Revealed: The 25,000 victims of domestic violence

Daily Echo: The 25,000 victims of domestic violence The 25,000 victims of domestic violence

IT’S one of the most terrifying yet often unspoken about crimes and at its peak can see 12 victims every hour in Hampshire.

Since April this year almost 25,000 people have suffered domestic violence at the hands of an aggressive partner – and they are just the ones that get reported.

Today, as the festive period gets under way when calls typically spiral by 20 per cent, police and council chiefs have launched a campaign to encourage victims to speak out and seek help.

Detective Chief Inspector Ben Snuggs, leading the initiative, said: “The message is simple – if you don’t speak out today there might not be a tomorrow”.

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11:52am Mon 10 Dec 12

arthur dalyrimple says...

ban stella artois .
ban stella artois . arthur dalyrimple

12:30pm Mon 10 Dec 12

pippen99 says...

hang them up by their walnuts
hang them up by their walnuts pippen99

12:34pm Mon 10 Dec 12

Lockssmart says...

Put them in the Northem end with a Pompey shirt on
Put them in the Northem end with a Pompey shirt on Lockssmart

1:28pm Mon 10 Dec 12

MGRA says...

Hmmm. so hampshire has 1,800,000 people in it. Of those approx 1,200,000 are adults living in a relationship. So thats 600,000 potential victims. If there are 25,000 victims reported then that is 1-in-24 of all potenials which in my experience would seem about right. So although there will indeed be some unreported, these figures do suggest that its likely that the majorty are getting flagged up.
Hmmm. so hampshire has 1,800,000 people in it. Of those approx 1,200,000 are adults living in a relationship. So thats 600,000 potential victims. If there are 25,000 victims reported then that is 1-in-24 of all potenials which in my experience would seem about right. So although there will indeed be some unreported, these figures do suggest that its likely that the majorty are getting flagged up. MGRA

1:42pm Mon 10 Dec 12

southy says...

"police and council chiefs have launched a campaign"

Councils all over England have been or will be cutting funds to the victims of domestic violence, and that includes both Hampshire and Southampton.
So cases will be reported but nothing will be done to help people.
"police and council chiefs have launched a campaign" Councils all over England have been or will be cutting funds to the victims of domestic violence, and that includes both Hampshire and Southampton. So cases will be reported but nothing will be done to help people. southy

1:45pm Mon 10 Dec 12

MGRA says...

southy wrote:
"police and council chiefs have launched a campaign"

Councils all over England have been or will be cutting funds to the victims of domestic violence, and that includes both Hampshire and Southampton.
So cases will be reported but nothing will be done to help people.
sadly you are correct. but the solution is simple. More prosecutions, more nutcases locked up.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: "police and council chiefs have launched a campaign" Councils all over England have been or will be cutting funds to the victims of domestic violence, and that includes both Hampshire and Southampton. So cases will be reported but nothing will be done to help people.[/p][/quote]sadly you are correct. but the solution is simple. More prosecutions, more nutcases locked up. MGRA

2:21pm Mon 10 Dec 12

Big Mac says...

There's a first. Someone considers Southy correct. Whatever next?
There's a first. Someone considers Southy correct. Whatever next? Big Mac

3:02pm Mon 10 Dec 12

WellI'llBeDamned says...

It would be good if the perpetrators were actually locked up!! Countless calls to the police and he only went to prison when an attack took place out in the streets!! Yes I should of 'got rid' years before I did but it's not as easy as people seem to think it is..!
It would be good if the perpetrators were actually locked up!! Countless calls to the police and he only went to prison when an attack took place out in the streets!! Yes I should of 'got rid' years before I did but it's not as easy as people seem to think it is..! WellI'llBeDamned

3:16pm Mon 10 Dec 12

southy says...

Big Mac wrote:
There's a first. Someone considers Southy correct. Whatever next?
Thats because the trolls seem to be lacking today
[quote][p][bold]Big Mac[/bold] wrote: There's a first. Someone considers Southy correct. Whatever next?[/p][/quote]Thats because the trolls seem to be lacking today southy

3:50pm Mon 10 Dec 12

Shoong says...

southy wrote:
Big Mac wrote:
There's a first. Someone considers Southy correct. Whatever next?
Thats because the trolls seem to be lacking today
Well, you couldn't resist getting a bit of campaigning in could you? For a topic such as this, it's just as bad as trolling. Although of course trolling in your book is anyone who disagrees with you.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Big Mac[/bold] wrote: There's a first. Someone considers Southy correct. Whatever next?[/p][/quote]Thats because the trolls seem to be lacking today[/p][/quote]Well, you couldn't resist getting a bit of campaigning in could you? For a topic such as this, it's just as bad as trolling. Although of course trolling in your book is anyone who disagrees with you. Shoong

4:44pm Mon 10 Dec 12

cantthinkofone says...

