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Rush hour terror as woman is punched into path of traffic
8:24am Monday 14th January 2013 in News
Woman punched into path of rush hour traffic
A YOUNG woman was left scrambling to safety on her hands and knees in the middle of rush-hour traffic after a hooded stranger punched her into the road.
Blinded by headlights, she found herself lying in the road with cars quickly heading towards her.
The frightening ordeal started 30 minutes earlier when she was getting on a bus outside the Asda supermarket in Chandler’s Ford.
As she stood in the queue the man in front of her was refusing to pay for a ticket, arguing with the driver of the No 1 Bluestar bus from Winchester.
Eager to get home to get ready for a surprise meal she had organised for her partner’s birthday and to help the bus driver, she intervened and politely asked the man to get off the bus if he wasn’t going to pay as he was holding up everyone in the queue.
As he still refused to get off, the bus driver allowed her and the other passengers on and she brushed passed the man as she made her way to the top deck.
Moments later he suddenly appeared and sat behind her, staring at her throughout the 20-minute journey into Southampton city centre.
She nervously got off in Civic Centre Road but to her horror the man followed her.
Scared, she rushed into Maynards newsagents and told the shop worker that she was being followed.
After five minutes the man couldn’t be seen so she left and headed towards Above Bar Street, but within seconds he jumped out of the darkness and grabbed her, shouting at her for pushing past him on the bus.
Apologising, the woman tried to get away but the man punched her, causing her to fall and hit her head on the road.
It was only thanks to the help of a passer-by that she was able to get back to the pavement before she was hit by oncoming traffic.
The woman has suffered a suspected broken nose, leaving her with two black eyes, a bang to the back of the head and pain in her arms and shoulders.
Police are appealing for witnesses to the attack, at 4.30pm on January 8, to come forward.
- The attacker is black, aged 20-25, 5ft 10in and slim with with a wide nose.
He was dressed in black, wearing a hoodie with a red zip with the hood up.
- Anyone with information can contact PC James Lindley at Southampton Central police station on 101.
Comments(45)
huckit P
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9:15am Mon 14 Jan 13
Taskforce 141
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9:18am Mon 14 Jan 13
This is when Karma needs to prove its existence!
Big Mac
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9:26am Mon 14 Jan 13
userds5050
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9:32am Mon 14 Jan 13
MGRA
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9:32am Mon 14 Jan 13
mrblunt
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9:46am Mon 14 Jan 13
userds5050
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9:49am Mon 14 Jan 13
mrblunt wrote:What's wrong with Maynards?
She didn't call the police because she didn't want to wait in Maynards for two hours for them to arrive !!
Sovietobserver
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10:07am Mon 14 Jan 13
userds5050 wrote:userds5050, read the article FFS " she was eager to get home to get ready for a surprise meal she was organising for her partner's birthday".
mrblunt wrote:What's wrong with Maynards?
She didn't call the police because she didn't want to wait in Maynards for two hours for them to arrive !!
freefinker
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10:15am Mon 14 Jan 13
Sovietobserver wrote:.. I think you are missing the joke.
userds5050 wrote:userds5050, read the article FFS " she was eager to get home to get ready for a surprise meal she was organising for her partner's birthday".
mrblunt wrote:What's wrong with Maynards?
She didn't call the police because she didn't want to wait in Maynards for two hours for them to arrive !!
Sovietobserver
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10:27am Mon 14 Jan 13
freefinker wrote:I was being predetermined specially not to accept it as a joke , because of the serious nature of the incident, and also the victim should be respected out of sympathy, which is not being demonstrated by others.
Sovietobserver wrote:.. I think you are missing the joke.
userds5050 wrote:userds5050, read the article FFS " she was eager to get home to get ready for a surprise meal she was organising for her partner's birthday".
mrblunt wrote:What's wrong with Maynards?
She didn't call the police because she didn't want to wait in Maynards for two hours for them to arrive !!
soton1980
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10:40am Mon 14 Jan 13
MGRA
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10:51am Mon 14 Jan 13
Sovietobserver wrote:I was making a serious point. Being followed like that wa serious cause for calling the police.... More to the point the shop assistant must have been stupid beyond reason for not calling the police immediately....
freefinker wrote:I was being predetermined specially not to accept it as a joke , because of the serious nature of the incident, and also the victim should be respected out of sympathy, which is not being demonstrated by others.
Sovietobserver wrote:.. I think you are missing the joke.
userds5050 wrote:userds5050, read the article FFS " she was eager to get home to get ready for a surprise meal she was organising for her partner's birthday".
mrblunt wrote:What's wrong with Maynards?
She didn't call the police because she didn't want to wait in Maynards for two hours for them to arrive !!
voiceof thepeople
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11:06am Mon 14 Jan 13
For pity sake
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11:32am Mon 14 Jan 13
"I had a driver refuse to let me on because he'd let me on because ..."
