Rush hour terror as woman is punched into path of traffic

Woman punched into path of rush hour traffic

Woman punched into path of rush hour traffic

First published in News

A YOUNG woman was left scrambling to safety on her hands and knees in the middle of rush-hour traffic after a hooded stranger punched her into the road.

Blinded by headlights, she found herself lying in the road with cars quickly heading towards her.

The frightening ordeal started 30 minutes earlier when she was getting on a bus outside the Asda supermarket in Chandler’s Ford.

As she stood in the queue the man in front of her was refusing to pay for a ticket, arguing with the driver of the No 1 Bluestar bus from Winchester.

Eager to get home to get ready for a surprise meal she had organised for her partner’s birthday and to help the bus driver, she intervened and politely asked the man to get off the bus if he wasn’t going to pay as he was holding up everyone in the queue.

As he still refused to get off, the bus driver allowed her and the other passengers on and she brushed passed the man as she made her way to the top deck.

Moments later he suddenly appeared and sat behind her, staring at her throughout the 20-minute journey into Southampton city centre.

She nervously got off in Civic Centre Road but to her horror the man followed her.

Scared, she rushed into Maynards newsagents and told the shop worker that she was being followed.

After five minutes the man couldn’t be seen so she left and headed towards Above Bar Street, but within seconds he jumped out of the darkness and grabbed her, shouting at her for pushing past him on the bus.

Apologising, the woman tried to get away but the man punched her, causing her to fall and hit her head on the road.

It was only thanks to the help of a passer-by that she was able to get back to the pavement before she was hit by oncoming traffic.

The woman has suffered a suspected broken nose, leaving her with two black eyes, a bang to the back of the head and pain in her arms and shoulders.

Police are appealing for witnesses to the attack, at 4.30pm on January 8, to come forward.

  • The attacker is black, aged 20-25, 5ft 10in and slim with with a wide nose.

He was dressed in black, wearing a hoodie with a red zip with the hood up.

  • Anyone with information can contact PC James Lindley at Southampton Central police station on 101.

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9:14am Mon 14 Jan 13

10 Minute Man says...

Bus CCTV ?

Well done to her for standing up to this loser.
Bus CCTV ? Well done to her for standing up to this loser. 10 Minute Man
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9:15am Mon 14 Jan 13

huckit P says...

The bus would have CCTV so lets have a photo.
The bus would have CCTV so lets have a photo. huckit P
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9:18am Mon 14 Jan 13

Taskforce 141 says...

What absolute scum.

This is when Karma needs to prove its existence!
What absolute scum. This is when Karma needs to prove its existence! Taskforce 141
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9:26am Mon 14 Jan 13

Big Mac says...

Put an 'incident' sign up at both bus stops to help jog passengers' memories plus Above Bar must have numerous cctv's.
Put an 'incident' sign up at both bus stops to help jog passengers' memories plus Above Bar must have numerous cctv's. Big Mac
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9:32am Mon 14 Jan 13

userds5050 says...

I had a driver refuse to let me on because he'd let me on because "he'd never seen my pass before". After a lengthy heated conversation, a radio back to base I was allowed on as the pass was valid. Now if some impatient woman was telling me to get off when I had just as much right to travel as her I wouldn't be happy. It's like the guy who threw the kid off the train in Scotland when he was sold the wrong ticket. Lesson here: Don't be a vigilante.
I had a driver refuse to let me on because he'd let me on because "he'd never seen my pass before". After a lengthy heated conversation, a radio back to base I was allowed on as the pass was valid. Now if some impatient woman was telling me to get off when I had just as much right to travel as her I wouldn't be happy. It's like the guy who threw the kid off the train in Scotland when he was sold the wrong ticket. Lesson here: Don't be a vigilante. userds5050
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9:32am Mon 14 Jan 13

MGRA says...

WHY did she not call the police once at Maynards ??
WHY did she not call the police once at Maynards ?? MGRA
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9:46am Mon 14 Jan 13

mrblunt says...

She didn't call the police because she didn't want to wait in Maynards for two hours for them to arrive !!
She didn't call the police because she didn't want to wait in Maynards for two hours for them to arrive !! mrblunt
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9:49am Mon 14 Jan 13

userds5050 says...

mrblunt wrote:
She didn't call the police because she didn't want to wait in Maynards for two hours for them to arrive !!
What's wrong with Maynards?
[quote][p][bold]mrblunt[/bold] wrote: She didn't call the police because she didn't want to wait in Maynards for two hours for them to arrive !![/p][/quote]What's wrong with Maynards? userds5050
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10:07am Mon 14 Jan 13

Sovietobserver says...

userds5050 wrote:
mrblunt wrote:
She didn't call the police because she didn't want to wait in Maynards for two hours for them to arrive !!
What's wrong with Maynards?
userds5050, read the article FFS " she was eager to get home to get ready for a surprise meal she was organising for her partner's birthday".
[quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mrblunt[/bold] wrote: She didn't call the police because she didn't want to wait in Maynards for two hours for them to arrive !![/p][/quote]What's wrong with Maynards?[/p][/quote]userds5050, read the article FFS " she was eager to get home to get ready for a surprise meal she was organising for her partner's birthday". Sovietobserver
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10:15am Mon 14 Jan 13

freefinker says...

Sovietobserver wrote:
userds5050 wrote:
mrblunt wrote:
She didn't call the police because she didn't want to wait in Maynards for two hours for them to arrive !!
What's wrong with Maynards?
userds5050, read the article FFS " she was eager to get home to get ready for a surprise meal she was organising for her partner's birthday".
.. I think you are missing the joke.
[quote][p][bold]Sovietobserver[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mrblunt[/bold] wrote: She didn't call the police because she didn't want to wait in Maynards for two hours for them to arrive !![/p][/quote]What's wrong with Maynards?[/p][/quote]userds5050, read the article FFS " she was eager to get home to get ready for a surprise meal she was organising for her partner's birthday".[/p][/quote].. I think you are missing the joke. freefinker
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10:27am Mon 14 Jan 13

Sovietobserver says...

freefinker wrote:
Sovietobserver wrote:
userds5050 wrote:
mrblunt wrote:
She didn't call the police because she didn't want to wait in Maynards for two hours for them to arrive !!
What's wrong with Maynards?
userds5050, read the article FFS " she was eager to get home to get ready for a surprise meal she was organising for her partner's birthday".
.. I think you are missing the joke.
I was being predetermined specially not to accept it as a joke , because of the serious nature of the incident, and also the victim should be respected out of sympathy, which is not being demonstrated by others.
[quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sovietobserver[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mrblunt[/bold] wrote: She didn't call the police because she didn't want to wait in Maynards for two hours for them to arrive !![/p][/quote]What's wrong with Maynards?[/p][/quote]userds5050, read the article FFS " she was eager to get home to get ready for a surprise meal she was organising for her partner's birthday".[/p][/quote].. I think you are missing the joke.[/p][/quote]I was being predetermined specially not to accept it as a joke , because of the serious nature of the incident, and also the victim should be respected out of sympathy, which is not being demonstrated by others. Sovietobserver
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10:40am Mon 14 Jan 13

soton1980 says...

It's disgusting that something like this can happen for simply 'brushing past ' someone. If she had been killed by oncoming traffic then this individual would currently be facing a murder charge.
It's disgusting that something like this can happen for simply 'brushing past ' someone. If she had been killed by oncoming traffic then this individual would currently be facing a murder charge. soton1980
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10:51am Mon 14 Jan 13

MGRA says...

Sovietobserver wrote:
freefinker wrote:
Sovietobserver wrote:
userds5050 wrote:
mrblunt wrote:
She didn't call the police because she didn't want to wait in Maynards for two hours for them to arrive !!
What's wrong with Maynards?
userds5050, read the article FFS " she was eager to get home to get ready for a surprise meal she was organising for her partner's birthday".
.. I think you are missing the joke.
I was being predetermined specially not to accept it as a joke , because of the serious nature of the incident, and also the victim should be respected out of sympathy, which is not being demonstrated by others.
I was making a serious point. Being followed like that wa serious cause for calling the police.... More to the point the shop assistant must have been stupid beyond reason for not calling the police immediately....
[quote][p][bold]Sovietobserver[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]freefinker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sovietobserver[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]mrblunt[/bold] wrote: She didn't call the police because she didn't want to wait in Maynards for two hours for them to arrive !![/p][/quote]What's wrong with Maynards?[/p][/quote]userds5050, read the article FFS " she was eager to get home to get ready for a surprise meal she was organising for her partner's birthday".[/p][/quote].. I think you are missing the joke.[/p][/quote]I was being predetermined specially not to accept it as a joke , because of the serious nature of the incident, and also the victim should be respected out of sympathy, which is not being demonstrated by others.[/p][/quote]I was making a serious point. Being followed like that wa serious cause for calling the police.... More to the point the shop assistant must have been stupid beyond reason for not calling the police immediately.... MGRA
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11:06am Mon 14 Jan 13

voiceof thepeople says...

..so the report says the attacker was black, with a wide nose....curly black hair ?
..so the report says the attacker was black, with a wide nose....curly black hair ? voiceof thepeople
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11:32am Mon 14 Jan 13

For pity sake says...

Userds5050 said:
"I had a driver refuse to let me on because he'd let me on because ..."
Pardon?
Userds5050 said: "I had a driver refuse to let me on because he'd let me on because ..." Pardon? For pity sake
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11:51am Mon 14 Jan 13

SotonGreen says...