Any campaign against domestic violence is a good thing.

But what most campaigns ignore is the significant minority of male victims and female aggressors. Not as prevalent of course, but still certainly significant and undoubtedly even MORE under-reported than female victims. Even worse, when it IS reported then the police often laugh at the victim and tell them to 'man up' or similar.

The 'grim toll' article says:

"As part of the campaign stickers are being placed in men’s bathrooms in clubs and pubs in 85 venues across Hampshire.

And police will target female victims for the first time by using social media to encourage victims to speak out."

On that evidence, it looks like the same mistake is being made yet again.

We should be making ALL domestic violence unacceptable, not just the violence against women.
Any campaign against domestic violence is a good thing. But what most campaigns ignore is the significant minority of male victims and female aggressors. Not as prevalent of course, but still certainly significant and undoubtedly even MORE under-reported than female victims. Even worse, when it IS reported then the police often laugh at the victim and tell them to 'man up' or similar. The 'grim toll' article says: "As part of the campaign stickers are being placed in men’s bathrooms in clubs and pubs in 85 venues across Hampshire. And police will target female victims for the first time by using social media to encourage victims to speak out." On that evidence, it looks like the same mistake is being made yet again. We should be making ALL domestic violence unacceptable, not just the violence against women. cantthinkofone

5:06pm Mon 10 Dec 12

Over the Edge says...

cantthinkofone wrote:
Any campaign against domestic violence is a good thing.

But what most campaigns ignore is the significant minority of male victims and female aggressors. Not as prevalent of course, but still certainly significant and undoubtedly even MORE under-reported than female victims. Even worse, when it IS reported then the police often laugh at the victim and tell them to 'man up' or similar.

The 'grim toll' article says:

"As part of the campaign stickers are being placed in men’s bathrooms in clubs and pubs in 85 venues across Hampshire.

And police will target female victims for the first time by using social media to encourage victims to speak out."

On that evidence, it looks like the same mistake is being made yet again.

We should be making ALL domestic violence unacceptable, not just the violence against women.
Although I don't agree that the police laugh at male victims, it is often the case that that the complaint is not taken seriously, if there is a child/ren involved it is often the male victim gets asked to leave the home, I spent years taking abuse at the hands/fists of my female partner, it would always be me who would have the leave the house because of the children.

My ex partner knew this and would use that as weapon against, I agree it's more common for women to be victims but it works both ways.
[quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: Any campaign against domestic violence is a good thing. But what most campaigns ignore is the significant minority of male victims and female aggressors. Not as prevalent of course, but still certainly significant and undoubtedly even MORE under-reported than female victims. Even worse, when it IS reported then the police often laugh at the victim and tell them to 'man up' or similar. The 'grim toll' article says: "As part of the campaign stickers are being placed in men’s bathrooms in clubs and pubs in 85 venues across Hampshire. And police will target female victims for the first time by using social media to encourage victims to speak out." On that evidence, it looks like the same mistake is being made yet again. We should be making ALL domestic violence unacceptable, not just the violence against women.[/p][/quote]Although I don't agree that the police laugh at male victims, it is often the case that that the complaint is not taken seriously, if there is a child/ren involved it is often the male victim gets asked to leave the home, I spent years taking abuse at the hands/fists of my female partner, it would always be me who would have the leave the house because of the children. My ex partner knew this and would use that as weapon against, I agree it's more common for women to be victims but it works both ways. Over the Edge

5:07pm Mon 10 Dec 12

southy says...

cantthinkofone wrote:
Any campaign against domestic violence is a good thing.

But what most campaigns ignore is the significant minority of male victims and female aggressors. Not as prevalent of course, but still certainly significant and undoubtedly even MORE under-reported than female victims. Even worse, when it IS reported then the police often laugh at the victim and tell them to 'man up' or similar.

The 'grim toll' article says:

"As part of the campaign stickers are being placed in men’s bathrooms in clubs and pubs in 85 venues across Hampshire.

And police will target female victims for the first time by using social media to encourage victims to speak out."

On that evidence, it looks like the same mistake is being made yet again.