Pardon?
SotonGreen
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11:51am Mon 14 Jan 13
userds5050
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12:06pm Mon 14 Jan 13
SotonGreen wrote:For sure. What's the driver got to say in all this? Would be very surprised if he just let the guy on for free just because he was holding up the other passengers. Something smells fishy and it's not her partner's surprise dinner.
Call me cynical but any police report were someone is claiming an attack was unprovoked and that they were at all times polite and respectful to the other party makes me immediately suspect they were rude and aggressive.
meechy
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12:39pm Mon 14 Jan 13
ilogik_23
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1:19pm Mon 14 Jan 13
userds5050 wrote:Erm...Anybody miss this posted by a complete moron?? The girl had every right to intervene and ask him to move off, out of the way, and yes granted he has the right to say back off it's my business. Think you might find he went off the scale in following her, punching her in the face and possibly breaking her nose! Again on here, alsoran morons make jokes of it, but I wonder if the girl was someone they knew they wouldn't even squeak a peep! Some people need to grow up a little (I and possibly) the majority of adult society think..
I had a driver refuse to let me on because he'd let me on because "he'd never seen my pass before". After a lengthy heated conversation, a radio back to base I was allowed on as the pass was valid. Now if some impatient woman was telling me to get off when I had just as much right to travel as her I wouldn't be happy. It's like the guy who threw the kid off the train in Scotland when he was sold the wrong ticket. Lesson here: Don't be a vigilante.
userds5050
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2:15pm Mon 14 Jan 13
ilogik_23 wrote:Did I say I didn't think he went off the scale? Most of adult society learn to wait in line and let the driver deal with it. She's already said she was impatient because she was preparing her partner's dinner. Besides I'm not going to be lectured on adult behavior by someone who resorts to insults at the first opportunity.
userds5050 wrote:Erm...Anybody miss this posted by a complete moron?? The girl had every right to intervene and ask him to move off, out of the way, and yes granted he has the right to say back off it's my business. Think you might find he went off the scale in following her, punching her in the face and possibly breaking her nose! Again on here, alsoran morons make jokes of it, but I wonder if the girl was someone they knew they wouldn't even squeak a peep! Some people need to grow up a little (I and possibly) the majority of adult society think..
I had a driver refuse to let me on because he'd let me on because "he'd never seen my pass before". After a lengthy heated conversation, a radio back to base I was allowed on as the pass was valid. Now if some impatient woman was telling me to get off when I had just as much right to travel as her I wouldn't be happy. It's like the guy who threw the kid off the train in Scotland when he was sold the wrong ticket. Lesson here: Don't be a vigilante.
S!monOn
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2:23pm Mon 14 Jan 13
userds5050 wrote:Lesson here: You are a complete moron.
I had a driver refuse to let me on because he'd let me on because "he'd never seen my pass before". After a lengthy heated conversation, a radio back to base I was allowed on as the pass was valid. Now if some impatient woman was telling me to get off when I had just as much right to travel as her I wouldn't be happy. It's like the guy who threw the kid off the train in Scotland when he was sold the wrong ticket. Lesson here: Don't be a vigilante.
userds5050
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2:28pm Mon 14 Jan 13
S!monOn wrote:Lesson here: You need to learn some manners.
userds5050 wrote:Lesson here: You are a complete moron.
I had a driver refuse to let me on because he'd let me on because "he'd never seen my pass before". After a lengthy heated conversation, a radio back to base I was allowed on as the pass was valid. Now if some impatient woman was telling me to get off when I had just as much right to travel as her I wouldn't be happy. It's like the guy who threw the kid off the train in Scotland when he was sold the wrong ticket. Lesson here: Don't be a vigilante.
bigfella777
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5:39pm Mon 14 Jan 13
I tried to make a citizens arrest once after seeing a youth vandalise a car and when I rang the police they told me to let him go or I could be arrested myself for kidnapping.
Human rights gone mad this country.
userds5050
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6:21pm Mon 14 Jan 13
bigfella777 wrote:That's the whole point. We don't know there was bad behavior. It's different if someone's smashing up a car. But this is some woman who wants to get home and start her old man's tea and is being held up. We don't know why the guy was refusing to pay ect... There could be an explanation. You don't berate someone in front of you in a supermarket queue if they're querying a price ect... Why is this any different?
This story just about sums up this country now. When we see bad behaviour everyone just ignores it for fear of retribution and so it gets worse and worse.
I tried to make a citizens arrest once after seeing a youth vandalise a car and when I rang the police they told me to let him go or I could be arrested myself for kidnapping.
