Call to make pupils clean teeth at school instead of adding fluoride to tapwater

Daily Echo: John Spottiswoode of Hampshire Against Fluoridation. John Spottiswoode of Hampshire Against Fluoridation.

PUPILS should be made to brush their teeth at school every morning to improve their dental health.

That is the call from campaigners fighting controversial plans to put fluoride in Hampshire tap water. Instead they want health chiefs to introduce the radical classroom scheme, which is proving successful elsewhere in the UK.

An initiative to make pupils brush their teeth at school is already being trialled in Greater Manchester after a similar successful project in Glasgow.

A teachers’ representative last night joined anti-fluoride campaigners in backing the idea for Southampton as a targeted way of cutting tooth decay in children, which is particularly bad in more deprived areas.

But health bosses have rejected the scheme, insisting it would have nowhere near the impact of fluoridating water supplies.

Teachers in Rochdale, which has some of the highest levels of tooth decay in children, have been overseeing five- to seven- year-olds brushing their teeth as part of the morning routine in schools.

If the project proves successful it will be extended throughout Manchester.

It comes after a similar scheme in Glasgow saw a huge drop in the number of rotten teeth children were suffering.

Hampshire Against Fluoridation chairman John Spottiswoode said he believes a targeted initiative would be much better than fluoridation, which he argues will not work, does not cover all the areas where dental health levels are bad and violates individuals’ right to choice.

He said the campaign group is working to get those behind Glasgow’s Child Smile scheme to come to Southampton to discuss its benefits.

Mr Spottiswoode said “It’s more cost effective than fluoridation, because it is actually effective.

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“It’s targeting children who are the key people to get into good habits. Once they get into those habits they get into them for life.

“If you target the right people that delivers results, as has been shown in Glasgow.”

Southampton’s National Union of Teachers representative Pete Sopowski said he believed teachers would back a scheme to improve children’s dental health.

He said: “With parents’ consent it’s a good idea. Young children need to be taught routines like hand washing before meals.

“The reality is most kids get up, have their breakfast and shove off.

“It could be a requirement of coming to the breakfast club.

“Most teachers would be in favour.”

But Southampton’s director of public health, Dr Andrew Mortimore, said targeted schemes have not been successful enough, which is why moves have been made towards fluoridating water supplies in parts of Southampton, Eastleigh, Totton, Netley and Rownhams.

He said: “Supervised toothbrushing, along with other targeted interventions, have been carried out in Southampton for many years now.

“These have achieved small local improvements, but have not brought about population-level improvements in dental health.”

“A local water fluoridation scheme will benefit everyone who has access to it.

“Our targeted oral health promotion initiatives will continue within the groups with the highest needs.

“Other areas across the country which have implemented fluoridation schemes, primarily in the West Midlands, have achieved some of the best dental health in the country with this combination of methods.

“We want to achieve those same benefits here in Southampton, particularly for children.”

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4:29pm Mon 19 Nov 12

OSPREYSAINT says...

As long as the tooth-paste does not contain fluoride, there are serious restrictions on the amount that a child should be exposed to. If our water supply is to be subject to being poisoned, special care must be taken not to create more problems through overdosing.
As long as the tooth-paste does not contain fluoride, there are serious restrictions on the amount that a child should be exposed to. If our water supply is to be subject to being poisoned, special care must be taken not to create more problems through overdosing. OSPREYSAINT

4:41pm Mon 19 Nov 12

Linesman says...

It is not a school's responsibility to get children to clean their teeth, it is the responsibility of the child's parents or guardian.

Give them the added protection of fluoride in their water.
It is not a school's responsibility to get children to clean their teeth, it is the responsibility of the child's parents or guardian. Give them the added protection of fluoride in their water. Linesman

4:45pm Mon 19 Nov 12

Lockssmart says...

Can we just leave them at school on a Monday and pick them up on Friday? Ever since teachers got professional status, they all think they are gods now.
Can we just leave them at school on a Monday and pick them up on Friday? Ever since teachers got professional status, they all think they are gods now. Lockssmart

5:16pm Mon 19 Nov 12

jwillie6 says...

They basically use the public water supply as a sewer for industrial wastes and since there is money to be made, the vicious cycle has continued for decades.

"When historians come to write about this period, they will single out fluoridation as the single biggest mistake in public policy that we've ever had."

- Paul Connett, PhD, Biochemistry
They basically use the public water supply as a sewer for industrial wastes and since there is money to be made, the vicious cycle has continued for decades. "When historians come to write about this period, they will single out fluoridation as the single biggest mistake in public policy that we've ever had." - Paul Connett, PhD, Biochemistry jwillie6

5:21pm Mon 19 Nov 12

Gainer T Gopher says...

This already happens in a number of schools in Southampton.... along with washing the childrens clothes and supplying showering facilities....
This already happens in a number of schools in Southampton.... along with washing the childrens clothes and supplying showering facilities.... Gainer T Gopher

5:21pm Mon 19 Nov 12

Gainer T Gopher says...

This already happens in a number of schools in Southampton.... along with washing the childrens clothes and supplying showering facilities....
This already happens in a number of schools in Southampton.... along with washing the childrens clothes and supplying showering facilities.... Gainer T Gopher

5:31pm Mon 19 Nov 12

bigfella777 says...

They should be made to brush them at home by their parents before they go to school.
They should be made to brush them at home by their parents before they go to school. bigfella777

5:43pm Mon 19 Nov 12

Gainer T Gopher says...

bigfella777 wrote:
They should be made to brush them at home by their parents before they go to school.
That's all well and good with the kids who's parents give a ****.... there are a fair few parents out there that are so stoned or drunk that they wouldn't even notice if the kids left for school....
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: They should be made to brush them at home by their parents before they go to school.[/p][/quote]That's all well and good with the kids who's parents give a ****.... there are a fair few parents out there that are so stoned or drunk that they wouldn't even notice if the kids left for school.... Gainer T Gopher

5:55pm Mon 19 Nov 12

SaintM says...

when the flouride is put in the water they will have no teeth left to brush anyway
when the flouride is put in the water they will have no teeth left to brush anyway SaintM

5:55pm Mon 19 Nov 12

SaintM says...

when the flouride is put in the water they will have no teeth left to brush anyway
when the flouride is put in the water they will have no teeth left to brush anyway SaintM

6:46pm Mon 19 Nov 12

dolomiteman says...

About brushing teeth at home and not feeding your kids junk food and sweets or would that be against their human rights?
About brushing teeth at home and not feeding your kids junk food and sweets or would that be against their human rights? dolomiteman

7:15pm Mon 19 Nov 12

good-gosh says...

And the schools could wash the bottoms of these poor little waifs, cut toe nails and shampoo hair while at it. Maybe the Red Cross could call from house to house to cover the holidays and weekends.
And the schools could wash the bottoms of these poor little waifs, cut toe nails and shampoo hair while at it. Maybe the Red Cross could call from house to house to cover the holidays and weekends. good-gosh

7:18pm Mon 19 Nov 12

The Watcher says...

Whatever happened to personal & parental responsibility?
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I want teachers to be teaching my children, not being surrogate parents to those who can't be bothered.
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A teacher friend of mine is already fed up with having to be pretend parents without throwing extra responsibilities on them.
Whatever happened to personal & parental responsibility? . I want teachers to be teaching my children, not being surrogate parents to those who can't be bothered. . A teacher friend of mine is already fed up with having to be pretend parents without throwing extra responsibilities on them. The Watcher

7:23pm Mon 19 Nov 12

VictorMeldrew says...

Dr Mortimer says a local fluoridation scheme will benefit everyone who has access to it.
Please tell me exactly how it will benefit me, a 60 year old man who brushes his teeth every day and has not had a filling for years.
Dr Mortimer says a local fluoridation scheme will benefit everyone who has access to it. Please tell me exactly how it will benefit me, a 60 year old man who brushes his teeth every day and has not had a filling for years. VictorMeldrew

7:23pm Mon 19 Nov 12

VictorMeldrew says...

Dr Mortimer says a local fluoridation scheme will benefit everyone who has access to it.
Please tell me exactly how it will benefit me, a 60 year old man who brushes his teeth every day and has not had a filling for years.
Dr Mortimer says a local fluoridation scheme will benefit everyone who has access to it. Please tell me exactly how it will benefit me, a 60 year old man who brushes his teeth every day and has not had a filling for years. VictorMeldrew

7:27pm Mon 19 Nov 12

chunky_lover says...

haha i know that guy!!!
haha i know that guy!!! chunky_lover

7:36pm Mon 19 Nov 12

bigfella777 says...

You dont need teeth to suck a McDonalds anyway.
You dont need teeth to suck a McDonalds anyway. bigfella777

7:42pm Mon 19 Nov 12

jwillie6 says...

Applied externally to teeth may work, but fluoride in drinking water is neither a nutrient nor essential for healthy teeth. No adult has ever walked out of their doctor's office with a prescription for the fluoride drug because it is deadly poison and the body has no known use for it. It is never included in any multi-vitamin formulation. Drinking it to prevent tooth decay is as foolish as drinking sunscreen to prevent sunburn. Every fluoride toothpaste tube carries the warning "if swallowed, call a poison control center." 50% of all fluoride you consume builds up in the body, in the bones, brains and other organs, so exactly why would adults want to take this poisonous drug in every glass of water every day for the rest of their lives.
Applied externally to teeth may work, but fluoride in drinking water is neither a nutrient nor essential for healthy teeth. No adult has ever walked out of their doctor's office with a prescription for the fluoride drug because it is deadly poison and the body has no known use for it. It is never included in any multi-vitamin formulation. Drinking it to prevent tooth decay is as foolish as drinking sunscreen to prevent sunburn. Every fluoride toothpaste tube carries the warning "if swallowed, call a poison control center." 50% of all fluoride you consume builds up in the body, in the bones, brains and other organs, so exactly why would adults want to take this poisonous drug in every glass of water every day for the rest of their lives. jwillie6

7:54pm Mon 19 Nov 12

peenut81 says...

People who oppose nanny state normally seem to be very keen on the state allowing a non accountable body, soon to be disbanded poisoning our communal water supply.

Its all very well saying its the parent's responsibility but they're not listening to you, why should children suffer for their parents ignorance/neglect.

Tackling poverty and health issues requires early intervention so as to instil good habits many of us take for granted. If we want to break the cycle of having such a large underclass which many posters on here have such profound discrimination against then the solution is to invest in projects now, not keep screaming '' well the parents, they should do it anyway'' , because they won't.
People who oppose nanny state normally seem to be very keen on the state allowing a non accountable body, soon to be disbanded poisoning our communal water supply. Its all very well saying its the parent's responsibility but they're not listening to you, why should children suffer for their parents ignorance/neglect. Tackling poverty and health issues requires early intervention so as to instil good habits many of us take for granted. If we want to break the cycle of having such a large underclass which many posters on here have such profound discrimination against then the solution is to invest in projects now, not keep screaming '' well the parents, they should do it anyway'' , because they won't. peenut81

8:19pm Mon 19 Nov 12

Linesman says...

VictorMeldrew wrote:
Dr Mortimer says a local fluoridation scheme will benefit everyone who has access to it.
Please tell me exactly how it will benefit me, a 60 year old man who brushes his teeth every day and has not had a filling for years.
That is probably because the teeth that were filled years ago, have long since been pulled out, and his false teeth would be unaffected by fluoridation.

Next question?
[quote][p][bold]VictorMeldrew[/bold] wrote: Dr Mortimer says a local fluoridation scheme will benefit everyone who has access to it. Please tell me exactly how it will benefit me, a 60 year old man who brushes his teeth every day and has not had a filling for years.[/p][/quote]That is probably because the teeth that were filled years ago, have long since been pulled out, and his false teeth would be unaffected by fluoridation. Next question? Linesman

8:32pm Mon 19 Nov 12

Graeme Harrison says...

jwillie6 wrote:
Applied externally to teeth may work, but fluoride in drinking water is neither a nutrient nor essential for healthy teeth. No adult has ever walked out of their doctor's office with a prescription for the fluoride drug because it is deadly poison and the body has no known use for it. It is never included in any multi-vitamin formulation. Drinking it to prevent tooth decay is as foolish as drinking sunscreen to prevent sunburn. Every fluoride toothpaste tube carries the warning "if swallowed, call a poison control center." 50% of all fluoride you consume builds up in the body, in the bones, brains and other organs, so exactly why would adults want to take this poisonous drug in every glass of water every day for the rest of their lives.
'doctor's office'? Do we have those here. I thought they were surgeries.

'Every fluoride toothpaste tube carries the warning "if swallowed, call a poison control center."' I'm not sure what a 'center' is and my toothpaste doesn't carry any such warning.

Could it be that you're talking through your arse?
[quote][p][bold]jwillie6[/bold] wrote: Applied externally to teeth may work, but fluoride in drinking water is neither a nutrient nor essential for healthy teeth. No adult has ever walked out of their doctor's office with a prescription for the fluoride drug because it is deadly poison and the body has no known use for it. It is never included in any multi-vitamin formulation. Drinking it to prevent tooth decay is as foolish as drinking sunscreen to prevent sunburn. Every fluoride toothpaste tube carries the warning "if swallowed, call a poison control center." 50% of all fluoride you consume builds up in the body, in the bones, brains and other organs, so exactly why would adults want to take this poisonous drug in every glass of water every day for the rest of their lives.[/p][/quote]'doctor's office'? Do we have those here. I thought they were surgeries. 'Every fluoride toothpaste tube carries the warning "if swallowed, call a poison control center."' I'm not sure what a 'center' is and my toothpaste doesn't carry any such warning. Could it be that you're talking through your arse? Graeme Harrison

9:27pm Mon 19 Nov 12

Dan Soton says...

What's the argument.. Supervised toothbrushing is more costeffective than fluoridation.

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Dr Andrew Mortimore is supposedly obsessed with saving money yet he will not contact Teachers in Manchester or Glasgow?


Google... Dr Andrew Mortimore cost effective.

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http://tinyurl.com/c
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I can only conclude Dr Andrew Mortimore is a two faced fool
What's the argument.. Supervised toothbrushing is more costeffective than fluoridation. - Dr Andrew Mortimore is supposedly obsessed with saving money yet he will not contact Teachers in Manchester or Glasgow? Google... Dr Andrew Mortimore cost effective. - http://tinyurl.com/c wv6q9p - I can only conclude Dr Andrew Mortimore is a two faced fool Dan Soton

9:42pm Mon 19 Nov 12

dolomiteman says...

Graeme Harrison wrote:
jwillie6 wrote:
Applied externally to teeth may work, but fluoride in drinking water is neither a nutrient nor essential for healthy teeth. No adult has ever walked out of their doctor's office with a prescription for the fluoride drug because it is deadly poison and the body has no known use for it. It is never included in any multi-vitamin formulation. Drinking it to prevent tooth decay is as foolish as drinking sunscreen to prevent sunburn. Every fluoride toothpaste tube carries the warning "if swallowed, call a poison control center." 50% of all fluoride you consume builds up in the body, in the bones, brains and other organs, so exactly why would adults want to take this poisonous drug in every glass of water every day for the rest of their lives.
'doctor's office'? Do we have those here. I thought they were surgeries.

'Every fluoride toothpaste tube carries the warning "if swallowed, call a poison control center."' I'm not sure what a 'center' is and my toothpaste doesn't carry any such warning.

Could it be that you're talking through your arse?
Or maybe he lives in the good ol' USA where they do have such warnings.
[quote][p][bold]Graeme Harrison[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jwillie6[/bold] wrote: Applied externally to teeth may work, but fluoride in drinking water is neither a nutrient nor essential for healthy teeth. No adult has ever walked out of their doctor's office with a prescription for the fluoride drug because it is deadly poison and the body has no known use for it. It is never included in any multi-vitamin formulation. Drinking it to prevent tooth decay is as foolish as drinking sunscreen to prevent sunburn. Every fluoride toothpaste tube carries the warning "if swallowed, call a poison control center." 50% of all fluoride you consume builds up in the body, in the bones, brains and other organs, so exactly why would adults want to take this poisonous drug in every glass of water every day for the rest of their lives.[/p][/quote]'doctor's office'? Do we have those here. I thought they were surgeries. 'Every fluoride toothpaste tube carries the warning "if swallowed, call a poison control center."' I'm not sure what a 'center' is and my toothpaste doesn't carry any such warning. Could it be that you're talking through your arse?[/p][/quote]Or maybe he lives in the good ol' USA where they do have such warnings. dolomiteman

9:48pm Mon 19 Nov 12

dolomiteman says...