Call me cynical but any police report were someone is claiming an attack was unprovoked and that they were at all times polite and respectful to the other party makes me immediately suspect they were rude and aggressive.
Call me cynical but any police report were someone is claiming an attack was unprovoked and that they were at all times polite and respectful to the other party makes me immediately suspect they were rude and aggressive. SotonGreen
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12:06pm Mon 14 Jan 13

userds5050 says...

SotonGreen wrote:
Call me cynical but any police report were someone is claiming an attack was unprovoked and that they were at all times polite and respectful to the other party makes me immediately suspect they were rude and aggressive.
For sure. What's the driver got to say in all this? Would be very surprised if he just let the guy on for free just because he was holding up the other passengers. Something smells fishy and it's not her partner's surprise dinner.
[quote][p][bold]SotonGreen[/bold] wrote: Call me cynical but any police report were someone is claiming an attack was unprovoked and that they were at all times polite and respectful to the other party makes me immediately suspect they were rude and aggressive.[/p][/quote]For sure. What's the driver got to say in all this? Would be very surprised if he just let the guy on for free just because he was holding up the other passengers. Something smells fishy and it's not her partner's surprise dinner. userds5050
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12:39pm Mon 14 Jan 13

meechy says...

Come on Echo , do some homework please. How come this guy was eventually let onto the bus?
Come on Echo , do some homework please. How come this guy was eventually let onto the bus? meechy
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1:19pm Mon 14 Jan 13

ilogik_23 says...

userds5050 wrote:
I had a driver refuse to let me on because he'd let me on because "he'd never seen my pass before". After a lengthy heated conversation, a radio back to base I was allowed on as the pass was valid. Now if some impatient woman was telling me to get off when I had just as much right to travel as her I wouldn't be happy. It's like the guy who threw the kid off the train in Scotland when he was sold the wrong ticket. Lesson here: Don't be a vigilante.
Erm...Anybody miss this posted by a complete moron?? The girl had every right to intervene and ask him to move off, out of the way, and yes granted he has the right to say back off it's my business. Think you might find he went off the scale in following her, punching her in the face and possibly breaking her nose! Again on here, alsoran morons make jokes of it, but I wonder if the girl was someone they knew they wouldn't even squeak a peep! Some people need to grow up a little (I and possibly) the majority of adult society think..
[quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: I had a driver refuse to let me on because he'd let me on because "he'd never seen my pass before". After a lengthy heated conversation, a radio back to base I was allowed on as the pass was valid. Now if some impatient woman was telling me to get off when I had just as much right to travel as her I wouldn't be happy. It's like the guy who threw the kid off the train in Scotland when he was sold the wrong ticket. Lesson here: Don't be a vigilante.[/p][/quote]Erm...Anybody miss this posted by a complete moron?? The girl had every right to intervene and ask him to move off, out of the way, and yes granted he has the right to say back off it's my business. Think you might find he went off the scale in following her, punching her in the face and possibly breaking her nose! Again on here, alsoran morons make jokes of it, but I wonder if the girl was someone they knew they wouldn't even squeak a peep! Some people need to grow up a little (I and possibly) the majority of adult society think.. ilogik_23
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2:15pm Mon 14 Jan 13

userds5050 says...

ilogik_23 wrote:
userds5050 wrote:
I had a driver refuse to let me on because he'd let me on because "he'd never seen my pass before". After a lengthy heated conversation, a radio back to base I was allowed on as the pass was valid. Now if some impatient woman was telling me to get off when I had just as much right to travel as her I wouldn't be happy. It's like the guy who threw the kid off the train in Scotland when he was sold the wrong ticket. Lesson here: Don't be a vigilante.
Erm...Anybody miss this posted by a complete moron?? The girl had every right to intervene and ask him to move off, out of the way, and yes granted he has the right to say back off it's my business. Think you might find he went off the scale in following her, punching her in the face and possibly breaking her nose! Again on here, alsoran morons make jokes of it, but I wonder if the girl was someone they knew they wouldn't even squeak a peep! Some people need to grow up a little (I and possibly) the majority of adult society think..
Did I say I didn't think he went off the scale? Most of adult society learn to wait in line and let the driver deal with it. She's already said she was impatient because she was preparing her partner's dinner. Besides I'm not going to be lectured on adult behavior by someone who resorts to insults at the first opportunity.
[quote][p][bold]ilogik_23[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: I had a driver refuse to let me on because he'd let me on because "he'd never seen my pass before". After a lengthy heated conversation, a radio back to base I was allowed on as the pass was valid. Now if some impatient woman was telling me to get off when I had just as much right to travel as her I wouldn't be happy. It's like the guy who threw the kid off the train in Scotland when he was sold the wrong ticket. Lesson here: Don't be a vigilante.[/p][/quote]Erm...Anybody miss this posted by a complete moron?? The girl had every right to intervene and ask him to move off, out of the way, and yes granted he has the right to say back off it's my business. Think you might find he went off the scale in following her, punching her in the face and possibly breaking her nose! Again on here, alsoran morons make jokes of it, but I wonder if the girl was someone they knew they wouldn't even squeak a peep! Some people need to grow up a little (I and possibly) the majority of adult society think..[/p][/quote]Did I say I didn't think he went off the scale? Most of adult society learn to wait in line and let the driver deal with it. She's already said she was impatient because she was preparing her partner's dinner. Besides I'm not going to be lectured on adult behavior by someone who resorts to insults at the first opportunity. userds5050
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2:23pm Mon 14 Jan 13

S!monOn says...

userds5050 wrote:
I had a driver refuse to let me on because he'd let me on because "he'd never seen my pass before". After a lengthy heated conversation, a radio back to base I was allowed on as the pass was valid. Now if some impatient woman was telling me to get off when I had just as much right to travel as her I wouldn't be happy. It's like the guy who threw the kid off the train in Scotland when he was sold the wrong ticket. Lesson here: Don't be a vigilante.
Lesson here: You are a complete moron.
[quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: I had a driver refuse to let me on because he'd let me on because "he'd never seen my pass before". After a lengthy heated conversation, a radio back to base I was allowed on as the pass was valid. Now if some impatient woman was telling me to get off when I had just as much right to travel as her I wouldn't be happy. It's like the guy who threw the kid off the train in Scotland when he was sold the wrong ticket. Lesson here: Don't be a vigilante.[/p][/quote]Lesson here: You are a complete moron. S!monOn
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2:28pm Mon 14 Jan 13

userds5050 says...

S!monOn wrote:
userds5050 wrote:
I had a driver refuse to let me on because he'd let me on because "he'd never seen my pass before". After a lengthy heated conversation, a radio back to base I was allowed on as the pass was valid. Now if some impatient woman was telling me to get off when I had just as much right to travel as her I wouldn't be happy. It's like the guy who threw the kid off the train in Scotland when he was sold the wrong ticket. Lesson here: Don't be a vigilante.
Lesson here: You are a complete moron.
Lesson here: You need to learn some manners.
[quote][p][bold]S!monOn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: I had a driver refuse to let me on because he'd let me on because "he'd never seen my pass before". After a lengthy heated conversation, a radio back to base I was allowed on as the pass was valid. Now if some impatient woman was telling me to get off when I had just as much right to travel as her I wouldn't be happy. It's like the guy who threw the kid off the train in Scotland when he was sold the wrong ticket. Lesson here: Don't be a vigilante.[/p][/quote]Lesson here: You are a complete moron.[/p][/quote]Lesson here: You need to learn some manners. userds5050
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5:39pm Mon 14 Jan 13

bigfella777 says...

This story just about sums up this country now. When we see bad behaviour everyone just ignores it for fear of retribution and so it gets worse and worse.
I tried to make a citizens arrest once after seeing a youth vandalise a car and when I rang the police they told me to let him go or I could be arrested myself for kidnapping.
Human rights gone mad this country.
This story just about sums up this country now. When we see bad behaviour everyone just ignores it for fear of retribution and so it gets worse and worse. I tried to make a citizens arrest once after seeing a youth vandalise a car and when I rang the police they told me to let him go or I could be arrested myself for kidnapping. Human rights gone mad this country. bigfella777
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6:21pm Mon 14 Jan 13

userds5050 says...

bigfella777 wrote:
This story just about sums up this country now. When we see bad behaviour everyone just ignores it for fear of retribution and so it gets worse and worse.
I tried to make a citizens arrest once after seeing a youth vandalise a car and when I rang the police they told me to let him go or I could be arrested myself for kidnapping.
Human rights gone mad this country.
That's the whole point. We don't know there was bad behavior. It's different if someone's smashing up a car. But this is some woman who wants to get home and start her old man's tea and is being held up. We don't know why the guy was refusing to pay ect... There could be an explanation. You don't berate someone in front of you in a supermarket queue if they're querying a price ect... Why is this any different?
[quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: This story just about sums up this country now. When we see bad behaviour everyone just ignores it for fear of retribution and so it gets worse and worse. I tried to make a citizens arrest once after seeing a youth vandalise a car and when I rang the police they told me to let him go or I could be arrested myself for kidnapping. Human rights gone mad this country.[/p][/quote]That's the whole point. We don't know there was bad behavior. It's different if someone's smashing up a car. But this is some woman who wants to get home and start her old man's tea and is being held up. We don't know why the guy was refusing to pay ect... There could be an explanation. You don't berate someone in front of you in a supermarket queue if they're querying a price ect... Why is this any different? userds5050
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6:42pm Mon 14 Jan 13

sampton says...

userds5050 wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
This story just about sums up this country now. When we see bad behaviour everyone just ignores it for fear of retribution and so it gets worse and worse.
I tried to make a citizens arrest once after seeing a youth vandalise a car and when I rang the police they told me to let him go or I could be arrested myself for kidnapping.
Human rights gone mad this country.
That's the whole point. We don't know there was bad behavior. It's different if someone's smashing up a car. But this is some woman who wants to get home and start her old man's tea and is being held up. We don't know why the guy was refusing to pay ect... There could be an explanation. You don't berate someone in front of you in a supermarket queue if they're querying a price ect... Why is this any different?
Sorry... You think that someone who followed a person for about an hour and then punched them into traffic may just be 'querying the price'?