Human rights gone mad this country.
sampton
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6:42pm Mon 14 Jan 13
userds5050 wrote:Sorry... You think that someone who followed a person for about an hour and then punched them into traffic may just be 'querying the price'?
bigfella777 wrote:That's the whole point. We don't know there was bad behavior. It's different if someone's smashing up a car. But this is some woman who wants to get home and start her old man's tea and is being held up. We don't know why the guy was refusing to pay ect... There could be an explanation. You don't berate someone in front of you in a supermarket queue if they're querying a price ect... Why is this any different?
This story just about sums up this country now. When we see bad behaviour everyone just ignores it for fear of retribution and so it gets worse and worse.
I tried to make a citizens arrest once after seeing a youth vandalise a car and when I rang the police they told me to let him go or I could be arrested myself for kidnapping.
Human rights gone mad this country.
Not likely is it?
sampton
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6:43pm Mon 14 Jan 13
sampton wrote:Oh sorry, he was only following her for 30 minutes. Maybe he just wanted the time?
userds5050 wrote:Sorry... You think that someone who followed a person for about an hour and then punched them into traffic may just be 'querying the price'?
bigfella777 wrote:That's the whole point. We don't know there was bad behavior. It's different if someone's smashing up a car. But this is some woman who wants to get home and start her old man's tea and is being held up. We don't know why the guy was refusing to pay ect... There could be an explanation. You don't berate someone in front of you in a supermarket queue if they're querying a price ect... Why is this any different?
This story just about sums up this country now. When we see bad behaviour everyone just ignores it for fear of retribution and so it gets worse and worse.
I tried to make a citizens arrest once after seeing a youth vandalise a car and when I rang the police they told me to let him go or I could be arrested myself for kidnapping.
Human rights gone mad this country.
Not likely is it?
userds5050
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6:47pm Mon 14 Jan 13
sampton wrote:What happened after is irrelevant. We're talking about what happened on the bus and whether the woman had the right to intervene.
sampton wrote:Oh sorry, he was only following her for 30 minutes. Maybe he just wanted the time?
userds5050 wrote:Sorry... You think that someone who followed a person for about an hour and then punched them into traffic may just be 'querying the price'?
bigfella777 wrote:That's the whole point. We don't know there was bad behavior. It's different if someone's smashing up a car. But this is some woman who wants to get home and start her old man's tea and is being held up. We don't know why the guy was refusing to pay ect... There could be an explanation. You don't berate someone in front of you in a supermarket queue if they're querying a price ect... Why is this any different?
This story just about sums up this country now. When we see bad behaviour everyone just ignores it for fear of retribution and so it gets worse and worse.
I tried to make a citizens arrest once after seeing a youth vandalise a car and when I rang the police they told me to let him go or I could be arrested myself for kidnapping.
Human rights gone mad this country.
Not likely is it?
sampton
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6:55pm Mon 14 Jan 13
userds5050 wrote:It's not irrelevant at all, what happened on the bus initially was directly followed up with an assault some time after.
sampton wrote:What happened after is irrelevant. We're talking about what happened on the bus and whether the woman had the right to intervene.
sampton wrote:Oh sorry, he was only following her for 30 minutes. Maybe he just wanted the time?
userds5050 wrote:Sorry... You think that someone who followed a person for about an hour and then punched them into traffic may just be 'querying the price'?
bigfella777 wrote:That's the whole point. We don't know there was bad behavior. It's different if someone's smashing up a car. But this is some woman who wants to get home and start her old man's tea and is being held up. We don't know why the guy was refusing to pay ect... There could be an explanation. You don't berate someone in front of you in a supermarket queue if they're querying a price ect... Why is this any different?
This story just about sums up this country now. When we see bad behaviour everyone just ignores it for fear of retribution and so it gets worse and worse.
I tried to make a citizens arrest once after seeing a youth vandalise a car and when I rang the police they told me to let him go or I could be arrested myself for kidnapping.
Human rights gone mad this country.
Not likely is it?
If someone was in front of me on a bus arguing with the driver, I'd ask if I could just get on too rather than stand out in the cold.
It's not a difficult case is it, guy is already irate with the driver, someone gets past him and he takes offence to it and attacks her in the street later on. I'd be very surprised if this went any other way. There's little to no mitigating for it at all.
Sympathies to the woman, hope they catch the guy.
KingKhan1983
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7:53pm Mon 14 Jan 13
Mate give it rest, she wasnt vigilante, she was just saying what everyone else was thinking and fair play to her, sometimes i wish i could punch into the gobby little s&*ts that make this city such unpleasant place to live at times
jimbos
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8:08pm Mon 14 Jan 13
SotonGreen wrote:The guy was refusing to pay for his ticket and held up a large queue of people trying to get on and get home for about 5 minutes. I heard the woman speaking from upstairs and she was neither rude or aggressive.
Call me cynical but any police report were someone is claiming an attack was unprovoked and that they were at all times polite and respectful to the other party makes me immediately suspect they were rude and aggressive.
userds5050
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8:33pm Mon 14 Jan 13
KingKhan1983 wrote:I'm not interested in you or your violence.