We should be making ALL domestic violence unacceptable, not just the violence against women.
I have bought that up before about male victims, at the time it was some thing like only 1 in a 1000 that did get reported. and it is a case mostly where the female gets very violent and the male not hitting back in protecting him self, but just takes the violence.
[quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: Any campaign against domestic violence is a good thing. But what most campaigns ignore is the significant minority of male victims and female aggressors. Not as prevalent of course, but still certainly significant and undoubtedly even MORE under-reported than female victims. Even worse, when it IS reported then the police often laugh at the victim and tell them to 'man up' or similar. The 'grim toll' article says: "As part of the campaign stickers are being placed in men’s bathrooms in clubs and pubs in 85 venues across Hampshire. And police will target female victims for the first time by using social media to encourage victims to speak out." On that evidence, it looks like the same mistake is being made yet again. We should be making ALL domestic violence unacceptable, not just the violence against women.[/p][/quote]I have bought that up before about male victims, at the time it was some thing like only 1 in a 1000 that did get reported. and it is a case mostly where the female gets very violent and the male not hitting back in protecting him self, but just takes the violence. southy

5:28pm Mon 10 Dec 12

arthur dalyrimple says...

southy wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
Any campaign against domestic violence is a good thing.

But what most campaigns ignore is the significant minority of male victims and female aggressors. Not as prevalent of course, but still certainly significant and undoubtedly even MORE under-reported than female victims. Even worse, when it IS reported then the police often laugh at the victim and tell them to 'man up' or similar.

The 'grim toll' article says:

"As part of the campaign stickers are being placed in men’s bathrooms in clubs and pubs in 85 venues across Hampshire.

And police will target female victims for the first time by using social media to encourage victims to speak out."

On that evidence, it looks like the same mistake is being made yet again.

We should be making ALL domestic violence unacceptable, not just the violence against women.
I have bought that up before about male victims, at the time it was some thing like only 1 in a 1000 that did get reported. and it is a case mostly where the female gets very violent and the male not hitting back in protecting him self, but just takes the violence.
the phycho andrews , just released is a prime example of this .
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: Any campaign against domestic violence is a good thing. But what most campaigns ignore is the significant minority of male victims and female aggressors. Not as prevalent of course, but still certainly significant and undoubtedly even MORE under-reported than female victims. Even worse, when it IS reported then the police often laugh at the victim and tell them to 'man up' or similar. The 'grim toll' article says: "As part of the campaign stickers are being placed in men’s bathrooms in clubs and pubs in 85 venues across Hampshire. And police will target female victims for the first time by using social media to encourage victims to speak out." On that evidence, it looks like the same mistake is being made yet again. We should be making ALL domestic violence unacceptable, not just the violence against women.[/p][/quote]I have bought that up before about male victims, at the time it was some thing like only 1 in a 1000 that did get reported. and it is a case mostly where the female gets very violent and the male not hitting back in protecting him self, but just takes the violence.[/p][/quote]the phycho andrews , just released is a prime example of this . arthur dalyrimple

6:40pm Mon 10 Dec 12

Torchie1 says...

southy wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
Any campaign against domestic violence is a good thing.

But what most campaigns ignore is the significant minority of male victims and female aggressors. Not as prevalent of course, but still certainly significant and undoubtedly even MORE under-reported than female victims. Even worse, when it IS reported then the police often laugh at the victim and tell them to 'man up' or similar.

The 'grim toll' article says:

"As part of the campaign stickers are being placed in men’s bathrooms in clubs and pubs in 85 venues across Hampshire.

And police will target female victims for the first time by using social media to encourage victims to speak out."

On that evidence, it looks like the same mistake is being made yet again.

We should be making ALL domestic violence unacceptable, not just the violence against women.
I have bought that up before about male victims, at the time it was some thing like only 1 in a 1000 that did get reported. and it is a case mostly where the female gets very violent and the male not hitting back in protecting him self, but just takes the violence.
Only two days to wait until the 'General Strike' that will see the government overthrown and replaced by Tusc which will save the country using the 120 'Tillion' hidden away in tax free 'heavens' and not cutting a single penny in anyone's budget.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: Any campaign against domestic violence is a good thing. But what most campaigns ignore is the significant minority of male victims and female aggressors. Not as prevalent of course, but still certainly significant and undoubtedly even MORE under-reported than female victims. Even worse, when it IS reported then the police often laugh at the victim and tell them to 'man up' or similar. The 'grim toll' article says: "As part of the campaign stickers are being placed in men’s bathrooms in clubs and pubs in 85 venues across Hampshire. And police will target female victims for the first time by using social media to encourage victims to speak out." On that evidence, it looks like the same mistake is being made yet again. We should be making ALL domestic violence unacceptable, not just the violence against women.[/p][/quote]I have bought that up before about male victims, at the time it was some thing like only 1 in a 1000 that did get reported. and it is a case mostly where the female gets very violent and the male not hitting back in protecting him self, but just takes the violence.[/p][/quote]Only two days to wait until the 'General Strike' that will see the government overthrown and replaced by Tusc which will save the country using the 120 'Tillion' hidden away in tax free 'heavens' and not cutting a single penny in anyone's budget. Torchie1

7:47pm Mon 10 Dec 12

Sovietobserver says...

southy wrote:
Big Mac wrote:
There's a first. Someone considers Southy correct. Whatever next?
Thats because the trolls seem to be lacking today
Southy was born with his vast fountain of knowledge and probably performed his own Caesarian from the inside.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Big Mac[/bold] wrote: There's a first. Someone considers Southy correct. Whatever next?[/p][/quote]Thats because the trolls seem to be lacking today[/p][/quote]Southy was born with his vast fountain of knowledge and probably performed his own Caesarian from the inside. Sovietobserver

8:48pm Mon 10 Dec 12

southy says...

Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
Any campaign against domestic violence is a good thing.

But what most campaigns ignore is the significant minority of male victims and female aggressors. Not as prevalent of course, but still certainly significant and undoubtedly even MORE under-reported than female victims. Even worse, when it IS reported then the police often laugh at the victim and tell them to 'man up' or similar.

The 'grim toll' article says:

"As part of the campaign stickers are being placed in men’s bathrooms in clubs and pubs in 85 venues across Hampshire.

And police will target female victims for the first time by using social media to encourage victims to speak out."

On that evidence, it looks like the same mistake is being made yet again.

We should be making ALL domestic violence unacceptable, not just the violence against women.
I have bought that up before about male victims, at the time it was some thing like only 1 in a 1000 that did get reported. and it is a case mostly where the female gets very violent and the male not hitting back in protecting him self, but just takes the violence.
Only two days to wait until the 'General Strike' that will see the government overthrown and replaced by Tusc which will save the country using the 120 'Tillion' hidden away in tax free 'heavens' and not cutting a single penny in anyone's budget.
Touchie I have not giving a date on a general strike yet, the date that was giving was for tomorrow for the TUC meeting where the NSSN will be lobbing the Board of the TUC to name a date for the general strike, and when the general strike happens this government will fold under, and will end up calling an early election, its been the Board of the TUC that have been slowing things up and dragging there heels, they did not even want the mass TUC demo and rally in London it was the groups on the fringe that force the TUC to have one.
Its to late now to get that billions that have been lost in none tax intrest payment thats been going on since the mid 1980's, all that can be done now is to put back the finence restrictions so the money do not leave the uk into private accounts and will remain in the uk and where the interest can be tax, like it is for every one who do not have enough money to open a off shore tax free bank account.
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: Any campaign against domestic violence is a good thing. But what most campaigns ignore is the significant minority of male victims and female aggressors. Not as prevalent of course, but still certainly significant and undoubtedly even MORE under-reported than female victims. Even worse, when it IS reported then the police often laugh at the victim and tell them to 'man up' or similar. The 'grim toll' article says: "As part of the campaign stickers are being placed in men’s bathrooms in clubs and pubs in 85 venues across Hampshire. And police will target female victims for the first time by using social media to encourage victims to speak out." On that evidence, it looks like the same mistake is being made yet again. We should be making ALL domestic violence unacceptable, not just the violence against women.[/p][/quote]I have bought that up before about male victims, at the time it was some thing like only 1 in a 1000 that did get reported. and it is a case mostly where the female gets very violent and the male not hitting back in protecting him self, but just takes the violence.[/p][/quote]Only two days to wait until the 'General Strike' that will see the government overthrown and replaced by Tusc which will save the country using the 120 'Tillion' hidden away in tax free 'heavens' and not cutting a single penny in anyone's budget.[/p][/quote]Touchie I have not giving a date on a general strike yet, the date that was giving was for tomorrow for the TUC meeting where the NSSN will be lobbing the Board of the TUC to name a date for the general strike, and when the general strike happens this government will fold under, and will end up calling an early election, its been the Board of the TUC that have been slowing things up and dragging there heels, they did not even want the mass TUC demo and rally in London it was the groups on the fringe that force the TUC to have one. Its to late now to get that billions that have been lost in none tax intrest payment thats been going on since the mid 1980's, all that can be done now is to put back the finence restrictions so the money do not leave the uk into private accounts and will remain in the uk and where the interest can be tax, like it is for every one who do not have enough money to open a off shore tax free bank account. southy

1:33am Tue 11 Dec 12

Torchie1 says...

southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
Any campaign against domestic violence is a good thing.

But what most campaigns ignore is the significant minority of male victims and female aggressors. Not as prevalent of course, but still certainly significant and undoubtedly even MORE under-reported than female victims. Even worse, when it IS reported then the police often laugh at the victim and tell them to 'man up' or similar.

The 'grim toll' article says:

"As part of the campaign stickers are being placed in men’s bathrooms in clubs and pubs in 85 venues across Hampshire.

And police will target female victims for the first time by using social media to encourage victims to speak out."

On that evidence, it looks like the same mistake is being made yet again.