Not likely is it?
[quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: This story just about sums up this country now. When we see bad behaviour everyone just ignores it for fear of retribution and so it gets worse and worse. I tried to make a citizens arrest once after seeing a youth vandalise a car and when I rang the police they told me to let him go or I could be arrested myself for kidnapping. Human rights gone mad this country.[/p][/quote]That's the whole point. We don't know there was bad behavior. It's different if someone's smashing up a car. But this is some woman who wants to get home and start her old man's tea and is being held up. We don't know why the guy was refusing to pay ect... There could be an explanation. You don't berate someone in front of you in a supermarket queue if they're querying a price ect... Why is this any different?[/p][/quote]Sorry... You think that someone who followed a person for about an hour and then punched them into traffic may just be 'querying the price'? Not likely is it? sampton
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6:43pm Mon 14 Jan 13

sampton says...

sampton wrote:
userds5050 wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
This story just about sums up this country now. When we see bad behaviour everyone just ignores it for fear of retribution and so it gets worse and worse.
I tried to make a citizens arrest once after seeing a youth vandalise a car and when I rang the police they told me to let him go or I could be arrested myself for kidnapping.
Human rights gone mad this country.
That's the whole point. We don't know there was bad behavior. It's different if someone's smashing up a car. But this is some woman who wants to get home and start her old man's tea and is being held up. We don't know why the guy was refusing to pay ect... There could be an explanation. You don't berate someone in front of you in a supermarket queue if they're querying a price ect... Why is this any different?
Sorry... You think that someone who followed a person for about an hour and then punched them into traffic may just be 'querying the price'?

Not likely is it?
Oh sorry, he was only following her for 30 minutes. Maybe he just wanted the time?
[quote][p][bold]sampton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: This story just about sums up this country now. When we see bad behaviour everyone just ignores it for fear of retribution and so it gets worse and worse. I tried to make a citizens arrest once after seeing a youth vandalise a car and when I rang the police they told me to let him go or I could be arrested myself for kidnapping. Human rights gone mad this country.[/p][/quote]That's the whole point. We don't know there was bad behavior. It's different if someone's smashing up a car. But this is some woman who wants to get home and start her old man's tea and is being held up. We don't know why the guy was refusing to pay ect... There could be an explanation. You don't berate someone in front of you in a supermarket queue if they're querying a price ect... Why is this any different?[/p][/quote]Sorry... You think that someone who followed a person for about an hour and then punched them into traffic may just be 'querying the price'? Not likely is it?[/p][/quote]Oh sorry, he was only following her for 30 minutes. Maybe he just wanted the time? sampton
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6:47pm Mon 14 Jan 13

userds5050 says...

sampton wrote:
sampton wrote:
userds5050 wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
This story just about sums up this country now. When we see bad behaviour everyone just ignores it for fear of retribution and so it gets worse and worse.
I tried to make a citizens arrest once after seeing a youth vandalise a car and when I rang the police they told me to let him go or I could be arrested myself for kidnapping.
Human rights gone mad this country.
That's the whole point. We don't know there was bad behavior. It's different if someone's smashing up a car. But this is some woman who wants to get home and start her old man's tea and is being held up. We don't know why the guy was refusing to pay ect... There could be an explanation. You don't berate someone in front of you in a supermarket queue if they're querying a price ect... Why is this any different?
Sorry... You think that someone who followed a person for about an hour and then punched them into traffic may just be 'querying the price'?

Not likely is it?
Oh sorry, he was only following her for 30 minutes. Maybe he just wanted the time?
What happened after is irrelevant. We're talking about what happened on the bus and whether the woman had the right to intervene.
[quote][p][bold]sampton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sampton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: This story just about sums up this country now. When we see bad behaviour everyone just ignores it for fear of retribution and so it gets worse and worse. I tried to make a citizens arrest once after seeing a youth vandalise a car and when I rang the police they told me to let him go or I could be arrested myself for kidnapping. Human rights gone mad this country.[/p][/quote]That's the whole point. We don't know there was bad behavior. It's different if someone's smashing up a car. But this is some woman who wants to get home and start her old man's tea and is being held up. We don't know why the guy was refusing to pay ect... There could be an explanation. You don't berate someone in front of you in a supermarket queue if they're querying a price ect... Why is this any different?[/p][/quote]Sorry... You think that someone who followed a person for about an hour and then punched them into traffic may just be 'querying the price'? Not likely is it?[/p][/quote]Oh sorry, he was only following her for 30 minutes. Maybe he just wanted the time?[/p][/quote]What happened after is irrelevant. We're talking about what happened on the bus and whether the woman had the right to intervene. userds5050
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6:55pm Mon 14 Jan 13

sampton says...

userds5050 wrote:
sampton wrote:
sampton wrote:
userds5050 wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
This story just about sums up this country now. When we see bad behaviour everyone just ignores it for fear of retribution and so it gets worse and worse.
I tried to make a citizens arrest once after seeing a youth vandalise a car and when I rang the police they told me to let him go or I could be arrested myself for kidnapping.
Human rights gone mad this country.
That's the whole point. We don't know there was bad behavior. It's different if someone's smashing up a car. But this is some woman who wants to get home and start her old man's tea and is being held up. We don't know why the guy was refusing to pay ect... There could be an explanation. You don't berate someone in front of you in a supermarket queue if they're querying a price ect... Why is this any different?
Sorry... You think that someone who followed a person for about an hour and then punched them into traffic may just be 'querying the price'?

Not likely is it?
Oh sorry, he was only following her for 30 minutes. Maybe he just wanted the time?
What happened after is irrelevant. We're talking about what happened on the bus and whether the woman had the right to intervene.
It's not irrelevant at all, what happened on the bus initially was directly followed up with an assault some time after.

If someone was in front of me on a bus arguing with the driver, I'd ask if I could just get on too rather than stand out in the cold.

It's not a difficult case is it, guy is already irate with the driver, someone gets past him and he takes offence to it and attacks her in the street later on. I'd be very surprised if this went any other way. There's little to no mitigating for it at all.

Sympathies to the woman, hope they catch the guy.
[quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sampton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sampton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: This story just about sums up this country now. When we see bad behaviour everyone just ignores it for fear of retribution and so it gets worse and worse. I tried to make a citizens arrest once after seeing a youth vandalise a car and when I rang the police they told me to let him go or I could be arrested myself for kidnapping. Human rights gone mad this country.[/p][/quote]That's the whole point. We don't know there was bad behavior. It's different if someone's smashing up a car. But this is some woman who wants to get home and start her old man's tea and is being held up. We don't know why the guy was refusing to pay ect... There could be an explanation. You don't berate someone in front of you in a supermarket queue if they're querying a price ect... Why is this any different?[/p][/quote]Sorry... You think that someone who followed a person for about an hour and then punched them into traffic may just be 'querying the price'? Not likely is it?[/p][/quote]Oh sorry, he was only following her for 30 minutes. Maybe he just wanted the time?[/p][/quote]What happened after is irrelevant. We're talking about what happened on the bus and whether the woman had the right to intervene.[/p][/quote]It's not irrelevant at all, what happened on the bus initially was directly followed up with an assault some time after. If someone was in front of me on a bus arguing with the driver, I'd ask if I could just get on too rather than stand out in the cold. It's not a difficult case is it, guy is already irate with the driver, someone gets past him and he takes offence to it and attacks her in the street later on. I'd be very surprised if this went any other way. There's little to no mitigating for it at all. Sympathies to the woman, hope they catch the guy. sampton
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7:53pm Mon 14 Jan 13

KingKhan1983 says...

I had a driver refuse to let me on because he'd let me on because "he'd never seen my pass before". After a lengthy heated conversation, a radio back to base I was allowed on as the pass was valid. Now if some impatient woman was telling me to get off when I had just as much right to travel as her I wouldn't be happy. It's like the guy who threw the kid off the train in Scotland when he was sold the wrong ticket. Lesson here: Don't be a vigilante.”


Mate give it rest, she wasnt vigilante, she was just saying what everyone else was thinking and fair play to her, sometimes i wish i could punch into the gobby little s&*ts that make this city such unpleasant place to live at times
I had a driver refuse to let me on because he'd let me on because "he'd never seen my pass before". After a lengthy heated conversation, a radio back to base I was allowed on as the pass was valid. Now if some impatient woman was telling me to get off when I had just as much right to travel as her I wouldn't be happy. It's like the guy who threw the kid off the train in Scotland when he was sold the wrong ticket. Lesson here: Don't be a vigilante.” Mate give it rest, she wasnt vigilante, she was just saying what everyone else was thinking and fair play to her, sometimes i wish i could punch into the gobby little s&*ts that make this city such unpleasant place to live at times KingKhan1983
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8:08pm Mon 14 Jan 13

jimbos says...