Dan Soton says...

'What's the argument.. Supervised toothbrushing is more costeffective than fluoridation?'


Surely the most cost effective way is for the parents of the kids to make sure their own kids brush their teeth.
I'm sure thats what our parents used to do?
Dan Soton says... 'What's the argument.. Supervised toothbrushing is more costeffective than fluoridation?' Surely the most cost effective way is for the parents of the kids to make sure their own kids brush their teeth. I'm sure thats what our parents used to do? dolomiteman

10:23pm Mon 19 Nov 12

Dan Soton says...

dolomiteman wrote:
Dan Soton says...

'What's the argument.. Supervised toothbrushing is more costeffective than fluoridation?'


Surely the most cost effective way is for the parents of the kids to make sure their own kids brush their teeth.
I'm sure thats what our parents used to do?
dolomiteman..


sure, if the kids have a dad or a mum.
[quote][p][bold]dolomiteman[/bold] wrote: Dan Soton says... 'What's the argument.. Supervised toothbrushing is more costeffective than fluoridation?' Surely the most cost effective way is for the parents of the kids to make sure their own kids brush their teeth. I'm sure thats what our parents used to do?[/p][/quote]dolomiteman.. sure, if the kids have a dad or a mum. Dan Soton

10:57pm Mon 19 Nov 12

jojotgirl says...

Whatever next? I am quite capable of making sure my children brush their teeth properly after breakfast in the morning and before bedtime (yes, shock / horror my kids have a bedtime!) When I deliver my children to school in the morning (in good time and smartly dressed) it is to learn and absolutely not to have my parenting skills undermined. Get a grip. Skanky, lazy parents will exist and create monsters whether you make kids halfheartedly clean their teeth at school or not! I would, however, call for the return of the nit nurse! Always one child re infecting the whole class !
Whatever next? I am quite capable of making sure my children brush their teeth properly after breakfast in the morning and before bedtime (yes, shock / horror my kids have a bedtime!) When I deliver my children to school in the morning (in good time and smartly dressed) it is to learn and absolutely not to have my parenting skills undermined. Get a grip. Skanky, lazy parents will exist and create monsters whether you make kids halfheartedly clean their teeth at school or not! I would, however, call for the return of the nit nurse! Always one child re infecting the whole class ! jojotgirl

11:18pm Mon 19 Nov 12

dolomiteman says...

Dan Soton wrote:
dolomiteman wrote:
Dan Soton says...

'What's the argument.. Supervised toothbrushing is more costeffective than fluoridation?'


Surely the most cost effective way is for the parents of the kids to make sure their own kids brush their teeth.
I'm sure thats what our parents used to do?
dolomiteman..


sure, if the kids have a dad or a mum.
What the hell have you been smoking Dan, those very few that don't have a mum or dad to look after them have other people to do so and they are not school teachers.
Okay so a part of schooling is teaching about personal grooming and hygeine but it is not the teachers job to make sure all the kids brush their teeth everyday. what are the kids going to do on non school days?
[quote][p][bold]Dan Soton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dolomiteman[/bold] wrote: Dan Soton says... 'What's the argument.. Supervised toothbrushing is more costeffective than fluoridation?' Surely the most cost effective way is for the parents of the kids to make sure their own kids brush their teeth. I'm sure thats what our parents used to do?[/p][/quote]dolomiteman.. sure, if the kids have a dad or a mum.[/p][/quote]What the hell have you been smoking Dan, those very few that don't have a mum or dad to look after them have other people to do so and they are not school teachers. Okay so a part of schooling is teaching about personal grooming and hygeine but it is not the teachers job to make sure all the kids brush their teeth everyday. what are the kids going to do on non school days? dolomiteman

11:57pm Mon 19 Nov 12

Dan Soton says...

dolomiteman wrote:
Dan Soton wrote:
dolomiteman wrote:
Dan Soton says...

'What's the argument.. Supervised toothbrushing is more costeffective than fluoridation?'


Surely the most cost effective way is for the parents of the kids to make sure their own kids brush their teeth.
I'm sure thats what our parents used to do?
dolomiteman..


sure, if the kids have a dad or a mum.
What the hell have you been smoking Dan, those very few that don't have a mum or dad to look after them have other people to do so and they are not school teachers.
Okay so a part of schooling is teaching about personal grooming and hygeine but it is not the teachers job to make sure all the kids brush their teeth everyday. what are the kids going to do on non school days?
dolomiteman


I take you don't think Dr Andrew Mortimore is a two faced fool
[quote][p][bold]dolomiteman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dan Soton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dolomiteman[/bold] wrote: Dan Soton says... 'What's the argument.. Supervised toothbrushing is more costeffective than fluoridation?' Surely the most cost effective way is for the parents of the kids to make sure their own kids brush their teeth. I'm sure thats what our parents used to do?[/p][/quote]dolomiteman.. sure, if the kids have a dad or a mum.[/p][/quote]What the hell have you been smoking Dan, those very few that don't have a mum or dad to look after them have other people to do so and they are not school teachers. Okay so a part of schooling is teaching about personal grooming and hygeine but it is not the teachers job to make sure all the kids brush their teeth everyday. what are the kids going to do on non school days?[/p][/quote]dolomiteman I take you don't think Dr Andrew Mortimore is a two faced fool Dan Soton

1:58am Tue 20 Nov 12

Dan Soton says...

Dan Soton wrote:
What's the argument.. Supervised toothbrushing is more costeffective than fluoridation.

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Dr Andrew Mortimore is supposedly obsessed with saving money yet he will not contact Teachers in Manchester or Glasgow?


Google... Dr Andrew Mortimore cost effective.

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http://tinyurl.com/c

wv6q9p
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I can only conclude Dr Andrew Mortimore is a two faced fool
Dr Andrew Mortimore says... the West Midlands, have achieved some of the best dental health in the country



please correct me if I'm wrong...

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West Midlands, Birmingham, Solihull first fluoridation scheme started in 1964.

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http://tinyurl.com/c
5wll2g


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5-year-old Survey 2007/08 - Primary Care Trust Data

Percentage of children with the presence of one or more dental abscess or sinuses

WEST MIDLANDS , BIRMINGHAM, SOLIHULL 2.5%



5-year-old Survey 2007/08 - Primary Care Trust Data

Percentage of children with the presence of one or more dental abscess or sinuses

SOUTHAMPTON CITY 1.3%

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http://www.nwph.net/
dentalhealth/reports
/NHS_DEP_for_England
_OH_Survey_5yr_2007-
08_PCT_Results_Table
.pdf


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I can only conclude Dr Andrew Mortimore is a two faced fool
[quote][p][bold]Dan Soton[/bold] wrote: What's the argument.. Supervised toothbrushing is more costeffective than fluoridation. - Dr Andrew Mortimore is supposedly obsessed with saving money yet he will not contact Teachers in Manchester or Glasgow? Google... Dr Andrew Mortimore cost effective. - http://tinyurl.com/c wv6q9p - I can only conclude Dr Andrew Mortimore is a two faced fool[/p][/quote]Dr Andrew Mortimore says... the West Midlands, have achieved some of the best dental health in the country please correct me if I'm wrong... - West Midlands, Birmingham, Solihull first fluoridation scheme started in 1964. - http://tinyurl.com/c 5wll2g - 5-year-old Survey 2007/08 - Primary Care Trust Data Percentage of children with the presence of one or more dental abscess or sinuses WEST MIDLANDS , BIRMINGHAM, SOLIHULL 2.5% 5-year-old Survey 2007/08 - Primary Care Trust Data Percentage of children with the presence of one or more dental abscess or sinuses SOUTHAMPTON CITY 1.3% - http://www.nwph.net/ dentalhealth/reports /NHS_DEP_for_England _OH_Survey_5yr_2007- 08_PCT_Results_Table .pdf - I can only conclude Dr Andrew Mortimore is a two faced fool Dan Soton

2:21am Tue 20 Nov 12

VictorMeldrew says...

Linesman wrote:
VictorMeldrew wrote:
Dr Mortimer says a local fluoridation scheme will benefit everyone who has access to it.
Please tell me exactly how it will benefit me, a 60 year old man who brushes his teeth every day and has not had a filling for years.
That is probably because the teeth that were filled years ago, have long since been pulled out, and his false teeth would be unaffected by fluoridation.

Next question?
Wrong Linesman. Teeth are all home grown. If they were dentures I'd still like to know what benefits I'd get from drinking fluoridated water.
In fact, even if it were accepted there are any benefits the vast majority's people drinking the water would get none. It was said in the consultation that fluoride would benefit people who drink fluoridated water for the whole of their lives. So most of the population will not benefit. Visitors to Southampton will not benefit. Most of the water will go down the drains without coming into contact with a human. Just more lies Dr. Mortimer. More incompetence. 
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VictorMeldrew[/bold] wrote: Dr Mortimer says a local fluoridation scheme will benefit everyone who has access to it. Please tell me exactly how it will benefit me, a 60 year old man who brushes his teeth every day and has not had a filling for years.[/p][/quote]That is probably because the teeth that were filled years ago, have long since been pulled out, and his false teeth would be unaffected by fluoridation. Next question?[/p][/quote]Wrong Linesman. Teeth are all home grown. If they were dentures I'd still like to know what benefits I'd get from drinking fluoridated water. In fact, even if it were accepted there are any benefits the vast majority's people drinking the water would get none. It was said in the consultation that fluoride would benefit people who drink fluoridated water for the whole of their lives. So most of the population will not benefit. Visitors to Southampton will not benefit. Most of the water will go down the drains without coming into contact with a human. Just more lies Dr. Mortimer. More incompetence.  VictorMeldrew

4:30am Tue 20 Nov 12

Peggy T says...

Good dental habits will not achieve optimal dental health.

Studies have demonstrated that community water fluoridation reduces cavities an additional 20-40% over the use of all other sources of fluoride.

That translates to one less cavity every three years. And those cavities, over time, are apt to turn into caps, root canals, and tooth loss.

People need the safe ingestion of fluoride via drinking water so that fluoride ions are present in the saliva in sufficient quantity to remineralize teeth continually.
Good dental habits will not achieve optimal dental health. Studies have demonstrated that community water fluoridation reduces cavities an additional 20-40% over the use of all other sources of fluoride. That translates to one less cavity every three years. And those cavities, over time, are apt to turn into caps, root canals, and tooth loss. People need the safe ingestion of fluoride via drinking water so that fluoride ions are present in the saliva in sufficient quantity to remineralize teeth continually. Peggy T

5:35am Tue 20 Nov 12

Dan Soton says...

Dan Soton wrote:
Dan Soton wrote:
What's the argument.. Supervised toothbrushing is more costeffective than fluoridation.

-

Dr Andrew Mortimore is supposedly obsessed with saving money yet he will not contact Teachers in Manchester or Glasgow?


Google... Dr Andrew Mortimore cost effective.

-

http://tinyurl.com/c


wv6q9p
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I can only conclude Dr Andrew Mortimore is a two faced fool
Dr Andrew Mortimore says... the West Midlands, have achieved some of the best dental health in the country



please correct me if I'm wrong...

-


West Midlands, Birmingham, Solihull first fluoridation scheme started in 1964.

-

http://tinyurl.com/c

5wll2g


-


5-year-old Survey 2007/08 - Primary Care Trust Data

Percentage of children with the presence of one or more dental abscess or sinuses

WEST MIDLANDS , BIRMINGHAM, SOLIHULL 2.5%



5-year-old Survey 2007/08 - Primary Care Trust Data

Percentage of children with the presence of one or more dental abscess or sinuses

SOUTHAMPTON CITY 1.3%

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http://www.nwph.net/

dentalhealth/reports

/NHS_DEP_for_England

_OH_Survey_5yr_2007-

08_PCT_Results_Table

.pdf


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I can only conclude Dr Andrew Mortimore is a two faced fool
Time to go Dr Andrew Mortimore.. what difference have you made?

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Dr Andrew Mortimore has worked locally for the last twenty years, Yet Portsmouth and Southampton have near identical dental health statistics.

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http://www.southampt
onhealth.nhs.uk/abou
tus/whoweare/tb/exec
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South East.. 5-year-old survey results, 2007/08.

Portsmouth and Southampton have near identical dental health statistics.

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http://www.nwph.net/
dentalhealth/profile
.aspx?id=la&region=J
[quote][p][bold]Dan Soton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dan Soton[/bold] wrote: What's the argument.. Supervised toothbrushing is more costeffective than fluoridation. - Dr Andrew Mortimore is supposedly obsessed with saving money yet he will not contact Teachers in Manchester or Glasgow? Google... Dr Andrew Mortimore cost effective. - http://tinyurl.com/c wv6q9p - I can only conclude Dr Andrew Mortimore is a two faced fool[/p][/quote]Dr Andrew Mortimore says... the West Midlands, have achieved some of the best dental health in the country please correct me if I'm wrong... - West Midlands, Birmingham, Solihull first fluoridation scheme started in 1964. - http://tinyurl.com/c 5wll2g - 5-year-old Survey 2007/08 - Primary Care Trust Data Percentage of children with the presence of one or more dental abscess or sinuses WEST MIDLANDS , BIRMINGHAM, SOLIHULL 2.5% 5-year-old Survey 2007/08 - Primary Care Trust Data Percentage of children with the presence of one or more dental abscess or sinuses SOUTHAMPTON CITY 1.3% - http://www.nwph.net/ dentalhealth/reports /NHS_DEP_for_England _OH_Survey_5yr_2007- 08_PCT_Results_Table .pdf - I can only conclude Dr Andrew Mortimore is a two faced fool[/p][/quote]Time to go Dr Andrew Mortimore.. what difference have you made? - Dr Andrew Mortimore has worked locally for the last twenty years, Yet Portsmouth and Southampton have near identical dental health statistics. - http://www.southampt onhealth.nhs.uk/abou tus/whoweare/tb/exec / - South East.. 5-year-old survey results, 2007/08. Portsmouth and Southampton have near identical dental health statistics. - http://www.nwph.net/ dentalhealth/profile .aspx?id=la®ion=J Dan Soton

9:39am Tue 20 Nov 12

Linesman says...

Graeme Harrison wrote:
jwillie6 wrote:
Applied externally to teeth may work, but fluoride in drinking water is neither a nutrient nor essential for healthy teeth. No adult has ever walked out of their doctor's office with a prescription for the fluoride drug because it is deadly poison and the body has no known use for it. It is never included in any multi-vitamin formulation. Drinking it to prevent tooth decay is as foolish as drinking sunscreen to prevent sunburn. Every fluoride toothpaste tube carries the warning "if swallowed, call a poison control center." 50% of all fluoride you consume builds up in the body, in the bones, brains and other organs, so exactly why would adults want to take this poisonous drug in every glass of water every day for the rest of their lives.
'doctor's office'? Do we have those here. I thought they were surgeries.

'Every fluoride toothpaste tube carries the warning "if swallowed, call a poison control center."' I'm not sure what a 'center' is and my toothpaste doesn't carry any such warning.

Could it be that you're talking through your arse?
I have just checked Sensodyne and Advance White toothpastes, both of which contain fluoride but neither of which contain the warning that you claim that EVERY flouride toothpaste tube carrys.