I had a driver refuse to let me on because he'd let me on because "he'd never seen my pass before". After a lengthy heated conversation, a radio back to base I was allowed on as the pass was valid. Now if some impatient woman was telling me to get off when I had just as much right to travel as her I wouldn't be happy. It's like the guy who threw the kid off the train in Scotland when he was sold the wrong ticket. Lesson here: Don't be a vigilante.”
Mate give it rest, she wasnt vigilante, she was just saying what everyone else was thinking and fair play to her, sometimes i wish i could punch into the gobby little s&*ts that make this city such unpleasant place to live at times
ilogik_23
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11:16pm Mon 14 Jan 13
sampton wrote:Seriously sampton, as I said before in a previous post, you won't get through to this knucklehead and I think a few more can see the person is a plonker too. I made a point at the fact the guy assaulted the girl in a disgraceful way, doesn't matter what she said, to follow someone and then attack them like that is obscene. This person obviously can't see that, or is just not getting their point accross constructively. Maybe they will wake tomorrow and the penny will drop, although I'm not holding my breath..
userds5050 wrote:It's not irrelevant at all, what happened on the bus initially was directly followed up with an assault some time after. If someone was in front of me on a bus arguing with the driver, I'd ask if I could just get on too rather than stand out in the cold. It's not a difficult case is it, guy is already irate with the driver, someone gets past him and he takes offence to it and attacks her in the street later on. I'd be very surprised if this went any other way. There's little to no mitigating for it at all. Sympathies to the woman, hope they catch the guy.sampton wrote:What happened after is irrelevant. We're talking about what happened on the bus and whether the woman had the right to intervene.sampton wrote:Oh sorry, he was only following her for 30 minutes. Maybe he just wanted the time?userds5050 wrote:Sorry... You think that someone who followed a person for about an hour and then punched them into traffic may just be 'querying the price'? Not likely is it?bigfella777 wrote: This story just about sums up this country now. When we see bad behaviour everyone just ignores it for fear of retribution and so it gets worse and worse. I tried to make a citizens arrest once after seeing a youth vandalise a car and when I rang the police they told me to let him go or I could be arrested myself for kidnapping. Human rights gone mad this country.That's the whole point. We don't know there was bad behavior. It's different if someone's smashing up a car. But this is some woman who wants to get home and start her old man's tea and is being held up. We don't know why the guy was refusing to pay ect... There could be an explanation. You don't berate someone in front of you in a supermarket queue if they're querying a price ect... Why is this any different?
Jesus_02
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12:47am Tue 15 Jan 13
sampton wrote:Personally I think 5050 has a point. Maybe he just didnt put it well.
userds5050 wrote:It's not irrelevant at all, what happened on the bus initially was directly followed up with an assault some time after.
sampton wrote:What happened after is irrelevant. We're talking about what happened on the bus and whether the woman had the right to intervene.
sampton wrote:Oh sorry, he was only following her for 30 minutes. Maybe he just wanted the time?
userds5050 wrote:Sorry... You think that someone who followed a person for about an hour and then punched them into traffic may just be 'querying the price'?
bigfella777 wrote:That's the whole point. We don't know there was bad behavior. It's different if someone's smashing up a car. But this is some woman who wants to get home and start her old man's tea and is being held up. We don't know why the guy was refusing to pay ect... There could be an explanation. You don't berate someone in front of you in a supermarket queue if they're querying a price ect... Why is this any different?
This story just about sums up this country now. When we see bad behaviour everyone just ignores it for fear of retribution and so it gets worse and worse.
I tried to make a citizens arrest once after seeing a youth vandalise a car and when I rang the police they told me to let him go or I could be arrested myself for kidnapping.
Human rights gone mad this country.
Not likely is it?
If someone was in front of me on a bus arguing with the driver, I'd ask if I could just get on too rather than stand out in the cold.
It's not a difficult case is it, guy is already irate with the driver, someone gets past him and he takes offence to it and attacks her in the street later on. I'd be very surprised if this went any other way. There's little to no mitigating for it at all.
Sympathies to the woman, hope they catch the guy.
I dont think in any way that punching someone is acceptable. Also the fact that the guy followed her (and for so long) would suggest to me that he has some issues to say the least.
However, it sounds just like she was impatient and rude. Its not like she has intervened when someone is slapping their child.
Unfortunately for her she was rude to the wrong to someone that was obviously troubled enough. Personally i hope the guy is found because the streets would be safer if he was.
Lesson: Try to be nice to people
cliffwalker
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8:40am Tue 15 Jan 13
userds5050 wrote:Are you seriously saying this woman deserved to be stalked all the way from Chandlers Ford to Souhampton so she could be punched into a busy road where she might have died?