SotonGreen wrote:
Call me cynical but any police report were someone is claiming an attack was unprovoked and that they were at all times polite and respectful to the other party makes me immediately suspect they were rude and aggressive.
The guy was refusing to pay for his ticket and held up a large queue of people trying to get on and get home for about 5 minutes. I heard the woman speaking from upstairs and she was neither rude or aggressive.
[quote][p][bold]SotonGreen[/bold] wrote: Call me cynical but any police report were someone is claiming an attack was unprovoked and that they were at all times polite and respectful to the other party makes me immediately suspect they were rude and aggressive.[/p][/quote]The guy was refusing to pay for his ticket and held up a large queue of people trying to get on and get home for about 5 minutes. I heard the woman speaking from upstairs and she was neither rude or aggressive. jimbos
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8:33pm Mon 14 Jan 13

userds5050 says...

KingKhan1983 wrote:
I had a driver refuse to let me on because he'd let me on because "he'd never seen my pass before". After a lengthy heated conversation, a radio back to base I was allowed on as the pass was valid. Now if some impatient woman was telling me to get off when I had just as much right to travel as her I wouldn't be happy. It's like the guy who threw the kid off the train in Scotland when he was sold the wrong ticket. Lesson here: Don't be a vigilante.”


Mate give it rest, she wasnt vigilante, she was just saying what everyone else was thinking and fair play to her, sometimes i wish i could punch into the gobby little s&*ts that make this city such unpleasant place to live at times
I'm not interested in you or your violence.
[quote][p][bold]KingKhan1983[/bold] wrote: I had a driver refuse to let me on because he'd let me on because "he'd never seen my pass before". After a lengthy heated conversation, a radio back to base I was allowed on as the pass was valid. Now if some impatient woman was telling me to get off when I had just as much right to travel as her I wouldn't be happy. It's like the guy who threw the kid off the train in Scotland when he was sold the wrong ticket. Lesson here: Don't be a vigilante.” Mate give it rest, she wasnt vigilante, she was just saying what everyone else was thinking and fair play to her, sometimes i wish i could punch into the gobby little s&*ts that make this city such unpleasant place to live at times[/p][/quote]I'm not interested in you or your violence. userds5050
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11:16pm Mon 14 Jan 13

ilogik_23 says...

sampton wrote:
userds5050 wrote:
sampton wrote:
sampton wrote:
userds5050 wrote:
bigfella777 wrote: This story just about sums up this country now. When we see bad behaviour everyone just ignores it for fear of retribution and so it gets worse and worse. I tried to make a citizens arrest once after seeing a youth vandalise a car and when I rang the police they told me to let him go or I could be arrested myself for kidnapping. Human rights gone mad this country.
That's the whole point. We don't know there was bad behavior. It's different if someone's smashing up a car. But this is some woman who wants to get home and start her old man's tea and is being held up. We don't know why the guy was refusing to pay ect... There could be an explanation. You don't berate someone in front of you in a supermarket queue if they're querying a price ect... Why is this any different?
Sorry... You think that someone who followed a person for about an hour and then punched them into traffic may just be 'querying the price'? Not likely is it?
Oh sorry, he was only following her for 30 minutes. Maybe he just wanted the time?
What happened after is irrelevant. We're talking about what happened on the bus and whether the woman had the right to intervene.
It's not irrelevant at all, what happened on the bus initially was directly followed up with an assault some time after. If someone was in front of me on a bus arguing with the driver, I'd ask if I could just get on too rather than stand out in the cold. It's not a difficult case is it, guy is already irate with the driver, someone gets past him and he takes offence to it and attacks her in the street later on. I'd be very surprised if this went any other way. There's little to no mitigating for it at all. Sympathies to the woman, hope they catch the guy.
Seriously sampton, as I said before in a previous post, you won't get through to this knucklehead and I think a few more can see the person is a plonker too. I made a point at the fact the guy assaulted the girl in a disgraceful way, doesn't matter what she said, to follow someone and then attack them like that is obscene. This person obviously can't see that, or is just not getting their point accross constructively. Maybe they will wake tomorrow and the penny will drop, although I'm not holding my breath..
[quote][p][bold]sampton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sampton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sampton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: This story just about sums up this country now. When we see bad behaviour everyone just ignores it for fear of retribution and so it gets worse and worse. I tried to make a citizens arrest once after seeing a youth vandalise a car and when I rang the police they told me to let him go or I could be arrested myself for kidnapping. Human rights gone mad this country.[/p][/quote]That's the whole point. We don't know there was bad behavior. It's different if someone's smashing up a car. But this is some woman who wants to get home and start her old man's tea and is being held up. We don't know why the guy was refusing to pay ect... There could be an explanation. You don't berate someone in front of you in a supermarket queue if they're querying a price ect... Why is this any different?[/p][/quote]Sorry... You think that someone who followed a person for about an hour and then punched them into traffic may just be 'querying the price'? Not likely is it?[/p][/quote]Oh sorry, he was only following her for 30 minutes. Maybe he just wanted the time?[/p][/quote]What happened after is irrelevant. We're talking about what happened on the bus and whether the woman had the right to intervene.[/p][/quote]It's not irrelevant at all, what happened on the bus initially was directly followed up with an assault some time after. If someone was in front of me on a bus arguing with the driver, I'd ask if I could just get on too rather than stand out in the cold. It's not a difficult case is it, guy is already irate with the driver, someone gets past him and he takes offence to it and attacks her in the street later on. I'd be very surprised if this went any other way. There's little to no mitigating for it at all. Sympathies to the woman, hope they catch the guy.[/p][/quote]Seriously sampton, as I said before in a previous post, you won't get through to this knucklehead and I think a few more can see the person is a plonker too. I made a point at the fact the guy assaulted the girl in a disgraceful way, doesn't matter what she said, to follow someone and then attack them like that is obscene. This person obviously can't see that, or is just not getting their point accross constructively. Maybe they will wake tomorrow and the penny will drop, although I'm not holding my breath.. ilogik_23
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12:47am Tue 15 Jan 13

Jesus_02 says...

sampton wrote:
userds5050 wrote:
sampton wrote:
sampton wrote:
userds5050 wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
This story just about sums up this country now. When we see bad behaviour everyone just ignores it for fear of retribution and so it gets worse and worse.
I tried to make a citizens arrest once after seeing a youth vandalise a car and when I rang the police they told me to let him go or I could be arrested myself for kidnapping.
Human rights gone mad this country.
That's the whole point. We don't know there was bad behavior. It's different if someone's smashing up a car. But this is some woman who wants to get home and start her old man's tea and is being held up. We don't know why the guy was refusing to pay ect... There could be an explanation. You don't berate someone in front of you in a supermarket queue if they're querying a price ect... Why is this any different?
Sorry... You think that someone who followed a person for about an hour and then punched them into traffic may just be 'querying the price'?

Not likely is it?
Oh sorry, he was only following her for 30 minutes. Maybe he just wanted the time?
What happened after is irrelevant. We're talking about what happened on the bus and whether the woman had the right to intervene.
It's not irrelevant at all, what happened on the bus initially was directly followed up with an assault some time after.

If someone was in front of me on a bus arguing with the driver, I'd ask if I could just get on too rather than stand out in the cold.

It's not a difficult case is it, guy is already irate with the driver, someone gets past him and he takes offence to it and attacks her in the street later on. I'd be very surprised if this went any other way. There's little to no mitigating for it at all.

Sympathies to the woman, hope they catch the guy.
Personally I think 5050 has a point. Maybe he just didnt put it well.

I dont think in any way that punching someone is acceptable. Also the fact that the guy followed her (and for so long) would suggest to me that he has some issues to say the least.

However, it sounds just like she was impatient and rude. Its not like she has intervened when someone is slapping their child.

Unfortunately for her she was rude to the wrong to someone that was obviously troubled enough. Personally i hope the guy is found because the streets would be safer if he was.

Lesson: Try to be nice to people
[quote][p][bold]sampton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sampton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sampton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: This story just about sums up this country now. When we see bad behaviour everyone just ignores it for fear of retribution and so it gets worse and worse. I tried to make a citizens arrest once after seeing a youth vandalise a car and when I rang the police they told me to let him go or I could be arrested myself for kidnapping. Human rights gone mad this country.[/p][/quote]That's the whole point. We don't know there was bad behavior. It's different if someone's smashing up a car. But this is some woman who wants to get home and start her old man's tea and is being held up. We don't know why the guy was refusing to pay ect... There could be an explanation. You don't berate someone in front of you in a supermarket queue if they're querying a price ect... Why is this any different?[/p][/quote]Sorry... You think that someone who followed a person for about an hour and then punched them into traffic may just be 'querying the price'? Not likely is it?[/p][/quote]Oh sorry, he was only following her for 30 minutes. Maybe he just wanted the time?[/p][/quote]What happened after is irrelevant. We're talking about what happened on the bus and whether the woman had the right to intervene.[/p][/quote]It's not irrelevant at all, what happened on the bus initially was directly followed up with an assault some time after. If someone was in front of me on a bus arguing with the driver, I'd ask if I could just get on too rather than stand out in the cold. It's not a difficult case is it, guy is already irate with the driver, someone gets past him and he takes offence to it and attacks her in the street later on. I'd be very surprised if this went any other way. There's little to no mitigating for it at all. Sympathies to the woman, hope they catch the guy.[/p][/quote]Personally I think 5050 has a point. Maybe he just didnt put it well. I dont think in any way that punching someone is acceptable. Also the fact that the guy followed her (and for so long) would suggest to me that he has some issues to say the least. However, it sounds just like she was impatient and rude. Its not like she has intervened when someone is slapping their child. Unfortunately for her she was rude to the wrong to someone that was obviously troubled enough. Personally i hope the guy is found because the streets would be safer if he was. Lesson: Try to be nice to people Jesus_02
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8:40am Tue 15 Jan 13

cliffwalker says...

userds5050 wrote:
I had a driver refuse to let me on because he'd let me on because "he'd never seen my pass before". After a lengthy heated conversation, a radio back to base I was allowed on as the pass was valid. Now if some impatient woman was telling me to get off when I had just as much right to travel as her I wouldn't be happy. It's like the guy who threw the kid off the train in Scotland when he was sold the wrong ticket. Lesson here: Don't be a vigilante.
Are you seriously saying this woman deserved to be stalked all the way from Chandlers Ford to Souhampton so she could be punched into a busy road where she might have died?
[quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: I had a driver refuse to let me on because he'd let me on because "he'd never seen my pass before". After a lengthy heated conversation, a radio back to base I was allowed on as the pass was valid. Now if some impatient woman was telling me to get off when I had just as much right to travel as her I wouldn't be happy. It's like the guy who threw the kid off the train in Scotland when he was sold the wrong ticket. Lesson here: Don't be a vigilante.[/p][/quote]Are you seriously saying this woman deserved to be stalked all the way from Chandlers Ford to Souhampton so she could be punched into a busy road where she might have died? cliffwalker
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10:51am Tue 15 Jan 13

S!monOn says...