Another example of anti-fluoridation scare mongering.
[quote][p][bold]Graeme Harrison[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jwillie6[/bold] wrote: Applied externally to teeth may work, but fluoride in drinking water is neither a nutrient nor essential for healthy teeth. No adult has ever walked out of their doctor's office with a prescription for the fluoride drug because it is deadly poison and the body has no known use for it. It is never included in any multi-vitamin formulation. Drinking it to prevent tooth decay is as foolish as drinking sunscreen to prevent sunburn. Every fluoride toothpaste tube carries the warning "if swallowed, call a poison control center." 50% of all fluoride you consume builds up in the body, in the bones, brains and other organs, so exactly why would adults want to take this poisonous drug in every glass of water every day for the rest of their lives.[/p][/quote]'doctor's office'? Do we have those here. I thought they were surgeries. 'Every fluoride toothpaste tube carries the warning "if swallowed, call a poison control center."' I'm not sure what a 'center' is and my toothpaste doesn't carry any such warning. Could it be that you're talking through your arse?[/p][/quote]I have just checked Sensodyne and Advance White toothpastes, both of which contain fluoride but neither of which contain the warning that you claim that EVERY flouride toothpaste tube carrys. Another example of anti-fluoridation scare mongering. Linesman

9:45am Tue 20 Nov 12

Linesman says...

VictorMeldrew wrote:
Linesman wrote:
VictorMeldrew wrote:
Dr Mortimer says a local fluoridation scheme will benefit everyone who has access to it.
Please tell me exactly how it will benefit me, a 60 year old man who brushes his teeth every day and has not had a filling for years.
That is probably because the teeth that were filled years ago, have long since been pulled out, and his false teeth would be unaffected by fluoridation.

Next question?
Wrong Linesman. Teeth are all home grown. If they were dentures I'd still like to know what benefits I'd get from drinking fluoridated water.
In fact, even if it were accepted there are any benefits the vast majority's people drinking the water would get none. It was said in the consultation that fluoride would benefit people who drink fluoridated water for the whole of their lives. So most of the population will not benefit. Visitors to Southampton will not benefit. Most of the water will go down the drains without coming into contact with a human. Just more lies Dr. Mortimer. More incompetence. 
So the vast majority would get no benefit, but by being selfish basket, you wish to deprive the next generation of receiving the benefits.

I would not gain any benefit, but I would like kids to have the benefit that I, and others of my generation, did not have.
[quote][p][bold]VictorMeldrew[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VictorMeldrew[/bold] wrote: Dr Mortimer says a local fluoridation scheme will benefit everyone who has access to it. Please tell me exactly how it will benefit me, a 60 year old man who brushes his teeth every day and has not had a filling for years.[/p][/quote]That is probably because the teeth that were filled years ago, have long since been pulled out, and his false teeth would be unaffected by fluoridation. Next question?[/p][/quote]Wrong Linesman. Teeth are all home grown. If they were dentures I'd still like to know what benefits I'd get from drinking fluoridated water. In fact, even if it were accepted there are any benefits the vast majority's people drinking the water would get none. It was said in the consultation that fluoride would benefit people who drink fluoridated water for the whole of their lives. So most of the population will not benefit. Visitors to Southampton will not benefit. Most of the water will go down the drains without coming into contact with a human. Just more lies Dr. Mortimer. More incompetence. [/p][/quote]So the vast majority would get no benefit, but by being selfish basket, you wish to deprive the next generation of receiving the benefits. I would not gain any benefit, but I would like kids to have the benefit that I, and others of my generation, did not have. Linesman

10:04am Tue 20 Nov 12

one in a million says...

What is the world coming to? Will parents be excused any responsiblity for their children?
What is the world coming to? Will parents be excused any responsiblity for their children? one in a million

1:51pm Tue 20 Nov 12

Dan Soton says...

one in a million wrote:
What is the world coming to? Will parents be excused any responsiblity for their children?
one in a million says... What is the world coming to?


Re: teachers in Rochdale have been overseeing five- to seven- year-olds brushing their teeth as part of the morning routine in schools.


I'd go further.. 5/7 year olds should brush their teeth with a fluoride free toothpaste after dinner/snack time.
[quote][p][bold]one in a million[/bold] wrote: What is the world coming to? Will parents be excused any responsiblity for their children?[/p][/quote]one in a million says... What is the world coming to? Re: teachers in Rochdale have been overseeing five- to seven- year-olds brushing their teeth as part of the morning routine in schools. I'd go further.. 5/7 year olds should brush their teeth with a fluoride free toothpaste after dinner/snack time. Dan Soton

3:28pm Tue 20 Nov 12

Dan Soton says...

Dan Soton wrote:
Dan Soton wrote:
Dan Soton wrote:
What's the argument.. Supervised toothbrushing is more costeffective than fluoridation.

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Dr Andrew Mortimore is supposedly obsessed with saving money yet he will not contact Teachers in Manchester or Glasgow?


Google... Dr Andrew Mortimore cost effective.

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http://tinyurl.com/c



wv6q9p
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I can only conclude Dr Andrew Mortimore is a two faced fool
Dr Andrew Mortimore says... the West Midlands, have achieved some of the best dental health in the country



please correct me if I'm wrong...

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West Midlands, Birmingham, Solihull first fluoridation scheme started in 1964.

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http://tinyurl.com/c


5wll2g


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5-year-old Survey 2007/08 - Primary Care Trust Data

Percentage of children with the presence of one or more dental abscess or sinuses

WEST MIDLANDS , BIRMINGHAM, SOLIHULL 2.5%



5-year-old Survey 2007/08 - Primary Care Trust Data

Percentage of children with the presence of one or more dental abscess or sinuses

SOUTHAMPTON CITY 1.3%

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http://www.nwph.net/


dentalhealth/reports


/NHS_DEP_for_England


_OH_Survey_5yr_2007-


08_PCT_Results_Table


.pdf


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I can only conclude Dr Andrew Mortimore is a two faced fool
Time to go Dr Andrew Mortimore.. what difference have you made?

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Dr Andrew Mortimore has worked locally for the last twenty years, Yet Portsmouth and Southampton have near identical dental health statistics.

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http://www.southampt

onhealth.nhs.uk/abou

tus/whoweare/tb/exec

/

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South East.. 5-year-old survey results, 2007/08.

Portsmouth and Southampton have near identical dental health statistics.

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http://www.nwph.net/

dentalhealth/profile

.aspx?id=la®ion=J
Epigenetics: Fluoridation.. What you Eat/Drink can turn your genes on or off

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BBC HORIZON - EPIGENETICS - THE GHOST IN YOUR GENES.

published on 29 Aug 2012.

Biology stands on the brink of a shift in the understanding of inheritance. The discovery of epigenetics -- hidden influences upon the genes -- could affect every aspect of our lives.

EPIGENETICS ADDS A WHOLE NEW LAYER TO GENES BEYOND THE DNA. IT PROPOSES A CONTROL SYSTEM OF 'SWITCHES' THAT TURN GENES ON OR OFF -- AND SUGGESTS THAT THINGS PEOPLE EXPERIENCE, LIKE NUTRITION AND STRESS, CAN CONTROL THESE SWITCHES AND CAUSE HERITABLE EFFECTS IN HUMANS.

research has demonstrated that genes and the environment are not mutually exclusive but are inextricably intertwined, one affecting the other.

The idea that inheritance is not just about which genes you inherit but whether these are switched on or off is a whole new frontier in biology. It raises questions with huge implications, and means the search will be on to find what sort of environmental effects can affect these switches.

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YOUTUBE VIDEO BBC HORIZON - EPIGENETICS.

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http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=FvDgcdxPA
2U

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I can only conclude Dr Andrew Mortimore has a hidden agenda
[quote][p][bold]Dan Soton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dan Soton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dan Soton[/bold] wrote: What's the argument.. Supervised toothbrushing is more costeffective than fluoridation. - Dr Andrew Mortimore is supposedly obsessed with saving money yet he will not contact Teachers in Manchester or Glasgow? Google... Dr Andrew Mortimore cost effective. - http://tinyurl.com/c wv6q9p - I can only conclude Dr Andrew Mortimore is a two faced fool[/p][/quote]Dr Andrew Mortimore says... the West Midlands, have achieved some of the best dental health in the country please correct me if I'm wrong... - West Midlands, Birmingham, Solihull first fluoridation scheme started in 1964. - http://tinyurl.com/c 5wll2g - 5-year-old Survey 2007/08 - Primary Care Trust Data Percentage of children with the presence of one or more dental abscess or sinuses WEST MIDLANDS , BIRMINGHAM, SOLIHULL 2.5% 5-year-old Survey 2007/08 - Primary Care Trust Data Percentage of children with the presence of one or more dental abscess or sinuses SOUTHAMPTON CITY 1.3% - http://www.nwph.net/ dentalhealth/reports /NHS_DEP_for_England _OH_Survey_5yr_2007- 08_PCT_Results_Table .pdf - I can only conclude Dr Andrew Mortimore is a two faced fool[/p][/quote]Time to go Dr Andrew Mortimore.. what difference have you made? - Dr Andrew Mortimore has worked locally for the last twenty years, Yet Portsmouth and Southampton have near identical dental health statistics. - http://www.southampt onhealth.nhs.uk/abou tus/whoweare/tb/exec / - South East.. 5-year-old survey results, 2007/08. Portsmouth and Southampton have near identical dental health statistics. - http://www.nwph.net/ dentalhealth/profile .aspx?id=la®ion=J[/p][/quote]Epigenetics: Fluoridation.. What you Eat/Drink can turn your genes on or off - BBC HORIZON - EPIGENETICS - THE GHOST IN YOUR GENES. published on 29 Aug 2012. Biology stands on the brink of a shift in the understanding of inheritance. The discovery of epigenetics -- hidden influences upon the genes -- could affect every aspect of our lives. EPIGENETICS ADDS A WHOLE NEW LAYER TO GENES BEYOND THE DNA. IT PROPOSES A CONTROL SYSTEM OF 'SWITCHES' THAT TURN GENES ON OR OFF -- AND SUGGESTS THAT THINGS PEOPLE EXPERIENCE, LIKE NUTRITION AND STRESS, CAN CONTROL THESE SWITCHES AND CAUSE HERITABLE EFFECTS IN HUMANS. research has demonstrated that genes and the environment are not mutually exclusive but are inextricably intertwined, one affecting the other. The idea that inheritance is not just about which genes you inherit but whether these are switched on or off is a whole new frontier in biology. It raises questions with huge implications, and means the search will be on to find what sort of environmental effects can affect these switches. - YOUTUBE VIDEO BBC HORIZON - EPIGENETICS. - http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=FvDgcdxPA 2U - I can only conclude Dr Andrew Mortimore has a hidden agenda Dan Soton

6:23pm Tue 20 Nov 12

Niel says...

My son recently came home having spent several lessons going over the fluoridation debate, one chemistry, one biology, the teachers are probably not biased, simply put it's the cheapest way to dispose of toxic waste!
My son recently came home having spent several lessons going over the fluoridation debate, one chemistry, one biology, the teachers are probably not biased, simply put it's the cheapest way to dispose of toxic waste! Niel

11:04am Wed 21 Nov 12

VictorMeldrew says...

Linesman wrote:
VictorMeldrew wrote:
Linesman wrote:
VictorMeldrew wrote:
Dr Mortimer says a local fluoridation scheme will benefit everyone who has access to it.
Please tell me exactly how it will benefit me, a 60 year old man who brushes his teeth every day and has not had a filling for years.
That is probably because the teeth that were filled years ago, have long since been pulled out, and his false teeth would be unaffected by fluoridation.

Next question?
Wrong Linesman. Teeth are all home grown. If they were dentures I'd still like to know what benefits I'd get from drinking fluoridated water.
In fact, even if it were accepted there are any benefits the vast majority's people drinking the water would get none. It was said in the consultation that fluoride would benefit people who drink fluoridated water for the whole of their lives. So most of the population will not benefit. Visitors to Southampton will not benefit. Most of the water will go down the drains without coming into contact with a human. Just more lies Dr. Mortimer. More incompetence. 
So the vast majority would get no benefit, but by being selfish basket, you wish to deprive the next generation of receiving the benefits.

I would not gain any benefit, but I would like kids to have the benefit that I, and others of my generation, did not have.
Not selfish at all. Your kids can have all the fluoride they want without poisoning the whole population.
If fluoride in the water supply is effective as Dr Mortimer and the SHA claim they would not have to persistently misrepresent the facts about fluoride.
Even our MP's who supported fluoride say it should not go ahead because of the way the SHA have behaved.
The onus of proof of the effectiveness and safety of adding fluoride rests with those who support it. The SHA have not even attempted to prove the case relying instead on flawed legislation to impose their will despite 72% of respondents saying NO.
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VictorMeldrew[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VictorMeldrew[/bold] wrote: Dr Mortimer says a local fluoridation scheme will benefit everyone who has access to it. Please tell me exactly how it will benefit me, a 60 year old man who brushes his teeth every day and has not had a filling for years.[/p][/quote]That is probably because the teeth that were filled years ago, have long since been pulled out, and his false teeth would be unaffected by fluoridation. Next question?[/p][/quote]Wrong Linesman. Teeth are all home grown. If they were dentures I'd still like to know what benefits I'd get from drinking fluoridated water. In fact, even if it were accepted there are any benefits the vast majority's people drinking the water would get none. It was said in the consultation that fluoride would benefit people who drink fluoridated water for the whole of their lives. So most of the population will not benefit. Visitors to Southampton will not benefit. Most of the water will go down the drains without coming into contact with a human. Just more lies Dr. Mortimer. More incompetence. [/p][/quote]So the vast majority would get no benefit, but by being selfish basket, you wish to deprive the next generation of receiving the benefits. I would not gain any benefit, but I would like kids to have the benefit that I, and others of my generation, did not have.[/p][/quote]Not selfish at all. Your kids can have all the fluoride they want without poisoning the whole population. If fluoride in the water supply is effective as Dr Mortimer and the SHA claim they would not have to persistently misrepresent the facts about fluoride. Even our MP's who supported fluoride say it should not go ahead because of the way the SHA have behaved. The onus of proof of the effectiveness and safety of adding fluoride rests with those who support it. The SHA have not even attempted to prove the case relying instead on flawed legislation to impose their will despite 72% of respondents saying NO. VictorMeldrew

11:05am Wed 21 Nov 12

VictorMeldrew says...

Linesman wrote:
VictorMeldrew wrote:
Linesman wrote:
VictorMeldrew wrote:
Dr Mortimer says a local fluoridation scheme will benefit everyone who has access to it.
Please tell me exactly how it will benefit me, a 60 year old man who brushes his teeth every day and has not had a filling for years.
That is probably because the teeth that were filled years ago, have long since been pulled out, and his false teeth would be unaffected by fluoridation.

Next question?
Wrong Linesman. Teeth are all home grown. If they were dentures I'd still like to know what benefits I'd get from drinking fluoridated water.
In fact, even if it were accepted there are any benefits the vast majority's people drinking the water would get none. It was said in the consultation that fluoride would benefit people who drink fluoridated water for the whole of their lives. So most of the population will not benefit. Visitors to Southampton will not benefit. Most of the water will go down the drains without coming into contact with a human. Just more lies Dr. Mortimer. More incompetence. 
So the vast majority would get no benefit, but by being selfish basket, you wish to deprive the next generation of receiving the benefits.