I had a driver refuse to let me on because he'd let me on because "he'd never seen my pass before". After a lengthy heated conversation, a radio back to base I was allowed on as the pass was valid. Now if some impatient woman was telling me to get off when I had just as much right to travel as her I wouldn't be happy. It's like the guy who threw the kid off the train in Scotland when he was sold the wrong ticket. Lesson here: Don't be a vigilante.
S!monOn
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10:51am Tue 15 Jan 13
Jesus_02 wrote:Lesson here: Learn to read.
sampton wrote:Personally I think 5050 has a point. Maybe he just didnt put it well.
userds5050 wrote:It's not irrelevant at all, what happened on the bus initially was directly followed up with an assault some time after.
sampton wrote:What happened after is irrelevant. We're talking about what happened on the bus and whether the woman had the right to intervene.
sampton wrote:Oh sorry, he was only following her for 30 minutes. Maybe he just wanted the time?
userds5050 wrote:Sorry... You think that someone who followed a person for about an hour and then punched them into traffic may just be 'querying the price'?
bigfella777 wrote:That's the whole point. We don't know there was bad behavior. It's different if someone's smashing up a car. But this is some woman who wants to get home and start her old man's tea and is being held up. We don't know why the guy was refusing to pay ect... There could be an explanation. You don't berate someone in front of you in a supermarket queue if they're querying a price ect... Why is this any different?
This story just about sums up this country now. When we see bad behaviour everyone just ignores it for fear of retribution and so it gets worse and worse.
I tried to make a citizens arrest once after seeing a youth vandalise a car and when I rang the police they told me to let him go or I could be arrested myself for kidnapping.
Human rights gone mad this country.
Not likely is it?
If someone was in front of me on a bus arguing with the driver, I'd ask if I could just get on too rather than stand out in the cold.
It's not a difficult case is it, guy is already irate with the driver, someone gets past him and he takes offence to it and attacks her in the street later on. I'd be very surprised if this went any other way. There's little to no mitigating for it at all.
Sympathies to the woman, hope they catch the guy.
I dont think in any way that punching someone is acceptable. Also the fact that the guy followed her (and for so long) would suggest to me that he has some issues to say the least.
However, it sounds just like she was impatient and rude. Its not like she has intervened when someone is slapping their child.
Unfortunately for her she was rude to the wrong to someone that was obviously troubled enough. Personally i hope the guy is found because the streets would be safer if he was.
Lesson: Try to be nice to people
An apparent witness has already posted on here to say she was neither rude or aggressive.
S!monOn
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10:51am Tue 15 Jan 13
Jesus_02 wrote:Lesson here: Learn to read.
sampton wrote:Personally I think 5050 has a point. Maybe he just didnt put it well.
userds5050 wrote:It's not irrelevant at all, what happened on the bus initially was directly followed up with an assault some time after.
sampton wrote:What happened after is irrelevant. We're talking about what happened on the bus and whether the woman had the right to intervene.
sampton wrote:Oh sorry, he was only following her for 30 minutes. Maybe he just wanted the time?
userds5050 wrote:Sorry... You think that someone who followed a person for about an hour and then punched them into traffic may just be 'querying the price'?
bigfella777 wrote:That's the whole point. We don't know there was bad behavior. It's different if someone's smashing up a car. But this is some woman who wants to get home and start her old man's tea and is being held up. We don't know why the guy was refusing to pay ect... There could be an explanation. You don't berate someone in front of you in a supermarket queue if they're querying a price ect... Why is this any different?
This story just about sums up this country now. When we see bad behaviour everyone just ignores it for fear of retribution and so it gets worse and worse.
I tried to make a citizens arrest once after seeing a youth vandalise a car and when I rang the police they told me to let him go or I could be arrested myself for kidnapping.
Human rights gone mad this country.
Not likely is it?
If someone was in front of me on a bus arguing with the driver, I'd ask if I could just get on too rather than stand out in the cold.
It's not a difficult case is it, guy is already irate with the driver, someone gets past him and he takes offence to it and attacks her in the street later on. I'd be very surprised if this went any other way. There's little to no mitigating for it at all.
Sympathies to the woman, hope they catch the guy.
I dont think in any way that punching someone is acceptable. Also the fact that the guy followed her (and for so long) would suggest to me that he has some issues to say the least.
However, it sounds just like she was impatient and rude. Its not like she has intervened when someone is slapping their child.
Unfortunately for her she was rude to the wrong to someone that was obviously troubled enough. Personally i hope the guy is found because the streets would be safer if he was.
Lesson: Try to be nice to people
An apparent witness has already posted on here to say she was neither rude or aggressive.
userds5050
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11:22am Tue 15 Jan 13
S!monOn wrote:Er, he was sat upstairs so I'm sure he didn't see everything that went on. The woman has already said she pushed past him so not sure how he witnessed that.