We should be making ALL domestic violence unacceptable, not just the violence against women.
I have bought that up before about male victims, at the time it was some thing like only 1 in a 1000 that did get reported. and it is a case mostly where the female gets very violent and the male not hitting back in protecting him self, but just takes the violence.
Only two days to wait until the 'General Strike' that will see the government overthrown and replaced by Tusc which will save the country using the 120 'Tillion' hidden away in tax free 'heavens' and not cutting a single penny in anyone's budget.
Touchie I have not giving a date on a general strike yet, the date that was giving was for tomorrow for the TUC meeting where the NSSN will be lobbing the Board of the TUC to name a date for the general strike, and when the general strike happens this government will fold under, and will end up calling an early election, its been the Board of the TUC that have been slowing things up and dragging there heels, they did not even want the mass TUC demo and rally in London it was the groups on the fringe that force the TUC to have one.
Its to late now to get that billions that have been lost in none tax intrest payment thats been going on since the mid 1980's, all that can be done now is to put back the finence restrictions so the money do not leave the uk into private accounts and will remain in the uk and where the interest can be tax, like it is for every one who do not have enough money to open a off shore tax free bank account.
The threat of unelected bodies dictating to the elected government is the best way to show up the spectre of socialism for what it is. Keep up the good work.
[quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: Any campaign against domestic violence is a good thing. But what most campaigns ignore is the significant minority of male victims and female aggressors. Not as prevalent of course, but still certainly significant and undoubtedly even MORE under-reported than female victims. Even worse, when it IS reported then the police often laugh at the victim and tell them to 'man up' or similar. The 'grim toll' article says: "As part of the campaign stickers are being placed in men’s bathrooms in clubs and pubs in 85 venues across Hampshire. And police will target female victims for the first time by using social media to encourage victims to speak out." On that evidence, it looks like the same mistake is being made yet again. We should be making ALL domestic violence unacceptable, not just the violence against women.[/p][/quote]I have bought that up before about male victims, at the time it was some thing like only 1 in a 1000 that did get reported. and it is a case mostly where the female gets very violent and the male not hitting back in protecting him self, but just takes the violence.[/p][/quote]Only two days to wait until the 'General Strike' that will see the government overthrown and replaced by Tusc which will save the country using the 120 'Tillion' hidden away in tax free 'heavens' and not cutting a single penny in anyone's budget.[/p][/quote]Touchie I have not giving a date on a general strike yet, the date that was giving was for tomorrow for the TUC meeting where the NSSN will be lobbing the Board of the TUC to name a date for the general strike, and when the general strike happens this government will fold under, and will end up calling an early election, its been the Board of the TUC that have been slowing things up and dragging there heels, they did not even want the mass TUC demo and rally in London it was the groups on the fringe that force the TUC to have one. Its to late now to get that billions that have been lost in none tax intrest payment thats been going on since the mid 1980's, all that can be done now is to put back the finence restrictions so the money do not leave the uk into private accounts and will remain in the uk and where the interest can be tax, like it is for every one who do not have enough money to open a off shore tax free bank account.[/p][/quote]The threat of unelected bodies dictating to the elected government is the best way to show up the spectre of socialism for what it is. Keep up the good work. Torchie1

2:57am Tue 11 Dec 12

andysaints007 says...

Down to Earth & Sensible wrote:
Remember though that an awful lot of women like the "Bad Boys" as they feel safe and secure with a guy that's always threatening to "beat up" someone;which is fine; until; that aggression turns upon them - then they whinge. Can't have it both ways girls! My ex wife said to me that I obviously didn't love her as I had not blackened any of her eyes over the 10 years we were together !! - and that if I really had loved her i would have broken a few of her bones also. Absolutely 100% true;so don't tell me about "Domestic Violence" - most of it is self inflicted through bad choices of partner or "liking" a partner to be aggressive natured which they find very very attractive.until it backfires.
You complete and utter pr*ick
[quote][p][bold]Down to Earth & Sensible[/bold] wrote: Remember though that an awful lot of women like the "Bad Boys" as they feel safe and secure with a guy that's always threatening to "beat up" someone;which is fine; until; that aggression turns upon them - then they whinge. Can't have it both ways girls! My ex wife said to me that I obviously didn't love her as I had not blackened any of her eyes over the 10 years we were together !! - and that if I really had loved her i would have broken a few of her bones also. Absolutely 100% true;so don't tell me about "Domestic Violence" - most of it is self inflicted through bad choices of partner or "liking" a partner to be aggressive natured which they find very very attractive.until it backfires.[/p][/quote]You complete and utter pr*ick andysaints007

11:04am Tue 11 Dec 12

Raxx says...