I would not gain any benefit, but I would like kids to have the benefit that I, and others of my generation, did not have.
Not selfish at all. Your kids can have all the fluoride they want without poisoning the whole population.
If fluoride in the water supply is effective as Dr Mortimer and the SHA claim they would not have to persistently misrepresent the facts about fluoride.
Even our MP's who supported fluoride say it should not go ahead because of the way the SHA have behaved.
The onus of proof of the effectiveness and safety of adding fluoride rests with those who support it. The SHA have not even attempted to prove the case relying instead on flawed legislation to impose their will despite 72% of respondents saying NO.
[quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VictorMeldrew[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Linesman[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]VictorMeldrew[/bold] wrote: Dr Mortimer says a local fluoridation scheme will benefit everyone who has access to it. Please tell me exactly how it will benefit me, a 60 year old man who brushes his teeth every day and has not had a filling for years.[/p][/quote]That is probably because the teeth that were filled years ago, have long since been pulled out, and his false teeth would be unaffected by fluoridation. Next question?[/p][/quote]Wrong Linesman. Teeth are all home grown. If they were dentures I'd still like to know what benefits I'd get from drinking fluoridated water. In fact, even if it were accepted there are any benefits the vast majority's people drinking the water would get none. It was said in the consultation that fluoride would benefit people who drink fluoridated water for the whole of their lives. So most of the population will not benefit. Visitors to Southampton will not benefit. Most of the water will go down the drains without coming into contact with a human. Just more lies Dr. Mortimer. More incompetence. [/p][/quote]So the vast majority would get no benefit, but by being selfish basket, you wish to deprive the next generation of receiving the benefits. I would not gain any benefit, but I would like kids to have the benefit that I, and others of my generation, did not have.[/p][/quote]Not selfish at all. Your kids can have all the fluoride they want without poisoning the whole population. If fluoride in the water supply is effective as Dr Mortimer and the SHA claim they would not have to persistently misrepresent the facts about fluoride. Even our MP's who supported fluoride say it should not go ahead because of the way the SHA have behaved. The onus of proof of the effectiveness and safety of adding fluoride rests with those who support it. The SHA have not even attempted to prove the case relying instead on flawed legislation to impose their will despite 72% of respondents saying NO. VictorMeldrew

3:25am Fri 23 Nov 12

Dan Soton says...

Dan Soton wrote:
Dan Soton wrote:
Dan Soton wrote:
Dan Soton wrote:
What's the argument.. Supervised toothbrushing is more costeffective than fluoridation.

-

Dr Andrew Mortimore is supposedly obsessed with saving money yet he will not contact Teachers in Manchester or Glasgow?


Google... Dr Andrew Mortimore cost effective.

-

http://tinyurl.com/c




wv6q9p
-


I can only conclude Dr Andrew Mortimore is a two faced fool
Dr Andrew Mortimore says... the West Midlands, have achieved some of the best dental health in the country



please correct me if I'm wrong...

-


West Midlands, Birmingham, Solihull first fluoridation scheme started in 1964.

-

http://tinyurl.com/c



5wll2g


-


5-year-old Survey 2007/08 - Primary Care Trust Data

Percentage of children with the presence of one or more dental abscess or sinuses

WEST MIDLANDS , BIRMINGHAM, SOLIHULL 2.5%



5-year-old Survey 2007/08 - Primary Care Trust Data

Percentage of children with the presence of one or more dental abscess or sinuses

SOUTHAMPTON CITY 1.3%

-


http://www.nwph.net/



dentalhealth/reports



/NHS_DEP_for_England



_OH_Survey_5yr_2007-



08_PCT_Results_Table



.pdf


-


I can only conclude Dr Andrew Mortimore is a two faced fool
Time to go Dr Andrew Mortimore.. what difference have you made?

-


Dr Andrew Mortimore has worked locally for the last twenty years, Yet Portsmouth and Southampton have near identical dental health statistics.

-

http://www.southampt


onhealth.nhs.uk/abou


tus/whoweare/tb/exec


/

-


South East.. 5-year-old survey results, 2007/08.

Portsmouth and Southampton have near identical dental health statistics.

-


http://www.nwph.net/


dentalhealth/profile


.aspx?id=la®ion=J
Epigenetics: Fluoridation.. What you Eat/Drink can turn your genes on or off

-



BBC HORIZON - EPIGENETICS - THE GHOST IN YOUR GENES.

published on 29 Aug 2012.

Biology stands on the brink of a shift in the understanding of inheritance. The discovery of epigenetics -- hidden influences upon the genes -- could affect every aspect of our lives.

EPIGENETICS ADDS A WHOLE NEW LAYER TO GENES BEYOND THE DNA. IT PROPOSES A CONTROL SYSTEM OF 'SWITCHES' THAT TURN GENES ON OR OFF -- AND SUGGESTS THAT THINGS PEOPLE EXPERIENCE, LIKE NUTRITION AND STRESS, CAN CONTROL THESE SWITCHES AND CAUSE HERITABLE EFFECTS IN HUMANS.

research has demonstrated that genes and the environment are not mutually exclusive but are inextricably intertwined, one affecting the other.

The idea that inheritance is not just about which genes you inherit but whether these are switched on or off is a whole new frontier in biology. It raises questions with huge implications, and means the search will be on to find what sort of environmental effects can affect these switches.

-


YOUTUBE VIDEO BBC HORIZON - EPIGENETICS.

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http://www.youtube.c

om/watch?v=FvDgcdxPA

2U

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I can only conclude Dr Andrew Mortimore has a hidden agenda
Inform Al.. Here's an Aluminum/Fluoride double whammy.

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We learn today from Britain’s chief medical officer, PROFESSOR DAME SALLY DAVIES that deaths in the U.K from liver disease have increased by a fifth between 2000 and 2009, while they have dropped by around the same amount in most comparable European countries.


It's well known that the aluminium in beer kegs/cans is none too healthy for your kidney/liver.


Inform Al, If as you say some beers are brewed using fluoridated water.


I'd say aluminum and fluoride mixed in a can is a lethal combo.


I'd also say Britain’s chief medical officer, PROFESSOR DAME SALLY DAVIES has more than a few questions on the safety of water Fluoridation to answer.


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Re: Birmingham: under-fives treated for Rickets.. Blame Diet & lack of Sunlight or Fluoridation?

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VITAMIN SCHEME LAUNCHED AS RICKETS RETURNS TO BIRMINGHAM.

24 Feb 2011.

CHILDREN AND PREGNANT WOMEN across Birmingham are being targeted in a free vitamin drive after the re-emergence of a Victorian poverty disease.

Cases of rickets in the city have surged in the past year – caused by a severe lack of Vitamin D and not getting enough exposure to sunlight.

Modern day lifestyles of unhealthy food and also smothering children in sunscreen is being blamed for the disease, thought to have been eradicated 50 years ago, rearing its head.

BRITAIN'S CHIEF MEDICAL OFFICER, DAME SALLY DAVIES, WARNED PARENTS TO GIVE ALL UNDER-FIVES VITAMIN D SUPPLEMENTS FOR DISEASES SUCH AS RICKETS LAST MONTH.

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http://www.birmingha
mmail.co.uk/news/loc
al-news/vitamin-sche
me-launched-as-ricke
ts-returns-149080
[quote][p][bold]Dan Soton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dan Soton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dan Soton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dan Soton[/bold] wrote: What's the argument.. Supervised toothbrushing is more costeffective than fluoridation. - Dr Andrew Mortimore is supposedly obsessed with saving money yet he will not contact Teachers in Manchester or Glasgow? Google... Dr Andrew Mortimore cost effective. - http://tinyurl.com/c wv6q9p - I can only conclude Dr Andrew Mortimore is a two faced fool[/p][/quote]Dr Andrew Mortimore says... the West Midlands, have achieved some of the best dental health in the country please correct me if I'm wrong... - West Midlands, Birmingham, Solihull first fluoridation scheme started in 1964. - http://tinyurl.com/c 5wll2g - 5-year-old Survey 2007/08 - Primary Care Trust Data Percentage of children with the presence of one or more dental abscess or sinuses WEST MIDLANDS , BIRMINGHAM, SOLIHULL 2.5% 5-year-old Survey 2007/08 - Primary Care Trust Data Percentage of children with the presence of one or more dental abscess or sinuses SOUTHAMPTON CITY 1.3% - http://www.nwph.net/ dentalhealth/reports /NHS_DEP_for_England _OH_Survey_5yr_2007- 08_PCT_Results_Table .pdf - I can only conclude Dr Andrew Mortimore is a two faced fool[/p][/quote]Time to go Dr Andrew Mortimore.. what difference have you made? - Dr Andrew Mortimore has worked locally for the last twenty years, Yet Portsmouth and Southampton have near identical dental health statistics. - http://www.southampt onhealth.nhs.uk/abou tus/whoweare/tb/exec / - South East.. 5-year-old survey results, 2007/08. Portsmouth and Southampton have near identical dental health statistics. - http://www.nwph.net/ dentalhealth/profile .aspx?id=la®ion=J[/p][/quote]Epigenetics: Fluoridation.. What you Eat/Drink can turn your genes on or off - BBC HORIZON - EPIGENETICS - THE GHOST IN YOUR GENES. published on 29 Aug 2012. Biology stands on the brink of a shift in the understanding of inheritance. The discovery of epigenetics -- hidden influences upon the genes -- could affect every aspect of our lives. EPIGENETICS ADDS A WHOLE NEW LAYER TO GENES BEYOND THE DNA. IT PROPOSES A CONTROL SYSTEM OF 'SWITCHES' THAT TURN GENES ON OR OFF -- AND SUGGESTS THAT THINGS PEOPLE EXPERIENCE, LIKE NUTRITION AND STRESS, CAN CONTROL THESE SWITCHES AND CAUSE HERITABLE EFFECTS IN HUMANS. research has demonstrated that genes and the environment are not mutually exclusive but are inextricably intertwined, one affecting the other. The idea that inheritance is not just about which genes you inherit but whether these are switched on or off is a whole new frontier in biology. It raises questions with huge implications, and means the search will be on to find what sort of environmental effects can affect these switches. - YOUTUBE VIDEO BBC HORIZON - EPIGENETICS. - http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=FvDgcdxPA 2U - I can only conclude Dr Andrew Mortimore has a hidden agenda[/p][/quote]Inform Al.. Here's an Aluminum/Fluoride double whammy. - We learn today from Britain’s chief medical officer, PROFESSOR DAME SALLY DAVIES that deaths in the U.K from liver disease have increased by a fifth between 2000 and 2009, while they have dropped by around the same amount in most comparable European countries. It's well known that the aluminium in beer kegs/cans is none too healthy for your kidney/liver. Inform Al, If as you say some beers are brewed using fluoridated water. I'd say aluminum and fluoride mixed in a can is a lethal combo. I'd also say Britain’s chief medical officer, PROFESSOR DAME SALLY DAVIES has more than a few questions on the safety of water Fluoridation to answer. - Re: Birmingham: under-fives treated for Rickets.. Blame Diet & lack of Sunlight or Fluoridation? - VITAMIN SCHEME LAUNCHED AS RICKETS RETURNS TO BIRMINGHAM. 24 Feb 2011. CHILDREN AND PREGNANT WOMEN across Birmingham are being targeted in a free vitamin drive after the re-emergence of a Victorian poverty disease. Cases of rickets in the city have surged in the past year – caused by a severe lack of Vitamin D and not getting enough exposure to sunlight. Modern day lifestyles of unhealthy food and also smothering children in sunscreen is being blamed for the disease, thought to have been eradicated 50 years ago, rearing its head. BRITAIN'S CHIEF MEDICAL OFFICER, DAME SALLY DAVIES, WARNED PARENTS TO GIVE ALL UNDER-FIVES VITAMIN D SUPPLEMENTS FOR DISEASES SUCH AS RICKETS LAST MONTH. - http://www.birmingha mmail.co.uk/news/loc al-news/vitamin-sche me-launched-as-ricke ts-returns-149080 Dan Soton

5:15pm Sat 24 Nov 12

Dan Soton says...

Dan Soton wrote:
Dan Soton wrote:
Dan Soton wrote:
Dan Soton wrote:
Dan Soton wrote:
What's the argument.. Supervised toothbrushing is more costeffective than fluoridation.

-

Dr Andrew Mortimore is supposedly obsessed with saving money yet he will not contact Teachers in Manchester or Glasgow?


Google... Dr Andrew Mortimore cost effective.

-

http://tinyurl.com/c





wv6q9p
-


I can only conclude Dr Andrew Mortimore is a two faced fool
Dr Andrew Mortimore says... the West Midlands, have achieved some of the best dental health in the country



please correct me if I'm wrong...

-


West Midlands, Birmingham, Solihull first fluoridation scheme started in 1964.

-

http://tinyurl.com/c




5wll2g


-


5-year-old Survey 2007/08 - Primary Care Trust Data

Percentage of children with the presence of one or more dental abscess or sinuses

WEST MIDLANDS , BIRMINGHAM, SOLIHULL 2.5%



5-year-old Survey 2007/08 - Primary Care Trust Data

Percentage of children with the presence of one or more dental abscess or sinuses

SOUTHAMPTON CITY 1.3%

-


http://www.nwph.net/




dentalhealth/reports




/NHS_DEP_for_England




_OH_Survey_5yr_2007-




08_PCT_Results_Table




.pdf


-


I can only conclude Dr Andrew Mortimore is a two faced fool
Time to go Dr Andrew Mortimore.. what difference have you made?

-


Dr Andrew Mortimore has worked locally for the last twenty years, Yet Portsmouth and Southampton have near identical dental health statistics.

-

http://www.southampt



onhealth.nhs.uk/abou



tus/whoweare/tb/exec



/

-


South East.. 5-year-old survey results, 2007/08.

Portsmouth and Southampton have near identical dental health statistics.

-


http://www.nwph.net/



dentalhealth/profile



.aspx?id=la®ion=J
Epigenetics: Fluoridation.. What you Eat/Drink can turn your genes on or off

-



BBC HORIZON - EPIGENETICS - THE GHOST IN YOUR GENES.

published on 29 Aug 2012.

Biology stands on the brink of a shift in the understanding of inheritance. The discovery of epigenetics -- hidden influences upon the genes -- could affect every aspect of our lives.

EPIGENETICS ADDS A WHOLE NEW LAYER TO GENES BEYOND THE DNA. IT PROPOSES A CONTROL SYSTEM OF 'SWITCHES' THAT TURN GENES ON OR OFF -- AND SUGGESTS THAT THINGS PEOPLE EXPERIENCE, LIKE NUTRITION AND STRESS, CAN CONTROL THESE SWITCHES AND CAUSE HERITABLE EFFECTS IN HUMANS.

research has demonstrated that genes and the environment are not mutually exclusive but are inextricably intertwined, one affecting the other.

The idea that inheritance is not just about which genes you inherit but whether these are switched on or off is a whole new frontier in biology. It raises questions with huge implications, and means the search will be on to find what sort of environmental effects can affect these switches.

-


YOUTUBE VIDEO BBC HORIZON - EPIGENETICS.

-

http://www.youtube.c


om/watch?v=FvDgcdxPA


2U

-



I can only conclude Dr Andrew Mortimore has a hidden agenda
Inform Al.. Here's an Aluminum/Fluoride double whammy.

-


We learn today from Britain’s chief medical officer, PROFESSOR DAME SALLY DAVIES that deaths in the U.K from liver disease have increased by a fifth between 2000 and 2009, while they have dropped by around the same amount in most comparable European countries.


It's well known that the aluminium in beer kegs/cans is none too healthy for your kidney/liver.


Inform Al, If as you say some beers are brewed using fluoridated water.


I'd say aluminum and fluoride mixed in a can is a lethal combo.


I'd also say Britain’s chief medical officer, PROFESSOR DAME SALLY DAVIES has more than a few questions on the safety of water Fluoridation to answer.


-


Re: Birmingham: under-fives treated for Rickets.. Blame Diet & lack of Sunlight or Fluoridation?

-


VITAMIN SCHEME LAUNCHED AS RICKETS RETURNS TO BIRMINGHAM.

24 Feb 2011.

CHILDREN AND PREGNANT WOMEN across Birmingham are being targeted in a free vitamin drive after the re-emergence of a Victorian poverty disease.

Cases of rickets in the city have surged in the past year – caused by a severe lack of Vitamin D and not getting enough exposure to sunlight.

Modern day lifestyles of unhealthy food and also smothering children in sunscreen is being blamed for the disease, thought to have been eradicated 50 years ago, rearing its head.

BRITAIN'S CHIEF MEDICAL OFFICER, DAME SALLY DAVIES, WARNED PARENTS TO GIVE ALL UNDER-FIVES VITAMIN D SUPPLEMENTS FOR DISEASES SUCH AS RICKETS LAST MONTH.