Jesus_02 wrote:
sampton wrote:
userds5050 wrote:
sampton wrote:
sampton wrote:
userds5050 wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
This story just about sums up this country now. When we see bad behaviour everyone just ignores it for fear of retribution and so it gets worse and worse.
I tried to make a citizens arrest once after seeing a youth vandalise a car and when I rang the police they told me to let him go or I could be arrested myself for kidnapping.
Human rights gone mad this country.
That's the whole point. We don't know there was bad behavior. It's different if someone's smashing up a car. But this is some woman who wants to get home and start her old man's tea and is being held up. We don't know why the guy was refusing to pay ect... There could be an explanation. You don't berate someone in front of you in a supermarket queue if they're querying a price ect... Why is this any different?
Sorry... You think that someone who followed a person for about an hour and then punched them into traffic may just be 'querying the price'?

Not likely is it?
Oh sorry, he was only following her for 30 minutes. Maybe he just wanted the time?
What happened after is irrelevant. We're talking about what happened on the bus and whether the woman had the right to intervene.
It's not irrelevant at all, what happened on the bus initially was directly followed up with an assault some time after.

If someone was in front of me on a bus arguing with the driver, I'd ask if I could just get on too rather than stand out in the cold.

It's not a difficult case is it, guy is already irate with the driver, someone gets past him and he takes offence to it and attacks her in the street later on. I'd be very surprised if this went any other way. There's little to no mitigating for it at all.

Sympathies to the woman, hope they catch the guy.
Personally I think 5050 has a point. Maybe he just didnt put it well.

I dont think in any way that punching someone is acceptable. Also the fact that the guy followed her (and for so long) would suggest to me that he has some issues to say the least.

However, it sounds just like she was impatient and rude. Its not like she has intervened when someone is slapping their child.

Unfortunately for her she was rude to the wrong to someone that was obviously troubled enough. Personally i hope the guy is found because the streets would be safer if he was.

Lesson: Try to be nice to people
Lesson here: Learn to read.

An apparent witness has already posted on here to say she was neither rude or aggressive.
[quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sampton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sampton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sampton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: This story just about sums up this country now. When we see bad behaviour everyone just ignores it for fear of retribution and so it gets worse and worse. I tried to make a citizens arrest once after seeing a youth vandalise a car and when I rang the police they told me to let him go or I could be arrested myself for kidnapping. Human rights gone mad this country.[/p][/quote]That's the whole point. We don't know there was bad behavior. It's different if someone's smashing up a car. But this is some woman who wants to get home and start her old man's tea and is being held up. We don't know why the guy was refusing to pay ect... There could be an explanation. You don't berate someone in front of you in a supermarket queue if they're querying a price ect... Why is this any different?[/p][/quote]Sorry... You think that someone who followed a person for about an hour and then punched them into traffic may just be 'querying the price'? Not likely is it?[/p][/quote]Oh sorry, he was only following her for 30 minutes. Maybe he just wanted the time?[/p][/quote]What happened after is irrelevant. We're talking about what happened on the bus and whether the woman had the right to intervene.[/p][/quote]It's not irrelevant at all, what happened on the bus initially was directly followed up with an assault some time after. If someone was in front of me on a bus arguing with the driver, I'd ask if I could just get on too rather than stand out in the cold. It's not a difficult case is it, guy is already irate with the driver, someone gets past him and he takes offence to it and attacks her in the street later on. I'd be very surprised if this went any other way. There's little to no mitigating for it at all. Sympathies to the woman, hope they catch the guy.[/p][/quote]Personally I think 5050 has a point. Maybe he just didnt put it well. I dont think in any way that punching someone is acceptable. Also the fact that the guy followed her (and for so long) would suggest to me that he has some issues to say the least. However, it sounds just like she was impatient and rude. Its not like she has intervened when someone is slapping their child. Unfortunately for her she was rude to the wrong to someone that was obviously troubled enough. Personally i hope the guy is found because the streets would be safer if he was. Lesson: Try to be nice to people[/p][/quote]Lesson here: Learn to read. An apparent witness has already posted on here to say she was neither rude or aggressive. S!monOn
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10:51am Tue 15 Jan 13

S!monOn says...

Jesus_02 wrote:
sampton wrote:
userds5050 wrote:
sampton wrote:
sampton wrote:
userds5050 wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
This story just about sums up this country now. When we see bad behaviour everyone just ignores it for fear of retribution and so it gets worse and worse.
I tried to make a citizens arrest once after seeing a youth vandalise a car and when I rang the police they told me to let him go or I could be arrested myself for kidnapping.
Human rights gone mad this country.
That's the whole point. We don't know there was bad behavior. It's different if someone's smashing up a car. But this is some woman who wants to get home and start her old man's tea and is being held up. We don't know why the guy was refusing to pay ect... There could be an explanation. You don't berate someone in front of you in a supermarket queue if they're querying a price ect... Why is this any different?
Sorry... You think that someone who followed a person for about an hour and then punched them into traffic may just be 'querying the price'?

Not likely is it?
Oh sorry, he was only following her for 30 minutes. Maybe he just wanted the time?
What happened after is irrelevant. We're talking about what happened on the bus and whether the woman had the right to intervene.
It's not irrelevant at all, what happened on the bus initially was directly followed up with an assault some time after.

If someone was in front of me on a bus arguing with the driver, I'd ask if I could just get on too rather than stand out in the cold.

It's not a difficult case is it, guy is already irate with the driver, someone gets past him and he takes offence to it and attacks her in the street later on. I'd be very surprised if this went any other way. There's little to no mitigating for it at all.

Sympathies to the woman, hope they catch the guy.
Personally I think 5050 has a point. Maybe he just didnt put it well.

I dont think in any way that punching someone is acceptable. Also the fact that the guy followed her (and for so long) would suggest to me that he has some issues to say the least.

However, it sounds just like she was impatient and rude. Its not like she has intervened when someone is slapping their child.

Unfortunately for her she was rude to the wrong to someone that was obviously troubled enough. Personally i hope the guy is found because the streets would be safer if he was.

Lesson: Try to be nice to people
Lesson here: Learn to read.

An apparent witness has already posted on here to say she was neither rude or aggressive.
[quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sampton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sampton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sampton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: This story just about sums up this country now. When we see bad behaviour everyone just ignores it for fear of retribution and so it gets worse and worse. I tried to make a citizens arrest once after seeing a youth vandalise a car and when I rang the police they told me to let him go or I could be arrested myself for kidnapping. Human rights gone mad this country.[/p][/quote]That's the whole point. We don't know there was bad behavior. It's different if someone's smashing up a car. But this is some woman who wants to get home and start her old man's tea and is being held up. We don't know why the guy was refusing to pay ect... There could be an explanation. You don't berate someone in front of you in a supermarket queue if they're querying a price ect... Why is this any different?[/p][/quote]Sorry... You think that someone who followed a person for about an hour and then punched them into traffic may just be 'querying the price'? Not likely is it?[/p][/quote]Oh sorry, he was only following her for 30 minutes. Maybe he just wanted the time?[/p][/quote]What happened after is irrelevant. We're talking about what happened on the bus and whether the woman had the right to intervene.[/p][/quote]It's not irrelevant at all, what happened on the bus initially was directly followed up with an assault some time after. If someone was in front of me on a bus arguing with the driver, I'd ask if I could just get on too rather than stand out in the cold. It's not a difficult case is it, guy is already irate with the driver, someone gets past him and he takes offence to it and attacks her in the street later on. I'd be very surprised if this went any other way. There's little to no mitigating for it at all. Sympathies to the woman, hope they catch the guy.[/p][/quote]Personally I think 5050 has a point. Maybe he just didnt put it well. I dont think in any way that punching someone is acceptable. Also the fact that the guy followed her (and for so long) would suggest to me that he has some issues to say the least. However, it sounds just like she was impatient and rude. Its not like she has intervened when someone is slapping their child. Unfortunately for her she was rude to the wrong to someone that was obviously troubled enough. Personally i hope the guy is found because the streets would be safer if he was. Lesson: Try to be nice to people[/p][/quote]Lesson here: Learn to read. An apparent witness has already posted on here to say she was neither rude or aggressive. S!monOn
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11:22am Tue 15 Jan 13

userds5050 says...