Jesus_02 wrote:Lesson here: Learn to read.
sampton wrote:Personally I think 5050 has a point. Maybe he just didnt put it well.
userds5050 wrote:It's not irrelevant at all, what happened on the bus initially was directly followed up with an assault some time after.
sampton wrote:What happened after is irrelevant. We're talking about what happened on the bus and whether the woman had the right to intervene.
sampton wrote:Oh sorry, he was only following her for 30 minutes. Maybe he just wanted the time?
userds5050 wrote:Sorry... You think that someone who followed a person for about an hour and then punched them into traffic may just be 'querying the price'?
bigfella777 wrote:That's the whole point. We don't know there was bad behavior. It's different if someone's smashing up a car. But this is some woman who wants to get home and start her old man's tea and is being held up. We don't know why the guy was refusing to pay ect... There could be an explanation. You don't berate someone in front of you in a supermarket queue if they're querying a price ect... Why is this any different?
This story just about sums up this country now. When we see bad behaviour everyone just ignores it for fear of retribution and so it gets worse and worse.
I tried to make a citizens arrest once after seeing a youth vandalise a car and when I rang the police they told me to let him go or I could be arrested myself for kidnapping.
Human rights gone mad this country.
Not likely is it?
If someone was in front of me on a bus arguing with the driver, I'd ask if I could just get on too rather than stand out in the cold.
It's not a difficult case is it, guy is already irate with the driver, someone gets past him and he takes offence to it and attacks her in the street later on. I'd be very surprised if this went any other way. There's little to no mitigating for it at all.
Sympathies to the woman, hope they catch the guy.
I dont think in any way that punching someone is acceptable. Also the fact that the guy followed her (and for so long) would suggest to me that he has some issues to say the least.
However, it sounds just like she was impatient and rude. Its not like she has intervened when someone is slapping their child.
Unfortunately for her she was rude to the wrong to someone that was obviously troubled enough. Personally i hope the guy is found because the streets would be safer if he was.
Lesson: Try to be nice to people
An apparent witness has already posted on here to say she was neither rude or aggressive.
Lesson here: get your facts straight.
userds5050
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11:23am Tue 15 Jan 13
cliffwalker wrote:Go back and re read my posts and then point out where I've said that.
userds5050 wrote:Are you seriously saying this woman deserved to be stalked all the way from Chandlers Ford to Souhampton so she could be punched into a busy road where she might have died?
I had a driver refuse to let me on because he'd let me on because "he'd never seen my pass before". After a lengthy heated conversation, a radio back to base I was allowed on as the pass was valid. Now if some impatient woman was telling me to get off when I had just as much right to travel as her I wouldn't be happy. It's like the guy who threw the kid off the train in Scotland when he was sold the wrong ticket. Lesson here: Don't be a vigilante.
Subject48
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11:47am Tue 15 Jan 13
8:08pm Mon 14 Jan 13
The guy was refusing to pay for his ticket and held up a large queue of people trying to get on and get home for about 5 minutes. I heard the woman speaking from upstairs and she was neither rude or aggressive”
You were there ?
jimbos
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12:24pm Tue 15 Jan 13
S!monOn
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12:28pm Tue 15 Jan 13
userds5050 wrote:She didn't "pushed past him". The report said she "brushed passed the man".
S!monOn wrote:Er, he was sat upstairs so I'm sure he didn't see everything that went on. The woman has already said she pushed past him so not sure how he witnessed that.
Jesus_02 wrote:Lesson here: Learn to read.
sampton wrote:Personally I think 5050 has a point. Maybe he just didnt put it well.
userds5050 wrote:It's not irrelevant at all, what happened on the bus initially was directly followed up with an assault some time after.
sampton wrote:What happened after is irrelevant. We're talking about what happened on the bus and whether the woman had the right to intervene.
sampton wrote:Oh sorry, he was only following her for 30 minutes. Maybe he just wanted the time?
userds5050 wrote:Sorry... You think that someone who followed a person for about an hour and then punched them into traffic may just be 'querying the price'?
bigfella777 wrote:That's the whole point. We don't know there was bad behavior. It's different if someone's smashing up a car. But this is some woman who wants to get home and start her old man's tea and is being held up. We don't know why the guy was refusing to pay ect... There could be an explanation. You don't berate someone in front of you in a supermarket queue if they're querying a price ect... Why is this any different?
This story just about sums up this country now. When we see bad behaviour everyone just ignores it for fear of retribution and so it gets worse and worse.
I tried to make a citizens arrest once after seeing a youth vandalise a car and when I rang the police they told me to let him go or I could be arrested myself for kidnapping.
Human rights gone mad this country.
Not likely is it?
If someone was in front of me on a bus arguing with the driver, I'd ask if I could just get on too rather than stand out in the cold.