-


http://www.birmingha

mmail.co.uk/news/loc

al-news/vitamin-sche

me-launched-as-ricke

ts-returns-149080
1990–2006 UK Thyroid Cancer doubles.. Fluoridated Birmingham Solihull/Arden No 1 hot spot

-


We are told by Fluoridation advocates that Fluoride does not raise the risk of Cancer.

West Midlands, Birmingham, Solihull/Arden fluoridation scheme started in 1964.




PROFILE OF HEAD AND NECK CANCERS IN ENGLAND: INCIDENCE, MORTALITY AND SURVIVAL.


Trends in the incidence of thyroid gland cancer in England, 1990–2006.

The incidence of thyroid cancer has nearly doubled • in the study period.

East Midland and North of England, the largest Cancer Networks, have as expected the greatest total number of cases.

AGE STANDARDISED RATES (PER 100,000 POPULATION) VARY FROM 3.39 IN ARDEN, TO 1.97 IN SUSSEX.

-


http://www.sph.nhs.u
k/sph-documents/Fina
l_Head_-_Neck_Profil
es_04May2010.pdf
[quote][p][bold]Dan Soton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dan Soton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dan Soton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dan Soton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dan Soton[/bold] wrote: What's the argument.. Supervised toothbrushing is more costeffective than fluoridation. - Dr Andrew Mortimore is supposedly obsessed with saving money yet he will not contact Teachers in Manchester or Glasgow? Google... Dr Andrew Mortimore cost effective. - http://tinyurl.com/c wv6q9p - I can only conclude Dr Andrew Mortimore is a two faced fool[/p][/quote]Dr Andrew Mortimore says... the West Midlands, have achieved some of the best dental health in the country please correct me if I'm wrong... - West Midlands, Birmingham, Solihull first fluoridation scheme started in 1964. - http://tinyurl.com/c 5wll2g - 5-year-old Survey 2007/08 - Primary Care Trust Data Percentage of children with the presence of one or more dental abscess or sinuses WEST MIDLANDS , BIRMINGHAM, SOLIHULL 2.5% 5-year-old Survey 2007/08 - Primary Care Trust Data Percentage of children with the presence of one or more dental abscess or sinuses SOUTHAMPTON CITY 1.3% - http://www.nwph.net/ dentalhealth/reports /NHS_DEP_for_England _OH_Survey_5yr_2007- 08_PCT_Results_Table .pdf - I can only conclude Dr Andrew Mortimore is a two faced fool[/p][/quote]Time to go Dr Andrew Mortimore.. what difference have you made? - Dr Andrew Mortimore has worked locally for the last twenty years, Yet Portsmouth and Southampton have near identical dental health statistics. - http://www.southampt onhealth.nhs.uk/abou tus/whoweare/tb/exec / - South East.. 5-year-old survey results, 2007/08. Portsmouth and Southampton have near identical dental health statistics. - http://www.nwph.net/ dentalhealth/profile .aspx?id=la®ion=J[/p][/quote]Epigenetics: Fluoridation.. What you Eat/Drink can turn your genes on or off - BBC HORIZON - EPIGENETICS - THE GHOST IN YOUR GENES. published on 29 Aug 2012. Biology stands on the brink of a shift in the understanding of inheritance. The discovery of epigenetics -- hidden influences upon the genes -- could affect every aspect of our lives. EPIGENETICS ADDS A WHOLE NEW LAYER TO GENES BEYOND THE DNA. IT PROPOSES A CONTROL SYSTEM OF 'SWITCHES' THAT TURN GENES ON OR OFF -- AND SUGGESTS THAT THINGS PEOPLE EXPERIENCE, LIKE NUTRITION AND STRESS, CAN CONTROL THESE SWITCHES AND CAUSE HERITABLE EFFECTS IN HUMANS. research has demonstrated that genes and the environment are not mutually exclusive but are inextricably intertwined, one affecting the other. The idea that inheritance is not just about which genes you inherit but whether these are switched on or off is a whole new frontier in biology. It raises questions with huge implications, and means the search will be on to find what sort of environmental effects can affect these switches. - YOUTUBE VIDEO BBC HORIZON - EPIGENETICS. - http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=FvDgcdxPA 2U - I can only conclude Dr Andrew Mortimore has a hidden agenda[/p][/quote]Inform Al.. Here's an Aluminum/Fluoride double whammy. - We learn today from Britain’s chief medical officer, PROFESSOR DAME SALLY DAVIES that deaths in the U.K from liver disease have increased by a fifth between 2000 and 2009, while they have dropped by around the same amount in most comparable European countries. It's well known that the aluminium in beer kegs/cans is none too healthy for your kidney/liver. Inform Al, If as you say some beers are brewed using fluoridated water. I'd say aluminum and fluoride mixed in a can is a lethal combo. I'd also say Britain’s chief medical officer, PROFESSOR DAME SALLY DAVIES has more than a few questions on the safety of water Fluoridation to answer. - Re: Birmingham: under-fives treated for Rickets.. Blame Diet & lack of Sunlight or Fluoridation? - VITAMIN SCHEME LAUNCHED AS RICKETS RETURNS TO BIRMINGHAM. 24 Feb 2011. CHILDREN AND PREGNANT WOMEN across Birmingham are being targeted in a free vitamin drive after the re-emergence of a Victorian poverty disease. Cases of rickets in the city have surged in the past year – caused by a severe lack of Vitamin D and not getting enough exposure to sunlight. Modern day lifestyles of unhealthy food and also smothering children in sunscreen is being blamed for the disease, thought to have been eradicated 50 years ago, rearing its head. BRITAIN'S CHIEF MEDICAL OFFICER, DAME SALLY DAVIES, WARNED PARENTS TO GIVE ALL UNDER-FIVES VITAMIN D SUPPLEMENTS FOR DISEASES SUCH AS RICKETS LAST MONTH. - http://www.birmingha mmail.co.uk/news/loc al-news/vitamin-sche me-launched-as-ricke ts-returns-149080[/p][/quote]1990–2006 UK Thyroid Cancer doubles.. Fluoridated Birmingham Solihull/Arden No 1 hot spot - We are told by Fluoridation advocates that Fluoride does not raise the risk of Cancer. West Midlands, Birmingham, Solihull/Arden fluoridation scheme started in 1964. PROFILE OF HEAD AND NECK CANCERS IN ENGLAND: INCIDENCE, MORTALITY AND SURVIVAL. Trends in the incidence of thyroid gland cancer in England, 1990–2006. The incidence of thyroid cancer has nearly doubled • in the study period. East Midland and North of England, the largest Cancer Networks, have as expected the greatest total number of cases. AGE STANDARDISED RATES (PER 100,000 POPULATION) VARY FROM 3.39 IN ARDEN, TO 1.97 IN SUSSEX. - http://www.sph.nhs.u k/sph-documents/Fina l_Head_-_Neck_Profil es_04May2010.pdf Dan Soton

5:55pm Sat 24 Nov 12

Dan Soton says...

Dan Soton wrote:
Dan Soton wrote:
Dan Soton wrote:
Dan Soton wrote:
Dan Soton wrote:
Dan Soton wrote:
What's the argument.. Supervised toothbrushing is more costeffective than fluoridation.

-

Dr Andrew Mortimore is supposedly obsessed with saving money yet he will not contact Teachers in Manchester or Glasgow?


Google... Dr Andrew Mortimore cost effective.

-

http://tinyurl.com/c






wv6q9p
-


I can only conclude Dr Andrew Mortimore is a two faced fool
Dr Andrew Mortimore says... the West Midlands, have achieved some of the best dental health in the country



please correct me if I'm wrong...

-


West Midlands, Birmingham, Solihull first fluoridation scheme started in 1964.

-

http://tinyurl.com/c





5wll2g


-


5-year-old Survey 2007/08 - Primary Care Trust Data

Percentage of children with the presence of one or more dental abscess or sinuses

WEST MIDLANDS , BIRMINGHAM, SOLIHULL 2.5%



5-year-old Survey 2007/08 - Primary Care Trust Data

Percentage of children with the presence of one or more dental abscess or sinuses

SOUTHAMPTON CITY 1.3%

-


http://www.nwph.net/





dentalhealth/reports





/NHS_DEP_for_England





_OH_Survey_5yr_2007-





08_PCT_Results_Table





.pdf


-


I can only conclude Dr Andrew Mortimore is a two faced fool
Time to go Dr Andrew Mortimore.. what difference have you made?

-


Dr Andrew Mortimore has worked locally for the last twenty years, Yet Portsmouth and Southampton have near identical dental health statistics.

-

http://www.southampt




onhealth.nhs.uk/abou




tus/whoweare/tb/exec




/

-


South East.. 5-year-old survey results, 2007/08.

Portsmouth and Southampton have near identical dental health statistics.

-


http://www.nwph.net/




dentalhealth/profile




.aspx?id=la®ion=J
Epigenetics: Fluoridation.. What you Eat/Drink can turn your genes on or off

-



BBC HORIZON - EPIGENETICS - THE GHOST IN YOUR GENES.

published on 29 Aug 2012.

Biology stands on the brink of a shift in the understanding of inheritance. The discovery of epigenetics -- hidden influences upon the genes -- could affect every aspect of our lives.

EPIGENETICS ADDS A WHOLE NEW LAYER TO GENES BEYOND THE DNA. IT PROPOSES A CONTROL SYSTEM OF 'SWITCHES' THAT TURN GENES ON OR OFF -- AND SUGGESTS THAT THINGS PEOPLE EXPERIENCE, LIKE NUTRITION AND STRESS, CAN CONTROL THESE SWITCHES AND CAUSE HERITABLE EFFECTS IN HUMANS.

research has demonstrated that genes and the environment are not mutually exclusive but are inextricably intertwined, one affecting the other.

The idea that inheritance is not just about which genes you inherit but whether these are switched on or off is a whole new frontier in biology. It raises questions with huge implications, and means the search will be on to find what sort of environmental effects can affect these switches.

-


YOUTUBE VIDEO BBC HORIZON - EPIGENETICS.

-

http://www.youtube.c



om/watch?v=FvDgcdxPA



2U

-



I can only conclude Dr Andrew Mortimore has a hidden agenda
Inform Al.. Here's an Aluminum/Fluoride double whammy.

-


We learn today from Britain’s chief medical officer, PROFESSOR DAME SALLY DAVIES that deaths in the U.K from liver disease have increased by a fifth between 2000 and 2009, while they have dropped by around the same amount in most comparable European countries.


It's well known that the aluminium in beer kegs/cans is none too healthy for your kidney/liver.


Inform Al, If as you say some beers are brewed using fluoridated water.


I'd say aluminum and fluoride mixed in a can is a lethal combo.


I'd also say Britain’s chief medical officer, PROFESSOR DAME SALLY DAVIES has more than a few questions on the safety of water Fluoridation to answer.


-


Re: Birmingham: under-fives treated for Rickets.. Blame Diet & lack of Sunlight or Fluoridation?

-


VITAMIN SCHEME LAUNCHED AS RICKETS RETURNS TO BIRMINGHAM.

24 Feb 2011.

CHILDREN AND PREGNANT WOMEN across Birmingham are being targeted in a free vitamin drive after the re-emergence of a Victorian poverty disease.

Cases of rickets in the city have surged in the past year – caused by a severe lack of Vitamin D and not getting enough exposure to sunlight.

Modern day lifestyles of unhealthy food and also smothering children in sunscreen is being blamed for the disease, thought to have been eradicated 50 years ago, rearing its head.

BRITAIN'S CHIEF MEDICAL OFFICER, DAME SALLY DAVIES, WARNED PARENTS TO GIVE ALL UNDER-FIVES VITAMIN D SUPPLEMENTS FOR DISEASES SUCH AS RICKETS LAST MONTH.

-


http://www.birmingha


mmail.co.uk/news/loc


al-news/vitamin-sche


me-launched-as-ricke


ts-returns-149080
1990–2006 UK Thyroid Cancer doubles.. Fluoridated Birmingham Solihull/Arden No 1 hot spot

-


We are told by Fluoridation advocates that Fluoride does not raise the risk of Cancer.

West Midlands, Birmingham, Solihull/Arden fluoridation scheme started in 1964.




PROFILE OF HEAD AND NECK CANCERS IN ENGLAND: INCIDENCE, MORTALITY AND SURVIVAL.


Trends in the incidence of thyroid gland cancer in England, 1990–2006.

The incidence of thyroid cancer has nearly doubled • in the study period.

East Midland and North of England, the largest Cancer Networks, have as expected the greatest total number of cases.

AGE STANDARDISED RATES (PER 100,000 POPULATION) VARY FROM 3.39 IN ARDEN, TO 1.97 IN SUSSEX.

-


http://www.sph.nhs.u

k/sph-documents/Fina

l_Head_-_Neck_Profil

es_04May2010.pdf
Iceland: Fluoridated Birmingham Solihull/Arden UKs No 1 hot spot for Thyroid Cancer



We are told by Fluoridation advocates that Fluoride does not raise the risk of Cancer yet Fluoridated Arden is the UKs No 1 Thyroid Cancer hot spot and Iceland has worlds highest Incidence of Thyroid Cancer,

The only difference.. the Brumbies of Arden are force fed Fluoride in their water supply, the Icelanders have no choice in the matter, Toxic (Fluoride) Ash rains down on them.

-



TOXIC (FLUORIDE) ASH THREATENS ICELAND ANIMALS.

11:33 GMT, Monday, 19 April 2010.

Farmers in southern Iceland have been racing to protect their animals from being poisoned by volcanic dust.

"The risk is of fluoride poisoning if they breathe or eat too much," Berglind Hilmarsdottir, a dairy farmer from Nupur, told the AP news agency through a protective white dust mask.

The animals are at risk of fluoride poisoning if they inhale or ingest the ash, leading to internal bleeding, long-term bone damage and teeth loss.

-

http://news.bbc.co.u
k/1/hi/world/europe/
8629241.stm

-



COUNTRIES WITH THE HIGHEST INCIDENCE OF THYROID CANCER.

Countries With the Highest Incidence of thyroid Cancer.

1) ICELAND .


-

http://www.aneki.com
/thyroid_cancer_coun
tries.html

-



PROFILE OF HEAD AND NECK CANCERS IN ENGLAND: INCIDENCE, MORTALITY AND SURVIVAL.

Trends in the incidence of thyroid gland cancer in England, 1990–2006.

The incidence of thyroid cancer has nearly doubled • in the study period.

East Midland and North of England, the largest Cancer Networks, have as expected the greatest total number of cases.

AGE STANDARDISED RATES (PER 100,000 POPULATION) VARY FROM 3.39 IN ARDEN, TO 1.97 IN SUSSEX.

