I went to work after taking pain killers but even then I couldn't lift even toilet rolls.
I had one day off I went back to work & was given my one & only warning as my supervisor once again had failed to put the injury down in the accident book as in the case of me cutting my hand on broken glass.
I don't know you but what do you mean pay you what your worth?
I am an extremely hard worker & my ex manager has asked me to re-apply to work there so I couldn't have been that bad can I
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]loosehead[/bold] wrote: So new jobs on the minimum wage Whoopeee[/p][/quote]As a former Sainsbury employee, I found them to be an excellent employer, who looked after their staff's welfare. To the best of my knowledge, NONE of their employees are on minimum wage.[/p][/quote]Funny that I worked for Sainsburies on night Shift & got £6.20 an hour & they treated us like dirt or worse.I know of their workers who have to have tax credits/money from the Government to make their wages up. I know that some got paid extra for overtime others didn't. What were you a manager? I don't know many who would say they're treated well or are well paid ? You've just proved to me what world you live in & it's called Dream World isn't it?[/p][/quote]There are always exceptions. They probably paid you what they thought you were worth. I assume that you thought that was acceptable, otherwise you would not have taken the job. No. I was not a manager, but was check-out trained and also worked on provisions. After a period I also qualified for staff discount.[/p][/quote]Linesman I was looking at paying my mortgage off early so I didn't need the money to live on. I worked with a guy I went to school with he didn't want state money he worked 7 days a week with no overtime payment but the guy working with him got overtime as he had started a week earlier & they had stopped it the next week? that guy made himself so ill he went to hospital. at night( not check out) they turn off all heating but still have the chillers & freezer units going. they then threaten you with a warning if you put on your coat but you get a warning if your off sick so it's a no win policy. I was lifting Soft drinks in the cold & pulled my shoulder muscles where I was cold. I went to work after taking pain killers but even then I couldn't lift even toilet rolls. I had one day off I went back to work & was given my one & only warning as my supervisor once again had failed to put the injury down in the accident book as in the case of me cutting my hand on broken glass. I don't know you but what do you mean pay you what your worth? I am an extremely hard worker & my ex manager has asked me to re-apply to work there so I couldn't have been that bad can I loosehead
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6:53pm Fri 16 Nov 12

Rob4806 says...

Gutted!

Good pub! Good people!

No denying the pubs needs a facelift, but with decent investment could have been superb family pub with garden etc etc.

Besides 25 new jobs will soon become 5 once they put those annoying self service tills in there!

20 local shops will soon become two!

Car parking will be charged sooner or later..... The list will go on!
Gutted! Good pub! Good people! No denying the pubs needs a facelift, but with decent investment could have been superb family pub with garden etc etc. Besides 25 new jobs will soon become 5 once they put those annoying self service tills in there! 20 local shops will soon become two! Car parking will be charged sooner or later..... The list will go on! Rob4806
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