S!monOn wrote:
Jesus_02 wrote:
sampton wrote:
userds5050 wrote:
sampton wrote:
sampton wrote:
userds5050 wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
This story just about sums up this country now. When we see bad behaviour everyone just ignores it for fear of retribution and so it gets worse and worse.
I tried to make a citizens arrest once after seeing a youth vandalise a car and when I rang the police they told me to let him go or I could be arrested myself for kidnapping.
Human rights gone mad this country.
That's the whole point. We don't know there was bad behavior. It's different if someone's smashing up a car. But this is some woman who wants to get home and start her old man's tea and is being held up. We don't know why the guy was refusing to pay ect... There could be an explanation. You don't berate someone in front of you in a supermarket queue if they're querying a price ect... Why is this any different?
Sorry... You think that someone who followed a person for about an hour and then punched them into traffic may just be 'querying the price'?

Not likely is it?
Oh sorry, he was only following her for 30 minutes. Maybe he just wanted the time?
What happened after is irrelevant. We're talking about what happened on the bus and whether the woman had the right to intervene.
It's not irrelevant at all, what happened on the bus initially was directly followed up with an assault some time after.

If someone was in front of me on a bus arguing with the driver, I'd ask if I could just get on too rather than stand out in the cold.

It's not a difficult case is it, guy is already irate with the driver, someone gets past him and he takes offence to it and attacks her in the street later on. I'd be very surprised if this went any other way. There's little to no mitigating for it at all.

Sympathies to the woman, hope they catch the guy.
Personally I think 5050 has a point. Maybe he just didnt put it well.

I dont think in any way that punching someone is acceptable. Also the fact that the guy followed her (and for so long) would suggest to me that he has some issues to say the least.

However, it sounds just like she was impatient and rude. Its not like she has intervened when someone is slapping their child.

Unfortunately for her she was rude to the wrong to someone that was obviously troubled enough. Personally i hope the guy is found because the streets would be safer if he was.

Lesson: Try to be nice to people
Lesson here: Learn to read.

An apparent witness has already posted on here to say she was neither rude or aggressive.
Er, he was sat upstairs so I'm sure he didn't see everything that went on. The woman has already said she pushed past him so not sure how he witnessed that.
Lesson here: get your facts straight.
[quote][p][bold]S!monOn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sampton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sampton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sampton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: This story just about sums up this country now. When we see bad behaviour everyone just ignores it for fear of retribution and so it gets worse and worse. I tried to make a citizens arrest once after seeing a youth vandalise a car and when I rang the police they told me to let him go or I could be arrested myself for kidnapping. Human rights gone mad this country.[/p][/quote]That's the whole point. We don't know there was bad behavior. It's different if someone's smashing up a car. But this is some woman who wants to get home and start her old man's tea and is being held up. We don't know why the guy was refusing to pay ect... There could be an explanation. You don't berate someone in front of you in a supermarket queue if they're querying a price ect... Why is this any different?[/p][/quote]Sorry... You think that someone who followed a person for about an hour and then punched them into traffic may just be 'querying the price'? Not likely is it?[/p][/quote]Oh sorry, he was only following her for 30 minutes. Maybe he just wanted the time?[/p][/quote]What happened after is irrelevant. We're talking about what happened on the bus and whether the woman had the right to intervene.[/p][/quote]It's not irrelevant at all, what happened on the bus initially was directly followed up with an assault some time after. If someone was in front of me on a bus arguing with the driver, I'd ask if I could just get on too rather than stand out in the cold. It's not a difficult case is it, guy is already irate with the driver, someone gets past him and he takes offence to it and attacks her in the street later on. I'd be very surprised if this went any other way. There's little to no mitigating for it at all. Sympathies to the woman, hope they catch the guy.[/p][/quote]Personally I think 5050 has a point. Maybe he just didnt put it well. I dont think in any way that punching someone is acceptable. Also the fact that the guy followed her (and for so long) would suggest to me that he has some issues to say the least. However, it sounds just like she was impatient and rude. Its not like she has intervened when someone is slapping their child. Unfortunately for her she was rude to the wrong to someone that was obviously troubled enough. Personally i hope the guy is found because the streets would be safer if he was. Lesson: Try to be nice to people[/p][/quote]Lesson here: Learn to read. An apparent witness has already posted on here to say she was neither rude or aggressive.[/p][/quote]Er, he was sat upstairs so I'm sure he didn't see everything that went on. The woman has already said she pushed past him so not sure how he witnessed that. Lesson here: get your facts straight. userds5050
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11:23am Tue 15 Jan 13

userds5050 says...

cliffwalker wrote:
userds5050 wrote:
I had a driver refuse to let me on because he'd let me on because "he'd never seen my pass before". After a lengthy heated conversation, a radio back to base I was allowed on as the pass was valid. Now if some impatient woman was telling me to get off when I had just as much right to travel as her I wouldn't be happy. It's like the guy who threw the kid off the train in Scotland when he was sold the wrong ticket. Lesson here: Don't be a vigilante.
Are you seriously saying this woman deserved to be stalked all the way from Chandlers Ford to Souhampton so she could be punched into a busy road where she might have died?
Go back and re read my posts and then point out where I've said that.
[quote][p][bold]cliffwalker[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: I had a driver refuse to let me on because he'd let me on because "he'd never seen my pass before". After a lengthy heated conversation, a radio back to base I was allowed on as the pass was valid. Now if some impatient woman was telling me to get off when I had just as much right to travel as her I wouldn't be happy. It's like the guy who threw the kid off the train in Scotland when he was sold the wrong ticket. Lesson here: Don't be a vigilante.[/p][/quote]Are you seriously saying this woman deserved to be stalked all the way from Chandlers Ford to Souhampton so she could be punched into a busy road where she might have died?[/p][/quote]Go back and re read my posts and then point out where I've said that. userds5050
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11:47am Tue 15 Jan 13

Subject48 says...

jimbos says...
8:08pm Mon 14 Jan 13
The guy was refusing to pay for his ticket and held up a large queue of people trying to get on and get home for about 5 minutes. I heard the woman speaking from upstairs and she was neither rude or aggressive”

You were there ?
jimbos says... 8:08pm Mon 14 Jan 13 The guy was refusing to pay for his ticket and held up a large queue of people trying to get on and get home for about 5 minutes. I heard the woman speaking from upstairs and she was neither rude or aggressive” You were there ? Subject48
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12:24pm Tue 15 Jan 13

jimbos says...

Yes I got on before either of them and was sat upstairs.
Yes I got on before either of them and was sat upstairs. jimbos
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12:28pm Tue 15 Jan 13

S!monOn says...

userds5050 wrote:
S!monOn wrote:
Jesus_02 wrote:
sampton wrote:
userds5050 wrote:
sampton wrote:
sampton wrote:
userds5050 wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
This story just about sums up this country now. When we see bad behaviour everyone just ignores it for fear of retribution and so it gets worse and worse.
I tried to make a citizens arrest once after seeing a youth vandalise a car and when I rang the police they told me to let him go or I could be arrested myself for kidnapping.
Human rights gone mad this country.
That's the whole point. We don't know there was bad behavior. It's different if someone's smashing up a car. But this is some woman who wants to get home and start her old man's tea and is being held up. We don't know why the guy was refusing to pay ect... There could be an explanation. You don't berate someone in front of you in a supermarket queue if they're querying a price ect... Why is this any different?
Sorry... You think that someone who followed a person for about an hour and then punched them into traffic may just be 'querying the price'?

Not likely is it?
Oh sorry, he was only following her for 30 minutes. Maybe he just wanted the time?
What happened after is irrelevant. We're talking about what happened on the bus and whether the woman had the right to intervene.
It's not irrelevant at all, what happened on the bus initially was directly followed up with an assault some time after.

If someone was in front of me on a bus arguing with the driver, I'd ask if I could just get on too rather than stand out in the cold.

It's not a difficult case is it, guy is already irate with the driver, someone gets past him and he takes offence to it and attacks her in the street later on. I'd be very surprised if this went any other way. There's little to no mitigating for it at all.

Sympathies to the woman, hope they catch the guy.
Personally I think 5050 has a point. Maybe he just didnt put it well.

I dont think in any way that punching someone is acceptable. Also the fact that the guy followed her (and for so long) would suggest to me that he has some issues to say the least.

However, it sounds just like she was impatient and rude. Its not like she has intervened when someone is slapping their child.

Unfortunately for her she was rude to the wrong to someone that was obviously troubled enough. Personally i hope the guy is found because the streets would be safer if he was.

Lesson: Try to be nice to people
Lesson here: Learn to read.

An apparent witness has already posted on here to say she was neither rude or aggressive.
Er, he was sat upstairs so I'm sure he didn't see everything that went on. The woman has already said she pushed past him so not sure how he witnessed that.
Lesson here: get your facts straight.
She didn't "pushed past him". The report said she "brushed passed the man".

Also, you can HEAR if someone is being rude and aggressive during a VERBAL confrontation.