-


http://www.sph.nhs.u
k/sph-documents/Fina
l_Head_-_Neck_Profil
es_04May2010.pdf
[quote][p][bold]Dan Soton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dan Soton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dan Soton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dan Soton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dan Soton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dan Soton[/bold] wrote: What's the argument.. Supervised toothbrushing is more costeffective than fluoridation. - Dr Andrew Mortimore is supposedly obsessed with saving money yet he will not contact Teachers in Manchester or Glasgow? Google... Dr Andrew Mortimore cost effective. - http://tinyurl.com/c wv6q9p - I can only conclude Dr Andrew Mortimore is a two faced fool[/p][/quote]Dr Andrew Mortimore says... the West Midlands, have achieved some of the best dental health in the country please correct me if I'm wrong... - West Midlands, Birmingham, Solihull first fluoridation scheme started in 1964. - http://tinyurl.com/c 5wll2g - 5-year-old Survey 2007/08 - Primary Care Trust Data Percentage of children with the presence of one or more dental abscess or sinuses WEST MIDLANDS , BIRMINGHAM, SOLIHULL 2.5% 5-year-old Survey 2007/08 - Primary Care Trust Data Percentage of children with the presence of one or more dental abscess or sinuses SOUTHAMPTON CITY 1.3% - http://www.nwph.net/ dentalhealth/reports /NHS_DEP_for_England _OH_Survey_5yr_2007- 08_PCT_Results_Table .pdf - I can only conclude Dr Andrew Mortimore is a two faced fool[/p][/quote]Time to go Dr Andrew Mortimore.. what difference have you made? - Dr Andrew Mortimore has worked locally for the last twenty years, Yet Portsmouth and Southampton have near identical dental health statistics. - http://www.southampt onhealth.nhs.uk/abou tus/whoweare/tb/exec / - South East.. 5-year-old survey results, 2007/08. Portsmouth and Southampton have near identical dental health statistics. - http://www.nwph.net/ dentalhealth/profile .aspx?id=la®ion=J[/p][/quote]Epigenetics: Fluoridation.. What you Eat/Drink can turn your genes on or off - BBC HORIZON - EPIGENETICS - THE GHOST IN YOUR GENES. published on 29 Aug 2012. Biology stands on the brink of a shift in the understanding of inheritance. The discovery of epigenetics -- hidden influences upon the genes -- could affect every aspect of our lives. EPIGENETICS ADDS A WHOLE NEW LAYER TO GENES BEYOND THE DNA. IT PROPOSES A CONTROL SYSTEM OF 'SWITCHES' THAT TURN GENES ON OR OFF -- AND SUGGESTS THAT THINGS PEOPLE EXPERIENCE, LIKE NUTRITION AND STRESS, CAN CONTROL THESE SWITCHES AND CAUSE HERITABLE EFFECTS IN HUMANS. research has demonstrated that genes and the environment are not mutually exclusive but are inextricably intertwined, one affecting the other. The idea that inheritance is not just about which genes you inherit but whether these are switched on or off is a whole new frontier in biology. It raises questions with huge implications, and means the search will be on to find what sort of environmental effects can affect these switches. - YOUTUBE VIDEO BBC HORIZON - EPIGENETICS. - http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=FvDgcdxPA 2U - I can only conclude Dr Andrew Mortimore has a hidden agenda[/p][/quote]Inform Al.. Here's an Aluminum/Fluoride double whammy. - We learn today from Britain’s chief medical officer, PROFESSOR DAME SALLY DAVIES that deaths in the U.K from liver disease have increased by a fifth between 2000 and 2009, while they have dropped by around the same amount in most comparable European countries. It's well known that the aluminium in beer kegs/cans is none too healthy for your kidney/liver. Inform Al, If as you say some beers are brewed using fluoridated water. I'd say aluminum and fluoride mixed in a can is a lethal combo. I'd also say Britain’s chief medical officer, PROFESSOR DAME SALLY DAVIES has more than a few questions on the safety of water Fluoridation to answer. - Re: Birmingham: under-fives treated for Rickets.. Blame Diet & lack of Sunlight or Fluoridation? - VITAMIN SCHEME LAUNCHED AS RICKETS RETURNS TO BIRMINGHAM. 24 Feb 2011. CHILDREN AND PREGNANT WOMEN across Birmingham are being targeted in a free vitamin drive after the re-emergence of a Victorian poverty disease. Cases of rickets in the city have surged in the past year – caused by a severe lack of Vitamin D and not getting enough exposure to sunlight. Modern day lifestyles of unhealthy food and also smothering children in sunscreen is being blamed for the disease, thought to have been eradicated 50 years ago, rearing its head. BRITAIN'S CHIEF MEDICAL OFFICER, DAME SALLY DAVIES, WARNED PARENTS TO GIVE ALL UNDER-FIVES VITAMIN D SUPPLEMENTS FOR DISEASES SUCH AS RICKETS LAST MONTH. - http://www.birmingha mmail.co.uk/news/loc al-news/vitamin-sche me-launched-as-ricke ts-returns-149080[/p][/quote]1990–2006 UK Thyroid Cancer doubles.. Fluoridated Birmingham Solihull/Arden No 1 hot spot - We are told by Fluoridation advocates that Fluoride does not raise the risk of Cancer. West Midlands, Birmingham, Solihull/Arden fluoridation scheme started in 1964. PROFILE OF HEAD AND NECK CANCERS IN ENGLAND: INCIDENCE, MORTALITY AND SURVIVAL. Trends in the incidence of thyroid gland cancer in England, 1990–2006. The incidence of thyroid cancer has nearly doubled • in the study period. East Midland and North of England, the largest Cancer Networks, have as expected the greatest total number of cases. AGE STANDARDISED RATES (PER 100,000 POPULATION) VARY FROM 3.39 IN ARDEN, TO 1.97 IN SUSSEX. - http://www.sph.nhs.u k/sph-documents/Fina l_Head_-_Neck_Profil es_04May2010.pdf[/p][/quote]Iceland: Fluoridated Birmingham Solihull/Arden UKs No 1 hot spot for Thyroid Cancer We are told by Fluoridation advocates that Fluoride does not raise the risk of Cancer yet Fluoridated Arden is the UKs No 1 Thyroid Cancer hot spot and Iceland has worlds highest Incidence of Thyroid Cancer, The only difference.. the Brumbies of Arden are force fed Fluoride in their water supply, the Icelanders have no choice in the matter, Toxic (Fluoride) Ash rains down on them. - TOXIC (FLUORIDE) ASH THREATENS ICELAND ANIMALS. 11:33 GMT, Monday, 19 April 2010. Farmers in southern Iceland have been racing to protect their animals from being poisoned by volcanic dust. "The risk is of fluoride poisoning if they breathe or eat too much," Berglind Hilmarsdottir, a dairy farmer from Nupur, told the AP news agency through a protective white dust mask. The animals are at risk of fluoride poisoning if they inhale or ingest the ash, leading to internal bleeding, long-term bone damage and teeth loss. - http://news.bbc.co.u k/1/hi/world/europe/ 8629241.stm - COUNTRIES WITH THE HIGHEST INCIDENCE OF THYROID CANCER. Countries With the Highest Incidence of thyroid Cancer. 1) ICELAND . - http://www.aneki.com /thyroid_cancer_coun tries.html - PROFILE OF HEAD AND NECK CANCERS IN ENGLAND: INCIDENCE, MORTALITY AND SURVIVAL. Trends in the incidence of thyroid gland cancer in England, 1990–2006. The incidence of thyroid cancer has nearly doubled • in the study period. East Midland and North of England, the largest Cancer Networks, have as expected the greatest total number of cases. AGE STANDARDISED RATES (PER 100,000 POPULATION) VARY FROM 3.39 IN ARDEN, TO 1.97 IN SUSSEX. - http://www.sph.nhs.u k/sph-documents/Fina l_Head_-_Neck_Profil es_04May2010.pdf Dan Soton

4:47pm Sun 25 Nov 12

Dan Soton says...

Epigenetics: Fluoride.. Toxins change DNA/Chromosomes.. Chromosomes linked to cancer.

-


Why would anyone deliberately expose humanity/pregnant women to Toxic Fluoride when Epigenetics tells us Toxins, Lifestyle, and what we eat or drink can change ( gene mutation) our DNA/Chromosomes.

-

Wikipedia: Epigenetics.. http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/Epigenetics



-

THREE CANCERS SHARE GENETIC LINK

19 August 2011.

By James Gallagher Health reporter, BBC News

CHROMOSOME CHROMOSOMES CONTAIN GENETIC INFORMATION - TOO MANY OR TOO FEW COULD LEAD TO CANCER.

A gene has been linked to at least three cancers in different tissues in the body, US researchers say.

Dr Julie Sharp, senior science information manager at Cancer Research UK, said: "Scientists have known for more than 100 years that having too many or too few chromosomes is linked to cancer and these results suggest that this is not just a characteristic but a cause of the disease.

"Their discovery sheds light on how chromosome numbers can be altered when cells divide and presents researchers with new ways to tackle cancer by designing drugs to upset this chain of events.

-


http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/health-1456205
4
Epigenetics: Fluoride.. Toxins change DNA/Chromosomes.. Chromosomes linked to cancer. - Why would anyone deliberately expose humanity/pregnant women to Toxic Fluoride when Epigenetics tells us Toxins, Lifestyle, and what we eat or drink can change ( gene mutation) our DNA/Chromosomes. - Wikipedia: Epigenetics.. http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Epigenetics - THREE CANCERS SHARE GENETIC LINK 19 August 2011. By James Gallagher Health reporter, BBC News CHROMOSOME CHROMOSOMES CONTAIN GENETIC INFORMATION - TOO MANY OR TOO FEW COULD LEAD TO CANCER. A gene has been linked to at least three cancers in different tissues in the body, US researchers say. Dr Julie Sharp, senior science information manager at Cancer Research UK, said: "Scientists have known for more than 100 years that having too many or too few chromosomes is linked to cancer and these results suggest that this is not just a characteristic but a cause of the disease. "Their discovery sheds light on how chromosome numbers can be altered when cells divide and presents researchers with new ways to tackle cancer by designing drugs to upset this chain of events. - http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/health-1456205 4 Dan Soton

4:48pm Sun 25 Nov 12

Dan Soton says...

Dan Soton wrote:
Dan Soton wrote:
Dan Soton wrote:
Dan Soton wrote:
Dan Soton wrote:
Dan Soton wrote:
Dan Soton wrote:
What's the argument.. Supervised toothbrushing is more costeffective than fluoridation.

-

Dr Andrew Mortimore is supposedly obsessed with saving money yet he will not contact Teachers in Manchester or Glasgow?


Google... Dr Andrew Mortimore cost effective.

-

http://tinyurl.com/c







wv6q9p
-


I can only conclude Dr Andrew Mortimore is a two faced fool
Dr Andrew Mortimore says... the West Midlands, have achieved some of the best dental health in the country



please correct me if I'm wrong...

-


West Midlands, Birmingham, Solihull first fluoridation scheme started in 1964.

-

http://tinyurl.com/c






5wll2g


-


5-year-old Survey 2007/08 - Primary Care Trust Data

Percentage of children with the presence of one or more dental abscess or sinuses

WEST MIDLANDS , BIRMINGHAM, SOLIHULL 2.5%



5-year-old Survey 2007/08 - Primary Care Trust Data

Percentage of children with the presence of one or more dental abscess or sinuses

SOUTHAMPTON CITY 1.3%

-


http://www.nwph.net/






dentalhealth/reports






/NHS_DEP_for_England






_OH_Survey_5yr_2007-






08_PCT_Results_Table






.pdf


-


I can only conclude Dr Andrew Mortimore is a two faced fool
Time to go Dr Andrew Mortimore.. what difference have you made?

-


Dr Andrew Mortimore has worked locally for the last twenty years, Yet Portsmouth and Southampton have near identical dental health statistics.

-

http://www.southampt





onhealth.nhs.uk/abou





tus/whoweare/tb/exec





/

-


South East.. 5-year-old survey results, 2007/08.

Portsmouth and Southampton have near identical dental health statistics.

-


http://www.nwph.net/





dentalhealth/profile





.aspx?id=la®ion=J
Epigenetics: Fluoridation.. What you Eat/Drink can turn your genes on or off

-



BBC HORIZON - EPIGENETICS - THE GHOST IN YOUR GENES.

published on 29 Aug 2012.

Biology stands on the brink of a shift in the understanding of inheritance. The discovery of epigenetics -- hidden influences upon the genes -- could affect every aspect of our lives.

EPIGENETICS ADDS A WHOLE NEW LAYER TO GENES BEYOND THE DNA. IT PROPOSES A CONTROL SYSTEM OF 'SWITCHES' THAT TURN GENES ON OR OFF -- AND SUGGESTS THAT THINGS PEOPLE EXPERIENCE, LIKE NUTRITION AND STRESS, CAN CONTROL THESE SWITCHES AND CAUSE HERITABLE EFFECTS IN HUMANS.

research has demonstrated that genes and the environment are not mutually exclusive but are inextricably intertwined, one affecting the other.

The idea that inheritance is not just about which genes you inherit but whether these are switched on or off is a whole new frontier in biology. It raises questions with huge implications, and means the search will be on to find what sort of environmental effects can affect these switches.

-


YOUTUBE VIDEO BBC HORIZON - EPIGENETICS.

-

http://www.youtube.c




om/watch?v=FvDgcdxPA




2U

-



I can only conclude Dr Andrew Mortimore has a hidden agenda
Inform Al.. Here's an Aluminum/Fluoride double whammy.

-


We learn today from Britain’s chief medical officer, PROFESSOR DAME SALLY DAVIES that deaths in the U.K from liver disease have increased by a fifth between 2000 and 2009, while they have dropped by around the same amount in most comparable European countries.


It's well known that the aluminium in beer kegs/cans is none too healthy for your kidney/liver.


Inform Al, If as you say some beers are brewed using fluoridated water.


I'd say aluminum and fluoride mixed in a can is a lethal combo.


I'd also say Britain’s chief medical officer, PROFESSOR DAME SALLY DAVIES has more than a few questions on the safety of water Fluoridation to answer.


-


Re: Birmingham: under-fives treated for Rickets.. Blame Diet & lack of Sunlight or Fluoridation?

-


VITAMIN SCHEME LAUNCHED AS RICKETS RETURNS TO BIRMINGHAM.

24 Feb 2011.

CHILDREN AND PREGNANT WOMEN across Birmingham are being targeted in a free vitamin drive after the re-emergence of a Victorian poverty disease.

Cases of rickets in the city have surged in the past year – caused by a severe lack of Vitamin D and not getting enough exposure to sunlight.

Modern day lifestyles of unhealthy food and also smothering children in sunscreen is being blamed for the disease, thought to have been eradicated 50 years ago, rearing its head.

BRITAIN'S CHIEF MEDICAL OFFICER, DAME SALLY DAVIES, WARNED PARENTS TO GIVE ALL UNDER-FIVES VITAMIN D SUPPLEMENTS FOR DISEASES SUCH AS RICKETS LAST MONTH.

-


http://www.birmingha



mmail.co.uk/news/loc



al-news/vitamin-sche



me-launched-as-ricke



ts-returns-149080
1990–2006 UK Thyroid Cancer doubles.. Fluoridated Birmingham Solihull/Arden No 1 hot spot

-


We are told by Fluoridation advocates that Fluoride does not raise the risk of Cancer.

West Midlands, Birmingham, Solihull/Arden fluoridation scheme started in 1964.




PROFILE OF HEAD AND NECK CANCERS IN ENGLAND: INCIDENCE, MORTALITY AND SURVIVAL.


Trends in the incidence of thyroid gland cancer in England, 1990–2006.

The incidence of thyroid cancer has nearly doubled • in the study period.

East Midland and North of England, the largest Cancer Networks, have as expected the greatest total number of cases.

AGE STANDARDISED RATES (PER 100,000 POPULATION) VARY FROM 3.39 IN ARDEN, TO 1.97 IN SUSSEX.

-


http://www.sph.nhs.u


k/sph-documents/Fina


l_Head_-_Neck_Profil


es_04May2010.pdf
Iceland: Fluoridated Birmingham Solihull/Arden UKs No 1 hot spot for Thyroid Cancer



We are told by Fluoridation advocates that Fluoride does not raise the risk of Cancer yet Fluoridated Arden is the UKs No 1 Thyroid Cancer hot spot and Iceland has worlds highest Incidence of Thyroid Cancer,

The only difference.. the Brumbies of Arden are force fed Fluoride in their water supply, the Icelanders have no choice in the matter, Toxic (Fluoride) Ash rains down on them.

-



TOXIC (FLUORIDE) ASH THREATENS ICELAND ANIMALS.

11:33 GMT, Monday, 19 April 2010.

Farmers in southern Iceland have been racing to protect their animals from being poisoned by volcanic dust.

"The risk is of fluoride poisoning if they breathe or eat too much," Berglind Hilmarsdottir, a dairy farmer from Nupur, told the AP news agency through a protective white dust mask.

The animals are at risk of fluoride poisoning if they inhale or ingest the ash, leading to internal bleeding, long-term bone damage and teeth loss.