andysaints007 wrote:
Down to Earth & Sensible wrote:
Remember though that an awful lot of women like the "Bad Boys" as they feel safe and secure with a guy that's always threatening to "beat up" someone;which is fine; until; that aggression turns upon them - then they whinge. Can't have it both ways girls! My ex wife said to me that I obviously didn't love her as I had not blackened any of her eyes over the 10 years we were together !! - and that if I really had loved her i would have broken a few of her bones also. Absolutely 100% true;so don't tell me about "Domestic Violence" - most of it is self inflicted through bad choices of partner or "liking" a partner to be aggressive natured which they find very very attractive.until it backfires.
You complete and utter pr*ick
Quite.
[quote][p][bold]andysaints007[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Down to Earth & Sensible[/bold] wrote: Remember though that an awful lot of women like the "Bad Boys" as they feel safe and secure with a guy that's always threatening to "beat up" someone;which is fine; until; that aggression turns upon them - then they whinge. Can't have it both ways girls! My ex wife said to me that I obviously didn't love her as I had not blackened any of her eyes over the 10 years we were together !! - and that if I really had loved her i would have broken a few of her bones also. Absolutely 100% true;so don't tell me about "Domestic Violence" - most of it is self inflicted through bad choices of partner or "liking" a partner to be aggressive natured which they find very very attractive.until it backfires.[/p][/quote]You complete and utter pr*ick[/p][/quote]Quite. Raxx

2:03pm Tue 11 Dec 12

Shoong says...

Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
Any campaign against domestic violence is a good thing.

But what most campaigns ignore is the significant minority of male victims and female aggressors. Not as prevalent of course, but still certainly significant and undoubtedly even MORE under-reported than female victims. Even worse, when it IS reported then the police often laugh at the victim and tell them to 'man up' or similar.

The 'grim toll' article says:

"As part of the campaign stickers are being placed in men’s bathrooms in clubs and pubs in 85 venues across Hampshire.

And police will target female victims for the first time by using social media to encourage victims to speak out."

On that evidence, it looks like the same mistake is being made yet again.

We should be making ALL domestic violence unacceptable, not just the violence against women.
I have bought that up before about male victims, at the time it was some thing like only 1 in a 1000 that did get reported. and it is a case mostly where the female gets very violent and the male not hitting back in protecting him self, but just takes the violence.
Only two days to wait until the 'General Strike' that will see the government overthrown and replaced by Tusc which will save the country using the 120 'Tillion' hidden away in tax free 'heavens' and not cutting a single penny in anyone's budget.
If memory serves Peter said that the government would suffer a vote of no confidence and would be gone by the end of the year.

Let the back tracking commence.
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: Any campaign against domestic violence is a good thing. But what most campaigns ignore is the significant minority of male victims and female aggressors. Not as prevalent of course, but still certainly significant and undoubtedly even MORE under-reported than female victims. Even worse, when it IS reported then the police often laugh at the victim and tell them to 'man up' or similar. The 'grim toll' article says: "As part of the campaign stickers are being placed in men’s bathrooms in clubs and pubs in 85 venues across Hampshire. And police will target female victims for the first time by using social media to encourage victims to speak out." On that evidence, it looks like the same mistake is being made yet again. We should be making ALL domestic violence unacceptable, not just the violence against women.[/p][/quote]I have bought that up before about male victims, at the time it was some thing like only 1 in a 1000 that did get reported. and it is a case mostly where the female gets very violent and the male not hitting back in protecting him self, but just takes the violence.[/p][/quote]Only two days to wait until the 'General Strike' that will see the government overthrown and replaced by Tusc which will save the country using the 120 'Tillion' hidden away in tax free 'heavens' and not cutting a single penny in anyone's budget.[/p][/quote]If memory serves Peter said that the government would suffer a vote of no confidence and would be gone by the end of the year. Let the back tracking commence. Shoong

2:14pm Tue 11 Dec 12

Subject48 says...

I duno, although there is no excuse for unprovoked violence in a non controlled setting, there is some truth to what the man said. sometimes it can be choice of partner im sorry to say, id be intersted to know how many of these reports are re-occurnces.

surely after the first time someone hits you, you wouldint want to see them ever again and you would file for an injunction.
I duno, although there is no excuse for unprovoked violence in a non controlled setting, there is some truth to what the man said. sometimes it can be choice of partner im sorry to say, id be intersted to know how many of these reports are re-occurnces. surely after the first time someone hits you, you wouldint want to see them ever again and you would file for an injunction. Subject48

2:44pm Tue 11 Dec 12

southy says...

Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
Any campaign against domestic violence is a good thing.

But what most campaigns ignore is the significant minority of male victims and female aggressors. Not as prevalent of course, but still certainly significant and undoubtedly even MORE under-reported than female victims. Even worse, when it IS reported then the police often laugh at the victim and tell them to 'man up' or similar.