It's not a difficult case is it, guy is already irate with the driver, someone gets past him and he takes offence to it and attacks her in the street later on. I'd be very surprised if this went any other way. There's little to no mitigating for it at all.
Sympathies to the woman, hope they catch the guy.
I dont think in any way that punching someone is acceptable. Also the fact that the guy followed her (and for so long) would suggest to me that he has some issues to say the least.
However, it sounds just like she was impatient and rude. Its not like she has intervened when someone is slapping their child.
Unfortunately for her she was rude to the wrong to someone that was obviously troubled enough. Personally i hope the guy is found because the streets would be safer if he was.
Lesson: Try to be nice to people
An apparent witness has already posted on here to say she was neither rude or aggressive.
Lesson here: get your facts straight.
Also, you can HEAR if someone is being rude and aggressive during a VERBAL confrontation.
Stop making a fool of yourself and shut up.
userds5050
says...
12:38pm Tue 15 Jan 13
S!monOn wrote:You're the one who re opened the thread by having a go at Jesus. I'd rather hear from Jimbo as to how much he heard than take your word for it. Something wrong with your caps lock? #Muppet
userds5050 wrote:She didn't "pushed past him". The report said she "brushed passed the man".
S!monOn wrote:Er, he was sat upstairs so I'm sure he didn't see everything that went on. The woman has already said she pushed past him so not sure how he witnessed that.
Jesus_02 wrote:Lesson here: Learn to read.
sampton wrote:Personally I think 5050 has a point. Maybe he just didnt put it well.
userds5050 wrote:It's not irrelevant at all, what happened on the bus initially was directly followed up with an assault some time after.
sampton wrote:What happened after is irrelevant. We're talking about what happened on the bus and whether the woman had the right to intervene.
sampton wrote:Oh sorry, he was only following her for 30 minutes. Maybe he just wanted the time?
userds5050 wrote:Sorry... You think that someone who followed a person for about an hour and then punched them into traffic may just be 'querying the price'?
bigfella777 wrote:That's the whole point. We don't know there was bad behavior. It's different if someone's smashing up a car. But this is some woman who wants to get home and start her old man's tea and is being held up. We don't know why the guy was refusing to pay ect... There could be an explanation. You don't berate someone in front of you in a supermarket queue if they're querying a price ect... Why is this any different?
This story just about sums up this country now. When we see bad behaviour everyone just ignores it for fear of retribution and so it gets worse and worse.
I tried to make a citizens arrest once after seeing a youth vandalise a car and when I rang the police they told me to let him go or I could be arrested myself for kidnapping.
Human rights gone mad this country.
Not likely is it?
If someone was in front of me on a bus arguing with the driver, I'd ask if I could just get on too rather than stand out in the cold.
It's not a difficult case is it, guy is already irate with the driver, someone gets past him and he takes offence to it and attacks her in the street later on. I'd be very surprised if this went any other way. There's little to no mitigating for it at all.
Sympathies to the woman, hope they catch the guy.
I dont think in any way that punching someone is acceptable. Also the fact that the guy followed her (and for so long) would suggest to me that he has some issues to say the least.
However, it sounds just like she was impatient and rude. Its not like she has intervened when someone is slapping their child.
Unfortunately for her she was rude to the wrong to someone that was obviously troubled enough. Personally i hope the guy is found because the streets would be safer if he was.
Lesson: Try to be nice to people
An apparent witness has already posted on here to say she was neither rude or aggressive.
Lesson here: get your facts straight.
Also, you can HEAR if someone is being rude and aggressive during a VERBAL confrontation.
Stop making a fool of yourself and shut up.
S!monOn
says...
1:03pm Tue 15 Jan 13
userds5050 wrote:That wasn't having a go. If you class that as having a go then no wonder you get yourself into heated exchanges. #Moron.
S!monOn wrote:You're the one who re opened the thread by having a go at Jesus. I'd rather hear from Jimbo as to how much he heard than take your word for it. Something wrong with your caps lock? #Muppet
userds5050 wrote:She didn't "pushed past him". The report said she "brushed passed the man".
S!monOn wrote:Er, he was sat upstairs so I'm sure he didn't see everything that went on. The woman has already said she pushed past him so not sure how he witnessed that.
Jesus_02 wrote:Lesson here: Learn to read.
sampton wrote:Personally I think 5050 has a point. Maybe he just didnt put it well.
userds5050 wrote:It's not irrelevant at all, what happened on the bus initially was directly followed up with an assault some time after.
sampton wrote:What happened after is irrelevant. We're talking about what happened on the bus and whether the woman had the right to intervene.
sampton wrote:Oh sorry, he was only following her for 30 minutes. Maybe he just wanted the time?
userds5050 wrote:Sorry... You think that someone who followed a person for about an hour and then punched them into traffic may just be 'querying the price'?
bigfella777 wrote:That's the whole point. We don't know there was bad behavior. It's different if someone's smashing up a car. But this is some woman who wants to get home and start her old man's tea and is being held up. We don't know why the guy was refusing to pay ect... There could be an explanation. You don't berate someone in front of you in a supermarket queue if they're querying a price ect... Why is this any different?