-

http://news.bbc.co.u

k/1/hi/world/europe/

8629241.stm

-



COUNTRIES WITH THE HIGHEST INCIDENCE OF THYROID CANCER.

Countries With the Highest Incidence of thyroid Cancer.

1) ICELAND .


-

http://www.aneki.com

/thyroid_cancer_coun

tries.html

-



PROFILE OF HEAD AND NECK CANCERS IN ENGLAND: INCIDENCE, MORTALITY AND SURVIVAL.

Trends in the incidence of thyroid gland cancer in England, 1990–2006.

The incidence of thyroid cancer has nearly doubled • in the study period.

East Midland and North of England, the largest Cancer Networks, have as expected the greatest total number of cases.

AGE STANDARDISED RATES (PER 100,000 POPULATION) VARY FROM 3.39 IN ARDEN, TO 1.97 IN SUSSEX.

-


http://www.sph.nhs.u

k/sph-documents/Fina

l_Head_-_Neck_Profil

es_04May2010.pdf
Epigenetics: Fluoride.. Toxins change DNA/Chromosomes.. Chromosomes linked to cancer.

-


Why would anyone deliberately expose humanity/pregnant women to Toxic Fluoride when Epigenetics tells us Toxins, Lifestyle, and what we eat or drink can change ( gene mutation) our DNA/Chromosomes.

-

Wikipedia: Epigenetics.. http://en.wikipedia.
org/wiki/Epigenetics



-

THREE CANCERS SHARE GENETIC LINK

19 August 2011.

By James Gallagher Health reporter, BBC News

CHROMOSOME CHROMOSOMES CONTAIN GENETIC INFORMATION - TOO MANY OR TOO FEW COULD LEAD TO CANCER.

A gene has been linked to at least three cancers in different tissues in the body, US researchers say.

Dr Julie Sharp, senior science information manager at Cancer Research UK, said: "Scientists have known for more than 100 years that having too many or too few chromosomes is linked to cancer and these results suggest that this is not just a characteristic but a cause of the disease.

"Their discovery sheds light on how chromosome numbers can be altered when cells divide and presents researchers with new ways to tackle cancer by designing drugs to upset this chain of events.

-


http://www.bbc.co.uk
/news/health-1456205
4
[quote][p][bold]Dan Soton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dan Soton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dan Soton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dan Soton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dan Soton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dan Soton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dan Soton[/bold] wrote: What's the argument.. Supervised toothbrushing is more costeffective than fluoridation. - Dr Andrew Mortimore is supposedly obsessed with saving money yet he will not contact Teachers in Manchester or Glasgow? Google... Dr Andrew Mortimore cost effective. - http://tinyurl.com/c wv6q9p - I can only conclude Dr Andrew Mortimore is a two faced fool[/p][/quote]Dr Andrew Mortimore says... the West Midlands, have achieved some of the best dental health in the country please correct me if I'm wrong... - West Midlands, Birmingham, Solihull first fluoridation scheme started in 1964. - http://tinyurl.com/c 5wll2g - 5-year-old Survey 2007/08 - Primary Care Trust Data Percentage of children with the presence of one or more dental abscess or sinuses WEST MIDLANDS , BIRMINGHAM, SOLIHULL 2.5% 5-year-old Survey 2007/08 - Primary Care Trust Data Percentage of children with the presence of one or more dental abscess or sinuses SOUTHAMPTON CITY 1.3% - http://www.nwph.net/ dentalhealth/reports /NHS_DEP_for_England _OH_Survey_5yr_2007- 08_PCT_Results_Table .pdf - I can only conclude Dr Andrew Mortimore is a two faced fool[/p][/quote]Time to go Dr Andrew Mortimore.. what difference have you made? - Dr Andrew Mortimore has worked locally for the last twenty years, Yet Portsmouth and Southampton have near identical dental health statistics. - http://www.southampt onhealth.nhs.uk/abou tus/whoweare/tb/exec / - South East.. 5-year-old survey results, 2007/08. Portsmouth and Southampton have near identical dental health statistics. - http://www.nwph.net/ dentalhealth/profile .aspx?id=la®ion=J[/p][/quote]Epigenetics: Fluoridation.. What you Eat/Drink can turn your genes on or off - BBC HORIZON - EPIGENETICS - THE GHOST IN YOUR GENES. published on 29 Aug 2012. Biology stands on the brink of a shift in the understanding of inheritance. The discovery of epigenetics -- hidden influences upon the genes -- could affect every aspect of our lives. EPIGENETICS ADDS A WHOLE NEW LAYER TO GENES BEYOND THE DNA. IT PROPOSES A CONTROL SYSTEM OF 'SWITCHES' THAT TURN GENES ON OR OFF -- AND SUGGESTS THAT THINGS PEOPLE EXPERIENCE, LIKE NUTRITION AND STRESS, CAN CONTROL THESE SWITCHES AND CAUSE HERITABLE EFFECTS IN HUMANS. research has demonstrated that genes and the environment are not mutually exclusive but are inextricably intertwined, one affecting the other. The idea that inheritance is not just about which genes you inherit but whether these are switched on or off is a whole new frontier in biology. It raises questions with huge implications, and means the search will be on to find what sort of environmental effects can affect these switches. - YOUTUBE VIDEO BBC HORIZON - EPIGENETICS. - http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=FvDgcdxPA 2U - I can only conclude Dr Andrew Mortimore has a hidden agenda[/p][/quote]Inform Al.. Here's an Aluminum/Fluoride double whammy. - We learn today from Britain’s chief medical officer, PROFESSOR DAME SALLY DAVIES that deaths in the U.K from liver disease have increased by a fifth between 2000 and 2009, while they have dropped by around the same amount in most comparable European countries. It's well known that the aluminium in beer kegs/cans is none too healthy for your kidney/liver. Inform Al, If as you say some beers are brewed using fluoridated water. I'd say aluminum and fluoride mixed in a can is a lethal combo. I'd also say Britain’s chief medical officer, PROFESSOR DAME SALLY DAVIES has more than a few questions on the safety of water Fluoridation to answer. - Re: Birmingham: under-fives treated for Rickets.. Blame Diet & lack of Sunlight or Fluoridation? - VITAMIN SCHEME LAUNCHED AS RICKETS RETURNS TO BIRMINGHAM. 24 Feb 2011. CHILDREN AND PREGNANT WOMEN across Birmingham are being targeted in a free vitamin drive after the re-emergence of a Victorian poverty disease. Cases of rickets in the city have surged in the past year – caused by a severe lack of Vitamin D and not getting enough exposure to sunlight. Modern day lifestyles of unhealthy food and also smothering children in sunscreen is being blamed for the disease, thought to have been eradicated 50 years ago, rearing its head. BRITAIN'S CHIEF MEDICAL OFFICER, DAME SALLY DAVIES, WARNED PARENTS TO GIVE ALL UNDER-FIVES VITAMIN D SUPPLEMENTS FOR DISEASES SUCH AS RICKETS LAST MONTH. - http://www.birmingha mmail.co.uk/news/loc al-news/vitamin-sche me-launched-as-ricke ts-returns-149080[/p][/quote]1990–2006 UK Thyroid Cancer doubles.. Fluoridated Birmingham Solihull/Arden No 1 hot spot - We are told by Fluoridation advocates that Fluoride does not raise the risk of Cancer. West Midlands, Birmingham, Solihull/Arden fluoridation scheme started in 1964. PROFILE OF HEAD AND NECK CANCERS IN ENGLAND: INCIDENCE, MORTALITY AND SURVIVAL. Trends in the incidence of thyroid gland cancer in England, 1990–2006. The incidence of thyroid cancer has nearly doubled • in the study period. East Midland and North of England, the largest Cancer Networks, have as expected the greatest total number of cases. AGE STANDARDISED RATES (PER 100,000 POPULATION) VARY FROM 3.39 IN ARDEN, TO 1.97 IN SUSSEX. - http://www.sph.nhs.u k/sph-documents/Fina l_Head_-_Neck_Profil es_04May2010.pdf[/p][/quote]Iceland: Fluoridated Birmingham Solihull/Arden UKs No 1 hot spot for Thyroid Cancer We are told by Fluoridation advocates that Fluoride does not raise the risk of Cancer yet Fluoridated Arden is the UKs No 1 Thyroid Cancer hot spot and Iceland has worlds highest Incidence of Thyroid Cancer, The only difference.. the Brumbies of Arden are force fed Fluoride in their water supply, the Icelanders have no choice in the matter, Toxic (Fluoride) Ash rains down on them. - TOXIC (FLUORIDE) ASH THREATENS ICELAND ANIMALS. 11:33 GMT, Monday, 19 April 2010. Farmers in southern Iceland have been racing to protect their animals from being poisoned by volcanic dust. "The risk is of fluoride poisoning if they breathe or eat too much," Berglind Hilmarsdottir, a dairy farmer from Nupur, told the AP news agency through a protective white dust mask. The animals are at risk of fluoride poisoning if they inhale or ingest the ash, leading to internal bleeding, long-term bone damage and teeth loss. - http://news.bbc.co.u k/1/hi/world/europe/ 8629241.stm - COUNTRIES WITH THE HIGHEST INCIDENCE OF THYROID CANCER. Countries With the Highest Incidence of thyroid Cancer. 1) ICELAND . - http://www.aneki.com /thyroid_cancer_coun tries.html - PROFILE OF HEAD AND NECK CANCERS IN ENGLAND: INCIDENCE, MORTALITY AND SURVIVAL. Trends in the incidence of thyroid gland cancer in England, 1990–2006. The incidence of thyroid cancer has nearly doubled • in the study period. East Midland and North of England, the largest Cancer Networks, have as expected the greatest total number of cases. AGE STANDARDISED RATES (PER 100,000 POPULATION) VARY FROM 3.39 IN ARDEN, TO 1.97 IN SUSSEX. - http://www.sph.nhs.u k/sph-documents/Fina l_Head_-_Neck_Profil es_04May2010.pdf[/p][/quote]Epigenetics: Fluoride.. Toxins change DNA/Chromosomes.. Chromosomes linked to cancer. - Why would anyone deliberately expose humanity/pregnant women to Toxic Fluoride when Epigenetics tells us Toxins, Lifestyle, and what we eat or drink can change ( gene mutation) our DNA/Chromosomes. - Wikipedia: Epigenetics.. http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Epigenetics - THREE CANCERS SHARE GENETIC LINK 19 August 2011. By James Gallagher Health reporter, BBC News CHROMOSOME CHROMOSOMES CONTAIN GENETIC INFORMATION - TOO MANY OR TOO FEW COULD LEAD TO CANCER. A gene has been linked to at least three cancers in different tissues in the body, US researchers say. Dr Julie Sharp, senior science information manager at Cancer Research UK, said: "Scientists have known for more than 100 years that having too many or too few chromosomes is linked to cancer and these results suggest that this is not just a characteristic but a cause of the disease. "Their discovery sheds light on how chromosome numbers can be altered when cells divide and presents researchers with new ways to tackle cancer by designing drugs to upset this chain of events. - http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/health-1456205 4 Dan Soton

4:50pm Sun 25 Nov 12

Dan Soton says...

Dan Soton wrote:
Dan Soton wrote:
Dan Soton wrote:
Dan Soton wrote:
Dan Soton wrote:
Dan Soton wrote:
Dan Soton wrote:
Dan Soton wrote:
What's the argument.. Supervised toothbrushing is more costeffective than fluoridation.

-

Dr Andrew Mortimore is supposedly obsessed with saving money yet he will not contact Teachers in Manchester or Glasgow?


Google... Dr Andrew Mortimore cost effective.

-

http://tinyurl.com/c








wv6q9p
-


I can only conclude Dr Andrew Mortimore is a two faced fool
Dr Andrew Mortimore says... the West Midlands, have achieved some of the best dental health in the country



please correct me if I'm wrong...

-


West Midlands, Birmingham, Solihull first fluoridation scheme started in 1964.

-

http://tinyurl.com/c







5wll2g


-


5-year-old Survey 2007/08 - Primary Care Trust Data

Percentage of children with the presence of one or more dental abscess or sinuses

WEST MIDLANDS , BIRMINGHAM, SOLIHULL 2.5%



5-year-old Survey 2007/08 - Primary Care Trust Data

Percentage of children with the presence of one or more dental abscess or sinuses

SOUTHAMPTON CITY 1.3%

-


http://www.nwph.net/







dentalhealth/reports







/NHS_DEP_for_England







_OH_Survey_5yr_2007-







08_PCT_Results_Table







.pdf


-


I can only conclude Dr Andrew Mortimore is a two faced fool
Time to go Dr Andrew Mortimore.. what difference have you made?

-


Dr Andrew Mortimore has worked locally for the last twenty years, Yet Portsmouth and Southampton have near identical dental health statistics.

-

http://www.southampt






onhealth.nhs.uk/abou






tus/whoweare/tb/exec






/

-


South East.. 5-year-old survey results, 2007/08.

Portsmouth and Southampton have near identical dental health statistics.

-


http://www.nwph.net/






dentalhealth/profile






.aspx?id=la®ion=J
Epigenetics: Fluoridation.. What you Eat/Drink can turn your genes on or off

-



BBC HORIZON - EPIGENETICS - THE GHOST IN YOUR GENES.

published on 29 Aug 2012.

Biology stands on the brink of a shift in the understanding of inheritance. The discovery of epigenetics -- hidden influences upon the genes -- could affect every aspect of our lives.

EPIGENETICS ADDS A WHOLE NEW LAYER TO GENES BEYOND THE DNA. IT PROPOSES A CONTROL SYSTEM OF 'SWITCHES' THAT TURN GENES ON OR OFF -- AND SUGGESTS THAT THINGS PEOPLE EXPERIENCE, LIKE NUTRITION AND STRESS, CAN CONTROL THESE SWITCHES AND CAUSE HERITABLE EFFECTS IN HUMANS.

research has demonstrated that genes and the environment are not mutually exclusive but are inextricably intertwined, one affecting the other.

The idea that inheritance is not just about which genes you inherit but whether these are switched on or off is a whole new frontier in biology. It raises questions with huge implications, and means the search will be on to find what sort of environmental effects can affect these switches.

-


YOUTUBE VIDEO BBC HORIZON - EPIGENETICS.

-

http://www.youtube.c





om/watch?v=FvDgcdxPA





2U

-



I can only conclude Dr Andrew Mortimore has a hidden agenda
Inform Al.. Here's an Aluminum/Fluoride double whammy.

-


We learn today from Britain’s chief medical officer, PROFESSOR DAME SALLY DAVIES that deaths in the U.K from liver disease have increased by a fifth between 2000 and 2009, while they have dropped by around the same amount in most comparable European countries.


It's well known that the aluminium in beer kegs/cans is none too healthy for your kidney/liver.


Inform Al, If as you say some beers are brewed using fluoridated water.


I'd say aluminum and fluoride mixed in a can is a lethal combo.


I'd also say Britain’s chief medical officer, PROFESSOR DAME SALLY DAVIES has more than a few questions on the safety of water Fluoridation to answer.


-


Re: Birmingham: under-fives treated for Rickets.. Blame Diet & lack of Sunlight or Fluoridation?

-


VITAMIN SCHEME LAUNCHED AS RICKETS RETURNS TO BIRMINGHAM.

24 Feb 2011.

CHILDREN AND PREGNANT WOMEN across Birmingham are being targeted in a free vitamin drive after the re-emergence of a Victorian poverty disease.

Cases of rickets in the city have surged in the past year – caused by a severe lack of Vitamin D and not getting enough exposure to sunlight.

Modern day lifestyles of unhealthy food and also smothering children in sunscreen is being blamed for the disease, thought to have been eradicated 50 years ago, rearing its head.

BRITAIN'S CHIEF MEDICAL OFFICER, DAME SALLY DAVIES, WARNED PARENTS TO GIVE ALL UNDER-FIVES VITAMIN D SUPPLEMENTS FOR DISEASES SUCH AS RICKETS LAST MONTH.