The 'grim toll' article says:

"As part of the campaign stickers are being placed in men’s bathrooms in clubs and pubs in 85 venues across Hampshire.

And police will target female victims for the first time by using social media to encourage victims to speak out."

On that evidence, it looks like the same mistake is being made yet again.

We should be making ALL domestic violence unacceptable, not just the violence against women.
I have bought that up before about male victims, at the time it was some thing like only 1 in a 1000 that did get reported. and it is a case mostly where the female gets very violent and the male not hitting back in protecting him self, but just takes the violence.
Only two days to wait until the 'General Strike' that will see the government overthrown and replaced by Tusc which will save the country using the 120 'Tillion' hidden away in tax free 'heavens' and not cutting a single penny in anyone's budget.
Touchie I have not giving a date on a general strike yet, the date that was giving was for tomorrow for the TUC meeting where the NSSN will be lobbing the Board of the TUC to name a date for the general strike, and when the general strike happens this government will fold under, and will end up calling an early election, its been the Board of the TUC that have been slowing things up and dragging there heels, they did not even want the mass TUC demo and rally in London it was the groups on the fringe that force the TUC to have one.
Its to late now to get that billions that have been lost in none tax intrest payment thats been going on since the mid 1980's, all that can be done now is to put back the finence restrictions so the money do not leave the uk into private accounts and will remain in the uk and where the interest can be tax, like it is for every one who do not have enough money to open a off shore tax free bank account.
The threat of unelected bodies dictating to the elected government is the best way to show up the spectre of socialism for what it is. Keep up the good work.
Those unelected bodys are the ones that are the majority who some or most put this government into power, and if a government do not do the right thing for the majority, then its the majority that as to take action and remove that government body out of office.

The people should not fear its Government, but the Government should fear its people.

The right of Democratic society is the right to bring down a government and make changes to elect a new government at any time, so they are not dictating they are excising the right for the majority and not the few.
[quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: Any campaign against domestic violence is a good thing. But what most campaigns ignore is the significant minority of male victims and female aggressors. Not as prevalent of course, but still certainly significant and undoubtedly even MORE under-reported than female victims. Even worse, when it IS reported then the police often laugh at the victim and tell them to 'man up' or similar. The 'grim toll' article says: "As part of the campaign stickers are being placed in men’s bathrooms in clubs and pubs in 85 venues across Hampshire. And police will target female victims for the first time by using social media to encourage victims to speak out." On that evidence, it looks like the same mistake is being made yet again. We should be making ALL domestic violence unacceptable, not just the violence against women.[/p][/quote]I have bought that up before about male victims, at the time it was some thing like only 1 in a 1000 that did get reported. and it is a case mostly where the female gets very violent and the male not hitting back in protecting him self, but just takes the violence.[/p][/quote]Only two days to wait until the 'General Strike' that will see the government overthrown and replaced by Tusc which will save the country using the 120 'Tillion' hidden away in tax free 'heavens' and not cutting a single penny in anyone's budget.[/p][/quote]Touchie I have not giving a date on a general strike yet, the date that was giving was for tomorrow for the TUC meeting where the NSSN will be lobbing the Board of the TUC to name a date for the general strike, and when the general strike happens this government will fold under, and will end up calling an early election, its been the Board of the TUC that have been slowing things up and dragging there heels, they did not even want the mass TUC demo and rally in London it was the groups on the fringe that force the TUC to have one. Its to late now to get that billions that have been lost in none tax intrest payment thats been going on since the mid 1980's, all that can be done now is to put back the finence restrictions so the money do not leave the uk into private accounts and will remain in the uk and where the interest can be tax, like it is for every one who do not have enough money to open a off shore tax free bank account.[/p][/quote]The threat of unelected bodies dictating to the elected government is the best way to show up the spectre of socialism for what it is. Keep up the good work.[/p][/quote]Those unelected bodys are the ones that are the majority who some or most put this government into power, and if a government do not do the right thing for the majority, then its the majority that as to take action and remove that government body out of office. The people should not fear its Government, but the Government should fear its people. The right of Democratic society is the right to bring down a government and make changes to elect a new government at any time, so they are not dictating they are excising the right for the majority and not the few. southy

2:50pm Tue 11 Dec 12

southy says...

Shoong wrote:
Torchie1 wrote:
southy wrote:
cantthinkofone wrote:
Any campaign against domestic violence is a good thing.

But what most campaigns ignore is the significant minority of male victims and female aggressors. Not as prevalent of course, but still certainly significant and undoubtedly even MORE under-reported than female victims. Even worse, when it IS reported then the police often laugh at the victim and tell them to 'man up' or similar.

The 'grim toll' article says:

"As part of the campaign stickers are being placed in men’s bathrooms in clubs and pubs in 85 venues across Hampshire.