This story just about sums up this country now. When we see bad behaviour everyone just ignores it for fear of retribution and so it gets worse and worse.
I tried to make a citizens arrest once after seeing a youth vandalise a car and when I rang the police they told me to let him go or I could be arrested myself for kidnapping.
Human rights gone mad this country.
Not likely is it?
If someone was in front of me on a bus arguing with the driver, I'd ask if I could just get on too rather than stand out in the cold.
It's not a difficult case is it, guy is already irate with the driver, someone gets past him and he takes offence to it and attacks her in the street later on. I'd be very surprised if this went any other way. There's little to no mitigating for it at all.
Sympathies to the woman, hope they catch the guy.
I dont think in any way that punching someone is acceptable. Also the fact that the guy followed her (and for so long) would suggest to me that he has some issues to say the least.
However, it sounds just like she was impatient and rude. Its not like she has intervened when someone is slapping their child.
Unfortunately for her she was rude to the wrong to someone that was obviously troubled enough. Personally i hope the guy is found because the streets would be safer if he was.
Lesson: Try to be nice to people
An apparent witness has already posted on here to say she was neither rude or aggressive.
Lesson here: get your facts straight.
Also, you can HEAR if someone is being rude and aggressive during a VERBAL confrontation.
Stop making a fool of yourself and shut up.
userds5050
says...
1:14pm Tue 15 Jan 13
ilogik_23
says...
1:36pm Tue 15 Jan 13
S!monOn wrote:I said that in my first post S!monOn, hilarious reading but maybe it's gone a bit too far now, think it's best we just all agree to disagree with 5050, everyone has made a point, I'm out and so is 5050 by the sounds of it....
userds5050 wrote:That wasn't having a go. If you class that as having a go then no wonder you get yourself into heated exchanges. #Moron.S!monOn wrote:You're the one who re opened the thread by having a go at Jesus. I'd rather hear from Jimbo as to how much he heard than take your word for it. Something wrong with your caps lock? #Muppetuserds5050 wrote:She didn't "pushed past him". The report said she "brushed passed the man". Also, you can HEAR if someone is being rude and aggressive during a VERBAL confrontation. Stop making a fool of yourself and shut up.S!monOn wrote:Er, he was sat upstairs so I'm sure he didn't see everything that went on. The woman has already said she pushed past him so not sure how he witnessed that. Lesson here: get your facts straight.Jesus_02 wrote:Lesson here: Learn to read. An apparent witness has already posted on here to say she was neither rude or aggressive.sampton wrote:Personally I think 5050 has a point. Maybe he just didnt put it well. I dont think in any way that punching someone is acceptable. Also the fact that the guy followed her (and for so long) would suggest to me that he has some issues to say the least. However, it sounds just like she was impatient and rude. Its not like she has intervened when someone is slapping their child. Unfortunately for her she was rude to the wrong to someone that was obviously troubled enough. Personally i hope the guy is found because the streets would be safer if he was. Lesson: Try to be nice to peopleuserds5050 wrote:It's not irrelevant at all, what happened on the bus initially was directly followed up with an assault some time after. If someone was in front of me on a bus arguing with the driver, I'd ask if I could just get on too rather than stand out in the cold. It's not a difficult case is it, guy is already irate with the driver, someone gets past him and he takes offence to it and attacks her in the street later on. I'd be very surprised if this went any other way. There's little to no mitigating for it at all. Sympathies to the woman, hope they catch the guy.sampton wrote:What happened after is irrelevant. We're talking about what happened on the bus and whether the woman had the right to intervene.sampton wrote:Oh sorry, he was only following her for 30 minutes. Maybe he just wanted the time?userds5050 wrote:Sorry... You think that someone who followed a person for about an hour and then punched them into traffic may just be 'querying the price'? Not likely is it?bigfella777 wrote: This story just about sums up this country now. When we see bad behaviour everyone just ignores it for fear of retribution and so it gets worse and worse. I tried to make a citizens arrest once after seeing a youth vandalise a car and when I rang the police they told me to let him go or I could be arrested myself for kidnapping. Human rights gone mad this country.That's the whole point. We don't know there was bad behavior. It's different if someone's smashing up a car. But this is some woman who wants to get home and start her old man's tea and is being held up. We don't know why the guy was refusing to pay ect... There could be an explanation. You don't berate someone in front of you in a supermarket queue if they're querying a price ect... Why is this any different?
10 Minute Man says...
9:14am Mon 14 Jan 13
Well done to her for standing up to this loser.