-


http://www.birmingha




mmail.co.uk/news/loc




al-news/vitamin-sche




me-launched-as-ricke




ts-returns-149080
1990–2006 UK Thyroid Cancer doubles.. Fluoridated Birmingham Solihull/Arden No 1 hot spot

-


We are told by Fluoridation advocates that Fluoride does not raise the risk of Cancer.

West Midlands, Birmingham, Solihull/Arden fluoridation scheme started in 1964.




PROFILE OF HEAD AND NECK CANCERS IN ENGLAND: INCIDENCE, MORTALITY AND SURVIVAL.


Trends in the incidence of thyroid gland cancer in England, 1990–2006.

The incidence of thyroid cancer has nearly doubled • in the study period.

East Midland and North of England, the largest Cancer Networks, have as expected the greatest total number of cases.

AGE STANDARDISED RATES (PER 100,000 POPULATION) VARY FROM 3.39 IN ARDEN, TO 1.97 IN SUSSEX.

-


http://www.sph.nhs.u



k/sph-documents/Fina



l_Head_-_Neck_Profil



es_04May2010.pdf
Iceland: Fluoridated Birmingham Solihull/Arden UKs No 1 hot spot for Thyroid Cancer



We are told by Fluoridation advocates that Fluoride does not raise the risk of Cancer yet Fluoridated Arden is the UKs No 1 Thyroid Cancer hot spot and Iceland has worlds highest Incidence of Thyroid Cancer,

The only difference.. the Brumbies of Arden are force fed Fluoride in their water supply, the Icelanders have no choice in the matter, Toxic (Fluoride) Ash rains down on them.

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TOXIC (FLUORIDE) ASH THREATENS ICELAND ANIMALS.

11:33 GMT, Monday, 19 April 2010.

Farmers in southern Iceland have been racing to protect their animals from being poisoned by volcanic dust.

"The risk is of fluoride poisoning if they breathe or eat too much," Berglind Hilmarsdottir, a dairy farmer from Nupur, told the AP news agency through a protective white dust mask.

The animals are at risk of fluoride poisoning if they inhale or ingest the ash, leading to internal bleeding, long-term bone damage and teeth loss.

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http://news.bbc.co.u


k/1/hi/world/europe/


8629241.stm

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COUNTRIES WITH THE HIGHEST INCIDENCE OF THYROID CANCER.

Countries With the Highest Incidence of thyroid Cancer.

1) ICELAND .


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http://www.aneki.com


/thyroid_cancer_coun


tries.html

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PROFILE OF HEAD AND NECK CANCERS IN ENGLAND: INCIDENCE, MORTALITY AND SURVIVAL.

Trends in the incidence of thyroid gland cancer in England, 1990–2006.

The incidence of thyroid cancer has nearly doubled • in the study period.

East Midland and North of England, the largest Cancer Networks, have as expected the greatest total number of cases.

AGE STANDARDISED RATES (PER 100,000 POPULATION) VARY FROM 3.39 IN ARDEN, TO 1.97 IN SUSSEX.

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http://www.sph.nhs.u


k/sph-documents/Fina


l_Head_-_Neck_Profil


es_04May2010.pdf
Epigenetics: Fluoride.. Toxins change DNA/Chromosomes.. Chromosomes linked to cancer.

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Why would anyone deliberately expose humanity/pregnant women to Toxic Fluoride when Epigenetics tells us Toxins, Lifestyle, and what we eat or drink can change ( gene mutation) our DNA/Chromosomes.

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Wikipedia: Epigenetics.. http://en.wikipedia.

org/wiki/Epigenetics




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THREE CANCERS SHARE GENETIC LINK

19 August 2011.

By James Gallagher Health reporter, BBC News

CHROMOSOME CHROMOSOMES CONTAIN GENETIC INFORMATION - TOO MANY OR TOO FEW COULD LEAD TO CANCER.

A gene has been linked to at least three cancers in different tissues in the body, US researchers say.

Dr Julie Sharp, senior science information manager at Cancer Research UK, said: "Scientists have known for more than 100 years that having too many or too few chromosomes is linked to cancer and these results suggest that this is not just a characteristic but a cause of the disease.

"Their discovery sheds light on how chromosome numbers can be altered when cells divide and presents researchers with new ways to tackle cancer by designing drugs to upset this chain of events.

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http://www.bbc.co.uk

/news/health-1456205

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Epigenetics: Fluoridation advocates take away our right to strive for a better world.


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Epigenetics tells us that from the beginning of time are genes have been constantly pursuing a safer, healthier, less toxic world.


my unqualified view is, at best Fluoridation advocates are taking away our right to strive for a better world at worst turning back/destroying the human clock.

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EPIGENETICS: YOU ARE WHAT YOUR GRANDPARENTS ATE.

Some chemicals may leave people vulnerable to diseases like cancer and diabetes, not by mutating genes but by turning them off or on at the wrong time. according to both animal and human studies what a pregnant mother eats and the chemicals she is exposed to can affect her offspring these changes, in turn, CAN BE PASSED ON TO THE NEXT GENERATIONS.

Exposure to gene-altering substances, particularly in the womb and shortly after birth, "can lead to increased susceptibility to disease," said Linda S. Birnbaum, who was named director of the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences and of the National Toxicology Program in December. "THE SUSCEPTIBILITY PERSISTS LONG AFTER THE EXPOSURE IS GONE, EVEN DECADES LATER. Glands, organs, and systems can be permanently altered."

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VIDEO EPIGENETICS: BBC TWO, DARA O` BRIAIN'S SCIENCE CLUB.

Published on Nov 8, 2012.

Dara is joined by neuroscientist Tali Sharot, who explores the cutting-edge science of epigenetics.

VIDEO EPIGENETICS@46 MINS..

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http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=S9jqTaLti
jw
[quote][p][bold]Dan Soton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dan Soton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dan Soton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dan Soton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dan Soton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dan Soton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dan Soton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Dan Soton[/bold] wrote: What's the argument.. Supervised toothbrushing is more costeffective than fluoridation. - Dr Andrew Mortimore is supposedly obsessed with saving money yet he will not contact Teachers in Manchester or Glasgow? Google... Dr Andrew Mortimore cost effective. - http://tinyurl.com/c wv6q9p - I can only conclude Dr Andrew Mortimore is a two faced fool[/p][/quote]Dr Andrew Mortimore says... the West Midlands, have achieved some of the best dental health in the country please correct me if I'm wrong... - West Midlands, Birmingham, Solihull first fluoridation scheme started in 1964. - http://tinyurl.com/c 5wll2g - 5-year-old Survey 2007/08 - Primary Care Trust Data Percentage of children with the presence of one or more dental abscess or sinuses WEST MIDLANDS , BIRMINGHAM, SOLIHULL 2.5% 5-year-old Survey 2007/08 - Primary Care Trust Data Percentage of children with the presence of one or more dental abscess or sinuses SOUTHAMPTON CITY 1.3% - http://www.nwph.net/ dentalhealth/reports /NHS_DEP_for_England _OH_Survey_5yr_2007- 08_PCT_Results_Table .pdf - I can only conclude Dr Andrew Mortimore is a two faced fool[/p][/quote]Time to go Dr Andrew Mortimore.. what difference have you made? - Dr Andrew Mortimore has worked locally for the last twenty years, Yet Portsmouth and Southampton have near identical dental health statistics. - http://www.southampt onhealth.nhs.uk/abou tus/whoweare/tb/exec / - South East.. 5-year-old survey results, 2007/08. Portsmouth and Southampton have near identical dental health statistics. - http://www.nwph.net/ dentalhealth/profile .aspx?id=la®ion=J[/p][/quote]Epigenetics: Fluoridation.. What you Eat/Drink can turn your genes on or off - BBC HORIZON - EPIGENETICS - THE GHOST IN YOUR GENES. published on 29 Aug 2012. Biology stands on the brink of a shift in the understanding of inheritance. The discovery of epigenetics -- hidden influences upon the genes -- could affect every aspect of our lives. EPIGENETICS ADDS A WHOLE NEW LAYER TO GENES BEYOND THE DNA. IT PROPOSES A CONTROL SYSTEM OF 'SWITCHES' THAT TURN GENES ON OR OFF -- AND SUGGESTS THAT THINGS PEOPLE EXPERIENCE, LIKE NUTRITION AND STRESS, CAN CONTROL THESE SWITCHES AND CAUSE HERITABLE EFFECTS IN HUMANS. research has demonstrated that genes and the environment are not mutually exclusive but are inextricably intertwined, one affecting the other. The idea that inheritance is not just about which genes you inherit but whether these are switched on or off is a whole new frontier in biology. It raises questions with huge implications, and means the search will be on to find what sort of environmental effects can affect these switches. - YOUTUBE VIDEO BBC HORIZON - EPIGENETICS. - http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=FvDgcdxPA 2U - I can only conclude Dr Andrew Mortimore has a hidden agenda[/p][/quote]Inform Al.. Here's an Aluminum/Fluoride double whammy. - We learn today from Britain’s chief medical officer, PROFESSOR DAME SALLY DAVIES that deaths in the U.K from liver disease have increased by a fifth between 2000 and 2009, while they have dropped by around the same amount in most comparable European countries. It's well known that the aluminium in beer kegs/cans is none too healthy for your kidney/liver. Inform Al, If as you say some beers are brewed using fluoridated water. I'd say aluminum and fluoride mixed in a can is a lethal combo. I'd also say Britain’s chief medical officer, PROFESSOR DAME SALLY DAVIES has more than a few questions on the safety of water Fluoridation to answer. - Re: Birmingham: under-fives treated for Rickets.. Blame Diet & lack of Sunlight or Fluoridation? - VITAMIN SCHEME LAUNCHED AS RICKETS RETURNS TO BIRMINGHAM. 24 Feb 2011. CHILDREN AND PREGNANT WOMEN across Birmingham are being targeted in a free vitamin drive after the re-emergence of a Victorian poverty disease. Cases of rickets in the city have surged in the past year – caused by a severe lack of Vitamin D and not getting enough exposure to sunlight. Modern day lifestyles of unhealthy food and also smothering children in sunscreen is being blamed for the disease, thought to have been eradicated 50 years ago, rearing its head. BRITAIN'S CHIEF MEDICAL OFFICER, DAME SALLY DAVIES, WARNED PARENTS TO GIVE ALL UNDER-FIVES VITAMIN D SUPPLEMENTS FOR DISEASES SUCH AS RICKETS LAST MONTH. - http://www.birmingha mmail.co.uk/news/loc al-news/vitamin-sche me-launched-as-ricke ts-returns-149080[/p][/quote]1990–2006 UK Thyroid Cancer doubles.. Fluoridated Birmingham Solihull/Arden No 1 hot spot - We are told by Fluoridation advocates that Fluoride does not raise the risk of Cancer. West Midlands, Birmingham, Solihull/Arden fluoridation scheme started in 1964. PROFILE OF HEAD AND NECK CANCERS IN ENGLAND: INCIDENCE, MORTALITY AND SURVIVAL. Trends in the incidence of thyroid gland cancer in England, 1990–2006. The incidence of thyroid cancer has nearly doubled • in the study period. East Midland and North of England, the largest Cancer Networks, have as expected the greatest total number of cases. AGE STANDARDISED RATES (PER 100,000 POPULATION) VARY FROM 3.39 IN ARDEN, TO 1.97 IN SUSSEX. - http://www.sph.nhs.u k/sph-documents/Fina l_Head_-_Neck_Profil es_04May2010.pdf[/p][/quote]Iceland: Fluoridated Birmingham Solihull/Arden UKs No 1 hot spot for Thyroid Cancer We are told by Fluoridation advocates that Fluoride does not raise the risk of Cancer yet Fluoridated Arden is the UKs No 1 Thyroid Cancer hot spot and Iceland has worlds highest Incidence of Thyroid Cancer, The only difference.. the Brumbies of Arden are force fed Fluoride in their water supply, the Icelanders have no choice in the matter, Toxic (Fluoride) Ash rains down on them. - TOXIC (FLUORIDE) ASH THREATENS ICELAND ANIMALS. 11:33 GMT, Monday, 19 April 2010. Farmers in southern Iceland have been racing to protect their animals from being poisoned by volcanic dust. "The risk is of fluoride poisoning if they breathe or eat too much," Berglind Hilmarsdottir, a dairy farmer from Nupur, told the AP news agency through a protective white dust mask. The animals are at risk of fluoride poisoning if they inhale or ingest the ash, leading to internal bleeding, long-term bone damage and teeth loss. - http://news.bbc.co.u k/1/hi/world/europe/ 8629241.stm - COUNTRIES WITH THE HIGHEST INCIDENCE OF THYROID CANCER. Countries With the Highest Incidence of thyroid Cancer. 1) ICELAND . - http://www.aneki.com /thyroid_cancer_coun tries.html - PROFILE OF HEAD AND NECK CANCERS IN ENGLAND: INCIDENCE, MORTALITY AND SURVIVAL. Trends in the incidence of thyroid gland cancer in England, 1990–2006. The incidence of thyroid cancer has nearly doubled • in the study period. East Midland and North of England, the largest Cancer Networks, have as expected the greatest total number of cases. AGE STANDARDISED RATES (PER 100,000 POPULATION) VARY FROM 3.39 IN ARDEN, TO 1.97 IN SUSSEX. - http://www.sph.nhs.u k/sph-documents/Fina l_Head_-_Neck_Profil es_04May2010.pdf[/p][/quote]Epigenetics: Fluoride.. Toxins change DNA/Chromosomes.. Chromosomes linked to cancer. - Why would anyone deliberately expose humanity/pregnant women to Toxic Fluoride when Epigenetics tells us Toxins, Lifestyle, and what we eat or drink can change ( gene mutation) our DNA/Chromosomes. - Wikipedia: Epigenetics.. http://en.wikipedia. org/wiki/Epigenetics - THREE CANCERS SHARE GENETIC LINK 19 August 2011. By James Gallagher Health reporter, BBC News CHROMOSOME CHROMOSOMES CONTAIN GENETIC INFORMATION - TOO MANY OR TOO FEW COULD LEAD TO CANCER. A gene has been linked to at least three cancers in different tissues in the body, US researchers say. Dr Julie Sharp, senior science information manager at Cancer Research UK, said: "Scientists have known for more than 100 years that having too many or too few chromosomes is linked to cancer and these results suggest that this is not just a characteristic but a cause of the disease. "Their discovery sheds light on how chromosome numbers can be altered when cells divide and presents researchers with new ways to tackle cancer by designing drugs to upset this chain of events. - http://www.bbc.co.uk /news/health-1456205 4[/p][/quote]Epigenetics: Fluoridation advocates take away our right to strive for a better world. - Epigenetics tells us that from the beginning of time are genes have been constantly pursuing a safer, healthier, less toxic world. my unqualified view is, at best Fluoridation advocates are taking away our right to strive for a better world at worst turning back/destroying the human clock. - EPIGENETICS: YOU ARE WHAT YOUR GRANDPARENTS ATE. Some chemicals may leave people vulnerable to diseases like cancer and diabetes, not by mutating genes but by turning them off or on at the wrong time. according to both animal and human studies what a pregnant mother eats and the chemicals she is exposed to can affect her offspring these changes, in turn, CAN BE PASSED ON TO THE NEXT GENERATIONS. Exposure to gene-altering substances, particularly in the womb and shortly after birth, "can lead to increased susceptibility to disease," said Linda S. Birnbaum, who was named director of the National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences and of the National Toxicology Program in December. "THE SUSCEPTIBILITY PERSISTS LONG AFTER THE EXPOSURE IS GONE, EVEN DECADES LATER. Glands, organs, and systems can be permanently altered." - VIDEO EPIGENETICS: BBC TWO, DARA O` BRIAIN'S SCIENCE CLUB. Published on Nov 8, 2012. Dara is joined by neuroscientist Tali Sharot, who explores the cutting-edge science of epigenetics. VIDEO EPIGENETICS@46 MINS.. - http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=S9jqTaLti jw Dan Soton

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