And police will target female victims for the first time by using social media to encourage victims to speak out."

On that evidence, it looks like the same mistake is being made yet again.

We should be making ALL domestic violence unacceptable, not just the violence against women.
I have bought that up before about male victims, at the time it was some thing like only 1 in a 1000 that did get reported. and it is a case mostly where the female gets very violent and the male not hitting back in protecting him self, but just takes the violence.
Only two days to wait until the 'General Strike' that will see the government overthrown and replaced by Tusc which will save the country using the 120 'Tillion' hidden away in tax free 'heavens' and not cutting a single penny in anyone's budget.
If memory serves Peter said that the government would suffer a vote of no confidence and would be gone by the end of the year.

Let the back tracking commence.
No backing it would of happen by now, and you would of seen a general election called for early in the new year, But the TUC board are dragging there heels and what is happening now should off happened soon after the first march and demo rally in London.
You have a weaker government of the 1974 Tory Government under Ted Heath, and this government broke all records on how short term they was in office. Where the people of this country turned against them.
[quote][p][bold]Shoong[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Torchie1[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]southy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cantthinkofone[/bold] wrote: Any campaign against domestic violence is a good thing. But what most campaigns ignore is the significant minority of male victims and female aggressors. Not as prevalent of course, but still certainly significant and undoubtedly even MORE under-reported than female victims. Even worse, when it IS reported then the police often laugh at the victim and tell them to 'man up' or similar. The 'grim toll' article says: "As part of the campaign stickers are being placed in men’s bathrooms in clubs and pubs in 85 venues across Hampshire. And police will target female victims for the first time by using social media to encourage victims to speak out." On that evidence, it looks like the same mistake is being made yet again. We should be making ALL domestic violence unacceptable, not just the violence against women.[/p][/quote]I have bought that up before about male victims, at the time it was some thing like only 1 in a 1000 that did get reported. and it is a case mostly where the female gets very violent and the male not hitting back in protecting him self, but just takes the violence.[/p][/quote]Only two days to wait until the 'General Strike' that will see the government overthrown and replaced by Tusc which will save the country using the 120 'Tillion' hidden away in tax free 'heavens' and not cutting a single penny in anyone's budget.[/p][/quote]If memory serves Peter said that the government would suffer a vote of no confidence and would be gone by the end of the year. Let the back tracking commence.[/p][/quote]No backing it would of happen by now, and you would of seen a general election called for early in the new year, But the TUC board are dragging there heels and what is happening now should off happened soon after the first march and demo rally in London. You have a weaker government of the 1974 Tory Government under Ted Heath, and this government broke all records on how short term they was in office. Where the people of this country turned against them. southy

4:46pm Wed 12 Dec 12

cantthinkofone says...

What on earth has any of that got to do with domestic abuse? Grow up the pair of you, and show a bit of respect to an important issue.
What on earth has any of that got to do with domestic abuse? Grow up the pair of you, and show a bit of respect to an important issue. cantthinkofone

3:25pm Thu 13 Dec 12

orderoutofchaos says...

Subject48 wrote:
I duno, although there is no excuse for unprovoked violence in a non controlled setting, there is some truth to what the man said. sometimes it can be choice of partner im sorry to say, id be intersted to know how many of these reports are re-occurnces. surely after the first time someone hits you, you wouldint want to see them ever again and you would file for an injunction.
There is no excuse for violence full stop, in a non or controlled setting- what on earth are you on about?

You both clearly have no idea what victims of domestic abuse go through. Its not as simple as " the first time you are hit- leave" Often perps of domestic violence have run down self confidence to such a level that they cannot leave, or think that they have nobody to turn to. Why do you think so many stay in those relationships? because its fun to be beaten/raped etc?

Of course not.

No man or woman should be subjected to any violence EVER by their spouce. Its not a debate- there are no circumstances when it is EVER exceptable.
[quote][p][bold]Subject48[/bold] wrote: I duno, although there is no excuse for unprovoked violence in a non controlled setting, there is some truth to what the man said. sometimes it can be choice of partner im sorry to say, id be intersted to know how many of these reports are re-occurnces. surely after the first time someone hits you, you wouldint want to see them ever again and you would file for an injunction.[/p][/quote]There is no excuse for violence full stop, in a non or controlled setting- what on earth are you on about? You both clearly have no idea what victims of domestic abuse go through. Its not as simple as " the first time you are hit- leave" Often perps of domestic violence have run down self confidence to such a level that they cannot leave, or think that they have nobody to turn to. Why do you think so many stay in those relationships? because its fun to be beaten/raped etc? Of course not. No man or woman should be subjected to any violence EVER by their spouce. Its not a debate- there are no circumstances when it is EVER exceptable. orderoutofchaos

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