Stop making a fool of yourself and shut up.
[quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]S!monOn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sampton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sampton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sampton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: This story just about sums up this country now. When we see bad behaviour everyone just ignores it for fear of retribution and so it gets worse and worse. I tried to make a citizens arrest once after seeing a youth vandalise a car and when I rang the police they told me to let him go or I could be arrested myself for kidnapping. Human rights gone mad this country.[/p][/quote]That's the whole point. We don't know there was bad behavior. It's different if someone's smashing up a car. But this is some woman who wants to get home and start her old man's tea and is being held up. We don't know why the guy was refusing to pay ect... There could be an explanation. You don't berate someone in front of you in a supermarket queue if they're querying a price ect... Why is this any different?[/p][/quote]Sorry... You think that someone who followed a person for about an hour and then punched them into traffic may just be 'querying the price'? Not likely is it?[/p][/quote]Oh sorry, he was only following her for 30 minutes. Maybe he just wanted the time?[/p][/quote]What happened after is irrelevant. We're talking about what happened on the bus and whether the woman had the right to intervene.[/p][/quote]It's not irrelevant at all, what happened on the bus initially was directly followed up with an assault some time after. If someone was in front of me on a bus arguing with the driver, I'd ask if I could just get on too rather than stand out in the cold. It's not a difficult case is it, guy is already irate with the driver, someone gets past him and he takes offence to it and attacks her in the street later on. I'd be very surprised if this went any other way. There's little to no mitigating for it at all. Sympathies to the woman, hope they catch the guy.[/p][/quote]Personally I think 5050 has a point. Maybe he just didnt put it well. I dont think in any way that punching someone is acceptable. Also the fact that the guy followed her (and for so long) would suggest to me that he has some issues to say the least. However, it sounds just like she was impatient and rude. Its not like she has intervened when someone is slapping their child. Unfortunately for her she was rude to the wrong to someone that was obviously troubled enough. Personally i hope the guy is found because the streets would be safer if he was. Lesson: Try to be nice to people[/p][/quote]Lesson here: Learn to read. An apparent witness has already posted on here to say she was neither rude or aggressive.[/p][/quote]Er, he was sat upstairs so I'm sure he didn't see everything that went on. The woman has already said she pushed past him so not sure how he witnessed that. Lesson here: get your facts straight.[/p][/quote]She didn't "pushed past him". The report said she "brushed passed the man". Also, you can HEAR if someone is being rude and aggressive during a VERBAL confrontation. Stop making a fool of yourself and shut up. S!monOn
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12:38pm Tue 15 Jan 13

userds5050 says...

S!monOn wrote:
userds5050 wrote:
S!monOn wrote:
Jesus_02 wrote:
sampton wrote:
userds5050 wrote:
sampton wrote:
sampton wrote:
userds5050 wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
This story just about sums up this country now. When we see bad behaviour everyone just ignores it for fear of retribution and so it gets worse and worse.
I tried to make a citizens arrest once after seeing a youth vandalise a car and when I rang the police they told me to let him go or I could be arrested myself for kidnapping.
Human rights gone mad this country.
That's the whole point. We don't know there was bad behavior. It's different if someone's smashing up a car. But this is some woman who wants to get home and start her old man's tea and is being held up. We don't know why the guy was refusing to pay ect... There could be an explanation. You don't berate someone in front of you in a supermarket queue if they're querying a price ect... Why is this any different?
Sorry... You think that someone who followed a person for about an hour and then punched them into traffic may just be 'querying the price'?

Not likely is it?
Oh sorry, he was only following her for 30 minutes. Maybe he just wanted the time?
What happened after is irrelevant. We're talking about what happened on the bus and whether the woman had the right to intervene.
It's not irrelevant at all, what happened on the bus initially was directly followed up with an assault some time after.

If someone was in front of me on a bus arguing with the driver, I'd ask if I could just get on too rather than stand out in the cold.

It's not a difficult case is it, guy is already irate with the driver, someone gets past him and he takes offence to it and attacks her in the street later on. I'd be very surprised if this went any other way. There's little to no mitigating for it at all.

Sympathies to the woman, hope they catch the guy.
Personally I think 5050 has a point. Maybe he just didnt put it well.

I dont think in any way that punching someone is acceptable. Also the fact that the guy followed her (and for so long) would suggest to me that he has some issues to say the least.

However, it sounds just like she was impatient and rude. Its not like she has intervened when someone is slapping their child.

Unfortunately for her she was rude to the wrong to someone that was obviously troubled enough. Personally i hope the guy is found because the streets would be safer if he was.

Lesson: Try to be nice to people
Lesson here: Learn to read.

An apparent witness has already posted on here to say she was neither rude or aggressive.
Er, he was sat upstairs so I'm sure he didn't see everything that went on. The woman has already said she pushed past him so not sure how he witnessed that.
Lesson here: get your facts straight.
She didn't "pushed past him". The report said she "brushed passed the man".

Also, you can HEAR if someone is being rude and aggressive during a VERBAL confrontation.

Stop making a fool of yourself and shut up.
You're the one who re opened the thread by having a go at Jesus. I'd rather hear from Jimbo as to how much he heard than take your word for it. Something wrong with your caps lock? #Muppet
[quote][p][bold]S!monOn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]S!monOn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sampton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sampton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sampton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: This story just about sums up this country now. When we see bad behaviour everyone just ignores it for fear of retribution and so it gets worse and worse. I tried to make a citizens arrest once after seeing a youth vandalise a car and when I rang the police they told me to let him go or I could be arrested myself for kidnapping. Human rights gone mad this country.[/p][/quote]That's the whole point. We don't know there was bad behavior. It's different if someone's smashing up a car. But this is some woman who wants to get home and start her old man's tea and is being held up. We don't know why the guy was refusing to pay ect... There could be an explanation. You don't berate someone in front of you in a supermarket queue if they're querying a price ect... Why is this any different?[/p][/quote]Sorry... You think that someone who followed a person for about an hour and then punched them into traffic may just be 'querying the price'? Not likely is it?[/p][/quote]Oh sorry, he was only following her for 30 minutes. Maybe he just wanted the time?[/p][/quote]What happened after is irrelevant. We're talking about what happened on the bus and whether the woman had the right to intervene.[/p][/quote]It's not irrelevant at all, what happened on the bus initially was directly followed up with an assault some time after. If someone was in front of me on a bus arguing with the driver, I'd ask if I could just get on too rather than stand out in the cold. It's not a difficult case is it, guy is already irate with the driver, someone gets past him and he takes offence to it and attacks her in the street later on. I'd be very surprised if this went any other way. There's little to no mitigating for it at all. Sympathies to the woman, hope they catch the guy.[/p][/quote]Personally I think 5050 has a point. Maybe he just didnt put it well. I dont think in any way that punching someone is acceptable. Also the fact that the guy followed her (and for so long) would suggest to me that he has some issues to say the least. However, it sounds just like she was impatient and rude. Its not like she has intervened when someone is slapping their child. Unfortunately for her she was rude to the wrong to someone that was obviously troubled enough. Personally i hope the guy is found because the streets would be safer if he was. Lesson: Try to be nice to people[/p][/quote]Lesson here: Learn to read. An apparent witness has already posted on here to say she was neither rude or aggressive.[/p][/quote]Er, he was sat upstairs so I'm sure he didn't see everything that went on. The woman has already said she pushed past him so not sure how he witnessed that. Lesson here: get your facts straight.[/p][/quote]She didn't "pushed past him". The report said she "brushed passed the man". Also, you can HEAR if someone is being rude and aggressive during a VERBAL confrontation. Stop making a fool of yourself and shut up.[/p][/quote]You're the one who re opened the thread by having a go at Jesus. I'd rather hear from Jimbo as to how much he heard than take your word for it. Something wrong with your caps lock? #Muppet userds5050
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1:03pm Tue 15 Jan 13

S!monOn says...

userds5050 wrote:
S!monOn wrote:
userds5050 wrote:
S!monOn wrote:
Jesus_02 wrote:
sampton wrote:
userds5050 wrote:
sampton wrote:
sampton wrote:
userds5050 wrote:
bigfella777 wrote:
This story just about sums up this country now. When we see bad behaviour everyone just ignores it for fear of retribution and so it gets worse and worse.
I tried to make a citizens arrest once after seeing a youth vandalise a car and when I rang the police they told me to let him go or I could be arrested myself for kidnapping.
Human rights gone mad this country.
That's the whole point. We don't know there was bad behavior. It's different if someone's smashing up a car. But this is some woman who wants to get home and start her old man's tea and is being held up. We don't know why the guy was refusing to pay ect... There could be an explanation. You don't berate someone in front of you in a supermarket queue if they're querying a price ect... Why is this any different?
Sorry... You think that someone who followed a person for about an hour and then punched them into traffic may just be 'querying the price'?

Not likely is it?
Oh sorry, he was only following her for 30 minutes. Maybe he just wanted the time?
What happened after is irrelevant. We're talking about what happened on the bus and whether the woman had the right to intervene.
It's not irrelevant at all, what happened on the bus initially was directly followed up with an assault some time after.

If someone was in front of me on a bus arguing with the driver, I'd ask if I could just get on too rather than stand out in the cold.

It's not a difficult case is it, guy is already irate with the driver, someone gets past him and he takes offence to it and attacks her in the street later on. I'd be very surprised if this went any other way. There's little to no mitigating for it at all.

Sympathies to the woman, hope they catch the guy.
Personally I think 5050 has a point. Maybe he just didnt put it well.

I dont think in any way that punching someone is acceptable. Also the fact that the guy followed her (and for so long) would suggest to me that he has some issues to say the least.

However, it sounds just like she was impatient and rude. Its not like she has intervened when someone is slapping their child.

Unfortunately for her she was rude to the wrong to someone that was obviously troubled enough. Personally i hope the guy is found because the streets would be safer if he was.

Lesson: Try to be nice to people
Lesson here: Learn to read.

An apparent witness has already posted on here to say she was neither rude or aggressive.
Er, he was sat upstairs so I'm sure he didn't see everything that went on. The woman has already said she pushed past him so not sure how he witnessed that.
Lesson here: get your facts straight.
She didn't "pushed past him". The report said she "brushed passed the man".

Also, you can HEAR if someone is being rude and aggressive during a VERBAL confrontation.

Stop making a fool of yourself and shut up.
You're the one who re opened the thread by having a go at Jesus. I'd rather hear from Jimbo as to how much he heard than take your word for it. Something wrong with your caps lock? #Muppet
That wasn't having a go. If you class that as having a go then no wonder you get yourself into heated exchanges. #Moron.
[quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]S!monOn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]S!monOn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sampton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sampton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sampton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: This story just about sums up this country now. When we see bad behaviour everyone just ignores it for fear of retribution and so it gets worse and worse. I tried to make a citizens arrest once after seeing a youth vandalise a car and when I rang the police they told me to let him go or I could be arrested myself for kidnapping. Human rights gone mad this country.[/p][/quote]That's the whole point. We don't know there was bad behavior. It's different if someone's smashing up a car. But this is some woman who wants to get home and start her old man's tea and is being held up. We don't know why the guy was refusing to pay ect... There could be an explanation. You don't berate someone in front of you in a supermarket queue if they're querying a price ect... Why is this any different?[/p][/quote]Sorry... You think that someone who followed a person for about an hour and then punched them into traffic may just be 'querying the price'? Not likely is it?[/p][/quote]Oh sorry, he was only following her for 30 minutes. Maybe he just wanted the time?[/p][/quote]What happened after is irrelevant. We're talking about what happened on the bus and whether the woman had the right to intervene.[/p][/quote]It's not irrelevant at all, what happened on the bus initially was directly followed up with an assault some time after. If someone was in front of me on a bus arguing with the driver, I'd ask if I could just get on too rather than stand out in the cold. It's not a difficult case is it, guy is already irate with the driver, someone gets past him and he takes offence to it and attacks her in the street later on. I'd be very surprised if this went any other way. There's little to no mitigating for it at all. Sympathies to the woman, hope they catch the guy.[/p][/quote]Personally I think 5050 has a point. Maybe he just didnt put it well. I dont think in any way that punching someone is acceptable. Also the fact that the guy followed her (and for so long) would suggest to me that he has some issues to say the least. However, it sounds just like she was impatient and rude. Its not like she has intervened when someone is slapping their child. Unfortunately for her she was rude to the wrong to someone that was obviously troubled enough. Personally i hope the guy is found because the streets would be safer if he was. Lesson: Try to be nice to people[/p][/quote]Lesson here: Learn to read. An apparent witness has already posted on here to say she was neither rude or aggressive.[/p][/quote]Er, he was sat upstairs so I'm sure he didn't see everything that went on. The woman has already said she pushed past him so not sure how he witnessed that. Lesson here: get your facts straight.[/p][/quote]She didn't "pushed past him". The report said she "brushed passed the man". Also, you can HEAR if someone is being rude and aggressive during a VERBAL confrontation. Stop making a fool of yourself and shut up.[/p][/quote]You're the one who re opened the thread by having a go at Jesus. I'd rather hear from Jimbo as to how much he heard than take your word for it. Something wrong with your caps lock? #Muppet[/p][/quote]That wasn't having a go. If you class that as having a go then no wonder you get yourself into heated exchanges. #Moron. S!monOn
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1:14pm Tue 15 Jan 13

userds5050 says...

Who's getting heated? I agree the woman did nothing wrong. My only point was sometimes it's better to stay out of it and let the driver deal with it. You are entitled to disagree with that. #Truce
Who's getting heated? I agree the woman did nothing wrong. My only point was sometimes it's better to stay out of it and let the driver deal with it. You are entitled to disagree with that. #Truce userds5050
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1:36pm Tue 15 Jan 13

ilogik_23 says...

S!monOn wrote:
userds5050 wrote:
S!monOn wrote:
userds5050 wrote:
S!monOn wrote:
Jesus_02 wrote:
sampton wrote:
userds5050 wrote:
sampton wrote:
sampton wrote:
userds5050 wrote:
bigfella777 wrote: This story just about sums up this country now. When we see bad behaviour everyone just ignores it for fear of retribution and so it gets worse and worse. I tried to make a citizens arrest once after seeing a youth vandalise a car and when I rang the police they told me to let him go or I could be arrested myself for kidnapping. Human rights gone mad this country.
That's the whole point. We don't know there was bad behavior. It's different if someone's smashing up a car. But this is some woman who wants to get home and start her old man's tea and is being held up. We don't know why the guy was refusing to pay ect... There could be an explanation. You don't berate someone in front of you in a supermarket queue if they're querying a price ect... Why is this any different?
Sorry... You think that someone who followed a person for about an hour and then punched them into traffic may just be 'querying the price'? Not likely is it?
Oh sorry, he was only following her for 30 minutes. Maybe he just wanted the time?
What happened after is irrelevant. We're talking about what happened on the bus and whether the woman had the right to intervene.
It's not irrelevant at all, what happened on the bus initially was directly followed up with an assault some time after. If someone was in front of me on a bus arguing with the driver, I'd ask if I could just get on too rather than stand out in the cold. It's not a difficult case is it, guy is already irate with the driver, someone gets past him and he takes offence to it and attacks her in the street later on. I'd be very surprised if this went any other way. There's little to no mitigating for it at all. Sympathies to the woman, hope they catch the guy.
Personally I think 5050 has a point. Maybe he just didnt put it well. I dont think in any way that punching someone is acceptable. Also the fact that the guy followed her (and for so long) would suggest to me that he has some issues to say the least. However, it sounds just like she was impatient and rude. Its not like she has intervened when someone is slapping their child. Unfortunately for her she was rude to the wrong to someone that was obviously troubled enough. Personally i hope the guy is found because the streets would be safer if he was. Lesson: Try to be nice to people
Lesson here: Learn to read. An apparent witness has already posted on here to say she was neither rude or aggressive.
Er, he was sat upstairs so I'm sure he didn't see everything that went on. The woman has already said she pushed past him so not sure how he witnessed that. Lesson here: get your facts straight.
She didn't "pushed past him". The report said she "brushed passed the man". Also, you can HEAR if someone is being rude and aggressive during a VERBAL confrontation. Stop making a fool of yourself and shut up.
You're the one who re opened the thread by having a go at Jesus. I'd rather hear from Jimbo as to how much he heard than take your word for it. Something wrong with your caps lock? #Muppet
That wasn't having a go. If you class that as having a go then no wonder you get yourself into heated exchanges. #Moron.
I said that in my first post S!monOn, hilarious reading but maybe it's gone a bit too far now, think it's best we just all agree to disagree with 5050, everyone has made a point, I'm out and so is 5050 by the sounds of it....
[quote][p][bold]S!monOn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]S!monOn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]S!monOn[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Jesus_02[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sampton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sampton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]sampton[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]userds5050[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]bigfella777[/bold] wrote: This story just about sums up this country now. When we see bad behaviour everyone just ignores it for fear of retribution and so it gets worse and worse. I tried to make a citizens arrest once after seeing a youth vandalise a car and when I rang the police they told me to let him go or I could be arrested myself for kidnapping. Human rights gone mad this country.[/p][/quote]That's the whole point. We don't know there was bad behavior. It's different if someone's smashing up a car. But this is some woman who wants to get home and start her old man's tea and is being held up. We don't know why the guy was refusing to pay ect... There could be an explanation. You don't berate someone in front of you in a supermarket queue if they're querying a price ect... Why is this any different?[/p][/quote]Sorry... You think that someone who followed a person for about an hour and then punched them into traffic may just be 'querying the price'? Not likely is it?[/p][/quote]Oh sorry, he was only following her for 30 minutes. Maybe he just wanted the time?[/p][/quote]What happened after is irrelevant. We're talking about what happened on the bus and whether the woman had the right to intervene.[/p][/quote]It's not irrelevant at all, what happened on the bus initially was directly followed up with an assault some time after. If someone was in front of me on a bus arguing with the driver, I'd ask if I could just get on too rather than stand out in the cold. It's not a difficult case is it, guy is already irate with the driver, someone gets past him and he takes offence to it and attacks her in the street later on. I'd be very surprised if this went any other way. There's little to no mitigating for it at all. Sympathies to the woman, hope they catch the guy.[/p][/quote]Personally I think 5050 has a point. Maybe he just didnt put it well. I dont think in any way that punching someone is acceptable. Also the fact that the guy followed her (and for so long) would suggest to me that he has some issues to say the least. However, it sounds just like she was impatient and rude. Its not like she has intervened when someone is slapping their child. Unfortunately for her she was rude to the wrong to someone that was obviously troubled enough. Personally i hope the guy is found because the streets would be safer if he was. Lesson: Try to be nice to people[/p][/quote]Lesson here: Learn to read. An apparent witness has already posted on here to say she was neither rude or aggressive.[/p][/quote]Er, he was sat upstairs so I'm sure he didn't see everything that went on. The woman has already said she pushed past him so not sure how he witnessed that. Lesson here: get your facts straight.[/p][/quote]She didn't "pushed past him". The report said she "brushed passed the man". Also, you can HEAR if someone is being rude and aggressive during a VERBAL confrontation. Stop making a fool of yourself and shut up.[/p][/quote]You're the one who re opened the thread by having a go at Jesus. I'd rather hear from Jimbo as to how much he heard than take your word for it. Something wrong with your caps lock? #Muppet[/p][/quote]That wasn't having a go. If you class that as having a go then no wonder you get yourself into heated exchanges. #Moron.[/p][/quote]I said that in my first post S!monOn, hilarious reading but maybe it's gone a bit too far now, think it's best we just all agree to disagree with 5050, everyone has made a point, I'm out and so is 5050 by the sounds of it.... ilogik_23
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